Kill la Kill & Space Dandy - Embracing the Unquantifiable (OR: THE UNIBROW)
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If somebody told me to watch a show based entirely on the premise of a dandy guy in space I would watch it. In fact I am watching it.
Same
The show is very good in saying what it is. I mean by that "dandy guy in space" is simply perfect line to attract the demographic that will enjoy the show. It's quite briliant when I think about it.
To me, the nudity in KLK didn't seem like it was intended to be sexual, since shame is a major theme of the show and whatnot. Before nudity is seen as sexual, it is seen as shameful.
+Dewayne C I was going to respond to this with something along the lines of "bro you on acid?"... but then I thought back... nudity in kill la kill is always associated with shame or liberation (satsuki/ragyou bath scene for example or ryuko wearing junketsu). It's always emotionally loaded. Kill la kill has almost no scenes with true plot-free fanservice.
Actually... After the first episode where I was like "WTF with this outfit and the nudity?" I totally accepted it and it didn't aroused me in any way. KLK is special...
Dewayne C I agree somewhat, but their are a few camera choices that I think counteract that point. Moments when the camera focuses on a sexual part of the body in a sexual way, which kind of bothers me because it kind of implies that sexual liberation of one's self and others looking at one is a sexual way are the same, and that's not a good message.
other than that one scene where ryuko falls off the platform and is hanging on her blade there isn't really anything meant to be purely fanservice
although all the fan service in klk is just stupidly over the top and is more funny than arousing
"This... is unibrow."
Goddarnit!
Quite the closer
I would add that the ultimate message of Space Dandy that you describe is more or less outright stated in the Viva All song. "All is all, everything is everything, nothing is replaceable". Much like a certain youtube hero, Space Dandy takes pleasure in going in a million different directions and presenting them as all equally awesome. constantly flip flopping between charmingly stupid, and emotionally poignant, because strictly choosing to show just one or the other is a fallacy of lesser art, and fails to capture a full perspective of the human experience.
I haven't seen Kill La Kill yet, but I do enjoy boobies.
after seeing kill la kill i stand by this comment. I do enjoy boobies.
So does dandy
This one was actually largely inspired by conversations with Drowning In Footwear about his love of undefinable emotional resonance!
bububububt, technicly its polybrow
but isnt as "funny" :P
Well the idea is that it's about "unification." Taking highbrow and lowbrow and bringing them together.
***** Oh, didn't think of that.
even punnier xD
***** "Unibrow." It's not just your choice of word. It's also how you said it. I want to facepalm till it hurts but there's no better word for this concise analysis. Curse you, Digibro. I like your explanation so much.
UNIBROW = Spirituality.
I think that's the best way I feel about Kill la Kill. It IS hilariously over the top fanservice, but that doesn't mean it's not allowed to have a message and have a serious plot. Challenging genre conventions shouldn't be about deconstruction or flipping the table on it's head, because all that does is create another trope or cliche. Instead, it should be possible to be both cliche and artistic; putting the absurd together with the serious. I admit, it bears the weight of being inconsistent and turning people off, but that style is why I like so many wacky animes like Is This A Zombie. I've always believed that what matters is the core of an experience, not how it's inevitably perceived, cause that's subjective. Just cause characters are wearing skimpy outfits, doesn't mean you cant take them seriously. It's easy to be turned off by an anime like The Wallflower, with it's bishoujo men and screaming gags, but you'll miss out on one of the nicest animes about self esteem and friendship. People moan SO MUCH about how so many animes are cliche and repetitive, yet the ones they flock to the most are just that. Which is fine, but that hypocrisy shows when they get annoyed by animes like this that try to be different. And they make excuses saying that it's 'cheap fanservice'. For all the hype an anime like Attack on Titan has, it's your typical gloomy shonen action anime and that was a hit despite not 'challenging genre conventions'. Kill la Kill is a polar opposite in how it blends so many themes and still manages to have mass appeal. It's not for everyone, I will admit, but it stands out as an anime that does alot without trying to pick one side
Actually, KLK is Satsuki-brow.
She does have quite the brow, doesn't she.
