Concert grand piano vs practicing piano
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- It is always difficult to switch the instruments but as pianists it is part of our jobs. In this video I try to show the main differences between a concert grand piano (Bösendorfer Imperial) and a practicing piano (Yamaha C2). Of course there is much more to say than I can say in this short video ;)
0:00 intro
0:54 introducing Kreissparkasse Böblingen
1:34 some facts about the instruments
3:25 Why the size makes a difference in your playing
4:24 other differences
5:54 Examples
8:26 Why different pianos need different interpretations
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I think sometimes the piano chooses you. I went to this huge piano warehouse with the intention of getting a grand piano or a higher end upright. After hours of trying them all I went home with a cheap 1967 Ronisch upright. I love the sound of it, very clear and rich, the keys are not too heavy and not too light, they are very responsive and allow me to do beautiful trills and repeated notes, all for only £1600. I get a very experienced (and expensive) piano tuner to look after it twice a year. I can't imagine getting another piano now - the Ronisch is my friend and companion and has looked after me. It's a member of the family.
That's a great story. My upright wurlitzer will always be with me. It's not the best but I grew up practicing on it. The sound of it is amazing. It rivals small grands. The action is smooth and holds its tune for a LONG time. Only drawback is repeated notes at fast tempo, which is common. I'm saving for a grand piano now. But this one is staying lol
Yes this happened to me too.i spent many months looking for a new piano.Then i bought an upright Ibach.its really suits me and and i have got attached to it.
I set out last year to test drive a few grands. I had a small Wurlitzer Stencil (made by Samick) that was needing serious regulation and had become a pain to play. They had a nice used Baldwin L, a nice used Yamaha C3, a 7'2" Kawai (that I loved) but the new Hallet Davis and Co (made by Pearl River) 6'2" called to me. The action and the mellowness of it sold me. A year later, I'm still pleased with it. I think finding the right fit is the most important. I hope you have a lifetime with your Ronisch.
We can't afford a piano tuner, so I belive that you can guess how my piano sounds😬
@@theodorwibergeriksson9991 A few years ago I couldn't afford them either. So I bought a $60 tuning program. DVD with basic tuning equipment. Now I tune it every couple months. It really helps and you can tune it whenever you want. It's also a great way to learn more about the instrument. All the masters in the past knew how to tune.
My mother was a professional pianist with solo performances at Orchestra Hall in Chicago and elsewhere in the area and such. The piano at the hall was always just fine, but that wasn't the case everywhere. And she also had a string trio that would play all over and sometimes the pianos weren't so good. Later in life she accompanied classical singers or dancers, again, in venues all over the place where the piano was the luck of the draw. I remember quite a few times her coming home complaining not just about a piano's tune, but things like "The A below middle C would stick and on such and such piece it was hard to work around that." Her home piano for years was a Mehlin & Sons that was quite nice and got tuned twice a year. Later she got a superb reconditioned Steinway at probably half price. A very good friend of hers was Catherine Bielefeldt who had become the first woman manager at Steinway Hall in New York. Cathy helped find the Steinway for her. (Upon my mother's passing, my brother and I agreed that her piano should be donated to an up and coming female artist instead of selling it.) Cathy, in addition to the important task of babysitting me at one time, wrote the excellent book, "The Wonders of the Piano: The Anatomy of the Instrument". She and my mother met when they were both members of an all-woman all-piano orchestra during the war years. About fifteen pianists playing together. My mother was the lead pianist. She told me the enterprise wasn't financially successful and didn't last long.
Hall vs room, too...BIG BIG difference.
Yes, as pianists we always have to play on different instruments.
BUT we don't have to carry them! 😁
That has all the makings of a Far Side cartoon! Great comment! The double bass on the subway image and someone dragging a grand onto the train!
At lease when you take the legs off a grand they are easy to move.
It cracks me up that they charge delivery by the number of steps they have to climb.
When i am playing on a piano with different brand, i feel like i am playing on a different instrument, the sound quality, key action, depth of key....everything is different so i usually have a hard time adjusting to new piano.
