Endeavour OS - The Only Arch Linux Distro You Will Ever Need
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ม.ค. 2022
- Endeavour OS, in my opinion, is the best Arch distro that currently exists. I'm biased of course, but my opinion is based on 14 month of continuous use and zero problems.
In fact Endeavour OS has helped change my mind about how suitable Arch systems are for brand new users, and I would now say that, whatever your level of skill or experience, the chances are you will get on great with Endeavour.
Update it once a week, use the wiki and friendly community to increase your knowledge, and customise it to suit yourself.
This video is a showcase of Endeavour's latest release, which I can find nothing to criticise.
In summary, what are you waiting for? Just install Endeavour and stop hopping :-)
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EndeavourOS is the only recommendation I give for Arch based distros, even over my own (thanks for the shout-out!). My own project is good for the tinkerer if you want to build your own personal ISO, but I don't provide all the perks that come with EndeavourOS. EOS provides tons of docs and a community, which makes all the difference when deciding on what to recommend. Cool video, thanks. 😀
Thanks mate, hope you’re doing well and all the best for the new year
Well said and I agree 100%... :-)
LLAP
Eznix, I begin school in March and one day aspire to be able to do the things that you have done for the FOSS community. Keep up the great work
i do not recommend systemD distros...
@@RHTORAS if it's all you've ever known ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You're the sort of bloke that would own an old Triumph TR6 or sn old MG.
Endeavour OS is probably the best arch based distro, and it makes me happy to see it thrive.
You can also just type "yay" and it'll update both the normal packages and AUR packages, no need to do the 2 commands separately or to add extra flags :-)
The first two commands === yay ?
@@JMRVRGS Yes, at 28:37
Oh my God thank you I spent all morning trying to install vanilla arch but I fucked my partitions up right out the gate and it was just a mess. You're a gentleman and a scholar.
Thanks for the advice, I just made a new machine for my home lab and installed Endeavor OS, really happy so far.
I am the definition of a serial distro hopper and I absolutely loved endeavor and everything it stood for. I'm definitely looking towards giving it a second run with openbox. I've been stuck cycling between mabox, Archcraft and axyl the last few months so I'm due for a change. Thank you again for another great video OTB! One day I'm going to find that magical distro, or make my own when I gain the knowledge lol
Great video. This is a distro that I have been watching lately. Currently I am running Artix and have everything set up the way I like and haven't felt like changing anything at the moment. If I every feel like doing so this will probably be the distro that I install next. Keep up the good work. I really enjoy your videos.
Arco is my favorite, I've had about the same experience with it as you have with EndeavourOS.
As a Ubuntu user, I tried several distros, setting on debían and Arch Linux. After testing Manjaro, I realised by using it, how powerful and elegant Arch Linux is! I read a little and stumbled upon a nice compromise between ease of installation and flexibility and Endeavour OS was the choice. After reading the tutorials I was installing from source in no time, getting all the features of other distros installed and learning more about Linux than ever before. Even offline install is the fastest option for installation as my wireless card was detected, get my desktop of choice later and be ready to go. Thank you for your video as my conclusion was the same as yours. Endeavour OS is now my daily driver and my journey through Linux. Take care.
The only problem with vanilla Arch is not everyone has the time to do the setup as you stated. It all comes down to what works for your work flow.
I just found your channel and i love it, great content ! I think i will give this distro a try, i've been distro hopping a lot (Mint, Arch, Fedora, PopOS, Manjaro, now Arch again)
Endeavour plus plasma has been my main setup for several months now. My experience has been excellent with no issues, plasma has behaved perfectly not like on Neon or Kubuntu. The community and plentiful documents are excellent.
Unfortunately, powerdevil broke for me today. Things are breaking now regularly on plasma
It is great to see that you enjoy creating this content. Please let me thank you for your efforts, since i also like trying to use this distro and get a lot of satisfaction from it.
wishing you good health and happiness in times to come, with my thanks and appreciation for your efforts, Nick C.
Melbourne, Australia.
Cheers Nick
I tried ALG Arch Linux Gui..i really like it alot..runs quick and stable on my hardware..and ive tried ALOT of distros
Installed EndeavourOS about two days ago. So far I'm loving it. I replaced the Xfce desktop with my own AwesomeWM config.
I can tell you are a caring and wonderful person because you keep your Bike Indoors... Awesome..
