THE SHINING - strange illuminations - part one

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  • Detailed study of Stanley Kubrick's thematic lighting techniques in THE SHINING. First in a series. Subscribe or you'll miss the next episode. Written, narrated and edited by Rob Ager.
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  • @collativelearning
    @collativelearning  2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    PART 2 is now up folks th-cam.com/video/IqytK3jFWc0/w-d-xo.html

    • @poutinedream5066
      @poutinedream5066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I really enjoyed this analysis, but of course I NEVER get tired of The Shining analysis videos 😏 (for my fine arts requirement at Xavier Univ in 2002? I took "The Horror Film." As political science major, apparently XU thought that one artsy farsty class would prevent me from becoming a clipboard carrying robot (it didn't. As a legislative aide, that's precisely what I became 🤣.) Anyway, disappointingly, the course never gave the Shining so much as a courtesy mention. I'd be willing to bet that wouldn't be the case if I took that class today.) I wish Kubrick was around to see that thanks to the internet- and yourself- that his amazing work and attention to detail in The Shining is finally getting the attention and appreciation it was denied for decades.
      Thank you for your work. I know it's easier to stage a scene of being kind to a homeless person while a piano plays in the background, or to film yourself eating an entire buffalo or something, and rack up millions of views and alot of money. Channels like yours are what I come to YT looking for.
      I'm normally not so sentimental, but thinking about how unappreciated much of Kubrick's work was- I know it's not much, but I just wanted to tell you I think the work you do is amazing and that your content stands alone in this "genre," for lack of a better term. My one course in cinema hardly makes me an expert 🤣, but I do know hard work and dedication to doing something right when I see it, and I just want to say thank you, because I'm guessing if you were paid by the hour, you'd probably be better off in a sweatshop in Bangladesh 😏. Seriously though- thank you for all you do. I'm sure it comes at a considerable sacrifice.

    • @collativelearning
      @collativelearning  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@poutinedream5066 Thanks, that's much appreciated. Fortunately, there isn't a great deal of sacrifice on my part. I put about the same amount of hours in as anyone with a day job does, and I get paid more than any day job ever paid me ... plus, I choose my work hours and really enjoy the work. And no boss to answer to !!! :)

    • @nbkawtgnobody
      @nbkawtgnobody 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw sunlight on top of the maze in the supposed inside shot of the maze or at least a fake light in one of the shots following Danny and his mother.

    • @donniev8181
      @donniev8181 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kubrick pointing to the lighting differences in the moon landing films. We should be able to see a mile in any direction UN those moon films, yet we can only see maybe a 100 yards. Not to mention, it would be 10-20x brighter on the moon during the day due to lack of atmosphere.

    • @cv507
      @cv507 ปีที่แล้ว

      watt about numerollogis in shining. i mean ´you will ´learn büy the #$. : ? eg blogspöttce johnny 42.53 ^??^
      12x2 doors windows ^ ^ aka pöd bäy döörs -:-

  • @lottevanderpaelt1684
    @lottevanderpaelt1684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +498

    I'm far from sick of watching analyses of The Shining, the more the better!

    • @thursoberwick1948
      @thursoberwick1948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm sick. It's not even his best film.

    • @melsteffano6189
      @melsteffano6189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@thursoberwick1948 ....ok thanks! I'll alert the Kubrick family

    • @collativelearning
      @collativelearning  2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@melsteffano6189 2001 is my fave of his, but ... so many masterpieces.

    • @pinehawk9600
      @pinehawk9600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@thursoberwick1948 why are you here?

    • @thursoberwick1948
      @thursoberwick1948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pinehawk9600Ask a philosopher!
      Or because I watch some of his other videos, and thus it comes up on my recommendations.

  • @blondiesaband
    @blondiesaband 2 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    It is unbelievable how much there is still to say about this film 40 years later

  • @TheAngryHippie
    @TheAngryHippie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +489

    I've been watching Rob's analysis videos of The Shining since I was 14 back in 2008. As interesting now as it was then!

    • @ohfuvk8968
      @ohfuvk8968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Was about to write a similar comment. Been watching his videos(a lot of the Shining ones) since 2013 and it amazes me that I’m still learning and seeing new things in 2022 from this channel.

    • @CarbuncleYT
      @CarbuncleYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I started watching him in 2009 when I was 14 and he was doing video nasties analysis. It was so interesting and got me thinking critically about movies.

    • @hammadhaider
      @hammadhaider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The genius of Rob and Kubrick are limitless

    • @xocomaox
      @xocomaox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      2011 for me!

    • @v10moped
      @v10moped 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      no one cares.

  • @catoblepag
    @catoblepag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I suggest an alternate title for the video: "The Overlit Hotel"
    😁 Very interesting analysis Rob, for some reason I've never noticed (not rationally) that the lighting of the twins gave them hollow eyes, like skulls.

  • @rosscampbell1173
    @rosscampbell1173 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    As a carpenter, I’m struck by all the architectural details of the Overlook set. There’s so many time/ labor intensive details in the millwork alone that it’s hard to believe it’s not actually 80 years old.

