Clara Schumann - Piano Concerto in A minor, Op. 7

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  • - Composer: Clara Josephine Schumann {born: Wieck} (13 September 1819 -- 20 May 1896)
    - Orchestra: Alma Mahler Sinfonietta
    - Conductor: Stefania Rinaldi
    - Soloist: Francesco Nicolosi
    - Year of recording: 2004
    Piano Concerto in A minor, Op. 7, written in 1833-1835.
    00:00 - I. Allegro maestoso
    07:07 - II. Romanze: Andante non troppo, con grazia
    12:00 - III. Finale: Allegro non troppo - Allegro molto
    Young Clara Wieck's piano concerto, like that of her future husband Robert Schumann, is in A minor, but that's the only detail the two compositions share. Clara's concerto is the work of an independent-minded young piano virtuoso who, although she was only 13 when she began writing it, was fully aware of the most progressive tendencies of German music in the 1830s. It's true that Robert did have his fingers in this piece; the two were already showing their works in progress to each other and in fact, Robert orchestrated what would in two years become the finale of Clara's three-movement concerto. But it's more Chopin-esque than Schumann-esque. Originally, the Schumann-orchestrated movement stood alone under the titles Concert-Rondo and Concertsatz.
    - The first movement, Allegro maestoso (Clara orchestrated this and the slow movement herself), begins with a serious, almost march-like orchestral introduction interrupted by a brief piano flourish; another orchestral statement follows, then an impressive keyboard cascade that surely later inspired the opening measures of Grieg's Concerto in A minor (Clara's concerto, though the work of a teenager, was quite popular through the nineteenth century). The piano takes over the thematic material with minimal orchestral support; the music has a lightness, a bittersweet flavor, and a digital complexity that suggest the influence of early Chopin and, to a lesser extent, her older Leipzig colleague Felix Mendelssohn. The piano retires, allowing the orchestra to lead the movement out of its development section, but just as it seems the piano is about to launch the traditional cadenza, it instead eases directly into...
    - the slow movement, called "Romanze." This introduces a simple, graceful theme, moving upward in the manner of the main melodies of the outer movements. The piano occasionally offers a few bars of intricate filigree, and eventually it is joined by a solo cello singing the unadorned melodic line while the piano offers a more active, inventive accompaniment. (This anticipates the slow movement of Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No. 2, which is largely a trio for piano, cello, and violin.) Again, a few solo piano gestures lead directly into...
    - the final movement, the first to be composed. This is the most outgoing music so far, but it's still rather stern. It also has something of the polonaise about it, again calling Chopin to mind. (The most obvious model, though, Chopin's Grand Polonaise Brillante, wasn't published in its orchestral form until 1835.) This movement is almost as long as the first two combined. It's cast as a rondo, although the episodes are poorly enough differentiated (and so unified by the polonaise rhythm) that the movement could as easily be regarded as a set of grimly glittering variations.
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  • @canman5060
    @canman5060 5 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    I am so pleased to find out Clara Schumann is my great grand piano teacher.

    • @ianw1976
      @ianw1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Cool. Liszt was my Great-Great Grandfather’s grandteacher.

    • @fryderykchopin1381
      @fryderykchopin1381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      So they came from Frankfurt?

    • @samuel_colson
      @samuel_colson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Beethoven (and Czerny, Salieri and Haydn) was mine! Would be a great (x4) grandteacher. I'm actually convinced most people who've had a conservatory-educated teacher would be able to go back to some very famous names. Still pretty fun to imagine the things you had learned were from Beethoven himself (or Clara).

    • @EPIC-lp1tj
      @EPIC-lp1tj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      O

    • @DC-op6no
      @DC-op6no 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ianw1976 and Liszt was Czerny's Student, Czerny was Beethoven's student

  • @JayveeSonata
    @JayveeSonata 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I'm familiar with many of Clara Schumann's compositions, but I've never heard this concerto before. It is absolutely astounding - - and the fact that she wrote it at such an incredibly young age is mind-blowing. What a superb talent!

