Gentlemen, many thanks for sharing. Truly an interesting day for both of you. I'm amazed that you can get the Ski's repaired. I would love to see a video of you out in the repaired ski's. Take care, keep having fun.
We're very fortunate to have a craftsman who can make repairs like this. Both skis look and run great -- we'll try to get a video up showing both soon!
I had the same thing happen this summer to my OC-1. Surfing a fairly tame swell, I peeled out sideways and it stood up hard on a shore break. I got off the boat, the wave lifted me and slammed me onto the nose crushing it.
Shore break + long boat can be devastating! 'Hope you and the OC1 are fully recovered now! We have each smashed an ama (th-cam.com/video/TmgUxuXoXuw/w-d-xo.html) and had some other close calls, but if we're going play, sometimes we have to pay... :)
We are fortunate to have a very good craftsman nearby who can repair this type of damage. We don't have any repair video, and we've both sold those boats, but they look and behave like almost-new after repair...just a little heavier. We wish we had repair video too!
A couple of things to keep in mind regarding this video. A: These are open ocean craft, designed to paddle open water and to surf bumps, so they're not really designed for wave play. B: Both of those surfskis had some age on them (though we have had a 1-year ski break in the surf zone, too -- see point A :) ). Both of these boats worked great when the waves were long and didn't break hard -- but taking any of the open ocean surfskis into a surf zone with hard-breaking waves is risky. If you want something specifically for wave play, you might want to consider something like the Epic SLS 10, a Dolphin Surf Ski, or another model designed specifically for the surf zone. Otherwise, try riding the back of the waves, rather than getting on the face, and never turn sideways at the point at which the wave dumps the ski out from under you (like Rod did in this video). Best of luck -- let us know what you decide to go with!
@@ThePaddleChannel Im going with a V7, so I hope that would be suitable for breaking waves. im already an experienced surfboard surfer so hopefully that will help.
I am quite surprised at the damage on the second ski, slamming the nose into the sand you can understand, but I have been caught in the surf zone a few times on my ski side on with little damage. Glad they could be repaired!
The waves can close out pretty hard at that inlet, and there was some definite separation of ski and paddler followed by a sudden and impactful reunion. :) That ski has been in the surf zone plenty with no ill effects -- it seems that was just one of those times when all the wrong things came together at the same time. But it's been repaired and is working great (but it hasn't been back through the inlet yet).
Chris did an amazing job on both surfskis. Hopefully Barry can find time to share a quick video of the V10. Really good to have them back in the water!
I caught a good size wave against the wind, so I stalled but was determined to own that wave 🌊 Well I dropped in late and nose dived straight to the bottom 8-10 dept where I was HELD under😳 when I did surfaced, I gave the loudest gasp. The surfski was being blown back to me by the same headwinds that stalled me. I humbly accepted my smash nose EPIC surfski and called it a day. It too has been repaired and still surfs pretty good.
Glad to hear the ski is back to life, and you're surfing it! Sometimes we have to pay to play...'wouldn't trade it for the world! Thanks for sharing your story!
Sounds like a very similar experience. We love pushing the boundaries we have for ourselves and our equipment. I will say that I have been a little more careful since this video was made. As you know, repairs like these are quite expensive.
We have become more selective about when we go out through areas like this, and we've learned to follow waves in, rather than trying to catch them on the face if they are breaking hard. Also, if we do get caught on the face of the wave, we bail to the high side, rather than trying to stay with the boat and risk coming down hard on it. Taking open ocean skis into heavy surf can be risky, but we've found those steps do help mitigate the risk. 'Hope that helps!
There are really two parts to answering your question...no, it's not really "normal". We've been dumped in plenty of waves with no problem -- on this particular day the inlet waves were pitching up steep and breaking hard, and we just happened to be in the exact wrong place at the exact wrong time. I (Rod) shouldn't have let the V10S drop out from under me like that -- when I came down on it, it was a little too much for it to take. We think the nose of Barry's V10 may have actually hit the sandbar -- at that time, the water went from 5m to 1m depth very quickly, and we think he pitch poled right into the bar. Keep in mind these particular surfskis are designed as open ocean boats -- the "surf" in "surfski" on these boats is for surfing downwind swell...not playing in the surfzone. So any time you take a lightweight ski like these into a surf zone, there's a risk. A spec ski like a Dolphin surfski would be a better choice for playing in the waves. For us, it's play and learn -- hopefully it won't happen again!
We wouldn't agree. These are open water boats, not surf zone spec skis, so asking them to hold up in breaking surf is...optimism. We have seen other surfski brands (and OC-1s, too) of excellent reputation and construction suffer similar damage in similar conditions. The truth is, if you take a lightweight open ocean boat into a surf zone, you're taking your chances. But that's just our opinion...ymmv.