  • @Logan-cw9yr
    @Logan-cw9yr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I always loved the transition of them entering the maze. As an outdoorsman, when the bright sunny day of the exterior shifts to a completely blank gray sky, my first thought was "oh shit now they don't know which direction they're facing". Really awesome detail. Once you're in the thick of the maze there is absolutely no orienting yourself.

    • @johngriffiths118
      @johngriffiths118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I assume the external shoots in the maze were filmed in the UK . It could just be British weather

    • @watermelonlalala
      @watermelonlalala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I noticed in Rosemary's Baby, 1968, she has a dream sequence which starts with her sitting on a boat with the sun shining on the water and switches to a gray sky and gray water as the dream gets more strange. Everyone would definitely notice the change and wonder why the director did that. Maybe just to make you wonder, "What's happening?"

    • @Peter-ff1tp
      @Peter-ff1tp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johngriffiths118
      The maze was shot at the MGM lot in England.
      As far as I know that’s the only exterior shot not filmed in Oregon.

    • @maxkrumme
      @maxkrumme ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johngriffiths118 Elstree Studios in Hertfordshire, England 🤗🌥

    • @jacedaniel
      @jacedaniel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Meh. Maybe they were in the maze for 45 minutes before we see the second shot. Skies and shadows change.

  • @walterevans2118
    @walterevans2118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Stanley Kubrick was the absolute MASTER of Photography & lighting .He was a photographer before he was a moviemaker. His lenses on Barry Lyndon were built by Nasa ...I never knew Kubrick did the lighting on the Spy Who Loved Me.

    • @davidlean1060
      @davidlean1060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      More than that, Kubrick had to figure out how to mount the lenses on his camera. They were not made for movie cameras, they were made for satellites etc, so not only was using the lenses innovative, he had to innovate further to use them on his film.

    • @walterevans2118
      @walterevans2118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidlean1060 yes

    • @walterevans2118
      @walterevans2118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davidlean1060 Stanley was a Wonderful perfectionist. No wonder his photography in his movies was so unforgettable. Did you hear that story when he was working on one of his early films ....He set up a complex dolly shot. With a specific lens. Then he gave the task to an assistant. But the assistant started to change the setup to cut corners. He put the dolly track at a greater distance & tried to use a different lens simply because it would save time & make things easier for him...But with Stanley's specialist knowledge he knew it would make a CHANGE to the shot that would make it inferior to what he originally wanted. And Stanley said - 'Do the set up like it was with the lens I wanted or leave the set please.' ....Stanley wasn't going to have corner cutters messing up his brilliant shots.

    • @davidlean1060
      @davidlean1060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@walterevans2118 There's a youtube channel called stanleyandus and it features short annecdotes like that from crew, a few actors and so on. I think it was his editor who said to a newbie on set (who argued with Kubrick over how many frames of silence there were between the rings of a telephone in the scene they were screening, of all things!) that you should never argue with Kubrick, because he only argued when he knew he was right. No one could do what he did, but he seemed to know everyone else's job as well, or better, than they did!

    • @fufu1128
      @fufu1128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah didn't know about the Bond set!
      If anyone could fake the moon landing, it was him!

  • @TheArtofGuitar
    @TheArtofGuitar ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love what you're doing man. Great stuff. Is it strange that The Shining is a comfort film for me?

  • @granthonsowetz8511
    @granthonsowetz8511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Just when I think I understand the film you throw another curveball that completely shifts my perspective. Thank you for your dedication to this series.

    • @plasticweapon
      @plasticweapon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      BAAAAA

    • @RideAcrossTheRiver
      @RideAcrossTheRiver 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jack goes outside to chase Danny ... and flips on all the lights!

  • @HumanHamCube
    @HumanHamCube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Underrated channel and true film theory. Many channels don't/can't break things down like this. Truly good work.

    • @xocomaox
      @xocomaox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rob's process is very well executed, and you can really see the amount of experience he has in film analysis when watching his videos.

    • @HumanHamCube
      @HumanHamCube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@xocomaox I have 30+ credits in film. Its my life. Robs content consistently re-inspires my eye. Robs intellectual, technical and emotional attention to details makes me look deeper in my work and revisit films in a new way

  • @MrBoBoBo
    @MrBoBoBo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    He acts like we don’t greatly enjoy his shining theories. We love ‘em!

    • @watermelonlalala
      @watermelonlalala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He acts like we wouldn't sit through anything, even if we think maybe those lights don't make much difference except in the composition of the shot as a piece of art.

  • @hereitis2023
    @hereitis2023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    That your material has always been original is beyond reproach, but the Kubrickian wormholes you choose to travel through that are so unique. Not only do you successfully arrive at the end with at least food for thought, you also take more than a few of us along for the ride. Well done.

