Congratulations Yakko, you have officially made your transition from “popular by tangential relation” to “Gacha Boy”. Your reward is a horde of ravenous fans that will always ask you to review their favorite gacha game and the crushing sensation that you will never be able to recapture the good ole days. Nice!
@@xrosslegends1279 its more-so the sound (gasha) you get from vending machine-dispensed capsule toys and because of the same nature these games have with said machines gacha games were born as a term
re: that bit at 5:29 about gachas being sustained by a few players who pay thousands - that checks out for sure. one of my college professors used to develop games for a few different studios in japan, and he worked on a now-defunct gacha game at one point. there was one, single player the devs all *knew by name* because he was spending so much money that he was the main person funding their game and paying their paychecks. he'd call support and they'd legitimately be like, oh shit, it's him, get him a direct line to the devs, because they wanted him specifically to be as happy with the game as possible.
Wait... Did they really decided to not only wipe every user's progress on a JoJo gacha but also changed it's core gameplay from real time to turn based????? And no money refunded???? Yeah no wonder it died lmao.
My favorite gacha-game is league of legends - in that game, you always get 4 random-characters to help you in your team, and if the enemy got better characters, you are kinda fucked. Love that game.
Or you could.. Try to work with them? Sometimes I think people don't realize it's a team fighting game. Most of those people exclusively play marksman or fighters.
@@BloodsailAdmiralTdk no i think its more of a 1v1 with you having beginner-bots and your opp having intermediate ones. all your lanes lose and you get to fight that one guy on the enemy team thats always slightly more fed than you
Arknights is so f2p friendly it broke my tendency to whale. It's the only gacha game I can play anymore because of this 'cuz I'm too tempted to spend on others.
One thing I really like about arknights and I sadly don't find in any other gacha game, is that you just could play and mess up with the game and there is so much more to do than just clear a level with the most optimal team, I feel like in most gacha RPG (like epic seven, the other one I play) there not much uniqueness into each unit (at least in term of possibility) and even while there can be some great/cool unit combo, in the end, all you can do is clear the content the way it is intended to. Meanwhile, in AK you can bring up meme strat, cheese some level, clear hard stage with some the weakest character in the game and mess up with the fucking game physics, and it feels so refreshing, I really wish more mobile game will allow us to do these kinds of thing in the future.
@@s0leil883 I know right?My Greninja could've swept the long ass tower but of course they didn't wanna try it. The story was also somewhat interesting too (more interesting that Sword and Shield atleast lol) and they couldn't even managed that.
Okay hear me out here. Instead of being on average predatory af with monetisation, not even pay for heavy advantage rather to win, being a gambling system hidden behind game play etc. Why don't you...idk NOT bake the horrible practice into the game from the start, sure you want that character? Let you outright buy it, membership sure to an extent. Even daily login bonuses, and random loot sure. But don't defend the entire system because it has a cute waifu, and hey I am someone that loves video games, manga, anime etc. Also I have no bloody idea why I was even suggested this video as I avoid games like this due to being broke af irl and being vulnerable to those mechanics.
Sadly still in a bad spot. There are people that just pull for the sake of grudge to 1 ko everything than actual take your time which js the game main focus (sadly the progression is too slow) and then proceed to complain said it's too easy which is no shit you spend thousands bucks without realize it lol you got brunout and still complain with full regret.
@@chenchen6150 It's a core reason why whales are a detriment in the long run. Whales who got all the opest units complain they have nothing to do so the next update introduces some new gimmick that is unbeatable unless you get some brand new units designed specifically to tackle this new gimmick and by COMPLETE COINCIDENCE are on a banner right now, so they get those, which by collateral makes the previous endgame stuff piss easy so they complain the game is too easy so the devs introduce some new gimmick and so on. Meanwhile 99% of the playerbase gets blocked from all the new content and events because they dared to not spend the GNP of a small country like those other players.
Honestly the way that FGO make you spend money is so big brain. At first glance, the way they make money just seems down right silly, as they don’t have any booster pack or something to incentivize spending money on the game.They don’t really make the player deal with AP problem unless you’re super invested in the or game or you just want to flex as the developers constantly bombards the player with GA. Not only that, the cost for the packs for SQ is just down right ridiculous at first glance. I mean $100 for like about 62 total worth of summons. The only real way they fact that they constantly release limited servant banner. By itself, it wouldn’t be that bad, but combine the banner with the story that they write for those limited banner servant is what really makes you spend money on the game. The problem I have most gacha game is that the character that they release for each banner is just boring. Sure they have their dialogues and their maybe skins, but other than that, they rarely have any anything to help them be flesh out as a character. This thus result in them being quite rarely pulled, at least for me, as I just don’t see the worth in them. That’s why, whenever I play the game, I only summon for characters that are either OP or a character that have made appearance in the game’s story. And that’s why FGO is just so ingenious. Almost every servant that is in the limited banner have an event or some sort of story for the character, and with these stories, story writers makes you understand who the characters are and how they are like. The story right make us understand their personality and make us understand just how cool these character. They make the character feel real, as degenerate as that sounds, and that what makes people, at least for me, want to pull for them. Take James Moriarty for example. In FGO, he’s a pretty boring character at first glance, a suspicious looking old man with a gun coffin that he can ride... okay maybe boring isn’t really a great way to describe him, but his kit isn’t really that strong or cool. So he was released along with chapter 1 of EoR, where James was the focus of the that chapter. At first, I wasn’t planning to pull for him, since he really wasn’t that strong, I already had like 3 other units that does his role but better, and I was saving for Ereshkigal, who is best girl. However, after finishing the chapter, I begin pulling for him, simply because he became such a likable character. It’s honestly scary how the developers drive people to spend money on that game, they don’t constantly force ads at your face or constantly force you to look at their “Special Offer”, which they don’t have (unless you count the Guaranteed SSR banner). The way they make you spend money on the is by making you do it on your volition. It can be best described with this meme: When you accidentally spent all your SQ for “bait” banner *SQ pack* : You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me.
Victor Yang That's the kind of way I like my gacha games to be. FGO shows care with their characters. If they can make you fall in love with a fictional character for a mobile game, that's saying something. They could've went the powercreep direction, and force players to spend, but no, they make sure all their characters come with a well laid out story.
As a free to play player, i feel like gachas are basically testing your luck, cause if you get shit characters it can be so boring but if you get good ones you feel like you can keep going on forever
Lucky you, I got an ad for Raid: Shadow Legends, Hero Wars, and that Seven Deadly Sins gacha back to back without the ability to skip, AND I HAD ADBLOCK ON!
I legit love the song Speed of Light from that ad, it at the very least is way more palatable then Raid. Honestly almost all mobile games I get into are because I love the OST that I had listen to.....though even I have my gatcha achilles heel......(looks side-ways at Love Live)
I always thought the difference was that the features you mentioned for PC games were always considered problematic whereas in the gatcha community they're just normalised to uncomfortable degrees.
as someone who's been playing gacha games for almost 7 or 8 years(i forgot jesus christ) summoning is probably the only fun part of the game when you go to the game first time, and you end up getting addicted to the gameplay just to get gems/summoning currencies just to get your wives/husbands
been playing dragalia lost since it came out, and it's the only one that I've genuinely enjoyed after a long period of time. I took so many screenshots of the april fools dog
ngl, I totally relate when you said that it's difficult to get into a gacha unless you're in from day one. The only 2 gacha games I ever spent money on, fire emblem heroes and yugioh duel links (duel links is pretty much a gacha at this point) I've only been able to not get lost in thanks to starting from day 1 or having background info in them. All the other games I try are always feel like I missed 2 months to several years worth of content and free premium currency that I can't keep up with everything
Ya know what sucks? Being a game designer looking for jobs and seeing a lot of available jobs are from mobile game developers looking for designers that are skilled in predatory monetizing design. Then strongly considering it, swallowing your pride and virtues because you need a job. While I have considered it, thankfully I haven't gone that route in my career. I feel sorry for any designers that have.
@@mr.miscellaneous1079 like any good meme tutorials, blender is a fully-fledged free 3d animation software, and a lot of people have been trying it out recently! I'd watch a beginners tutorial if you're really interested, but I imagined yakko downloaded the character model from online, rigged a puppet of it, and then animated it.
I remember when magica record first released the English servers and I was super excited, having found the news right after watching anime it was based off of. I preordered it and played it everyday, until it it died unfortunately.. all I remember is feeling so badass with my 5*rena minami, and playing while I was supposed to be paying attention to class. the only thing that it actually gave me was that I realized I needed Joan d'ark as a magical girl, other than that.. I'm glad I was a poor child cause I would have definitely blew all my money for my waifus
And I'm still mad about it Not long after the whole fanfare as well with the first original magical girl debut for english server, the anime adaptation, and the next arc teaser I'm still bitter about it
Recently I checked the storage of my phone and I had 50GB of just apps, mostly gacha games. A lot of gacha games I install but never play, this video most definitely inspired me to truly consider what games are worth keeping and what games aren't worth the time that I could use to be doing something else.