Dings and mishaps are the price we pay for playing in the conditions and locations we enjoy (and they're opportunities to learn) -- glad you're able to patch up that ding...and that we were able to make you feel better about it... :)
We've run across videos and pictures of several skis (several brands, too) that have taken some catastrophic damage like that. The lesson here is to exercise extreme caution if we opt to play in surf zones in these open ocean boats. We even seen spec skis, which are made for surf use, getting smashed up pretty good...the ocean can be a mighty thing... :)
That was 100% user error on my part. Since that day, I snug the straps up -- it is just as comfortable as having them loose, and it fixes the riding up issue completely.
I had a similar situation once. Cold water, swallowed some water getting knocked in, popped back up to cough and my next breath was covered by a poorly fitted jacket. Terrifying looking for air and there is none. Good lessons for everyone, tighten that thing right up!
Well, now it sounds like you're just one upping us. :) 'Hope you were able to get that repaired -- we were very fortunate that we could get these boats repaired, and they're still getting out on water and doing their thing!
Sound advice. That was one of our first observations after reviewing first reviewing this footage. We now always snug the straps on the PFD before going out -- doing so doesn't decrease comfort at all. The Mocke PFD stays in place just fine if the strap are tightened properly. In truth, even with the straps loose, it would be nearly impossible to slip out of that PFD accidentally, but it does give one a heckuva chin rash if not tightened up. 😃
Not sure the construction of the skis was to blame here. Both skis are older and have been pushed through some tough conditions. More a case of "just one of those things" along with some strong closeouts that got both skis hammered that day. Barry's surfski is a custom V10, made more for flatwater speed, and Rod dropped down on his V10 Sport pretty hard. One friend told us, "Don't buy surfskis," but they're a lotta fun, even if something like this happens every once in a while.
This is a good story and a good lesson. You kept an eye out for each other and avoided disaster. I do these things with my sons, never alone.
It's good to have "adventures"...it's even better to come back home in one piece after one... :)
Gentlemen, many thanks for sharing. Truly an interesting day for both of you. I'm amazed that you can get the Ski's repaired. I would love to see a video of you out in the repaired ski's. Take care, keep having fun.
We're very fortunate to have a craftsman who can make repairs like this. Both skis look and run great -- we'll try to get a video up showing both soon!
I had the same thing happen this summer to my OC-1. Surfing a fairly tame swell, I peeled out sideways and it stood up hard on a shore break. I got off the boat, the wave lifted me and slammed me onto the nose crushing it.
Shore break + long boat can be devastating! 'Hope you and the OC1 are fully recovered now! We have each smashed an ama (th-cam.com/video/TmgUxuXoXuw/w-d-xo.html) and had some other close calls, but if we're going play, sometimes we have to pay... :)
Thanks for sharing! I feel the same way as you guys about only paddling flat water. Keep surfing!!!
Yeah, we're in the ocean every chance we get, for sure.
Yes... downwind runs and chasing bumps is soooo much fun. It’s the best form of interval training there is!!
Dang, I'd really love to see a repair video on these! Looked like a exciting and *memorable* day 😄
We are fortunate to have a very good craftsman nearby who can repair this type of damage. We don't have any repair video, and we've both sold those boats, but they look and behave like almost-new after repair...just a little heavier. We wish we had repair video too!
Didn't think headhigh waves could break skis so easily. Would the pu model be better to start catching waves with or is it too heavy?
A couple of things to keep in mind regarding this video. A: These are open ocean craft, designed to paddle open water and to surf bumps, so they're not really designed for wave play. B: Both of those surfskis had some age on them (though we have had a 1-year ski break in the surf zone, too -- see point A :) ). Both of these boats worked great when the waves were long and didn't break hard -- but taking any of the open ocean surfskis into a surf zone with hard-breaking waves is risky. If you want something specifically for wave play, you might want to consider something like the Epic SLS 10, a Dolphin Surf Ski, or another model designed specifically for the surf zone.
Otherwise, try riding the back of the waves, rather than getting on the face, and never turn sideways at the point at which the wave dumps the ski out from under you (like Rod did in this video). Best of luck -- let us know what you decide to go with!
@@ThePaddleChannel Im going with a V7, so I hope that would be suitable for breaking waves. im already an experienced surfboard surfer so hopefully that will help.
I am quite surprised at the damage on the second ski, slamming the nose into the sand you can understand, but I have been caught in the surf zone a few times on my ski side on with little damage. Glad they could be repaired!
The waves can close out pretty hard at that inlet, and there was some definite separation of ski and paddler followed by a sudden and impactful reunion. :) That ski has been in the surf zone plenty with no ill effects -- it seems that was just one of those times when all the wrong things came together at the same time. But it's been repaired and is working great (but it hasn't been back through the inlet yet).
Repaired! I'm amazed.
Chris did an amazing job on both surfskis. Hopefully Barry can find time to share a quick video of the V10. Really good to have them back in the water!
I caught a good size wave against the wind, so I stalled but was determined to own that wave 🌊 Well I dropped in late and nose dived straight to the bottom 8-10 dept where I was HELD under😳 when I did surfaced, I gave the loudest gasp. The surfski was being blown back to me by the same headwinds that stalled me. I humbly accepted my smash nose EPIC surfski and called it a day. It too has been repaired and still surfs pretty good.