  • @danderson9636
    @danderson9636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Kubrick was and is the master of cinematic lighting. It's one of his greatest legacies

  • @jdsrcs8061
    @jdsrcs8061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    The lighting effects are great in this movie. The one thing that I would point is the number of lamps. It was fairly common in the 60s and 70s to not have ceiling lights but instead switch leg wiring. Meaning that 1 or more wall plugs are wired to the wall switch. The result was rooms that were very dark, so adding 2 or more lamps were common just to have enough light to read. My parents house is like this. As well as our house and our entire neighborhood. When we remodeled, I added ceiling lights everywhere. When do we get part 2!?!?👍👍👍

    • @mk-ultramags1107
      @mk-ultramags1107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Films are being shot digitally so much nowadays that I feel like the talent of properly lighting sets has become somewhat of a lost art. Errors are fixed in post and it just rings out as lazy IMO. I think to someone like David Cronenberg... If you watch his work like Videodrome, The Fly, Dead Ringers etc, those films are shot very traditionally. His films are loaded with great scares and effects but by doing it the way he does, it just feels more realistic. Kubrick did the same but was more cerebral with his lighting choices.

    • @watermelonlalala
      @watermelonlalala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Houses without ceiling lights? Every house I ever saw had a ceiling light in the middle of every room, usually with a square bowl type glass covering below the light bulbs. And a light switch right inside the door. Except for the bathrooms, which had the light over the sink.

    • @mk-ultramags1107
      @mk-ultramags1107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@watermelonlalala Modern houses, absolutely. I live in an old single level ranch house, its almost entirely lit by lamps. The kitchen has the overhead though. Even my room has 2 lamps. I can say that i do think most houses i walk in nowadays have both though. Especially anything newer. My friend is a successful carpenter and has very big jobs. I actually asked him about this tonight and he was telling me about a recent job building an $8mil house and its all LED lights on the ceiling and walls and its obviously its very bright. But he said over his 20yrs of experience, anytime he's done a complete renovation of a house built in the 50s-70s(Where i live is loaded with California Style Ranches and Old Fashioned Ranches etc that were built for soldiers coming home from the Korean and Vietnam War, he said its not uncommon to see mostly lamps albeit every kitchen has the overhead and bathrooms usually have them too or have it from the mirrors. I'm not disagreeing with you but I do think there's some exceptions.

    • @watermelonlalala
      @watermelonlalala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mk-ultramags1107 OK. To tell you the truth, I am not much of one to notice decor or light fixtures.

    • @ChatGPT1111
      @ChatGPT1111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a new house here in Florida and it has both ceiling lights/fans and wall switches wired to a couple outlets in each room.

  • @TheSuperQuail
    @TheSuperQuail 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Funny how Rob thinks people could get sick of his videos. They are quite possibly the most engaging film analyses available anywhere.

    • @collativelearning
      @collativelearning  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It's great that a decent portion of you folks feel that way. I have my haters too :)

    • @christophermirkovich7290
      @christophermirkovich7290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@collativelearning no you don't

    • @WhiteChocolate74
      @WhiteChocolate74 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@collativelearning who would hate these videos? 😑

  • @bengszy8124
    @bengszy8124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The Shining always reminds me of paintings of René Magritte visually, the doors and gardens etc. especially the one called The Empire of Light which has a daylight sky against a night landscape.

    • @robertmcghintheorca49
      @robertmcghintheorca49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Those paintings also famously inspired the scene in "The Exorcist" when Father Lankester Merrin arrives at the McNeil house.

  • @aakkoin
    @aakkoin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It's hard to comprehend the massive genius of Kubrick.... How he could be a practical expert on technical aspects of film making, but also a genius in conceptual, abstract stuff.

    • @ModMax69
      @ModMax69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He mastered lighting for practical reasons is what is great about it. He probably treated it as a subtle nuisance that mastering would help him avoid bothering with.

  • @straightup7up
    @straightup7up ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your theories about The Shining are unique and articulated very well which keeps things interesting.

  • @ryanburns6284
    @ryanburns6284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Just when you think interest in Kubrick was wavering Rob comes along , kicks in your front door and hands you this fucking gem 👍

    • @TheSopheom
      @TheSopheom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kubricks odyssey by Jay Weidner, now THATS a kick in the teeth!

  • @kerrytakashi12
    @kerrytakashi12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The lighting of the film also keeps in mind the position of the audience in the theater. It's basically from a theater goer's perspective. So it adds a kind of VR effect, almost like those motion simulator rides that became popular a short while after the release of this film. The opening shot when viewed in the theater is akin to being dangled outside the helicopter.

  • @funkyflights
    @funkyflights ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Such a great movie, watched it so many times and it never gets boring… You can just see the care that went into the film ..

  • @HC-cb4yp
    @HC-cb4yp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    13:38 This is the first time I noticed those tubes in the far background that offer some good horror in the book but aren't mentioned in the movie at all. Amazing that Kubrick would have them there even though he never "goes" to them or uses them. That's impressive.