  • @MrInterestingthings
    @MrInterestingthings 7 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    i DIDN'T REALIZE SHE WAS ONLY 13 .STUPENDOUS MATURITY HERE AND HARMONICALLY SHE GOES PLACES VERY SURPRISING FOR 1830'S .NO HUMMEL FEYNESS HERE OR fIELD .mUCH MORE ENGAGING !I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW GOOD THIS IS .EXCELLENT PERFRMANCE .IVE HEARD IT 4 OR 5 TIMES AND THIS IS THE 1ST TIME I THOUGHT IT NOT A CHORE TO LISTEN TO !!!!lAST CONCERTO SHE PLAYED IN PUBLIC WAS cHOPIN f minor . Ive heard this and followed score 4 or 5 times since it was posted a decade or more on outube. Bst forgotten like Hummel,Burgmuller(please tell me that hack didnt write a pf concerto.Moskowsky and Moscheles are little more interesting . I want to hear more of her solo works .I would love to see some of her programs asa child she also played Copin op.2 .I cant imagine her playing the rubinstein,Tchaikovsky or even the Brahms d minor but I think she did . Those audiences heard music differently than we do . Her instincts here are good .I'm enjoying it this time more than ever .She knosw when to build and when to capult . Its much better than I previously remember .Slow movement is much better music than I ever remember.This is simly the most musical performance I have heard! .Then again maybe this is a better pianist .When I heard another pianist play Paderewsky concerto in public I thought it was awful wheras on cd I tolerated it .Same with ERubinstein no.4 when Hofmann plays it it is music.Noone else makes it interesting.Reiner too I guess .It takes a mind.

    • @shelleyshao2882
      @shelleyshao2882 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      John Martin just realize too ... god

    • @JD-qd5zp
      @JD-qd5zp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Classroom I started riding the piano concerto when she was 13. I don’t know when she finished it.

    • @Tolstoy111
      @Tolstoy111 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very Chopin-esque though. The e minor ecpecially

  • @zanexiao4488
    @zanexiao4488 6 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    I listened to this piece daily a few years ago when I was still in high school, because I simply liked the melodies. Now finishing my second year in college and with much more knowledge in music theory and history, I return to find this concerto a dazzling masterpiece. This is written around 1833, when John Field and Mendelssohn's piano concertos are super popular. Clara's piece is infinitely more daring in its harmonic language than the former pieces.

    • @blackswan1301
      @blackswan1301 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      wow fuck youre such an intelect

    • @PieInTheSky9
      @PieInTheSky9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@blackswan1301 Loser

    • @mediolanumhibernicus3353
      @mediolanumhibernicus3353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Surely ‘dazzling masterpiece’ goes a little too far. The melodies don’t seem to be of the highest inspiration and the writing is quite conventional, - light years away from her husband’s innovative creations.

    • @gangqinjia81
      @gangqinjia81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      "Daring harmonic language" is a great way to describe this piece. The way she moves to unrelated keys is so creative and mature. First year grad student here and can't get enough of her recurring Ab motif.

    • @mediolanumhibernicus3353
      @mediolanumhibernicus3353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@anzioa I'm not at all denying the achievement of this Wunderkind, and I have always been a huge admirer of Clara Wieck and, after all, if she was beloved by Schumann and Brahms, it's clear that she was an extraordinary person as well as artist. My comment was merely to put into perspective some of the rather overblown comments on the quality of this composition. I stand by my comment; this is n9 masterpiece. It is a precocious and promising work by an undisputed wunderkind who went on to be one of the greatest artists (n.b. not composer) of the 19th century.

  • @albertwong4516
    @albertwong4516 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    She was the Salami of the Schumann-Brahms Sandwich... Only God knows her presence and genius lit the flames of both Schumann and later Brahms... Truly a love story for the ages.

  • @katarzyna2478
    @katarzyna2478 5 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    How many amazing masterpieces composed by the amazing Ladies still quite unknown...

    • @katarzyna2478
      @katarzyna2478 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@eamongriffith280 I think so

    • @mckernan603
      @mckernan603 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Amy Beach’s piano concerto is indeed a masterpiece; not sure about this one but it’s still excellent

    • @mediolanumhibernicus3353
      @mediolanumhibernicus3353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@eamongriffith280 I doubt it.

    • @Yonatan...
      @Yonatan... ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eamongriffith280 yes

    • @bruh7130
      @bruh7130 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Yonatan... Nope

  • @zanexiao4488
    @zanexiao4488 7 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    The cello&piano duo part in the second movement is so beautiful...it touches the deeper side of the soul.