Same with me. I play on my practice electric keyboard then I go to my acoustic upright and it's different. I remember doing a recital on a grand but it has a softer sound. It's probably the room was bigger than my livingroom with my upright. The volume and loudness was different.
I wish I had a grand piano to play 😔
I wish I had the skills to play :-)
I wish the same, even 1 key could be sufficient :(
Same Chris
Dude...
Same
@@tobiaskolley i felt that
6:30 the bass sound smashed my heart
You are so right
The Bosendorfer speaks so clearly with incredible note definition. Though a superior concert instrument, it requires a very intelligent player such as yourself.
It was a shocking difference between the two pianos and I know the Yamaha is no slouch.
@@RobHoffman83 Yamahas have really nice action and great tone, the CX has even improved on the C. However, keep in mind Yamaha makes several levels of pianos. Above the C/CX series is the SX and the absolutely superb, and expensive, CF. I really like Yamaha's CF pianos and the SX as well. They're very fine. As for Bosendorfer, I like the 280VC concert piano even more than the Imperial. It does not have the extra keys. For the most part, we'll hear Steinway Ds in concerts however Faziolis and Yamaha CFs are getting more popular and Shigeru Kawai has a following.
@@RobHoffman83 I think the acoustics of the room she was playing in, compared to the concert hall (I think) the Bosedorfer was in, made a big difference as well.
@@RobHoffman83 Pretty sure her piano is closed and in a smaller room so that's probably most of it
I have listened to recitals on the Bosendorfer; the one I heard sounded most unlike
@8:51 As I'm learning this great piece called "Chopstix" I completely agree with you. Some pianos fight me and don't make the sound I'm trying to make.
Your practicing instrument Yamaha C2 ist still high-end! There are many people playing on a shabby screeching upright piano with a lazy mechanic. I am convinced that developing fast-playing skills on such an upright is much more difficult than on a grand.
The other thing is the hall acoustics that makes the sound appear from all around the room and not out of the instrument's body! I think that practicing the change between instruments often and repeatedly is crucial. The more experience one could gather on different instruments the easier each adaptation is when confronted with a new one.
The C2 and the newer C2X are great Conservatory level pianos and are pretty high end. They have solid action. The difference between the C2 or even C7 is the bass presence. A 9 foot or bigger piano just has a good, strong bass.
Hall Acoustics that's a laugh. when I took piano at UCF my teacher had me in a practice room with tiles on the walls; ceiling and even the door you could not even hear the air bounce off the walls when you walked around in the room. she wanted me to practice in that room as well. I only got to play on the concert grand when I played a forum. The Forum was when students performed for other students on their instruments. its like a small recital.
Yup. I have to get by on a digital...
@@benjaminsmith2287 n
i also don't really enjoy the sound of upright lol
Remarkable! She tells me things I do understand but never realised. Very clever explanation!
Imagine being an organist who may have to play on a french symphonic organ one day and on a small baroque one the next, and for basically every new instrument you have to basicaly re orchestrate the piece, and let me tell you, it can be extremely difficult.😓
Organists are the greatest! AFAIK they are the only classical musicians (excluding the Baroque revival people) who are still taught to improvise - 300 years ago every musician did it.
Yeah, improvising is actually one of my favorite things to do, though I am not very good at it, and I also love experimenting with different registrations and sounds.
It's amazing!
@@gerardvila4685 I improvise all the time. It's a nice skill. I like to add to pieces I play. Especially variations.
Other than a few features (such the ability to play louder and softer, and a sustain pedal), a piano essentially generates all of its music as a "1-rank" instrument. Similarly we could ostensibly "play" the entire organ repertoire on a 1-rank instrument - that is, we might be able to hit all the notes. If we have 2 ranks our options for expression are "somewhat" increased; even more so with 3, 5, 8, 12, 15, 22, 37, 42, 56, and more ranks (and a couple more manuals). Some pianos are voiced and regulated better for Bach, others for Liszt. Some organs are fine for Bach but not so much for Vierne. Bottom line - we make the music happen with whatsoever instrument we happen to find at hand - yes?
