The Anthony Cumia Show - The Shining: The Wendy Theory (with Chrissie Mayr)

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  • @terrantheblack6587
    @terrantheblack6587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The Wendy theory had me rewatching the shining 20 more times

    • @QuantumRizzX
      @QuantumRizzX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did it change your opinion of the movie? Cause I still find a few holes in the Wendy theory. When did the crazy start? Are we to believe that all scenes with Wendy are either imagined or somehow a combination of truth and false. There’s mention of jack physically abusing Danny by both parents but Danny continues to seek out his mother over his father for protection, even though she was abusing him like the Wendy theory suggests.
      Maybe Danny’s just crazy and is imagining all this. That movie “identity” has a possibly similar plot point in that 12 people are trapped in a motel and are being killed 1 by 1. Turns out there were 2 realities going on; one Was the world with the 12 strangers and that turned out to be an imaginary world. And the second was of a serial killer with multiple personalities going through mental experiments designed to get rid of the personality that is murdering people in real life. They leave the kid personally alive in his brain but the twist at the end was the kid personality was the serial killer. Not a Kubrick but still fascinating to think about

    • @terrantheblack6587
      @terrantheblack6587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@QuantumRizzX 1. I think she was always crazy. 2. The situation itself probably confused Danny, and his love for his mother kept him in denial. Better yet, we could be seeing the story from Wendy’s POV all along.

    • @eirikallee9941
      @eirikallee9941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@QuantumRizzX for me its more like some scenes without wendy could be what she is imagining is happening to others. jacks first trip to the hotel and the impossible window interview, danny and haloran talking about the shining, jack at the bar, jack in room 237 and the old lady, jacks talk with danny on his lap, danny riding around floor plans that dont make sense, danny seeing the twins, jack's conversations in the walk-in fridge and bathroom with mr grady, etc. she even talks about how shes "so confused" when jack is trying to get the baseball bat from her on the stairs like she is losing grip with what is reality and what she is imagining. nothing magical/ghostly happens to wendy until the end where she sees the bear blowy and all the skeletons in the hallway which could be the result of her slow decent into madness and witnessing her halucinations directly instead of indirectly. wendy claims it was an old lady in room 237 who attacked danny but danny doesnt speak up and after jack meets the old lady he acts like nothing happened/nobody was there (because there wasnt, it was wendy's hallucination). wendy brings up to her therapist that jack hurt danny once before but when jack talks about it he is "confessing" to the bartender which could be her guilty conscience trying to deflect.

    • @ITILII
      @ITILII ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If anyone could have faked the moon landing, it would be the greatest director and film genius of all time, Stanley Kubrick. As Steven Spielberg said "No one, in the history of motion pictures, could craft a film, better than Stanley Kubrick"

  • @thomasthomason4943
    @thomasthomason4943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    An important thing to point out is that there was a fire in the movie studio and the set had to be repaired/rebuilt.

    • @peterforget946
      @peterforget946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wouldn't that have just caused Kubrick to be especially precise about all of the shots & continuity?

    • @QuantumRizzX
      @QuantumRizzX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah they act like there’s not websites and movie lovers out there with lists of continuity errors in films.

  • @sanket7381
    @sanket7381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    TH-cam "opie and anthony shining vos" one of the funniest moments on O and A

    • @Mytimekid
      @Mytimekid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      "Here's Dummy!"

    • @XXthekingofyouXX
      @XXthekingofyouXX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      "Your jokes are no good here, Mr. Vos."

    • @TurkFebruary88
      @TurkFebruary88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      “Do ya like toothpaste doc?”

    • @xPadge112x
      @xPadge112x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Remember when they Had Rich do a script read with the guy from A Bronx Tale?
      It's tremendous shitting on Vos but every now and again when my mind wanders I here him say.
      "LOUIS......BEANS!"
      And I crack up like fuck.

    • @TurkFebruary88
      @TurkFebruary88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      “Tony is a little boy who drowns in my mouth”

  • @mastershake2782
    @mastershake2782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I like the Mirror Theory too. Every time Jack is talking to a ghost there is a mirror in the scene implying he's talking to himself. There are mirrors all over the movie. For example: REDRUM.

    • @nathanpapp432
      @nathanpapp432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      When hes talking to Grady in the bathroom hes clearly looking past him and into the mirror. Same for Lloyd, the back of the bar is a mirror.

    • @libertas_americana
      @libertas_americana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to mention the windows that should not exist. The window in the apartment should not exist and the big bay windows where Jack types shouldn’t exist merely on schematics of the hotel. Yet somehow the TV is always placed in front of these fake window. A tv that has no power cord and tv where Danny watches cartoons. “Don’t worry, he saw it on the television.”

    • @hermanhale9258
      @hermanhale9258 ปีที่แล้ว

      The ghosts come through the mirrors.

  • @brandonobaza8610
    @brandonobaza8610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Of course, the "Kooky Broad Theory"
    This also applies to life in general.

  • @BanditoBurrito
    @BanditoBurrito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It’s hard enough to make a classic movie, almost impossible to make one so good there are multiple theories around it nobody can decipher. Kubrick is awesome.

