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Horror is blowing up right now. SIKCC, Alien, Nice House on the Lake, Stray Dogs etc.
I love this podcast! I learn and I feel like I am chilling with the Homies!
"Like every day!"
I agree. Glad to have more imaginary friends to hang out with :)
@@gmoneyrocks1515 right really storyteller day f6
Proof there are great people in this community.🙏🏻Honesty is the only way to go. If you're not financially stable your word is really all you have your word should have some value. The more honest you are the better business person you will be. The more business you will have.
I thought Tom was overly goofy at first but I stuck around anyhow and now this is probably my fav comic channel. I like the long episodes, the interviews, and the mix of old and new school comics.
He's still goofy! Lol!🤣🤣
Comic Tom and Jeff I just got back into the hobby a year ago. Had my entire comic collection lost in the CA fires in 2016, in that collection I lost ASM 1. The insurance company did not except any of my comic claims because no receipts or grades! ASM is out of reach for me now 😭. So I was able to get the next best thing!
Btw every book I own is slabed and insured correct!
Please reply to make me feel better!
I am the proud owner of fantastic four 13 which has the first add for ASM 1!
Do you think adds for books inside books brings up their value?
Great show much love,
Jason
Aww dude that sucks!!! I’m your neighbor to the north and am in prime fire area
Think about losing all my books to a fire
Mm I can’t imagine what that must feel like tho
Biggest recent regret. 6 years ago I had a chance to buy Daredevil #1 8.0 for 3K but no I had to get into a relationship and they wanted to go to Scotland 🏴. Long story short Daredevil would still be with me today 😂 😭😂
First of all, I love your videos. The information that you and your friends provide is awesome and I like the enthusiasm and positivity that you bring. You asked for stories of seller regret. My biggest is that I owned 2 copies of New Mutants 98 in 9.8. One had white pages. I bought them in anticipation of a movie. It wasn't coming and it wasn't coming and I gave up. I sold both for around what I paid for them which was around $300 each. If only I had at least kept one.
3rd comment, I know... Anyway. Yeah, DC Silver keys are WAAAAY undervalued. Hawkman #4 in a 9.6 should easily be a $20k+ comic, period. Holy shit, there are only 15, yes 15 total, 9.8s and 9.6s on the CGC census, and 3 on CBCS. ALL Silver and Bronze DC keys, and even a lot of Golden Age keys, are almost criminally underappreciated and ignored. There should be NO WAY I could buy a Batman #20 (1944), in a CGC 9.2, for LESS than a 9.8 UF4 Djurdjevic variant, but it's true (I did it a month ago). It's so absurd it makes my head hurt.
I agree, I picked up a lot of dc keys lately.
Are the DC comics undervalued or are the Marvel ones over valued?
@@robertt9342 Both, quite frankly.
Love the podcast guys, I toss it on and split my time between watching and doing things around the house. Awesome discussions and information.
Very much enjoying these podcast the past few weeks.
Super chill vibe as always. :) On a comic book storage note, it would be cool to see a video showcasing your favorite method to bag and board comics. For example, what do you recommend for modern comics when it comes to Mylar? Would you recommend BCW 7 1/4" 2 Mil Silver Mylar to go with BCW 7" backing boards, or...BCW 7" Current Age Mylar to go with BCW Modern 6 x 5/8" boards?
Love the textures on the Johnny Desjardins covers, his paints got a chunkiness to them where I just want to touch them. Love his Haha clown covers and Out of Body.
I just ordered the virgin cover he did for Out of Body 1. When I saw it I just had to have it
@@gmoneyrocks1515 yeah the colors and texture on that painting are amazing.
@@Sal_comics I ordered it off of outer limits boro for $28.99 and they have an option for a toploader for a couple dollars.
Awesome ComicTom thanks for putting my comment on the podcast.
Seller regret has to be selling a Uncanny X-men 266 to half price books. The girlfriend and I were living in a small studio and had to free up some space. Little did we know that our copy of Uncanny X-Men 266 was in the short box we sold. Let’s just say we got next to nothing for it. Every time we see that comic on the wall at a LCS, we just want to cry!
Never put that soundboard away, Tom.
Just added yall on Spotify! This is awesome!
Sitting here watching and my little voice in my mind Is saying you have to go exercise….but I am still watching.
Im a big collector of alpha flight comics sooo to see 9.9 number is amazing 👏 🙌 👌
UAF unidentified aerial fenomenon should go on a shirt haha. Love when you 2 are chatting together. Would love more discussions on pedigrees and also what resources are available for checking book page counts and if they have inserts etc.