  • @AshleyValentineMusic
    @AshleyValentineMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    There are lots of lovely moments in this concerto but the transition from A minor to C major in III starts at 14:26. The C major version of the theme with the sequence and the bassoon / flute orchestration really is a joy to listen to. Youthful and really quite original I think :)

    • @saleenapiano
      @saleenapiano ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i always love transition from minor to major in piano works, notably Beethoven sonatas; while i prefer minor keys in general because of the melancholia they express, when a major key is played in context of a minor work, for me it somehow has more pathos than a minor key by itself

  • @BaritoneDeLaTorre
    @BaritoneDeLaTorre ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I can say with a strong conviction that she was the most underrated genius in the music of all time...

    • @lkh0120
      @lkh0120 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nope
      Lili Boulanger is the most underrated genius in the music of all time...
      Listen ' Psalm 130 '

  • @alexanderreyes7523
    @alexanderreyes7523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Her work has been the most beautiful thing i have ever heard in my life

  • @ethanl.1699
    @ethanl.1699 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Just listened to it once and it became one of my favorite piano concertos.

  • @assindiastignani
    @assindiastignani 7 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    The piece is very interesting from a number perspectives. First, it gives us a very direct insight into precisely how great a pianist Clara Wieck was. Obviously she had very big hands (even at 13) and commanded every aspect of virtuoso pianism, already at this early age. is it a masterpiece? No. Is it well written? Yes. Written as a vehicle for her as a concert pianist. At no point in musical history was everybody writing masterpieces, and even the ones who did, didn't only turn out supreme masterpieces. These so-called annonymous composers (Moscheles, Czerny, Ries, Dusek, Hummel, etc.) provide the background of the time, and show us what geniuses the Chopin's, Brahms' et. al. really were. When you've heard the operas of Jomelli, Traetta, Piccini, even Christian Bach, etc. then and only then can you realize what an icconoclast and superhuman genius Mozart really was. Anyhow, I love Clara Schumann. Wish I could have heard her play.

    • @Bugleur
      @Bugleur 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      for me it's a masterpiece...

    • @gangqinjia81
      @gangqinjia81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Bugleur for me too. The more I analyze it the more I am amazed by it; Clara really was shockingly creative. It seems pretty snotty to me to decide whether a piece is a masterpiece based on how much publicity it has gotten.

    • @alanleoneldavid1787
      @alanleoneldavid1787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      this is as good anything that chopin composed at 13 , and imo is as good the early concertante works by chopin :
      variations on la ci darem la mano , rondo de concert opus 14 and polish fantasie opus 13 . Of course that is not better than the both chopin piano concertos

    • @alanleoneldavid1787
      @alanleoneldavid1787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      but that is tottaly subjective, is interesting that some great masterpieces were hidden by hundreds of years and today they are mainstream and really famous.
      The magic of the baroque-classical-romantic repertoire is that it can be renewed all the time, because there are hidden works (for example in the imslp file) that at any time can be rediscovered and we can find totally new music even though it was written 200 years ago

    • @ashleighbennett2823
      @ashleighbennett2823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      this is one of my favourite pieces of all time, to me this is definitely a masterpiece. who are you to decide what is and is not a masterpiece?

  • @theresaheidel9878
    @theresaheidel9878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    composed at thirteen years of age,..such a great genius!

    • @zalba5710
      @zalba5710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *15. only a few early sketches were wrote at 13; still very impressive tho!

  • @unstoppableboy9859
    @unstoppableboy9859 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    First movement: 0:01
    Second movement: 7:07
    Third movement: 12:01

    • @Balling117
      @Balling117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same schedule on the shitter

  • @donmigueldecuenca
    @donmigueldecuenca 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Wow, first time I've really heard Clara Schumann -- and encountered a masterpiece. What a loss for us that she never truly had an opportunity to develop her compositional work -- if this is her at age 14, she could have been a giant.

    • @ProfDrislane
      @ProfDrislane ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have a listen to the G Minor Piano Trio!

  • @wesmlr
    @wesmlr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The romance is really beautiful - beautiful idea to have the cello and piano duet.

  • @e.hutchence-composer8203
    @e.hutchence-composer8203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think it’s criminal that so few people are talking about the second movement! How beautiful it is when the cello joins the piano. I really enjoy this movement and am definitely seeing some cross overs with Chopin’s Concerto Op. 11

    • @mediolanumhibernicus3353
      @mediolanumhibernicus3353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also Brahms use of the 'cello in his Bb piano concerto 2nd movement could be a nod to Clara. He was devoted to her.

    • @jmbechtel
      @jmbechtel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mediolanumhibernicus3353 Didn't he boldly and blatantly dedicate many of his compositions to Frau Schumann?