5:15 I think of this whenever I play my practice piano and it always makes me sad that I am never really able to let it shine being fully open. I live with other people and it's already loud enough closed.
I was watching D-274 and Bosendorfer playing videos then found this episode and your charm, natural beauty, and skill has me enchanted....subbed! :D
As an absolute beginner, I feel like I'm slumming it on my little Recital Prestige Grand (88 weighted, graded hammer action keys) electric piano after watching you. But I do like my vintage 1947 Chickering console. 75 years old and still has a great action and tone.
The "S" in that hall looks like our piano store logo! Thanks for sharing. Great video outlining the differences between the two calabre of instruments.
I hear your poor plant crying out for a drink!
Same here lol
First thing I noticed, too! :-)
HAHA Sameeeee
Haha you noticed it. I was focused with her hair shinning by the sun
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Greetings. This video showed on my feed maybe because I’ve been looking at videos about piano tuning and looking for piano concerts.
Your video is informative. Thank you. While I am listening on an iPhone, I am able to notice the difference in sound between your practice and the Imprial. One key thing that affects the sound is the room. At your house, there is a lot to absorb the sound of the piano so the voice of the piano can’t fully be heard and appreciated. Where the Imperial is in a large open room, the acoustics are allowed to reverberate and allow the voice of the piano to truly and completely be admired. Both piano’s do sound great. As a result I subscribed to your channel and looking forward to watching more of your videos.
A very beautiful and very talented young lady. You inspire me to save up and buy a grand piano.
While listening to the piano playing on the C 2 I had 3 thoughts:
- have the instrument tuned,
- Have the hammer heads pulled off in the treble,
- Have bass strings re-spun and replaced.
With a smaller grand piano, the bass range is always the weak point. The transition (blank strings - bass strings) also often sounds wiry.
But I can imagine that a new bass cover will bring a lot: just ask a reputable piano builder.
Thank you for this video!🌹🎹
What thg really interesting education on experiencing different piano. My knowledge I as limited, and I have never heard of a boost of imperial. The instrument is so impressive. Thanks for the education.
2024, im just watching this video. Always so much to learn from you. 😊You are my Piano Queen 👑💓
I'm not a real pianist. I'm just a student but I love your videos. I'm always learning something new. Thanks Miss Göttler
Thank you for this excellent presentation. And you are a great musician! I hope your career goes on well!
As to the instrument, it really makes a huge difference. Until a couple of years I played on an old Ibach baby grand piano which I inherited from my grandma. It was built around 1910. I had some restauration works carried out on it but the sound hardly improved. So I decided to look for a replacement. During my search I bumped into a used Yamaha CF6, 5 years old. And I can tell you that was day and night. And thanks to this new instrument, my piano playing improved a lot.
When I played the Steinway D, it was immediately like an old friend beckoning me to just let loose. The touch of the keys were perfect and my confidence was quickly gained (I had not played in 3 years). The sound was magnificent! I bought a Boston that day, which had a nice warm sound and fit my budget. It is also a business investment for my encore career. I will never forget my experience at the Steinway D - it was a dream come true to play! I know I will truly enjoy my Boston as well! I get it in June.
You play with some of them, some of them play with you.
This is true for any instrument
The quality of the musician can ALSO be found in the ability to play with all different types of instrument personalities that exist
I love the way you interpret these realities in your video here :D
I own a Baldwin SF-10 (7'), which has a Renner action in it (just like the 9' Baldwin SD-10, the Bechstein and Bosendorfer grands). I prefer practicing on an instrument that has a heavier action/touch, because the very worst situation would be to practice on a light action and then engage a heavy action on stage! The other way (heavy then light), you have "reserve" so to speak.
My favorite was a Steingraeber & Söhne E-272. I was in heaven while playing it. It was so perfectly balanced across registers and responded so well to touch. The tone was the most beautiful I've heard so far.