***** In both senses of the word.
I haven't seen "Space Dandy", but from how you described, I am getting vibes similar to that of "Adventure Time".
The Adventure Time episode "Food Chain" is directed by anime director Masaaki Yuasa, who also directed season 2 episode 3 of Space Dandy.
***** Is that so? That would explain why so far it has been the only Adventure Time episode where I said "What. The. Fuck" out loud.
I really loved how the episode looked though. I'm not sure why I didn't question it as much as everyone else seems to. Maybe it's because I can just go along for the ride and I'm still somewhat stuck in a child mindset?
+TheloyalArcanine and homestuck
You should watch it's very episodic but it's great
At first I was disappointed in Space Dandy because I expected it to be another Cowboy Bebop or Samurai Champloo. Yet another exciting and highly entertaining adventure of a crew of colorful and mysterious characters facing perilous challenges and emotional breakthroughs all in an episodic series of beautifily crafted and blended music,animation,directing, and writing... Space Dandy baffled me beyond repair. I enjoyed what I saw but I couldn't explain why. It wasn't AT ALL what I expected, yet I was entertained throughout its first season(still entertained now). Your video analyzing Space Dandy allowed to fully enjoy what I couldn't quantify because Space Dandy is whatever it wants to be! Each episode is different in alot of ways and has something new that you can analyze individually. It surpasse expectation by breaking your expectation. So in retrospect, I see now why I enjoy Space Dandy so much. Thanks Digi! Seeya Space Dandy...
Thanks for this! I was really trying to find themes and metaphors in those crazy 8 episodes of Space Dandy only to be kinda down because I didnt find any. And then suddenly its about not having a central theme. This is great ! =)
Space Dandy is my favorite anime of all times.
I am so tempted to rewatch space dandy again. I keep seeing ole dandy clips in my feed. Plus I keep replaying that Spacey Dandy Dance vid. That and I miss the madness. Stay dandy everyone!
Space dandy is my favourite show of all time :D But its sharing the place with Kuragehime =)
Awesome analysis. I've never thought of KLK like that before, but you surely opened my mind.
This is a great video! Space Dandy is one of my all time favorite shows and i've tried summing up to myself what makes it stand out as a grossly underrated and misunderstood show but usually couldn't find the words to do it justice. I think you did it great, and have also piqued my interest in KLK. You earned a subscriber in me 😉
I enjoyed the analysis of Space Dandy. The episodic nature of that show speaks to me, because I like the unpredictability of the stories. It's similar to human emotions, which can change on a whim. If I wanted to watch a sweet heart warming or serious episode I could pick 5, 8, 10, 13 or 15. There's episode 17 if I felt like watching a musical and many past episodes if I wanted insane comedy with a particular theme. Some people complain about the lack of plot and continuity, which makes it difficult to get attached to characters, but I wish more people could just "go with the flow" instead of "swimming in place" trying to confine the series with conventional structure and storytelling. I have not watched kill la kill, but it sounds interesting. I look forward to viewing more of your content keep up the good work!
Wow, what an incredible way to explain the feelings I had with these two shows back in 2014. I just rewatched Space Dandy in full after all these years, finishing the last episode last night, and this show ages like a fine wine. I was litteraly in tears by the end, with no real explanation why. I still dont fully understand why Kill la Kill, and Space Dandy in particular, give me certain unexplainable feelings that i dont get from deeper animes that I love just as equally like Evangelion or Fooly Cooly, but ill just say i love it. I look forward to rewatching this show in a few more years too, and discover even more hidden beneath the surface. Now to rewatch Cowboy Bebop! Lol
Uh, uh, I can define Space Dandy...it's a show that showcases the absurdity of the universe. It seemed to be like Rick and Morty, and Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy in that regard. It was "fun" because of how random and bat shit insane it was...
+Digibro The genre is "Cosmic Comedy". that is to say laughing about the absurdity of existence, and just how small we are as a species. Actually, as I'm listening you state this fact already. Now that I think about it you define exactly what Space Dandy is about. You say it can't be defined but then you define it, quite well in fact.