This is kind of interesting. I don't know why, but for my PC I kinda PREFER buying pre-code Horror in low grade. Most books in that genre look cooler/more authentic with considerable wear, like around a 2.5-4.5, even down to a 2.0, as long as the full comic is intact. Plus, of course there's the added benefit that they're a lot cheaper than high or even mid-grade, as well. So I can definitely say my 50's EC collection may not be "pristine", but I love them all the same, and I have some great memories of buying them at different shops and shows, all over the Southeast USA, when I was a kid. I paid only $40 for a VG Crypt of Terror 17, because I hounded the shop owner for 3-4 hours (he had it priced at $60), because it was all the money I had and I was only 15. 😁 To this day, if a teen-ager comes into my store and shows some moxy, a little extra tenacity when bargaining for a book, I'll cut him a better deal than I would for an adult. Because I remember how tough it was to be taken seriously when you're a young collector.
You forgot to mention the incredible smell of those classic books!!!!
For anyone who loves EC, I think you'll appreciate my excitement over finding Mad #22 (1955) at Half Price Books this past Monday... for $1.50. A buck & a half!!! I can't believe my luck.
Back in the mid-80s when I was a kid there was a small comic shop in a neighboring city. My mom would take me there every few weeks to pick up my pulls. One Saturday we walked into the store, and I noticed something interesting in the small glass case at the counter.
An Amazing Fantasy 15. I felt like Indiana Jones, and I just found the Holy Grail.
I was a rabid reader at the time, but I was just getting into the collecting side of the hobby. The owner let me hold it, and I just stared at it for a moment. I had bought an Overstreet guide a few months before, and I had some barebones grading skills. The owner said it was a G/VG, and my skills-meager as they were-lined up with that.
He wanted $100 for it. $100. One hundred one dollar bills.
I thanked him for letting me hold it, shopped a bit, got my pulls, and then we left. When we got into the car, I explained to my mom the significance of that book. I told her that $100 was absolutely insane for that book in that condition.
She said she agreed. She’d never pay $100 for a book that looked that bad.
???
Wait, had I just stepped into a sitcom where someone’s statement got taken the EXACT opposite of how it was meant? Yes. Were hilarious hijinks about to ensue that would be resolved happily in less than 30 minutes? Tragically, no.
I reiterated just how big this book was-and even back then this was a unicorn among unicorns-and how cheap it was for the condition. It was worth $100 even if it didn’t have a cover. My mom wouldn’t budge. She said it was a ripoff and that he was trying to take advantage of us because I was a new collector. She said he would come to his senses, and I gathered that she was going to wait him out and offer him much less the next time we stopped by.
The store shut down suddenly a few weeks later. We never saw the owner or the AF15 ever again. Even now, my mom still tells the story every couple of weeks to anyone who will listen about how we missed buying the first appearance of Spider-Man for $100. And sometimes I guess she’s just thinking out loud because I’m the one she’s telling. Yeah, Mom, I know. I was there. 😂
I try to make her feel better by saying that we had no idea how valuable the book would be someday. It’s a lie, but I still tell her. Because I knew. Any collector would’ve known. In a strange way, the book’s skyrocketing price over the last few years has made the pill a little easier for both of us to swallow. Because even I couldn’t have predicted just how big it would be, how huge the entire market would become.
If I had known, my fourteen year old self at the time perhaps would have dusted off some of the skills that the five year old me had mastered. Maybe I would have thrown a tantrum and rolled around on the floor screaming like an idiot until she gave in and bought the book.
And that would’ve been really pathetic-unless it got me the book. No, it would’ve still been pathetic and totally not worth it. Maybe.
Anyway, that’s my story of the one that got away. Thanks, Mom. I still love you anyway.
You guys should talk about on the show about different resources for new comic fam getting into the game to be able to check if books had pin ups tattoos or whatever on the inside and what books page counts should be. Love the content
I have a real bad sellers regret. When I was a kid. 12-13 yrs old. I was paid to clear out a basement. I got to keep whatever was in there. Found a closet full floor to ceiling of goldband silver books. Which I have most of today. 1 of those was an ASM #1. My cousins and extended family loved to fish. I wanted to be apart of those adventures. I traded my #1 for a used old deep sea pole. Which ended up breaking on the 2nd fish I almost caught.
Growing up I passed on a Tales of Supense 39 in a mid Grade for $200 over $25 . I was haggling with the Comic Shop owner. His bottom line was 200 and I wanted it at 175. This was all before the MCU movies. He then offer me a Daredevil 1 in again in a mid grade and I turned around and told him Daredevil sucks and ended up walking away not buying anything. Sometimes haggling and egos will definitely cloud our best judgment.