Looks great indeed, I shall be checking this out soon. Waiting on a new gaming system and then I'll migrate my Ryzen desktop to Linux full-time. :)
Looking forwards to a new Slackware release. That wasn't yesterday, ha! It was what got me started in the early 90s, and I ran it for many years.
Agreed OTB, thanks for the review.
So impressed, I wiped Opensuse on my laptop and installed Endeavour with Cinnamon. Seems impressive. Thanks for the info...PS, love the bike.
I was really impressed with the community Openbox version of Endeavour. Im a bit of a "ram usage fetishist" and have ran XFCE on various distributions because it felt like the most basic usable desktop that I could have, anything else was very difficult. However, Openbox + tint2 on Endeavour has been a dream to run and saves a bit of ram ;).
I tried EndeavourOS on a laptop, not long after it first came out. No issues whatsoever, as I recall. I didn't stay with it, but that was not in any way due to the distro's performance. I have lingering doubts about recommending it to any and all first-time Linux users. But were the person motivated and knew how to do a bit of research should trouble hit, I would have no qualms. Happy New Year!
thank you, this was very instructive
I haven't seen the video but I'm going to say a definitely yes to EndeavourOS. I'm using it as my daily driver for the last 4 months and it's the best pain free Arch experience I ever had and I was using Manjaro before.
I've been using Silent Robot's Salient Arch for over 2 years now. Other than an issue with a AMD Vulkan update (which I corrected by downgrading to the previous version), it's been rock solid.
Hi, I have EndeavourOs in one of my laptops with a XFCE DE.... awesome... no problems at all...but, when I discover Archlabs I found out what I was looking for... pure Arch you can rice as you want... I have it running with plasma, xfce, dwm, i3 in other hardware and it is perfect... this is personal preference and the freedom to chose... Endeavour, Archlabs and Arco Linus are simply great... I used Manjaro KDE for the last 3 years but it is eating my RAM and this is the reason why I changed to Endeavour and Archlabs... in Archlabs, plasma starts with 425 MG of RAM with all the applications I need... Manjaro with 865MG... great work my friend.
Giving it a try based on your great review.
Hi! Thanks for the video. I really enjoyed it. I've been running Endeavour for week now. I also have Manjaro on my other computer. When you talk about maintenance of a Arch system, you really should mention pacdiffs too. Endeavour seems to have a nice little tool for the job. I haven't tested it yet, because havent' got any pacdiff files yet. But on my Manjaro machine I run pacdiff -o command few times a year. Compare pacdiff files with meld, make some changes if needed. And then delete .pacdiff files.
Maybe you should make a video for this too.
Cheers!
I can only agree, this is THE Arch distro of them all. Never problem, it just work.
People often claim rolling is unstable. but as a long-time Arch user I cannot confirm this.
I've got to say : your fit is absolutely fire
I completely agree with you @OTB
I run Endeavour on my Lenovo X230 with no problems,vanilla Arch on my Dell Inspiron and Manjaro on my desktop, all run fine with no problems at all. I agree about Arch being stable as I have not had any hassles at all.
thanx 4 the totourial
u really encouraged me to try iy
Before I installed vanilla Arch the now defunct Antergos was my distro of choice. I ran it alongside Manjaro but liked the idea that Antergos was basically pure Arch made easy to install and I never had a moment's problem with it.
I understand Endeavour was founded by a few of the old Antergos team so I'm delighted to learn the high standards have clearly been maintained and the OS made even more attractive.
I'm fascinated with Void at the moment but will give Endeavour a run soon. Also look forward to a Slackware vid when possible, OTB. Gentoo will be my final big challenge!
Endeavour was not founded by any team member of Antergos of which there were only two. It was spawned by a few capable people of the already existing Antergos community, after the Antergos team closed shop (nothing evil, just life).
Also Antergos had a lot of problems EOS doesn't have, and contrary to your belief, EOS is the more Vanilla one! I know, I was on Antergos for a few years before it's developers shut it down, and in the community making suggestions submitting graphics, voting on methods and features... Lots of people were involved and a few forks of Antergos made, but all of those added to much and took more specific routs, like bias to a specific DE, preinstalled apps... EOS came from all of those who didn't want to make a distro as such and pile on stuff, but keeping it open and "Do as YOU wish" and why I and others jumped on board.
Others made Antergos forks to "make it more like Windows"... and crap like that, and become authoritarian leaders and what not. The ones who wanted that had their space, where they could argue and fight about it, and split into factions, which they did. Where are their distro's now?
