The Haida Problem | Aggretsuko
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Aggretsuko season 5 was a lot better than Aggretsuko season 4 - but I can't help but feel sad about the lost opportunities for Haida and Restuko through the seasons. Specifically in the treatment of Haida's character as the series has gone on. What are your thoughts? Is there a haida problem?
00:00 Retsuko & Haida
02:46 Flanderization
05:10 Haida
07:28 Fumbled Romance
08:22 Despite this...
09:59 Conclusion
11:58 Outro - บันเทิง
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Just one note: this is the last season of Aggretsuko. The story is done.
Apart from that, I think your analysis is fair.
Did you not know S5 was the end?
I don't think kissing in the show is a thing because I never seen any of the characters kiss before so I guess Haida and Retsuko not kissing but living together is okay.
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I dislike that it could have shown us way more :(
After season 3 (just like everyone else), I wanted the show to get better, but the complete opposite happened.
With season 4 - the only interesting parts were 1) 99% of the dynamics (the 1% I found uninteresting *is* Haida & Retsuko) and 2) Himuro
With season 5 - I can’t think of anything great besides 1) introducing Haida’s family and 2) Shikabane (the purple skunk).
What’s even more infuriating with this being the final season is that not *every* character gets a proper sendoff.
- Fenneko once again gets the shaft
- Anai is severely sidelined (but in his case, it’s because of the untimely death of Billy Kametz)
- Tadano’s company never fully got off the ground
- Inui *never* got her happy ending!!! 😭💔 (She doesn’t even make a cameo this season)
- Retsuko promising Hyodo about a collab never went anywhere in favor of Retsuko running for politics
- no scene where Haida (reluctantly) meets up with Himuro (and maybe to some extent, Inui) to patch things up
- the truck driver who attempted to run over Haida was never found out
P.S. Shikabane *and* Haida’s mother deserve better!
personally I feel like Haida and Retsuko *should not* have gotten together, let alone rushed into getting married. He had far more chemistry with Fenneko because Fenneko actually KNEW Haida personally. Even up until they got married, it felt like Retsuko and Haida were just barely on the "buddy" level
I disagree, primarily because I have the best chemistry with Fenneko and WE should get married
@@HidinginPublic fenneko best girl, fr fr
Someone mentioned Fenneko x Tsunoda as a ship and I haven't been able to get it out of my mind. I think that's the best ship for her.
But FR, I genuinely like Haida and Fenneko as friends. I did think that it might be a case of "supporting my best buddy with his romance even though I love him too", but that seemed less and less likely as time went on. They would have been sweet, but I made my peace with it not happening.
I honestly can't think of any canon ship in this series that I loved, other than RetsuTadano, but I truly respect the decision for them to part ways as it was such a good lesson.
@@obara7366 Agree, I would've loved to see Tadano and Retsuko together, but they wanted vastly different things so I can agree it was a good decision to not stay. They still cared about each other, wished they interacted more after the break up though. But Haida and Retsuko I've always felt didn't work. It has always looked like they were meant to be end goal without proper work, and after season 4 and Haida's characterization, it just made it all worse. Next to them, Tadano and Haida worked better lmao
@@HidinginPublic 😭😭
oh how i miss season 1 characterization...
I feel like they held it together with a few hiccups and then s4 took a nosedive
I think all of us…
For me the strangest decision was to "retcon" that Haida's name isn't actually Haida, that's actually his family surname and it feels weird that Retsuko, and everyone close to him for that matter keeps calling him that instead of his actual name which isn't even mentioned.
That's true, it is odd. Since he specifically doesn't like or relate to his family either, and is told to 'lay low it's even more weird
Потому что японцы. Это на самом деле показывает, что они не слишком близки (или они неловки с друг другом), чтобы называть по имени.
That's not a retcon... Japanese people often refer to each other by their surnames if they don't know others in their family. You'll even see people who are in a relationship calling each other by their surnames. It's a very common thing in Japanese culture.
As for why his family calls him Haida, it's likely that he's been named after his father, or they just don't see him as an actual member of their family anymore.
