He took a 20B check home, you really think he was going to say no I'd rather not have money to preserve Star Wars - the same guy that added silly 3D CGI stuff to the old movies to sell new copies of them?
@piccolo1906 Tin Foil Hat Time: Is it possible he sold it, knowing KK would drive it into the dirt, so later he could buy it back for pennies on the dollar??? [I luv a good conspiracy theory .... so maybe it was NOT a "Terrible mistake" but a well planned strat to milk it, and sell it again, later on]
When the First Order had their walkers arrayed against the doors of the Resistance stronghold... How better to show actual resistance than for Luke to swoop down in an X-Wing, fire off his torpedo's, eject and slam his Xwing into the side of another, swing on a wire to cut the front legs of one before landing atop another and slicing his way inside etc... Just go ham on what a Jedi Master can do to an unsuspecting army. Instead we got Luke Forcing so hard he went all Kevin Smith after a good cry and fading into nothing. If TLJ has to exist I'll take the FilmFix edit over RJ's. It may not fix all the problems, but it sure shows RJ needed his own Marcia Lucas to pull his work out of the mire RJ put it into.
I remember my mother took me to see Star Wars in 1997. She thought it was boring and fell asleep. I asked her why she took me to see it if she thought it was boring. She said, "I knew you would like it." Thanks, mom.
You know Lego aren't allowed to talk about it but they did a study trying to figure out why they could sell to boys but not girls. Turns out they play different. Boys pick up Batman and they become Batman, girls pick up Batman and Batman becomes them. That's when theybstarted releasing the "lifestyle" sets for girls. Lego knows Boys want to be Luke and Han and that girls do not.
LEGO also know that the Star Wars license was the thing that saved their company when it was going broke. They release mostly PT & OT sets because that's what sell but they are two different markets. The guys that buy the PT sets, they are building out their clone armies and they love their mini fig armies. They mostly want that scale sets. The people mostly buying the OT stuff they really like the big elaborate, highly detailed expensive sets that are the Ultimate Collector Series.
Kennedy didn't just remove men from the Star Wars screen, she also removed men from the audience. At minimum that eliminated 50% of the revenue--but the reality is closer to 90% due to social reasons.
Women are 51% of the population, and most , not all, hate Star Wars, Disney will make them like it or choke on it by shoving it down their throats with every vile, hateful, woke idea they can conceive. Hope Disneys plan works, cause no straight male is going to be there to get cucked.
What are you even talking about loool. Recent shows with male leads: Mandalorian, Boba Fett, Obi-Wan, Andor, Bad Batch Even the sequel trilogy had 4 leads (Rey, Finn, Ben, Poe) and 3 of the 4 are men. I'm a guy myself but why do you feel threatened, I don't get it.
@@qwertyvypez you are seriously going to say that after what they've done to the Mandalorian? It's the perfect example.. it started off that way and was popular. Then they denigrated him and played up a female as the lead who doesn't even wear a Helmut all the time. Now it's dropping in popularity and profitability. Couldn't say about Andor. Hear it's dystopic but well made but didn't watch it and there isn't much social media on it.
I am super old and was around when the original Star Wars came out. I then spent 40 something years being called first a "virgin living in mums basement", then a "manchild" by these very people that now have hijacked my hobbies and are telling me that they are no longer for me. We had plenty of girls along side us loving comics and games and nerd stuff. None of them want this change either, they loved these things because of what they were.
Never going to understand these studios outright rejecting - and even mocking - what has been their core audience for 50 years... The 'Modern Audience' doesn't love anything, they only hate. They don't build anything, they only destroy and then move on. They care about the narrative, the social and political goals and could honestly care less about the product itself. Disney is doing far greater damage than they are willing to admit, because they aren't just leaving the current generational fans behind, they're severing that generational connection - kids who WOULD have grown up raised on Star Wars (and then raised THEIR kids on it and so on) will instead consider it a footnote in cinema history.
You must understand, you're dealing with a religion, one that is more fanatical then ISIS and just as malicious. Even if they can't get that mythical new unicorn audience they chase after, just knowing that they ruined it for you, a white man (I assume, as they do) is all the motivation they need. This cult is so batsh1t insane it makes Tom Cruise's Scientology look sane in comparison.
Arrogance. That's all it is. They're arrogant midwit fools who think they can do better than their predecessors despite having none of the talent, skills or sanity.
They think there’s this phantom audience that agrees with their agenda and wants this when really it’s just bitter old cat ladies like Kathleen Kennedy (I say this as a cat owner but the cats being put in marvel was so dumb)
The man-hating of extreme intersectional feminism creates a powerful religious fervour in its supporters, and they think that their cause is so holy and righteous that it is destined to succeed. No matter the significantly male-leaning demographics stacked against them, because reality be damned.
LucasFilm's goals aren't commercial - they're ideological. Success for them lies in hiring and casting people with high intersectional value, telling stories that align with far-left ideals, and then claiming victimhood when people show no interest. Wash-Rinse-Repeat. They look at their diminishing box office performance as evidence of patriarchal dominance which motivates them to repeat this strategy - "There's still so much work to do."
@@CormathIrecar Do you really think that there are no alternatives in leisure? There are infinite. The problem with these evil people is that they are overconfident about the lives they live and believe they are gods. But from the heights the vertigo is greater. Just because they think they can doesn't mean they will achieve it. In fact, they are not achieving it. They themselves admit it: "There is still a lot of work." What I read there is frustration. They can spend their whole lives trying, but they are not going to succeed, and they know it. That's why they continue to press, because in their excess of vanity they want everything to be as they say. They are evil people. But Tolkien already said it: "Evil cannot create, only corrupt." You cannot go against the nature of things and break the natural course of events. If you do, be aware of the consequences. What have they really achieved? Rejection by the general public. Yes, it is true that they stain things. Star Wars is tainted, but we will always have the classic trilogy, and the EU. They can't change that. Exactly the same thing happens with LOTR: Peter Jackson's trilogy is wonderful and the books are a delight. The true objective of these individuals is to attack weak and malleable minds. And they can achieve it. But the rest of us will fight back while we can. Always.
Especially when they think we only want female leads because we are incapable of identifying with a male lead. Like no? I am very fine with both genders and i dont need a mary sue to feel good about myself
WORD. I've been a fan since a kid in the 80's. As a female and now in my 40's, I'm living out my childhood dream of being a stormtrooper, Princess Leia, a jawa... for the kids I costume for during community and charity events. Star Wars is male dominated yes, but women are very much a part since the very beginning.
And you know they'd get mad if they took something female-led and tried making it for men. Let's se how well that works with something like Barbie or Sex and the City.
15 years working with children here. Young girls in general are NOT into Star Wars or superheroes. They are into fairies, princesses and unicorns. It's just how it is, regardless of whether Disney want it otherwise.
You are a correct and of course there are exceptions to the rule. I was so into Star Wars /Star Trek from age 8 in 1977, collected merchandise from that age BUT I still played with my barbie dolls. That said, Star Wars should be a boy brand and this force female concept is off putting and nonsense, in my eyes. It has destroyed Star Wars
A lot of women are done with Star Wars also. What girl or woman didn't crush on Luke, Han, or even prequel Obi-Wan and Anakin? Both men and women were characters with substance - showing hardship, and hard fought victories.
That's really a point more YT critics should bring up! Many women do in fact like men, and like to see them in movies. Though it must be hard for ones like Kennedy to understand.
A hot guy with charism and there would be more women in theater. Hard for them but reality. Feminism is important but it's boring in pop culture.Except good writting like Buffy, Alien or Kill Bill. The SW Disney has nothing like that. And more important, good feminist character never hate men in pop culture. Alchemy between feminists characters and men makes them humans and endearing. Nothing like a solo Mary Sue without emotion.
Men are tired of feminist propaganda on all fronts. We are moving on and I applaud it. Go ahead women, do it all on your own. We have more time for other things. Anything but media and entertainment.
Do remember, though, that it's not all women.... it's the crazy men hating feminists. I'm on the female side of this equation and I think a lot of fellow women have gone stark raving mad.
Back in the 80's when the Disney Stores were in every mall you could not find a boys toy. It was all girls toys and clothings. At one point they sold power ranger toys to at least have some boy stuff. Star Wars was always assumed to be juggernaut that would never end. Disney found a way to kill it. Still incredible to watch this and see how much they went out of there way to kill it
The reason why Force Awakens managed to make so much money is not because of how good it was (corporate rehash) but it shows how much fans wanted a new mainline Star Wars movie. The German word Schadenfreude is the best way to describe my feelings: they threw away the entire old EU and now their Post-ROTJ canon is a dead-end because of the incompetence of Kathleen Kennedy
Uh, I realized that it was dead when Disney bought it. I knew they would run it into the ground with subpar material. No one could have foreseen just how bad it would be, though, with all of the feminist trash. I never spent a penny on Disney Star Wars. I was and still am perfectly content with George Lucas and his 6 episode saga. I want to remind everyone of how fans celebrated Disney and said that the new management would save Star Wars from George Lucas. Many of you were Lucas hating a$$holes and you all got what you wanted. Well, it blew up in your collective faces. It is worth reminding a lot of you just how much of a role you played to start with in the destruction of Star Wars. I remember how awful many of you fans used to be.
Star Wars was released in 1977, at the right time at the right moment when this country was still reeling in the aftermath of both the Watergate Scandal and the Vietnam war. It bought everyone and everybody together young, old, black and white, male and female. They were black, Latino and female Star Wars fans back in the 70s 80s and the 90s,thanks to the success of Star Wars in movies, TV, comic books, novels, and games which gave birth to the expanded universe.
“Star Wars” is the best of the franchise like “James Bond 007” did. The “James Bond” series had so many movies back in the 1960’s, 1970’s, 1980’s, 1990’s and the 2000’s.
It's the same for women's sports: Many women also like watching sports... But they would rather watch MEN'S sports... Many women like nerd stuff... THE WAY IT WAS. They say "Star Wars was always for everyone!" and they are right. Star Wars WAS for everyone. Nowadays Star Wars isn't for anyone at all.