Nice piano and well worth the $265,000 cost.
Great video/insights!
At the moment I am looking into buying a C5, this video was very interesting!
To me there are 2 main differences between the pianos here: acoustics and clarity. Somehow I think the C2 here sounds worse than it actually is due to room acoustics. But, the Bosendorfer has absolutely beautiful clarity between the notes which you just don't have in the C2. You feel the space, even over TH-cam. (Can't wait to start properly testing various grand pianos!)
I love Steinway B or D. The dynamic range and color palate is remarkable and they can be customized to a significant degree. It’s almost like looking into the last seeing how essentially the construction had been built upon and improved over 150 years. There’s a reason for every little detail on a Steinway.
Experience yes... experience is the greatest teacher 🙂.. thanks from NZ 👍🇳🇿
This mainly demonstrates the limitations of the iPhone as a recording device!
I have a Hamburg Steinway D -274, which was made in 2015. I love it very much.
Enjoyed your lecture. As a mostly jazz-playing-but very classically trained- piano player, I still pay attention to the "soul" of the piano which is its characteristic sound. I chose the Yamaha C5 as a compromise but often wish I had a more colorful sound in it. Over time, I acquired three other instruments that help to cure some of that problem. Given the enormous acquisition costs of a new Grand, the choice of a home piano is very often a matter of your budget ( and perhaps room size too ).
That was very interesting. I never knew the real differences ($$$). I have a beginner Yamaha. But, I have no concert in my future.
I love your channel! Instant sub. Btw I think Bosedorfer is the BEST sounding piano in my opinion.
The Bosie sounds exquisite. Hearing the sound of a Bosie, all I can do is cringe when people call Steinway pianos "complex". I would take the beautiful notes of a Bosendorfer blending perfectly over any other piano on planet Earth any day, except perhaps Shigeru Kawai.
At the end of the day, the artist has a great deal in determining the tone and interpretation, but the instrument does matter! I'm personally a NY Steinway fan, (selected a wonderful B for my concert this Sunday in a medium sized hall), but you're absolutely right about learning to be flexible. I'm amazed at the tonal beauty an artist can draw out of nearly any functioning instrument.
My fav is Fazioli.. thanks for the video 🙏🏻
Can you share what you like about it please?
Each piano regardless of size , type or price , is a personality all its own. Even between identical models. The first Grand piano i played in a studio was a Baldwin SD-10. It was transforming to me. A very moving experience. I believe what one practices on should be close to ones performance instrument, but need not be identical. Its all about that touch !
Very interesting, thank you for the Video
you are amazing and i love your channel
Favorite brand: Boston! Mostly because it’s diminishing returns when I go from Boston to Steinway. Have played on the same Boston model (two physically different pianos, same model) and the difference even then is incredible. The Bosendorfer on the video sounds so crisp like you can tell every note apart! Great vid!
Great video! You mentioned that you're constantly having to use different instruments. When you arrive for a performance or a competition, do you get some time to play the piano to get the feel of it? Or are there times you have to walk in cold and just play? For brands of pianos, I really like Yamahas, they have a bright sound to my ears. However any piano will do in a pinch.
YOU are the one truly deserves being a Steinway star/representative. I am sooooo happy! (In my local Steinway stores it used to be some silly random people who can barely plays piano properly selling the pianos...)
She plays Yamaha and Bösendorfer in this video, I don't get the mention of Steinway.
@@benca-alors3226 She's played a Steinway in some other videos. IMO, upper-end Yamahas are the equal of Steinway and Bosendorfer is beyond both. But it really depends on individual pianos, some upper end pianos can be disappointing or the techs haven't prepared them well.
I love that kind of bright clear sound of the Bosen but I feel like it's not for everything. A nice big Yamaha equivalent might give it a run for it's money in the same room side by side. Thanks for the comparisons (and great playing!)