Neutral Milk Hotel: in the aeroplane over the sea 🌊 classic alternative album!
Chilling with homies!
Minneapolis con in 82'. Young guy had a small table stacked with only original art. Mostly 70's Spiderman pages. I picked up a John Buscema Avengers page for $12. Still wonder what was in that pile of Spiderman. I still have that Avengers page!
Those are all impressive books, but wow that newsstand GIJoe! I can't even fathom how that is possible, amazing!
Great show as always guys!
My BIG Seller Regret -
Story #1 - Last year I discovered comic book dry cleaning and pressing and getting comics graded. As a test I picked a comic I bought back in '79, X-Men #120. It came back from CGC a rare 9.8. Then I heard the rumor that Alpha Flight was soon to be announced as part of the MCU so I hung onto the slab waiting, and waiting and waiting for the announcement, all the while the FMV fluctuating by $$$. Eventually I got tired of waiting and sold it for $3,000 to a very happy customer. Then two months later one sells for $500 more, and a month after that one sells for $1,200 more than my sale, and THEN last week you report one sold at auction for $11,250! You could hear me from a mile away screaming in agony. I also had #121 at CGC 9.8 that I sold a couple months ago and has more than tripled in price from what I sold mine for.
Story #2 - Buyer's and Seller's Regret - My LCS would put some comics in my pull list that he thought worth picking up. One of those was TMNT #1 first print. I saw a dozen or more still on the shelves and almost added 2-3 more to my bag but changed my mind, and then I did something really stupid, I put the comic he pulled for me back on the shelf. I did partially redeem myself by picking up issue #2 which I sent into CGC and it came back a 9.4, probably what issue #1 would be if I had bought them. It also has been selling for 50% higher than what I sold it for a few months ago.
In February, sold a ASM 361 Newsstand 9.6 for $300. Clearly should've held until the trailer.
Ended up POing a CGC 9.8 "The Nice House on the Lake" to avoid buyer's regret.
I enjoy your videos and purchased a 500+ lot of old comics from an estate sale 10 years ago. I had purchased the guys BMW a few weeks prior to his estate sale. He was an older guy and he had a ton of comics from the late 60's to the mid 80's that his kid collected. The comics were worthless at the time and I picked them up for $20. My brother and I tried to sell them on Ebay at the time 2011 and only a few of them had a value of like $7-15. I decided to not waste the time to list all of them and had my brother the comics to our local comic dealer. They rejected the pile of comics and said there was nobody collecting comics from those years. I'm in the process of bagging and backing each comic and will sell all of them on Ebay for an average of $10. Crazy how something that was worthless 10 years ago is now very collectible and I think I have $5000 worth of comics with around 20 hours of work to list all of them. I might submit some of the key date ones to CGC and I find it interesting that they charge about the same as NGC does for grading coins but the turn around times are 100 days. Is CGC the best company for grading?
I have a true seller regret about 20 years ago I was at a yard sale and asked if they had any comics sure enough they had a box in the house that they do not know what they had in it were a ton of old late golden age and early Silver age books. I told them what they had and as a reward the lady told me I could pick any for I want it for free. All I remember is that in the lot was an FF number four the first submariner. I was so excited and like a fool ran to my local CS And was told oh it’s in bad shape and took $12. It was probably a 5 to 5.5 but me being as impulsive as I was sold the damn thing. Major seller regret
I have a signed 2005 spawn super giant sized anniversary issue signed by Todd Mcfarland, with certificate of authenticity that I won in a raffle at Frank & Son's collectibles in SoCal, back in early 2000 he signed 2 different copies for me. great dude.
i see "an airplane over the sea on that shelf. woot!!!
Right around 2014 I was hunting at a local chain in San Diego, and found 10 copies of the bagged Ultimate Fallout #4 books, between 2 of their 8 stores. They were all cover price, so I bought them. Also, at these 2 stores were a total of 12 copies of the Djurdjevic variant. They were asking $12 a piece. I grumbled, because I didn't wanna pay $12 a piece. So, I grabbed the 2 best copies and grumbled paying $24 for the 2. A year later, I was unemployed and needed rent money. So, I sold those 2 Djurdjevic variants, an Incredible Hulk #180 autographed by Trimpe and Wein, a couple Edge of Spidervers #2s, a couple of regular bagged Ultimate Fallout #4s, and a few other things,...probably 15 to 20 books in total,...for $420. Because of this, I cry myself to sleep some nights. 😂😂😭😭😭😂😂
Everytime I watch this podcast that Gambit X-Men comic in the background just keeps catching my I the one book I could never get my Eleanor LOL
2 hour run time, I’m all in.
The packaging is dope looking.
