Great informative video, been struggling with a low draw/hook. Watched this video and changed my settings to +0.75 deg and slapped the 10g weight over to the toe. Just played 18 holes of very windy Links golf and it has made a big difference 👍
Love the 🧅 ‘s !!! Best description of the adjustable loft sleeve out there. KISS keep it simple stupid I lowered the loft sleeve on my 10.5 deg 2016 M2 one notch, so moved the lie upright 0.5 degrees no big deal and lowered spin 150 rpm. Swing weight at D4 my sweet spot. Put in a 8 gram plug in the head and took the OEM Weight which I think is 1 or 2 grams. Have my Small Batch Evenflow Riptide CB 6.0 shaft with my WINN Midsize DRI-TAC LT grip Can say 💰 !!! ❤️ it
great video Trotie and well explained. it would have been nice to see the difference of the numbers of all three adjustments on the screen. keep these coming they are a great help.
Great video trottie! Been fit for my Stealth Plus just awaiting delivery! 6.5d loft 3/4 of way to draw setting was perfect for me. Helped me knock my spin/launch conditions down exactly where i need.
Great video, as usual. Received my Stealth plus yesterday, and it WAS a thing of beauty. Lasted 0.75 days- whole face insert has popped off, coming away from the head….back to TaylorMade it goes 😢 Hopefully a first batch fault. Not a good start
On standard setting my ball speed is 184, launch angle 12.2, 2800 spin, 138 ball height. Carry avg 314. I’m wandering if I should get fitted for a different shaft to get my spin down a little bit to get more roll out of the ball.
Hi Trottie, I am enjoying your videos, I have a question for you as a club builder. I have a tailor-made stealth driver, as I unscrewed the head, the head remains stuck to the shaft. I have not been able to figure out a way to solve this problem. Do you have any suggestions? Much appreciated.
Great Video Trottie! So much information and love the just swing it moments! How much ball speed change did you see just from the Sim to the Stealth! What are you your ideal settings for your swing?
Good to hear. I always like standard for lie angle but have gone to one click toward higher this last 2 weeks. Seeing gains on center strikes of 2mph but big increases on off-center hits. That's the winner for me
@@trottiegolfhello I need bt of advice on the steath driver I bought no custom fit what setting roughly all I want as am straight with higher loft please cheers Gary.
@@garyquinn7585 many things to consider. I can't honestly answer this without seeing you hit. Start in standard and work from there. I have some videos on how to adjust the loft sleeve, that'll help you so take a look.
Just received my custom ordered stealth plus driver and 3wood. Velocore blue in driver and red in 3 wood. Why would the custom shop tip the driver shaft 1” and not the 3 wood shaft?
Hi Trottie, I remember when when we first met and you fitted me for the R7 TP Driver at the Belfry and you played in my pro-am team at Olton GC. Then when you worked for TM on the tour bus on the European Tour we met a couple of times with our joint friend Jason F. How times fly by. Another interesting video. Didn't think about moving the weight to counter the flight control sleeve. Just got my TM Stealth driver and 3-wood. When I did my fitting with my local pro he did not have any swing weights. I was wondering where to get them from as I cannot see them for sale anywhere. I would be very interested to try a heavier and lighter swing weight to see the effect.
@@trottiegolf OK. I think fitting is different here in the UK. My club pro got the premium fitting kit that offered a greater selection of shafts but no SW's. Maybe official fitting centres like the Belfry will offer them. Next time I drop by I'll ask. In the mean time I hope TM will offer them in the future.
@@GlowRed Yes it's frustrating that TM don't support local fitters by providing weights for the heads. The stock shafts for Stealth are pretty weak this year and you can see Trottie never uses the stock shafts in these videos.