Okay, yea, thats not cool.
@@kestune352 Yea, right, thats why they keep referring to Jiro by his firstname.
Right.
thank you for mentioning everyone’s obsession with retsuko! i get that she’s the main character, but the characters in the show treat her like she’s the main character of their lives as well, it’s just really unrealistic how much everyone loves her.
ps, there is a scene where they do mention haida mooching of off his family in like season 2/3 (i don’t remember, but it’s known that he’s from a wealthy family) i also think it was mentioned prior to season 5 that his dad was a politician, in that same scene.
Yeah it's in season 3, but framed more as fenneko being uncharitable to him rather than totally true. That's why I said they 'mentioned it' in an earlier season lol
This is a problem for so many long-running shows, especially those that don't seem to have been expected to go for as many seasons as they did.
Yeah I kinda wonder how much longer it will go for tbh
@@HidinginPublic This was the last season lol
There won't be any more than this, at least for now as the people working on this can always change their minds
they always planned on having five seasons they signed a contract for five seasons before the show even came out
Honestly the first few episodes, Haida was relatable. You stayed loyal and confident for someone else just to have it blow up in your face. Then you spend months unemployed and wounded, afraid to come back to work, and trying to distract yourself, only to notice you traded one cubicle for another.
Honestly, I was more annoyed by how horrible her "friends" have been towards her. People convincing her to go out with Haida rather than her making her own decisions. People convincing her to be more harsh on him, then being suddenly ok with them living together and her supporting him. Her old idol group FORCING HER TO GET INTO POLITICS AND BEING ON THE SIDE OF SOMEONE WHO LITERALLY HARASSED AND STALKED HER.
God, I HATED OTM Girls in this season. The Leopard guy says she can back out at any time, but would they have LET her? Hell no. Haida was the only one who was on board with her decisions until the end, except when he was nearly run over. At that point, it was too late to back out, and she had already shown so much potential that backing out would be a waste of their efforts.
I feel like Retsuko has learned nothing. People are always trying to convince her of things to do, whether it be right or wrong. She never makes any decisions for herself. The only time she did... was with supporting Haida.
And as much as he isn't the best character... I'm happy that she's happy, and that this is what SHE chose in the end. Not what anyone pressured her to do. Staying with him after he majorly messed up was her choice.
Right? I'm surprised no one has mentioned how horrible the OTM girls were using Retsuko in the latest season.
@Random d00d I was so. *Angry.* About how everyone except Retsuko kept treating the Lemur like he was totally justified after his first stunt.
Like, "Oh, he's not a stalker! He's just someone who wants to offer a business/political deal!" NO. HE I S A STALKER. HE BOUGHT HUNDREDS OF TICKETS TO SPEAK TO HER, TRACKED DOWN HER HOME AFTER BEING TOLD NO, FOLLOWED HER HOME, FOLLOWED HER EVERYWHERE, EVEN PLACES HE ISN'T AUTHORIZED, AND REFUSED TO TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER NO MATTER WHAT.
THAT IS HARASSMENT AND STALKING WTAF, WHY WOULD YOU SIDE WITH THAT. JUST BECAUSE HE DIDN'T TRY TO KILL HER DOESN'T MAKE HIM ANY BETTER THAN SEASON 3.
I'll bet it was the jaguar's fault though, always wanting to up their numbers. Knowing Monika, after their first encounter with the lemur, I doubt they'd be so eager to side with him. Even if he just wants to help Japan. The girls know better than that. But the jaguar is their boss. He makes the rules. Fuck that guy.
...Btw, going "she's a people pleaser, she'll do it anyway when pressured enough" is blatant manipulation and toxic on SO many levels. Jesus Christ.
Retsuko deserves better friends. Credit to Haida for one thing, actually listening to her about the psycho lemur man. And letting her do what SHE wants. Though that may be because, well, he's ALSO a people pleaser. Monika was certainly right about that, neither of them have a spine.
gacha hell and addiction is a real thing, and it's capable of taking well-established people out, especially well-established men. Seeing Haida struggling with that is crazy because I'm recently overcoming my own gacha addiction.