My first piano was a (now) 100+ year old Chickering upright grand, which has been in my family since my grandparents purchased it used 70-odd years ago. A truly beautiful instrument for what it is. To this day my mother keeps it tuned and it really has a wonderful tone. The only problem with it is the ivory has chipped or come completely off some keys so it has been redone with plastic keycaps (is that the right word?).
A few months ago my wife and I acquired her parents' piano, a 1910 James & Holmstrom upright grand. This piano has had a rough life; it was originally delivered by horse and buggy to my wife's great-grandmother as a 16th birthday present, and since then the family fell on some difficult times and the piano ultimately sat in a barn for over 30 years before my wife's parents decided to see if it could be resurrected. And resurrect it they did; they sanded and refinished the entire exterior and had it tuned, and it played like a new instrument (apart from J&H's transposing keyboard mechanism, sadly) for a little while. The first time I encountered this instrument, in 1997, it sounded very nice, but it hadn't been tuned since then and when we acquired it it was in sad shape. However, we had it tuned a week or so later and the tuner said that it was A) the oldest instrument he had ever worked on and B) that he didn't see any reason it would need attention within the next year or so. Now it sounds great and I'm so happy. :)
I've played on many different brands. The most challenging was this old upright I owned. It was so old the information on it was faded. It reminded me of an old saloon piano from early 1900's. The action was so tough it was almost impossible to play fast pieces on it. This piano was designed for ragtime music I think or early blues.
Blüthner model one sound Beautiful.
Brilliant! You have very valid , non-messing points here ...before and after best preparation of self ...ear sensitivity training ...self with obedient fingers and whole breathing person as ....team... to deliver best performance with (1) home (2) best practice situation with responding piano (3) concert grand at hall acoustics .... projected to full, half full? etc effects that the ticket sales and 'weather' will inform you. 😉
Какая прекрасная девушка и восхитительная игра! Браво, Чайковский Вами гордится!
I chose a Yamaha AvantGrand N1X hybrid piano as my practice instrument. It has the keyboard of a CFx, the tone of both the CFX and the bosendorfer imperial. As it is a digital instrument (not the keyboard), the thing I love the most is the volume dial. I can retain the bosendorfer sound and protect my ears. The main downside, I find to be a perceptible stepped decay in the sound. But overall, I like the balance between price, keyboard and sound quality.
Love your videos. Keep up the great work.
I think the Imperial sound is way subdued on the N1X. However, it may be improved on Yamaha's new CLP700 series. The CFX is good but a real CFX has so much more sustain, resonance and color. Still, N1X is a very nice instrument. It's good for the price.
All excellent points and underscores a part of concert prep many audience members don't think about. Oh - and your plant needs water! I have a Steinway B that nearly fills all the pre-concert approach needed. Nearly!
You need that concert grand, it suits you well!!
And play it where? Unless you have a room as big as a hall in your home, not only it will not fit, but the sound will not be great at all.
Bigger is not better in any situation, it may have severe limitations.
Yes she sounded amazing, but she had to put much more effort into hitting the keys so maybe it’s not the best choice for her
Great video! I don't play, I listen. I love learning about the instruments.
Since you asked for comments about our own pianos, I have a Yamaha N3X, which is a hybrid. It has an acoustic grand piano keyboard and action (probably very similar to your C2), but digital sound, with samples from the Yamaha CFX and Bosendorfer Imperial. It's nice to have both (and others, including harpsichord) on one instrument, but I bought this, replacing a more ordinary digital piano, to make switching pianos easier. But I bought during quarantine, so I haven't actually tried a different piano yet....
This was brilliant brilliant brilliant... wow
I love the different light you shed on so many areas of piano playing. You really help me a great deal. I am a church hymn player and I do play on three different pianos, home piano, church piano, which is actually a Kawaii keyboard that looks like a grand, but is electronic ( and not my favorite, but we have this as it is easier to lower the pitch…as I am not good enough to transpose on the spot…for some song leaders who have a lower vocal range)…and the piano that I play with my teacher…her piano…an old Steinway, excellent piano, but a little loose due to age. You are such an inspiration in many ways, thank you. 🙏🏼❤️⭐️
As an amateur, I am loving a Weissbrod Eisenberg, also about 170 or so cm long - so expressive! In the next few months I will be able to compare with a few others.