What is optimum peak height ? We have trackman range in our club I’m finding peak height of 100- 110 gets me my best carry distances , I’m getting into high 280s carry and finishing at 303-316 run outs , Loving these videos just a new subscriber 👍
Good to have ya & with those yardages I'd say you're in a good window for peak height but of course it's all dependent on a PLYR's speed. You seem good there though
Just got fit for a Stealth HD 9 degree with Smoke Blue RDX 6S. Spin was around 2100-2200 but seemed a bit lower if a flight. Increasing the loft did kick up the spin rates more. I was swinging 101 on Trackman with a -.5 AOA. Are those spin rates too low and will getting a more positive AOA change spin rates or increase carry? Carry was showing 230 which is up for me but felt like there is more I can get out of it.
Is it correct if the sleeve is set to -.75degree i should put the track weight on sole to draw locataion to achieve the little cut? I currently have it set to - 0.75degree and in the toe…some guidance possibly?
@@trottiegolf i have it set one notch towards lower so its stock 9 degree and now its one notch down from 9 So if looking to play the little cut am where is best to place the track slider weight
As I've understood it one needs to re-aim the face to target to realize the loft change when the clubhead falls open or closed after a loft change. So it's either a face angle change or a loft change, true or false?
Very interesting. So changing loft changes lie angle? Toes it up when set at "HIGHER". So am I right to assume it toes it down flatter when setting loft to, "LOWER'? Next Q. What about shaft trueing of a shaft with a noticeable spine. To me this adjustable loft changes the spine of the shaft as you rotate it in any direction and that changes the character of the club more than the sleeve changes. I have a full set of tools to pull and epoxy in shafts and check and mark the spine. I have done on Drivers and 3 woods for years. Even irons. I know some expensive shafts have no detecrable spine and those are great for adjustable sleeves. Stock shafts and most aftermarket, or should I say, not made for, shafts have a spine. What is your opinion on those situations. I am pretty sure that you pure your shafts like you do for the pros you build clubs for. If you are just going to spin the shaft around in the head change loft and lie, do you then, pull the sleeve, put a new feral on it and glue it in with the spine aligned for the new setting? I love to watch these vids by the way. Keep them coming.
Thx for the comment. No. Every move away from std goes more up. On spinning, we don't do much of it on tour, maybe 5% & on our truck nobody locates the spine. It was certainly popular when it came out but shafts have moved on so much, as has loft adjustment that guys just don't do it that much these days
@@trottiegolf I have mixed feelings on that. I have found very noticeable spine in New upper end shafts. Most recently in a couple of Ventus w/Velocore. I have some Diamna Kali's from a while back I still use and keep because they have no detectable spine. If a shaft does have a strong side (spine) it is critical to align it. So to hear the pros don't even check or care is perplexing. Maybe they just test clubs until they find one that works. And Chances are the ones they like have the spine properly aligned or no detectable spine. And rotating the tip can get the spine close and make the club more consistent, you just have to live with the loft spin and lie angle or reset the sleeve everytime you make a change. Another thing I have favored are shafts with detectable spines as they help align the face kind of like have weight in the rear center of a club head. Kin of. but the shaft always goes to the the stiffer side when unwinding. When not in line, it wobbles. Maybe the best shafts are reserved for the pros. If not, you should be checking them.
@@greasby1golf871 You have no idea. Look up spine alignment. I have had nothing but huge improvements aligning my shafts. The good shaft companies are making their shafts so a spine can not be detected. But even they spit out some that do. I was doing this when most all shafts had very noticeable spines. And I can tell when hitting a club that it is out of alignment. It should be in alignment with the direction the club moves. Otherwise it causes a wobble. The easy way to align it is to face it towards the target at address. Or facing the same direction as the clubface. Put a weight an a laser on the end of shaft with the butt in a vice and aim it at a wall. Flex it 8inches and let go. Move the shaft in small increments and repeat. You will be amazed at what you see. It will wobble all different ways with each increment. If you let it wobble for a bit it will algn with the spine. When the spine is in alignment with the direction you are flexing it, it will draw a straight line. Trust me, it make a huge difference. There's a reason the pros all have their shafts aligned. You can buy a cheap tool to check yours. Best if done with head and grip and a clean shaft on both ends. You can run it just under the grip with the head off but not as thoroughly. It can change the impact location on the face as much as an inch and leave the face open closed and everything in-between. It can even find the center but its a crap shoot. It's the only to become a consistent ball striker unless you have a set of perfect shafts. That would be highly unlikely. You would be lucky to find on that was set in alignment. And if you did, it would be your favorite club in the set of irons. Or rescues. Or woods. Moi matching helps a lot too but not nearly as much as aligning the spine. That is wher the swing weight increases ever so much from long iron to wedges. A special SW scale is needed to set MOI. They are not cheap. There is formula that you can use to do it manually using the fulcrum of the shaft but it takes forever. Ask me how I know not being a wealthy man. But I can play some good golf. Mostly because of careful attention to my shafts. I know my misses are all me. And that teaches you. It's impossible if the shaft is causing sporadic dispersion. I need to do the set that came in my ZX7's but they are not far off and it is so much work and I have been too lazy since I bought them. I'm guessing mine have minimal spines. But I can tell they are not perfect. I think Srixon aligned them last year and that is why their clubs got such great reviews. Either that or their shafts are just far superior than the other companies stock offerings. It only takes a minute to check a new shaft and mark it. Less even after you done it several times.