    • @truthsocialmedia
      @truthsocialmedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The movie makes sense after the Wendy theory. Other people who believe in a haunted hotel are ******* retards

  • @curtislamarh
    @curtislamarh ปีที่แล้ว +7

    And I wholeheartedly believe this theory above all the others.. there's so many times that the clues are present....the typewriter scene, the tricycle being the wrong color, the lamps and the light switches, and I see the writing on the typewriter was a hallucination he probably really had a lot of chapters typed up but her hallucinations

    • @ChrisBrown-ir6sf
      @ChrisBrown-ir6sf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The biggest was the maze and i am quite surprised how people are not talking about this. Every Time overlook hotel was shown from Helicopter view or Far distanced view. There was no maze in front of the hotel..Look it up at the beginning when Jack arrives at the overlook for the interview.
      But somehow there was a maze when Wendy was walking with Dany or Jack chasing Dany ?
      Makes it obvious the maze exist in someone's delusion and Jack never dies in the maze cause it's not real

  • @ITILII
    @ITILII ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "No one, in the history of motion pictures, could craft a film, better than Stanley Kubrick!" - Steven Spielberg

  • @soulbyliam
    @soulbyliam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Pfft I’d like to land on Christie’s moon puppies

    • @Omerta369
      @Omerta369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯💯💯

  • @stephanc197
    @stephanc197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Speaking of Kubrick's cinematic style, I saw Eyes Wide Shut recently for the first time , it's so good, very underrated. It''s also visually stunning, very rich colours, his use of lighting all that bullshit is a feast for the eyes , and not just for the naked chicks. It's one of those movies where you'll notice something new no matter how many times you've viewed it.

    • @OGRE_HATES_NERDS
      @OGRE_HATES_NERDS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      his magnum opus

    • @PantsofVance
      @PantsofVance 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of course the theory there is that the elites killed him for exposing their crazy shit.

    • @tomb5396
      @tomb5396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just saw it as well for first time, bold colours, what's the password?

    • @vgmilo
      @vgmilo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't think hardly anybody denies that visually Kubrick was a genius. Usually they criticize his movies for being boring and detached, but not for looking bad

    • @Shaner373
      @Shaner373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      whack your bag?

  • @nightwing79
    @nightwing79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm stuck on the "Two Jacks" Theory. Jack the writer and Jack the character in Jack's novel. The idea is that from the point we see Jack in the burgundy jacket we're actually inside the story he's writing where he's made himself the character and the one compelling scene for this is after he storms out of their apartment they later cut to a scene where he's sitting there typing and he's in different clothes. As if he's just writing away making this story and then we see him back in the same clothes again with the burgundy jacket. I can't shake this one

  • @mindseyemusicreview
    @mindseyemusicreview 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Same thing with guitarists. Its the same 6 stings but when you can hear the flavor of the player it's really special. Just like Stanley Kubrick he was a master at his craft and style

  • @roterfuchs8201
    @roterfuchs8201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Ant should have told Chrissie that Kubrick is still alive when she asked and she would have looked for his social media accounts

    • @sebm3029
      @sebm3029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      she's friends with his daughter on twitter but didn't know he's been dead for over 20 years

  • @rofyle
    @rofyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In the book, Jack beats his own face into hamburger with a croquet mallet.

  • @FreakinSweet86
    @FreakinSweet86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I mean its a great theory but how then how do you explain only Jack seeing the naked granny ghost and the impossible window we see in Ullman's office during Jack's interview. Wendy was not present in those rooms at the time.

    • @alldetected3106
      @alldetected3106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The hallucinations infected jack like the corona virus.

    • @joeytroutman9506
      @joeytroutman9506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You didn't watch the wendy theory did you

  • @susancouderc359
    @susancouderc359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I do love the Wendy theory I used to wonder why it is Wendy and not Jack surveying and taking care of the generator and machines in the hotel? Surely not a woman's job but yet it's Wendy who does the actual work. Plus she is dressed in Indian clothes which means she represents the Indian spirits the hotel was buried on..does this mean Wendy represents the good and Jack the evil and it is Wendy who gets revenge over Jack even if it is by her falling into a psychotic episode...she revenges the Indian spirits by killing Jack in advertantly? So many questions. I do find it harder to believe it was Wendy abusing Danny but it is possible. I guess in the end all three of them shine Danny Wendy and Jack and the hotel gets the better of them which is why furniture keeps moving around and stuff. But so many possibilities really.

    • @QuantumRizzX
      @QuantumRizzX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wendy didn’t kill jack though.

    • @lavendeer6290
      @lavendeer6290 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wendy representing dead indigenous people is probably more in line with her being subject to violence from the same general source.

  • @justwatching6186
    @justwatching6186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I agree with The Wendy Theory. No way Kubrick makes that many continuity mistakes. Also explained why King hated that movie. Stanley took his novel and made it MUCH better. An ego like King’s wouldn’t except that.

