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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ม.ค. 2020
- In this video I provide a comparison between the Sawyer Mini, Micro and Squeeze water filters. I time the flow rates of each, filling a 1 liter bottle with different methods, I offer a tip for back flushing the filters more easily and I share which filter I prefer.
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Thank you for not speeding up the water flow test in the final video. It saved me from buying a mini. It's one thing to see numbers, it's another thing to see it live. As a weekend warrior, I choose micro. A good compromise
@ZeberkoPoland Absolutely! I’m glad my video was helpful. The micro is a great compromise between weight and flow rate. Thanks for watching.
Kudos for actually keeping the whole filtering process in the final cut so you can actually see and hear what it's like to use each filter. Most videos have that cut out to please the algorythm.
Thank you AlagomSwede. Honesty and authenticity are important to me. I'll always put the viewer first, even if it ends up making the video a bit longer. I know if I were looking into these filters, the process is something I would be interested in. Appreciate you taking the time to watch the video, it means a lot.
Thanks a lot for the time you took in testing them. Much appreciated.
I just got a CNOC outdoors bag on Amazon as my dirty water container. Works awesome with the Sawyer.
Same. Works great
I'm sold! Just ordered the Sawyer Squeeze instead of micro thanks to your video! Thanks!
Happy to help Pius Lee. Enjoy!
Nice video Matt. I love my mini! I've never had a problem with the flow but I only go on 2 to 5 day trips.
Thanks Roadrunner Hikes! It's still a great filter, just not for me and some of the trips I do. I'm glad you found one that works for you and that hasn't given you any trouble on your trips. That's what's important.
Great video,...thank you for covering some of the details that users may not encounter until they are using their filter.
VABigRing Thanks for watching. I'm glad you found it informative. I thought it would be helpful to add those extra details in. It can suck if those situations happen out there.
Simple, concise and in depth. Perfect video, thank you
concise? this video could've been 5 minutes long, easy.
Thanks for running that comparison! Very helpful 😎
No problem orso735. Thanks for watching.
Very informative new to the water filtration have a mini but now I would really consider the upgrade thanks
Nice video Matt. You just picked up a new subscriber 👍🏻. I loved my Squeeze, but had a questionable freeze exposure and didn’t want to chance it so I grabbed a Mini as a replacement. I agree 100% with your assessment. The flow rate difference and the constant clogging of the mini made me go out and get a new Squeeze. Thanks for the vid!
Thanks for watching and for your sub David. I appreciate both. Sounds like you made the right call with the possible freeze. I would have done the same. Agreed. The mini is ok and works, but the Squeeze is worth the additional weight and cost.
I've the same concern with my micro squeeze, when it's freezing I just keep it in my fleece pocket, anytime even when sleeping...
love your honesty just subbed & liked purely for the reason i can trust
woja I33, Thanks for subbing, I greatly appreciate it. I strive to provide honest and authentic field tested feedback and look forward to continuing to share my experiences here on this channel.
Thanks for the testing! It is really helpfull 🙏
That sportcap hack is fantastic. I was going to reluctantly ditch the mini for a squeeze so I could also ditch the daft syringe. Now I don't have to. Thanks for saving me $$. Lesson learned: I need to play around with my kit more (and maybe drink more sports drinks!).
Ash Maybe, It helps keep things simple. Happy to hear this video was helpful in saving some cash. Some of those sports drinks can be awful, but very refreshing on a long hike. Luckily that sport cap can also be found on many grocery store water bottles. Enjoy!
Hi Mat. Over time I have learned to trust the facts that you present. There are some other popular TH-camrs that I do not fully trust.
For picking up water from shallow sources to pour into a bottle, I use the bottom half of a cheap, thin water bottle from a store (or a trash can). You can crush the thin plastic flat and then open it up and reuse it hundreds of times.
Thank you Jas. That means a lot to me. I can't speak for others, but I am personally proud to offer honest and authentic content based on my experiences on the trail and with the gear I discuss. I also purchase everything out of my own pocket and all opinions are my own. I don't accept sponsorships, gear or paid gear reviews as I like to provide trustworthy feedback. Everything in my videos are things that have piqued my interest. If I ever were to accept gear for a review it would have to be something that was relevant to my channel, something I would personally be interested in testing and I would disclose it in the video. My goal has always been to share my adventures and experiences with the viewer, and to help them with questions they ask or things I might have had questions on before I purchased something.