Kill la kill is also so underrated
Thank you for explaining this. You're good at it. Also "unibrow" is simultaneously dumb as rocks and a perfect description of what you explained. Very appropriate. :D
Everything is awesome of space dandy
Space Dandy to me is like another SGT Frog. Telling the characters day to day life while sometimes adding pop culture references in the mix.
Everything is everything, baby. What else is there to say?
just stop there "he's a dandy guy"... nuff said
I want to steal the term 'unibrow' from you. As an artist (a painter) I needed to hear this kind of thing! :) Thank you digi. Oh and sorry for spamming all your videos with comments haha!
I don't understand why so many people in the comments are insistent that KLK doesn't/shouldn't have any deeper meaning. I haven't seen it so to me it mostly looks like people splitting hairs over whether it's actually communicating an idea or just pretending to. Guess I'll have to watch it since it seems to be socially important, even though the first two episodes didn't hook me.
From my relatively uninformed perspective it looks like people who really don't want it to mean anything are protecting their own taste/ego so I guess I'll just have to find out for myself.
+Augustus Bohn The evidence is clearly there, I can't imagine why someone would say it doesn't have any deeper meaning. There's a lot of subtle connections to things that only make sense the more you think about them...
...if that isn't "deeper meaning" I don't know what is...
there is a lot of meaning in there, but it's also just stupidly over the top fanservice that's meant to be funny
"I am going to fuck my cat."
That's a pretty good summary of Space Dandy's plot, if you ask me.
Well friggen done digibro. Shout out to the horse man too!
I'm surprised it didn't devolve into a tits vs. ass debate. Now that's a dandy crossover.
What's "ass"? I think you mean *booty*.
I'm sure I can find some alternate universe where Dandy said it like that...
"I'm wearing the only clothes that matter, baby."
I can appreciate art that ignores standard criteria in order to do something wacky and unique that we don't usually see in conformist art, but I'm starting to get really bored of art that exists primarily to undermine an artistic paradigm, because once that paradigm is undermined, the art fails to have any more meaning. And it comes off as kinda arrogant in the meantime.
Luckily, both of these shows have lots of other resonant themes that make them entertaining with or without being subversive!
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That's the impression I got from your description of Space Dandy, but I was a little more concerned about Kill la Kill. Since you said it actively seeks to undermine artistic paradigm or something, while Space Dandy just ignores it.
***** KLK has a lot going on in it. The post I link in the description goes into depth about the historical allusions and central themes, but there's even more minor themes that appear on an episode by episode basis. It's one of the most thematically dense shows I've seen.
***** ***** Don't listen to this kid, KLK is shit xD
***** Don't remember arguing for its overall quality, but the fact is that KLK is excellent. And you like shit like Attack on Titan so you know, questionable taste and all.
I personally thought that Kill La Kill didn't so much subvert any tropes as it took them to crazy extremes. Gamagori isn't just manly, the guy's pecks have a face, Mako is beyond random and Satsuki is so dominating the cinematography stands to attention. Although, now that you mention it, each one also have moments that do flip their character, Gamagori and his bondage, Mako's time in the fight club and Satsuki's... 'complicated' relationship with her mum and although I don't really wanna argue any of these things arn't just for the fun times, I guess you could be right... I just, kinda doubt it.
It can be both! They're both symbolic and just for fun. Like I said, no room for dichotomies--all of it serves every possible purpose.
Holy fuck, that ending. Bravo.
The spoiler really helped me understand what was trying to be accomplished with Kill la Kill, so I can definitely respect it more, but in this case I think it's something that's just not for me. As far as I got, I didn't really see the nudity theme coming yet, and the otherwise "low-brow" content and inconsistent animation made me drop it.
That said, I am tempted to give it another go to get the full meaning. Thanks for pointing me this way, Digi. At the very least I'm extremely interested in watching Space Dandy now, if for just the brilliant art and animation alone. Holy shit, did the clips you showed look impressive.
i love both these animes
Haha... oh man... this video encapsulates pretty much everything I can't appreciate in art
Or maybe it was just opening with Jackson Pollock and Duchamp instantly put me in a sour mood
I find an enormous irony in the influence of The Fountain.