    • @goodmaro
      @goodmaro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not just the *number* of "continuity mistakes", it's their specificity, and the fact that many of them would've been extremely difficult to produce accidentally. It took work for those details to happen as they did.
      I have a lot of trouble convincing people of the same about _Lost_ , a TV serial whose maker I was friendly with for many years beforehand (and hence knew his sense of humor). Fans analyzing scenes from that show rationalize tons of supposed production mistakes that included many shots that could happen only by careful arrangement. The trouble is that people are invested in a too-superficial understanding of the plot and reject contrary evidence.

  • @Mangaboy69
    @Mangaboy69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ant would love the jarjar binks theory

  • @johnmiller5679
    @johnmiller5679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe in this theory also. The chair there was reality and when the chair is gone it’s what Wendy is seeing. Also notice the office Jack goes into for the interview cannot exists because it has a window. That’s because it’s from Wendy’s point of view of how Jack told her the interview went.

  • @barzy9725
    @barzy9725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The movie was great but even reading the book got you looking over your shoulder. Ha ha for real.

  • @dizzyhole666
    @dizzyhole666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Rob Ager makes some great videos on film analysis

  • @okjoe5561
    @okjoe5561 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Chrissie Mayr is a good co-host with Anthony.

    • @rwc20071
      @rwc20071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I hate female comedians, but yeah she is actually not bad as co host

    • @Myrzghe
      @Myrzghe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stuff like "today he would be trans"?
      It's like she's blindly trying to sing the songs that makes grandpa smile

    • @avengemybreath3084
      @avengemybreath3084 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, boobs are fun!

  • @ErokusMaximus
    @ErokusMaximus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The 90s TV version with the wings guy was amazing. 2 parter worth a watxh

  • @fredmetz7200
    @fredmetz7200 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When Ant imitates Danny. He sounds exactly like Eric The Midget

  • @MyMomDrank
    @MyMomDrank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I watched that Wendy Theory video as well as the documentary on the shining. The Wendy theory is the only one that holds any water.

    • @st0n3p0ny
      @st0n3p0ny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Did she let Jack out of the pantry?

    • @gregparks1785
      @gregparks1785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@st0n3p0ny if you watch the Wendy Theory video it explains that.

    • @NorthJerseyJabroni
      @NorthJerseyJabroni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The main problem is that if true, it would have had to have been *meticulously* documented in the script. Every minor detail, from where the Kool-Aid on the pantry shelf was, whether there was a Dopey sticker on the door and when there wasn't, the positioning of the background furniture, etc. would ALL have to have highly detailed instructions in the script, and some of those script notes would have survived and been mentioned in the numerous Shining documentaries over the years. We'd know the Wendy Theory was true because there would be countless script notes that would all be documented to prove it.
      A more plausible theory: Kubrick did dozens and dozens of takes for even the most mundane scenes. At some point, somebody in the crew knocks the Kool-Aid off a shelf, rubs against a Dopey sticker, moves furniture to adjust lighting, etc. Kubrick is looking for 22 different acting nuances that do NOT involve the Dopey sticker, and doesn't notice the continuity error.
      That makes more sense then a bizarre hallucination theory that has zero payoff in the movie or script, and is never mentioned or alluded to by anybody for 40 years.

    • @MyMomDrank
      @MyMomDrank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NorthJerseyJabroni disagree, maybe for one or two things but it’s way too much for Kubrick to not have noticed. He was a PSYCHO when it came to those mundane details. He literally would say “bring me ten 24mm lenses!” (All same brand and model) and select his favorite. And I DO agree with you that it would be hard to explain certain motivations to the actors without telling them (if you look at the typewriter scene half the time Jack isn’t angry but sort of slackjawed at his potentially crazy wife). Hard not to explain to Nicholson why that would be, so I get what you’re saying. But something like a chair missing from the scene wouldn’t happen with Kubrick.
      I can totally see Kubrick going “you know, what if we made the wife the crazy one, I’ve known a few crazy broads in my time…“ and then did it very subtly. Like you said, having the actors do takes multiple ways to throw them off the scent.
      And just because he may have kept a production script full of his crazy ideas doesn’t mean he explained it to anyone else. All they need to do is ensure continuity until the “eccentric director” says “get that out of here, I hate kool-aid!”
      All I’m saying is there’s definitely enough evidence for seed of doubt, and not enough rationalization that he just “didn’t notice” to erase that seed of doubt. And it’s WAY more evidence than the moon landing or Native American suffering or whatever. Those all felt like nonsense.

    • @NorthJerseyJabroni
      @NorthJerseyJabroni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MyMomDrank It's not just actors he would have had to inform, he would have had to have specific instructions to crew as to which props/furniture HAD to be present/absent in each shot, and then how to shoot it the other way for the reverse angle. It would have had to have been meticulously documented in the script notes to his crew in order for all of these mundane details to be in the proper shots, and there would be ample evidence of it. It's not something he could have just done on his own without micro-managing every detail in writing.
      Also, he went to all of this meticulous detail, but then offered no payoff or explanation of it - either in the film or even in interviews done years after the fact?
      It's a fascinating theory, but at the end of the day, I still think it's just a creative way to explain away continuity errors.

