Sawyer Mini VS Hydroblu Versa Flow - Which is the Better Water Filter?

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  • In this video I compare the Sawyer Mini with the Hydroblu Versa Flow water filters
    BarnYard Outdoors / barnyardoutdoors
    Gear Skeptic - Backcountry Water Treatment, Part 3: Microfiltration • Backcountry Water Trea...
    Hydroblue Versaflow hydroblu.com/v...
    Sawyer Mini www.sawyer.com...
    Size/Weight
    Hydroblue Weight - 2oz Length - 5.7” Diameter - 1.5”
    Sawyer Weight - 1.4oz Length - 5.35” Diameter - 1.35”
    Performance
    Hydroblue Removes 6 log 99.9999% of all bacteria and 3 log 99.99% of all protozoa
    Sawyer Removes 7 log (99.99999%) of all bacteria and 6 log (99.9999%) of all protozoa
    Features
    Hydroblue 0.1-micron hollow core fibers
    Just the filter (show enhanced package)
    Cap on both ends
    Can attach bottle to both ends
    Month indicator
    Filter Life: up to 100,000 gallons
    Sawyer 0.1-micron hollow core fibers
    Filter, straw, 1 bag, and syringe
    Can only attach a bottle on the input end
    Cap on one end only (other end will leak)
    Filter Life: up to 100,000 gallons
    Cost
    Hydroblue Versaflow $42.00 CAD ($59.99 CAD plus for my package)
    Sawyer Mini $40.00 CAD

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  • @aadmonk
    @aadmonk หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really enjoyed your review. The thing I find Interesting about the Hydroblu is the activated carbon accessory filter. It is supposed to remove chemicals, heavy metals, etc. Should I be forced to drink from a questionable water source, it seems that would be a big plus. I wish I could find more information on how to maintain the activated carbon filter. I own several Sawyer filters, and the Sawyer squeeze is by far my go to water filter. I also like the fact that Sawyer does great things as a company, such as giving free water filters and training on how to use them to people in developing countries.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I like Sawyer as well for the reasons you mention plus, they just keep on working. Best I could find about carbon filter is the occasional back-flush. Likely, it will just need to be replaced every so often. Thanks for commenting

  • @kellyjohnson3617
    @kellyjohnson3617 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yep, CNOC vecto is the bag to use with most water filter systems. Love mine. I like CNOC as a company. Great experience working with them. The newer vectos have a leash to keep you from losing the top seal. That’s a plus cuz untethered items have a way of falling out and disappearing. My preference in filters is the sawyer squeeze. But I love the idea of the carbon filter. Would like that option for all filters. I live in CA where I have to filter all my tap water. It’s safe to drink but tastes horrid. So I have a life straw bottle for everyday use at home cuz it’s easy. And brita carbon filters for all my other water usage for cooking and such.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right on. The leash for the cap and the closure were one of my recommendations when I reviewed the first Vecto. Thanks

  • @mike_outdoors4918
    @mike_outdoors4918 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have been a user of the Sawyer filters for a while now, first the mini, now the squeeze, I maintain them not just with back flushing, but vinegar too. Had a hard time trying to get a CNOC bag in the UK, so hopefully soon. Thanks for another balanced review Mark, take care 👍🙂

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have also heard it won't hurt to back flush the filter with a weak bleach mixture. Will need to look at that a bit more closely. Thanks for commenting

  • @slowhike
    @slowhike 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Along with Sawyer being a great filter, I really respect that they use a portion of the profits to help provide clean drinking water in various third world countries.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. I will buy more from them for that reason. Thanks for commenting

  • @Paigebaby
    @Paigebaby 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great, informative video! I love both filters but will go with the sawyer for this next trip. I so wish the sawyer squeeze came with dual caps.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have not confirmed but I have heard they are available now. Thanks for commenting

  • @GearSkeptic
    @GearSkeptic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Outstanding! I did not know about the Hydroblu carbon filter. Always love a good tip on new gear 😁
    I totally agree about the syringe providing better pressure for backflushing.
    I think others mentioned that Sawyer does make a dual-thread Mini. The output end’s threads are male, so it’s made for putting a cap on. They also make a coupler ring (female threads on both ends) so you could connect a bottle to the output side that way. It lets you filter directly into a bottle without spilling or allowing contaminated water in. Good for an unattended gravity setup.
    Thanks another good video!

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello and thanks for commenting. Looks like I need to add a new Sawyer to my collection

  • @BarnYardOutdoors
    @BarnYardOutdoors ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great and thorough review Mark! I use the CNoc bags with mine and find it makes a great gravity filter with two bags. I like a faster filter rate, but honestly have never been in a situation where I needed filtered water fast. Usually when I stop for water, I am also taking a break to sit, relax, have a snack and enjoy the scenery. Thanks for the shoutout.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree Chris. I am never in a rush for water. I usually filter while doing other chores. The shout-out is most deserved.

