the REAL Ford Death Wobble Fix on a BRAND NEW F350

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  • @WeCanExploreIt
    @WeCanExploreIt  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Hope this video was helpful! Let me know if you have any questions and I'll do my best to help!
    Here are the LINKS:
    NAPA Bushing (for 2023 Ford): www.napaonline.com/en/p/NCP2643953
    AMAZON Bushing: amzn.to/44e93TG

    • @jamoncito37
      @jamoncito37 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I only see the bushing listed for 2x4 not 4x4. Do you find there is a difference? I noticed your white truck was 4x4. Thanks

    • @WeCanExploreIt
      @WeCanExploreIt  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamoncito37 the bushing listed should be for the 4x4, the black truck was a 4x4 too. Thanks!

    • @chriscoleman2724
      @chriscoleman2724 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I ordered the ones off Amazon and didn’t get any directions where can I find that chart you had thanks Chris

    • @greyhawk5990
      @greyhawk5990 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I just picked up a 2024 F-350. This is so helpful! Thank you 😊

  • @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
    @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I guess you've seen videos of "experts" and "chassis engineers" replacing parts to resolve death wobble.
    Anyway, respect for solving the actual problem where even the "experts" fail.

  • @lucasbroadway7409
    @lucasbroadway7409 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey man I swapped the bushing went got my 2013 F250 aligned and totally fixed my truck!! Thanks alot! Turns out being able to align the truck properly works! Thanks again!

  • @grandprixgtp2001
    @grandprixgtp2001 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    As a former Belle Tire mechanic and alignment tech this video is great. I always installed them on the rack. This will not solve worn parts, but Fords were notorious for poor OEM alignment specs. I remember 6 degrees of positive camber on the vans, terrible suspentuon design and no adjustability. Bravo

    • @vincentpate9144
      @vincentpate9144 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These have always been adjustable. It's done the same way you adjust camber on a 18 wheeler or an A model. They are bent with proper tooling to achieve this result.

    • @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
      @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not adjustable? He just adjusted his and showed how, in this video?

  • @joeybarkanator1542
    @joeybarkanator1542 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    THANK YOU for this video series! I have a 2006 F250 that I've had for 10 years. In Jan 2023 I put a set of like new, good used, goodyear tires on it. I don't drive it much as I have a company vehicle. 2 months later while coming down I-75 in N Florida, I hit a POT HOLE and that started my death wobble experiences. I figured I had knocked a wheel weight off the truck. It happened one more time on that trip. I had the balance checked and the tires are still perfectly balanced. A few more trips to N Florida and back from Tampa and I just avoided as many potholes as possible and have not had the DEATH Wobble again, until last month, June of 2024. I going about 70MPH, in the center lane, It was SO BAD that from the center lane that the truck was going for the center jersey wall/wire and I couldn't steer it away from it going there, I HAD to hit the brake HARD to at least slow the impact, and FORTUNATELY, as soon as the truck slowed under 55MPH, the DEATH WOBBLE stopped and I merely missed the wall/wire by about 1 foot. Since then, I stepped up my research on the DEATH WOOBLE. LOTS of videos on the band-aid fix of adding steering dampeners. That didn't seem to be the fix in my eyes AT ALL, so I kept researching and have FINALLY stumbled on your videos and this REALLY REALLY MAKES SENSE! I am ordering the bushings from Amazon and will be replacing them next week. I will try to come back here with an update. Again, THANKS for your videos on this and nice job on the shameless plugs in your videos. Good luck on your internet ventures.

  • @pappysproductions
    @pappysproductions 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Boop,Boop!
    I subscribed.
    I started this video, left to go watch the other video and now I'm back to watch this one.

  • @danarnold5947
    @danarnold5947 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you so much for this video. I’ve been having the death wobble on my 2014 f350 dually. Have replaced the stabilizer and that only helped minimally. Not much play in other steering components. Was about to purchase all new components for the front end but will try this first. Again, thank you.

  • @thatredlimited4809
    @thatredlimited4809 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dude, you killed this video. Amazing job. Thank you thank you for this!