Cheering you on remotely! It's a difficult thing to overcome, so congratulations on doing the work!
@@noviceworks1503 Thanks! It's super tough, but it's been good so far. I've saved a ton of money, too! Edit: Hi-Fi Rush was the catalyst that helped break the gacha addiction.
Honestly, when you described Haida in the intro of the video, I did not recognize that person or description at all. That really hammered into me how much he has been flanderized. I was always aware of my discontent with the series as it wore on, and Haida has always been my fav, but putting it into perspective like this really highlights what they took from us.
Season 5 didn't feel like a definitive ending at all, but I saw sources and Netflix say that this was the final season. Feels like it got canceled.
You are reminding me of that the introduction of Tadano in season 2 was really where I started to feel a disconnect from the relatable elements of the show I liked in season 1. I later got exhausted with the show when season 3 made Haida into a creep indistinguishable from the stalker fan and abruptly shelved any hope for a satisfying resolution for the sake of resetting the status quo again and keeping this shambling zombie of a show and will they won't they ship going. It sounds like it might have been a good thing I jumped when I did...
Best development imo is the three now body guards of OTM or just manaka’s bodyguards 😂 went from creepy overobsessed underground idol fans into buff guards protecting their oshi
You make some really good points! Great video.
Yeah, I feel like Retsuko was a great character back when she wasn't "special" - just a normal young accountant with no extraordinary talents (perhaps except for her death metal voice), no special cult of personality, definitely no magical abilities... Now that she can do anything and everyone suddenly seems to be super drawn to her and blown away by her, it kinda loses me.
And here's what especially bothers me: one of the main parts of Retsuko's arc was that she had to learn to stand up for herself and be more proactive instead of always just doing what she's told, letting everyone walk all over her and bottling up her frustration - or at least that was my impression. But everything that happened throughout the show, her becoming an idol, the whole election plot - everything that the show seems to celebrate as her finally doing just that - only happened because she got roped into it by other people and just couldn't bring herself to say no! She was effectively forced into the whole idol thing, she didn't want to run in the election at all, she had zero interest in politics, but she was too much of a pushover and allowed herself be persuaded... Maybe she ended up getting something out of it, finding her voice or whatever, but that still doesn't change the fact that she didn't do ANYTHING on her own, she never said "no" to anyone in order to do it her own way, she just went along with everything, just like she did at the start... and that's supposed to be her big character evolution?? It frustrates me so much. I kept waiting for her to stand up to that asshole who basically stalked her and tried everything to make her run for his political party (that she knew nothing about and had no connection nor interest in!), I was hoping she would eventually tell him off, finally say no to something and begin to pave her own way instead... but alas!
That aside lol, I actually kinda liked the final season. I mean, I hated the election subplot, but other than that... Definitely a huge improvement from season 4!
Well, now that's making it sound like I was expecting some big individualistic resolution - that's not the case. I'm well aware of the cultural differences. But it seems so strange how it's all framed in the context... Like her getting roped and forced into things she didn't want to take any part in was some big accomplishment on her part? She just let herself become a political puppet...! Always working for somebody else's benefit or goals... Where are her own goals or beliefs?? Know what I mean?
@@efoxkitsune9493 indeed
Holy shit I haven't watched aggretsuko since season 1 but it really does seem like that show has gone of the rails and lost its original charm. Aggretsuko was someone relatable, someone who struggled with everyday things.
I wish they would have taken a route for early season 5 where haida really had to deal with the struggle of being poor/homeless and what he had to do to get out of that situation. Like having him spend more screen time at the construction site to exemplify his trait of being a hard worker. It'd also be a good way to show the misery of being homeless and how hard it is to climb out of that.
Honestly I feel like if they had just ditched the entire political campaign part of the season and dedicated it to Retsuko and Haida learning to build a solid relationship, despite their lack of self confidence, this would’ve been the one of the best seasons. It tackled some harsh but much needed topics like the importance of a support system when you’re down (and an example of what happens when you don’t have one via Shikabane). If it had just focused the second half on the two of them finding a good pace and maybe spent more than 5 seconds on them getting MARRIED, then it would’ve been solid.