I just quit as soon as i find daily logins and missions become a chore To find myself browse the appstore looking for another gacha game to sink 10 hours a day into
Arknights is great, all you literally need to do is play the game, the dailies just complete themselves. It's also incredibly fun, I've been playing for a few days and it hasn't gotten boring, unlike other games I've tried.
Thanks for the recommendations, been an arknights player since day one and rly enjoying it. I tried out afk arena as well and its really fun, tho maybe bc its an old server i cant quite keep up with pvp, everyone is 1M power and above 😅
Microtransactions do in fact make them bad games, they are intentionally made worse so you pay to make it better. There is no such thing as a good faith microtransaction, they were created specifically to siphon money from the vulnerable.
Great video and GREAT editing. Gacha games are, in a nutshell, a chase that never ends (sorta). We have polled over 1,000 people asking why they play gacha games and it all came down to the fact that they love the chance of getting something rare. Remember those mystery box subscriptions a year or two ago, when they were popular? It was all the craze and all the youtubers were opening them. And people were buying them because they wanted to get surprised, since a lot of us lead mundane lives (which is absolutely fine) and so we just sometimes need that rush of dopamine to feel more alive. And in the end, you do end up with a nice .jpeg of your favorite waifu :)
I have only played for a long period of time two gachas, destiny child and fgo. Destiny child i stoped playing bc i got tired of autoing quests while looking at bouncing anime tiddies, but i still play fgo every day, sure i know that the chances on fgo are some of the lowest on the gacha market but i still think it's one of the best ones out there bc 1. it actualy tries to be a game unlike many other gacha with story characthers and things you care about and not just some excuse for me to pay money 2. sure SSR characthers will most of the time be more efficient but almost all of the characthers in the game can be used for any type of activity no matter their rarity you just have to invest enough time and resources into them and finaly 3. the only thing you can buy is the currency wich you use to pefform pulls, not resources and you can directly buy a single characther, does this make it a pain getting your favourite servant, but it makes so the game never is direcly pay to win or pay to play. out of all of the gachas i've played fgo gave me the best experience and it's still a pretty fun game, i may be a little inclined to like it bc i like the fate franchise but at least this game is way more forgiving than any other gachas
Just one "mistake" is you can buy a servant but for that you had to be a massive whale. The Unregistered Spirit Origin "Summoning the same 5★ Servant for the 6th time and beyond" Which is super rare. Everything else I agree. Specially like saint quatz only give you the SSR, but if you want to level it up and his skills you will need to farm. And farm a lot. No money will make the SSRs level up I have been playing FGO for two years now, I have put some money and I won't say I made any friends to be worthy but I really enjoy the non PVP part of the game, the story/novel, and also the type of game where you play on your on and don't need to depend on anybody. It's fun, but yeah their gacha is the most ungrateful. I thought other games like Honkai Impact had better gatcha system but their game didn't hook me in.
I’ve been playing F/GO and DFFOO for years, hell since they dropped in JP, and the amount of time and strategy into those games that I have so much fun to this day lol so I hate when gachas get a bad rep for being bad :p
tl dr, gacha games sucks, friends are the only thing that made people keep playing these games. if you're playing gacha games and feel like your wasting time, well it's because you are wasting your time. and when you feel fomo. ask yourself, "what am i missing out?", your missing out on nothing pls if you're addicted to gacha games and you paid on those games. pls quit the faster you quit the better your life will be. ask yourself "what benefit will i get if i quit these gacha games?" for me as an example: more time, no preassure from limited predatory events/banner, and so much more that you can't think as of yet. addiction is addiction, pls love yourself and quit these predatory games.
i think arknights is an example of a gacha game done extremelly well. i started playing the game roughly a month after release, and i have yet to spend any money on it, but i've still cleared just about everything in the game and i have some of the best characters. they give you a lot of the premium currency for free during events (which i usually spend on skins), and give you several guaranteed 5 stars as well as a guaranteed 6 star at the start (6 stars are the highest). also, it is possible to clear the whole game's story using no 6 stars and only the 5 stars you are guaranteed to get. (such as Amiya)
When you mentioned aggressive advertising it reminded me of AFK arena. I downloaded AFK arena when it launched on mobile and was enjoying it for a while. But every time I saw an ad that was a blatant lie about the gameplay, I started to get irritated at the game itself. I played for a while, but I got so fed up with the ads I uninstalled after about a month of playing.
Leaving gacha games is quite challenging. I used to play hearthstone myself. And I wasted a lot of money on preorders (probably 120$ at least). Once I realised that nothing ever really changed, especially how blizzard treats their game, I left the game. It's been almost 1,5 years since, and I'm very happy with my decision
Maybe it's a me thing but I find it very hard to quit these kinds of games (mobile and gacha) due to habits I develop involving them. Like, what are you gonna do when you're on a bus to work/school/wherever? - you have a farming session in your fav game. When you've been doing that for long enough it's pretty hard to just stop doing it, it becomes an addiction like smoking, it takes effort to stop doing it. It took me months to actually stop playing games I didn't want to play anymore and I wasn't even doing anything productive in them.
The problem with gacha games is how stressful and boring it becomes with time, it's not like you can sit on your couch the weekend and end a game, like prey or mirror's edge, gacha games NEVER ends, they just release a small story chapters and some characters with ridiculous high prices. In my case my gacha game was Honkai impact 3rd, and Boy, after 3 years playing it non stop (and nothing else) i spent around 2000 bucks. had fun? Yes, would do it again? NO. It's a dumb investment, since the characters and weapons you unlock becomes irrelevant after 3 patches. It's better to buy a Xbox X/ps5 and enjoy real games.
I tried to get into Gacha games back in the day, but hated the monetisation of each and everyone I tried, then at the start of this year I tried Blue Archive. So I can say that I hate Gacha games but love Blue Archive.
18:48 I think that point doesnt justify gatcha. Nintendo games like animal crossing get free updates and support through internet. they dont preventing users progression if they dont spent more $$$$$$ in the game.
I refuse to play gachas for one reason. Once the revenue goes down a little bit, they get the axe, and good luck playing a server based game that has been shut off.
After having lived long enough to make and lose and make new and lose even more friends irl, I'm very opposed to the idea of developing bonds with people I will probably never meet. Not that I think it's a bad thing, I'm just... Very hesitant, myself. But I would love to be convinced otherwise.
I feel like MTG Arena does a good job with making the game playable without paying money. Just completing daily quests for the first few days of playing gets you a crap ton of theme decks, some of which being very strong if modified slightly. Also, wildcards can be used to craft any card of the same rarity from any set (except special event exclusives.) I was able to rack up mythic wildcards just from playing for 2 hours a week and enjoy what I did. But MTG is a whole nother type of gambling that has its share of addicts. Collecting the real cards is insanely expensive, especially ones that are good in game.
@@l_kaida I have had that recommended to me a few times. And since the devs showed actual gameplay in their ads, it looks pretty good. Sadly girls frontline just took up second gacha game slot in my day so yea. I'm mostly playing because gf2 is coming this year and I heard story is good.
I was waiting for him to mention Fire Emblem Heroes since it has enough interesting gameplay to stand its ground as a "game" and isn't grindy at all, and then I got to the feh pass segment. Not even mad because it's true
man, gotta say good video. you provide arguments from both sides which I can respect. I find it hilarious that if you say you don't like gacha mechanics, that people will automatically respond, "yeah, gacha mechanics suck but have you played [insert favorite gacha], it's not so bad." umm, no i didn't ask for a recommendation for a game I would hate and yes they are all bad still because they abuse 4 things: 1. Community peer pressure to perform (ranking, parties, leaderboards, etc...) 2. FOMO 3. gambling addiction and to a lesser extent 4. nostalgia/fanservice. IMO, no game should need to come with a warning label like it's a pack of cigarettes. I'd also note there are plenty of games out there that add content without making people gamble for it. love the content and attention to detail you put in this video.
One of the gacha games I've actually enjoyed a lot is Honkai Impact 3rd made by MiHoYo (yes that MiHoYo) You can play the story without even having to roll for characters past like the first one or two chapters (which have been heavily nerfed) Also the combat is so good that it made me quit Genshin
Total agreement. I now only play a maximum of one gacha at a time. It's been Azur Lane for over a year now and I haven't felt pressured to pay once. I still did but it's not the games fault that I need to marry every character. Yostar stayed pretty true to their free to play design in Arknight so I have high hopes for them in this sea of games that actively rob you.