  • @r.weaver3769
    @r.weaver3769 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I did thousands of these at the shop I worked at. They claimed I was the only one who could fix death wobble and not eat up the tires. I was one of the few that could tell the body shop how much and where to pull the frame so normal alignments could be accomplished. I made cars that dealers and several other shops could not go straight and not wear tires. Best one was a lexus that was in litigation because it could not be aligned by 15 alignment shops including 3 dealers. The lawyer was mad that I fixed it. Problem isn't they couldn't fix them, being on flat rate pay prevented them from putting in the time necessary to doing the job right. It's why parts they get paid to replace sometimes never get installed despite the customer still paying for it, and why good techs are leaving the field.

    • @jimmyaber5920
      @jimmyaber5920 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you! I am retired from the biz and green bands on a computer screen is so far from what makes a truly correct alignment.

  • @larryfetters212
    @larryfetters212 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I bought my 99 F250 brand new. 2wd, v10.
    It just turned 117k miles. I know low miles.
    I’ve had very lil problems with the truck over the 25 years.
    Took it to a local mechanic to have some routine maintenance…
    check brakes,
    and whatnot.
    Now I have the death wobble but my camber caster looks way different.
    Now I have the death wobble

  • @YoungOzzy432
    @YoungOzzy432 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Most alignment shops will not align your truck. If you have those on there they want to go back with a solid bushing. Because those adjustable bushings move and I cost $500 to do an alignment on one of those trucks. I charge labor to take the bushings out put them back in and then do a heavy duty alignment about five $600. It’s crazy.

    • @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
      @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The alignment shop I took my 1995 4x4 to, told me it was very close to spec but they could align it if I insisted. I don't think they intended on doing this the hard way... If I recall, they mentioned an adjustable bushing. Well, I opted to leave as-is, it's never had any issues and has never been adjusted. I think that's no coincidence.

  • @Itspronouncednuclear
    @Itspronouncednuclear 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome video. Had the DW a couple times on my 2017 with only 10k miles. Ford put a new stabilizer on, and so far so good, but if it happens again I will be installing these bushings!

  • @Angelbach1995
    @Angelbach1995 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is my first truck that I've kept after warranty... I'm no mechanic...
    Do i need an alignment after this fix? Will this be the fix for a 2012 450 duly?
    I don't need the AH answers that a few here spewed. Just need the info.
    TIA

  • @makingmustangsgreatagain
    @makingmustangsgreatagain 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your most positive while keeping the camber green and and cross caster split not more then 1.0 degrees about .5 or so to keep it driving straight on most roads road crown requires .5 degree lower caster on the left side if your split is to high it will pull to the lowest side ford had a bad batch of steering stablizers a few years back caused excessive death wobble in most of the big trucks reason for the recall to replace them, you video is good you have the right idea but i would recommend letting a professional handle the fine tunning put them in. fine save some labor providing there's enough ajustabilty to keep it .5 degrees split to the left and keeping the camber green and about the same on both sides then a toe adjustment and center the steering wheel adjustment and your golden 🏆💪🔧🚗🇺🇸

  • @LifeNameUnknown
    @LifeNameUnknown 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video! Now solve the hop that happens from 45-50mph!

    • @Yugsie
      @Yugsie 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Check rear drums if equipped. Mine weren't balanced ri g t

  • @richadroseland8416
    @richadroseland8416 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 2011 right side has 4.0 positive castor the left side has 4.4 negative castor can I adjust just the left side? Thanks Great video sometimes I hate these trucks.

  • @alizaguirre2972
    @alizaguirre2972 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you know if the 2020 F250 4x4 bushings are the same as the 2020 f250 two wheel drive I can’t find the bushing on eBay they are saying that the two wheel drive won’t fit my truck

  • @AgapeLoveAutomotive
    @AgapeLoveAutomotive 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My brother’s truck has death wobble, I’m going to try this and see if this fixes it. The front end may also be worn, but I’m going to try this first.

  • @JohnNoble-gb1jb
    @JohnNoble-gb1jb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This guy is good

  • @spencerdaines8847
    @spencerdaines8847 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have a 24 and when I added 2.5 of caster I had a problem with vibrations in the passenger side axel. It turns out that the 24s have a “dummy hub” on the passenger side and not a standard manual locking hub like the 23s and older. Have you had any issues with vibrations or noises on the passenger side hub from adding caster?