You guys crushed it again. Those buyer’s regret stories hurt…
If I had the New Mutants 98, I would definitely be sending it off to be re-holdered with the Deadpool "9.9 Please" label.
I would want to go for the GI Joe if I can have one of those
Great podcast guys! Keep up the great work!! 👍👍
ive binged watched the majority of this channel's more than i want to admit.
Great show, love the conversation about horror.
Yup I’ve seen the hype for Pokémon at Target stores. Same goes for G.I. Joe Classified Series action figures. Damn scalpers.
Man that moose comics shop in factoria needs to get some new books and lower his prices! I know his rent must be really high but be has the same books everytime I go!
I have mentioned this before in the comments but I once sold a solid mid grade DD 1 for $100 and at the same time a FF 10 for $100 as well. Really needed some cash at the time. Buts that’s not the worst I once sold an entire long box full of silver age FF and amazing Spider-Man for $400 there was asm 6,29,30,31,40,50,39,60-70,100.....and to top it off I really had a tales of suspense 39 at about a 3.0 in there too. This was in 2008 and I was caught up in a really bad situation and needed cash immediately. A month later i sold a combo of FF 48 and 49 for $250. Both were maybe a 3.0 but still. Biggest regret considering comics EVER!!! I can only image the value I had there.
PCH is my favorite period and genre of comics. It was the first round of pushing the boundaries and it made people uncomfortable. Then we had it a little in the 70’s, really ramped it up with Indy horror in the 90’s and now again in the roaring 20’s
Passed on a 10.. Why ?..... Because I was stupid.
Nice!
It’s such an honest assessment, and we all feel it time to time.
i love all the content, keep it up yall
I am a single parent, my son's mother left me with my then 4 year old son. At that time I was not In a great place financially, so I sold a first appearance of Blade, Vision, and Silver Surfer along with a nice copy of Iron Man #1 (actually the guy bought like #1-#10 from me) so I would be able to take care of my son! No regrets, but I wish I still had them, because I doubt I'm going to be able to ever afford them again with college tuition lurking down the road. Side note: I worked at a comic shop and a customer brought in a Hulk #181 which I wanted so bad ( stamp and all). I worked out a deal with the owner to buy it and was literally moving money from my account to a credit card, she sold it to someone else right in front of my face. I still to this day don't own one🤬
And that beautiful Omega Red X-Men keeps catching my eye
Tom, although I realize the extreme rarity of 9.9 Newsstand, I have to say GI Joe #1 has never excited me -- I passed on it as a teen, and back then (stupidly) I also passed on MANY non-newsstand Direct bagged editions of GI Joe 1 that I came across. There was belief by some that practically all bagged non-newsstand copies were reprints, so I had some uncertainty. This unfounded "sweeping" bias still existed decades later -- for example, around 2000 a dealer tried to argue with me that the Whitman editions of Star Trek from the '70s were reprints. Of course, he was wrong. Sorry about the long comment. Thanks for the video.
Oh my god that set of 9.9s.... #goals
Horror is fun. I'm very nostalgic. I love both older Horror and SciFi. Is their a guide for just horror or Sci-Fi comics?
I sold my Giant size X-Men 8.5 in September of last year. Now I am crying whenever time I watc your videos.
So happy that you brought this issue in to the chat about selling your books and loosing out and being lied to .
Sweet I just found a UFO in my longbox, can't wait to get it graded. 😍
Modok makes it too easy to go for a head shot.
Great episode and some solid words of advice. But I can help but think that some key data is being lost on the sales, of bigger books of course, with them being moved on social media platforms. I know that data is acquired from eBay and auction sales for what big books are selling for. But I am sure that there have been undocumented sales on social, and they are not being recorded. I bet that there are significant difference in a sale, possibly missing thousands, on say Instagram not being recorded on GP. I also agree that DC keys are sleepers right now!
My holy jebus. December 2019, flew to California to look at a collection containing vf ff5 Lee/Kirby splash auto, nm hulk 180/181. Many many others. Didn’t buy for 28k. Offered 21k she didnt even counter. Another guy had offered 28k which she thought was guaranteed. When the dealer got there after us he offered 13k and ended up paying our price. I even told her to submit the books to Cgc and sell them on eBay. She was clueless. It hurts so bad.
Anyone who started reading comics in the 80s is like I should have bought all those keys.
NM 98 9.9?! WHHAT?? that's nuts
This has been a great segment. I learned so much. I'm starting to think about moving some books. And just now gathering, bagging and boarding into new bags. I may try a yard sale 1st.
A signature should hurt the books condition 9.9 lol it's nice to have connections.
You guys should do a follow up video of this one after the first year selling on whatnot.