Another great video! And even if it was shit, alone for the unibrow-slogan you captured and capsized my ♥ .
Seems like a roundabout way to point out a merging of styles and ideas or,in the case of Dandy, a disregard for them in favor of flowing between them.
Oh man, Space Dandy is definitely one of the best series I've watched!
...Let's hope this'll go under a readmore or something because I seriously don't feel qualified nor smart enough to say anything at all.
I have to admit that I wouldn't really be able to describe the series in any comprehensive, definite way, but at least one can say that it's mostly a show about a man who's not very good at his job, but who doesn't really care as long as he does well enough to have the money to go to his favorite restaurant. He and his two companions are often thrown into strange situations that more often than not appear funny or comedic on the outside, but which usually turn out to be more serious below the surface, and sometimes even just outright heart-breaking.
Also, what I find interesting is how the only times anyone is attracted to him is when he doesn't return their feelings, just like how none of the people he's attracted to return to his. And also also, his womanizer-personality seems more like a facade than not, and something he just uses to seem like he cares less about things or is less serious than he actually is.
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I can't say too much about KLK, though, because the show's oftentimes so fast-paced and hectic that it just totally overwhelms me. D:
Did not expect the unibrow.
That last thing you said.....was so bad I tore a phonebook in half...now It's Tearable.....
i really like this view on things.
My two most favorite anime ever
Alright you convinced me to watch Kill La Kill :)
...was that all buildup to that pun? I... am pained, yet humbled.
I personally don't think we can understand every single thought of a human mind nothing truly can. And some people can explain why they like space dandy in great detail I've seen it here and there one common answer is the thrill of a betrayal of expectation coupled with character's that interest them. Its not to hard to pin down on a personal level your over thinking it a bit. It was still an interesting video great job:D
It's less that I'm overthinking it and more that I'm deliberately generalizing it.
Hmmm yeah i guess there are many ways you could come at shows like theses. Perhaps instead of Unquantifiable there are many ways one could quantifiable these's shows. Making no one way the right way to view it But instead all ways equally correct. Also do you know if kill la kill is getting a dub?
Kill la Kill dub should be out very soon. They had most of the cast at Otakon debuting the dub there.
***** Fucking Awesome i hope they did a good job am a big fan of dubs! Sadly so many people can't admit that dubs can be good because of dubs from the likes of 4kids:( I point them to anime like mushishi but they still hold on to the biases.
***** Hehehehehe....If 4kids dubbed Kill la Kill...hehehehe....Funny video....
That last line just won you a subsciber gg well played
Holy f*** 2 of my favorite shows😃
Space Dandy is the best fuckin series ever
FUN
F- Is for Friends who do stuff together
U- Is for you and me
N- is for anywhere at any time at all down here in the deep blue sea
THE FUCKING CONCLUSION XD
I love BooBies! ...Sorry. ^^;
The fact that it doesn't always get wrapped up in story is one of my favorite things about the show actually, partly because it leaves more room for the fun stuff, and because it lets you're imagination go wild with why some things are happening. Like, why is Dr. Gel trying to capture Space Dandy? As much as it makes the show seem slightly incomplete and indescribable, it allows for personal thought to take over. Which, as a fan of the head-canon, lore, fan conspiracy movements of most fandoms, made me fall in love with it right away. Invader Zim kind of had the same thing going for it, like episodes finishing without cleaning up loose ends, except it actually explain more of the underlying reasons as to why things are happening.
Please remember to source the fanart you use in these videos, either in the description, with some end credits, or with an annotation. You really should also be asking for permission, but the least you could do is provide a source, especially since you make money off these videos. Other than that, your videos are informative and enjoyable!
this is exactly why there were so many poopoo jokes in Shakespeares writing
I am love ❤️ kill la kill so much ❤️
The unibrow thing reminded me of "And then there's Applejack..."
But then I look at the title. lol
Still have yet to watch either, though if I were to watch either it would probably be Kill la Kill. What happens in it, even?
Lots of fighting and epic music.
You know what I mean. Like, why are they fighting and stuff.
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Clothes, they are fighting because of clothing.
Why would they do that? People should just wear what they want to wear, man.