I know quite a few people who have used small water bottle bottoms too like a Poland Spring or something similar.That's just as great of a method as my Capri sun or cut up Sawyer pouch in this video. I'm glad you found something that works for you. Thanks for sharing and for watching.
I subscribed as soon as you said you wanted to test them without being misleading.
Thank you Will. Honesty is something that is very important to me. Hope you enjoy my channel and find it helpful.
new subscriber thanks for your work appreciate it
Welcome to the channel and thanks for subscribing Jose! I appreciate it. Glad you found the video helpful. Hope you have many great adventures this year.
Thanks for doing the comparison. Personally, I have moved away from using the dirty bottle in place of the bag, just because of how jacked up they get from squeezing them. Right now I use the evernew bags with a coupler to keep the bottle connected in line while filtering. (I’ve knocked over too many bottles while trying to just squirt the water in.)
roots No problem. Happy to! The bottles can get beat up a bit, but I've gotten 700-1,000 miles out of some of these bottles (or 1 to 2 months) before they need to be replaced. I haven't used Evernew bags yet, that might be something I'll check out in the future. Thanks for the info. I've found holding the bottle between my feet on the ground helps prevent any tipping. Thanks for watching.
@@matjobin Great video. I have a hard time justifying the over 2x time it takes using a dirty bottle instead of a dirty bag (other than the Sawyer bag you gave reasons for). Is the dirty bottle your preferred method over other more easily fillable bags?
@@neobello6736 Thanks! Since the time I
put this video out, l actually started using Platypus soft bottles with the Sawyer filter a couple years ago and have been very happy with them. On occasion, I may still use a different 28mm threaded bottle but the Platy bottles have become my go to. No issues with durability and they work really well. If something does happen to one, it’s nice to still have the option of a bottle I may pick up in town before getting back onto the trail.
Great throughput review on all 3; best review on the sawyers! Thanks for your hard work 😓
Thanks Jody! I'm glad you found it helpful!
Hi man, thanks so much for the filter info video, just got back from a 5 day canoe trip in Ontario using aquatabs and was jealous of my friends gravity bladder filter from platypus. On the search for a better filter system than just chemical tablets, saw that sawyer makes a 1 gallon gravity fed system as well... more for Basecamp setup of course not thru-hiking but I am interested to hear if you have tried that system as well? I am torn between the squeeze and the 1 gallon kit that comes with the micro filter (slow I know). Anyways thanks for the video and I appreciate any thoughts/experience you share about this. Cheers !
Hey great video first off.
Do you know if all three can hook up to a Camelback or do you need attachments?
Great video. Appreciate you taking the time to do the testing.
Have been frustrated with the mini. Was about to get a micro, but your review was helpful and will instead take the 1-2 oz penalty and go with the squeeze (and get more miles in instead of spending that time filtering).
Thanks Jason. No problem. I'm happy to help. Everyone will have their opinions, but I feel the weight penalty is worth it. Less frustration and fuss. More hydration and time for hiking. Enjoy the filter!
Hello Mat, thank you for the review! Exactly the details I was looking for... I was thinkingg about trying Micro and you helped me to decide to not try it:-)
To other hikers: I have tested BeFee too... and Squeeze is better even that BeFree! What I like on the BeFree - it is the soft sillicone bottle, which I'm using with the Squeeze now (the bottle is soft, so it is very easy to filter water with it).
If you go hiking in the freezing temperatures, I recommend Steripen Freedom (UV Light, built-in USB chargable battery inside).
Happy hiking!
Thanks for viewing Tom & Lenka! I've used the BeFree too for a couple of years and enjoyed it a lot! I put together a video a while back going over it and a couple other filters: th-cam.com/video/rEMDutI5S98/w-d-xo.html
After reaching the 1,000 liters and a fairly discolored bottle, I picked up another one and used it on a recent mini thru hike a couple months back (see around 7:25 min mark): th-cam.com/video/7b4pA4rCba0/w-d-xo.html
Now that we are in winter here, the filters are in storage and I'm back to AquaMira or boiling. Both the Squeeze and BeFree are great filters out there!
