RebornOS - Arch Linux That's A Real Cinch To Install
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- Arch Linux is my go to distro but so many people are put off it because of the manual installation that's required. Enter RebornOS! It's an Arch
based distro that contains all the goodness of pacman and the AUR but its an absolute cinch to install.
Unlike other 'easy' Arch distros this one does not use calamares, but it's own installer called Cnchi.
The installer offers many options to customise the installation within a simple gui, and it works very well.
In my view this is a winner. A great distro that deserves more love than it seems to get.
I hope you enjoy the video :-)
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„You do what you want to do.“
For me, that is the beautiful thing about Linux in general. I‘ve distrohopped a lot, but mainly between Arch and its derivatives, as that is what I like the most. Couldn‘t care less for what of those distros someone uses, as long as it works for them. An Arch CLI install does not leave anyone with a superior os afterwards, compared to Arco, Endeavour or Reborn
Edit: Thank you for taking a look at all those distros and such, the OTB channel just keeps growing on me!
AMEN-- that CLI crap is for PROGRAMMERS and I don't come online to do programming.. :) (plus I'm 66 only ONE eye now and hate a screen full of TEXT- much less memorizing all that unrelated gobblety-gook that is SUPPOSE to represent something.. :)
You many have found my next install Steve. Been running Manjaro the past couple years, but lately been a little disillusioned with it. I've done Arch installs in the past, but honestly just been putting it off as they've never gone smoothly for me. Your review and endorsement may just have provided the answer. Much appreciated! Stay safe!
Cheers Rob, let me know how it goes
My first try with Arch was Antergos (which is where Reborn OS came from). Everything just worked. When the project ended I went to Vanilla Arch. I ran into some issues. Then, my 8-yar-old laptop died. Motherboard problem. I bought a new one last month, installed Endeavour OS. The things were not running OK. Some system freezing after suspend. I tried vanilla Arch once more. It didn't go Very well either. So, I went back to Fedora. Which is doing fine. Excellent review!
That looks to be a very nicely put together distro, quite impressed with it overall
the installer they are using is a fork of "Cnchi" which is Antergos's default installer
We have a Spanish-Guanacasteco word in Costa Rica that is "chunche" =thingamobber" It's what you ask for at the hardware store when you don't know the Spanish word. A chunche to put threads on a steel rod(die). That's a chunche to instalar Linux
I came very close to installing this a few days ago. Still might on my primary laptop. Thx for doing a review on it OTB.
Great video OTB! I am also an avid Arch Linux fan. Sudo pacman -Syyu Keep up the awesome job!
Hi OTB
Certainly an easy to get started version of Arch is something that exposes and meets a need in the Arch OS, as seen in the number of other distros that make the same claim.
This question is more about your liking for Arch than about today's review. Why exactly do you like Arch?
And secondly: Do you agree that it is probably the least friendly distro to new users, taking the distro, the installer, the online resources, and the official forums into account?
I will say a bit more about the experience I had before you comment.
At least a decade ago, possibly more like around the turn of the century I thought I would try Arch, and got nowhere, despite having previously got Gentoo running, and also installed Linux from Scratch to the point of having a usable CLI system. So I was and am far from a Linux newbie, nor that I am averse to command line: I progammed mainframes back when ASCII graphics was all there was, and had mastered IBM's TSO, Vax, as well as Unix before Unix became graphically oriented with X. It was just that I was just new to the Arch way of doing things. I got as far as installing openbox and X worked, and my mouse, but then got stuck and asked for help.
Turning to the Arch forums for guidance, I was effectively told to go away: if I needed to ask that kind of question then Arch is not for you and we are not going to help you. To be fair they were not deliberately offensive, but without being overtly rude they made it clear they regarded me as a nuisance rather than a welcome newcomer.
This was a shock to me, and to this day Arch remains the only distro where I have ever met that kind of response. In fact young this in now beings back that feeling of betrayal to find out that a free software project would be so elitist.
In contrast in the Gentoo forums I had found the online docs very straightforward, and when I had problems getting X to talk across the network the Gentoo forum ppl were friendly, encouraging, and helpful.
So my second question is whether you think I was just unlucky that month, whether you think the Arch culture was once like that but has since lost it's arrogant elitism, and so on
In particular do you think someone would have a similar experience today?
It was one or two decades ago. It might be time to give it another go. But regardless if how good the distro is, I personally would not want to be part of their project if you advise that they might well treat newcomers in the same way today.
As another white haired tech bloke, I am interested in any comments you have in my experience? Maybe in a reply to this comment, or perhaps it's worth a video in itself on Arch culture and how far (if?) their culture has changed over the years.
Arch is not really designed with the new user in mind and the forums are certainly not user friendly. In fact I won’t ever use them because of that type of elitism. However the endeavour and reborn forums are a different matter entirely. By the way I use arch:-) because I find it stable, I like a rolling release distro that stays close to the latest and greatest, the aur gives me huge choices and pacman is the fastest package manager I’ve come across so far
Yes the arch forum is infamous of their elitism. thats why there was antergos (now endeavourOS and this), which is basicaly vanilla arch with installer and newbie-friendly community.
manjaro is another popular arch based distro, but its not so vanilla. they have their own repository.