Gatcha's i played Destiny child Brave nine Arknights Hero cantare Three Kingdom Smash Rwby Azur lane Girls frontline Mirage memorial Afk arena Mobilelegends/ idle Sinoalice Darkness rises Seven deadly sins grand cross Kingdomhearts x union Crossing void Skullgirls Brave Frontier Brave exvius/ dissidia Grand summoners Summoners war Raid of shadow legends Kings raid Epic seven Sword art online Fate grand order Calibra Fire emblem heroes With heroes Dokkan battle/ legends Girls x battle 2 Ond pice treasure cruise Hundred soul Exos heroes Blazblue King of fighters Never gone Dragon raja Light of chaos Idle angel Iron saga Dragon city Romancing saga Mass for the dead Epic conquest Bleach immortal soul Usion league Rune story- first gatcha game as a kid growing up Shadow of death Blade xlord Ultimate ninja blazing Naruto x boruto One punch man Dan machi Dragon blaze Final blade Tales of erin Heir of light Tokyo ghoul San goku asuka The alchemist code Slash and girl Another eden Cryptract Lord of dice Crystal borne Night chronicles Onmyoji Overhit Harbingers Valkyrie connect Last cloudia Grand chase Chaos masters Xross chronicle Valkyrie crusade Valkyrie anatomia Heores of abyss Myth wars Legendary puzzles Langrisser Ceres m Record keeper Crash fever 😖 i probably have more, might add on, ik its very unorganized
Those loot boxes and battle passes are just as shifty. They should not be excused anymore than gacha cash grab garbage. They are all designed to build addiction and siphon money away from vulnerable people. The guy who spent 100 dollars trying to get the anime PNG is being hurt just as much as the guy who spent 100 dollars opening loot boxes in Master Duel or skins in League of Legends. It's all shifty and shouldn't be accepted as ok.
Skylanders was one of the most innovative gachas ever. It's got the basics: - Gambling(stores restocking) with commons, rares, xtra rares and really xtra rare (that goddam drill-doser was nonexistent) - "wiafus" and "hosbundos" - Starter units that were always kinda shit encouraging you to get more - Restricting some units to specific s̶e̶r̶v̶e̶r̶s stores - Limited time units (pumpkin eyebrawl) - lazy reskins of units you already have (look, ninjini BUt ReD) - Gradual powercreep (they'd update every character almost every game with better skills) - New random mechanics that hardly make sense (Skylanders: frankenstein's monstrosity-force) - Crossover characters when the franchise, and genre, is starting to rot in stagnation and oversaturation - Goes under when a new story arc was about to begin BUT it also has: - Physical figures you can roleplay with - Kickstarted a new genre with the fastest halve life i've seen in anything - Every character has a lazy eye - your siblings can break them with ease - They can sunbleach sometimes - you can grill the ones you hate I think I've realized where the source of my gambling addiction came from
The only gacha game(s), or rather, games with gacha elements I've played is League of Legends and Overwatch. Otherwise, I avoid the genre like the absolute plague. The video already mentioned the common statements made on them about being cash grabs or not real games cause they're on your phone, and I share that sentiment 100% even after the video. But that's not why I think so negatively of them (well, the money part kind of). The reason why I hate them so much is because you have to invest your money or time to get a CHANCE at whatever you want. If it was you could grind for hours on end, or spend $10 to buy the specific OP waifu you want, then I would have so much less issue with it, since it's not making you gamble your time and or money for potentially no payout. But yeah, that's the main reason why I avoid those games and those gameplay elements.
Good lord gacha games are definitely not for me. It's exactly many of the practices mentioned in this video that are mentioned in the video that I despise in video games nowadays.
The point of "all the latent capitalist bullshit in gacha games does not make them invalid, many bigger games do the same capitalist bullshit" moreso makes me think that the gaming industry is completely lost in corporative hell rather than that we shouldn't denounce gacha games for being the financial equivalent of a brain parasite just because bigger console/pc games are doing the same thing And to think this is all because people found out they could churn out so much money from artists
For me, I’ve always been a fan of the “fate” series. So when I heard of fate GO, I was hooked. Fate in my opinion has a pretty good FTP option and then if you pay money, you can sometimes get 5 stars. With certain times in the year it’s guaranteed. With there also being a Japanese server that is 2 years ahead I always know that the game will have a long life and that I know what to look forward to. (Just so you have context I’ve been playing fate since the second month of the global release)
I love the Fate universe and Fate GO was one of my go to games when it released on Global, but I quit after realizing the endless cycle of "Grind for 7 days straight to finish the event" then casually grind dailies until another even releases, was really bad for my mental health. (Also I realized I'm not a fan of time gated game changing content. I play Grand Chase: Dimensional Chaser now, both because I like its gameplay model more (events only give cosmetics and materials, and you're able to get everything in the game given putting in a little time every day or so) and because I played the original grand chase
F/GO has so little impact on the Fate universe it's genuinely hilarious, If you're into fate universe, go read Fate/Strange Fake or El melloi for more worldbuilding, or be one of the three people that actually watched Kara No Kyoukai. Mind you all of these have Fate/Zero vibes, so no fanservice or waifubait
The thing i like about FGO is that the free units from the fp gacha are not just some trash units but can actually be really useful, unlike some gacha games like Dokkan where anything that's not an ssr is just totally useless. Hell even a huge portion of the ssr cards are just straight up trash.
Also it doesn't really matter to me that it has little impact on the Fate universe, i actually really enjoyed the story chapters, even some events like the one going on right now have pretty decent stories and characters. As a VN FGO is pretty solid i'd say
I actually deleted 4 gacha this past week due to that feeling of “what the hell am I doing with my free time and money?!” Now I have my three core ones, which I’m F2P in 2 of. I can definitely relate to a lot of this video. Very well made, excellent work!
Luke T I kept Dokkan Battle, Grand Summoners and Epic 7. E7 is my casual game, GS is not too heavy content-wise which I like so I only play for 10-15 min most days. Dokkan Battle I’ve been playing for almost 5 years soooo kind of hard to stop that one lol.
v Gold thanks, you too! I ended up using 600 ds, went hard on vegito’s banner. Ended up rainbowing multiple units from it, no new vegito LR though. Oh well, saving coins for him or when STR Cooler returns. How did the banners treat you?
In the past seven years ive spent well over twelve thousand dollars on dbz dokkan battle and only recently realized that i have a serious gambling issue. Ive been able to partly justify it because of my intense passion for dragon ball and the satisfaction of building my character box but the inevitability that one day the servers will be shut down and all that will be lost has become my main source of existential anxiety and it is absolutley terrifying
Quick question, which gacha game is worth playing for its quality and gameplay? I noticed you didn't really talk about skullgirls and I think that's a pretty good example of an acceptable gacha game
As a gacha player myself I have to say that I love how well you know when to do be serious and when to joke around, I 100% have enjoyed each gacha related vid you have released. Love the work behind them
God, I remember forcing myself to grind feathers and horde orbs in FEH because I kept telling myself "Next month they'll add a character I like", "The _next_ banner will have an alt of a character I care about", _"Next month,_ FEH pass will sell a png of a character I actually want...!" I lied to myself like that for 4 years, and this year, I finally overcame the sunk cost fallacy and uninstalled the game, and it's like a weight was lifted off my shoulders. I still appreciate FEH for bringing new fans into the franchise, and providing art and voiced lines for decades-old, forgotten characters, but it honestly seems to be getting less enjoyable the longer it exists (unless you're someone who only plays because you like tapping on the anime waifus. Those people are probably still having fun).
This shit is like gambling bro, go to a gameroom and the folks in there dump money into a video slot machine and they be just like this, thats addiction for you
Love the vid man! Glad to know I wasn't the only one caught by Kingdom Hearts Unchained clutches. Dropped so much money on that game while in highschool and I also did the same and applied to be in a guild in the vulpes union called Yujo No Kokoro. We actually made it to the top of the global lux leaderboard too. But the game just wasn't fun anymore. A medal that would carry me would be completely overshadowed the next week and that made keeps my up in my party hard too. I had to cut the game and my party off cold turkey too keep myself from coming back. Play Gatcha games responsibly kids. Oh also Dragalia Lost for the win baby!
