Bloomburrow Previews || TTC Ep513
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- Graham, Kathleen, and Cameron sit down on this weeks episode of TTC to discuss the absolute cuteness overload that is Bloomburrow!
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"Pacify the parent, Doom Blade the Child" - that's a keeper quote
I'd be very happy if this ended up on a button
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“No I just started reading in the middle of the paragraph” might be one of the most magic player sentences of all time
It's what I rely on to get shame scoops in Brawl 😂😂
Especially calling two sentences a paragraph.
Magic card have so fewer words than yugioh cards. That was one reason why I stopped playing ygi
“This is kicker with birth control” is up there with “the snorse that bobs wrong” for unhinged magic player sentences
I still say that "the snorse that Bobs wrong" takes it because that hardly registers as a coherent sentence, but that's pretty close.
An honourable mention of mine: "The Welephant has Bample".
Great news, Cameron! It's both! You can't flicker it to get the Offspring, but it's still an Enter the Battlefield trigger, so Panharmicons will count it!
I’m glad I hibernated my mtg interest for this set. The plane of bloomburrow feels so damn alive, the vorthos in me adores it.
Tamiyo is a rabbit not just because her hair fits. In Japanese culture, instead of seeing a face on the moon, it's a rabbit on the moon pounding mochi, so all Moonfolk are intended to fit the Japanese aesthetic of associating the Moon with rabbits.
Not a Judge, but I am pretty sure the effect of gifting is resolved during the resolution of the spell, and it is the first effect that happens when the spell resolves.
Since no player has priority in the middle of the resolution of a spell, if you gift a card the opponent draws a card first, but can't do nothing with it until the spell resolves, and anything that triggers for the card being draw (i.e. Niv-Mizzet) goes on the stack after the spell's resolution, with obvious exceptions like replacement effects (i.e. Notion Thief).
I'm sorry i'm very offended that "The Offspring" pun wasn't "You're Gonna Go Far Kid"
I would have also accepted "The Kids Aren't Alright".
That “horrible spiky thing” is a house centipede, and they are friends who keep things out of the pantry, and you should respect them! I’m not crying, you’re crying!
It isn't, though it sort of looks like a centipede. As the flavour text says, it is a worm, particularly a "Bobbit worm", which is a type of marine worm with nasty nasty mandibles
@@Grymm_the_Pleasant sniffs. Okay… I’ll accept this… just so long as they don’t make fun of the wiggly babies
The cute set with Mice and Rabbits and Otters has introduced, as one of its unique mechanics, _child endangerment_ !!!
(That is meant as a joke, I don't actually think that WotC are encouraging children to grab sharp things and run at traffic.)
Offspring is a “fixed” version of squad and I’m glad to see it in the game. This set is looking pretty rad and I’m looking forward to drafting it.
It's not "fixed," just different. That's like saying "Bloodrush is a fixed version of Channel," while one is certainly a subset of the other, that does not mean the other is broken and needed fixing.
I really like the frog names in this set with Flubs being the best froggy boy there is.
I appreciate the contrast between Flubs and Glarb versus Helga and Clement.
24:34 I think an Elden Ring type game with a Bloomburrow type setting would be pretty cool.
Sort of like Hollowknight.
According to Wikipedia, the finest of all sources, Moose and Elk are the exact same species (Alces alces), with the name Moose being used in North America and the name Elk being used in Eurasia.
This distribution is attributed to the etymology of those names. "Moose" came into American English from the Algonquian family of First Nations languages, from Proto-Algonquian *mo·swa, while "Elk" has its roots in Proto-Germanic *elho. The genus and species name "Alces" also is the old Latin name for moose and is thought to have the same etymology as "Elk".
Also, about the great art in the set: I love all the art in the Season cycle, but most of them that of Season of Loss.
This set is too cute, I hope the kids who get into it because of this set stay strong, same for their parents
Especially since the next set is pure horror.
27:31 I'm suddenly finding it absolutely hilarious that the moose goes in the squirrel deck.
@LLRMTG
We still call the "European Moose" Elk. We always called them Elk, British colonists then started calling Wapiti "Elk" because if you aren't used to them a big deer is a big deer. Wapiti being the Cree and Shawnee words for "North American Elk".
Moose is originally an Algonquian word.
So I propose the easiest way to keep this clear is:
- Leave "North American" Moose as Moose
- Leave "European" Elk as Elk
-Rename "North American Elk" to Wapiti.
Thus each region can keep its original word for its animal. In English at least, the other languages can sort out their own issues.
Thanks for the fun wiki rabbit hole, and your welcome for the comment engagement.
"When it enters it may have offspring" nearly made me laugh my pop through my nose!!