  • @talktokatingalls
    @talktokatingalls 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've seen arguments about the Wendy Theory. To be honest, I don't care if it is correct because it is now the lens through which I view the film I enjoy the movie so much more with the application of the Wendy Theory.

  • @jmbwithcats
    @jmbwithcats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I am convinced the wendy theory is what Kubrick intended and why King hated it... because Kubrick took a 2 dimensional story and made it an amazing movie about mental health.

    • @get8bit
      @get8bit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He made a skunkworks inside of King's predictable haunted house garbage story.

    • @Emidretrauqe
      @Emidretrauqe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't buy it. I think if you combine this information with Room 237 you'll find that the entire movie is deliberately inconsistent, regardless of where Wendy is or what she is doing.

    • @lavendeer6290
      @lavendeer6290 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruh, it already had themes of mental health

  • @The_kookclub
    @The_kookclub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Wendy theory is awesome. Showing jack screaming her name in the maze makes so much sense when you look at her as the “bad guy” because she is insane.
    It shows how stans mistakes aren’t mistakes but little bread crumbs to lead us on a path of darkness. Showing us that Wendy is abusing danny not jack.
    God I loved watching ant explain this lol

  • @rayadorno6510
    @rayadorno6510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bro has anyone seen how awful the footage of the moon landing is?! Stanley Kubrick would've never shot such a poor picture. It might be fake ok but not shot by Kubrick.

  • @kencoakley8366
    @kencoakley8366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Coincidentally, Shelley Duvall,who played Wendy was, and still is, described as nutty in real life.

    • @christophercrochet5454
      @christophercrochet5454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Many people think she's never been the same after how she was treated by Kubrick.

    • @neroclaudious6396
      @neroclaudious6396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not really. Ever since Dr. Phil exploited her mental issues a few years ago, she's been living in a protected community in Texas and is doing a lot better. She's been interviewed recently and she's doing great.

    • @QuantumRizzX
      @QuantumRizzX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Most actors are

    • @malikjohnson7950
      @malikjohnson7950 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wasn't she m0lested or something? 1ncest? Can't remember. I think OandA talked about it but i can't find the video. If so, that explains her problems.

  • @FlaminggMoe
    @FlaminggMoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mind...fucking....blown. Off to watch the shining again from a whole new perspective

  • @johnkeillor
    @johnkeillor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm flabbergasted by the Wendy Theory

    • @CircuitRider
      @CircuitRider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m flabbergasted by how idiotic the Wendy Theory is. Oh yeah, disappearing chairs = Wendy is psycho and the real villain and hallucinating everything 🙄

  • @jpalexander292
    @jpalexander292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I am no sure about the Wendy theory but I know one thing for sure. Nicholson was not the star of this movie, Shelly Duval was.

    • @LeesChannel
      @LeesChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Didn't she get nominated for the inaugural Razzie award?

    • @OGRE_HATES_NERDS
      @OGRE_HATES_NERDS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the hotel was the star of the movoe

    • @OGRE_HATES_NERDS
      @OGRE_HATES_NERDS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LeesChannel awards dont say anything about how good or bad the performance is, only the individual audience member can decide that

    • @vgmilo
      @vgmilo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I disagree jack Nicholsons performance is probably one of the best hammy villains movie history

  • @mastershake2782
    @mastershake2782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LMAO! I literally just watched The Wendy Theory too...

    • @TL2354
      @TL2354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What's so funny?

  • @jockoadams3377
    @jockoadams3377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Wendy Theory would've made a good version of the movie. But I don't think thats it. The shifting environment and inconsistencies would also speak to the hotel being haunted and fucking with its inhabitants.

    • @QuantumRizzX
      @QuantumRizzX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And why would there be a picture of jack at the end in the ballroom? I think either jacks crazy or possibly events repeating themselves year after year or Danny’s crazy and is imagining all this and his parents are starting to buckle under the pressures of having a special child

    • @abc456f
      @abc456f 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@QuantumRizzX Kubrick himself said the 1921 picture is indicative of the reincarnation of evil. I don't buy the Wendy theory. I do believe Danny was sexually absurd by his father.

  • @edgrant3994
    @edgrant3994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Let's Go Brandon !

  • @bryanmckinney1098
    @bryanmckinney1098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Legend has it Anthony played red cloak in Eyes Wide Shut (based on true events of course) can anyone provide more info 😆 P.S. The word anthony is looking for is "cinematography" I believe. Or the way a shot is framed. If this is true btw, and Kubrick went to his grave not telling anyone this movie works on 2 levels then I'm speechless....