It was mainly for boys and there was nothing wrong with that. It was a boys brand. The few women and girls that watched it knew that it was a male centric action adventure franchise and had no problem with it. It wasn't created to be an intersectional feminist platform.
i got into an argument with someone from i think it was the 501st on facebook one time about how star wars needs to be more inclusive with lgbt and other bs and my question was, it has always been inclusive, show me proof how it was never inclusive and they couldnt prove it to me, i ended up getting banned from their facebook page lol
The “women who (actually) love Star Wars, of which I happen to be” DO NOT LOVE THIS CRAP THEY HAVE BRANDED AS STAR WARS”. Just because we are women does not mean we don’t love it for the same reasons as everyone else, (you know, like men…). The hero’s journey is traditional, and speaks to something in all of us; I like to think its aspiration and hope: that we all face great obstacles and tribulations, and though it may not seem as momentous as a hydra, or an evil galactic empire, our supreme efforts and particular God-given gifts will help us prevail where others couldn’t. Or perhaps that we were destined for greater things, or any number of other positive, inspirational ideas that can push us to be better people. I find even people who are aware of the divisive nature of the message promoted by pop culture and the government, men in particular, still “cowed” by the message all the same. One does not have to be a man or woman to identify with a basic idea. Along this same line of thought, these same people, despite being able to be divided into subgroups, don’t require a SPECIAL depiction of race or gender to relate to it; I’d argue that the best stories could be told with any race or gender in the primary roles & it wouldn’t change the message or feeling it gives in the least, unless the race or gender IS the story, and therein lies the problem with entertainment for the last decade. Attempting to disguise a social message in the guise of a popular franchise doesn’t fool anyone any more than a wolf wearing fake glasses with a fake nose & mustache fools the sheep. Trends are common in Hollywood, but trends last a season or a year; what we’ve seen is a concerted attempt to program public thinking over a decade. And lately, they” (Hollywood executives) have just started saying it aloud (for complete arrogance & confidence that there is nothing anyone can do): WE are the problem, and WE need to change how we think. Anyway, preaching to the choir, I know… but one can’t shout this message loud enough, or frequently enough. It’s damaged our culture and, ultimately, done a lot to destabilize the world (IMHO)… but you aren’t a political channel. Godspeed.
Please Disney make this Rey movie and get this shit over with. I can not wait to see how much money they can hemorrhage. Fuck Disney Star Wars R.I.P. Star Wars 2012.
50y old. Started to check out after TLJ. Fortunately I saw it for free as I was “trooping” in my TK armour to promote the film for the cinema. Love the originals… even found new love for the prequels but having watched Ashoka (my kid loved rebels growing up) I’ve just given up. The Zahn books were my lifeline and return to SW in the early 90’s. When reading them you could hear John Williams music in your head. What they did to Thrawn, one of the most perfectly written intelligent bad guys in a live action show was painful to watch and the nail in the coffin. The failure of the force is female.
My first introduction to Star Wars was the Thrawn trilogy, before I ever heard of the movies. T. Zahn just wrote pure gold and it should have been a template for either the sequel trilogy or leading to it. What a wasted potential... 😮
Most of us went to see those films because we wanted to see Luke Leia and Han and chewy and we were tricked into seeing the last Jedi because we still wanted to see Luke and then it was over
@@rmmj7james293Oh God, that's awful. They've taken away something so beloved from a lot of us. I only consider the original 6 to be Star Wars, I've tried to watch the new ones & cannot make it through to the end.
@@StevieZala yeah, I mean we all have seen a trash movie, right? But I guess Star Wars must have meant something to me when I saw the first one at 7yrs back in '77 that really took a hit with what that Johnson guy dud. And yes, the first 3, the prequels and maybe the first 2 series of the Mandelorian, maybe
At 62 years old, female in the real sense, I have loved Star Wars since they started in the 1970's. You had macho men and a fighting, feisty woman. You rarely went to a movie more than once back then, but I saw the first Episode twice. I still love what Star Wars started as. I'm sad over the direction it has gone, yet I remain hopeful that someday the real Star Wars will return and the past three movies were all a dream.😁
We're all forgetting the way feminism works - if they cannot convert they will destroy. Star Wars dead is a victory for them. They never loved it anyway.
The one thing that most people don't seem to realize is just how little Star Wars Merch is selling these days. Almost all the money is in the Merch. And Disney has pushed away nearly every fan that wanted to buy Merch.
This will all be studied in film and business schools for decades. "How to turn a multi billion dollar IP into dust, and bring your company down with it."
You know what women flocked to? Barbie! (Men did not flock to that movie) You know what women aren’t flocking to? Female heavy Star Wars! Take note Hollywood
Hollywood took note. They're just taking the wrong lessons from Barbie. They seem deadset to continue with failure based on, at least in their view, an outlier.
I remember US EU fans funded a billboard in front of Lucasfilm to bring back the Expanded Universe.....it fell on deaf mouse ears. That should have been one of many signs.
Ah, the better timeline, the one where Luke, Han and Leia live into old age, have families. Luke actually succeeds in bringing back the Jedi, and their descendents are still around a century after they died off in the Disney timeline.
It's true. As a rule, a huge majority of women aren't interested in science fiction and fantasy or sports for that matter. I'm not saying all women, but most of them. These people trying to make women the focal point in these genres are preaching to a choir that doesn't exist. And men just aren't going to go for it. They can try to shove that crap down our throats, but men just aren't going to cooperate and will just pass on supporting it. I mean, how much more freaking evidence do they, need.
You are absolutely right. As a female I am an exception to the rule regarding Science Fiction and fantasy ( it all led me to having a Science/Medical degree) and got into Star Wars/Star Trek from the age of 8. However I am so over the focus of women, force is female concept ( really hate it) and Star Wars needs remain as a boy brand.
No matter what Disney trys to do to repair the damage that was 7 years too late it’s not gonna help them as we seen with the merchandise and toys sales that tells you where Star Wars is today.
Iger bought SW for the existing fans, but ended up using it for an experiment with social theory. Aka “My professor said there are no differences between men and women interests that aren’t just social programming so we can just give girls SW and they’ll like it just as much”
Lucas himself was always protective of his “baby” that is Star Wars. Even when securing the rights to make it back in the 70’s he always hated the idea of studio meddling. I always wondered and may have even scratched my head as to why he was ok to let Disney buy those same rights and IP.
At the time Disney was doing a good job with studios they had bought. Pixar had continued to deliver, and the MCU was beginning to warm up. I could understand Lucas believing the then Disney Company would be a good home. What he couldn't anticipate was the Iger Company entirely abandoning normal people. I do still wonder what was he thinking when he installed Kennedy? He must have known what kind of person she was.
@@FunPicard makes sense. By the time Lucas sold the rights Disney was a titan among titans. Success everywhere they went. Disney was like a giant King sitting upon a throne of Gold crafted by his loyal and loving subjects. Now its a shell of its former self.
The Last Jedi was the last Star Wars thing I’ve watched. I won’t even pirate the stuff, however I feel the same about my dear old Star Trek and what that franchise has turned into.
JJ is a corporate leach, while GL was a culture custodian. GL's vision wasn't to milk SW for everything it was worth... It was to build it and show his vision to the audience who responded by saying 'more'. JJ, Iger and KK went into it to make money and I'm of two minds on RJ. On the one hand he killed SW... But seeing as what KK had in mind I wonder if it was a mercy killing that signaled for those who missed it in TFA that SW was indeed dead and KK was going to subvert it. It's a rare instance where a Golden Raspberry award might have an element of positivity in ending peoples active fandom early before they could waste money on discovering what KK intended slow boil style.
If you want more women to your franchise or stories you do NOT get rid of the men, you keep them & perhaps even add more men! Yes, women as well, but absolutely men! I am a woman & have loved SW since I was a child. Of course I loved Leia, even identified with her. But my fav's was still Han & Luke! Always was & always will be. I am also a major Rambo fan. Yes, women can absolutely love characters in such classic action. Just because they are masculine men! I am also a deeply major Alien franchise fan & Ripley is one of the best characters ever put to film. But I am not just a fan of those films because of Sigourney Weaver. There are a lot of other characters surrounding Ripley in those films, both male & female, & I love them a lot, too. Plenty of eye candy as well as identification. James Bond has, just as SW, mostly been a male orientated franchise that also pulled a lot of female fans as well. That is because the male part of the audience fantasizes about being Bond himself while the female part wants to sleep with Bond! As you can imagine I also grew up with the Terminator films &, naturally, Sarah Connor is high up there. But the thing is... Arnold was also in those films! So was Michael Beihn whom I had a major crush on back in the day. Because he was a MAN! And now, let's look at the real Disney classics. All our animated Disney princesses. They all met a boy, fell in love & it all ends with happily ever after. That appeals to girls & women, hence why Disney once was the mega company that it now has decided not to be anymore. Because now their princesses, brand new or in their re-booted versions, don't meet boys & fall in love or need any man. And, what a surprise, the vast majority of the Disney princesses' stories now all fail commercially. Because girls & women have no reason to watch them. Because it's no longer stories about growing up & finding your place &, if lucky, finding your soul mate in life while it all happens in an entertaining adventure. Actual fairy tales. All that is destroyed & long gone. The desire & fantasy for fairy tales are not dead & would forever be commercial successes. But they are no longer fairy tales. They pretend to be but they are wolves in sheep's clothing. They are shallow & empty mystery boxes that never contained anything to begin with. And none of this sells, oh geez. What a mystery - NOT! When Peter Jackson's master piece LOTR came along there was a certain Orlando Bloom playing Legolas that gained a lot of swift fame already with the first film released. The vast majority of the fans that followed Bloom were in fact GIRLS! And they loved Orlando so much that they happily followed him into POTC as Will Turner, where the whole world finally fell in love with the marvelous Johnny Depp as Captain Jack Sparrow. In a DISNEY production, I wish to remind everyone! POTC had a huge female fan base as well as male & that as great as Kiera Knightley is as Elizabeth Swann most did not turn up for those films only because of her, regardless if it was a man or a woman. No. Men draw the huge audiences, that is just how it is. Women can absolutely draw the crowds, too. But regardless, it demands quality. And realistic common sense. History itself is full of examples; if the men are there the women will be, too. It was women that screamed with pleasure over the Beatles & Elvis. Women could centuries back not keep quiet in church because they worshiped the local preacher that was always a man back then. If you want a female audience, give us men! Because more than 95% of women are hetero & are therefor attracted to men. Women love to fantasize, including sexually fantasize, about the male characters, wishing we were the lucky female character that gets the male character. That is how it works, that is how all story telling has always worked. KK claims that I, as a woman, is unable to identify with male characters such as Han Solo & Luke Skywalker. She thinks that she is giving me a compliment or protecting me or something. But in reality, she is insulting me & all women who like male characters just as much as she insults men in general. Just because KK hates men & is unable to identify with male characters it doesn't mean that the rest of the female half of the global population shares her problem. Since I am a woman myself I already know how women think & feel, that is why I worship Ripley & Leia as long as they are written right & with respect. And the same reason as I am a woman it makes me more curious of men just because I don't really know how they think & feel BUT I can still imagine how it is like. I can still identify with them, as characters, as human beings or just beings. A trait that KK apparently totally lacks. If your business model if to sell a product = a story that appeals to the imagination & human emotions you better know how human emotions work, our dreams & desires, & also be very much aware of that men & women desire different things or the same things but in different ways. Up until now that never seemed to be a major problem. Yes, bad story telling has existed since the stone age but never before because of woke activism & an open discrimination against men in story telling. The day after I watched TLJ back in 2017 I was a zombie. I couldn't think, I just walked around at home like a living dead, trying to grasp what they had done to my dearly beloved Luke. My great hero & role model ever since I was a child. I will never forgive them for what they did. I was given a lot of hope back when Luke was allowed to return as his true self on Mandalorian but all that meaning & momentum is now all gone again. Replaced by boring female characters that don't even feel like actual women. I used to be able to identify with female characters. I no longer can. They don't represent me or anyone. Because they are not even characters. They are weapons, mere symbols of propaganda, in this SJW war on culture & entertainment. I haven't been to any movie theater in ages. Because they don't show anything I wanna see anymore. Why pay to see something that refuses to give me what I want = awesome characters in epic stories that I wanna see again & again for as long as I live? I want hot admirable MALE characters! Give me that & I will pay for the ticket. I might even buy the plastic toy & bring home instead of leaving it on the shelf like we all do now. We want quality, not quantity. We want men to be men & we want women to be women. Their color of their skin or sexuality is irrelevant.