I agree with everything that you mentioned in your video! Retsuko was meant to be the everyday office worker with everyday troubles, not what she became in later seasons. As one of the characters mentioned in the show, will Retsuko end up being an astronaut next? I mean probably with the way the show is going haha!
It sucks that this is the final season. I wanted to see more of Retsuko and Haida struggling with everyday couple stuff. Show a bit more conflict of them now living together, sharing their habits of what they do at home. Why was their marriage a "blink and you miss it" moment? That was something she was aiming for since season 1!! I'm honestly surprised that they didn't have Haida fight in the election instead of Retsuko. I mean, he has more stake in it since it's against his family. Why did Retsuko do it? Cuz OTM Girls threw her on stage and Retsuko doesn't know how to say "no"..... Not a fan of that.
Overall, this season was better than last but sadly still had some letdowns. I still love this show and still go back to it
Definitely think I only liked S5 BECAUSE it was such a step up from S4.
Also, HUGE congratulations on your weight loss! It's a slow process that takes work and dedication, so great job!
Let's be honest, Haida and Retsuko's relationship was a fucking mess thanks to how they treated their relationship in Season 4 and 5. It would have made more sense for Haida and Fenneko to be endgame considering 1. They had more chemistry 2. Fenneko very clearly had a thing for him 3. It would have been a perfect punchline for Fenneko's whole hypocrisy joke considering all the shit she talked about love and marriage for her to fall for and get married to Haida. 4. They balance each other out real well and Fenneko wouldn't have been a bitch to Haida about his family.
Their relationship is almost as bad as Marinette and Adrein from Miraculous ladybug. When I start comparing something to Miraculous something has gone terribly wrong.
@@bearerofbadnews1375 Oh my God, it really is and yeah that's how you know Aggretsuko went to shit indeed.
@@bearerofbadnews1375 Eh, when they are actually in a relationship Haida and Retzuko really are not toxic at all. Sure the journey to their destination felt rushed, flawed and most people may want Haida to be with someone else, but as a couple in this season they do nothing but try to build eachother up. My issue with the season is once again the turn away from the engaging slice of life issues and shift to more wacky shenanigans. The OTM girls were horrible this season, and seeing Retsuko get forced into something she doesn't want to do to the point of crying made me feel bad. In this moment it actually made me like HaidaXRetsuko more because of how supportive and by Retsukos side Haida was.
@@bearerofbadnews1375let’s complete the trinity with Star & Marco
Sadly season 5 is the last (or it is so far) since Netflix didn't renew it for a 6th.
I liked it, but I feel like the second half was a bit rushed on some plot points, like how Retsuko and Haida's getting married was reduced to what felt like 5 seconds.
The getting married stuff was WAAAAAAAY too rushed
It looks like Aggretsuko is over, there's not going to be any more? It sucks to leave it like this.
Mfw no more Retsuko date night 😔
Maybe we'll get an OVA special or something? Idk
@@HidinginPublic I really hope so.
The character assassination of Haida really made me not want to finish this season, I already wasn’t fond of season 3. So having the start of 5, having him come off as incompetent really killed my mood going forward.
As an office wagie that loved the first seasons, I have no idea why I bother watching this show anymore. It's like an alien, unrecognisable series
It has transmographied into an extremely different form
That clip from 500 Days of Summer has been living rent free in my head ever since I watched it years ago
Goated movie tbh
I wish they delved into Haida's childhood more. What was he like as a kid? Did his father try to push him to become a politician like he did with Jiro? Are issues in his childhood directly connected to why he's so passive when it comes to love (a crush... for 5 years... be for real)? The Haida family was one of the most interesting parts of this season, and I wish they would've delved into that more.
Show felt like propaganda telling young people to settle down together as a couple of office drones. Idk if that's relatable to people but weird mixed with the epic plots
It was a weird mixed messaging for sure
Maybe in Japan lmao because there are more senior citizens there than kids.