+rocker26a
It will make sense when you watch it.
You're like the' Idea Show' of Anime
Like for the last line
Space Dandy is exactly how I feel about Homestuck.
+maggintons
When does Homestuck get good? I can't get that far into it.
I think around [S]John enter is when it gets interesting. but there's similar introductions to the other kids which are rather quicker.
maggintons
Okay, around when does that happen?
Wiziliz that should be the name of the page when you find it on the page list.. I think.
I found this entirely
**Tips**
space dandy: a show about whatever the fuck it wants to be.
(i know because it told me so xD)
That Gintama reference lol Gintoki shall be missed.
+KageRyuuUji
That episode was hilarious. xD
What anime at 5:22 plz it looks so cool
I loved Space Dandy so much. Kill La Kill lost me after a little while because it tried too hard imo.
I think that crazy if improperly introduced can be harmful to your series. I thought that dandy was great but I also thought kill la kill was not up to the hype. The difference is one has a crazy second half while the other has islands of normal in a sea of crazy.
... are we going to compare every current anime to Kill La Kill now? The last video u added was about Kill La Kill too.
I came up with both of these posts after the KLK panels at Otakon and reading the KLK analysis linked in the description.
both these shows have highly problematic elements to them but I still end up enjoying and often recommending the both of them anyway. (so long as people are not watching these shows passively and are willing to be critical of them both)
then again that's a subject for another time XD
I think the word is "Parody."
So how's that Zankyou No Terror going?
In my opinion, it's been really good and deserves to stand among Watanabe's other shows. Hell, depending on how it handles the final few episodes, it could be his best since Cowboy Bebop.
I couldn't agree more.
Only episode 11 cuz 12 didnt make it
The point of math is to go beyond the capabilities of the brain. a lot of time math helps you get to conclusions that our brains could never comprehend. Also you do not have to quantify something to use math to analyze it. economics uses math to analyze satisfaction without quantifying satisfaction.
Space dandy is not unquantifiable. You just quantified it, with a bunch of words. Or "described" it, if that fits the semantics best.
And no one is ever nude in Kill la Kill, they're always at least wearing a tactically place ray of light or the constraints of the "camera".
1:47 You're welcome
Who care, baby!
Do you like Inglorious basterds? I personally didn't find anything enjoyable in it, and I am yet to find people with decent points on why they did.
It's one of my favorites! I'm sure there's some good reviews out there that could explain it.
Brad Pitt is in it.
1:46 nuuuuuuuu
Lol, Gintama.
Why is Ryuko so short, I know she's a teenage girl but at that height she's pretty much a midget
You've just lined up the exact reasons why KLK is probably my least liked out of Imaishi. I'm all for creative expression outside of the norm like SD, but KLK just can't decided on what it is and neither can the fans. I'm not sure weather it's the shows fault for being so dubious in direction or if it's the fans that over analyzing things. Here you try to argue that it can be all in good fun and philosophically insightful, but in doing so make's the show come off as lazy and pretentious. Gluing personal context to a bare bone show is only going to make it ugly and unattractive. It takes away from the simplicity KLK was aiming for and by proxy it's appeal. That's not to say I don't see the symbolism scattered throughout, but it comes back to simplicity and how each symbol was probably thrown in on a whim rather then something to be explored and fleshed out.
I disagree that KLK "can't decide" what it is. I think it very confidently aims to be multiple things at once. Moreover, I don't see anything lazy about it, it's a thoroughly entertaining show that has a really deep backdrop to it. Having seen Charles Dunbar's panel on the show and read the post linked in the description, it would be really difficult for me to imagine that KLK didn't purposely utilize a strong backdrop of culture and reference to inform its storytelling.
I can understand how a show seeming unfocused could be unattractive to some people, but personally I don't think Kill la Kill underperforms at anything it sets out to do, be it entertainment or symbolism or reference, And I'm always a fan of "more is more" presentation, so seeing a show overstuffed with neat things it always a plus in my book.