My interest in SW has waned greatly over the past decade. My 10 yr old asked to watch Family Guy the other night show I showed him the Family Guy Star Wars episodes followed by some Robot Chicken Star Wars skits and those shows helped to revive my interest, even if it was just that one night. Family Guy and Rbot Chicken did Star Wars better than Disney's Lucasfilm. The studio and the media focus too much on the box office returns. Star Wars survived years of movie drought due to merchandise. That is what keeps franchises alive. Without appealing stories and characters, no one buys merchandise between movies and shows.
They may focus on the box office returns, but not on the actual profitability of those returns. With 2 of the 4 movies having lost money. And the shows cost insane amounts of money for the actual return of investment
The -force- _failure_ is female. Use their marketing momentum against them. If they want to take ownership of this disaster, let them all share in the blame for ruining it. Great video, with a lot of relevant research to support your arguments. I just wish I could muster even the tiniest amount of energy to care about the schadenfreude of it all at this point. The apathy is real.
Thanks! VR, thank you. I’m an original Star Wars fan and I hate to see what has been done to the founding characters. When I complain I’m criticized by people who have no real interest in Star Wars but love to push woke. It’s truly nice to see someone who gets me.
But, it's more than that! Not only is there not enough women, there's a large percentage of women out there that also doesn't like what they did....original female fans of SW, and they also peaced out....I'm one of them. Disney keeps trying to ignore those women's voices, but they can't ignore the lack of money they are getting from this. I am so pissed what they did to Star Wars, I refuse to offer a dime to Disney anymore, whether it be SW, Marvel, or their cartoons. I have a husband and two kids. They wont go either. Now you add that up to how many women they pissed off like me, add that to the men that also wont see this anymore. They may have lost up to 75% of their audience because of what they did. It's no wonder they're so hesitant to make another movie. Because they know! They can pretend and preach all they want, but that's not going to bring them back.
I agree with Andre of Midnights Edge that the firing of Gena Carano killed Star Wars. It’s dead and there is no resurrecting it, even if it refocuses on a male audience.
Sorry, the travesty known as TLJ was the turning point. The Mando series was initially a breath of fairly fresh air, and the Season 2 finale had a lot of us hoping things were gonna change. There were rumblings Dave and John were going to retcon the sequels with the World between Worlds but the BOBF and Mando S3 quashed that hope pretty well. All of those videos showing fans’ live reactions to Mando S2 finale give a glimpse of what could’ve been for Disney if they hadn’t chosen to stab the fandom in the back.
I would submit that women DO love Star Wars, when it was the Star Wars they loved. When Luke was brave, and hopeful and not an embittered old hermit ready to shank his nephew for being a little emo. When Han was the best smuggler and astrogation pilot in the galaxy, brave and roguish and charming. Kennedy and crew need to understand that men want to ne heroes and most women who havent bought into 3rd wave narcissism want to see heroic men.
It still baffles my mind how disney totally ruined that gold star money printing franchise in such a short time without any need. It is like they hate money and wan't to burn as much as possible.
The box office results from The Force Awakens gave them a false sense of security. They failed to realize that they could’ve showed a 2.5hr introduction crawl, and longing Star Wars fans still would’ve paid money to see it? Then they completely shyte the bed with the sequel, and it was all downhill ever since.
@@crazyralph6386 Yeah, episode 7 was "ok". The really were careful compared to 8. We could see some hints of the shitshow which had yet to come with episode 8. But i thought most of the time during 7, that episode 8 would explain why Rey is so super talented and super strong in the force without any training...but nope...simply a mary sue fan-fic.
@@elektronischemusik1903 looking at in hindsight, it still baffles me that they didn’t have a battle plan or story written for the entire trilogy? They just made shyte as they went along, which is so amateurish. George never would’ve done that.
There is also so much to unpack about the defaming of Gina Carano. A lot of unacceptable behaviour from Lucasfilm. The real reason was placating the preferred pronoun advocates. They could have been ignored entirely with no damage o Star Wars. Instead their "safe space" / control has been given priority and Star Wars has been taken from true Star Wars fans who liked it for its own sake as opposed to as a platform for The Message.
Thank you for voicing this fact that we apparently are not allowed to cover anymore! I forget what the source was but I saw a statistic that talked about when Bob Iger first purchased Star Wars, he outright stated that it had an audience of 96% boys! Who would have thought that women just aren't that interested in space battles and duels with Lazer swords lol! It's a tale as old as time! Since when have they ever?
I've read that the female audience is somewhere around 30% of the fandom. And even THEY can't stand what's happened to this story, universe, and franchise. They liked it the way that it was. The women who love Star Wars have noped out right along with us. I don't think that Disney can fix this, and at this point, I hope that they don't try. But they can never take away the originals from us. That wasn't Han Solo in Force Awakens, that wasn't Leah, and that wasn't Luke Skywalker in the Last Jedi. Disney's skinwalker substitutes can't replace my childhood memories of pretending to be Luke with my whiffleball bat. May the Force be with you.
I just find it ironic how Kennedy's one quote came right before Rogue One came out. After all, Kennedy herself barely had any involvement with that movie and that still is legitimatly good.
I will never let this go: Before 7 came out i was, of course, excited like everyone else. “Oh boy! New Star Wars” we all said. After I’d seen it, and had been thoroughly disappointed, I heard a group of guys talking about how they loved it (which disappointed me even more. The only way someone could enjoy it was by shutting off their thinking organ) and how much they were looking forward to 8. When they asked me about it I told them straight up that 7 sucked (because it did) and that the films following it would be just as bad if not worse and they all looked at me like I was insane. Look at where we are now. Y’know I don’t have a god complex or anything but I sure would, if only one time, run into someone I gave a prophetic warning to (and there’s been quite a few of those over the last decade) and hear them say that I was right. Just once.
That was my experience. Watching The Force Awakens I was thinking:"This garbage isn't Star Wars." Surprisingly everyone around me seemed to enjoy it. I never bothered watching TLJ or ROS after that and still haven't. That night I felt I was a lone dissenter. But I was soon to discover there were many others
My opinion on the film was "Okay, that is a pretty rough start, especially the script. But they've got a chance to polish their work and recover." The instant I finished 'the last jedi' I knew they were never going to do anything but scorched earth the entire universe. I said my goodbyes then and moved on.
Even with no films coming out ,the early and mid-90's now seem like an amazing period for SW ,with so many great novels and games being released. A golden age compared to Disney SW.
Starwars without any leading men is a goner. KK is making sure the only men in her version are unimportant, stupid, goofy or evil. Women are the only ones that are perfect and know everything and get jedi powers magically without having to put any effort into it. That is why it is a dead franchise and failing.
About a year and a half ago -- went to galaxy's edge in Orlando with my wife and kids. The longest most enthusiastic line I saw ... was when a random dude (not an employee) came in with some excellent cosplay of Luke Skywalker in his black suit w green lightsaber. Spontaneously people started lining up to take pictures with him. ..... a random fan dressed like Luke.
The last Jedi was the last Star Wars for me. After that I didn’t care for Disney StarWars any more or any of their shows. They brought this on them self by trying to get ride of their loyal fans and keep calling us ism.
After Last Jedi when we were walking out my brother in law said, "That was great!" My response was, "They pissed on your shoes and told you it was raining." I swore they wouldn't get another dime from me. F Disney and KK
I'm one of the OG female Star Wars fans. I loved the original movies. Us girls were represented just fine in them. But I have tried to watch the Disney ones & they are terrible. I haven't been able to finish any of them. The message is more important to Lucasfilm than writing interesting characters or stories. I think all of us just want some great storytelling like back in the day because it's a Space Opera. You're right, it needs men again. Men who write great stories and aren't arsed about 'the activism'.
I mean, even more than it has already been? And, let's not forget, Marvel as well. It will get so bad, we might reach a point stores might outright reject toys from both Star Wars and Marvel. There are stores that still have Disney Trilogy stuff, and even at discount, they can't sell it. It's time to give the power back to the real fans.
Our family now does what was once unthinkable... we go all the way to Orlando and spend a nice 3-5 days at Universal Studios. We might hit Downtown Disney while we're in town, but we don't even give Disney World itself a second thought.
The original vision started with a traditional male role model hero. It also started with a princess in need of help. Then it threw in an unexpected love triangle and a splattering of side characters... And finally, it had, not one, but TWO amazing villains. They were evil men, not sympathetic flawed people to sympathize with, but designed to be feared and cheered against. To continue a vision successfully started with a man's brain requires a man's brain. Men and women are different down to thought patterns. Honestly , women can have input and Marcia Lou Lucas may have enabled the success of Star Wars, but the story was in George's mind. Women often make life more palatable.