    • @followyouaround
      @followyouaround 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jmbechtel one of them being his op. 118, intermezzo in a major.. the 2nd movement is one of the most beautiful piano pieces ive ever heard :(

  • @dorotheavandrensen
    @dorotheavandrensen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Happy Birthday Clara Schumann!!!

  • @user-se7zm6wj5i
    @user-se7zm6wj5i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this piano concert by Clara Schumann! A very nice and of great talent work!

  • @fulviopolce9785
    @fulviopolce9785 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Un concerto pienamente romantico, scritto a 14-16 anni ,da un musicista in gonnellina . Incredibile.Una ragazza prodigio,visto anche l'orchestrazione tutt'altro che convenzionale. Un gioiello la Romanza.
    Ottima la prestazione. Un ringraziamento a Olla per il caricamento e le note di consulenza a supporto.

  • @harryandruschak2843
    @harryandruschak2843 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've heard other uploads of this concerto, but it is always worth another hearing :)

  • @ziegunerweiser
    @ziegunerweiser 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Finally got around to listening to all of her music I have become addicted to her g minor sonata, a work of surprising originality and substance that stands up to anything.

  • @thomasramdasvoegeli
    @thomasramdasvoegeli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sagenhaft. Mir neu. Von einer Dreizehnjährigen geschrieben. Dicht, dicht, dicht, faszinierend, Romantik pur, und null nicht keine banalen Längen darinne. Alles dichte Aussage. Danke, Clara, danke, gute Geister. Und auch danke ich für das Einstellen hier.

  • @snowcarriagechengcheng-hun3454
    @snowcarriagechengcheng-hun3454 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for uploading!

  • @PauloCesarMaiadeAguiar
    @PauloCesarMaiadeAguiar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing and divine melody. Many thanks for to share this dear Fantastic

  • @williambunter3311
    @williambunter3311 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wonderful!!

  • @rudiw220741
    @rudiw220741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    9:42“ Piano und Cello in einem wunderbaren Duett.

  • @ourmindonmusic
    @ourmindonmusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great work… especially by such a young composer. The FINALE though! What can I say? Stunning? Surprising in its depth of dynamic! Amazing! I feel like I’m on a rollercoaster.

  • @lindatschoepe3235
    @lindatschoepe3235 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Go to The New Millennium Chamber Orchestra concert tonight or tomorrow afternoon in Palo Alto, CA. My sister, Donna Coleman, is playing this piece. She is a master musician and calls this piece a masterpiece! I'm so excited for her.

    • @lgreatwood6702
      @lgreatwood6702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The same Donna Coleman who has taught in Australia? If so, she taught my high school piano teacher when she was at uni! Small world.

  • @johnmoyer4745
    @johnmoyer4745 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before today I wasn't familiar with Clara Wieck- Schumann's music. Just her husband's. So glad I got turned on to this. Thank you for the posting.

  • @firenzarfrenzy4985
    @firenzarfrenzy4985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard this on the car radio and I just had to look for it. Thank you Clara!

  • @L.Frank2000
    @L.Frank2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing it with us.

  • @paulklevgard2194
    @paulklevgard2194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This concerto merits the concert hall!

  • @avmclassic
    @avmclassic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grande Maestro Nicolosi ..Bravi tutti .. un segno nella Storia Grazie !!!!

  • @firiel2366
    @firiel2366 5 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    "I once believed that I possessed creative talent, but I have given up this idea; a woman must not desire to compose-there has never yet been one able to do it. Should I expect to be the one?" -- Clara Schumann
    This absolutely breaks my heart. /This/ is why representation is important; if a woman wants to be a successful composer, she shouldn't have to live with the idea that she's the only one. I so wish Clara could have known of the incredibly gifted female composers who came before her, and of all those who would look up to her in the future. She was not alone. I'm thankful she composed what she did, though.

    • @mediolanumhibernicus3353
      @mediolanumhibernicus3353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Who are 'the incredibly gifted women composers who came before Clara Schumann'? The well kind of runs dry after Hildegard von Bingen....

    • @gangqinjia81
      @gangqinjia81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@mediolanumhibernicus3353 Barbara Strozzi, Francesca Caccini, Isabella Leonarda, Wilhemina of Bayreuth, her sister Anna Amalia, Elizabeth Jacquet de la Guerre, Maria von Martinez, Veronika Dusikova Cianchettini, Louise Farrenc, Fanny Hensel, Gertrude van den Bergh, Marianna Bottini... Those are just a few highlights off the top of my head, there are dozens more. Search Oxford Music or just Google

    • @gangqinjia81
      @gangqinjia81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      This is a beautiful description of why diversity in music education matters! ♥️ thank you for this comment.