    • @WeCanExploreIt
      @WeCanExploreIt  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I haven't noticed any vibrations yet, but I only added 1.5 to the 24. What speeds are you noticing the vibration? Thanks for the heads up BTW

    • @spencerdaines8847
      @spencerdaines8847 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      From 5mph +

    • @WeCanExploreIt
      @WeCanExploreIt  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@spencerdaines8847 We are on the road now, in Flagstaff, and I didn't notice any vibration from the passenger side for the thousand miles or so from Tennessee. Did you try dialing it down a bit to see if it was still there? I really did like 1.5 positive on the trip, it felt like it made a difference on the new truck.

    • @greyhawk5990
      @greyhawk5990 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@WeCanExploreIt The Napa & Amazon websites indicates that the linked bushing (from your pinned link) does not fit the 2024 F-350. Any thoughts on searching for the correct bushing?

  • @fields19892000
    @fields19892000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im looking at doing casters for my f350 diesel 2009. My local store only has a 2.0 would that be ok?

    • @WeCanExploreIt
      @WeCanExploreIt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would think +2 would be a good place to land.

  • @girizwald123
    @girizwald123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2006 F250 FX 4x4 v10 extra cab 8ft bed. Death wable is so Bad. Will it fix

    • @WeCanExploreIt
      @WeCanExploreIt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's definitely worth a shot!

  • @nazdackster
    @nazdackster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watched another video and did mine. Check alignment first. My 2010 was dead nominal at 200k with death wobble, so I was able to use 2.5° shims and all fixed. Not a hint of wobble starting, and my 5th wheel tracks true even in heavy wind. It was a major handful in wind before. 2.5° doesn't sound like much but it is huge. USE SOLID SHIMS unless something is wrong from factory... Too much potential for someone to screw it up with combo shims, it's hard enough for people to understand as it is. Didn't even bother to check after, runs like a dream, but I checked everything else first, it is all tight. I notice zero additional effort at low speeds. 2° may be enough for yours.

  • @derekdineen3896
    @derekdineen3896 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Both casters need to be replaced I’m assuming?

    • @WeCanExploreIt
      @WeCanExploreIt  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, I would do both.

  • @Steve-fp9yw
    @Steve-fp9yw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nick, Did you label your before and after photos wrong? I thought you wanted more rake back after the bushing install. I am not seeing that in the photos as labeled.

    • @WeCanExploreIt
      @WeCanExploreIt  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hey Steve, the photos are correct. What you're looking for is to pull back the top part of the hub toward the back of the vehicle. Since I only added 1.5 degrees, the movement is less pronounced, but if you look at the line in the pic, the top is farther back than the original. The picture actually looks like it's opposite rake, but when you put weight on the wheels, the "rake" is more like what you would see on a bike. Thanks!

    • @supersportimpalass
      @supersportimpalass 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      His picture is deceiving as it shows a line on the caliper for the before and after pictures which in reality doesn’t show the actual relationship of the top and bottom ball joints. The top of the spindle is farther back than the bottom. The bushing moves the spindle an extra 1.5 degrees towards the back

  • @LKMKully
    @LKMKully 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So what actually happenes to that bushing to cause the death wobble? Does it wear or turn some how?
    I have a 2015 F350......garage says everything is tight, but at 90kmh the wobble is violent!!!
    Good video!!

    • @nazdackster
      @nazdackster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The design spec is simply wrong and has been forever. The only way to fix is with more caster. If it is in-spec, it is high risk.

    • @LKMKully
      @LKMKully 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@nazdackster then why wasnt it corrected, with a recall?? If its something as simple as a 35.00 part!!
      I know FORD have changed the part number on the steering dampener 3 or 4 times now and came out with bigger & beefier ones. Doing this they must have known something as well.