I really wish Dragalia Lost got the love it deserves. The devs are making it as accessible as possible to F2P and Newbies to learn the game and rewards Veterans or Endgame players to help the newbies by rewarding them. And I agree, 2-Part banners can suck a fat one but the devs need to make money somehow (but the collab characters are always below meta after a month or two. They're just there for collection. Being off-meta is completely viable with a coordinated team anyway). Also I want Yakko on my goddanm friend list: ID: 2276 6521 391. Anyone can add me, I hope Ellysane helps you.
@@lunasperidot8760 Peony is only a buff wh*re bc people use it for that purpose, she isn't a must-have. Chrom is a simple delete-button for fire but still, not a must-have. Tiki is fine, she's only used for her dragon form and tanking stuff, she isnt game breaking or op compared to others. None of the collab characters are a must in current content. You can use whoever u want on any type of content with a coordinated team.
Genshin is the first and only gacha I play and it's nice because it doesn't give much incentive to pay and it actually encourages you to play very little. It gives you a big empty world full of goblins and slimes to kill so there's no reason to pay or care to maximize your characters because there's nothing to do with them.
I played union cross when it first came out and was part of a group called Kaiju. It was probably the best time I've played a mobile game. It was competitive and our team ranked first or at least top 10 consistently and even came up with a raid boss method where even lower level members could lux farm. We even had a person from an opposing team join ours to "infiltrate" and shared our method and optimized it and overtook us. It was the best experience and no other game has come close to that for me. I eventually quit because of the micro transactions and it was getting too much and eventually the original people on my team all left so it wasn't the same and P2W got so unbalanced. I miss it...
These kinds of videos make me miss Gotcha Force. The genre of "Gacha" can be completely single player and void of microtransactions and still be an awesome genre. Mobile games ruined the concept of playable character collectathons.
4:37 *laughs in Arknights events* I did. I got something from the experience. Tanky enemies that hit range units are the ultimate evil and should be exterminated with all might. Forget the 3 star result, I want the fuckers down. Downing my whole squad to the point where every unit was on cooldown. Some of these ones were E2! How did you knock THEM out?! ...maybe I should've just used more than 2 casters. And...you know...learn to strategize. Still love the events.
My experience level with gacha games comes from only one, very simple looking game known as FitnessRPG, you literally make progress by walking, that's all it was, but it also had all those microtransactions you'd expect from gacha games (except not as outrageous). to be honest, I thought it was kinda fun, despite forcing myself to break my legs to get them sweet sweet level ups for my characters by reaching 10k (mostly) or 20k steps (because of guild reasons) only to have my ass kicked in the PvP section because I'm still a little far behind, after about 6 months straight of walking every single fucking day, I just stopped, I don't walk anymore, I'm bored of it lmao. However, I didn't make any friends along the way like Yakko did here, there was no chat system, so it was the loneliest grind you could ever attempt. 10/10 I hate my legs for working correctly.
I'm here from the Dragalia Lost subReddit. I love DL. I love hearing people speak fondly about it. I've been fortunate enough to only spend (a truly irresponsible amount of) time on it. I actually quit Marvel Contest of Champions over a year ago because I was playing it so much that it was negatively impacting my job and marriage. Now my wife and I play Dragalia together and we're mostly reasonable about it. I liked this vid. New sub acquired! (Sorry, I'm just a 3 star. I'm not even meta. You should probably roll again. )
I've playing gacha games at almost 6 years and what I have to say is: be a free to play for at least 6 months, a good gacha game can keep you playing whitout spending money, you dont have to "need" spending money, you spend money because you want do something for yourself and have -more- fun with it So just have fun, on your own way
Congratulations Yakko, you have officially made your transition from “popular by tangential relation” to “Gacha Boy”. Your reward is a horde of ravenous fans that will always ask you to review their favorite gacha game and the crushing sensation that you will never be able to recapture the good ole days. Nice!
-Now do raid- hahahahaha
Oof
Gacha boy sounds kinda cool~
so, yakko... When is the honkai impact 3rd vid coming? xD jk... unless?
I legitimately thought that they were called "gotcha" games because they tricked you into spending real life money.
I think gacha it's just that in japanese, but it's meant to be you saying that after getting what you want in the gacha.
@@xrosslegends1279 its more-so the sound (gasha) you get from vending machine-dispensed capsule toys and because of the same nature these games have with said machines gacha games were born as a term
@@denebu Oh yeah, that makes sense, I new about the relation about the two, but didn't think about the sound as the name.
Gotcha bitch, now you are in crippling debt
that's def how i remember the term. and after i explained the concept to my candy crush-obsessed mom, i think that's what she thinks it's called too.
Fifa is just a gatcha game that resets yearly
Well yes but actually, yes
*Y E S*
That has one of the most profiting gacha in itself also with Ultimate Team
My must you remind me of the copy paste game
EA:"That's not true, it's a suprise server malfunction... give me money plz"
addiction bad
my addiction is league content tho
I stopped playing league cuz i don't wanna get too addicted
They hated @Dumbs because he told them the truth
Wtf why are you here?
Wow uhh hi dumbs I like ur stuff
re: that bit at 5:29 about gachas being sustained by a few players who pay thousands - that checks out for sure. one of my college professors used to develop games for a few different studios in japan, and he worked on a now-defunct gacha game at one point. there was one, single player the devs all *knew by name* because he was spending so much money that he was the main person funding their game and paying their paychecks. he'd call support and they'd legitimately be like, oh shit, it's him, get him a direct line to the devs, because they wanted him specifically to be as happy with the game as possible.
you could make a religion out of this
that's a bit sad to read; do you know how it finished ?
No joke i think that guy might even get a kick out of being the sole sponsor of that game.
@@MikeTheEntei no don't
By any chance, do you remember the name of the game your college professor helped develop?
my favorite gacha game is Animal Crossing: New Horizons
LMAOO
my favorite gacha game is Fortnite: Battle Royale
Facts
Nintendo could've easily made Nook Mile tickets cost money and it'd essentially be a villager lootbox
@@AustinFire you mean pocket camp?
Wait... Did they really decided to not only wipe every user's progress on a JoJo gacha but also changed it's core gameplay from real time to turn based?????
And no money refunded????
Yeah no wonder it died lmao.
Yakko's talking about his addictions again.
who would've ever saw this coming
These videos are a cry for help. Someone get him a therapist.
Nice
My favorite gacha-game is league of legends - in that game, you always get 4 random-characters to help you in your team, and if the enemy got better characters, you are kinda fucked.
Love that game.
Or you could.. Try to work with them? Sometimes I think people don't realize it's a team fighting game. Most of those people exclusively play marksman or fighters.
@@CosmicCreatorCat its a joke.
o i thought that was the game where u go in a 5v5 pvp battle with 4 retard ai bots on your team vs 5 real players that fuck u up every duel
@@BloodsailAdmiralTdk no i think its more of a 1v1 with you having beginner-bots and your opp having intermediate ones. all your lanes lose and you get to fight that one guy on the enemy team thats always slightly more fed than you
@@EinManU i suppose that sounds more like what i remember from hearing about that game
Project QT was ok
A fellow man of culture i presume
What is project qt
The best even
ah, so i'm not alone after all
@@hijacked6663 its a... mature Japanese culture game with interesting puzzles
As a gacha game player for almost 6 years and a hardcore arknights f2p player you have alot of points in this and honestly i respect it.
arknights players unite!
Arknights is so f2p friendly it broke my tendency to whale. It's the only gacha game I can play anymore because of this 'cuz I'm too tempted to spend on others.
@@Jovian12 well be prepared, blaze is coming soon and its hard to not whale for her (for me anyways)
One thing I really like about arknights and I sadly don't find in any other gacha game, is that you just could play and mess up with the game and there is so much more to do than just clear a level with the most optimal team, I feel like in most gacha RPG (like epic seven, the other one I play) there not much uniqueness into each unit (at least in term of possibility) and even while there can be some great/cool unit combo, in the end, all you can do is clear the content the way it is intended to.
Meanwhile, in AK you can bring up meme strat, cheese some level, clear hard stage with some the weakest character in the game and mess up with the fucking game physics, and it feels so refreshing, I really wish more mobile game will allow us to do these kinds of thing in the future.
@@kevinseraphin5456 you can even clear stages with only mayer and magallan
See Pokemon Master uninstalled
Yep that's relatable
S0leil yeah Pokémon masters rrly sucks
@@Ash.DragaliaLost ye the gameplay is boring a nd too much grind
They should've focus onto Pokemon Duel . Didn't even finish the damn story.
@@azirul9311 Pokemon duel was lit tho, idk why they shut it down
@@s0leil883 I know right?My Greninja could've swept the long ass tower but of course they didn't wanna try it. The story was also somewhat interesting too (more interesting that Sword and Shield atleast lol) and they couldn't even managed that.