    • @classicalmusic1175
      @classicalmusic1175 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@seeyouneverp9158 Stop throwing insults around and engage in a proper debate instead. These people have said something you obviously disagree with, so why not counter them with an actual argument?

    • @mikedaniels3009
      @mikedaniels3009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No hard feelings. She was right. She was NO composer, but "merely" a voice to her hubby composer and others. Whereas the following females were/are composers in their own right and created lasting masterpieces: Dolly Parton, Carole King, Beegie Adair and Stephanie Trick though they're mainly performers, Aretha Franklin, Billie Holliday, Mahalia Jackson, Nina Simone, Winnie Atwell, Nahre Sol,... Feel free to complete the list...

  • @davidegaramella2873
    @davidegaramella2873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great piano concerto, very Chopin-like with much piano virtuoso part and orchestra as accompaniment

  • @avmclassic
    @avmclassic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Complimenti e grazie a tutti gli Artisti

  • @filipadam7087
    @filipadam7087 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    fantastic music

  • @oniityanh6579
    @oniityanh6579 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    love this

  • @user-ec8rm9hr8q
    @user-ec8rm9hr8q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic 👍🎹🎵

  • @PianoScoreVids
    @PianoScoreVids 7 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    20:58
    Chopin 1st piano concerto ? Same harmonies, orchestra? Nobody ?

    • @PianoScoreVids
      @PianoScoreVids 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Rebecca2001 I was just referring to this little part, but you said it beautifully, they are really completely different as composers. There are only harmonical or general similarites, being romatic composers. Clara I do not know too much.

    • @zanexiao4488
      @zanexiao4488 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Sigh...Chopin knew and was influenced by Hummel's music yes, but to say Chopin's style is not his is pretty absurd, eh? Hummel studied and emulated Mozart, who owe much of his music education and understanding of the keyboard from CPE Bach. Shall we say then everything is CPE Bach's style?

    • @beni2001du69
      @beni2001du69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally

    • @mediolanumhibernicus3353
      @mediolanumhibernicus3353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Chopin has a much higher level of musical inspiration.

    • @GaleRianes
      @GaleRianes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really so. Just romanticism.

  • @felixdevilliers1
    @felixdevilliers1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    In the comments below Clara gets a lot of deserved enthusaism but also some contra voices. It does noit matter that Beethven and others wrote 'greater' concertos, this work is a delight in itself. It would be like saying that Schumann's Kreiseliana are a geater work than his Papillons, the latter have something entriely of their own to offer. Impressive is the way Clara spontaneously develops her material as she goes along: there is a freshness and originality about it all.If I were a concert pianist, this work would defnitely be in my repertoire. I can listen to it over and over again. I listened to a concerto by Field for comparison, the mature Field is obviously a greater master of what he is doing but his music becomes monotonous and boring, Clara never for a second. Most of the great composers - excepting Schumann - start with a fairly pompous orchestral exposition: not Clara - she breaks the exposition into little inventive pieces that go in different directions but obviously with an aim behind them that breaks out when the piano arrives.

    • @ourmindonmusic
      @ourmindonmusic ปีที่แล้ว

      Doubters? Listen to Measure 132 onward. Doubts dispelled. 😊

  • @ximenan6327
    @ximenan6327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Breathtaking.

  • @elenaf7673
    @elenaf7673 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is pure beauty

  • @user-ru8vy1uz7c
    @user-ru8vy1uz7c 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bravo brilliance concerto

  • @Musicienne-DAB1995
    @Musicienne-DAB1995 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an astonishing piece!

  • @janethu9169
    @janethu9169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful

  • @resorcinolamide
    @resorcinolamide 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I want this concerto to be my debut concerto so I better start practicing this piece :3

    • @AvelTheCat
      @AvelTheCat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How's it going

  • @stefaniagiannotta6057
    @stefaniagiannotta6057 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Buona l'esecuzione e la direzione. Emerge l'elemeto pianistico sebbene di facile scrittura. . Clara Shumann fu inequivocabilmente una grandissima interprete.

  • @charlotteandromache
    @charlotteandromache 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is timeless beauty

  • @bugatti103
    @bugatti103 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    bravo! excellent music

  • @TheOferwexenfeld
    @TheOferwexenfeld 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice thank you

  • @jocelynbond3645
    @jocelynbond3645 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    good music!