Hi. Love your vids. What spin on average should I be looking for with a drive set at 12 degrees? I carry 200y with total 225y. Thinking of changing to 10.5 degrees for more distance so what spin should I be looking for this to optimise distance. I currently play g425 but thinking Stealth so final question which stealth driver would best suit. Im a 18 handicap.
Many variables but high 2000 on spin with that yardage should work. You're gonna need to look at decent angle and then ask yourself what your true shot shape is. I wouldn't rule out the HD version but this all depends on how you answer my previous question. Seriously go and get a fitting, it's good fun & if you have these types of questions it's gonna help ya
The face angle is what does it for me. When I’m drawing the ball and really hitting bombs I need to crank up that loft because I deloft it at impact so much. Then sometimes I like to really carve up the fades so I turn the sleeve all the way to the low setting aim left and swipe across the ball. I want to consistently hit the draw-straight ball bombs because I easily get 30 more yards but my natural swing thought is a power cut fade. That’s a tough shot though because it’s really spinny and risky. It’s a love hate relationship.
@@trottiegolf And I know it cant be Google Analytics based because I despise Callaway clubs and have never Googled the Rogue. Perhaps Callaway is target marketing people who have googled the Stealth, because I've done that a LOT.
If stealth much faster then sim then why Rick shiels claiming it’s a gimmick. imo I feel his reviews with stealth is the same he did with callaway and cobra. Actually hit stealth lot better imo. and claims it’s not going far at all. When his stats with the new cobra and callaway are the exact same and says those clubs are going further. I think he is harsh with TM products…
yea maybe... to be fair I don't know as I'm not with him when he tests. You need to get fitted though if you want the best out of any of these clubs. Link in my description to this video will take you to those pages. I can't commit fairly on others, I can just show you what I do & hope it makes some sense
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Great informative video, been struggling with a low draw/hook. Watched this video and changed my settings to +0.75 deg and slapped the 10g weight over to the toe. Just played 18 holes of very windy Links golf and it has made a big difference 👍
Love the 🧅 ‘s !!! Best description of the adjustable loft sleeve out there. KISS keep it simple stupid
I lowered the loft sleeve on my 10.5 deg 2016 M2 one notch, so moved the lie upright 0.5 degrees no big deal and lowered spin 150 rpm. Swing weight at D4 my sweet spot. Put in a 8 gram plug in the head and took the OEM Weight which I think is 1 or 2 grams. Have my Small Batch Evenflow Riptide CB 6.0 shaft with my WINN Midsize DRI-TAC LT grip Can say 💰 !!! ❤️ it
Always appreciate these videos trottie.. great stuff as usual
great video Trotie and well explained. it would have been nice to see the difference of the numbers of all three adjustments on the screen. keep these coming they are a great help.
I think I should add that to my shot list for the the Qi model
Great video trottie! Been fit for my Stealth Plus just awaiting delivery! 6.5d loft 3/4 of way to draw setting was perfect for me. Helped me knock my spin/launch conditions down exactly where i need.