Wish you would have talked about Ygra, especially when talking about gifting and awesome rules text: all other creatures are food.
As well, you missed forage and classes when looking at mechanics
Maha, Its Feathers Night sounds like something a Tamarian would say
I've been looking forward to Cameron's reaction to bloomburrow since the "looking to 2024" TTC
The art in this set is outstanding!
40:47 "Oh what was her name? She-"
"Voxy."
KATHLEEN NO!
Besides, everyone know that Voxy was the weasel
@@brendaneichler5244 Why do you think she said it, that's THE infamous cruelclaw, Voxy herself :p
I'm excited for your story recap, it was a fun one! Jace doesn't appear in the story other than Helga's visions. I think it"s implied that he has been there with Vraska and Loot, but is not currently there, and that Ral following Jace's trail was a bit of planeswalking misdirection.
They talk about wonderful flavor text later but didn't manager to discuss Brave-Kin Duo, the one that made me melt.
"Why are there pancakes in the silverware drawer?"
"Why is there silverware in the pancakes drawer?!"
Looking forward to all the Bloomburrow Planeswalker cosplays going forward
26:18 Ah yes, Galewind Moose, the newest villain in the Metal Gear series.
Offspring is more like Squad than Eternalize, since you make token copies in addition to the original creature. Also, the inspiration for Offspring, Offspring's Revenge from Ikoria, has you exile a red, white or black creature to make a 1/1 copy of a creature, which is one alternate Offspring cost like Cam was wanting.
For things like Long River's Pull, the whole spell has to resolve before priority goes to anyone. Them getting the card during the resolution of the spell means they can't cast anything while the spell is still resolving.
Duskmourn is going to be an enchantment heavy set.
Since Delirium is a mechanic in it, I bet there will be a lot of both Artifacts and Enchantments, since there's also the Artifact Toys.
If memory serves, Ward actually had alternative casting costs from the start. In Strixhaven, it was mostly WUG had mana ward costs, BR had paying life. AFR introduced discarding a card Ward costs for B, Bro adding sacrifices for BR, and it went from there.
According to Scryfall, Strixhaven only had Ward with the generic cost on Blue cards, with the life payment being on a Black and Black/White card. And the only Green Ward card was Adrix and Nev which were Simic and in the Commander product.
@@Mordalon I was going with what the wiki said. I knew they had at least one non-mana ward from the start, because I played waaaaaay too much Sedgemoor Witch during that set
@@Jay-yr9oi I was surprised how little Ward was in Strixhaven, probably because they went wild with it almost immediately after.
Season of Weaving is going into my Volo, Guide to Monsters deck. I already have token copies of everything, and I can get fresh ETBs off whatever I recast!
After Ral's visit to the plane, I think the return to Bloomburrow may end up being more Rats of NIHM than Watership Down
New "your opponent doesn't get to play Magic" combo: Maha, Its Feathers Night and Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite kills every creature that ETBs under your opponents' control without something else granting them at least two (2) toughness or that doesn't have a cast trigger that deals with at least one of them. Emrakul, the World Anew works, but even the other two Emrakuls don't, even though they have cast triggers, because as soon as they hit the board they die. Your opponent could probably get up to some crazy stuff on those turns...if they had any creatures.
You basically need to boardwipe because even if you get rid of one of them the other one is still a *problem.*
If they were to do a Watership Down Secret Lair I would so buy it. Love that movie and the book.
I think it's less artifacts and more so many enchantments. The classes for this set and the enchantment creatures for Duskmourn.
Crazy excited for this set and the PPR next Sunday!
So soon?! It's been much long than usual to wait for a Standard-legal set. :^)
Yeah, people who follow every single set seem to conflate them all together.
It’s not that, this is earlier than the set in this “release window” has released for years, usually it’s another month, early September. It used to be late-September.
Kathleen’s joke about the weasel being Voxy made me laugh out loud
Up to no good
Aw, no Redwall GeekOut? I was hoping this crew would be all over that 😬 ah well. Loving the look of this set; a little underwhelming compared to the past couple, but it’s a nice breath of fresh air
I want 'doom blade the child' to be as common as 'bolt the bird'.
OMG. I thought they were going with the "Don't go breaking my heart" joke with "Don't go breaking Maha" but it seems to have been genuinely unintentional hahaha
oh yeah, season of weaving goes into my queza draw-a-card-deck. looking forward to copying psychosis crawler and drawing three cards!
“Give him the fish!”
“Don’t give him the fish!”
“Ohhhhhhh!”
In terms of the Gift mechanic, either way I believe they can't counter the spell with the gifted card. Not a judge, but in my mind the interaction goes:
Cast spell > Promise the gift > Spell resolves > Opponent receives gift > Spell's effects resolve
So on Kitnap for example, they wouldn't be able to counter the spell with the card they draw but I believe they could respond if they draw a bounce/removal spell before tapping and gaining control of the creature.