Man I'm so Jelly! Personally i'd love to own the Giant Sized Xmen as its a true milestone of diverse heroes put into a team the world loves!
New subscriber looong time comic collector. Love the videos. All this slab stuff I don't get. I'm not going to knock it because I believe "to each their own". I do wonder though, will the slabbed books always be worth more, or do you think a generation of collectors may get annoyed by them, and a TON of books get cracked open. There will always be the collectors who want to feel, read and smell, the actual real deal, not rely on a TPB, or complied volume of single issues.
Very important to make the distinction between CGC and cbcs since Cbcs has been handing out high grades like crazy.
I had a chance to buy amazing fantasy 15 like 9 years ago for 1800 bux. It was beautiful but half the back cover was gone. Still a 20g book now. My dad didnt get paid yet. So we didnt get the book. The guy was supposed to hold it for us. We called him a couple days later when my dad got paid from his contracting shop and he had alreadt sold it. Now af15 is the only spidey i need. I have asm 1 thru 892
Cully hamner did the cover for Modok Head Games #1
I’m writing you from the future to tell you that golden age guru was correct, it’s a great show, the best they’ve put out!
The Elf lord story had me rolling guys
When i started collecting in the `90's Hulk 181 could be had for around $100. I was collecting Hulk comics, but couldn't get myself to spend so much money for a comic book
Milk hotel. Great album in background.
Wow that guy changed his shirt lol thought he given up on his appearances.
I agree 110% Loki will be better then the first two series. I feel the production is higher, and Owen Wilson will be fun in the MCU.
Go Joe Yo!!! I was born in 1982 , I gotta go with Joe #1 9.9 hands down .. I would beg for that slab.
GOD, I sold my FF48 and 49 back in 86 for 50 dollars each and he also threw in an X-men 14, I was a huge Xmen fan and I always wanted the first appearance of the sentinel's, so I did it...I WISH I didn't do it now....LOL those FF issues were near mint and the Xmen issue he gave me was in only good condition...smh...but at 16 years old I thought damn I got 100 dollars...SMH...I kick my self now...LMAO
Just read Nice House, did not see that coming!
SO GOOOOOOD
Chamber of chills is a fantastic cover. Golden age horror in general will continue to spike. Low census counts and amazing art work.
Great show as always! 👍
Great show as per usual.
We all love chatting about some expensive paper
I’m a GIJOE TH-camr… and have a 9.0 newsstand #1 so 9.9 is insane buttttt that Giant size at 9.8 is crazy
Maybe you can talk about what the best thing I should do about my FF 12 cgc 3.5 signed on splash page by “Stan Lee” and “Jack Kirby”. Better to send to cbcs for sig verification or better to keep in cgc?
Really enjoyed this podcast.🙂
Awesome show guys. I love it.
Was actively searching for a clone wars #1 3 years ago, looking at several 9.8 copies of the 1 of 1000 variant but couldn't find one for under $300, passed on several copies @9.8 that were under $500...biggest "buyers regret" next to passing on a Xmen #4 8.5 unpressed for 1500$ just last year about 6 months before wandavision...ouch!!!
I tried to stay up to watch, but this was a little late for me haha
Enjoying you videos from TX.
Always a dope show.
Great content! Thank you!
Love johnny desjarnins just picked up a couple on ebay including the first ronin
Sellers remorse, sold Spawn 174 SS cgc 9.6 and 230 at a 9.4 to buy my wife something nice. A month later Spawn universe was announced. Happy wife happy life 😅
Sellers regret. 2 big ones. I bought a Amazing Fantasy 15 in 1.0/2.0 or Good minus in 1987 for $80. The only issue was the cover was almost detached and it had marvel chipping on the edges. The book was however very clean. It still had cover gloss, was flat, and off white pages. Sold it plus 14 in F, and Ann 2 in vf for $1600 in 1998. Today these would bring 20,000 at least. I also was buying up every copy of Iron Man 55 I could find in the mid 90s for $5 to $10 each for Fine to Very Fine copies. I had 10 copies at one point. I sold them all around that $30 range each. I know I made money, but I could have made so much more.
Giant X-Men. No contest. White pages. Gorgeous!
Because the unidentifiable air phenomenon is changed as it may be of this earth as well
Hey comic fan, fan of the channel ! I was looking to purchase a Wolverine #1 (1988) CGC graded. But I don’t really know any trustworthy online sellers. Not sure if you have one to sell or know a reliable seller , that would be great.
I think a lot of people didn't realize the significance of that issue when it hit the stands, because Wolverine was already the cover feature of Marvel Comics Presents -- it was overlooked to some extent.