The man’s vocab 👍
Great video, as usual. Received my Stealth plus yesterday, and it WAS a thing of beauty.
Lasted 0.75 days- whole face insert has popped off, coming away from the head….back to TaylorMade it goes 😢
Hopefully a first batch fault.
Not a good start
On standard setting my ball speed is 184, launch angle 12.2, 2800 spin, 138 ball height. Carry avg 314. I’m wandering if I should get fitted for a different shaft to get my spin down a little bit to get more roll out of the ball.
Hi Trottie, I am enjoying your videos, I have a question for you as a club builder. I have a tailor-made stealth driver, as I unscrewed the head, the head remains stuck to the shaft. I have not been able to figure out a way to solve this problem. Do you have any suggestions? Much appreciated.
Heat gun
I want to put my old M1 shaft in my stealth but it's tipped an inch and I can't get the weight to bring that swingweight back up.
Great Video Trottie! So much information and love the just swing it moments! How much ball speed change did you see just from the Sim to the Stealth! What are you your ideal settings for your swing?
Good to hear.
I always like standard for lie angle but have gone to one click toward higher this last 2 weeks.
Seeing gains on center strikes of 2mph but big increases on off-center hits.
That's the winner for me
@@trottiegolfhello I need bt of advice on the steath driver I bought no custom fit what setting roughly all I want as am straight with higher loft please cheers Gary.
@@garyquinn7585 many things to consider. I can't honestly answer this without seeing you hit. Start in standard and work from there. I have some videos on how to adjust the loft sleeve, that'll help you so take a look.
Just received my custom ordered stealth plus driver and 3wood. Velocore blue in driver and red in 3 wood. Why would the custom shop tip the driver shaft 1” and not the 3 wood shaft?
great info
What app are you using on your phone mate
Hi Trottie, I remember when when we first met and you fitted me for the R7 TP Driver at the Belfry and you played in my pro-am team at Olton GC. Then when you worked for TM on the tour bus on the European Tour we met a couple of times with our joint friend Jason F. How times fly by.
Another interesting video. Didn't think about moving the weight to counter the flight control sleeve.
Just got my TM Stealth driver and 3-wood. When I did my fitting with my local pro he did not have any swing weights. I was wondering where to get them from as I cannot see them for sale anywhere. I would be very interested to try a heavier and lighter swing weight to see the effect.
Class! Good times. I’m
Not sure if you can buy SW’s individually I think it’s intended to be part of the fitting process
@@trottiegolf OK. I think fitting is different here in the UK. My club pro got the premium fitting kit that offered a greater selection of shafts but no SW's. Maybe official fitting centres like the Belfry will offer them. Next time I drop by I'll ask. In the mean time I hope TM will offer them in the future.
@@GlowRed Yes it's frustrating that TM don't support local fitters by providing weights for the heads. The stock shafts for Stealth are pretty weak this year and you can see Trottie never uses the stock shafts in these videos.
What is optimum peak height ?
We have trackman range in our club I’m finding peak height of 100- 110 gets me my best carry distances , I’m getting into high 280s carry and finishing at 303-316 run outs ,
Loving these videos just a new subscriber 👍
Good to have ya & with those yardages I'd say you're in a good window for peak height but of course it's all dependent on a PLYR's speed. You seem good there though
Just got fit for a Stealth HD 9 degree with Smoke Blue RDX 6S. Spin was around 2100-2200 but seemed a bit lower if a flight. Increasing the loft did kick up the spin rates more. I was swinging 101 on Trackman with a -.5 AOA. Are those spin rates too low and will getting a more positive AOA change spin rates or increase carry? Carry was showing 230 which is up for me but felt like there is more I can get out of it.
Will the Stealth standard version be available in the ”MyStealth” program soon?
I believe so yes 🤷🏻♂️
Is it correct if the sleeve is set to -.75degree i should put the track weight on sole to draw locataion to achieve the little cut?
I currently have it set to - 0.75degree and in the toe…some guidance possibly?