  • @theshape3988
    @theshape3988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I'm loving this guys videos. He catches things most people "overlook" see what I did there? Lol all jokes aside this guy makes great content that's interesting and thought provoking

  • @iconoclast137
    @iconoclast137 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i don't care if you are "right" or "wrong" about any of this, your analysis of the shining is always fascinating

  • @k.l.spencer5635
    @k.l.spencer5635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I could watch these Shining analyses forever and ever and ever! Amazing stuff!

  • @Buford_T_Justice1
    @Buford_T_Justice1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Rob, yours are the only The Shining analysis videos I care about.
    This is another great example of your skills. I’ve never heard anyone bring up the lighting in the movie.
    Bravo!

  • @nadjajohansson8569
    @nadjajohansson8569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I always thought that the lamps were symbolic of sudden realizations, like the lamps behind Wendy as she sees the river of blood or the man in the bear costume. Much like in old cartoons, when a lightbuld goes on above a character's head. She now "sees", i.e realizes what Danny's been seeing all along.

    • @watermelonlalala
      @watermelonlalala 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I spent so much time looking at the objects and colors around the characters' heads in The Shining - but I never noticed the lamps.

  • @robinsquares
    @robinsquares 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This level of analysis could make The Room a masterpiece

  • @thebarky1988
    @thebarky1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Rob, I would never get sick of your analysis videos of the Shining. I am always learning more. I think I am an observant person but I miss so much with your analysis.

  • @venomj8179
    @venomj8179 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I will never get tired of your analysis on the Shining Rob keep em videos coming.

  • @jonathancarlson6127
    @jonathancarlson6127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel the lamp in the back when Hallorann is on the phone symbolizes Danny “shining” for help, though distant- it’s glaring, and unable to be ignored.

  • @Shockzone1495
    @Shockzone1495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Been watching your channel for 12 years now. And your film theories will never get old in my opinion.

  • @TheJuRK
    @TheJuRK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    As a lifelong Kubrick fan, I'm mildly surprised that his most studied film ended up being The Shining.
    In the 700+ page book, Studies in the Horror Film: The Shining, different cast & crew would point discrepancies out to Kubrick and he'd chuckle, "It's just a ghost story."
    But so much lends itself to careful thought and study, I'm still wondering...was it just a ghost story?

    • @collativelearning
      @collativelearning  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah, ironically, his answer is true.

    • @haycockjeff
      @haycockjeff 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. Like the book. But the film is better. It’s a haunted hotel. The hotel is mentioned in Kings other book - Misery.

  • @KatsPurr
    @KatsPurr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We like to assume that Kubrick's motivation for switching lights around is to "mess with our minds", but perhaps the explanation is less dramatic and romantic. Kubrick obviously had a strong artistic eye and most likely he simply wanted a shot to look as good as it possibly could. If that sometimes required turning this light off, and that light on: so be it. As long as the shot was nailed.

  • @SpotlessLeopard
    @SpotlessLeopard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Stuart Ullman, who interviews Jack for the job near the start, has initials that are the 19th and 21st letters of the alphabet.
    1921 is the year of the picture Jack is 'trapped' in at the end.
    Probably another non-coincidence.

    • @collativelearning
      @collativelearning  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Ah, I don't go in for calculus interpretations of that kind generally. The girls on the gameshow Countdown can reach a target number with random numbers nearly every time.

    • @SpotlessLeopard
      @SpotlessLeopard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@collativelearning Agreed, but given Kubrick's attention to detail, you wouldn't put it past him.
      I bet there are exactly the same number of stones on top of his grave as hairs in his left eyebrow or something.

    • @tonywords6713
      @tonywords6713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@collativelearning how do you know it's calculus and not kabalistic gematria. Ironically many would dismiss your stuff under the same logic that it's just random stuff being over thought.

    • @collativelearning
      @collativelearning  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@tonywords6713 Because I seek evidence first and build my interpretations on that, instead of picking a theory out of a hat and then trying to force the evidence to fit. I've seen no evidence of kabalistic gematria so have no reason to assume it's there. Others have tried to dismiss my stuff as being random and over-thought, as you say, but they've failed because they lack plausible explanations for all the details I point out .. and several of my interpretations have been later strongly supported by further production info or statements by the film makers.

  • @taiya001
    @taiya001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing I want to add. The bench in the beginning of the maze is probably for photos. I could see weddings and other events using the maze as a prop. The bench just adds a little element to the scene or a place for photo takers to have their subjects take a seat.

  • @nolagospeltracts8264
    @nolagospeltracts8264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best film analysis channel on You Tube. I've purchased this cat's materials before. Well worth it.