Tomorrow I will have a Yamaha C2 !!! I'm so happy !
Great video! You play very well! I wasn’t aware 97 key pianos were regularly produced. It’s awesome you get to play on one! Also your practice piano is excellent! My uncle who lives relatively close has a Yamaha C2. It has a great feel and sound. My technical skill is nowhere near your level but I play daily and have played on dozens of different pianos. Full sized concert grands have such a heavy touch that it’s a big adjustment. Do you write music as well or mostly perform classical compositions? I find different pianos can be an inspiration for writing and improvisation.
I have a Baldwin grand and a Steinway and love them both. At work I play a Steinway and a Hailun grand. I think my favorite is the Hailun but I feel like It’s not fair to answer such a question without trying all the pianos. I certainly haven’t tried every brand. Every instrument is so different! I think I’ll always be comparing and upgrading.
Hailuns are very, very good. Some dismiss them due to their country of origin but they are essentially Viennese/German designed pianos manufactured (very efficiently) in China.
My Kawai K2 definitely chose me! :) Love the Bosendorfer :)
I practice at home on a digital piano. Because I live in an apartment I need to practice with headphones. I use a Yamaha P95 heavy action keyboard. When playing ANY acoustic I have to lighten my touch. Obviously pianists have to play the piano at the venue. If the piano is a well kept, tuned and voiced for classical I have zero problems playing these pianos. I am fortunate to have access to many 9 foot concert grands at a university, so I can make direct comparisons between Steinway, Baldwin and Mathushek all 9 foot concert grands as well as smaller grands and uprights. This has taught me to play well on all pianos. Depending on the problems of tuning, voicing, key actions it can take up to 4 hours to "learn" the stage piano. Funny when I turn to the Steinway D at the university, it plays itself, I don't need to compensate for anything, I just play the emotions and the rest is on automatic. THAT is a great piano, nothing to change or adapt to.
I have the p125 which is sampled from your model I think. Great for an apartment. But you keep having to take off the headphones to see if you forgot to turn the volume down. I love being able to adjust the acoustics.
I would like to know what you think about digital pianos. I like the way you point out the esential arguments in your considerations.
I wanna cry 😂😂 your piano practice is our great piano in Argentina, great video
Tremendo piano el C2. Para no hablar de que se trata de pianos nuevos, no de pianos con 100 años encima
I already practised on an old Bechstein, an Hammerklavier Original from Beethovens Era, an old Bösendorfer, Yamaha and also some different Steinway&Sons Grand Pianos and Pianos. I have to say, that I prefer to play on Steinway or Yamaha Pianos equally. It may be because the Bösendorfer and Bechstein were really old and not in a good shape, but these seem to have a way harder and slower touch in the keys. Soundwise i do like the deeper touch from Steinway better than the clean Yamaha sound.
By the way I love your channel! Found it because of your 1min-10min-1hour Challenge from La Campanella (which is a piece I'm still not able to play)
Same here - prefer Steinway or Yamaha. Also found this channel because of the La Campanella challenge! Subscribed!
Son instrumentos de diferente medida y están en diferentes lugares tu piano está en desventajas en un espacio reducido igualmente me gustaron ambos pianos ya que eres una ejecutante exelente y le sacas muy buen sonido
For MY purposes (which don't include classical repertoire), my Yamaha controller, and my PianoTeq virtual Steinway D work great!! Digital and virtual pianos are probably a generation or less away from being as useful for classical professionals as they are for those performing in other genres. There is a Johannes Seiler baby grand I've had my eye on for a while for home use, but size and room noise are factors.
Digital and virtual pianos will never feel the same as a real piano.
Pianists train to feel the connection between the mechanics moved inside the piano and the sound and even further incorporating that connection, making the piano and extension of the body. That connection is never as direct and obvious on any kind of digital instrument. Basically you feel that there´s a computer in between you and the sound.