To shorten it, they can't counter the spell but they can respond to the rest of the spell's effects.
Again, not a judge so take this with a grain of salt
The Promised Gift is given as part of the spell resolving. The reminder text, while not techincally rules text, does say how drawing the card happens before "the rest of its effects", meaning it's also part of the spell. They draw the card before their spell is countered, but they don't have priority to do anything during the resolution so even if they draw a counterspell they can't cast it.
Lightshell Duo are taking a selfie!
A pity that there probably won't be a Creature -- Mouse Demon Beast named "Infernal Spawner of Evil" with Offspring. ):
not in this set at least.
Offspring, a.k.a. Planned Kickerhood
Looking through the comments, I may be the only person yet to watch this video who a) felt the urge to get in the comments and b) is aware of 'The Church Mice' that Graham mentioned at the end.
Actually, I belive the "Long River" is a Gar look it up its horrifying
I saw Maha and immediately burst a blood vessel in joy. I don't even usually play monoblack but that name and art alone sent me into a coma
Warren warleader is going into every white deck I have
I predict a Secret Lair in which the members of Imagine Dragons are literally depicted as planeswalkers who've walked to Bloomburrow and renamed themselves Imagine Critters
I feel like I'd 2 and 3 the Season of Weaving, get a copy of your best Faerie in play that'll stick around after the bounce. An extra lord never hurt, for one.
in German the creature type Elk is not translated to "Elch" but to "Hirsch" which is a stag
no mention of squirrels or forage?
"Get Moosed" got me.
In Sweden we call moose "älg" 🙂
Warren Warleader seems pretty fly for a knight guy
'then do it again' is a great one
I don't know about not having a clean card in a while. We literally just had Horrific Assault in MH3 which is just prey upon with gain 3 life if you have an eldrazi. Seems even simpler than the gift thing.
If we're including punch spells, Hard-Hitting Question from Karlov Manor is even simpler.
Very disappointed to find out Kathleen hasn't (at time of recording) read the bloomburrow story because I love their story summary TTCs and have been looking forward to it ever since reading the first three chapters.
Very excited to find out what she's been working on instead though!
Hey Hey Do That Preview Thing
"some other form of engagement"
I was gonna call it downsized squad, but kicker with birth control is so much better
Fingers crossed for MtG x Brambly Hedge
Secrets of nhim
If we don't get a Secret of Nimh Secret Lair I will send a strongly worded letter to WoTC
Thats probably tjhe new legendary dragon in the background of the art for Shrikeforce yeah?
Also this set seems like its gonna be a great time to draft
Last order at the kingdom of cards, they were out of buttons :(
Look, all I'm saying is there better be Secret Lair Redwall
kicker but for hitting it raw
"Soup-like Homogonite"
I wonder if cam listens to Well There's Your Problem.
I heard a mention of soup-like homogenate, is Cameron a fan of WTYP podcast?👀
Are we ever going to get another nicknames episode?
Mice don't play with
2 many knives!
I love Cam!
Is there not going to be an OTJ nicknames episode?
So who else mainlined Elder Dragon Social Club in to Tap Tap Concede with plans of heading straight in to the Sub-a-thon?
Work got in the way.
15:00 I’ve only looked at the ward and “other creatures have toughness 1” bit, Maha has other stuff!?
It is an owl, would be weird if it didn't have flying.
No, no. It's kicker *without* birth control.
I wove wat wizard with thweshold
Some other form of engagement.
Why does lilypad village say “entered the battlefield under your control” if they’re switching to “enters”?
Presumably they didn’t like how “Enters under your control” sounded
Because it's not a trigger, and it would be grammatically incorrect as "enters".
At best they would change it to just "entered" (similar to the change to "dies" and "died"), but they are probably more focused on the change to the trigger that is a far more common occurrence (5905 cards). "Entered the battlefield" is only on 69 eternal legal cards, and they probably felt it doesn't take up too much space considering how often they use it. Who knows, they may change it later.
Additional reminder that when they make changes like this, it's for a specific set of words. There are many "mill" effects that are not called mill, because they use different wording.
Certainly not first
I feel like “enters” being shorthand for “enter the battlefield” may be questionable as future stuff is concerned. I’m sure it will be a simple line in the rules that just says “enters refers to cards entering the battlefield” but I can see a year or two from now a player saying “enters what zone?” Probably not a big deal but interesting to me nonetheless.
They already shortened "Shuffle your library" to just "Shuffle" back in Strixhaven, that's 3 years ago, and I haven't seen anyone make a fuss about that, and you could make the same argument of "what do I shuffle"?