  • @davidmcnamara7489
    @davidmcnamara7489 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Mark. I did watch the Gear Skeptic’s video on filters that you recommended. It was fantastic. He put so much research into it. 🤓🎣🇦🇺

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      Right on. He deserves a lot of credit. Thanks for commenting

  • @alanwilliams5836
    @alanwilliams5836 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been on and off the fence so many times between these 2 filters, as well as many others. Being able to add the carbon element to the versa flow was a big thing to me, as I find the taste of the water much better, along with the bonus of removing the majority of viruses and heavy metals. My solution for having the same capability for the Sawyer Mini was to add a small Platypus Gravityworks Carbon Element directly in-line below the main filter using the small amount of hose that comes with it. Works great. BTW... Sawyer does make a dual threaded mini, but hard to find in stock as a separate filter right now. I know it's included in their one-gallon gravity setup as well.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also have the Platypus inline charcoal filter. I would think the HydroBlu carbon filter would screw onto the new Sawyer mini or Squeeze. Thanks

  • @nothing4915
    @nothing4915 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    FYI: I was looking for a replacement to my crappy LifeStraw, happy to say: the Sawyer Mini now comes in DUAL THREADED version!

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Might be time for me to buy a new one. Thanks for commenting

  • @Pedenzo
    @Pedenzo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When ever I buy a filter (I prefer the Squeeze for it's higher flow rate....) I purchase a Platypus Wide Mouth bag for dirty water, been around for a long time, they are very similar to the bag you showed. I get activated charcoal from the local pet store and make my own filter add on. Another great review, thank you!

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the Platypus system as well. I need to look at pet store charcoal. Sounds interesting. Thanks

  • @patfinn8859
    @patfinn8859 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am buying the sawyer ! Thanks

  • @maus9777
    @maus9777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sawyer now have a dual threaded mini on their page, apparently all sold out everywhere

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      Right on. I will check it out. I have so many filters now I am not sure I need a new one. But if I did, it would likely be the Squeeze. Thanks

  • @williamwood6616
    @williamwood6616 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is (threaded smaller diameter pex) something that I thought about incorporating into the filter line coming from my Katadyn water pump, and the idea came about from the troubleshooting finding purifier tablets

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting. I had not thought of threading PEX. Thanks for the idea

  • @hiramhaji7813
    @hiramhaji7813 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sawyer and a mill bank bag. Been using this system for 10 years now.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right on. I have made DIY Milbank bags but now I have a commercial one coming to to test and review. Thanks

    • @eyeofthetiger4184
      @eyeofthetiger4184 ปีที่แล้ว

      G'day mate, yep a Milbank is a very worthy carry. Just missed out on one of the last of originals back in the day. As far as I know a "Browns" bag is now the only option off the shelf, not cheap though. Cheers Duke.

  • @auroraborealisknives4019
    @auroraborealisknives4019 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent review thanks
    I have been using the Sawyer for a while now but never knew of the CNOC bags. Thanks for the tip

  • @moorejl57
    @moorejl57 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative review. I have the second generation Sawyer mini filter with threads at each end and the Vectra 2L collection bag, newer version. Both are great and I filter into Smart water bottles for clean storage. The carbon filter looks interesting, may have to check that out. Thanks for bringing up the importance of filtering water even from crystal clear sources, Giardia is no joke.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      You have a great system. I would think the HydroBlue carbon filter would thread onto the Sawyer. Thanks for commenting

  • @joelaut12
    @joelaut12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Mark hope you got through the hurricane unscathed, in our prayers.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      It was a very hard storm for many. We were fortunate where we live as the storm moved east a bit. We lost power for a day and there was considerable damage around the city but others had it much worse. Thanks for asking

  • @jacqueline7118
    @jacqueline7118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative and detailed review Mark! I have the first generation the CNOC bag and yes, if it is not on "just right" it will leak. I always test it away from my clean water collection container before filtering. I have the 1 gallon Sawyer bag (for gravity filling) and like this one better than the smaller ones, the opening for filling is larger. For the smaller ones I use one of the really crinkly water bottles and cut it so I can use it as a filling device. They are really light and easy to use to pour water into the smaller spout of some of the Sawyer bags. I am thinking I will be a Sawyer gal because I have two mini's and they will probably last me my life time. haha! I think the Hydroblu water bottle may make the difference for me. The Sawyer is almost twice the price. If I hike into a lake with my packraft for a day paddle, I like a bottle to just dip into the lake while on the paddle. I will say that I am not too concerned about water quality in the middle of a lake if there are no beavers calling it home but still do filter just in case. :) I saw your review about converting the Sawyer mini into a bottle filter but seem to have trouble finding a bottle that fits the tubing securely. If anyone knows of a brand that it does fit, please give me a shout. Thanks for sharing Mark! :) :)