I love my Steinway Model K, a 50-inch upright with more soundboard area than Steinway's smallest grands. Regrettably, it doesn't have a grand action, but it has served me well for 35 years and is still almost as good as new. I've known some fine pianists who were raised on the Model K and regard it highly.
Regarding the Bosendorfer Imperial, I've never played on one myself, but I love the sounds others have gotten from it. Is the fuller/warmer sound purely from the size/mass of the instrument or are the extra low octave strings resonating sympathetically with what is being played????
That is a sensitive treatment of difference among pianos, expecially a concert grand vs. smaller grand. My favourite pianos have a sweet, clear sound, Blüthner (one of which I have) and Beckstein. Actually, most quality German and Eastern European pianos are also preferable to such a sensibility.
interresting video. thank you. i am still with my digital piano lol! but good to know for the future :-)
i have never felt the need to add force to play a 9 foot concert grand, I HAVE felt the need on most pianos to lighten my touch...mainly because of voicing, bad voicing or no voicing for years... means hard hammers in the center of the keyboard and then have to really force the lower pitches, and lighten higher pitches. all while playing light in the midrange. If the stage piano is voiced properly (evenly) for classical I don't have a problem. Tuning and voicing is a skill that is VERY rare, I once visited a Steinway Store in Portland Oregon to help a student choose an used piano. Every piano in that upstairs used floor was absolutely gorgeous to play, every piano was tuned and voiced to perfection. There was not a single bad choice up there. If I ever move to a house and buy an acoustic piano I will learn to tune and voice my own piano. The piano sound is 80% skill of the tuner technician and 20% skill of the manufacturers construction.
Thank you again
Your piano is magnificent!!
The longer strings of the Bosendorfer definitely contribute to its impressive sound because of its much longer sustain before the strings themselves begin to decay. The C2 is impressive already, but the strings of a 5'7" piano will start to lose their vibration sooner than a full 9' piano. In effect, even a C2 can sound "smaller" and less grand.
The Imperial is 11' btw. 😉
Personally, I really like the sound of the modern Bechstein the best but that Imperial was impressive. The Bechstein concert grands have rich lush bass, a singing midrange and that beautiful crystalline bell like treble. It also has a somewhat wet sound ,vs dry, which to me sounds more switched on than say a Steinway. Other pianos sound impressive in places on the keyboard but not across the whole board. I personally have a W. Hoffmann T128 on order that is being delivered in a few days (l can't wait). PS - I really enjoy your videos.
Helpful and great video. Is Yamaha good for daily learning and practicing classic pieces? I’m thinking upgrading to a grand piano for children. Thanks
very interesting channel - subscribed ;-) I really adore Steinways. But i've to admit, that i 've never played on such a concert grand piano...
Yes true
Steinways are very variable. If you play on a lot of them, you notice how different one is from another. They sound like Steinways but different Steinways.
Thanks for sharing. What is your take on develop piano skills on an acoustic piano vs digital piano?
The best piano is the ine you want to play. My wife had a yamaha u2 which is a good upright piano. However we had the opportunity ti get a G2 baby grand which after much work got it playing fairly well. It was played more in the year we had it than the other one did in 10 years, A few years ago my wife and I were in Toronto and went into remenyi pianos to compare. We ended up with a 175cm johannes seiler. It too needed work as do all new pianos but it too gets played every day. A piano needs to be one that invites you to play.
Love your work. FYI, swinging/shaking best described in English as 'vibrating'.
My main instrument is not piano, although I am trying to get back some of the facility I had before I had to give it up. The preferred instruments when I was a kid were all NY Steinways. Everything else was either not as good, or somewhat exotic.