  • @brokenfoxx
    @brokenfoxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    And there can never be enough analysis on this movie. It's odd; I enjoy analysis on the movie more than I've ever enjoyed the movie itself! So please, as long as you're willing, keep them coming! Especially because you actually clearly respect the work and talent Kubrick had and it makes all the difference. So thank you ✨

  • @gregsmith7949
    @gregsmith7949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a huge Kubrick fan, no one can touch you when it comes to analyzing his films. I'm always learning new ways to interpret his art thanks to your commentary. 👍

  • @b.w.22
    @b.w.22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As regards to the different lights being on during Halloran’s murder, etc., I interpret that to be the hotel making of itself something different for each person, kind-of like how the maze and floor plan changes around. So the hotel puts Jack into shadow for Halloran but illuminates Jack’s path and acts as a subconscious guide. In this way, we can see that the hotel itself really is a living entity, changing what it presents to people in order to manipulate, confuse, frighten, or guide.

  • @tmrezzek5728
    @tmrezzek5728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Never thought about it before, but in The Shining--with all the brightly-lit rooms and Steadicam tracking shots--the viewer doesn't have a choice; we're quietly being sucked into the horror that the characters experience and we *will* see what they see. That's why those zooms at the end (Halloran dead on the floor, etc.) are so jarring and effective--we've been lulled with the smooth ambiance of the film and suddenly the ambiance cracks a little bit. Great video!

  • @Wyrmwould
    @Wyrmwould 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    You mentioned the bench that vanishes when Wendy and Danny enter the maze. I noticed that the completely white sky only appears when there are no benches. When they enter the maze, blue sky is visible and there is a bench. When they reach the center of the maze, you can see blue in the sky and there are several benches. I think Kubrick didn't include benches in the indoor version of the maze. The benches only exist in the outdoor version. If that is true, why would he do that? Just to create more disorientation for the viewer? (Note: Just in case there is any confusion, when I refer to the "indoor version" I am not referring to the little model in the Overlook that Jack hovers over).

    • @esaeelljae
      @esaeelljae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      aside: didn't he state that no other benches are seen inside after the one just inside the entrance?

    • @m.n.s.s2825
      @m.n.s.s2825 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cause the maze was a hallucination and never existed..you can see it obviously when the hotel was shown from Heli view or far distanced. There was no maze Infront of the hotel

  • @SamsarasArt
    @SamsarasArt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I look forward to part 2. Your analysis makes an already incredible horror film even more unsettling.

  • @scottlee28
    @scottlee28 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought I knew everything there was to about this movie, but Rob has once again opened my eyes to see more. This movie is absolutely fascinating and Rob's analyses of this film are terrific. Thanks Rob!

  • @BadOmen2
    @BadOmen2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your videos are always so insightful and concise. One of the few channels that I have consistently come back to and watched for over a decade. I knew since the first time I watched Kubrick films that there was far more depth than your average film. I had to look into it more and stumbled upon your channel. I had no idea how deep the rabbit hole went. Well done Rob.

  • @andrewtc95
    @andrewtc95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love your Shining videos. Thank you for introducing this GenZ/Millennial to better films.

  • @ingvarhallstrom2306
    @ingvarhallstrom2306 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The mysterious maze shot looks like a usual cloudy day in England to me? I would guess it is an outside maze and clever Kubrick had it standing production ready and just waited out the time for the right lighting while shooting other stuff in the meantime. Classic chess move.

  • @mattyjohnsson257
    @mattyjohnsson257 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting as always. However, the overcast during the Maze sequence isn't such as mystery to me though. Probably just shot on a slightly overcast day as opposed to the running sequence before.

  • @RomanticAnalog
    @RomanticAnalog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your Shining videos are always super interesting and this one is no exception!

  • @robertcain5930
    @robertcain5930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gotta say. U sure do reach for the stars 🌟. I watched 3 movies in a row now where there were 4 lamps in a room 😑. Maybe he was just symmetrical

  • @bloodrunsclear
    @bloodrunsclear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The lighting gives you the impression that there's nowhere to hide.

  • @juzujuzu4555
    @juzujuzu4555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There can never be enough Kubrick and The Shining videos. The best director/artist of all time, and the most perfect film of all time. I can never get enough of Kubrick and Lynch. Sadly we lost Kubrick too early. So I'll pray Lynch will still bless us with Twin Peaks season 4.

  • @ryancalhoun2910
    @ryancalhoun2910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My favorite Kubrick film ever. For as many great films as he made, this and Eyes Wide Shut stand out

  • @Somethirdthing
    @Somethirdthing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    what a cool exploration, as a layman, ive always enjoyed kubriks lighting affect, but never heard it articulated. Well done Rob!

  • @pauliedibbs9028
    @pauliedibbs9028 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just can't help but feel that the bedroom in 237 has a connection to the 'bedroom' we see at the end of 2001. The pillows on the bed, and the colors of course, steer me towards that direction...

  • @ErickOlesen
    @ErickOlesen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "BEAR with me." Nice touch.

  • @VulgarDisplayofBacon
    @VulgarDisplayofBacon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can never get enough Rob Ager Shining videos! great work as always Rob

  • @patricktilton5377
    @patricktilton5377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    When Jack gets out his wallet to pay for a drink from Lloyd, he finds it's empty, and then says that he's momentarily "light" -- i.e. there's no heavy cash weighing down his wallet -- but "light" could be a metaphor, if it's synonymous with "shining" . . . as in, Jack, seeing and interacting with Lloyd, is doing so because he, too, can "shine" just like Danny and Hallorann. Just a thought . . .