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Jackie. Lots of thought and experience in your system. Can never go wrong with the Sawyer. Thanks for commenting

  • @garywood702
    @garywood702 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll have to check this filter out. I have two Sawyers and an offering from Platypus. Like you, I switched to the CNOC bags. One trip to the water source with my 3 liter bag and I'm able to top off all my water containers for those areas I might travel in with limited access to water. Not sure how the Platypus filter stacks up against either of the filters you mention but so far I haven't had any issues with it. I like the Platypus for ease of use. The outflow end has a hinged snap cap and the inflow end has a cap that threads on and off the filter. Back washing is easy if one uses a water bottle with the sports nozzle. Just push the nozzle into the outflow opening and give the bottle a squeeze. No syringe or tubing required. Give the filter several good shakes with both ends open and replace the caps and no issues with leaks.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      Right on. Platypus makes good kit. I have a few of their products but rarely use them. I need to get them out some more. Thanks for commenting

  • @garywheeler2055
    @garywheeler2055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great Canadian ambassador within the camping world 🇨🇦👍🇨🇦👍🇨🇦👍🇨🇦

  • @eyeofthetiger4184
    @eyeofthetiger4184 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    G'day Mark, well reviewed/compared mate. I always appreciate your mods too.
    I must say hallelujah !!! an inline carbon element as an accessory on the Hydroblu. To my knowledge Sawyer has never done that, until they do, I wont purchase a Sawyer because;
    a. depending on where I go, I cant guarantee no run off from upstream, (or from a lake or dam source), containing heavy metals and/or pesticides. And yep taste is a consideration too.
    b. a one stop shop no matter where I go, i.e. I don't want to change rigs for a particular location.
    Just capture everything possible always IMO, far simpler and no guesswork. Cheers Duke.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am thinking the HydroBlu carbon element should thread onto the newer Sawyer but I don't have the newer one to try it with. Thanks for commenting

  • @Sheltowee1775
    @Sheltowee1775 ปีที่แล้ว

    You do a great job and a true service to those of us trying to learn new skills.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate that! It is what I hope to do. Thanks for commenting

  • @neonsamurai1348
    @neonsamurai1348 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should look at the Aquamira Frontier MAX. It is a similar system, but you can fit it with 2 different cartridges, one is a water filter (green), the other is a water purifier (red)(it removes viruses in addition to the rest). It also cuts down on the plastic waste as you don't toss the whole filter assembly, just the filter.
    Only downside though, it does not come as a complete filtration system with bags and whatever. It is intended as a replacement for an existing system or as an inline filter.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, Gear Skeptic talked about this system in his video. I would like to try it out. Thanks for commenting

  • @brucematys6064
    @brucematys6064 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Mark, after watching this video and Gear Skeptic's, I am leaning more towards the Sawyer. Right now I have been using the Woods Waterstraw from CTC. It combines the fibers with charcoal, the flow rate is pretty good. It's not rated for as long a life, I think due to the fact of the charcoal, but it's $25 ca. I am definitely going to pick up a CNOC bag, I've seen them at SAIL. Cheers my friend.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      Right on. Can't go wrong with the Sawyer. Thanks for commenting

  • @sirdee9607
    @sirdee9607 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use the Waterdrop Sytem, its perfect for my use

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have not heard of this. Will check it out. Thanks

  • @terryw.milburn8565
    @terryw.milburn8565 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great S / S Comparison, I'm Liking That Versa Flow, Thanks Mark. ATB T God Bless

  • @charlesknight3204
    @charlesknight3204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mark … Excellent video, my friend!!! Very informative!!! I car camp, meaning I haul my water in and out. It would still be attractive to have a filter that not only removes protozoans and bacteria, but … with an activated charcoal attachment … would act to clean the water of chemical contaminants as well. Great job, Mark!!! God bless!!! Chuck Knight from Buffalo, Texas, USA. 🤠👨‍🌾✝️🙏🖖👍👋

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Chuck. I have found stagnant water to take on a taste even when it starts out clean. The carbon element will help with that as well. Thanks for commenting

    • @charlesknight3204
      @charlesknight3204 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MarkYoungBushcraft Mark …. Amen & amen!!! I discovered the same thing. Wishing you and family all things great and good; take care, be safe and God bless!!! Chuck. 👨‍🌾

  • @kennethwilson8633
    @kennethwilson8633 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice comparison. Have fun stay safe

  • @MichaelR58
    @MichaelR58 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good comparison video Mark , thanks for sharing , God bless !