Now that I'm thinking of (a) rehabbing my grandfather's Steinway or (b) getting an upright for the house where I spend much of my time, I am getting interested in a number of different brands. Bechstein and Steingraeber would be my first looks right now, and I have also found some lovely examples by Grotrian. Anything you can say about them would be welcome.
i have a 1948 model d steinway in my home and i love it more than anything else
Im so happy for you 😩🥺🥺
der bösendorfer imperial ist und bleibt einfach mein traumflügel. wusste gar nicht dass die kreissparkasse auch sowas besitzt - aber dafür zahle ich meine kontogebühren natürlich ganz besonders gerne! XD
I was lucky to be locked in a piano store alone for an hour while I tried 11 different grand pianos. I should have taken notes. There was a '21 and '83 Steinway, 2 Yamahas, and an assortment of oddballs. I liked the Schimmel best that particular day. It was very well balanced and had a rich tone that was not excessively shrill in the upper registers, and the action was very uniform and responsive.
is there a comparison video between playing "Klavier" and "Flügel" ? I think the mechanic is totally different so you have to play different. (I guess there are more possibilities in dynamic on a Flügel)
Thanks maam...I always follow u....and doing practice....can you please made a video about touch of left hand when I play arpijeo cord...plz
My personal ranking is
1 - Steinway German D
2 - Kawai EX (love the warmth)
3 - Bösendorfer Imperial 290
4 - Fazioli F278 (haven't tried the 308)
5 - Yamaha CFX
They're all beautiful instruments but I feel like Steinway is pleasant in all dynamics.
I wish I could one day play on the Ravenscroft 275 but those are so rare. 😢
The best instrument I've ever played on, and my favorite, is a Baldwin 6-foot grand at my church. It is simply gorgeous. I've played on a nine-foot Yamaha grand at a University, but the felts had just been replaced so the action and sound felt like a digital piano. 😊 Yamaha uprights have great sound and action as well, but difficult to play quietly on. I think the best when it comes to digital pianos are newer Rolands. They have a really natural touch, perfect action, and a great sound. Oh, that 96 key Bösendorfer? That is SCHWEET!!! Dream piano...
Who knows, maybe with more experience I'd like a Roland, but when I tried all the instruments, I vastly preferred Yamaha's NWX action (at least among instruments with acceptable price. It's still a treat for me to just press a few keys when passing by, even without turning it on :)
Hey, tolles Video! Würde gerne wissen, ob du vllt auch ein Video hochladen könntest, bei dem du dein Klavier neu besaitest und stimmst. Wäre echt cool und interessant zu sehen
Yes, I am also a real grand piano fan and have several grand pianos. It's unbelievable how different they are. But the dimensions are also different. For example, my Estonia 190L weighs 380kg while the Steinway A-188 only weighs 315kg.
And when it comes to hearing, try taking the lid off, then you will hear differently as a pianist.
You must have a big house. A grand piano would take up most of my living room!
@@R.Williams Yes, you are right, I have a large house (a private music school) but also a rented attic apartment in a city. And you don't believe how easily you can place a grand piano in it (under the sloping roof).
@@ScaramouchedaVinci Very cool! 😊
Swings -> vibrates... Anyway, the Imperial is my favorite grand piano. Keep it up!
you are amazing.
Thanks for this very interesting vidéo. Just one question : it seems you play faster on the bosendorfer ... a reason for that ?
frederic MOLL Thank you - yes, the reason is that I recorded this on two different days. The Bösendorfer video was recorded a couple of months ago. Until I recorded the other part I haven’t practiced these pieces and also the interpretation and feeling for tempo is changing with the time;) however, I was also surprised when I was editing this video that it changed so much 😅
very interesting video which explain that pianist s had to adapt their own quality to the quality of differents pianos when they want to play a concert, it's different for others musicians who can have their own instrument....;-)
IIv'e always favored the August Forster pianos myself. There's a kind of sweetenss I value highly. Perhaps not as strong as the Steinway/Bosendorfer giants, more like a Fazioli with a dollop of that Germanic power. But that's just me.
I do own and play an August Förster too and I love it.
Great video. So enjoyable and informative. Have just learned of you this week and subscribed. Look forward to more.
Have been following Guillaume Benoliel, an 8 year old French pianist. Astonishing! Have you seen him?
Inspirational.