It still leaves me wondering how Lucas did not know what kind of person Kennedy is? Was she incredibly good at hiding it, or was he too dumb to notice?
I don’t think he was too dumb to notice, I think she was just very, very good at hiding her true intentions. It’s heartbreaking that George authored Palpatine’s rise to power as a cautionary tale yet in real life, there was someone close to him utilising similar tactics. I feel really sorry for George, I think he trusted her to look after his baby and she betrayed him. 😔
It makes more sense that Kennedy and crew shunned the volunteers that helped with making Force Awakens; particularly with the robotics, when Last Jedi was being made. Most of that group were men. Also they were trying to prevent plot leaks regarding how bad the film was. My daughter who loved the original series and thought the prequels were meh did not like the female driven Force awakens that much and hated Last Jedi so she didn't even go see Rise of Palpatine. I've said before that I feel sorry Daisy Ridley, John Boyega and Kelly Marie Tran because there used to be a prestige to working on a Star Wars film. Instead they got saddled with terrible scripts with KK's agenda and Ruin Johnson's directing. Last Jedi should never have been made and certainly did not deserve the box office it received. I think the next KK star wars film will have Daisy Ridley teaching her new Jedi that the Sith are really misunderstood and need to go to anger management classes.
That’s how it seems. Jedi will be “forced” to attend special re-education courses run by the sith to teach them how they’re the bad guys for calling the sith the bad guys.
I was a lifelong diehard Star Wars fan but I walked away forever after The Last Jedi. I don't care what they do with it from now on. I'm done and there is nothing they can do to get me back. As far as I'm concerned they can launch a new Star Wars Trilogy starring Dylan Mulvany. It's over. Disney can eat shit.
prequels were still part of George's story, written n created by him. love em or hate em, the prequels are still OG starwars. that makes 6 starwars films.
@@Jhunta Completely agree, The prequels get so much hate and I honestly dont get why. Sure there are problems with them, hell there are problems with return of the jedi.. They still created a fantastic universe that was a fitting continuation of georges story. Gave us some of the most amazing soundtracks, video games, TV shows, and toys to ever exist in the universe. The clone wars in particular always stirred so much interest in me as a kid, all the unique planets, vehicles, starships, jedi, battles, so many interesting scenarios. It was an amazing time to grow up. Podraces, duel of the fates, battlefront 1 and 2, geonosis battle, yoda vs duku, SW republic commando, mustafar showdown, order 66, jango vs obi wan. that WAS my childhood.
@@johnsullivan937 u just listed my younger years. all of that, 100%. and I particularly loved ep.2 as it gave the missing context to how the emperor seized control of everything and eliminated the jedi. also, those video games you mentioned, each one, excellent!
Some other 1980's Sci-Fi with "staying power": Star Trek, Dr. Who, and Bablyon-5 (this one less than the first two ... I'm going to get hate replies for this). The first two have gone the way of Star Wars (marketing to a tiny demographic). 7:28 - So, KK did come out like the VP of Marketing for Bud Light and say something like: "We want to get away from our loyal cohort of customers/fans (i.e., men), and market to a new segment." KK: "Make it Lame!"
Star wars has spend what like a decade now telling men to get lost? And they did. So now the franchise is crashing and burning what a shock. Why are men so demonized in this modern world? Why can't we have our hobbies and fandoms, and be left alone to enjoy what we enjoy? There is nothing wrong with being a male or loving male stuff. Men, you are not toxic and society would collapse without you. Men are awesome.
Are you telling me that a multi billion dollar company who paid 4 billion on this franchise doesn’t understand basic concepts about interest demographics or marketing to that demographic to make money? What crazy town are we living in?
They understand these concepts. They just think that they are wrong, and instead, insert their political ideologies of how men and women are really exactly the same, so they will like the same stuff.
@@travisstoneham5656 Nah, not misunderstanding, so much as it's intellectual dishonesty. There is a difference, and I think that it's important to note.
They understand... but they don't CARE. Boob Eegor packed the board with his puppets... and have very little stock among all of them, so they don't really care what happens to the company... no matter what, they still get their own paychecks. Ditto for all the activists inside the company with their not-so-secret agendas. Disney only exists to serve them as their own personal pulpit... while getting their salaries. As for Boob Eegor, his massive freaking ego can't stand the notion that he made a mistake.
At this point.... loving Star Wars feels like being in an abusive relationship. You hold onto the good parts of the past, to get you thru the present, and you try not to think about the future.
I'm too young to have experienced the original trilogy in the theaters, but I can remember every Summer the Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi being TV events. I got my chance when the Special Editions were released in the 90s. I read Heir to the Empire at summer camp. I loved Star Wars. When I look at what has been done I am sad and angry at the same time. It sucks I will not be able to introduce Star Wars to my son, only because I don't want him to share my sadness and anger.
If you remove the woke elements from what they are doing it wouldn't really be so bad. A great comparison is the Star Trek franchise: moving beyond Kirk/Spock/McCoy was a brilliant move with Next Generation. Roddenberry could have rebooted the series with new actors, but he didn't and it greatly expanded the Star Trek universe. Females? I liked Voyager. Janeway was female, but not woke, and making the captain female was a great way for the series to have its own vibe. The crew seemed like more of a family than other crews. Also Star Wars was already big with men, and since Disney is great for making girl-oriented fairy tales that appeal to a broad audience, a female Jedi could have vastly expanded the fan base. Had Rey been more of a flawed character like Sarah Michelle Geller's Buffy Sommers then it might have worked well, but they went the woke Mary Sue route instead where she knew everything and all the men were belittled.
I might be one of the few who saw the writing on the wall when that deal was signed and I avoided any thing Disney Star Wars related ever since. Friends of mine thought I was insane when I said that The Force Awakens was a straight up cash grab, at best but even didn't think it would go straight into the toilet like this.
The problem is, for someone who sees everything in the perspective of power, something that is not a 50-50 split means only one thing, discrimination. They (KK and her ilk) saw Star Wars and how it was loved predominantly by men and insanely thought of it as some sort of evil discrimination towards women that needed to be fight.
Catering to the 5 percent to alienate 95 percent of the audience destroyed the franchise.
exactly!
Bingo
It is truly unfnbelievable what these utter morons did and continue to do.
5 percent ? Disney wishes there are 5 percent.
Was it even 5% though?
George made a terrible mistake trusting Kathleen Kennedy.
well the force is male but the dark side is female and jorge got blinded by darth mama Kathleen Kennedy
He took a 20B check home, you really think he was going to say no I'd rather not have money to preserve Star Wars - the same guy that added silly 3D CGI stuff to the old movies to sell new copies of them?
George did the equivalent of Jar Jar giving Palpatine emergency powers
@@ElKabong3345😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@piccolo1906 Tin Foil Hat Time: Is it possible he sold it, knowing KK would drive it into the dirt, so later he could buy it back for pennies on the dollar??? [I luv a good conspiracy theory .... so maybe it was NOT a "Terrible mistake" but a well planned strat to milk it, and sell it again, later on]
To every studio who wants the Star Wars IP, Rule #1: NEVER disrespect Luke Skywalker.
yep and that why the last Jedi broke the fandom. It would been better if wrote that he crashed land on the planet and stuck there.
Or Han Solo
Rule #2 - NEVER let neo feminists run the IP 😅
No one disrespect Luke Skywalker. Vader, on the other hand. 😢
When the First Order had their walkers arrayed against the doors of the Resistance stronghold... How better to show actual resistance than for Luke to swoop down in an X-Wing, fire off his torpedo's, eject and slam his Xwing into the side of another, swing on a wire to cut the front legs of one before landing atop another and slicing his way inside etc... Just go ham on what a Jedi Master can do to an unsuspecting army.
Instead we got Luke Forcing so hard he went all Kevin Smith after a good cry and fading into nothing. If TLJ has to exist I'll take the FilmFix edit over RJ's. It may not fix all the problems, but it sure shows RJ needed his own Marcia Lucas to pull his work out of the mire RJ put it into.
I remember my mother took me to see Star Wars in 1997. She thought it was boring and fell asleep. I asked her why she took me to see it if she thought it was boring. She said, "I knew you would like it."
Thanks, mom.
Star Wars without men is basically the WNBA.
Accurate af
Now, that's cruel! Chortle chortle.
they can fly now.!!!???
Nothing else can be that bad.
Hahaha 😆
Who ever is running Lego is fuckin' smart. They're like, "if you want Star Wars Lego out there, then we're making the sets WE want."
You know Lego aren't allowed to talk about it but they did a study trying to figure out why they could sell to boys but not girls. Turns out they play different. Boys pick up Batman and they become Batman, girls pick up Batman and Batman becomes them. That's when theybstarted releasing the "lifestyle" sets for girls. Lego knows Boys want to be Luke and Han and that girls do not.
LEGO also know that the Star Wars license was the thing that saved their company when it was going broke. They release mostly PT & OT sets because that's what sell but they are two different markets. The guys that buy the PT sets, they are building out their clone armies and they love their mini fig armies. They mostly want that scale sets. The people mostly buying the OT stuff they really like the big elaborate, highly detailed expensive sets that are the Ultimate Collector Series.
@@lordcarnorjax8599 and no one wants anything NT.
@@danielcraig9666 that's very interesting, I didn't know that
Kennedy didn't just remove men from the Star Wars screen, she also removed men from the audience. At minimum that eliminated 50% of the revenue--but the reality is closer to 90% due to social reasons.
She also removed women who liked Han Solo and Luke Skywalker.
Women are 51% of the population, and most , not all, hate Star Wars, Disney will make them like it or choke on it by shoving it down their throats with every vile, hateful, woke idea they can conceive. Hope Disneys plan works, cause no straight male is going to be there to get cucked.
What are you even talking about loool. Recent shows with male leads: Mandalorian, Boba Fett, Obi-Wan, Andor, Bad Batch
Even the sequel trilogy had 4 leads (Rey, Finn, Ben, Poe) and 3 of the 4 are men.
I'm a guy myself but why do you feel threatened, I don't get it.
@@qwertyvypez😅😅 silly bot 😅😅
@@qwertyvypez you are seriously going to say that after what they've done to the Mandalorian? It's the perfect example.. it started off that way and was popular. Then they denigrated him and played up a female as the lead who doesn't even wear a Helmut all the time. Now it's dropping in popularity and profitability.