    • @collativelearning
      @collativelearning  2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Good one :)

    • @couchpotato3197
      @couchpotato3197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@collativelearning Dont cameras use light to capture pictures with flashes? It could add some light symbolism to the ending photos like that wallet metaphor too. That and they get developed away from light too and light factors into the quality of a picture like film

    • @ModMax69
      @ModMax69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@couchpotato3197 I like where youre going with that

    • @danscheckler5357
      @danscheckler5357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also, when he meets Lloyd again, he has 2 twenties and 2 tens. The money is mirrored as well. Going with the mirror themes

    • @theresechristiansen9769
      @theresechristiansen9769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@danscheckler5357 perfect. I darn well never thought of that....

  • @aloc23
    @aloc23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i never get tired listening to you talking about shining

  • @daweller
    @daweller 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    14:24 the narrator is talking about the change in lighting within the maze... what if Kubrik meant to imply that Jack's big head was blocking out the sun? ie. when he is looking at the model of the maze, that moment is manifested into the reality of Wendy and son running arround in the 'real-life' maze on the outside... so when they experience the change in lighting, it is actually ( supernaturally) Jack's noggin blocking out the sun...

    • @yaboydolphin
      @yaboydolphin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      pass the joint

    • @RideAcrossTheRiver
      @RideAcrossTheRiver 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jack's noggin has a bleeding injury ... and so does the Great Party 'ghost'

  • @petemartell677
    @petemartell677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the thrill of noticing something like this in a movie youve seen hundreds of times. Well done!

  • @michaelrapson
    @michaelrapson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've watched this film several times and thought about it a lot. My tentative appraisal is that Kubrick was using the movie as a vehicle to deconstruct the American dream, piece by piece, icon by icon. An ambitious project, but not beyond a man like Kubrick to attempt. So many clues point to tearing down Americana, and undercutting the confidence of middle class family people (in particular) in the power of the dream... Maybe I will make a documentary about this one day if I ever get the chance.

  • @alexrain1188
    @alexrain1188 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing that we can return to this movie so many times. I’m so great full for your wonderful intellect.

  • @BlancGivre
    @BlancGivre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think that Kubrick waited for a cloudy day to shoot the scenes from inside the maze. He would, of course, have exposed to get the greenery inside the maze bright enough so that it didn't all come out as black, which would have overexposed the gray sky, turning it into white. He seemed to have chosen a sunny day for that scene when they walk outside the maze so to convey that there is something weird going on inside the maze, with its different lighting.

  • @josullivan5604
    @josullivan5604 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the “switched on/off lights” always interested me and my family. we grew up in a haunted house and the lights “playing games” with us was a common spectral event. creepy. the thing i like about this movie are these scenes with Wendy running through the basement from a feeling…not some “appearance.” Very accurate to our daily lives.

  • @kyleshockley1573
    @kyleshockley1573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great stuff. Between Kubrick, Roger Deakins and Janusz Kaminski, there's alot to unpack in just their approach to lighting, directional use and color temperature. I'm sure there's a whole gang of other DP's and directors who have their own ways they use lighting as a story teller.

  • @sabojezles
    @sabojezles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Considering the fact that videos about this film concentrate only on ''symbolism and meaning and theories and conspiracies'' it's a breath of fresh air to see film essays like this. Thank you.

  • @NOCTURNUSFILM
    @NOCTURNUSFILM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The whole maze analysis disappears into thin air as soon as you know how a camera works. Especially at different times of the day in different weather conditions.

  • @billvolpicellifilms4433
    @billvolpicellifilms4433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BRILLIANT...like the lighting in The Shining

  • @markhirstwood4190
    @markhirstwood4190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great analysis, nobody's sick of the topic or you doing more than one episode on The Shining, Rob, please keep them coming, just tops. Lightswitches are clues in Eyes Wide Shut, including with Milich turning lights on at Rainbow Fashions and more. As Bill and Alice leave their bedroom, they are in front of a painting. On Alice's side of that painting is a portrayal of a dark path. As they walk toward us in the hallway, Alice's eyes get those shadows around them and the skull effec is cleart, very briefly, easy to miss. 9:09 - left, in the glass of the door, on an angle, a quick reflection of a white 'i'. Stair bannister shadows are seen behind Bill as he's hoping to meet Domino again but instead meets Sally. The lamps can form a sort of vertical cat eye pupil, more of a subliminal thing. 4 is a pattern in Eyes Wide Shut so in The Shining the 3 dresser drawer handles behind the bear costume man, then 4 lamps, not surprising in retrospect. 10:29 - some lens flare 'gem'? is on Jack's elbow then it moves right across the shot. Maze map sides look like subliminal 'eyes'. 25:42 - radiator heaters are also seen through various scenes in Eyes Wide Shut.th

  • @siskothekid4620
    @siskothekid4620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Rob! Never get tired of your analyses on this film.