.75* which way? the weight track moves CG location
@@trottiegolf i have it set one notch towards lower so its stock 9 degree and now its one notch down from 9
So if looking to play the little cut am where is best to place the track slider weight
Safe move to get the stealth plus head and put it in the same shaft I got fitted for in my sim2? Or reccomend a whole new fitting
Always recommend a new fitting if you can
Sorry: if Play one notch past upright lie towards higher Ive gone up right and added .75 ? Is that right?
depending on the degree of the sleeve, YES
@@trottiegolf thanks!
As I've understood it one needs to re-aim the face to target to realize the loft change when the clubhead falls open or closed after a loft change. So it's either a face angle change or a loft change, true or false?
Face angle changes with the loft. Not one independent of the other
Where can you get the different weights? Do we need to wait for aftermarket one? Or will TM sell them?
I believe it's during the fitting process that the rep will adjust, I do not think they are available for resale
If I don’t have a counterbalanced shaft will adding weight to the head decrease my swing speed?
Nope - increase
Do any Tour Pros remove the front weight of the Plus and add a heavier back weight?
No
That said…. I’ve seen AM’s do it
Very interesting. So changing loft changes lie angle? Toes it up when set at "HIGHER". So am I right to assume it toes it down flatter when setting loft to, "LOWER'?
Next Q. What about shaft trueing of a shaft with a noticeable spine. To me this adjustable loft changes the spine of the shaft as you rotate it in any direction and that changes the character of the club more than the sleeve changes. I have a full set of tools to pull and epoxy in shafts and check and mark the spine. I have done on Drivers and 3 woods for years. Even irons. I know some expensive shafts have no detecrable spine and those are great for adjustable sleeves. Stock shafts and most aftermarket, or should I say, not made for, shafts have a spine. What is your opinion on those situations. I am pretty sure that you pure your shafts like you do for the pros you build clubs for. If you are just going to spin the shaft around in the head change loft and lie, do you then, pull the sleeve, put a new feral on it and glue it in with the spine aligned for the new setting? I love to watch these vids by the way. Keep them coming.
Thx for the comment.
No. Every move away from std goes more up.
On spinning, we don't do much of it on tour, maybe 5% & on our truck nobody locates the spine.
It was certainly popular when it came out but shafts have moved on so much, as has loft adjustment that guys just don't do it that much these days
@@trottiegolf I have mixed feelings on that. I have found very noticeable spine in New upper end shafts. Most recently in a couple of Ventus w/Velocore. I have some Diamna Kali's from a while back I still use and keep because they have no detectable spine. If a shaft does have a strong side (spine) it is critical to align it. So to hear the pros don't even check or care is perplexing. Maybe they just test clubs until they find one that works. And Chances are the ones they like have the spine properly aligned or no detectable spine. And rotating the tip can get the spine close and make the club more consistent, you just have to live with the loft spin and lie angle or reset the sleeve everytime you make a change. Another thing I have favored are shafts with detectable spines as they help align the face kind of like have weight in the rear center of a club head. Kin of. but the shaft always goes to the the stiffer side when unwinding. When not in line, it wobbles. Maybe the best shafts are reserved for the pros. If not, you should be checking them.