***** I said it "can't decide" due to the sheer volume of analysis people made and that the show itself doesn't directly acknowledged or deny every little thing fans have fleshed out. The backdrop is only there to accentuate the wackiness of the show and the absurdity of it's characters. It's when people start making mountains out of molehills from the pseudo symbolism sprinkled throughout that the show starts to become more and more pretentious.
Imaishi has used similar symbolism in previous works, which depending on the context of it's usage is a hit or miss. In the context of KLK it's not so much as deep and profound as it is aesthetically pleasing. Being Tiggger's big debut series and Imaishi's "fresh" start it's much more reasonable to assume that KLK is the famed directors way of cutting lose and going all out rather then shattering conformist standards.
It just might come down to opinion but where you see a show brimming with references and Easter eggs waiting to be deciphered, I see Imaishi's flaunting his signature art style as a declaration of personal and occupational freedom. The whole series thrives on the whimsical execution of tropes and archtypes rather then meticulous planning and details. Enjoy at your own leisure but context outside of KLK should remain that way, else KLK will only decline in it's simplistic appeal.
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Is FLCL decidedly simplistic for you too? Because I'm sure the show is lauded by the sharper critics for the exact opposite reason. And it's never a bad thing, too, because if it appears simplistic to you or anyone else, well, why not? You still enjoy it, right?
KLK has a very solid ideological backbone that doesn't take a genius to notice and discover, and it doesn't detract at all from everything fun that is on the surface and in-your-face. Denying the existence of that backbone, however, is what puzzles me. All of its thematic elements are entirely self-consistent and cross-consistent, and some of them laid really really thick, a lot thicker than any self-respecting director would do to introduce an easter egg. To make it clear: when Haruko screams "Daicon V!" in one of FLCL episodes, that's a typical easter egg, and it doesn't affect the show's reading to any significant extent. But when you have the same basic idea continuously reiterated by several characters of KLK in some key plot points, that's the backbone showing up, and it has relevance to the show's indended reading.
moozooh You confuse having a backbone with having something worthwhile. Artistically FLCL and KLK have much in common, but that's where it ends. FLCL didn't have to wade though 24 episodes in order to paint it's simple message and it sure didn't repeat itself over and over.
KLK is fun and over the top but there is no primary direction to pull all it's subversive themes together as each can be the leading focal point in of itself. You can argue that it's an artistic decision to be meta but if you do then that's where this conversation ends. I obviously am in the camp that sees KLK for what it is, what it hints at, and no more. You, like Digibro, sees what it purports to be; which to paraphrase "it is what it is and it isn't anything else, but it's also EVERYTHING ELSE!". I'm all for reaching out and touching multiple subjects but there is a point of diminishing returns and sooner or later you have to decide on one set over another. KLK is the rare instance where they decided to put all their eggs in one basket, except though some godlike power, that seems only available to Imaishi Hiroyuki, that basket didn't break. There is so many things in the basket to grab and move around that at the end of the day you'd have oodles of fun but what exactly you needed to take out of that basket isn't made clear. That's how KLK will be remember because that's what it is; one big basket full of everything.
FLCL on the other hand was articulated beautifully so eventually that "ahha" moment would be dawned on viewers. There wasn't anything in excess nor was anything lacking; it had achieved beautiful balance. KLK clearly is the polar opposite. It turned every dial to the max and let it play out from there in classic Imaishi Hiroyuki style humor and animation. Of course your camp seems to focus on all the pseudo symbolism to the point where the show itself is constantly cycling though differently attributes. If you want to believe that it's fine and all, but having almost religiously followed one of my most idolized directors of all time I don't think he wasn't trying to impress anyone trying to be deep or philosophical. Instead KLK was him going all out and is declaration of his studio's existence for preparation as to what's to come in the near future.
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Thanks for lumping me in "my camp", by what honor did I even deserve that? I guess I'm in a good company though.
See, your exact argument could be applied to FLCL just as well because "all the pseudo symbolism", as is historically evident, is as much of a typical reaction to it. But you for some reason consider it beautifully articulated and not at all artificial or farfetched. Why is it exactly, because you like it better or because it's easier for you to follow?