  • @minghaogong2343
    @minghaogong2343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That runs into Robert's F# minor sonata. Such a beautiful Romanze!

    • @georgel2201
      @georgel2201 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True , Schumann often borrowed themes from Clara's compositions

  • @chrissahar2014
    @chrissahar2014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I enjoy so much the earlyh works fo Clara Schumann, great stuff for an extremely gifted composer. However, her career shows the difficulty of trying to maintain a livelihood as a performer and still compose as well as being married to a gifted composer who eventually becomes institutionalized due to mental illness. Clara is the great example of the great shadows care takers leave behind and in the 19th century there was very little support for her to continue as a composer. I would have loved to see where she would have gone from this concerto --- it is a great amalgam of Mendelssohn, Chopin and early Wagner. You can hear how Schumann learned from Clara!

    • @followyouaround
      @followyouaround 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      after she married she could barely even practice the piano because it interfered with robert's composing. apparently the only time she could freely practice was when he was out for drinks at a tavern. it's very sad to think about all the things she could have accomplished if she weren't so busy busy getting pregnant 10 times and being a housewife

  • @leungyatchun9552
    @leungyatchun9552 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Listen it together with Robert Schumann’s piano concerto, the pieces are like a pair of twins.

  • @Lea-yb7tx
    @Lea-yb7tx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    22:09 😍😍😍😍😍😍

  • @jackieloosley0721
    @jackieloosley0721 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish Clara Schumann would have written more piano concertos and Robert to

  • @TheImperialChannel
    @TheImperialChannel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *01:45** Clara Schumann's phrasing here and onwards is just exquisite.*

  • @Ferrichrome
    @Ferrichrome 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice cello solo. gonna try and play it!

  • @chrisyo4461
    @chrisyo4461 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was great

  • @nicolasantoro4049
    @nicolasantoro4049 ปีที่แล้ว

    Masterpiece

  • @Pouffecal
    @Pouffecal 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    C'est vraiment très bon, vraiment.

  • @manetmonetimp
    @manetmonetimp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    this is very beautiful music to listen to . it's beyond me why would you bother listening if you think it's crap. go do something better in your life than hurling stones at Clara Schumann beautiful music

  • @johannabopp6488
    @johannabopp6488 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Research shows that Clara Schumann's accomplishments as both a concert pianist and composer were highly regarded by the likes of Mendelssohn, Liszt, Chopin, Brahms, and Goethe. I invoke those names here, not to validate her work through male opinion, but because they were prominent figures of the time and they considered her their peer. She composed this work around the ages of 13-16 which is a fantastic display of her already accomplished skill as a composer. Her later works obviously are even more accomplished and mature. Having a concert career which rivaled that of Liszt became the focus for her as she was the primary breadwinner throughout the duration of their marriage, and wanted to provide an environment where Robert could focus on his compositions. With all her time devoted to her concert career and in raising their eight children, I often wonder what Clara would have further accomplished as a composer had she been able to take more opportunity.

    • @peterjongsma2754
      @peterjongsma2754 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Johanna Bopp
      Thanks for the bio.Clara was an amazing woman.
      Wife,Mother,Composer,Performer,Care giver,Inspiration, Companion of the Greats.Child prodigy, Hard worker.
      What a life.

    • @mediolanumhibernicus3353
      @mediolanumhibernicus3353 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which among her later works would you describe as a mature masterpiece? I'm curious.

  • @Lea-yb7tx
    @Lea-yb7tx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    19:38 😱😍

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      LING LING!!!

  • @e.hutchence-composer8203
    @e.hutchence-composer8203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    No one will write a slow movement as beautiful as Chopin, however Clara comes pretty close to rivalling him, especially with that piano and cello duo.

    • @guii8993
      @guii8993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      you would be shocked with the ability other composers had to write slow movements

    • @SaintSaens0
      @SaintSaens0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Rachmaninoff 2 2nd movement is better than any Chopin 2nd movement imo

    • @Dylonely42
      @Dylonely42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SaintSaens0 No. I love it too, but we all can have our own opinion.

    • @etiennedelaunois1737
      @etiennedelaunois1737 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SaintSaens0 not really the same period though. 😕

    • @SaintSaens0
      @SaintSaens0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@etiennedelaunois1737 True, and rach learned a lot from Chopin. And it is really hard to define what beautiful even means, both composers are pretty good at second movements.