    • @Robb1977
      @Robb1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome to the world of Stanley Kubrik. You can pick apart every detail and debate what it means, and what the shot composition is, and why there are errors or if they're errors.
      I can name 1 Continuity error that has no explanation is his entire cinematography... in the marina/betrayal scene of a clockwork orange, dim scuffs his boot against Alex's pant, leaving behind a black mark, but in the next shot it's gone. There's no reason for that to be the way it is, and it's only a few frames so it likely was just an error.
      But Kubrick didn't make many mistakes like that. And the shining remains one of his most debated movies for countless reasons. Wendy theory would explain why he gaslit Duvall through the production, making her feel crazy because her character was supposed to be and he couldn't expressly tell her that. This sort of thing happened in Dr Strangelove as well.
      But at the same time, the layout of the entire hotel doesn't make sense, the whole movie is about disorientation, making even the most meticulous person lose their sense of space and time. The title cards intentionally being oddly specific and also vague, yet not categorically similar, mirrors and windows in hallways where they shouldn't exist or don't make any sense.
      Its not just Wendy who's crazy because there are many moments where she's not present and Jack is going a bit nuts, so either she just is fantasizing, out of view, or everyone is crazy and thinks they're the only sane one.

    • @soccom8341576
      @soccom8341576 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Robb1977"everyone is crazy and thinks they're the only sane one." - sounds like serious multi-dimensional
      crazy to me.

  • @TonsMoreCowbell
    @TonsMoreCowbell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Confessions of a moon landing filmer was the original title of the shining.

  • @backforblood3421
    @backforblood3421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw the opening of Scream 3 about a month ago, and could tell it was a Scream movie just from seeing a guy sitting in traffic, not having seen any of those movies, really.

  • @TPTnny
    @TPTnny 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for covering this.
    I love you now.

  • @loonanite
    @loonanite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Chrissy and them milkers goddamn

  • @heidi7151
    @heidi7151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There were 2 continuity bombs within the first few minutes of Full Metal Jacket.
    One that I remember is Hartman punches Joker with one hand but it's the other when the camera changes angle. Pretty surprisingly bad.

    • @heidi7151
      @heidi7151 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gsesquire3441
      Perfectionism leads to burnout, which leads to mistakes. Perfectionists can hyperfocus on meaningless things and miss the obvious problem. Botching a simple punch in the opening scene is an example of that.
      He smacks Joker for denying the Virgin Mary. The slap looks so fake and the sound effect is laughably bad. Okay, we can say Kubrick did a terrible job or we can say this scene was meant to be absurdist, like Tarantino movies. I don't buy the defense. I just think he fucked up.

    • @heidi7151
      @heidi7151 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gsesquire3441
      Funneling all his mistakes into some type of allegory is what people do with the Bible. But Kubrick was very human. He made bad movies and he made mistakes. He's also the best director probably ever.

  • @TerrySilverhand
    @TerrySilverhand 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I need to rewatch the shining... Again...... And happily so

  • @letsdiscussitoversometea8479
    @letsdiscussitoversometea8479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Personally, I never warmed to the family members in "The Shining".
    Jack seems very detached from his wife and son, Wendy seems very needy and on edge, and Danny seems very introverted and cold.
    The explanation about the "Grady" caretaker, and his apparent first name, made perfect sense given the Wendy theory, as did all the missing pieces of furniture, re-placement of certain objects, and substitutions of others.
    I think Wendy was also a bit of a fantasist, clinging to ideas about Jack abusing Danny.
    More than that...she looked - strange.
    Especially in the typewriter scene with Jack (although I do like those boots she's wearing - they look cute 🙂).
    Maybe that's why she was typecast for the role... there was something a bit "off" about her??

    • @99tubalcain
      @99tubalcain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If you watch the documentary that's floating around on TH-cam about the making Kubrick also was pretty harsh on Duvall to the point of her breaking down in tears at times. He was trying to push her to the edge and it worked and added to her oddness during the film.

    • @vandaloo420oo8
      @vandaloo420oo8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about tony did u like him

    • @letsdiscussitoversometea8479
      @letsdiscussitoversometea8479 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vandaloo420oo8 "It".
      "It", not "him"!!! 😆
      And No. 😐

    • @QuantumRizzX
      @QuantumRizzX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      “Typecast for the role?” could you explain this further?

    • @letsdiscussitoversometea8479
      @letsdiscussitoversometea8479 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@QuantumRizzX What I mean when I say "typecast", is that the actress has a certain disposition about her, whereby she appears to be quite susceptible to negative influences.
      As if it wouldn't take a great deal for her to become upset.
      If you look back on Shelley Duvall's career, you can (sort of) tell that she's quite a "weak" person when it comes to being able to endure alot of hardships.
      Some people - perhaps such as Sylvester Stallone - are quite "hardy" people who are equipped with extensive coping mechanisms for difficult situations that involve alot of upheaval.
      I imagine it would have been quite difficult for Kubrick to have made life hard for someone like Stallone, because he comes across as having a very strong constitution... something Duvall certainly doesn't possess.
      One casting director I know _of_ (through reasons that I won't get into here) was Reuben Cannon.
      He cast alot of the actors in programmes such as "Murder, She Wrote" - but he was very unusual, because the culprits we're ALWAYS the ones who were least suspected.
      In essence, typecasting is based upon "hunches" a caster has about the character of an actor or actress.