    • @nazdackster
      @nazdackster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LKMKully I don't know, but I've worked with Ford engineering for years and they can take a long time to correct things. Certain design changes may be considered an admission of guilt and I believe there is pressure from above to insist the design is ok and prevent recalls. In cases like this where a cheap fix gets the job done, you're better off to take care of it yourself. That's what I did. And I'll tell you, most of the engineers are good or great, and very involved and interested. I haven't bought anything but Ford for years since working on projects with those guys, but I think ALL auto manufacturers suffer from this phenomenon. Plenty of guys know what to do and can't get it through the bureaucracy. Sad, but I get it.

    • @nazdackster
      @nazdackster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Except possibility Tesla... Elon constantly applies really high pressure to never do dumb things, and if you already did, change design on the fly immediately. Great manufacturing guy.

    • @nazdackster
      @nazdackster 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LKMKully My theory on the newer models is there are two oscillations going on. One is steering wheel left-right, and once this has enough energy, it begins true death wobble, which is a self reinforcing oscillation of wheel hop and front end geometry. More caster should prevent both. At least it did on my 2010, but that style doesn't start with the higher frequency steering oscillation.

  • @xtremeairvents
    @xtremeairvents 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just did this on my ‘23 and it pulls hard to the left after install. Are you immediately getting it re-aligned after? It seems like your just dropping them in and driving away. What’s your thoughts?

    • @kairu_aname
      @kairu_aname 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      7:35
      Did you not watch the video?

  • @FishDonkey
    @FishDonkey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So how does adding positive caster alter tire wear and does it handle the same on ice?

    • @todd8359
      @todd8359 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Caster is a "non-wear" adjustment!

  • @scottscornerrd
    @scottscornerrd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    6000 miles and your CP4 went out. Did the dealer cover everything and did they give you any hassle? Asking because I just bought a new 2023 f350 with standard 6.7 and have 1600 miles on it.

    • @WeCanExploreIt
      @WeCanExploreIt  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Scott the HP4 went out on the white truck, the 2020 with 110k

    • @scottscornerrd
      @scottscornerrd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok my misunderstanding, either way that’s an expensive repair bill.

    • @jessetait5839
      @jessetait5839 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Will you put in a disaster prevention kit on the new truck? That’s one of the first things I did on my SD.

  • @jelly-qs5fy
    @jelly-qs5fy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you do this to both tires on the front?

    • @moosejaw50
      @moosejaw50 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes. You do it to both sides. Then get it aligned to fix any toe issues and verify the caster/camber.

  • @DumbCarGuy
    @DumbCarGuy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard after you do this when you add caster it changes your axle swing as it leaves your axle tube and will eventually eat up your outer axle tube dust shield.

    • @alanhall4226
      @alanhall4226 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are correct. On the older fords, mid 2000's we used a leaf spring shim that fit between the spring and axle. We usually put 6 degrees positive shim in to eliminate the wobble.

    • @Angelbach1995
      @Angelbach1995 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@alanhall4226I have a 2012 450... should this be done instead?

  • @SkittleShortz
    @SkittleShortz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey please help. How did you get the truck aligned

  • @mbmpablo3631
    @mbmpablo3631 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! What part number do you get from napa?🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @luiscollazo7697
    @luiscollazo7697 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How can find out how much caster to give my 2010 f250 ?

    • @DavidBrown-di7vb
      @DavidBrown-di7vb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Carli says 2 degree for leveled and 1 degree for 4-5" lift, If I recall correctly. I just ordered 2degree for my leveled truck

  • @michaelsummerson6781
    @michaelsummerson6781 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't find part number on either video description..

  • @charlesyoungblood7561
    @charlesyoungblood7561 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cannot find the links to purchase the bushings.
    Please help…

    • @WeCanExploreIt
      @WeCanExploreIt  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pinned comment on the video is where the links are. Thanks !

  • @cwtex59
    @cwtex59 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 2020 F45 and have never had the wobble issue. Maybe a 450 is different, also know a lot of guys with Superduties that haven’t had this issue.

    • @Angelbach1995
      @Angelbach1995 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have a 2012 450. Mine started at 90k. 5k in parts and labor. Still a vibration @55-65mph. It was seriously jumping before the other "fixes. " one of the fixes made it all worse. Drove it 2 miles away and sent it right back to shop. It's a real pain and I'm not a mechanic. Not sure I have the equipment to do this, but it looks easy enough if I can.