  • @miriamhawkins7825
    @miriamhawkins7825 ปีที่แล้ว

    This summer I bought the Sawyer squeeze and I can put a water bottle on each end. It was a lot less than $42 at Walmart.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right on. Sawyer Squeeze is as goo as it gets. Thanks for commenting

  • @sirdee9607
    @sirdee9607 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thx for that VS

  • @neemancallender9092
    @neemancallender9092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me the Hydroblue Versaflow has threading both ends, therefore with the Sawyers double thread it can be used as an inline filter

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      Being able to put the filter inline is a huge benefit. Thanks

  • @patriciaribaric3409
    @patriciaribaric3409 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe in having a back up plan always, so having both filters is a great idea. I'm glad you again brought up those easy fill bags. If a bottle was screwed onto both ends how would the water flow without an air vent? When you hang the bag for gravity to work do you hang the bag open? I assume you have to.

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 ปีที่แล้ว

      My backup plan would be to boil the water.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      Bottle to bottle might create a pressure issue. but the bag collapses as it empties. I most often filter directly to my water bottle. Thanks

  • @daveymorgan909
    @daveymorgan909 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Mark.
    I hope you got through the storm ok.
    Sounds like it's the worst one for decades.
    If I know you you will be out volunteering your help☺️
    Maybe even your power has gone out.
    Take care Ok.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was a very hard storm for many. We were fortunate where we live as the storm moved east a bit. We lost power for a day and there was considerable damage around the city but others had it much worse. Thanks for asking

    • @daveymorgan909
      @daveymorgan909 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are very welcome Sir ☺️
      I am glad you are okay.
      Hopefully these storms don't get worse in the future.

  • @THENEWWRANGLER
    @THENEWWRANGLER ปีที่แล้ว +1

    iI use s standard lightweight dry bag to collect my dirty water, to that I have added a stop valve connector to the bottom of the bag. iI use a quick connect to attach a drinking tube water line from a bladder,. That line plugs into my sawyer mini. and then into my containers for drinking, a dyi gravity system , i made it based off the best features I found on a number of youtube videos. I have a video on my channel about it, it works great for larger parties, or while in camp. worth checking because the other premade gravity systems are very pricey,

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      I will check out your video. Thanks for commenting

  • @kerrypattinson4528
    @kerrypattinson4528 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish sawyer had a carbon filter attachment. I wonder if the versa flow carbon filter would screw onto the sawyer?

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I checked to be sure but unfortunately, they won't mate up. I am thinking it might work with the Sawyer Squeeze but I don't have one to check. Thanks for commenting

  • @markcummings6856
    @markcummings6856 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Neither is a winner compared to the Sawyer “Squeeze.”

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, the Squeeze is the best overall. Thanks

  • @northwind7409
    @northwind7409 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would think that, if you are using a bottle as a receiver on the Versa Flow, you would be advised to leave the screw connection a bit loose. If you tighten it right down, I'd expect that the air pressure would eventually build up in the bottle to the point that the flow is restricted and ultimately stops. That may be the reason that Sawyer left the threads off.
    Keep your head down, lad. We'll see you at the other end of the storm.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      I did survive Fiona with only power loss and a few trees down. Yes, pressure would be a problem bottle to bottle but Vecto bag to Vecto bag would work great. Thanks

  • @jimf1964
    @jimf1964 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Morning Mark. So two questions. Compared to our Membrane Solutions filter, would these be considered single person vs group, or would there be other reasons to use one over the other.
    The other is that I noticed that without an inline course filter like my hand powered ones have, they tend to block pretty annoyingly quickly with particulate matter floating in my waters. Have you got any ideas how to give it a quick pre filter? We had two people filling the bag, one pouring and the other holding a bandana, but that was cumbersome and I’m going out alone in a few weeks for a fall hunting trip, so it’ll not be possible, and too dark cold to be getting all wet.
    Thanks for any ideas.

    • @hiramhaji7813
      @hiramhaji7813 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mill bank bag is the best light weight pre-filter

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Jim. I have a Milbank bag on the way to test and review. It is about the best pre-filter concept for this type of use. Also working on a DIY idea for inline filters. Stay tuned my friend

  • @brentholladay3113
    @brentholladay3113 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think all Viruses over 100 nm should be okay, if the pore is .1 micron.

  • @user-gv7uj1wt6s
    @user-gv7uj1wt6s ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had 2 sawyer minis. Never used them. Sold them.
    Went for Katadyn and MSR filters.....

  • @margueritemitchell1829
    @margueritemitchell1829 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello from British Columbia Canada
    🇨🇦👋👍♥️🌲🌲🧘‍♀️🌲🌲🙂🐇🎩🌈☂️🍎🍏

  • @redsorgum
    @redsorgum ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you put them together, would call it a mini flow? 🫠 I have the Hydroblu filtered bottle, I haven’t used it yet, but I’ve seen it get some goood reviews.

    • @MarkYoungBushcraft
      @MarkYoungBushcraft  ปีที่แล้ว

      Something like that. The HydorBlu make good stuff for sure