Everytime I see a new vid with Yakko talking about Gacha I get so excited OuO
Hi, Papatec!
the man the myth the legend
Arcknights gang
Even papa tect came
the gacha playerbase has been summoned
Okay hear me out here.
Instead of being on average predatory af with monetisation, not even pay for heavy advantage rather to win, being a gambling system hidden behind game play etc.
Why don't you...idk NOT bake the horrible practice into the game from the start, sure you want that character? Let you outright buy it, membership sure to an extent. Even daily login bonuses, and random loot sure.
But don't defend the entire system because it has a cute waifu, and hey I am someone that loves video games, manga, anime etc.
Also I have no bloody idea why I was even suggested this video as I avoid games like this due to being broke af irl and being vulnerable to those mechanics.
gacha is the DEATH of gaming. because they are just e-casinos with moving pngs and gifs.
there is a game... it's called LIMBUS company
This hits a special spot after Genshin Impact release
Sadly still in a bad spot. There are people that just pull for the sake of grudge to 1 ko everything than actual take your time which js the game main focus (sadly the progression is too slow) and then proceed to complain said it's too easy which is no shit you spend thousands bucks without realize it lol you got brunout and still complain with full regret.
Fuck that game
@@XmortoxX1990 it was a corprate desicion!
Just hit mihoyo with saying Taiwan or HK. 999999 damage?
@@chenchen6150 It's a core reason why whales are a detriment in the long run. Whales who got all the opest units complain they have nothing to do so the next update introduces some new gimmick that is unbeatable unless you get some brand new units designed specifically to tackle this new gimmick and by COMPLETE COINCIDENCE are on a banner right now, so they get those, which by collateral makes the previous endgame stuff piss easy so they complain the game is too easy so the devs introduce some new gimmick and so on. Meanwhile 99% of the playerbase gets blocked from all the new content and events because they dared to not spend the GNP of a small country like those other players.
You know what I like about Gacha games? The hentai.
FGO, Azur Lane and Girls Frontline have inspired enough doujinshi and art to last for a lifetime.
Preach brother
A man of culture i see
i'm all about that Arknights stuff tbh
tbh I think Girls' Frontline could do with a bit more hentai XD
@@nepgeardam6807 and azur land could do with mote translations
Honestly the way that FGO make you spend money is so big brain. At first glance, the way they make money just seems down right silly, as they don’t have any booster pack or something to incentivize spending money on the game.They don’t really make the player deal with AP problem unless you’re super invested in the or game or you just want to flex as the developers constantly bombards the player with GA. Not only that, the cost for the packs for SQ is just down right ridiculous at first glance. I mean $100 for like about 62 total worth of summons. The only real way they fact that they constantly release limited servant banner.
By itself, it wouldn’t be that bad, but combine the banner with the story that they write for those limited banner servant is what really makes you spend money on the game.
The problem I have most gacha game is that the character that they release for each banner is just boring. Sure they have their dialogues and their maybe skins, but other than that, they rarely have any anything to help them be flesh out as a character. This thus result in them being quite rarely pulled, at least for me, as I just don’t see the worth in them. That’s why, whenever I play the game, I only summon for characters that are either OP or a character that have made appearance in the game’s story.
And that’s why FGO is just so ingenious. Almost every servant that is in the limited banner have an event or some sort of story for the character, and with these stories, story writers makes you understand who the characters are and how they are like. The story right make us understand their personality and make us understand just how cool these character. They make the character feel real, as degenerate as that sounds, and that what makes people, at least for me, want to pull for them.
Take James Moriarty for example. In FGO, he’s a pretty boring character at first glance, a suspicious looking old man with a gun coffin that he can ride... okay maybe boring isn’t really a great way to describe him, but his kit isn’t really that strong or cool. So he was released along with chapter 1 of EoR, where James was the focus of the that chapter. At first, I wasn’t planning to pull for him, since he really wasn’t that strong, I already had like 3 other units that does his role but better, and I was saving for Ereshkigal, who is best girl. However, after finishing the chapter, I begin pulling for him, simply because he became such a likable character.
It’s honestly scary how the developers drive people to spend money on that game, they don’t constantly force ads at your face or constantly force you to look at their “Special Offer”, which they don’t have (unless you count the Guaranteed SSR banner). The way they make you spend money on the is by making you do it on your volition. It can be best described with this meme:
When you accidentally spent all your SQ for “bait” banner
*SQ pack* : You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me.
This has to be one of the most depth comment that i see, which i agree on.
Every character has its own story..
OG Saber Artoria, still has not been inserted into any story LMAO.
(Played FGO JP since release btw)
@@Kaimax61 the Fact that Mordred have more appearance than her Father LoL (even though Artoria sometime appear in Event but only slightly)
That's why we call it Fate/grind order
Victor Yang That's the kind of way I like my gacha games to be. FGO shows care with their characters. If they can make you fall in love with a fictional character for a mobile game, that's saying something. They could've went the powercreep direction, and force players to spend, but no, they make sure all their characters come with a well laid out story.
5:38
Yakko: "Tens of thousands of dollars"
*immediately shows FGO*
Me: Is this like a personal attack or something?
Rest In Peace Dragalia Lost, you will be very much missed as an outstanding outlier in the gacha game market.
As a free to play player, i feel like gachas are basically testing your luck, cause if you get shit characters it can be so boring but if you get good ones you feel like you can keep going on forever
Hello tri tip chris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was looking for you now I am accomplishment
“Part 2: Mobile Game Sponsors” *Arknights ad plays*
oh no, not the arknights ads.
Lucky you, I got an ad for Raid: Shadow Legends, Hero Wars, and that Seven Deadly Sins gacha back to back without the ability to skip, AND I HAD ADBLOCK ON!
How they manage to make such terrible ads for such a fun game is beyond me.
ChromaLuke Adams Gacha is good tho. Completely f2p and I’m top 10%
I legit love the song Speed of Light from that ad, it at the very least is way more palatable then Raid. Honestly almost all mobile games I get into are because I love the OST that I had listen to.....though even I have my gatcha achilles heel......(looks side-ways at Love Live)
“Fascinated.ADDICTED.”well you saw you saw that shigechi and followed him to the rabbit hole .
"You're telling me gacha games are just anime waifu cash and grabs?"
Me: Yes, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
I always thought the difference was that the features you mentioned for PC games were always considered problematic whereas in the gatcha community they're just normalised to uncomfortable degrees.
i love fire emblem heroes but jesus christ feh pass is the worst thing i’ve seen in a while
Same, unless they come out with some crazy Resplendent hero that I absolutely love, I will continue to be a F2P player.
My dumbass has been fucking paying for it since the beginning. I NEED THE PNGS
@@ExMagz you don't.
@@Zorooooooooooooooooooooooooooo you don't understand quite how retarded I sm
as someone who's been playing gacha games for almost 7 or 8 years(i forgot jesus christ)
summoning is probably the only fun part of the game when you go to the game first time, and you end up getting addicted to the gameplay just to get gems/summoning currencies just to get your wives/husbands
been playing dragalia lost since it came out, and it's the only one that I've genuinely enjoyed after a long period of time. I took so many screenshots of the april fools dog
ngl, I totally relate when you said that it's difficult to get into a gacha unless you're in from day one. The only 2 gacha games I ever spent money on, fire emblem heroes and yugioh duel links (duel links is pretty much a gacha at this point) I've only been able to not get lost in thanks to starting from day 1 or having background info in them. All the other games I try are always feel like I missed 2 months to several years worth of content and free premium currency that I can't keep up with everything
Ya know what sucks? Being a game designer looking for jobs and seeing a lot of available jobs are from mobile game developers looking for designers that are skilled in predatory monetizing design. Then strongly considering it, swallowing your pride and virtues because you need a job. While I have considered it, thankfully I haven't gone that route in my career. I feel sorry for any designers that have.
I love hearing people talk about Dragalia Lost. I really enjoy that game.
A fellow dragalia brother I see
i played on the 1st day, quit, want to go back but lost the account lol
tfw i spent everything for tiki and cant bring myself to return after not getting her
@@HelterwithoutSkelter she ain't even all that, tho I do understand your pain
@@Stocking.mp3 i spent 50k wyrmites and didnt get her... but yknow i got 3 Zephyrs so thats something
Yeah yeah good video but...
*Where's the source for the thumbnail gal?*
Destiny Child, the true degenerate's gacha game
her name is Mona btw
@@yakkocmn a true man of culture
The uncensored version of that game tho
6:00
Did.. _did you learn 3D animation just for that one gag..!?_
Another soul claimed by the "I learnt 3d modeling for one meme" club 😔
How and where can I learn this, for a meme ofc
@@mr.miscellaneous1079 like any good meme tutorials, blender is a fully-fledged free 3d animation software, and a lot of people have been trying it out recently! I'd watch a beginners tutorial if you're really interested, but I imagined yakko downloaded the character model from online, rigged a puppet of it, and then animated it.