  • @oniriscope
    @oniriscope 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh my…
    This level of ingenuity is unparalleled…
    I’m definitely sharing your work!
    If those are the simpler tricks…I can’t wait for the other parts!
    Bravo!

  • @CallofFreaky
    @CallofFreaky ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love the lights changing between shots

  • @mitchycool92
    @mitchycool92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brilliant video! I’m an aspiring filmmaker myself and your videos have been so very helpful!

  • @PrimaryTheCat
    @PrimaryTheCat 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ll never stop being obsessed with this movie and it’s so called secrets. I love all of the Collative Learning deep digging into this movie but I can’t help thinking that dear old Kubrick is looking down from the afterlife and having a good old smeck at us trying to figure out his craft. I know he was a meticulous man for sure but I bet he got a kick out of mystery for the sake of it, especially when he wasn’t faithful to the source. Still, a movie that haunts and entices me to this day. Thanks Kubrick and thanks Ager. I love that this film is still in our hearts and minds all these years later.

  • @michaellicko2746
    @michaellicko2746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think there is definitely some visual foreshadowing happening in the scene where Halloran is making the phone call. I think it’s clear that Halloran was in the room with the lamp on, so this shows him going from the light to the dark, a place of safety to a place of danger.

  • @lopirobinson1991
    @lopirobinson1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your videos man. Could never be sick of them 👍 You've fundamentally changed the way I see many aspects of films.

  • @Ballardian
    @Ballardian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The table lamp lighting reminds me of Lynch's Eraserhead, where there are similarly creepy (but more noticable) lamp shots. In fact I read that Kubrick was partly inspired by Eraserhead when making this film, and even got the whole cast to watch it.

    • @Thespeedrap
      @Thespeedrap 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really 😳 I saw that movie 1 time and it's very creepy and disturbing.No wonder if Kubrick did like it he made his scary movie even better.

    • @Thespeedrap
      @Thespeedrap 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should tell Rob about it and see what he thinks.

  • @mattrishton
    @mattrishton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the maze was shot on different days with different weather. for the interior he chose an overcast day to avoid jarring exposure differences and also like you say to create a uniform soft light that removes any clues of directionality provided by the position of the sun.

  • @andrewbrendan1579
    @andrewbrendan1579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I agree with the "traditional" lighting aspect of part of "The Shining". When this is mentioned between 9:00 and 10:00 I'm reminded of Count Orlock climbing the stairs in "Nosferatu" as we see Wending ascending the staircase in the Overlook.
    I must be really dense because there is so much in ths movie that I completely did NOT notice until being directed to these outstanding anaylyses! Thank you for these Collative Learning videos which have made this movie so much more for me.
    Even though it's the residence of evil, I'm a big fan of the Overlook Hotel simply as a building. I would love to spend the winter there. Another movie location of which I'm a big fan is the apartment of Rosemary and Guy in "Rosemary's Baby", both verisons of the apartment: before and after Rosemay redecorates. Not a residence but the dining room of the S.S. Poseidon in the 1972 version of "The Poseidon Adventure" is one of the most beautiful rooms I've ever seen.
    Please bring on the second part. I'm eager for more!

    • @watermelonlalala
      @watermelonlalala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Funny you bring up Orlock and Overlook, because I have thought for awhile that Overlook might be a reference to Morlock in the original Time Machine, where these monstrous humans live underground and prey on the normal humans who live above them. The Morlock Hotel. And Morlock is thought to be a reference to Moloch, the Canaanite god of child sacrifice.

    • @andrewbrendan1579
      @andrewbrendan1579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@watermelonlalala I think you may be on to something here!

  • @peppermint23
    @peppermint23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rob, I absolutely live and breathe for your Kubrick videos.

  • @danielj3594
    @danielj3594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    How on earth do you notice these details. This is genius.

    • @collativelearning
      @collativelearning  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My secret ;)

    • @vladislavno
      @vladislavno ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He has no life

    • @danielj3594
      @danielj3594 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vladislavno 😄

    • @Musicalto
      @Musicalto 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vladislavno I’d say a life analyzing art is a much more fulfilling life than one putting others down for their hobbies

    • @vladislavno
      @vladislavno 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Musicalto difference is my hobby takes 15 minutes a week. His takes 15 hours.

  • @aliensounddigital8729
    @aliensounddigital8729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The hotel carpet designs are so beautiful.

  • @mr.coolmug3181
    @mr.coolmug3181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think he changes the lighting in order to stop the audience from consciously (or subconsciously) being able to place themselves. It creates this maze-like confusion in the mind of the viewer. The lighting itself is creepy. It reminds me of painting by Andrew Wyeth called 'Witching Hour'. It uses the same unnatural, over-lit effect to make you feel that something is eerie.

    • @beekneed
      @beekneed 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just looked up that painting--terrifying!