It's especially jarring that he tried to humanize and make the audience like the chauvinist boss, too. It's really messed up.
@@Carossmo Doesn't make it any less disgusting.
@@WobblesandBean Ouch. The sad part is that they had to get an ultra corrupt and evil (but slightly less chauvinistic) New CEO to do this.
haida was really cool at the beggining, then i didn't watch the 4th season and i'm taking my time to continue it but at least now i know what to expect! also, you're coming to POLAND?????? that's so unexpected!! waaaaaaaah!
Crazzzyyyyy! We should meet up!
@@HidinginPublic we should!!!!!!
It's just really sad that it was the final season and Retsuko was barely a main character in it
Yeah, since when did it turn into The Haida Shoe?
Wasnt season 5 the final season? Felt kinda strange how you referred to the shows future throughout the video.
Lets be honest
There probably will be more because the show makes money and big corporations like money
@sharkenjoyer sure, corporation and money, but i will honestly perform a blood sacrifice and give up a vital organ to get just one more season of Aggretsuko, this season's ending felt incomplete, and didn't tie up any loose ends
@@sharkenjoyer I hope not this felt like the anime equivalent to Miraculous Ladybug I don’t want this to continue and further butcher Haida and Retsuko.
@@bearerofbadnews1375 let's hope not
I couldn't wait to hear your thoughts on this new season!! thank you!!
Here it is! Hope they are understandable
Congrats on 40 pounds!! You look great👍🏽 Totally agree I remember watching season 4 and waiting the whole time for an explanation on the hyper beam lol, love your content always click when i see a new video.
You know what I really apreciate about your videos? The thumbnails. they are always so fukin good dude.
Even though I don't watch nearly any of the anime you talk about I always love the videos you make.
I don't feel that 'mooching' is the right word to use for Haida? If you mean the fact alone that that his father was paying for the apartment, it should still be taken into account that before the end of season 4, Haida had been working all that time, not exactly doing nothing. I think it should be noted that Retsuko's parents also pay for her apartment, as implied by her mother making a spare key for herself. I've heard it's not uncommon for parents in Japan to do this for their kids.
I do think that with this fact, it still isn't great to be unemployed for so long (not even trying) without your parents' knowledge while they're paying somewhere for you to live. In Haida's case, I guess his father didn't actually care whether or not he was working as long as he wasn't causing a scandal. So hmm, it's complicated, especially when your family is literally pressuring you into accepting money (which in the end, Haida refused).
I actually did sympathize for Haida's gaming addiction because it was clear that burnout had gotten to him, and I can understand him not wanting to give up a moment where his life for once isn't revolved around work. We are introduced to Shikabane this season who feels similarly to Haida but has completely given up the chance at a stable life because work in Japan is so demanding.
I don't just feel Haida was being lazy and selfish. When he gets kicked out of his apartment, he can't even stand the thought of burdening Retsuko by asking her for help, and he nearly endangers himself in doing so before Shikabane helps him out. I think he messed up, for sure, but I understood how he got there. The biggest difference between Haida and Shikabane is that Haida actually had people he could rely on. Just because someone is more fortunate doesn't mean they are mooching.
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I really enjoyed this video! I just finished season 5 over the weekend and I enjoyed it soooo much compared to season 4. Although I feel like seasons 1-3 were top tier, I still have hope for the show if they continue on! (Sidenote: hearing you feel happy with your appearance made me smile! I hope you always feel comfortable in your skin!)
Two Hiding videos in the same day!! 🥳
Insane!
Was waiting for your review of season 5 I had alot of mixed feelings. Sucks I missed this upload.
I got disappointed by that rushed marriage ending. In real life that level of chemistry (not even friends, let alone lovers) never works out.