I remember when magica record first released the English servers and I was super excited, having found the news right after watching anime it was based off of. I preordered it and played it everyday, until it it died unfortunately.. all I remember is feeling so badass with my 5*rena minami, and playing while I was supposed to be paying attention to class. the only thing that it actually gave me was that I realized I needed Joan d'ark as a magical girl, other than that.. I'm glad I was a poor child cause I would have definitely blew all my money for my waifus
And I'm still mad about it
Not long after the whole fanfare as well with the first original magical girl debut for english server, the anime adaptation, and the next arc teaser
I'm still bitter about it
Recently I checked the storage of my phone and I had 50GB of just apps, mostly gacha games. A lot of gacha games I install but never play, this video most definitely inspired me to truly consider what games are worth keeping and what games aren't worth the time that I could use to be doing something else.
I was half expecting this tp be to the most incredibly in depth paid ad for Arknights
Well it's pretty much the only good gacha game so it would make sense
mEEEEE1934 cough, FGO, Dragalia Lost, cough
@@mEEEEE1934 what about Crusaders Quest?
I just quit as soon as i find daily logins and missions become a chore
To find myself browse the appstore looking for another gacha game to sink 10 hours a day into
Afk arena is fun to f2p. The dailies take 2 minutes to complete
Arknights is great, all you literally need to do is play the game, the dailies just complete themselves. It's also incredibly fun, I've been playing for a few days and it hasn't gotten boring, unlike other games I've tried.
Thanks for the recommendations, been an arknights player since day one and rly enjoying it. I tried out afk arena as well and its really fun, tho maybe bc its an old server i cant quite keep up with pvp, everyone is 1M power and above 😅
@@georgenguyen9732 im late but battle cats
waiting for Japan 2: Electric Boogaloo
Microtransactions do in fact make them bad games, they are intentionally made worse so you pay to make it better. There is no such thing as a good faith microtransaction, they were created specifically to siphon money from the vulnerable.
Great video and GREAT editing.
Gacha games are, in a nutshell, a chase that never ends (sorta). We have polled over 1,000 people asking why they play gacha games and it all came down to the fact that they love the chance of getting something rare. Remember those mystery box subscriptions a year or two ago, when they were popular? It was all the craze and all the youtubers were opening them. And people were buying them because they wanted to get surprised, since a lot of us lead mundane lives (which is absolutely fine) and so we just sometimes need that rush of dopamine to feel more alive. And in the end, you do end up with a nice .jpeg of your favorite waifu :)
I have only played for a long period of time two gachas, destiny child and fgo.
Destiny child i stoped playing bc i got tired of autoing quests while looking at bouncing anime tiddies, but i still play fgo every day, sure i know that the chances on fgo are some of the lowest on the gacha market but i still think it's one of the best ones out there bc
1. it actualy tries to be a game unlike many other gacha with story characthers and things you care about and not just some excuse for me to pay money
2. sure SSR characthers will most of the time be more efficient but almost all of the characthers in the game can be used for any type of activity no matter their rarity you just have to invest enough time and resources into them and finaly
3. the only thing you can buy is the currency wich you use to pefform pulls, not resources and you can directly buy a single characther, does this make it a pain getting your favourite servant, but it makes so the game never is direcly pay to win or pay to play.
out of all of the gachas i've played fgo gave me the best experience and it's still a pretty fun game, i may be a little inclined to like it bc i like the fate franchise but at least this game is way more forgiving than any other gachas
Hell the best two farming heroes are both 1*. In other gachas 1* are at best exp fodder.
Also, fgo doesnt have PVP, so that make it one of the best gacha games in the market
Just one "mistake" is you can buy a servant but for that you had to be a massive whale. The Unregistered Spirit Origin "Summoning the same 5★ Servant for the 6th time and beyond"
Which is super rare.
Everything else I agree. Specially like saint quatz only give you the SSR, but if you want to level it up and his skills you will need to farm. And farm a lot. No money will make the SSRs level up
I have been playing FGO for two years now, I have put some money and I won't say I made any friends to be worthy but I really enjoy the non PVP part of the game, the story/novel, and also the type of game where you play on your on and don't need to depend on anybody.
It's fun, but yeah their gacha is the most ungrateful. I thought other games like Honkai Impact had better gatcha system but their game didn't hook me in.
orion is straight up downgrade compared to euryale and you have the advantage of being able to make low rarity servants more useful by grailing them.
@Yoba Yoba after the 5* ticket Waver kinda is😄
"I spent all day rerolling for games I wouldn't play just for the satisfaction--the rush"
Lmao you just have a straight up gambling addiction
I’ve been playing F/GO and DFFOO for years, hell since they dropped in JP, and the amount of time and strategy into those games that I have so much fun to this day lol so I hate when gachas get a bad rep for being bad :p
tl dr, gacha games sucks, friends are the only thing that made people keep playing these games.
if you're playing gacha games and feel like your wasting time, well it's because you are wasting your time.
and when you feel fomo. ask yourself, "what am i missing out?", your missing out on nothing
pls if you're addicted to gacha games and you paid on those games. pls quit the faster you quit the better your life will be.
ask yourself "what benefit will i get if i quit these gacha games?"
for me as an example: more time, no preassure from limited predatory events/banner, and so much more that you can't think as of yet.
addiction is addiction, pls love yourself and quit these predatory games.
Cry
Yakko : "I fear for my sanity"
Me as an Arknights player that literally use sanity as energy.
"First time?":v
Yeah I thought of the same thing.
I clicked this video while event farming in FGO
Sadly same, and there's two good events in both servers!
Same.
At least managed to get Chokita
Ryouma or Hokusai?
Same. :))) My Summer Musashi says Hi!
...same, i feel like this is a problem
i think arknights is an example of a gacha game done extremelly well. i started playing the game roughly a month after release, and i have yet to spend any money on it, but i've still cleared just about everything in the game and i have some of the best characters. they give you a lot of the premium currency for free during events (which i usually spend on skins), and give you several guaranteed 5 stars as well as a guaranteed 6 star at the start (6 stars are the highest). also, it is possible to clear the whole game's story using no 6 stars and only the 5 stars you are guaranteed to get. (such as Amiya)
Eh, it's always like that during the beginning stages of a Gacha. They'll have to up the powercreep sooner or later. It's the sad truth.
If u wanna play a very f2p friendly gacha game try fgo
everyone just youtubes the solutions anyway :V
@@vivi4362true, but arknights is all PvE and all content so far is clearable with low rarity characters
Yeah, the ads for it are terrible, but it's really obvious how much the developers care about their game.
When you mentioned aggressive advertising it reminded me of AFK arena. I downloaded AFK arena when it launched on mobile and was enjoying it for a while. But every time I saw an ad that was a blatant lie about the gameplay, I started to get irritated at the game itself. I played for a while, but I got so fed up with the ads I uninstalled after about a month of playing.
The Feh Pass or what some players call it the "Eh, pass."
Leaving gacha games is quite challenging. I used to play hearthstone myself. And I wasted a lot of money on preorders (probably 120$ at least). Once I realised that nothing ever really changed, especially how blizzard treats their game, I left the game. It's been almost 1,5 years since, and I'm very happy with my decision
Maybe it's a me thing but I find it very hard to quit these kinds of games (mobile and gacha) due to habits I develop involving them. Like, what are you gonna do when you're on a bus to work/school/wherever? - you have a farming session in your fav game. When you've been doing that for long enough it's pretty hard to just stop doing it, it becomes an addiction like smoking, it takes effort to stop doing it. It took me months to actually stop playing games I didn't want to play anymore and I wasn't even doing anything productive in them.
You’re better off playing PSVita or 3DS games.
As a free to play gacha gamer, the time sink can reach levels unheard of.
The problem with gacha games is how stressful and boring it becomes with time, it's not like you can sit on your couch the weekend and end a game, like prey or mirror's edge, gacha games NEVER ends, they just release a small story chapters and some characters with ridiculous high prices. In my case my gacha game was Honkai impact 3rd, and Boy, after 3 years playing it non stop (and nothing else) i spent around 2000 bucks. had fun? Yes, would do it again? NO. It's a dumb investment, since the characters and weapons you unlock becomes irrelevant after 3 patches. It's better to buy a Xbox X/ps5 and enjoy real games.
Thanks Genshin Impact for putting this in my recommended
I tried to get into Gacha games back in the day, but hated the monetisation of each and everyone I tried, then at the start of this year I tried Blue Archive.