  • @SoBayK80
    @SoBayK80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love The Shining theories, and the Wendy Theory is the chef's 💋

  • @wanderingderelict19
    @wanderingderelict19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Eh! The story in the novel, was profound enough. Film enhanced certain parts for the better, yet was lacking in others (such as the historical backdrop).

  • @NotDry2457
    @NotDry2457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also why was NY comedian Colin Quinn just randomly standing at the bar?

  • @NorthJerseyJabroni
    @NorthJerseyJabroni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wendy Theory is like if they did the Sixth Sense but never revealed that Bruce Willis was dead at the end of the movie. And the only hints M. Night Shyamalan gave us was stuff like "Hey - in the restaurant scene, the waiter in the background is wearing an apron, and then when he walks past in the reverse angle shot, he isn't wearing one! Therefore, that tells you that Bruce Willis was dead the whole time."
    Wendy Theory is interesting, but at the end of the day it's just an imaginative way to explain away trivial continuity errors.

  • @RyanHeinzman1985
    @RyanHeinzman1985 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like the Wendy theory as well. There's the Red Book one, Jack being an abusive father, etc. Could Kubrick have tossed in all these clues into the movie on purpose?

  • @christdolphin69
    @christdolphin69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are intentional inconsistencies is eyes wide shut too. Kubrick is brilliant and rob ager/collar I’ve learning is a genius. Highly recommend all of his videos

  • @washburnbilly
    @washburnbilly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The audio is a bit low, but this whole thing reminds me of the movie Sublime. It's a twisted kind of story but it is interesting to see this as well.

  • @99tubalcain
    @99tubalcain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is the stupidest theory I've ever heard. If Wendy is the delusional one then why is Jack talking to Grady in a bathroom alone? Why is he hanging out with the dude from Blade Runner alone if it's all just Wendy's own neurosis?

    • @-Garviel_Loken-
      @-Garviel_Loken- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jack is a replicant.

    • @letsdiscussitoversometea8479
      @letsdiscussitoversometea8479 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wendy doesn't absolutely *have* to know how "Lloyd" and "Delbert Grady" looked like (if either character even *_existed_* to begin with).
      Someone can quite easily use their imagination to conjure up a profile of a particular character.
      The two fitted their "roles" quite well I thought.
      I'd earlier on explained my thoughts on Wendy being a fantasist, which is why I suspect that she had ideations of Jack "scheming" in secret with someone he would have had the chance to "connect" with, as was more elaborate with Grady, but even slightly elaborate with Lloyd.
      What in psychiatry is labelled as paranoid schizophrenia (but I believe *truthfully* speaking, to be demonic possession) - that's what I suspect Wendy was susceptible to.
      As if she could be "knocked down by a feather".

    • @ProletarianTakeover
      @ProletarianTakeover 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Obviously you didn’t watch the video. Wendy imagines it. Grady didn’t let Jack out of the storage room because he was never in the storage room. Wendy dragged his unconscious body into the maze. Given Kubrick’s meticulous attention to detail the theory has some creedence.

  • @116Bears
    @116Bears 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The existence of Dr. Sleep freezes this theory.

  • @yeeminyamin5515
    @yeeminyamin5515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At the start when Jack is going for the interview they are walking through the large dining hall and in the background you can see Jack cleaning a large wooden display case. Like he was already there. And the weird books on the desk when he is being interviewed?

  • @aldoparziale5669
    @aldoparziale5669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah I've known about Wendy being crazy for a while lol

  • @QuantumRizzX
    @QuantumRizzX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If Wendy’s hurting Danny why does Danny continue to seek her help and love?

    • @PaulHattle
      @PaulHattle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stockholm syndrome is a real thing that actually happens.

  • @pretorious700
    @pretorious700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's with your audio level?

  • @OGRE_HATES_NERDS
    @OGRE_HATES_NERDS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i guess anthony doesnt know that there is a guy on youtube named rob ager who makes a new hour long video about the shining practially every week. he basically has a separate conspiracy theory for each and every frame of the movie

    • @Sweeptheleg83
      @Sweeptheleg83 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rob is great. I've watched almost every one of his Kubrick videos. Very good stuff

    • @OGRE_HATES_NERDS
      @OGRE_HATES_NERDS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sweeptheleg83 the guy is a madman lol

  • @GentlemanBystander
    @GentlemanBystander 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "We need this record corrrrrrrrrected."

  • @JW-un8ui
    @JW-un8ui 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Christopher Nolan has a very distinctive style as well.

  • @redeyejedi9504
    @redeyejedi9504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is doctor sleep not canon?

    • @XXthekingofyouXX
      @XXthekingofyouXX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure if it’s canon or not but I do know it’s a schyitty movie.

  • @jantelliquawallace355
    @jantelliquawallace355 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kubrick boxs is a super interesting documentary. You're all welcome.

  • @stevenedwards4470
    @stevenedwards4470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Wendy Theory is incorrect. The person who came up with it redirected the movie.

    • @XXthekingofyouXX
      @XXthekingofyouXX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't bring myself to watch King's remake of his own book's cinematic phenomenom.

  • @6atlantis
    @6atlantis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the “sequel” with Ewan McGregor debunks the theory that Wendy was the crazy one.