  • @DennisWintjes2
    @DennisWintjes2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for sharing. Like 634

  • @RazorSharp_313
    @RazorSharp_313 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ford death wobble has been a thing for -- well since blue oval designed a front end.

  • @LKMKully
    @LKMKully 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok, but why didnt this happen from day one, when I purchased my F350? That's what puzzles me. Why take years to have this happen now? Those castor bushing dont wear.

  • @BloodCover
    @BloodCover 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What are you asking for the van

  • @oldwisdom1026
    @oldwisdom1026 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2023 f350
    My death wobble is the worst I’ve ever experienced in 50yrs!!!!
    Love the truck hate the death wobble!!!!

  • @danbrown8310
    @danbrown8310 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    but didn't it turn when you tight it it looked like it

  • @craigsnyder7747
    @craigsnyder7747 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1 1/8" Nut? I believe it is a 3/4" nut which takes a 1 1/8" socket.

  • @delbertpozernick9879
    @delbertpozernick9879 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hello

  • @rockie307
    @rockie307 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonder why I've never had the death wobble ? Nobody I know in real life has but I see it all over the internet. Why do some have and some dont?

    • @yancywagner3146
      @yancywagner3146 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've never had it and never seen or known anyone that had it, until I did recently. I get it turning left and hitting a bump. I was going to rebuild the entire front end. While looking for a vid rebuilding the 06 f-250 6.0 I found this. Going to inspect everything and change the bushings at the next oil change in less than 500 miles.
      I can recreate the wobble so I should know in the next few weeks. Feel free to hit me up in a few months. All I am going to do is the bushings and try it. Not even going to get an alignment before driving it.

    • @kairu_aname
      @kairu_aname 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@yancywagner3146
      Any news?

    • @Angelbach1995
      @Angelbach1995 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@yancywagner3146I've got a 2012... other than the damn DEF system, this is the only thing I hate about this truck.

  • @delbertpozernick9879
    @delbertpozernick9879 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    r u there

  • @lhurst9550
    @lhurst9550 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah no, it seems you do not know what death wobble is. It is a rapid oscillation of the front end from side to side. Only occurs in linked coil spring suspensions, which the +05 SD have. The usual cause is the pan hard bar ends are worn/loose, however on my SD the tie rod ends wore out and mimicked death wobbble, the wheels could oscillate in certain situations. What you have done is slightly increase positive caster which increases the steering effort requried. The best thing you can do is keep the alighnment in Ford's specs and replace worn parts soon. The OEM joints do not have grease zerks, it is best to upgrade to aftermarket parts that are greasable.

    • @WeCanExploreIt
      @WeCanExploreIt  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You have to ask yourself WHY the rapid oscillation happens, that's the key. Worn linkages don't cause the oscillation, they give way to allow it to happen. Check out the other vid I did to explain the why.

    • @lhurst9550
      @lhurst9550 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WeCanExploreIt It is when you hit uneven bumps in the road. If the axle cannot move laterally the wobble does not, cannot, happen. An alignment is a whole lot of give and take and much of it is driver preference. There is zero issue with you getting your rides to handle like you want them to, however terminology matters. Just use a different term than 'death wobble', this is dw th-cam.com/video/ncTgYl7P_TE/w-d-xo.html

    • @vincentpate9144
      @vincentpate9144 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree 1000 percent.

    • @WeCanExploreIt
      @WeCanExploreIt  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@vincentpate9144 it's a caster issue at its core plain and simple. It's cool if you don't agree, lots of people don't agree which is why there are not really any videos saying what I'm saying. Still curious if you've ever tried adding caster when you saw the death wobble come in your shop. If you didn't, aren't you a little curious to see if that would have fixed it??

    • @vincentpate9144
      @vincentpate9144 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I challenge you to add negative Caster. Your opinion. I made a living for 25 yrs and retired and I never fixed it with an alignment

  • @arrowcarpentercontractor6127
    @arrowcarpentercontractor6127 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The real fix is junk that pos and buy the chevy or gmc.

  • @JohnNoble-gb1jb
    @JohnNoble-gb1jb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This guy is good