So I can say that I hate Gacha games but love Blue Archive.
18:48 I think that point doesnt justify gatcha. Nintendo games like animal crossing get free updates and support through internet. they dont preventing users progression if they dont spent more $$$$$$ in the game.
I refuse to play gachas for one reason. Once the revenue goes down a little bit, they get the axe, and good luck playing a server based game that has been shut off.
After having lived long enough to make and lose and make new and lose even more friends irl, I'm very opposed to the idea of developing bonds with people I will probably never meet. Not that I think it's a bad thing, I'm just... Very hesitant, myself. But I would love to be convinced otherwise.
What are you talking about King?
Just because pc games have their own version of gacha (lootboxes) doesn't mean it's okay. It's literally gambling, regardless of the platform.
I feel like MTG Arena does a good job with making the game playable without paying money. Just completing daily quests for the first few days of playing gets you a crap ton of theme decks, some of which being very strong if modified slightly. Also, wildcards can be used to craft any card of the same rarity from any set (except special event exclusives.) I was able to rack up mythic wildcards just from playing for 2 hours a week and enjoy what I did. But MTG is a whole nother type of gambling that has its share of addicts. Collecting the real cards is insanely expensive, especially ones that are good in game.
Arknight and Girls Frontline are few of the rare games where I enjoyed the story line and strategies behind the gacha features.
I learned from Mario kart tour surprisingly not cookie run
Try magicami
Girls frontline I enjoyed more than arknights tbh.
Try guardian tales, the game is actually amazing but sad no one in the west really knows about it
@@l_kaida I have had that recommended to me a few times. And since the devs showed actual gameplay in their ads, it looks pretty good. Sadly girls frontline just took up second gacha game slot in my day so yea.
I'm mostly playing because gf2 is coming this year and I heard story is good.
I was waiting for him to mention Fire Emblem Heroes since it has enough interesting gameplay to stand its ground as a "game" and isn't grindy at all, and then I got to the feh pass segment.
Not even mad because it's true
Nearly choked on my laugh when you said "Taking the world by storm deez nuts!" haha
man, gotta say good video. you provide arguments from both sides which I can respect. I find it hilarious that if you say you don't like gacha mechanics, that people will automatically respond, "yeah, gacha mechanics suck but have you played [insert favorite gacha], it's not so bad." umm, no i didn't ask for a recommendation for a game I would hate and yes they are all bad still because they abuse 4 things: 1. Community peer pressure to perform (ranking, parties, leaderboards, etc...) 2. FOMO 3. gambling addiction and to a lesser extent 4. nostalgia/fanservice. IMO, no game should need to come with a warning label like it's a pack of cigarettes. I'd also note there are plenty of games out there that add content without making people gamble for it.
love the content and attention to detail you put in this video.
One of the gacha games I've actually enjoyed a lot is Honkai Impact 3rd made by MiHoYo (yes that MiHoYo)
You can play the story without even having to roll for characters past like the first one or two chapters (which have been heavily nerfed)
Also the combat is so good that it made me quit Genshin
Honkai impact was fun. But I do want to bypass the Gatcha stuff
Just play Battle Cats nothing else is worth it
Total agreement. I now only play a maximum of one gacha at a time. It's been Azur Lane for over a year now and I haven't felt pressured to pay once. I still did but it's not the games fault that I need to marry every character. Yostar stayed pretty true to their free to play design in Arknight so I have high hopes for them in this sea of games that actively rob you.
Gatcha's i played
Destiny child
Brave nine
Arknights
Hero cantare
Three Kingdom Smash
Rwby
Azur lane
Girls frontline
Mirage memorial
Afk arena
Mobilelegends/ idle
Sinoalice
Darkness rises
Seven deadly sins grand cross
Kingdomhearts x union
Crossing void
Skullgirls
Brave Frontier
Brave exvius/ dissidia
Grand summoners
Summoners war
Raid of shadow legends
Kings raid
Epic seven
Sword art online
Fate grand order
Calibra
Fire emblem heroes
With heroes
Dokkan battle/ legends
Girls x battle 2
Ond pice treasure cruise
Hundred soul
Exos heroes
Blazblue
King of fighters
Never gone
Dragon raja
Light of chaos
Idle angel
Iron saga
Dragon city
Romancing saga
Mass for the dead
Epic conquest
Bleach immortal soul
Usion league
Rune story- first gatcha game as a kid growing up
Shadow of death
Blade xlord
Ultimate ninja blazing
Naruto x boruto
One punch man
Dan machi
Dragon blaze
Final blade
Tales of erin
Heir of light
Tokyo ghoul
San goku asuka
The alchemist code
Slash and girl
Another eden
Cryptract
Lord of dice
Crystal borne
Night chronicles
Onmyoji
Overhit
Harbingers
Valkyrie connect
Last cloudia
Grand chase
Chaos masters
Xross chronicle
Valkyrie crusade
Valkyrie anatomia
Heores of abyss
Myth wars
Legendary puzzles
Langrisser
Ceres m
Record keeper
Crash fever
😖 i probably have more, might add on, ik its very unorganized
Those loot boxes and battle passes are just as shifty. They should not be excused anymore than gacha cash grab garbage. They are all designed to build addiction and siphon money away from vulnerable people. The guy who spent 100 dollars trying to get the anime PNG is being hurt just as much as the guy who spent 100 dollars opening loot boxes in Master Duel or skins in League of Legends. It's all shifty and shouldn't be accepted as ok.
"Welcome to part 2, mobile game sponsors-" _gets interrupted by mobile game ad_
*YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!*
Skylanders was one of the most innovative gachas ever. It's got the basics:
- Gambling(stores restocking) with commons, rares, xtra rares and really xtra rare (that goddam drill-doser was nonexistent)
- "wiafus" and "hosbundos"
- Starter units that were always kinda shit encouraging you to get more
- Restricting some units to specific s̶e̶r̶v̶e̶r̶s stores
- Limited time units (pumpkin eyebrawl)
- lazy reskins of units you already have (look, ninjini BUt ReD)
- Gradual powercreep (they'd update every character almost every game with better skills)
- New random mechanics that hardly make sense (Skylanders: frankenstein's monstrosity-force)
- Crossover characters when the franchise, and genre, is starting to rot in stagnation and oversaturation
- Goes under when a new story arc was about to begin
BUT it also has:
- Physical figures you can roleplay with
- Kickstarted a new genre with the fastest halve life i've seen in anything
- Every character has a lazy eye
- your siblings can break them with ease
- They can sunbleach sometimes
- you can grill the ones you hate
I think I've realized where the source of my gambling addiction came from
The only gacha game(s), or rather, games with gacha elements I've played is League of Legends and Overwatch. Otherwise, I avoid the genre like the absolute plague. The video already mentioned the common statements made on them about being cash grabs or not real games cause they're on your phone, and I share that sentiment 100% even after the video. But that's not why I think so negatively of them (well, the money part kind of). The reason why I hate them so much is because you have to invest your money or time to get a CHANCE at whatever you want. If it was you could grind for hours on end, or spend $10 to buy the specific OP waifu you want, then I would have so much less issue with it, since it's not making you gamble your time and or money for potentially no payout. But yeah, that's the main reason why I avoid those games and those gameplay elements.
Good lord gacha games are definitely not for me. It's exactly many of the practices mentioned in this video that are mentioned in the video that I despise in video games nowadays.
The point of "all the latent capitalist bullshit in gacha games does not make them invalid, many bigger games do the same capitalist bullshit" moreso makes me think that the gaming industry is completely lost in corporative hell rather than that we shouldn't denounce gacha games for being the financial equivalent of a brain parasite just because bigger console/pc games are doing the same thing
And to think this is all because people found out they could churn out so much money from artists
For me, I’ve always been a fan of the “fate” series. So when I heard of fate GO, I was hooked. Fate in my opinion has a pretty good FTP option and then if you pay money, you can sometimes get 5 stars. With certain times in the year it’s guaranteed. With there also being a Japanese server that is 2 years ahead I always know that the game will have a long life and that I know what to look forward to.
(Just so you have context I’ve been playing fate since the second month of the global release)
I love the Fate universe and Fate GO was one of my go to games when it released on Global, but I quit after realizing the endless cycle of "Grind for 7 days straight to finish the event" then casually grind dailies until another even releases, was really bad for my mental health. (Also I realized I'm not a fan of time gated game changing content.
I play Grand Chase: Dimensional Chaser now, both because I like its gameplay model more (events only give cosmetics and materials, and you're able to get everything in the game given putting in a little time every day or so) and because I played the original grand chase
F/GO has so little impact on the Fate universe it's genuinely hilarious, If you're into fate universe, go read Fate/Strange Fake or El melloi for more worldbuilding, or be one of the three people that actually watched Kara No Kyoukai.