Glad to hear the ski is back to life, and you're surfing it! Sometimes we have to pay to play...'wouldn't trade it for the world! Thanks for sharing your story!
Sounds like a very similar experience. We love pushing the boundaries we have for ourselves and our equipment. I will say that I have been a little more careful since this video was made. As you know, repairs like these are quite expensive.
Rod - great edit! Can’t wait til the next downwinder!
Coming soon!
Do you guys have a video on how the skis were actually repaired?
No, unfortunately we don't. We just took them to "our guy", and he worked his magic on them.
That is a big fear I have if I get a boat. How do you prevent that from happening? Tommy
We have become more selective about when we go out through areas like this, and we've learned to follow waves in, rather than trying to catch them on the face if they are breaking hard. Also, if we do get caught on the face of the wave, we bail to the high side, rather than trying to stay with the boat and risk coming down hard on it. Taking open ocean skis into heavy surf can be risky, but we've found those steps do help mitigate the risk. 'Hope that helps!
OMG! Is it normal to have a surfski torn apart in half just because of a capsize on a wave?
There are really two parts to answering your question...no, it's not really "normal". We've been dumped in plenty of waves with no problem -- on this particular day the inlet waves were pitching up steep and breaking hard, and we just happened to be in the exact wrong place at the exact wrong time. I (Rod) shouldn't have let the V10S drop out from under me like that -- when I came down on it, it was a little too much for it to take. We think the nose of Barry's V10 may have actually hit the sandbar -- at that time, the water went from 5m to 1m depth very quickly, and we think he pitch poled right into the bar.
Keep in mind these particular surfskis are designed as open ocean boats -- the "surf" in "surfski" on these boats is for surfing downwind swell...not playing in the surfzone. So any time you take a lightweight ski like these into a surf zone, there's a risk. A spec ski like a Dolphin surfski would be a better choice for playing in the waves. For us, it's play and learn -- hopefully it won't happen again!
Epic JUNK
We wouldn't agree. These are open water boats, not surf zone spec skis, so asking them to hold up in breaking surf is...optimism. We have seen other surfski brands (and OC-1s, too) of excellent reputation and construction suffer similar damage in similar conditions. The truth is, if you take a lightweight open ocean boat into a surf zone, you're taking your chances. But that's just our opinion...ymmv.
"Floating a little bit" Ha!!
Optimism... :)
Had a bad ding that I patched up today but after seeing this I feel quite fortunate that it was only a ding
Dings and mishaps are the price we pay for playing in the conditions and locations we enjoy (and they're opportunities to learn) -- glad you're able to patch up that ding...and that we were able to make you feel better about it... :)
wow no words
Seathrun Magaoinghous thankfully they can be repaired.
Check out the latest video -- the V10 Sport is back and looking good! The V10 Gen 1 is due back from the shop today, and it's looking good, too!
I saw another vid of an epic snapped in half.
We've run across videos and pictures of several skis (several brands, too) that have taken some catastrophic damage like that. The lesson here is to exercise extreme caution if we opt to play in surf zones in these open ocean boats. We even seen spec skis, which are made for surf use, getting smashed up pretty good...the ocean can be a mighty thing... :)
Interesting how poorly that Orange PFD (Mocke?)is fitted and rides up around your chin when submerged. Not good.
That was 100% user error on my part. Since that day, I snug the straps up -- it is just as comfortable as having them loose, and it fixes the riding up issue completely.
I had a similar situation once. Cold water, swallowed some water getting knocked in, popped back up to cough and my next breath was covered by a poorly fitted jacket. Terrifying looking for air and there is none. Good lessons for everyone, tighten that thing right up!
I busted my v8 pro in 3😢
Well, now it sounds like you're just one upping us. :)
'Hope you were able to get that repaired -- we were very fortunate that we could get these boats repaired, and they're still getting out on water and doing their thing!
@@ThePaddleChannel bought v9
@@jrsmith502 great boat -- we're sure your enjoying it!
Wish I could add picture here
Please fit your life jackets better. Or use one with a strap that holds it down.
Sound advice. That was one of our first observations after reviewing first reviewing this footage. We now always snug the straps on the PFD before going out -- doing so doesn't decrease comfort at all. The Mocke PFD stays in place just fine if the strap are tightened properly.
In truth, even with the straps loose, it would be nearly impossible to slip out of that PFD accidentally, but it does give one a heckuva chin rash if not tightened up.
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Don’t buy epic
Not sure the construction of the skis was to blame here. Both skis are older and have been pushed through some tough conditions. More a case of "just one of those things" along with some strong closeouts that got both skis hammered that day. Barry's surfski is a custom V10, made more for flatwater speed, and Rod dropped down on his V10 Sport pretty hard. One friend told us, "Don't buy surfskis," but they're a lotta fun, even if something like this happens every once in a while.
Dave White Everyone has their preferred brand. I seriously do not think the construction was at fault at all.
Name a surfski that would have survived this 😂
@@darraghobrien1028 probably the rotomolded v5 or v7 lol