They should've changed Haida's whole personality in order for Retsuko to fall for him. They haven't
So this ending kinda makes no sense
This character had much more chemistry with Fenneco and that dog lady lol
Thank you I was waiting for this
Glad you got onto season 5! I'm sad that it's the final season, because I'm going to miss the videos you make on this show, but I think they finished it on a good note. They did just kinda tack on another flaw onto Haida, which I didn't love, but at least they resolved that pretty quick. And I feel happy that Haida was able to kind of go against his family and fight for what he believed in by the end, instead of just being pushed around by his brother and father. Overall though season 5 was such an improvement from season 4, considering I also was hesitant to watch it. I'm glad I did though.
Aggretsuko should've ended w. S3.
This series shows how NETFLIX can stretch out a series until it's SHIT.
And unfortunately Netflix also cancells tons of things before giving them a chance. The big mouth vs bone situation. Worst of both worlds
Congrats on the weight loss man! Ive lost 40 myself over the last 6 months And I wanna lose atleast another 20 to get to my Goal Weight. Keep at it you look great!
Thanks! Best luck to you in keeping it up as well! I got 2 more till soft goal to switch to weights and 17 more to hard goal
Good analysis and looking good! Have fun in Poland.
Thanks! I hope to!
Retsuko was an idio† to leave Tadano, and Haida was an idio† to get with her.
Also, I hate how this show went from a relatable story about a girl trying to make it in a sexist, soul-crushing corporate world, to....a total Mary Sue that everyone adores and fawns over, she's a metal pop idol, now she's dating a billionaire, now she's an enormously successful streamer, and now she's a politician. Wat.
No I think she was smart to leave Tadano. Ultimately they wanted different things and neither one was willing to compromise. At that point you end it.
This is pretty sad to see. It kind of feels like the kind of thing that happens to a lot of American cartoons or TV shows with too many seasons. I don't really think I want to watch this show anymore. At least, if I do, I'll probably stop at season 3. Anyway, this video was fantastic.
Wow!! Congrats on the weight loss!! Looking awesome
Thanks!
I really miss how Retsuko, despite doing her best, still didn’t live up to her own expectations (pushed on her by familial, societal and workplace expectations and standards). I miss her learning to enjoy new things and finding out what she wants out of life… It was extremely relatable to me as a 23 year old woman. Now… it’s just bizarre.
I also don’t like Haida x Retsuko. I like Tadano x Retsuko more but I still think a more grounded but passionate match would have been better. The biggest appeal was always Retsuko navigating the frustrations of modern life as a young woman. Would have loved to see her meet her match and go thru the struggles of domestic bliss.
great commentary and you look great too!
Thanks!
Sounds like it became more wish fulfillment further on
Yeah I'd say so
It’s funny in that in Season One, I had wanted them to get together, and then as the seasons go on, it actually happens and now it’s a “Be careful what you wish for” deal since now that their together, I feel like it’s a cop out.
If it had ended at Season Three with Haida getting with Inui or Fenneko, I would’ve been satisfied.
I think this is a good analysis of Season 5! I did find myself invested in the plot in Season 5, but the more I think about it, the show did kind of go off the rails with the characters doing things past season 3 where the show still had some relatable messages. I think it was an interesting way to leave off the show, but I do feel like they could have taken more time to develop or fix up Haida’s character or so. I still enjoyed watching till the end, and seeing Shikabane’s little arc was very nice.
For the HR relationship i have a point to say showing it's actualy a realy good point for both of them : the fact that Retsuko is here the leader in the relationship.
Other Retsuko lovers were definetly the leaders, not caring for Retsuko as much as they care for them to live with her. Each time the choice they give her is to abandon what she is, what she do, to become dependent of them. They, andmost of the people, threat her as "weak minded fool who need to be directed by a stronger person in her couple life".
But for Haida, it's different. Retsuko is strong even if she dont show it or know it. He realised this hided strenght of her destroyed by toxic people abusing her. Even Fenneko is terribly negative with her, saying her weakness constantly. But Haida go in total opposite. He dont try to control her but to push her to her best and she do same with him. She is the leader of their couple and it male her evolve as well.
And that's what is interesting in their couple. They push each other to do better and actualy achieve greatness together. They are not "the best couple" by people standart but they have a good functioning.
Also congratulations on the weight loss! 🎉
Thanks!