@@chuckyz2 makes no difference the 'spine' moves the club such a minuscule amount on strike the biggest variable is the human attached to the grip
@@greasby1golf871 You have no idea. Look up spine alignment. I have had nothing but huge improvements aligning my shafts. The good shaft companies are making their shafts so a spine can not be detected. But even they spit out some that do. I was doing this when most all shafts had very noticeable spines. And I can tell when hitting a club that it is out of alignment. It should be in alignment with the direction the club moves. Otherwise it causes a wobble. The easy way to align it is to face it towards the target at address. Or facing the same direction as the clubface. Put a weight an a laser on the end of shaft with the butt in a vice and aim it at a wall. Flex it 8inches and let go. Move the shaft in small increments and repeat. You will be amazed at what you see. It will wobble all different ways with each increment. If you let it wobble for a bit it will algn with the spine. When the spine is in alignment with the direction you are flexing it, it will draw a straight line. Trust me, it make a huge difference. There's a reason the pros all have their shafts aligned. You can buy a cheap tool to check yours. Best if done with head and grip and a clean shaft on both ends. You can run it just under the grip with the head off but not as thoroughly. It can change the impact location on the face as much as an inch and leave the face open closed and everything in-between. It can even find the center but its a crap shoot. It's the only to become a consistent ball striker unless you have a set of perfect shafts. That would be highly unlikely. You would be lucky to find on that was set in alignment. And if you did, it would be your favorite club in the set of irons. Or rescues. Or woods. Moi matching helps a lot too but not nearly as much as aligning the spine. That is wher the swing weight increases ever so much from long iron to wedges. A special SW scale is needed to set MOI. They are not cheap. There is formula that you can use to do it manually using the fulcrum of the shaft but it takes forever. Ask me how I know not being a wealthy man. But I can play some good golf. Mostly because of careful attention to my shafts. I know my misses are all me. And that teaches you. It's impossible if the shaft is causing sporadic dispersion. I need to do the set that came in my ZX7's but they are not far off and it is so much work and I have been too lazy since I bought them. I'm guessing mine have minimal spines. But I can tell they are not perfect. I think Srixon aligned them last year and that is why their clubs got such great reviews. Either that or their shafts are just far superior than the other companies stock offerings. It only takes a minute to check a new shaft and mark it. Less even after you done it several times.
@@chuckyz2 ok mate tell me the last time you hit a shot with repetitive small movements like some sort of guitar tuner! Its flat earth stuff mate 😉
Hi. Love your vids. What spin on average should I be looking for with a drive set at 12 degrees? I carry 200y with total 225y. Thinking of changing to 10.5 degrees for more distance so what spin should I be looking for this to optimise distance. I currently play g425 but thinking Stealth so final question which stealth driver would best suit. Im a 18 handicap.
Many variables but high 2000 on spin with that yardage should work. You're gonna need to look at decent angle and then ask yourself what your true shot shape is. I wouldn't rule out the HD version but this all depends on how you answer my previous question. Seriously go and get a fitting, it's good fun & if you have these types of questions it's gonna help ya
How much does the weight in back of Stealth+ weigh and come standard? 4g?
Depends on build spec but I think it's safe to assume 4g - 6g is "standard", although I hate using that tag
The face angle is what does it for me. When I’m drawing the ball and really hitting bombs I need to crank up that loft because I deloft it at impact so much. Then sometimes I like to really carve up the fades so I turn the sleeve all the way to the low setting aim left and swipe across the ball. I want to consistently hit the draw-straight ball bombs because I easily get 30 more yards but my natural swing thought is a power cut fade. That’s a tough shot though because it’s really spinny and risky. It’s a love hate relationship.
Path. Do you know your path numbers? Inside cut would be the ticket there.
never found "why the face has to close if you move the loft"... what is te raison, the goal???
If you add loft, if you take it off then it’ll open
Strike for strike, lower spinning head, stealth or original sim?
Stealth Plus, then Stealth, then OG SIM
@@trottiegolf perfect, thanks for the info 👍
Callaway Rogue ad plays when I open this video... Fix your ads, TH-cam.
🤣 …..
@@trottiegolf And I know it cant be Google Analytics based because I despise Callaway clubs and have never Googled the Rogue. Perhaps Callaway is target marketing people who have googled the Stealth, because I've done that a LOT.
@@rubyfunfun5 No Clue, but I love your take on it
Ok I'll buy a Stealth+
If stealth much faster then sim then why Rick shiels claiming it’s a gimmick. imo I feel his reviews with stealth is the same he did with callaway and cobra. Actually hit stealth lot better imo. and claims it’s not going far at all. When his stats with the new cobra and callaway are the exact same and says those clubs are going further. I think he is harsh with TM products…
yea maybe... to be fair I don't know as I'm not with him when he tests. You need to get fitted though if you want the best out of any of these clubs. Link in my description to this video will take you to those pages. I can't commit fairly on others, I can just show you what I do & hope it makes some sense