  • @BryanHo
    @BryanHo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressive for a 13-year-old. I hope her music gets more serious attention as it deserves.

  • @WayneYLeigh
    @WayneYLeigh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    She wasn't particularly using Chopin as a model. Both of them modelled their concerti after thr beautiful examples by Hummel and Field, which were the standard fare of that time.

    • @milton3204
      @milton3204 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chopin was inspired by Hummel and Field, sure. Clara Wieck was obviously emulating Chopin, here. It's on record that she heavily studied Chopin's concertante works (Op. 2, the e and f minor concerti, grande polonaise brillante op. 22) around the time she wrote this work. Even without that knowledge, it's quite clear she is a lot closer to Chopin here than Field and Hummel.

  • @williambunter3311
    @williambunter3311 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    By the way - are the few thumbs-down, shown above, the result of accidently ticking the wrong hand, or are there really and truly some soul-dead individuals out there incapable of enjoying a masterpiece of dramatic beauty, and one played with great style and feeling, not to mention the required technical virtuosity? Casting pearls etc....?

    • @olla-vogala4090
      @olla-vogala4090  7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Not sure I'd call this piano concerto a masterpiece, but I don't really understand the downvotes either...

    • @philippeherman5752
      @philippeherman5752 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sommige mensen op de pagina praten alsof ze de uitvinder zijn van klassieke piano-muziek

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some people don't like some things.

    • @ethanl.1699
      @ethanl.1699 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably thought it was to long

  • @reijokinnunen5480
    @reijokinnunen5480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    And Clara's Concerto was composed 1833. Robert's was composed later 1845.

  • @giancarlofilacchione7371
    @giancarlofilacchione7371 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Considerato quanto Clara era stata brava nel comporre questo concerto per pianoforte, avrà saputo apprezzare al massimo, quello composto dal marito; e a lei dedicato!

  • @natalianowak567
    @natalianowak567 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Has anybody notes for second piano (Orchestra) in pdf for example?

  • @angelacd427
    @angelacd427 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ♥️♥️♥️

  • @diogenes2763
    @diogenes2763 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Belleza

  • @goldscepter4861
    @goldscepter4861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A perfect complement to her husband's Concerto in A minor.

    • @Tolstoy111
      @Tolstoy111 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it has a lot more in common with Chopin's e minor

  • @janethu9169
    @janethu9169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Robert Schumann is a German composer and music critic.

  • @likeabirdinthesky
    @likeabirdinthesky 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i’ll never get tired of 18:10

  • @rileyspringer6899
    @rileyspringer6899 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    yeah

  • @SCRIABINIST
    @SCRIABINIST 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The second movement almost sounds Chopin-esque, same goes for the third Movement. What a pity Clara didn't compose much

  • @jorgegarzaelli6238
    @jorgegarzaelli6238 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Musica con toda la sensibilidad de una mujer........que mas se puede pedir? Desde la fuerza a la delicadez, solo un paso breve y profundo - desde Argentina con afecto

    • @sloexit
      @sloexit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gracias por su amable y perspicaz comentario.

  • @ziegunerweiser
    @ziegunerweiser 8 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    A short bit about the Schuman Wieck relationship. Her father must haven been one of the great teachers in all Europe so try to imagine being born into that, I imagine a little girl who played piano from the very beginnings of her life, I have no doubt she had conquered and was fluent in the Bach Beethoven Chopin language playing even the most difficult pieces with the same ease as riding a bicycle I'm guessing by 8 or 9 she could have toured her entire life. Now as one of her father's students Robert Schumann about 9 years older, must have been studying with her father when she was very young. There is really something about seeing a woman with that kind of talent I think Schumann must have had feelings for her when she was very young. Schumann was on par to become a world class virtuoso when he hurt his hand and was forced to live the life of a composer. Eventually the two must have had an attraction which her father strongly opposed. So I can imagine the things going on inside Schumann how he must have been so envious of her ability. She stopped composing when they married but I think a creative mind like that you can't just turn it off, I think she gave many ideas to her husband and in some cases wrote almost the entire piece with a few edits and let him take the credit. What do you think about that? I also think about how his envy may have helped lead to his insanity, wishing for a life he could never have must have been so frustrating and disappointing especially after coming so close I'm sure he must have fealt he could taste it.

    • @olla-vogala4090
      @olla-vogala4090  8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +scottbos68 Yes I think she was very talented indeed, her misfortune of course was that she was born at a time when it was frowned upon to be a female composer. Alma Mahler had the same problem, and Amanda Röntgen-Maier, etc.