    • @goodmaro
      @goodmaro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can't debunk a work by making a subsequent contradictory work.

  • @napndash
    @napndash ปีที่แล้ว

    Wendy Torrance = Dorothy Gale

  • @corporalsanders9981
    @corporalsanders9981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A lot of good 2001 space odyssey conspiracies too.

  • @marklaws9868
    @marklaws9868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I bet Stephen King is so upset that people are still talking about a movie he despises so much.

    • @justing7490
      @justing7490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He doesn't hate it. He said it's a bad adaptation, but a good film

    • @marklaws9868
      @marklaws9868 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justing7490 Perhaps my words were hyperbole. I stand corrected.

    • @philyamascunt7518
      @philyamascunt7518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Stephen King is upset that no one has figured out that he is "Wendy" in real life.

  • @milomilo5634
    @milomilo5634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Based on this theory, I would say that Cumia has started smoking primo weed

  • @lavendeer6290
    @lavendeer6290 ปีที่แล้ว

    Y'all would be the guy in a horror movie that says "babe, do you know how crazy you sound?" and then gets killed.
    The Wendy Theory emerging in a time where abuse is spoken about more openly isn't a coincidence. It's a more shallow theory than staring the movie in the face and looking at the themes and subtext.
    It's kinda like saying Get Out is about "a race-obsessed black man who reads discrimination into everything" and snaps one day. I could pull enough reasons out of my ass if i really wanted to but it's silly. Both movies use horror plot devices to explore social violence (domestic abuse, racism). It's right there.
    Or less spicy, Midsommar is just the death dream or drug trip of the main character, Hereditary is about a woman with grief psychosis. Ash just goes crazy and kills all his friends in The Evil Dead! Etc.
    Weird.

  • @Iccarus72
    @Iccarus72 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All that space symbolism seen throughout the movie

  • @mistermusturd6402
    @mistermusturd6402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jack Torrance is abusing Danny.
    Olive Oil knows about it but
    pretends it’s not happening.
    The End.

  • @gimme3steps933
    @gimme3steps933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sam Raimi is another director where you can tell he’s directing. Very cool

    • @Stephen-lt1tp
      @Stephen-lt1tp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The evil dead movies suck they’re goofy comedies

    • @get8bit
      @get8bit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Stephen-lt1tp Your mom's a goofy comedy.

    • @Stephen-lt1tp
      @Stephen-lt1tp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@get8bit haha and I bet you like Disney movies as well

    • @gimme3steps933
      @gimme3steps933 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank God your opinion doesn’t matter.

    • @Stephen-lt1tp
      @Stephen-lt1tp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gimme3steps933 nor does yours. But the online hate does exist for those childish films

  • @mr.smithgnrsmith7808
    @mr.smithgnrsmith7808 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    She constantly has a crazy ass look in her eyes the whole film too

  • @AL13NM
    @AL13NM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Doesn't work. How would we the audience be experiencing her hallucinations of things she isn't even aware of, like conversations between characters she is not in the room with?

  • @rigafraction1653
    @rigafraction1653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Next up the GoT theory, those water bottles were left in the scene on purpose.

  • @flamingocupproductions5329
    @flamingocupproductions5329 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    when you clue into this sorta non-sense in your day to day life you just end up feeling like you're left frozen to die in a maze somewhere, but after the snow all melts you can start to be happy again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @wesleymaione5041
    @wesleymaione5041 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Antnee bring back your 1940‘s voice/character
    10-10.

  • @joeytroutman9506
    @joeytroutman9506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you've ever been around someone as sick as wendy immediately get out of this relationship as soon as possible. Yes it makes complete good sense to me this theory.

  • @Born2b_WILDe
    @Born2b_WILDe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes.

  • @CATSRULE1969
    @CATSRULE1969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Wendy Theory is wild.., but very plausible.
    Kubrick was an absolute genius !!
    Check out the behind the story, and hidden messages, meanings in his film Eyes Wide Shut.
    Sooo mind blowing.
    Esp considering his death immediately after filming finished.

    • @Stephen-lt1tp
      @Stephen-lt1tp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t buy the Wendy theory, it was a haunted hotel, everybody was affected a little bit. What were the meanings behind eyes wide shut? Besides a secret sex society of rich people

    • @CATSRULE1969
      @CATSRULE1969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Stephen-lt1tp
      Long history of Satanic elite sex, pedo & drug rings. Child sacrifices, etc.
      Includes famous (beloved) Hollywood stars, politicians, musicians, etc.
      Epstein stuff, illuminati etc
      Its ALL real !!

    • @Stephen-lt1tp
      @Stephen-lt1tp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CATSRULE1969 oh yeah I just assumed that was all a package deal with that crazy sex party lol.
      I might be one of the few people that really loves Barry Lyndon though. Such an underrated movie. And the movie gladiator is terrible in my opinion, after you’ve watched Spartacus nothing comes close.

  • @boilerroomed3682
    @boilerroomed3682 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    More volume please!