@@matjobin BeFree is not reliable for me anymore, I the "pipes" were damaged during cleaning in the water (several pipes were broken). If you have the soft bottle, you can actually disassemble
the blue filter and take one white part as a adapter for the Sawyer. (There you are able to see the adapter on this video th-cam.com/video/QttaPBYKLi4/w-d-xo.html)
Have you tried Steripen Freedom (the USB version)? It is really great - better than AquaMira and boiling:) We have used it for more than 6 000 km and it is great, it is fast, kills viruses, no water taste changes:-)
Happy hiking:)
Excellent video...are you in Vermont by chance...heading up there soon:) Thanks for your honest and informative video...Cheers!
Thanks! I am not but I am there often and have plans for some time there in the near future. The Long Trail continues to be one of my favorite hikes and will always hold a special place in my heart. Enjoy your time in VT. Thanks for watching!
Yeah, really good! (:
Maybe you have already discovered this, but if not; try the CNOC 70floz bags for dirty water collection. These even work great with any Sawyer filter as a gravity system.
Thanks Jack. I have. They are great bags for the Sawyer filters.
Hi Mat, thanks so much for the review. I was just about to buy the micro and have now decided to move to the Squeeze :) Can I assume the "sport Cap" is the actual cap from the Life Water bottle (as example) .. Thanks :)
Thanks for watching Michelle. You got it! The cap I am using in this video is a Lifewater bottle cap. Smartwater works too. I've also seen that Sawyer updated the Squeeze to now come with its own type of sport cap. So if you are picking one up you might see that one.
Thank you Mat great video. First time purchasing a water filter which was the Sawyer squeeze. So I chose the correct Sawyer filter gratefully. Can you share where you get the Sports cap I wasn't clear on that. I believe you are correct about the durability of the water bags that come with the kit. Is there an alternative water filling container bag that you prefer that would be more durable thanks again. I was wondering have you ever hiked Yosemite. I did years ago it was beautiful. Lots of mosquitoes in the spring. As a teenager much less prepared. I learned about gorp for the first time from the buddy that I hiked with. That was one of our main sources of food on the short trip. But we still had a blast Yosemite was magnificent.
@thesundancekid1974 Thanks for watching. I purchased the cap from a local grocery store. It's from the brand Lifewater and not anything too special. I believe the current Sawyer Squeeze filters now have a similar performing cap. For bags, I've been using 1L Platypus soft bottles with my Sawyer Squeeze. They've worked beautifully and are pretty durable. I use them as my main water bottles too. I have fond memories of hiking through Yosemite years ago on my JMT hike and my hike of the California section of the PCT. It is a beautiful area and holds a special place in my heart. The mosquitoes can definitely feel relentless certain times of the year. The start of my AT hike involved a lot of gorp, but that quickly changed =). Jumping ahead several years, it's nice to see so many options available off trail these days. I'm happy that you had a great and memorable experience in Yosemite.
I personaljy use the Cnoc 2 L water bag. After spending up to an hour to collect and filter 2 Smartwater bottles hands stay a lot warmer in colder wearher. Just watch out that the filter doesn't freeze, I developed a case of the hershey squirts (not fun) not realizing the filter froze.
Yeah, I just can't fathom using dirty bottles (taking over 2x longer and definitely more squeezing work) that a dirty bag.
Hey man cool video. I did the same with the mini and micro but i added the hydro blu versa flow and the cnoc water bags. 2 liters in 1:18 great fast filter. Can be used as a gravity if you have 2 cnoc bags. Cant be used with smart bottles tho. Check them out and keep up the great work
Bonjour So which one is the best ?
Do they all come inline capible
I'm new to this so thanks for the demonstration and comparison! One thing I noticed was I didn't think maybe it was a good idea to put your mouth on the 'dirty' water bottle opening to put air in it? Again, I know this was for demonstration purposes. Thanks!
@TheHoovercm Yes, though the video was for demonstration I have sometimes still had to blow air into a water bottle on trail. It might look like my mouth has contact with the bottle opening, but it is separated by my hand. I've never experienced any trouble out there if I need to do that. I'm also very careful and will use hand sanitizer after. Thanks for watching.
Any idea on why they even make the mini and the micro? Ive never understood having the two types when they are so similar. Is there any advantages to one over the other that I am missing?
Where did you get the sport cap?
Jay-Rus The mini and Squeeze used to be the originals. The Micro had only come out about a year or two ago in effort to have a similar flow rate of the Squeeze but with the weight of the mini. Some hikers still prefer the mini for various reasons.
The cap is just a sport cap that came with a bottle of Life water I bought in the grocery store. It fits and works perfectly on the filter. Sawyer has also updated the Squeeze recently to come with its own sport style cap.