    • @ziegunerweiser
      @ziegunerweiser 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fannie Mendelssohn !

    • @isaiasramosgarcia9771
      @isaiasramosgarcia9771 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +olla-vogala Robert never oposed to her composing intents, but encouraged her

    • @ziegunerweiser
      @ziegunerweiser 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have to consider she lived in a time when women could not vote or even own property, I think women were for the most part considered property and in some cases a bargaining tool. It's not much of a stretch trying to imagine the difficulties for a woman trying to become a world renowned soloist or composer, although I think singers may be a possible exception. Singers have always been more popular and made more money than instrumentalists.

    • @isaiasramosgarcia9771
      @isaiasramosgarcia9771 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      she had studies in singing

  • @MrTikkala
    @MrTikkala 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful! Dir.mus. Esa Tikkala, Rovaniemi Lappland

  • @canman5060
    @canman5060 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Clara was only 18 when she wrote this.

    • @gangqinjia81
      @gangqinjia81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      14 actually, she started work on the third movement in early 1833 and premiered the final three movement work in November 1835

  • @josemanuelmallo
    @josemanuelmallo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm surprised by the chopinesque style of the music

    • @jackjack3320
      @jackjack3320 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Chopin copied Hummel's piano concertos. Stop saying this is Chopin's style. It's Hummel's

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes I hear chopinesque bits all through it.

  • @Seekthetruth3000
    @Seekthetruth3000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good concerto.

  • @kimsahl8555
    @kimsahl8555 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As many many other small composer, becomes this op.7 spiritually squeezed of the great Beethoven (op 37/73) Chopin (op 11/21) ......

  • @Dekko-chan
    @Dekko-chan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I expected piano, but this sounds amazing
    Sadly, its too long for a simple walkman mp3

  • @trumblez
    @trumblez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tolles Lied es ist fast nach meinem Geschmack erinnert mich ein bisschen an die Filmmusik von Piratenfilmen

    • @trumblez
      @trumblez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Erinnert mich an die Musik von pirates of the carribean wollte ich sagen

  • @morganhayes8641
    @morganhayes8641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The expressive main theme of the slow movement could work nicely for the purposes of ballet class.

  • @karenl.7058
    @karenl.7058 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this. It's so beautiful. I'm happy that she is getting her due in recent years. I'm not a trained musician, so I didn't know her story until I saw the movie where Katherine Hepburn played her. I love the fact that she was appreciated and famous in her time. It's unfortunate that she was forgotten afterward for so long. She was a progressive and strong woman. She would fit into our time! I actually prefer her music to her famous husband.

  • @snapshooterrandy
    @snapshooterrandy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will agree with those that say there's a resemblance to Chopin's 1st piano concerto! It only took one listen for me to make the same comparison, and yes, I'm also a fan of Hummel. I think this is a beautiful concerto and plan on enjoying it again, but there will always be the remembrance of reading in some liner notes that Clara criticized Robert's piano concerto saying the last movement wasn't inventive (or showy) enough. I love the Robert Schumann piano concerto so much. And there's the theory of her having an affair with Brahms. "Clara Schumann and Brahms were intimate friends for 40 years, and it's only logical to conclude that they consummated their relationship at some point." Brahms and Clara Schumann lived together after Robert Schumann entered the asylum.

  • @enzosarcina6994
    @enzosarcina6994 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    someone have musical score???

  • @noashperber3515
    @noashperber3515 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    where did you get the sheet music?

  • @classicfan4683
    @classicfan4683 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gefälliges Stück... Verdient, öfter gehört zu werden (auch wenn es in die 'Hall of Fame' wohl nicht aufgenommen werden dürfte...)

  • @lindsaygroves9188
    @lindsaygroves9188 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do we find out who the piano trio performers are?

  • @odedfried-gaon2880
    @odedfried-gaon2880 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Intense beauty.
    #OdedFriedGaon #OdedMusic #OdedLengthySonicMasterpieces #Audioded

  • @spencer2432
    @spencer2432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bye wait i’m here bc of a Criminal Minds fic- this is such a pretty piece

    • @lyricbot8513
      @lyricbot8513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmaooo fanfiction continues to connect people to amazing music, I see.

  • @tj-co9go
    @tj-co9go 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not to be confused with the concerto by Robert Schumann, in A minor

  • @janethu9169
    @janethu9169 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Robert Schumann wife. Both are great friends of Brahms.