Couldn't say about Andor. Hear it's dystopic but well made but didn't watch it and there isn't much social media on it.
I am super old and was around when the original Star Wars came out. I then spent 40 something years being called first a "virgin living in mums basement", then a "manchild" by these very people that now have hijacked my hobbies and are telling me that they are no longer for me. We had plenty of girls along side us loving comics and games and nerd stuff. None of them want this change either, they loved these things because of what they were.
Yup. As a women I can confirm. I hate what’s happening to Star Wars. When I watched movies 1-6 I never once thought “oh we need more women”.
Yep. I don't want these changes.
Never going to understand these studios outright rejecting - and even mocking - what has been their core audience for 50 years... The 'Modern Audience' doesn't love anything, they only hate. They don't build anything, they only destroy and then move on. They care about the narrative, the social and political goals and could honestly care less about the product itself. Disney is doing far greater damage than they are willing to admit, because they aren't just leaving the current generational fans behind, they're severing that generational connection - kids who WOULD have grown up raised on Star Wars (and then raised THEIR kids on it and so on) will instead consider it a footnote in cinema history.
You must understand, you're dealing with a religion, one that is more fanatical then ISIS and just as malicious. Even if they can't get that mythical new unicorn audience they chase after, just knowing that they ruined it for you, a white man (I assume, as they do) is all the motivation they need. This cult is so batsh1t insane it makes Tom Cruise's Scientology look sane in comparison.
Absolutely Ellis! I fully agree!
Arrogance. That's all it is. They're arrogant midwit fools who think they can do better than their predecessors despite having none of the talent, skills or sanity.
They think there’s this phantom audience that agrees with their agenda and wants this when really it’s just bitter old cat ladies like Kathleen Kennedy (I say this as a cat owner but the cats being put in marvel was so dumb)
The man-hating of extreme intersectional feminism creates a powerful religious fervour in its supporters, and they think that their cause is so holy and righteous that it is destined to succeed. No matter the significantly male-leaning demographics stacked against them, because reality be damned.
LucasFilm's goals aren't commercial - they're ideological. Success for them lies in hiring and casting people with high intersectional value, telling stories that align with far-left ideals, and then claiming victimhood when people show no interest. Wash-Rinse-Repeat. They look at their diminishing box office performance as evidence of patriarchal dominance which motivates them to repeat this strategy - "There's still so much work to do."
They can continue like this as long as they want. With that strategy they have already lost before they begin.
@@CormathIrecar Do you really think that there are no alternatives in leisure? There are infinite. The problem with these evil people is that they are overconfident about the lives they live and believe they are gods. But from the heights the vertigo is greater. Just because they think they can doesn't mean they will achieve it. In fact, they are not achieving it. They themselves admit it: "There is still a lot of work." What I read there is frustration. They can spend their whole lives trying, but they are not going to succeed, and they know it. That's why they continue to press, because in their excess of vanity they want everything to be as they say. They are evil people. But Tolkien already said it: "Evil cannot create, only corrupt." You cannot go against the nature of things and break the natural course of events. If you do, be aware of the consequences. What have they really achieved? Rejection by the general public. Yes, it is true that they stain things. Star Wars is tainted, but we will always have the classic trilogy, and the EU. They can't change that. Exactly the same thing happens with LOTR: Peter Jackson's trilogy is wonderful and the books are a delight. The true objective of these individuals is to attack weak and malleable minds. And they can achieve it. But the rest of us will fight back while we can. Always.
@@CormathIrecar i read this, then i cried in craigs voice from southpark.
@@AUC.90s whoosh!
@@CormathIrecar left wing politics is a death cult. they eventually move on to destroying people.
Me being a woman, I get really mad when women think they need to steal every male-led story to make it "for women" 🙄 like, stop.
Same here, so over it
Especially when they think we only want female leads because we are incapable of identifying with a male lead. Like no? I am very fine with both genders and i dont need a mary sue to feel good about myself
WORD. I've been a fan since a kid in the 80's. As a female and now in my 40's, I'm living out my childhood dream of being a stormtrooper, Princess Leia, a jawa... for the kids I costume for during community and charity events. Star Wars is male dominated yes, but women are very much a part since the very beginning.
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.” JRR Tolkien.
And you know they'd get mad if they took something female-led and tried making it for men. Let's se how well that works with something like Barbie or Sex and the City.
15 years working with children here. Young girls in general are NOT into Star Wars or superheroes. They are into fairies, princesses and unicorns.
It's just how it is, regardless of whether Disney want it otherwise.
unicorns, yes....
those horses with phallic symbols on their foreheads who only want virgin girls.
nothing to see here, move on....
as a dad I completely agree, girls hate Star Wars.
And the girls who like Star Wars do it it because it's more targeted to boys.
Disney wants to fix the problem that never existed in the first place, creating more problems that weigh them down further.
You are a correct and of course there are exceptions to the rule. I was so into Star Wars /Star Trek from age 8 in 1977, collected merchandise from that age BUT I still played with my barbie dolls. That said, Star Wars should be a boy brand and this force female concept is off putting and nonsense, in my eyes. It has destroyed Star Wars
A lot of women are done with Star Wars also. What girl or woman didn't crush on Luke, Han, or even prequel Obi-Wan and Anakin? Both men and women were characters with substance - showing hardship, and hard fought victories.
That's really a point more YT critics should bring up! Many women do in fact like men, and like to see them in movies. Though it must be hard for ones like Kennedy to understand.
I definitely want to see strong, cool men in Star Wars and not some weak losers, yuk.
@@teijaflink2226 same
A hot guy with charism and there would be more women in theater. Hard for them but reality. Feminism is important but it's boring in pop culture.Except good writting like Buffy, Alien or Kill Bill. The SW Disney has nothing like that. And more important, good feminist character never hate men in pop culture. Alchemy between feminists characters and men makes them humans and endearing. Nothing like a solo Mary Sue without emotion.
@@EricDuchaux👍
Without men, Star Wars is dead! Without families, the Bob Iger Co is dead!
Star Wars has been dead ever since George sold it. *LEARN TO FACE REALITY!*
Star Wars is now a zombie franchise.
Gen Z: The Incel Generation
I’m praying for both 😅
Without respect we reject.
Men are tired of feminist propaganda on all fronts. We are moving on and I applaud it. Go ahead women, do it all on your own. We have more time for other things. Anything but media and entertainment.
And without women at all going by some studies.
There are good women that reject feminism out there. We just have to be clear as about what we want@@Senkoau
Do remember, though, that it's not all women.... it's the crazy men hating feminists. I'm on the female side of this equation and I think a lot of fellow women have gone stark raving mad.
Back in the 80's when the Disney Stores were in every mall you could not find a boys toy. It was all girls toys and clothings. At one point they sold power ranger toys to at least have some boy stuff. Star Wars was always assumed to be juggernaut that would never end. Disney found a way to kill it. Still incredible to watch this and see how much they went out of there way to kill it
In the 90s they had bugs taz marvin and interactive displays, and a tiny section for other ip.
The reason why Force Awakens managed to make so much money is not because of how good it was (corporate rehash) but it shows how much fans wanted a new mainline Star Wars movie.
The German word Schadenfreude is the best way to describe my feelings: they threw away the entire old EU and now their Post-ROTJ canon is a dead-end because of the incompetence of Kathleen Kennedy
And also because of the incompetence of Jar jar abrams, the franchise destructor (Star Trek and Star Wars).
Star Wars died in 2012. We just didn't realize it until 2017.
More like until 2015 when that garbage TFA came out.
try 1997. it was all over then.
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I realised it half way through Farce awakens.
Uh, I realized that it was dead when Disney bought it. I knew they would run it into the ground with subpar material. No one could have foreseen just how bad it would be, though, with all of the feminist trash. I never spent a penny on Disney Star Wars. I was and still am perfectly content with George Lucas and his 6 episode saga.
I want to remind everyone of how fans celebrated Disney and said that the new management would save Star Wars from George Lucas. Many of you were Lucas hating a$$holes and you all got what you wanted. Well, it blew up in your collective faces. It is worth reminding a lot of you just how much of a role you played to start with in the destruction of Star Wars. I remember how awful many of you fans used to be.
It died in 2003 with Revenge of the Sith
Star Wars was released in 1977, at the right time at the right moment when this country was still reeling in the aftermath of both the Watergate Scandal and the Vietnam war. It bought everyone and everybody together young, old, black and white, male and female. They were black, Latino and female Star Wars fans back in the 70s 80s and the 90s,thanks to the success of Star Wars in movies, TV, comic books, novels, and games which gave birth to the expanded universe.
Watergate scandal was nixon getting caught looking for evidence that jfk was assed by the cia.
@@HANKHILLFORTXGOVERNOR he’s also the one who finally got america out of vietnam.
“Star Wars” is the best of the franchise like “James Bond 007” did. The “James Bond” series had so many movies back in the 1960’s, 1970’s, 1980’s, 1990’s and the 2000’s.
Was a huge Star Wars fan. Stopped watching after the second Rey movie and never came back.
Wise decision. I didn't and went through the infamous episode IX. It was an ordeal. I left the movie theater vowing to never return to Star Wars.
I tapped out after episode VII. "I already saw this story done better by some guy back in the 70s."
You should stop watching after The (stupid) Farce Awakens.
Precisely. Me....
They are the only star wars movies I never bothered to watch again!
It's the same for women's sports: Many women also like watching sports... But they would rather watch MEN'S sports...
Many women like nerd stuff... THE WAY IT WAS.
They say "Star Wars was always for everyone!" and they are right. Star Wars WAS for everyone. Nowadays Star Wars isn't for anyone at all.
It was mainly for boys and there was nothing wrong with that. It was a boys brand. The few women and girls that watched it knew that it was a male centric action adventure franchise and had no problem with it. It wasn't created to be an intersectional feminist platform.
i got into an argument with someone from i think it was the 501st on facebook one time about how star wars needs to be more inclusive with lgbt and other bs and my question was, it has always been inclusive, show me proof how it was never inclusive and they couldnt prove it to me, i ended up getting banned from their facebook page lol
You are so right.
@@rpgadventurer32 Bingo
@@luke9511 Oh my god....I don't get why some fans want to make it all about LGBT etc? It has nothing to do with Star Wars.
Why is Disney so afraid of the Phallus? I swear Iger must pee sitting down.
It's actually better for men to sit when peeing it's part 1 of 3 things that can prevent men from getting certain types of cancer.....