They say this is the final season, but i hope this isn't the end of the story. For some reason, i think that it needs a more proper closure.
AYYYY NICE WEIGHT LOSS DUDE THAT'S AWESOME! also great video
Thanks on both fronts! Down 45lbs!
I really loved season 1 when it first aired, and could not wait for season 2. When I met my girfriend, this was one of the first shows i watched with her. For some reason Season 3 didn't hook me as much and i lost interest, with the same repetitive nature. Eventually season 4 came out and we did not like the arc in which Haida and Retsuko were going and dropped it. I still think of the early seasons fondly and am sad i no longer follow the show and did not expect it to continue airing for this long.
You look good man
the main reason i didn't watch season 3 onwards was cuz of what was going on with haida and he was my fave chara (as well as my husband >_>), so hearing what's happened to him really... makes me not want to pick the series back up tbh. i just want to snatch him out of the show like i'm playing a claw machine game and save him from the narrative.
I’m happy for you
Thanks!
i still don't understand why they are a couple, but that was predictable from s1 so i kinda settled with that idea
Is it bad i still totally love Haida because i feel like hes self aware and wants to try to do better
I still think they should have gone with my crack ship of Haida x Tadano, Haida does admire being a go getter like that, and Tadano could both annoy him yet support him. It just sounds like an interesting dynamic
" I'm running for public office....???
*i can't even keep my housplants alive!!!!!* "
By this point, Retsuko herself is asking the writers wtf is going on
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I haven't seen 5 yet, but I remember both me and my wife being like "...what? thats it?" when they got together in s4. It felt wrong. Fake. Flat.
Basically the entire show had built up to it, and you had like 30 seconds of them being a couple before the next problem plot began (and honestly? completely ruined Haida's character for me).
Yeah, I keep telling people that it just felt out of nowhere and not exactly build up. But they kept making me seem like I'm the crazy person.
Is it recommended to skip season 4?
waiting for the aggretsuko farming arc next season
Congratulations on the weight loss 👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks!
i like this
I thought season 5 was the series finale?
Wow. I only watched season 1 and enjoyed how mundane it was. Didn't knew it became that bad in later seasons, and don't feel like watching any of it.
3:54 my theory is that retsuko in her rage form threw a chair at them as it focus’s on a chair mid fall (I know it’s the new ceo forgot his name but still), in her rage throwing the chair as hard as she could knocking Haida into the desk and into the ceo and out the window, but it is portrayed as a blast for dramatic effect, that’s my theory on it
Poland huh, very specific 😅 I imagine there's a specific reason
Pierogi!
Dang you lost 40 lbs?- That's amazing, congrats! 😁😁
isn't s5 the final season?
nvm someone already asked that lol
OMG, why are you going to Poland? I live in this country, so if you have more info about where and when specifically you will go, let me know :D
Aggretsuko content hits different
Rrrrrr I'm angry rrrr rage
@@HidinginPublic Rrrrr damn you Haida damn you rrrrrr
Isn't season 5 the final season?
Guess so
Did you not know S5 was the end?
I thought season 5 was supposed to be the last one?
I suppose so but wow that didn't feel like a finale. Maybe there'll be a special/OVA?
@@HidinginPublic i hope so because like you said it didn't feel like a series finale at all, but rn we don't know
I was tired of being pay off blue balled. It was so fucking infuriating.They were all so close but no.
Everytime they DID do a pay off the had to rush through it for some reason. Big bummer
In the 1st season I was shipping Retsuko and Haida, they seemed to be such a cute couple, but after season 4 I couldn’t recognize Haida anymore. He’s not the guy he used to be, he’s so problematic.
And now that they are officially together, they still seem to be buddies who live together. I’m a western girl, now I live in Japan, and what I can say is…maybe we watch this show with our western lens, but those characters were inspired in the real japanese citizens. Haida and Retsuko act like a japanese couple. They are cold like that, they don’t say “I love you”, they don’t hug, they don’t hold hands. Despite that, I really would like to see them taking care for each other more. Man, it’s so unsatisfactory, every time that Retsuko cried I just wished that Haida would hold her and tell her everything is going to be okay, that he’s there for her…but we never get anything… this kind of affection is better shown in anime, but Aggresive Retsuko is more “realistic” about the japanese people behavior.