  • @johnwatts8346
    @johnwatts8346 ปีที่แล้ว

    wendy theory = nonsense. real plot- jack Rs danny in room 237, which doesnt exist because its not a hotel , its a family home- jack even says when ullman first shows them their rooms 'its very homey', the layout of room 237 is the same as jacks room, which he was in fondling danny immediately prior. redrum doesnt just mean murder ,it means r and murder. the film is about doestic violence and abuse and how its cycle handed down.

  • @mattshanley6755
    @mattshanley6755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is definitely the correct theory, I think.

  • @Votedjt2024
    @Votedjt2024 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love the original the shining with Jack Nicholson is very good

  • @dylanstokes9446
    @dylanstokes9446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every year a few movies will come out that are damn good but films that are as high caliber as Shining are continuing to grow all the more rare. I’d say since 1990 there has been a distinctly inverted correlation between the preponderance of mediocrity(in all American media/entertainment), as existential state of the USA is on a general decline. It’s pretty simple, as a society becomes more authoritarian, it chokes out creativity and originality by removing all emphasis on the individual.

    • @DamianJRogers
      @DamianJRogers  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I couldn't tell you the last time I watched a new movie that I wanted rewatch more than once at the most. It's a damn shame. Thankfully, there's decades of great stuff I still haven't seen and I almost always opt for that.

  • @XXthekingofyouXX
    @XXthekingofyouXX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Wendy Theory is about as sound and logical as Critical Race Theory.

  • @CalebMorgan
    @CalebMorgan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Wendy theory does not make sense if you read the book and the sequel in which both parents are dead.

    • @goodmaro
      @goodmaro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doesn't matter. The movie is its own thing. It's like saying the movie of _The Wizard of Oz_ doesn't make sense in light of the original book and its sequels. Or the movie of _One Touch of Venus_ , which similarly -- and brilliantly IMO -- provides a psychologic interpretation by its own added scene.

  • @YuriTardid
    @YuriTardid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow I've never heard of this but I knew the movie seemed a little off when I watched it forever ago. Guess I'm rewatching it now

    • @st0n3p0ny
      @st0n3p0ny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So many subtle things are implanted, and not pointed out explicitly, to make it feel off. Ulman's office for example, in the middle of the Overlook on the first floor, has that window with sky and bushes outside. Kubrick was a mad man.

  • @acra3
    @acra3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do you keep saying "The Moon Landing"? There were six of them.

  • @ProletarianTakeover
    @ProletarianTakeover 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    RIGHT THE FUCK IN

  • @Philo-ul2uq
    @Philo-ul2uq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    just like Darth Jar Jar......this theory is true.....

  • @mediasawdust2458
    @mediasawdust2458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are tons of continuity errors in all of Kubrick's films.

  • @guinnesslv
    @guinnesslv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If anyone over analyzes ANYTHING they can pick apart and make fantasies about it. I think it was done in history of a certain book. Not sure what it's called.

  • @LEARSIKCIGAM
    @LEARSIKCIGAM ปีที่แล้ว

    nah, Jack was abusing Danny
    and she is missing the whole picture

  • @elvidviva7365
    @elvidviva7365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    yo wich way norf

  • @Kamesh232
    @Kamesh232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Holy hell that Chrissy is a smokeshow, I can't even tell you what ant said...

    • @jimmineechristmas7335
      @jimmineechristmas7335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      look at them teets!

    • @nextbizzy
      @nextbizzy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      She must be ovulating... she's glowing

    • @michaelj6392
      @michaelj6392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You guys don’t get out much, do you?

    • @youtubeuser1159
      @youtubeuser1159 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelj6392 compared to the women they're used to looking at

    • @timc4765
      @timc4765 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bet she has a lovely cootah

  • @charlespeterwatson9051
    @charlespeterwatson9051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know Shelley Duvall suffers with effects from the same theory only less violent.

  • @balboarockyrb
    @balboarockyrb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No.. Maybe she is crazy. But Kubrick said that Jack was ALWAYS going to be apart of the hotel. Why is Jack in the Photo at the End? Thats is not Wendy's POV it os Just Kubricks Shot to show that Danny Escaped his father. Also.. Before his meeting to get the Job Jack is reading playgirl magazine.. Go back in look .... There are to many Shots that Are NOT Wendy's point of view. Maybe the Hotel was nessing with her too. But to much happens when she is Not there. Interesting theory, though EXTREEMLY wrong.

    • @desertbrat8281
      @desertbrat8281 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And how did he get out of the freezer? Wasn't it locked from the outside? It's been years since I've seen it. Didn't a spirit open it? Or was that the book?

  • @noodlehat3250
    @noodlehat3250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Stephen King hated the Movie.

    • @chriskolb3105
      @chriskolb3105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Stephen king is a nut job and his books are so overrated.

    • @noodlehat3250
      @noodlehat3250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chriskolb3105 I agree his recent books are terrible

    • @rigafraction1653
      @rigafraction1653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      King's a left wing extremist that is loonier than the characters he writes.

  • @awc723
    @awc723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chrissie jumps up and down to punch herself in the face...