The “women who (actually) love Star Wars, of which I happen to be” DO NOT LOVE THIS CRAP THEY HAVE BRANDED AS STAR WARS”. Just because we are women does not mean we don’t love it for the same reasons as everyone else, (you know, like men…). The hero’s journey is traditional, and speaks to something in all of us; I like to think its aspiration and hope: that we all face great obstacles and tribulations, and though it may not seem as momentous as a hydra, or an evil galactic empire, our supreme efforts and particular God-given gifts will help us prevail where others couldn’t. Or perhaps that we were destined for greater things, or any number of other positive, inspirational ideas that can push us to be better people.
I find even people who are aware of the divisive nature of the message promoted by pop culture and the government, men in particular, still “cowed” by the message all the same. One does not have to be a man or woman to identify with a basic idea. Along this same line of thought, these same people, despite being able to be divided into subgroups, don’t require a SPECIAL depiction of race or gender to relate to it; I’d argue that the best stories could be told with any race or gender in the primary roles & it wouldn’t change the message or feeling it gives in the least, unless the race or gender IS the story, and therein lies the problem with entertainment for the last decade. Attempting to disguise a social message in the guise of a popular franchise doesn’t fool anyone any more than a wolf wearing fake glasses with a fake nose & mustache fools the sheep. Trends are common in Hollywood, but trends last a season or a year; what we’ve seen is a concerted attempt to program public thinking over a decade. And lately, they” (Hollywood executives) have just started saying it aloud (for complete arrogance & confidence that there is nothing anyone can do): WE are the problem, and WE need to change how we think.
Anyway, preaching to the choir, I know… but one can’t shout this message loud enough, or frequently enough. It’s damaged our culture and, ultimately, done a lot to destabilize the world (IMHO)… but you aren’t a political channel. Godspeed.
Well said, milady!
Please Disney make this Rey movie and get this shit over with. I can not wait to see how much money they can hemorrhage. Fuck Disney Star Wars R.I.P. Star Wars 2012.
The day Disney goes bankrupt all Star Wars fans will celebrate like the rebels in the end of return of the jedi.
50y old. Started to check out after TLJ. Fortunately I saw it for free as I was “trooping” in my TK armour to promote the film for the cinema. Love the originals… even found new love for the prequels but having watched Ashoka (my kid loved rebels growing up) I’ve just given up. The Zahn books were my lifeline and return to SW in the early 90’s. When reading them you could hear John Williams music in your head. What they did to Thrawn, one of the most perfectly written intelligent bad guys in a live action show was painful to watch and the nail in the coffin.
The failure of the force is female.
My first introduction to Star Wars was the Thrawn trilogy, before I ever heard of the movies. T. Zahn just wrote pure gold and it should have been a template for either the sequel trilogy or leading to it.
What a wasted potential... 😮
Most of us went to see those films because we wanted to see Luke Leia and Han and chewy and we were tricked into seeing the last Jedi because we still wanted to see Luke and then it was over
Also a new generation of characters that were mentored by them.
The Last Jedi was a very strange film for me. I actually felt crushed leaving the cinema.
@@rmmj7james293Oh God, that's awful. They've taken away something so beloved from a lot of us. I only consider the original 6 to be Star Wars, I've tried to watch the new ones & cannot make it through to the end.
@@StevieZala yeah, I mean we all have seen a trash movie, right? But I guess Star Wars must have meant something to me when I saw the first one at 7yrs back in '77 that really took a hit with what that Johnson guy dud. And yes, the first 3, the prequels and maybe the first 2 series of the Mandelorian, maybe
Yup
At 62 years old, female in the real sense, I have loved Star Wars since they started in the 1970's. You had macho men and a fighting, feisty woman. You rarely went to a movie more than once back then, but I saw the first Episode twice. I still love what Star Wars started as. I'm sad over the direction it has gone, yet I remain hopeful that someday the real Star Wars will return and the past three movies were all a dream.😁
I completely agree with you
It's too late. They're committed to the course. To change would be to admit failure.
They're attempting to play the 5-year 10-year 15-year long game.
We're all forgetting the way feminism works - if they cannot convert they will destroy. Star Wars dead is a victory for them. They never loved it anyway.
Yes, feminism is a cancer.
Help us, Nelson Peltz, you're our only hope.
The one thing that most people don't seem to realize is just how little Star Wars Merch is selling these days.
Almost all the money is in the Merch. And Disney has pushed away nearly every fan that wanted to buy Merch.
Lego Star Wars is sill the top selling theme of Lego.👌🏻
@@marlonrvlogs and none of it is Disney era!
@@rudolphroy9795 i don't understand what you mean 🤨
Well-articulated and factually accurate. Disney and Lucasfilm under KK really screwed themselves doing what they did.
This will all be studied in film and business schools for decades.
"How to turn a multi billion dollar IP into dust, and bring your company down with it."
You know what women flocked to? Barbie! (Men did not flock to that movie)
You know what women aren’t flocking to? Female heavy Star Wars!
Take note Hollywood
Hollywood took note. They're just taking the wrong lessons from Barbie.
They seem deadset to continue with failure based on, at least in their view, an outlier.
I remember US EU fans funded a billboard in front of Lucasfilm to bring back the Expanded Universe.....it fell on deaf mouse ears. That should have been one of many signs.
Ah, the better timeline, the one where Luke, Han and Leia live into old age, have families. Luke actually succeeds in bringing back the Jedi, and their descendents are still around a century after they died off in the Disney timeline.
It's true. As a rule, a huge majority of women aren't interested in science fiction and fantasy or sports for that matter. I'm not saying all women, but most of them. These people trying to make women the focal point in these genres are preaching to a choir that doesn't exist. And men just aren't going to go for it. They can try to shove that crap down our throats, but men just aren't going to cooperate and will just pass on supporting it. I mean, how much more freaking evidence do they, need.
True. I adore LOTR but cant find 1 woman around me who likes it or is even interested in watching it.
@@svetlanaandrasova6086 Are you married? Asking for a friend. 😁
You are absolutely right. As a female I am an exception to the rule regarding Science Fiction and fantasy ( it all led me to having a Science/Medical degree) and got into Star Wars/Star Trek from the age of 8. However I am so over the focus of women, force is female concept ( really hate it) and Star Wars needs remain as a boy brand.
No matter what Disney trys to do to repair the damage that was 7 years too late it’s not gonna help them as we seen with the merchandise and toys sales that tells you where Star Wars is today.
Iger bought SW for the existing fans, but ended up using it for an experiment with social theory. Aka “My professor said there are no differences between men and women interests that aren’t just social programming so we can just give girls SW and they’ll like it just as much”
Spot on. I watched Star Wars in the theater in 1977 and it changed my life. I am done
Lucas himself was always protective of his “baby” that is Star Wars. Even when securing the rights to make it back in the 70’s he always hated the idea of studio meddling. I always wondered and may have even scratched my head as to why he was ok to let Disney buy those same rights and IP.
At the time Disney was doing a good job with studios they had bought. Pixar had continued to deliver, and the MCU was beginning to warm up. I could understand Lucas believing the then Disney Company would be a good home. What he couldn't anticipate was the Iger Company entirely abandoning normal people. I do still wonder what was he thinking when he installed Kennedy? He must have known what kind of person she was.
@@FunPicard makes sense. By the time Lucas sold the rights Disney was a titan among titans. Success everywhere they went. Disney was like a giant King sitting upon a throne of Gold crafted by his loyal and loving subjects.
Now its a shell of its former self.
Well, you see, there's this island....
The Last Jedi was the last Star Wars thing I’ve watched. I won’t even pirate the stuff, however I feel the same about my dear old Star Trek and what that franchise has turned into.
I stick with the classics, anyway.
JJ is a corporate leach, while GL was a culture custodian. GL's vision wasn't to milk SW for everything it was worth... It was to build it and show his vision to the audience who responded by saying 'more'.
JJ, Iger and KK went into it to make money and I'm of two minds on RJ. On the one hand he killed SW... But seeing as what KK had in mind I wonder if it was a mercy killing that signaled for those who missed it in TFA that SW was indeed dead and KK was going to subvert it.
It's a rare instance where a Golden Raspberry award might have an element of positivity in ending peoples active fandom early before they could waste money on discovering what KK intended slow boil style.
Same here. In fact, I’ll stick to most IP’s classics.