  • @robertflores7819
    @robertflores7819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of my favorite movies of all time. I never realized the light changes in those scenes and I thought I was aware of a lot of this movie’s minutia. Great job and I will be on the lookout for the next parts.

  • @zeezeerhydon7083
    @zeezeerhydon7083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Something that just occured to me after your description of the changing lights during holeran's death is how much the hall way looks almost like a temple. The pillars are stained red and there is this dark and gringy feeling that comes from that part of the movie. It's like holeran is being sacrificed and jack has been possessed or controlled in some way.

  • @MittensOnly
    @MittensOnly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You've given me such incredible insight on this movie, to the point where it is my favorite of all time; and you keep making my love for it deeper!
    Awesome stuff. At some point I realized that the lighting was done to deliberately show you all the horror, but I never realized all the different lighting changed happening from frame to frame. I heavily adds to the disorientation already present in the other aspects of the film

  • @DaCrazyHand
    @DaCrazyHand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm eagerly awaiting the inevitable video: "The Kubrick Code that Points Us to the Holy Grail." Love your stuff!

    • @johngriffiths118
      @johngriffiths118 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      “ Kubrick and assassination of Kennedy …on the Moon “

    • @Myrzghe
      @Myrzghe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no hole for a penis in that bear mask, so he must be doing something else.. What do bears like? Honey! What is the color of honey? Gold! What could be a disgusting term for what he is doing?
      "Deuteronomy 6:3
      Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the Lord God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey"
      The grail is under that bed!

  • @peregrinec5477
    @peregrinec5477 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude. I LOVE your stuff. I'm a total film geek, too. And, I have spent a ton of time studying certain films. Among them, this one and, The Exorcist. I thought I had exhausted everything with this one in particular. But, you always come up with something fascinating. Keep it coming!

  • @truefilm6991
    @truefilm6991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent as always. Well I accepted the over lit hotel since most movies of the 1970s were ridiculously over lit. Film needed a lot of light back then. Around 1980 some movies were lit to resemble paintings, especially those of the Dutch school. Kubrick did that already with Barry Lyndon. So yes, this was a decision of the master. I appreciate that you don't just interpret what you see, but how it may have been done. About the white sky: if you set your aperture to the darker objects, the sky blows easily, even with negative film, which has a latitude of about 13 stops.

    • @moodyharvest
      @moodyharvest ปีที่แล้ว

      I've seen hundreds of 70s movies and not got that impression.
      The film stocks got faster in the late 60s onward so filmmakers could use lighter equipment and less heavy lighting.

  • @SerMattzio
    @SerMattzio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always love a Collative Learning Kubrick Analysis

  • @Wills_Duffy
    @Wills_Duffy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Rob, great episode. Few thoughts regards white out light over maze. There is white out light behind Ullman in his office window. And white out light in the great lounge room outside the main windows. All of it meaning Kubrick is definitely up to his tricks with the white light. It is like he has manipulated the light into something artificial to communicate a message to the viewer of artificiality of reality. Which could be viewed as a cue to the viewer to consider the natural world outside of the Overlook in another way. To see it like it is its own fake system of light. Thereby extending the Overlook hotel metaphor outwards into the universe therefore raising the spectre of the possibility that the world itself is indeed an Overlook hotel.

  • @KidFresh71
    @KidFresh71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant oration. Illuminating analysis. Lit channel! You're shining light in new places. Bright as always.

  • @donthespotter6550
    @donthespotter6550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I watch/listen to your shining videos alot always look forward to a new one

  • @dahlialilly
    @dahlialilly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Never clicked on a video faster

  • @Frank_nwobhm
    @Frank_nwobhm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's probably been noted either here or somewhere else that when Wendy ascends the staircase with the knife in her hand, the scenes lighting replicates the famous scene in Nosferatu in which the vampire's shadow is cast upon the wall as he ascends the staircase.
    Please excuse me if this is common knowledge and that the point has been made numerous times, but I just now noticed it for the first time. Mr. Kubrick had to be paying homage to the silent film classic. Your presentations are great for getting me to see things in a different light.

  • @cryptoesquire3168
    @cryptoesquire3168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Getting closer to solving the riddle of the "impossible window" by finding those "impossible shadows" in the eyes, etc. Once those two are reconciled you will have solved it. I think Kubrick changing the lights was also to get you to think about "lighting," which worked. Check out the lighting in the window behind the twins when they flash the axe scene. I think the light on in the dark Gold Room was the light on the bar (!) but could be wrong. Looking forward to the next one!

  • @monsterjazzlicks
    @monsterjazzlicks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this series again because it is so excellent!

  • @justinrubin2533
    @justinrubin2533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have opened my eyes to watching this (and other films) with more keen insight due to your work! On that point, have you considered the RED mittens both are wearing (and not wearing) - quotes like 'caught RED handed' and 'with BLOOD on your hands' come to mind -- together with other theories on the multiple thematic metaphors strewn throughout the film. Also - Danny seems to have REMOVED his mittens at the close of the scene (after being observed from 'overhead').