Thanks for the comparison ! I see that the "SP2129 - Micro Squeeze Water Filtration System" nozzle is not the original one. Where did you buy it?
Morgane S. It's a sport cap I took off of a Lifewater bottle that I purchased at a grocery store. I believe Sawyer has now updated the cap for the Squeeze which should work in the same way I used my cap in the video.
Random q. How do you secure your inreach mini to your shoulder strap without it flapping around on the carabiner? I noticed yours looks pretty secure while walking but doesnt look like its strapped down?
DD FF You are correct. I don't do anything special to secure it to my pack. I just use the carabiner that the InReach came with. Never have any trouble with it.
Any thought to filling up your dirty water bottle and attaching the filter directly to the top of it? Then drink straight from the filter while attached? I'm wondering if that's a feasible way to go.
@nicolebuice213 That’s definitely another option. I’ve done that before without any trouble.
Nice comparison video. One point however...if you were actually doing this in the field and you put your lips around the bottle to blow it back into its shape you've just put contaminates directly into your mouth from the unfiltered side.
Thanks Eddy G. That is true, though in this video and when I am out in the field my lips never touch the bottle but my hand instead. I'm still able to get the bottle close to its original shape.
please excuse my ignorance, very first time learning about water filtration and hiking..what is the point of the bag at all? Does it just provide a "double filtration" ?
Brandy Priddy It’s just a way to collect water and feed it through the filter. I prefer a bag over a dirty water bottle, I do not want to carry around a giant empty water bottle all day.
It appears you tighten the filters too much, doing this can cause a hydro lock; air cannot get in. Notice, when you took the filter off the air is able to enter the bottle and inflate it.
Where do you get that cap? Do you have a link? Thank you
@jillyb4520 I don’t have a link unfortunately. Sorry. The sport cap came from a Lifewater bottle I purchased in a grocery store off trail. If those can’t be found, a Smartwater sport cap will work too. I know the newer Sawyer Squeeze also has an updated cap if you are looking to purchase the filter.
Is the black cap from a smart water bottle?
No it's from a Lifewater bottle which I purchased in the same area of the grocery store as Smartwater.
i would just put a band of black gorilla tape on the dirty water bottle. you can feel it in the dark too!
So, 3 years later.. Which filter are you currently using??
@dirtbagoutside I started using the Platypus Quickdraw when it was released back in 2021, and ended up using it that whole year and part of ‘22. I switched back to the original Sawyer Squeeze last summer and have been using it this entire year.
@matjobin gotcha. I have been using steripen ultra now for a few years. It decided last week to crap out when i testing it before my trip.. no display screen. I did have another one so I used it.. thankfully it happend at home before trip and not when i needed it most! Will probably go back to using my Befree or Sawyer Micro.. ugh.. anyway, thanks for response!
@@dirtbagoutside I’ve actually been using the Steripen Ultralight (2 oz rechargeable version) for the last few winters. I’ll be switching to it once the temps are consistently below freezing and will be cleaning/storing the Squeeze for the winter. That’s a bummer that one konked on you. Good thing it happened when it did like you said, and that you had another. I had used the BeFree for a few years after it was first released too. Overall I still prefer the Sawyer Squeeze, but the other filters are good options. You got it, happy to help!
I have some questions, starting with your tips & tricks using the Sawyer Squeeze. When you refer to obtaining a sport drink top, is the pull opening type used with the Smart Water bottles, one option, or can you recommend the actual type or product you’re referring to. I’m not real familiar with these tops you suggested. Thanks.
John Donahue It's just a standard sport cap and nothing crazy. I've had great luck finding them in big box grocery stores. Just make sure to look for Smartwater or Lifewater bottles with the sport cap (pull opening you mention, but the cap remains attached) and you'll be good to go. It's a good weight saver and less fuss.
You are counting minutes and I am thinking how important is the minutes in several days trekking???
Depending on the type of hiker the person is, minutes can be very important. They can add up quickly just like ounces and take away from time hiking. For others, it might not be such a big deal.
Can make a large comfort difference when very cold or if your one of the throughhikers who are on the move every minute possible.
If the flow of the squeeze and micro are reasonably similar. You must be filtering quite a lot of water to spend an hour longer per day filtering.
In my mind, even if the flow was half the speed it would be less than 10 mins extra for 5 litres.
How much do you drink man?
Coba bersihin Air kencing ? 😁 Try filter urine.
Way too much irrelevant chat.