High Elfs vs Grand Cathay - 10:40 Warriors of Chaos vs Kislev - 48:50 Greenskins vs Kislev - 1:23:00 High Elves vs Khorne - 1:58:25 Semis - 2:30:40 Finals - 2:59:20
Love how often you run these - they always teach me so much, despite me not actually playing multiplayer. Have you ever considered running a tournament where everyone locks in one army and one BUILD for the whole tournament? Would be pretty neat to see how well-rounded people make their armies when you know you have to use the same composition for every battle.
I really love how the Bloodwake Berserkers have Tyrion-level stats. It gives me hope that we might see Depth Guard and Blood Knights changed to reflect their vampire nature as well.
Seeing that TOW store page as someone who had been collecting since the early 90s is depressing. A command group blister used to set you back £4-6 and now they're after £34. A single unit of goblins sets you back more than a batallion with 4 units used to, and I'd be curious as to if they came with the mountain of plastic multiparts that filled up conversion supplies or if they'd been trimmed down severely. There's inflation and then there's absolute nonsense. Sometimes I'm almost glad they took the franchise out back and shot it, just because it made my mind up for me.
10:30 High Elves vs Cathay 48:50 Warriors of Chaos vs Kislev 1:23:05 Greenskins vs Kislev 1:59:10 Khorne vs High Elves 2:30:40 Beastmen vs Vampire Counts 2:59:20 High Elves vs Beastmen
Love your content! I take it you don't watch your own replays so I just wanted to mention that your mangler quigs tend to fight on top of your own infantry and just nuke your own units on death (RIP Blackorcs). Super fun stuff and classic Greenskin :)
Turin my man, love the tournaments as always. Though I'm curious if you have any plans to stream that tower defense game. Was quite interesting to watch
Never played a high elf v Cathay. Think jet lion would be good cause I usually see lari or teclis for high elves. But either way I think that wrecking their magic would be fun. Also wonder if bringing saytang putting him in the front to bait focus fire and then casting missile mirror would be really good, cause he’s such a juicy target
@@Patic234It's necessary to keep things competitive, otherwise mortal units would be at a huge disadvantage compared to undead/demons because they need to rout all the way off the map instead of disintegrating
eh, being fed into halberds + shooting "so that the blast will do some damage" is the definition of a bad fight, and not reflective of their performance. But I do somewhat agree, I haven't seem them do better than decent since the nerfs. Maybe they could use a buff. IMO rather than bumping up the stats to make them better grind fighters, they should get and active ability vortex centered on the models where they just twirl super fast and do AOE damage ;)
Turin, have you ever thought about changing unit stats in side of your total tavern mod pack instead of pissing on every single player campaign game? You fuck with my campaign every patch. I'm getting really tired of you pining for nerfs of anything you can't deal with in pvp.
The nerfs that are needed for pigback/tusk are cost increases, they will have no bearing on your campaign. Other than that, units that receive nerfs typically vastly outclass units in their similiar class, which makes for a more balanced campaign...granted, campaign balance is a bit of meme anyways, and goes out the window with a few talents/upgrades. Also, yes, I call for nerfs as well as buffs to bad units, but there are many others via community balance doc/other MP folks that CA draws even more heavily from. Cheers, happy new years!
Im so glad whenever I watch VC lose. Especially to beastmen. I absolutely despise that faction lmao. So awful to fight against and has exactly ONE(1) playstyle. Gee, I wonder if the mordis engine will be in this game like it is in every single game Vampire Counts have ever been in.
High Elfs vs Grand Cathay - 10:40
Warriors of Chaos vs Kislev - 48:50
Greenskins vs Kislev - 1:23:00
High Elves vs Khorne - 1:58:25
Semis - 2:30:40
Finals - 2:59:20
Everyone salute this Sigmar male for his holy work
Sigmar bless you
lemme watch a stream damnet
You are a hero!
Love how often you run these - they always teach me so much, despite me not actually playing multiplayer.
Have you ever considered running a tournament where everyone locks in one army and one BUILD for the whole tournament?
Would be pretty neat to see how well-rounded people make their armies when you know you have to use the same composition for every battle.
Yeah I had the same idea, it would resemble tabletop tournaments this way.
ehhh. human boy yes yes has done this. It doesn't sound fun to me personally, just kind of a weird gimmick.
Fun tournament, that Finals battle was a masterclass.
I really love how the Bloodwake Berserkers have Tyrion-level stats. It gives me hope that we might see Depth Guard and Blood Knights changed to reflect their vampire nature as well.
What a cool Beastmen build. Can't undersell how glad I am to see a proper bestigor press, rather than raider spam. A much deserved win!