Great video, Bloke. Missed opportunity, "RebornOS - Arch Linux That's a Cnchi To Install" HAHAHA
I played around with this a few months ago. I think it is time to give this another chance, after watching your video.
Subbed! Just found you from your Void vid the other day. Thanks for covering these, helps a distro hopper such as I
Your welcome and thanks for the sub
EndeavourOS or RebornOS? Both are clearly Arch with a few ease of use packages added but it seems like the former gives more control on install whilst the latter has a more ironed out UI.
Antergos was my distro of choice before, to my horror, it suddenly finished. I preferred it to Manjaro because it was closer to pure Arch (along with the AUR) and never gave me any problems whatsoever.. ReBorn OS was pretty quick off the blocks after that ... I think maybe even ahead of Endeavour but don't hold me to that ... and I tried it some time ago. It was then clearly very much in development and it had teething problems which have obviously been well overcome ... and it now looks to be even more advanced than my former beloved Antergos!
However, I have the sad demise of Antergos to thank for finally forcing me to successfully install vanilla Arch from the command line. I had failed twice previously and my current Arch system is something I shall not change anytime soon, believe me. Nevertheless, ReBornOS is one I'll definitely give a go on a VM later ... so thanks once again for the heads-up, OTB!
Never impreased that much by linux distro, love it highly recomended
Nice and clean distro, thank you OTB. My problem with Lbry/Odisee is that buffering of video from time to time even though I have 125 Mbps up and down, makes for a poor viewing here in South Africa.
I know, I get that issue sometimes as well
The "stable" in other distros means "unchanged", because a server needs an unchanged environment.
Glad to see video is finally here :)
been looking for another flavor of arch that i like. I may try this as I've had issues with the last few mint variables that I've used. So I think I'm ready to go back to arch. I did have antergos years ago. And even played with Manjaro. I do like this one though.
Good video! I need a new os because my long time favorite is ending. I must have blinked when you covered graphic drivers. Does nvidia (proprietary) install automatically during install, or do you install it from the package manager after installing the os?
Yes you can select from the installer or else after install open terminal and do : sudo pacman -S nvidia nvidia-settings And then reboot.
@@DCM777. Ok, thanks!
EXCELLENT video Steve!! I heard about rebornos but now this looks like at lest for me THE Arch distro to use. The installer reminds me of the opensuse installer in that it has valuable options for the user. I'm using Debian and opensuse leap on two of my 12 year old desktops with all of the DE's from both installers.works great. I'll have to install rebornos to an external HD to use it.
Thanks again Steve for your valuable channel and the relaxing way you teach. Really appreciate it!!😀
Thanks mate, comments very much appreciated
I tried installing a couple of times a few different ways a bit ago. Thy must have fixed some things since the additional installs failed every time while the desktop and other core items worked. I actually chatted with a dev, and the big reason I stayed away was that their Pantheon is a hybrid with Cinnamon and doesn't work anyways. Last time I looked, it wasn't even on their website as the Elementary team doesn't support it as a standalone desktop. Any of the hacks to get it working have been disasters including Reborn.
I wish Black Arch Linux would have the same beautiful UI as Reborn OS does
Hi. I have learned many from your video. I want to know, what's the most stable Arch-based Linux? I want to install an Arch-based distro on my desktop, but I often leave my home for about 1~2 months, so I need the most stable Arch-based distro or distro using Pacman. Thank you.
Sorry but Arch won't last 1-2 months without updates, its just the nature of a rolling release
Hey man I love the channel! Great work!
Cheers
@@OldTechBloke Are you still window manager hopping or have you settled in on something? I am mostly on qtile these days but I still like to tinker
The easy way to install Arch. Very smooth.
I love the fact you can run anbox on it... totally going to try it out!
Never used it but let us know how well it works
@@OldTechBloke for sure!! Feedback please.
It comes with Garuda too, not tried it yet but I love Garuda distro that is Arch using the Zen kernel
Isn't Cnchi the old Antergos installer? I had a feeling it was "separate" enough of a project to not be affected by that distro's demise.
Yes, it did look familiar!
Nice video, And I agree, im not sure why this is not as popular as EndevourOS, Reborn seems to me be for me the better of the two which has derived from Antergos. I wish they changed there budgie package list up, I think they are installing gnome and budgie packages, if they took the time to selected the correct and needed packages(no gnome meta package) they can get budgie running with a boot up ram usage of 470mb. I have done multiple arch installs with budgie and achieved this with selective packages that are needed to run budgie, so its very possible with care taken on package selection. rant finished lol
Think I may give this a spin after my recent pain with Manjaro on the new laptop.
Yes, , RebornOS is a nice Arch distro. It seems to be a 'working-progress', but it's getting better and better - I hope a distro crossed between Garuda + Reborn gets developed. One to look out for...???