If you want more women to your franchise or stories you do NOT get rid of the men, you keep them & perhaps even add more men! Yes, women as well, but absolutely men! I am a woman & have loved SW since I was a child. Of course I loved Leia, even identified with her. But my fav's was still Han & Luke! Always was & always will be. I am also a major Rambo fan. Yes, women can absolutely love characters in such classic action. Just because they are masculine men! I am also a deeply major Alien franchise fan & Ripley is one of the best characters ever put to film. But I am not just a fan of those films because of Sigourney Weaver. There are a lot of other characters surrounding Ripley in those films, both male & female, & I love them a lot, too. Plenty of eye candy as well as identification. James Bond has, just as SW, mostly been a male orientated franchise that also pulled a lot of female fans as well. That is because the male part of the audience fantasizes about being Bond himself while the female part wants to sleep with Bond! As you can imagine I also grew up with the Terminator films &, naturally, Sarah Connor is high up there. But the thing is... Arnold was also in those films! So was Michael Beihn whom I had a major crush on back in the day. Because he was a MAN! And now, let's look at the real Disney classics. All our animated Disney princesses. They all met a boy, fell in love & it all ends with happily ever after. That appeals to girls & women, hence why Disney once was the mega company that it now has decided not to be anymore. Because now their princesses, brand new or in their re-booted versions, don't meet boys & fall in love or need any man. And, what a surprise, the vast majority of the Disney princesses' stories now all fail commercially. Because girls & women have no reason to watch them. Because it's no longer stories about growing up & finding your place &, if lucky, finding your soul mate in life while it all happens in an entertaining adventure. Actual fairy tales. All that is destroyed & long gone. The desire & fantasy for fairy tales are not dead & would forever be commercial successes. But they are no longer fairy tales. They pretend to be but they are wolves in sheep's clothing. They are shallow & empty mystery boxes that never contained anything to begin with. And none of this sells, oh geez. What a mystery - NOT! When Peter Jackson's master piece LOTR came along there was a certain Orlando Bloom playing Legolas that gained a lot of swift fame already with the first film released. The vast majority of the fans that followed Bloom were in fact GIRLS! And they loved Orlando so much that they happily followed him into POTC as Will Turner, where the whole world finally fell in love with the marvelous Johnny Depp as Captain Jack Sparrow. In a DISNEY production, I wish to remind everyone! POTC had a huge female fan base as well as male & that as great as Kiera Knightley is as Elizabeth Swann most did not turn up for those films only because of her, regardless if it was a man or a woman. No. Men draw the huge audiences, that is just how it is. Women can absolutely draw the crowds, too. But regardless, it demands quality. And realistic common sense. History itself is full of examples; if the men are there the women will be, too. It was women that screamed with pleasure over the Beatles & Elvis. Women could centuries back not keep quiet in church because they worshiped the local preacher that was always a man back then. If you want a female audience, give us men! Because more than 95% of women are hetero & are therefor attracted to men. Women love to fantasize, including sexually fantasize, about the male characters, wishing we were the lucky female character that gets the male character. That is how it works, that is how all story telling has always worked. KK claims that I, as a woman, is unable to identify with male characters such as Han Solo & Luke Skywalker. She thinks that she is giving me a compliment or protecting me or something. But in reality, she is insulting me & all women who like male characters just as much as she insults men in general. Just because KK hates men & is unable to identify with male characters it doesn't mean that the rest of the female half of the global population shares her problem. Since I am a woman myself I already know how women think & feel, that is why I worship Ripley & Leia as long as they are written right & with respect. And the same reason as I am a woman it makes me more curious of men just because I don't really know how they think & feel BUT I can still imagine how it is like. I can still identify with them, as characters, as human beings or just beings. A trait that KK apparently totally lacks. If your business model if to sell a product = a story that appeals to the imagination & human emotions you better know how human emotions work, our dreams & desires, & also be very much aware of that men & women desire different things or the same things but in different ways. Up until now that never seemed to be a major problem. Yes, bad story telling has existed since the stone age but never before because of woke activism & an open discrimination against men in story telling. The day after I watched TLJ back in 2017 I was a zombie. I couldn't think, I just walked around at home like a living dead, trying to grasp what they had done to my dearly beloved Luke. My great hero & role model ever since I was a child. I will never forgive them for what they did. I was given a lot of hope back when Luke was allowed to return as his true self on Mandalorian but all that meaning & momentum is now all gone again. Replaced by boring female characters that don't even feel like actual women. I used to be able to identify with female characters. I no longer can. They don't represent me or anyone. Because they are not even characters. They are weapons, mere symbols of propaganda, in this SJW war on culture & entertainment. I haven't been to any movie theater in ages. Because they don't show anything I wanna see anymore. Why pay to see something that refuses to give me what I want = awesome characters in epic stories that I wanna see again & again for as long as I live? I want hot admirable MALE characters! Give me that & I will pay for the ticket. I might even buy the plastic toy & bring home instead of leaving it on the shelf like we all do now. We want quality, not quantity. We want men to be men & we want women to be women. Their color of their skin or sexuality is irrelevant.
My interest in SW has waned greatly over the past decade. My 10 yr old asked to watch Family Guy the other night show I showed him the Family Guy Star Wars episodes followed by some Robot Chicken Star Wars skits and those shows helped to revive my interest, even if it was just that one night. Family Guy and Rbot Chicken did Star Wars better than Disney's Lucasfilm.
The studio and the media focus too much on the box office returns. Star Wars survived years of movie drought due to merchandise. That is what keeps franchises alive. Without appealing stories and characters, no one buys merchandise between movies and shows.
They may focus on the box office returns, but not on the actual profitability of those returns. With 2 of the 4 movies having lost money. And the shows cost insane amounts of money for the actual return of investment
Very clearly and well laid-out, you gained a new subscriber.
The -force- _failure_ is female.
Use their marketing momentum against them. If they want to take ownership of this disaster, let them all share in the blame for ruining it. Great video, with a lot of relevant research to support your arguments. I just wish I could muster even the tiniest amount of energy to care about the schadenfreude of it all at this point. The apathy is real.
The Farce Awakens was written by a man, Abrams, the guy who destroyed Star Trek in 2009.
Thanks! VR, thank you. I’m an original Star Wars fan and I hate to see what has been done to the founding characters. When I complain I’m criticized by people who have no real interest in Star Wars but love to push woke. It’s truly nice to see someone who gets me.
But, it's more than that! Not only is there not enough women, there's a large percentage of women out there that also doesn't like what they did....original female fans of SW, and they also peaced out....I'm one of them.
Disney keeps trying to ignore those women's voices, but they can't ignore the lack of money they are getting from this. I am so pissed what they did to Star Wars, I refuse to offer a dime to Disney anymore, whether it be SW, Marvel, or their cartoons. I have a husband and two kids. They wont go either. Now you add that up to how many women they pissed off like me, add that to the men that also wont see this anymore. They may have lost up to 75% of their audience because of what they did.
It's no wonder they're so hesitant to make another movie. Because they know! They can pretend and preach all they want, but that's not going to bring them back.
Thanks!
Thank you!
I agree with Andre of Midnights Edge that the firing of Gena Carano killed Star Wars. It’s dead and there is no resurrecting it, even if it refocuses on a male audience.
Yeah. Apathy and disinterest is where most of us are. We're done.
Firing Gina killed a chance of resurecting the corpse.
Last Jedi killed it, Mando was resurecting the franchise.
It was dead before then... when The Last Jedi came out.
Sorry, the travesty known as TLJ was the turning point. The Mando series was initially a breath of fairly fresh air, and the Season 2 finale had a lot of us hoping things were gonna change. There were rumblings Dave and John were going to retcon the sequels with the World between Worlds but the BOBF and Mando S3 quashed that hope pretty well.
All of those videos showing fans’ live reactions to Mando S2 finale give a glimpse of what could’ve been for Disney if they hadn’t chosen to stab the fandom in the back.
I would submit that women DO love Star Wars, when it was the Star Wars they loved.
When Luke was brave, and hopeful and not an embittered old hermit ready to shank his nephew for being a little emo.
When Han was the best smuggler and astrogation pilot in the galaxy, brave and roguish and charming.
Kennedy and crew need to understand that men want to ne heroes and most women who havent bought into 3rd wave narcissism want to see heroic men.
It still baffles my mind how disney totally ruined that gold star money printing franchise in such a short time without any need. It is like they hate money and wan't to burn as much as possible.
Incompetence, political extremism, and a level of hubris not ordinarily seen outside of bad fiction.
The box office results from The Force Awakens gave them a false sense of security. They failed to realize that they could’ve showed a 2.5hr introduction crawl, and longing Star Wars fans still would’ve paid money to see it? Then they completely shyte the bed with the sequel, and it was all downhill ever since.
@@crazyralph6386 Yeah, episode 7 was "ok". The really were careful compared to 8. We could see some hints of the shitshow which had yet to come with episode 8. But i thought most of the time during 7, that episode 8 would explain why Rey is so super talented and super strong in the force without any training...but nope...simply a mary sue fan-fic.
@@elektronischemusik1903 looking at in hindsight, it still baffles me that they didn’t have a battle plan or story written for the entire trilogy? They just made shyte as they went along, which is so amateurish. George never would’ve done that.
There is also so much to unpack about the defaming of Gina Carano. A lot of unacceptable behaviour from Lucasfilm. The real reason was placating the preferred pronoun advocates. They could have been ignored entirely with no damage o Star Wars. Instead their "safe space" / control has been given priority and Star Wars has been taken from true Star Wars fans who liked it for its own sake as opposed to as a platform for The Message.
Thank you for voicing this fact that we apparently are not allowed to cover anymore! I forget what the source was but I saw a statistic that talked about when Bob Iger first purchased Star Wars, he outright stated that it had an audience of 96% boys! Who would have thought that women just aren't that interested in space battles and duels with Lazer swords lol! It's a tale as old as time! Since when have they ever?
I've read that the female audience is somewhere around 30% of the fandom. And even THEY can't stand what's happened to this story, universe, and franchise. They liked it the way that it was. The women who love Star Wars have noped out right along with us. I don't think that Disney can fix this, and at this point, I hope that they don't try.
But they can never take away the originals from us. That wasn't Han Solo in Force Awakens, that wasn't Leah, and that wasn't Luke Skywalker in the Last Jedi. Disney's skinwalker substitutes can't replace my childhood memories of pretending to be Luke with my whiffleball bat.
May the Force be with you.
I completely agree and I am one of those women who wants Star Wars to be like how it was ....a boy brand.
@@LaraA55Hell yeah, also your pfp looks like the IRL version of Juno Eclipse
One thing for sure when KK show true colors that she does not like men by hiring that activist director.
Thanks! Just FYI at the beginning of your video having the scene with the X-Wings felt more substantial than any CGI thing made in the past 25 years.
Good point!
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This would make a great case study in a MBA business class - failure of Disney.
I just find it ironic how Kennedy's one quote came right before Rogue One came out. After all, Kennedy herself barely had any involvement with that movie and that still is legitimatly good.
@WaltRight She didn't order any feminism to be put in the movie, though.
@WaltRight It's what I meant.
@@terrowle5682 I got it. Good one!
ROGUE. R - O - G - U - E.
Why is this such a difficult word for people, when it's literally IN THE TITLE.
@WaltRight Meh, I liked it. It's not absolute cringe like the sequel trilogy, it tries to actually be a good movie
I read or listed that KK convinced Lucas that she would carry on him vision. The first bait and switch.
I will never let this go:
Before 7 came out i was, of course, excited like everyone else. “Oh boy! New Star Wars” we all said. After I’d seen it, and had been thoroughly disappointed, I heard a group of guys talking about how they loved it (which disappointed me even more. The only way someone could enjoy it was by shutting off their thinking organ) and how much they were looking forward to 8. When they asked me about it I told them straight up that 7 sucked (because it did) and that the films following it would be just as bad if not worse and they all looked at me like I was insane. Look at where we are now.
Y’know I don’t have a god complex or anything but I sure would, if only one time, run into someone I gave a prophetic warning to (and there’s been quite a few of those over the last decade) and hear them say that I was right. Just once.
You were right. ✌️
That was my experience. Watching The Force Awakens I was thinking:"This garbage isn't Star Wars." Surprisingly everyone around me seemed to enjoy it. I never bothered watching TLJ or ROS after that and still haven't. That night I felt I was a lone dissenter. But I was soon to discover there were many others
My opinion on the film was "Okay, that is a pretty rough start, especially the script. But they've got a chance to polish their work and recover." The instant I finished 'the last jedi' I knew they were never going to do anything but scorched earth the entire universe. I said my goodbyes then and moved on.