Been a while since I’ve seen Vampire Counts versus Beastmen. Cool to see some different matchups with this format.
so many HE battles lately, truly a Christmas gift !😊
Are high elf spearman vs jade warriors considered a wet noodle fight?
Yes
Seeing that TOW store page as someone who had been collecting since the early 90s is depressing. A command group blister used to set you back £4-6 and now they're after £34. A single unit of goblins sets you back more than a batallion with 4 units used to, and I'd be curious as to if they came with the mountain of plastic multiparts that filled up conversion supplies or if they'd been trimmed down severely.
There's inflation and then there's absolute nonsense. Sometimes I'm almost glad they took the franchise out back and shot it, just because it made my mind up for me.
Lovely bestigor herd in the finale
Crane Gunners paired with Storm of Shadows was really cool to see. I utilize the tactic a lot in campaign.
10:30 High Elves vs Cathay
48:50 Warriors of Chaos vs Kislev
1:23:05 Greenskins vs Kislev
1:59:10 Khorne vs High Elves
2:30:40 Beastmen vs Vampire Counts
2:59:20 High Elves vs Beastmen
Love your content! I take it you don't watch your own replays so I just wanted to mention that your mangler quigs tend to fight on top of your own infantry and just nuke your own units on death (RIP Blackorcs). Super fun stuff and classic Greenskin :)
Wish theyd incorporate more of these community maps into ladder. They are much better than the CA maps
I'm pretty sure they will in due time
where do they get off selling 5 plastic miniatures for $42?
On top of piles of money I’d guess
Always wondered in what place of the world the prices for the tabletop game are considered affordable
@neonknight-1522 its only in the land of the 3d printer where plastic crack is affordable
Love to see High Elves in action.
Just want I needed to help out the kids to bed thank you 🙏 love this new format. This and SFT is the goat imo.
Please give us more tzeentch turin youve seen the win stats you know they need some love
i really like listening to you :)
Turin my man, love the tournaments as always. Though I'm curious if you have any plans to stream that tower defense game. Was quite interesting to watch
Perhaps yeah!
Awesome tourney!
Poor High Elves getting stomped...
Hey, Turin. Why you keep using gw blackorks? They are so much worse then sword and board with mdef toggle.
If Skull Cannons demolish High Elves archer builds then why the hell did you demolish their army even faster without them
Never played a high elf v Cathay. Think jet lion would be good cause I usually see lari or teclis for high elves. But either way I think that wrecking their magic would be fun. Also wonder if bringing saytang putting him in the front to bait focus fire and then casting missile mirror would be really good, cause he’s such a juicy target
i was allowed by slaanesh to bring the tally up to the blessed 690 likes B^)
Am I the only one who still thinks the Unsummon mechanic is lame?
Yeah kindof agree with you, takes away some of the competitiveness.
@@Patic234It's necessary to keep things competitive, otherwise mortal units would be at a huge disadvantage compared to undead/demons because they need to rout all the way off the map instead of disintegrating
Not the only one. It's pretty gimmicky.
manglers got 400 value in gs v kis game, def overnerfed unit.
eh, being fed into halberds + shooting "so that the blast will do some damage" is the definition of a bad fight, and not reflective of their performance.
But I do somewhat agree, I haven't seem them do better than decent since the nerfs. Maybe they could use a buff. IMO rather than bumping up the stats to make them better grind fighters, they should get and active ability vortex centered on the models where they just twirl super fast and do AOE damage ;)
He threw them into light cavalry, cheap halberds and kossar shooting. They counter armoured cossars in melee but it didn't happen.
@therandomheretek5403 extremely vulnerable to ranged and they rampage, mulching thru infy should be their bread and butter.
Turin, have you ever thought about changing unit stats in side of your total tavern mod pack instead of pissing on every single player campaign game? You fuck with my campaign every patch. I'm getting really tired of you pining for nerfs of anything you can't deal with in pvp.
The nerfs that are needed for pigback/tusk are cost increases, they will have no bearing on your campaign. Other than that, units that receive nerfs typically vastly outclass units in their similiar class, which makes for a more balanced campaign...granted, campaign balance is a bit of meme anyways, and goes out the window with a few talents/upgrades. Also, yes, I call for nerfs as well as buffs to bad units, but there are many others via community balance doc/other MP folks that CA draws even more heavily from. Cheers, happy new years!
Im so glad whenever I watch VC lose. Especially to beastmen. I absolutely despise that faction lmao. So awful to fight against and has exactly ONE(1) playstyle. Gee, I wonder if the mordis engine will be in this game like it is in every single game Vampire Counts have ever been in.