I used Antergos, and it was great. Always used their Openbox version.
love that new background...
It is an adapted version of the Antergos installer.
something strange is going on with their website and you can't even download it today. I found a link to download it on sourcefourge. I hope the issue is fixed soon.
Yeah I agree I use Brave and it told me to to go back because it wasn't safe it could be there server.
Nice! Has a lot of cool tools and the installers was fantastic.
"Spoiler Alert, I like it!" Wow I thought the video was over... Lol
I could see me using this too but with Cinnamon. :-)
But I do agree that Pamac is a mix bag. It is a great search tool.
Thanks for the video OTB and Cheers!
LLAP
Thanks again Bruce
May be a dumb question-- but CAN YOU INSTALL MORe THAN ONE DE on this and switch between them as desired????
Arch distros are OK but I'm now rather stuck on Open Mandriva 4.2. It's got a slick desktop, the standard kde theming is really nice.
Thanks OTB. Unfortunately both in Vivaldi and Librewolf I get a lot of messages about their SSL certificate. Will be OK, but a bad UX. Lucky I still had an iso lying around ;-) If you want a lot of options I still prefer Arcolinux.
OTB,
I think the lamp in the background is too bright.
Maybe just put a candle in the corner
or hang a transparent cloth or thin pale curtain
Yes I agree, on it this week :-)
nice review, as usual ..
PS: Nice hat, ...much better :D
ONE of the "DE" options is also OPEN BOX.. which I'm starting to like!!!! (thanks to YOU and one of your reviews..) As long as it's NOT gnome.. I'll watch. I just HATE gnome-- that's JUST ME and my preference-- NOTHING wrong wiht the software and I'm NOT knocking it for others..!!
Every time I attempt to install Reborn the Cnchi always reports it is not ready - most puzzling. Any ideas anyone?
Nice one OTB. This desktop on the Live USB looks like budgie.
Literally not a single download link working on their page.
Same looking all over for a DL, can't find one. Doesn't instill confidence!
@@eggomanic found it on Source forge
thanx for the video. Nice to follow. Especially the excourse with gparted and efi/boot7gpt was usefull! Sometimes i wish to have more facts like x11/wayland etc. In the case of #arcolinux it would have been nice to get more informations about the absolute fantastic knwledge base (arcolinux.com) like concept of the project with video tutorials, links a.s.o. The meaning of the the different flavours could have been "touched". NEVERTHELESS super video for the comunity!
Being put off by installing Arch manually? Crazy people! :p
If you don't want to do it, fine. It is good that there are distros which make it a bit more low-threshold. But it is not difficult, really. Also eventually you will need to get your hands 'dirty' a little bit, just keeping real. You are not obligated to do a manual arch-install but it will make the experience of using Arch better if you are able to do it, just to learn some of the basic things of a Linux install.
I tend to agree Peter
Did you ever try to install ezarch linux distro from Eznix?
Yes, I’ve used his script a few times
This hurts for the reasoning I took so long to install arch manually.....
Mostly have had bad experiences with Arch, though I like to try an archbased distro once in a while, but there is always an update that breaks things, or simply doesn't complete. Debian base is the way to go for me.
Nonsense.
How to I enable hotspot on linuxmint 20.1 ???
do you think this is a better than say Arco Linux?
Personal preference but I prefer it because arco is more customised and I prefer a vanilla look and feel that I can tweak myself
@@OldTechBloke thanks
My problem here is a Turtle going UPHILL on an icey walk moves faster than my Internet service... I could write it out in paper and ink , wrap it around a rock and throw it and get my requests in faster for services.. ha.
excellent video again, thank you, i would have said something on the FB group, i am in FB jail again.
Oh dear mate
@@OldTechBloke it happens, lol i am a repeat offender to fb jail.
@@darrenclift6704 you must be a riot at parties
@@IcarianHeights when i was younger i was lol I tend to say what is on my mind regardless who's feelers it hurts lol
Vanilla arch install is great for people who dont value their time.
Systemd?
Yes
Rest in peace
Have a run at Hefftor linux young fellow ;-)
Just downloaded it :-)
I do hope you go with something OTHER than that freaking gnome crap-- sick of seeing that-- can't STAND gnome-- and they do have 10 DE's available.. do KDE or something- maybe OPEN BOX.....I LIKE your reviews-- you're slow enough that it's easy to catch and keep up with and you're thorough.. too many RUSH through quickly and zip from one thing to another and I have NO idea what they've done.. much less understood it.. :) aS to the CLI-- that's CRAP-- it's for PROGRAMMERS and I'm NOT a programmer. It's NEITHER more efficient OR fast.. just NOT.. no matter what the bald keybanging MORONS say.. I'm old- and not the sharpest tool in the shed-- so don't WANT to memorize a bunch of unrelated letters and codes to do anything-- that's just STUPID-- plus I have ONE eye and it's not that hot- so a page full of plain text is BS when it could be so SMOOTHE using the beautifully made guis...