Even with no films coming out ,the early and mid-90's now seem like an amazing period for SW ,with so many great novels and games being released. A golden age compared to Disney SW.
Starwars without any leading men is a goner. KK is making sure the only men in her version are unimportant, stupid, goofy or evil. Women are the only ones that are perfect and know everything and get jedi powers magically without having to put any effort into it. That is why it is a dead franchise and failing.
About a year and a half ago -- went to galaxy's edge in Orlando with my wife and kids. The longest most enthusiastic line I saw ... was when a random dude (not an employee) came in with some excellent cosplay of Luke Skywalker in his black suit w green lightsaber. Spontaneously people started lining up to take pictures with him. ..... a random fan dressed like Luke.
The last Jedi was the last Star Wars for me. After that I didn’t care for Disney StarWars any more or any of their shows. They brought this on them self by trying to get ride of their loyal fans and keep calling us ism.
"The last Jedi was the last Star Wars for me."
That makes at least two of us.
After Last Jedi when we were walking out my brother in law said, "That was great!"
My response was, "They pissed on your shoes and told you it was raining."
I swore they wouldn't get another dime from me. F Disney and KK
But... TLJ wasn't real Star Wars.
For me, it was Rogue One. Downhill from there.
I'm one of the OG female Star Wars fans. I loved the original movies. Us girls were represented just fine in them. But I have tried to watch the Disney ones & they are terrible. I haven't been able to finish any of them. The message is more important to Lucasfilm than writing interesting characters or stories. I think all of us just want some great storytelling like back in the day because it's a Space Opera. You're right, it needs men again. Men who write great stories and aren't arsed about 'the activism'.
I mean, even more than it has already been?
And, let's not forget, Marvel as well.
It will get so bad, we might reach a point stores might outright reject toys from both Star Wars and Marvel.
There are stores that still have Disney Trilogy stuff, and even at discount, they can't sell it.
It's time to give the power back to the real fans.
KK has been so brutal in the path she took that I can't help but believe that she HAAATES George Lucas, and wanted to destroy his legacy.
... They...don't...care....
Our family now does what was once unthinkable... we go all the way to Orlando and spend a nice 3-5 days at Universal Studios. We might hit Downtown Disney while we're in town, but we don't even give Disney World itself a second thought.
The original vision started with a traditional male role model hero. It also started with a princess in need of help. Then it threw in an unexpected love triangle and a splattering of side characters...
And finally, it had, not one, but TWO amazing villains. They were evil men, not sympathetic flawed people to sympathize with, but designed to be feared and cheered against.
To continue a vision successfully started with a man's brain requires a man's brain. Men and women are different down to thought patterns. Honestly , women can have input and Marcia Lou Lucas may have enabled the success of Star Wars, but the story was in George's mind. Women often make life more palatable.
It still leaves me wondering how Lucas did not know what kind of person Kennedy is? Was she incredibly good at hiding it, or was he too dumb to notice?
I don’t think he was too dumb to notice, I think she was just very, very good at hiding her true intentions. It’s heartbreaking that George authored Palpatine’s rise to power as a cautionary tale yet in real life, there was someone close to him utilising similar tactics. I feel really sorry for George, I think he trusted her to look after his baby and she betrayed him. 😔
It makes more sense that Kennedy and crew shunned the volunteers that helped with making Force Awakens; particularly with the robotics, when Last Jedi was being made. Most of that group were men. Also they were trying to prevent plot leaks regarding how bad the film was. My daughter who loved the original series and thought the prequels were meh did not like the female driven Force awakens that much and hated Last Jedi so she didn't even go see Rise of Palpatine. I've said before that I feel sorry Daisy Ridley, John Boyega and Kelly Marie Tran because there used to be a prestige to working on a Star Wars film. Instead they got saddled with terrible scripts with KK's agenda and Ruin Johnson's directing. Last Jedi should never have been made and certainly did not deserve the box office it received. I think the next KK star wars film will have Daisy Ridley teaching her new Jedi that the Sith are really misunderstood and need to go to anger management classes.
That’s how it seems. Jedi will be “forced” to attend special re-education courses run by the sith to teach them how they’re the bad guys for calling the sith the bad guys.
I was a lifelong diehard Star Wars fan but I walked away forever after The Last Jedi. I don't care what they do with it from now on. I'm done and there is nothing they can do to get me back. As far as I'm concerned they can launch a new Star Wars Trilogy starring Dylan Mulvany. It's over. Disney can eat shit.
It all ended with RotJ!😡
prequels were still part of George's story, written n created by him. love em or hate em, the prequels are still OG starwars. that makes 6 starwars films.
@@Jhunta Completely agree, The prequels get so much hate and I honestly dont get why. Sure there are problems with them, hell there are problems with return of the jedi.. They still created a fantastic universe that was a fitting continuation of georges story. Gave us some of the most amazing soundtracks, video games, TV shows, and toys to ever exist in the universe. The clone wars in particular always stirred so much interest in me as a kid, all the unique planets, vehicles, starships, jedi, battles, so many interesting scenarios. It was an amazing time to grow up. Podraces, duel of the fates, battlefront 1 and 2, geonosis battle, yoda vs duku, SW republic commando, mustafar showdown, order 66, jango vs obi wan. that WAS my childhood.
@@johnsullivan937 u just listed my younger years. all of that, 100%. and I particularly loved ep.2 as it gave the missing context to how the emperor seized control of everything and eliminated the jedi. also, those video games you mentioned, each one, excellent!
"Just ask Marvel" was the perfect way to end this slamming of the gavel video.
*The beginning of the end began in the year of 2012 by CEO Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy.*
There was a episode of the original Star Trek ,when Spock said that TV and Movies died out in the early part of the 21st century! I see why
Some other 1980's Sci-Fi with "staying power": Star Trek, Dr. Who, and Bablyon-5 (this one less than the first two ... I'm going to get hate replies for this). The first two have gone the way of Star Wars (marketing to a tiny demographic). 7:28 - So, KK did come out like the VP of Marketing for Bud Light and say something like: "We want to get away from our loyal cohort of customers/fans (i.e., men), and market to a new segment." KK: "Make it Lame!"
Disney failed to learn two things...
1. Go Woke, Go Broke.
2. With Out Respect, We Reject.
Star wars has spend what like a decade now telling men to get lost?
And they did. So now the franchise is crashing and burning what a shock.
Why are men so demonized in this modern world? Why can't we have our hobbies and fandoms, and be left alone to enjoy what we enjoy?
There is nothing wrong with being a male or loving male stuff. Men, you are not toxic and society would collapse without you.
Men are awesome.
This is the best analysis I have seen yet. I'm sharing it everywhere! Thank you for making this.
Are you telling me that a multi billion dollar company who paid 4 billion on this franchise doesn’t understand basic concepts about interest demographics or marketing to that demographic to make money? What crazy town are we living in?
They understand these concepts. They just think that they are wrong, and instead, insert their political ideologies of how men and women are really exactly the same, so they will like the same stuff.
We are telling you nothing. You can see it with your own eyes.
@@jeffrey1025 in other words they don’t understand or they would market to the bar graph higher on the chart 😂
@@travisstoneham5656 Nah, not misunderstanding, so much as it's intellectual dishonesty. There is a difference, and I think that it's important to note.
They understand... but they don't CARE.
Boob Eegor packed the board with his puppets... and have very little stock among all of them, so they don't really care what happens to the company... no matter what, they still get their own paychecks.
Ditto for all the activists inside the company with their not-so-secret agendas. Disney only exists to serve them as their own personal pulpit... while getting their salaries.
As for Boob Eegor, his massive freaking ego can't stand the notion that he made a mistake.
At this point.... loving Star Wars feels like being in an abusive relationship. You hold onto the good parts of the past, to get you thru the present, and you try not to think about the future.
Thank you for this video, you said what had to be said. Star Wars is for boys and Barbie is for girls. Each has its captive audience.
I'm too young to have experienced the original trilogy in the theaters, but I can remember every Summer the Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi being TV events. I got my chance when the Special Editions were released in the 90s. I read Heir to the Empire at summer camp. I loved Star Wars. When I look at what has been done I am sad and angry at the same time. It sucks I will not be able to introduce Star Wars to my son, only because I don't want him to share my sadness and anger.
If you remove the woke elements from what they are doing it wouldn't really be so bad. A great comparison is the Star Trek franchise: moving beyond Kirk/Spock/McCoy was a brilliant move with Next Generation. Roddenberry could have rebooted the series with new actors, but he didn't and it greatly expanded the Star Trek universe.
Females? I liked Voyager. Janeway was female, but not woke, and making the captain female was a great way for the series to have its own vibe. The crew seemed like more of a family than other crews.
Also Star Wars was already big with men, and since Disney is great for making girl-oriented fairy tales that appeal to a broad audience, a female Jedi could have vastly expanded the fan base. Had Rey been more of a flawed character like Sarah Michelle Geller's Buffy Sommers then it might have worked well, but they went the woke Mary Sue route instead where she knew everything and all the men were belittled.
It’s like they’re purposely trying to trash the franchise.
When Luke left........so did I. 😐
There is a good old saying about sawing off the branch you're sitting on, and I think it applies here too.
The Force is Castrated.
Your Barbie comparison is made funnier by Ken being the best thing about the film anyway (plus his Oscar nom)
I might be one of the few who saw the writing on the wall when that deal was signed and I avoided any thing Disney Star Wars related ever since. Friends of mine thought I was insane when I said that The Force Awakens was a straight up cash grab, at best but even didn't think it would go straight into the toilet like this.
Last money I spent on something Disney was the Rogue One DVD. I completely turned against Disney after the firing of Gina Carano.
Valliant, why did you move last nights stream to Members Only so fast? It was already there this morning at 7 a.m., so I couldn't finish it!
If I'm not mistaken lea was a leader and princess of the Rebel alliance! Sigourney weaver fought aliens side by side with men
The problem is, for someone who sees everything in the perspective of power, something that is not a 50-50 split means only one thing, discrimination. They (KK and her ilk) saw Star Wars and how it was loved predominantly by men and insanely thought of it as some sort of evil discrimination towards women that needed to be fight.
Star Wars used to be said in the same sentence as the word "Legacy". Now, it's said with "failure" or "disappointment".