I thought it was fine if not a little rushed as for Haida he was just doing what he did in the other seasons his problem is that he desires to be needed because retsuko couldn't come to terms with her love for him a problem that she also gets over could have used a season in between this but it ended well enough
Unfortunately, the writing for the show has become pretty garbage. After the heist in the previous season, I don't know if I'll continue the series.
Bruh I liked it
I just don’t buy them as a couple.
You have that’s an Alpha overflowing with testosterone, and the other one’s Haida.
the way you describe Retsuko makes her sound almost like a mary sue.
They shouldn't have gotten together. The writers seemed hellbent on forcing them together too, and it really shows.
Past Season 3, Retsuko got benched in HER OWN SHOW. She became a maid for everyone's emotional issues, and I hated it. She deserved way better.
Haida❤ is like me❤
as mentioned in the video, the biggest flop for me was the fumbled relationship...hard not to feel disappointed when Retsuko and Haida's "will they/won't they" dynamic is a significant part of the show overall, only for the early part of their relationship, which i think could have been the most interesting development, was sort of skipped over in that awkward surreal mini montage. I think it could have been a more interesting take for Haida's crush to remain unrequited and to develop the friendship by itself instead
Anggretsuko peaked at Season 3 then it took a dive and never rise.
I started to lost interest during season 3, that she started working with the underground idols. Idk it just feel less hyped when she got popular on the internet with her singing. I mean, she's hiding a side of her making it more adrenaline.
Ngl I think she's better with Tadano.
Congrats on the weight loss
He’s taking the wok to poland!!!
Please help me take the wok!
I love the character of Haida, and I think the fans go too hard on him
I don't think he felt from grace, nor that he is a simp, or a bad character. Haida is the perfect contrast to Retsuko, and I am glad they got together, and had a whole season as a couple
Anyway I am claiming Tadano
I mean... I guess it _did_ feel self aware this time, but I feel like that doesn't really makes it any better.
Season 5 wasn't much better than season 4 imo, the first 8 episodes felt better for sure (even though Haida was being a different character than he used to be) but in the last 2 episodes it suddenly tried to rush this whole gigantic nonsensical subplot that should have received its own season instead, just like the whole new CEO + Haida boss subplot in season 4
Instead of cutting content like many people suggest online, I feel like it would have been better to split season 4 and 5 into 2 other seasons to flesh things out and make stuff happen for reasons that actually make sense, as I like some of the ideas from these seasons (included the relationship between Haida and Retsuko!) but feel like they simply failed in their execution. I wouldn't want the show to have ended on season 3 like others do, as there's plenty of plot points, characters and other stuff that could be expanded upon. Seasons 4 and 5 had a lot of potential to do exactly that, but failed (aside from expanding upon Ton's character imo). I'm sad Aggretsuko ended not because it, well... ended, but because of the nonsensical, underwhelming finale that leaves many plot points unanswered.
But these are just my thoughts of course. I know there are lots of different opinions on this online.
Aggretsuko has been confirmed to be over. This was the final season.
We still might get a ova special or smth but yeah, kind of an unclimactic note to end on
o haida está bem
I can't believe no-one came up with the idea for Haida and Retsuko to be dating at the start of the series, or at least to have them meet up and start dating in the first episode and stay together from then on. It would make the series a whole less messed up, by removing that cliched and annoying "will-they-won't-they" subplot. Not to mention it would prevent all that random Haida hate, and everyone saying that "(insert random character here) would have been a better match for Haida". Because frankly, I'm sick of all that! I mean, if Rarecho/Yeti/whoever's in charge really wanted them to be a official couple - for merchandising purposes and all that - they should have put them together straight away.
And of course, much like her death metal hobby, Retsuko should keep this love affair hidden from her mom. Not because it's the right thing to do, but A: because it's what she would do - let's be real here, and B: FOR THE PLOT.