"It is what it is and it isn't anything else, but it's also EVERYTHING ELSE" is more of a jokular thing, but the show does aim to subvert or outright destroy dichotomies, established or false. As the author of the original article to which Digibro links argues, KLK uses maturation/coming of age as an overarching narrative vessel rather than the main narrative concept, and fleshes out other ideas, concepts, and symbols by its means. Transfixed on it are the strongest thematic conflicts: shame vs. control, rebellion vs. submission, open individuality vs. protective coverage, unity vs. oppression, fulfilling parental debt, false dichotomies, and so on. This is the backbone we're talking about. These themes are actively explored over the course of the plot and character development and are fleshed out in pretty much every episode in some form, such as by interactions between Ryuko and other characters: Mako, Senketsu, Satsuki, Ragyo. All of these conflicts are resolved by the end of the show, which completes plot development. Whereas faschism puns, historical references, religious/mythological symbols and the like, being a fun and important social commentary, is just casually mentioned or hinted at, but not really explored in any detail, and thus none of it gets a proper resolution or elaboration-and doesn't need to, either. Can't you see these elements aren't even on the same narrative level? Why do you insist on lumping them together and dismissing as if they're the same thing?
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big fat fucking eyebrows
It had a bad dub....
Which one? Space Dandy had one of the best dubs I have ever seen. I haven't seen Kill la Kill's, though.
Gay
I honestly hate Kill la Kill for it's awful pacing and unlikeable characters.
How can you not love Gamagoori and Mako? Or be fascinated with Satsuki? I think the characters kick ass. Also the pacing is awesome, I like it fast and frenetic.
comparing KLK & SD to the likes of Inglorious Bastards & Kill Bill? I've hinted at this before on your Space Dandy vid but honestly I think you're reading into this a little more than you should. kinda like a english teacher reading Dr. Seuss's 'Green Eggs and Ham' & trying to convince the students that there's philosophy & the human condition laced within the story. Not everything is suppose to be "deep". Overthinking and overblowing these shows themes just comes off as pretentiousness on your part. If anything should be taken away from Dandy & KLK is that even great creators can have fun too.
I think you're significantly underestimating the intents and skills of the people making these shows. There is WAY more than enough evidence in KLK that alludes to massively deep themes--if you haven't read the post linked in the description, you really need to, as it goes into depth about these things. Seriously, why would these shows NOT be as deep as Kill Bill? Why would creators known for making deep and intricate stories not be expected to make more of the same? I mean, there's literally no question in my mind that the things I've said reflect the intentions of the creators. This isn't something I feel I'm stretching to make fit, this is pretty clearly evident in the text. Space Dandy literally had a whole episode dedicated to characters SINGING about these themes.
***** Yes the creators are highly regarded but that doesn't mean they have to be "deep" everytime they create something. Since you refereanced Quentin Tarantino i'll use him as an example. Django, like Kill Bill & Bastards, takes a dark subject like slavery but makes upbeat and comical. Django wasn't there to preach "slavery is bad" or philosophy, It simply played out as a western esk flick with well placed humor. Directors can have FUN too. I've watched Dandy & from what i gather from is ideas & themes that Watanabe may have thought of but never got to express in a medium.Which would makes sense since all the episodes seem to convey a different atmosphere & theme. There isn't continuity with the episodes but rather each episode stands independent like a different show altogether. In short it feels like Watanabe is "letting loose" and enjoying himself
***** I feel like people set themselves up to expect alot or less when they find out who the creators behind the project is. If people were to simply watch the anime for what it is THEN do research on the creators after their "bias" views won't leak through
But Django was plenty deep and had a really gripping narrative and well developed characters, and even symbolism and a broader cultural context collision between western films and German myths...
It's not like enjoying yourself and being deep are mutually exclusive. Sort of like how I can't really enjoy a show without analyzing it, I imagine that the directors actually enjoy making something meaningful and deep. I just don't get where you're coming from with this idea that being fun precludes it from being deep.
***** I think you're reading too much into the show because of the creators behind it. If you didn't know who created it you might not have dig deep into what you were watching. What if Watanabe made Elfen Lied? I feel like you would try to find deep meaning in that too. Not because you thought the anime was meaningful BUT because you show bias towards creators you hold in high regards.