Mind you all of these have Fate/Zero vibes, so no fanservice or waifubait
The thing i like about FGO is that the free units from the fp gacha are not just some trash units but can actually be really useful, unlike some gacha games like Dokkan where anything that's not an ssr is just totally useless. Hell even a huge portion of the ssr cards are just straight up trash.
Also it doesn't really matter to me that it has little impact on the Fate universe, i actually really enjoyed the story chapters, even some events like the one going on right now have pretty decent stories and characters. As a VN FGO is pretty solid i'd say
"if you pay money, you can sometimes get 5 stars"
Like literally every gacha. Lol, how fucking deep are you people into this shit hole?
There's a really good gacha game called battle cats, I've been playing it for about a year. Have you seen it?
Hell Yeah for Battle Cats!
hell yeah bro
I actually deleted 4 gacha this past week due to that feeling of “what the hell am I doing with my free time and money?!” Now I have my three core ones, which I’m F2P in 2 of. I can definitely relate to a lot of this video. Very well made, excellent work!
Which ones did you keep?
Luke T I kept Dokkan Battle, Grand Summoners and Epic 7. E7 is my casual game, GS is not too heavy content-wise which I like so I only play for 10-15 min most days. Dokkan Battle I’ve been playing for almost 5 years soooo kind of hard to stop that one lol.
v Gold thanks, you too! I ended up using 600 ds, went hard on vegito’s banner. Ended up rainbowing multiple units from it, no new vegito LR though. Oh well, saving coins for him or when STR Cooler returns. How did the banners treat you?
In the past seven years ive spent well over twelve thousand dollars on dbz dokkan battle and only recently realized that i have a serious gambling issue. Ive been able to partly justify it because of my intense passion for dragon ball and the satisfaction of building my character box but the inevitability that one day the servers will be shut down and all that will be lost has become my main source of existential anxiety and it is absolutley terrifying
Quick question, which gacha game is worth playing for its quality and gameplay? I noticed you didn't really talk about skullgirls and I think that's a pretty good example of an acceptable gacha game
"$1170 on LoL" he shows, whilst I chuckle in despair at the somehow $3010 I've somehow spent without realizing it.
As a gacha player myself I have to say that I love how well you know when to do be serious and when to joke around, I 100% have enjoyed each gacha related vid you have released. Love the work behind them
4:50 me all the time in cookie run, even in my own guild i get bullied
God, I remember forcing myself to grind feathers and horde orbs in FEH because I kept telling myself "Next month they'll add a character I like", "The _next_ banner will have an alt of a character I care about", _"Next month,_ FEH pass will sell a png of a character I actually want...!"
I lied to myself like that for 4 years, and this year, I finally overcame the sunk cost fallacy and uninstalled the game, and it's like a weight was lifted off my shoulders. I still appreciate FEH for bringing new fans into the franchise, and providing art and voiced lines for decades-old, forgotten characters, but it honestly seems to be getting less enjoyable the longer it exists (unless you're someone who only plays because you like tapping on the anime waifus. Those people are probably still having fun).
This shit is like gambling bro, go to a gameroom and the folks in there dump money into a video slot machine and they be just like this, thats addiction for you
Was waiting for Yakko to talk abt Love Nikki: Dress Up Queen but then i remembered nobody cares abt it but me skfhdkfjdjdj
Love the vid man! Glad to know I wasn't the only one caught by Kingdom Hearts Unchained clutches. Dropped so much money on that game while in highschool and I also did the same and applied to be in a guild in the vulpes union called Yujo No Kokoro. We actually made it to the top of the global lux leaderboard too. But the game just wasn't fun anymore. A medal that would carry me would be completely overshadowed the next week and that made keeps my up in my party hard too. I had to cut the game and my party off cold turkey too keep myself from coming back. Play Gatcha games responsibly kids. Oh also Dragalia Lost for the win baby!
I really wish Dragalia Lost got the love it deserves. The devs are making it as accessible as possible to F2P and Newbies to learn the game and rewards Veterans or Endgame players to help the newbies by rewarding them. And I agree, 2-Part banners can suck a fat one but the devs need to make money somehow (but the collab characters are always below meta after a month or two. They're just there for collection. Being off-meta is completely viable with a coordinated team anyway). Also I want Yakko on my goddanm friend list: ID: 2276 6521 391. Anyone can add me, I hope Ellysane helps you.
well, there is marth, he's legit the best flame unit but I agree, DL does need more attention, it's a very well made game for a mobile gacha game.
FEH collab: Hold my beer
Dear gosh, Draglia Lost is by far the most fair gacha I played. The game always gives gems to pull for.
Yeah peony is the best light unit dps wise and chrom is third place in flame i believe tiki sucks balls tho
@@lunasperidot8760 Peony is only a buff wh*re bc people use it for that purpose, she isn't a must-have. Chrom is a simple delete-button for fire but still, not a must-have. Tiki is fine, she's only used for her dragon form and tanking stuff, she isnt game breaking or op compared to others. None of the collab characters are a must in current content. You can use whoever u want on any type of content with a coordinated team.
Genshin is the first and only gacha I play and it's nice because it doesn't give much incentive to pay and it actually encourages you to play very little. It gives you a big empty world full of goblins and slimes to kill so there's no reason to pay or care to maximize your characters because there's nothing to do with them.
i wish when you said overwatch had lootboxes it still held true, dumb company went and ruined it
Yakko, your video on gacha games has gotten me addicted to even more of them. Help.
Really can't wait until Fire Agito comes out so the water Spirals can be released and the king Xander can return
I myself awaits the arrival of Lily's Mana Spiral upgrade
I played union cross when it first came out and was part of a group called Kaiju. It was probably the best time I've played a mobile game. It was competitive and our team ranked first or at least top 10 consistently and even came up with a raid boss method where even lower level members could lux farm. We even had a person from an opposing team join ours to "infiltrate" and shared our method and optimized it and overtook us. It was the best experience and no other game has come close to that for me. I eventually quit because of the micro transactions and it was getting too much and eventually the original people on my team all left so it wasn't the same and P2W got so unbalanced. I miss it...
It's not gambling if you are F2P. HAH! Checkmate.
These kinds of videos make me miss Gotcha Force. The genre of "Gacha" can be completely single player and void of microtransactions and still be an awesome genre. Mobile games ruined the concept of playable character collectathons.
4:37 *laughs in Arknights events* I did. I got something from the experience.
Tanky enemies that hit range units are the ultimate evil and should be exterminated with all might.
Forget the 3 star result, I want the fuckers down.
Downing my whole squad to the point where every unit was on cooldown. Some of these ones were E2! How did you knock THEM out?!
...maybe I should've just used more than 2 casters. And...you know...learn to strategize. Still love the events.
Praying to RNGesus for SSR ships in Azur lane and this pops in my sub feed. Perfect timing
Time to grind for Richie
wonder when there is gonna be a genshin impact video lmao
My experience level with gacha games comes from only one, very simple looking game known as FitnessRPG, you literally make progress by walking, that's all it was, but it also had all those microtransactions you'd expect from gacha games (except not as outrageous). to be honest, I thought it was kinda fun, despite forcing myself to break my legs to get them sweet sweet level ups for my characters by reaching 10k (mostly) or 20k steps (because of guild reasons) only to have my ass kicked in the PvP section because I'm still a little far behind, after about 6 months straight of walking every single fucking day, I just stopped, I don't walk anymore, I'm bored of it lmao. However, I didn't make any friends along the way like Yakko did here, there was no chat system, so it was the loneliest grind you could ever attempt. 10/10 I hate my legs for working correctly.
Dragon Ball: Dokkan battle is the right way to do a gacha, tons of rewards, can be completely F2P, never makes you feel like you should pay
I'm here from the Dragalia Lost subReddit. I love DL. I love hearing people speak fondly about it. I've been fortunate enough to only spend (a truly irresponsible amount of) time on it.
I actually quit Marvel Contest of Champions over a year ago because I was playing it so much that it was negatively impacting my job and marriage.
Now my wife and I play Dragalia together and we're mostly reasonable about it.
I liked this vid. New sub acquired! (Sorry, I'm just a 3 star. I'm not even meta. You should probably roll again. )
I've playing gacha games at almost 6 years and what I have to say is: be a free to play for at least 6 months, a good gacha game can keep you playing whitout spending money, you dont have to "need" spending money, you spend money because you want do something for yourself and have -more- fun with it
So just have fun, on your
own way
real words of wisdom!