EndeavourOS aimed to be even more vanilla Arch, but with more user selectable options than Antergos, and easier by having a more comprehensive and easy to use installer that actually works, and easier access to those options. On that note the maintenance AKA Welcome app, is in the same vein, it just puts a bunch of maintenance tasks in one neat place, and the ability to use a GUI to use it. It's mainly just tiny scripts under the hood. The EOS repo is only for EOS specific stuff, mainly scripts to fix stuff, like NVIDIA tweaks... and all great things to have, all system related but the fan made wallpapers and the like, no gimmickry. You use the Arch repo for software, and the AUR if you dig, and install anything you like.
Of course if you install a DE, you will have apps bundled with those as those too are vanilla as supplied by their makers. If you want, you can even omit a DE or WM on install, and you can also change the install script further if you wish.
i never tried endeavour, i think it never seemed to be to much of a challenge to learn something new from it, so i basically skipped it, but seeing it now , it could actually become my go-to-OS for my PC that i run win at the moment at home where i only play some games and don't tinker arround that much, i really like the little helper on the welcome screen and the general approach of it
Well all I can say I agree totally with what you said! I'm good with being biased, I see nothing wrong when your right... :-P
It's always good to keep Mrs OTB happy. It keeps Mr OTB healthy... :-) Besides I use to keep my 750 Suzuki in my living room back in my bachelor days... :-)
Thanks and good to see ya in 2022!
LLAP
Cheers Bruce 😁
Awesome video!
I have to agree with you because I'm living the dream.
I'll give it a try.
Excellent vid.
I actually enjoyed the look of the themed Xfce right from the start... so just kept it that way, no need to mess around except for changing the wallpaper.
I have only used Manjaro as an Arch distro at this point. I tried Peppermint on an old laptop, but it was running so slow I replaced it with Mint XFCE and it was better. Otherwise I have been an Ubuntu and Mint guy until a few weeks ago. Mint has been my distro of choice. It just works.
So far Manjaro has been good thus far, but I've had a few hiccups with the rolling kernel and have had less hiccups running the LTS kernel on Manjaro. I have been using the real time kernel because I am doing some audio work in Ardour.
Having a fair amount of experience with Linux now, I'm tempted to do a proper Arch install at this point just to learn Linux better.
I was never a distro hopper because I just wanted something that worked and ran easily.
Manjaro seems to be doing that for me right now.
Truth be known: I am a fanboy of Arcolinux and love KDE Plasma. So I thought, why not combine both of them? Exchanged Arco KDE for Endeavour but took along Arco's repos. Easy to do with Arcolinux Spices. Also, then was able to install Arco's Tweak Tool which allowed easy install of leftwm and bspwm. Thanks for the video. It inspired me to experiment!
You’re welcome. I run dwm and leftwm on my endeavour
I'll have to try this once I get time would like to have a Linux desktop over windows. ☺️
I had this laptops since 2014. Installed arch when I got and and its still going. But its time to get a new system, so thinking about trying something easier to setup. :)
_Endevours OS, POP OS and Fedora are the best distros in Linux right now as in 2021_
Soon or later, waiting for a Subgraph Os review too ;)
Man I like your style! I have two sport bikes in my front home office. A GSXR750 and a new CBR1000Rr. Doesn't everyone? Thanks for the great review and recommendation. I'm looking for a suitable windows 11 killer and I think I found one. Then if I need to have a windows app I'll run Windows in a virtual machine as a client. My computer is my computer microsoft, thank you very much!
I love Endeavoros. The fact that it's so close to vanilla Arch but has some nice tweaks like the i3 config and theming. I also like that yay comes pre installed.
You say that you can't be bothered with the arch way install. Have you tried the install script that comes with the iso? It saves a lot of time and you still get vanilla Arch.
Thanks for a great video!
Yep tried it 😁
Very good video 👍
OTB!!! Thanks for the Alias's trick! I guess I am just too freaking young and still a noob at 57! (
OTB great vid
I've been using Linux on my laptop I take to work (retail shop with a very low volume of customers) quite a bit and installed and played with a lot of different distros on bare metal as I have spare drives. I too have settled on using EndeavourOS while I really suss out how to configure things post install in a virtual machine with arch. Regarding Endeavour and really any linux distro I'd love to see a video of maybe how to "harden" your fresh installs. I see a lot of server hardening videos with pertinent information but never really found one that was customized for someone using it with some type of desktop environment or WM. I'm learning and am at the stage where I realize how easy it is to get into my raspberry pi and it made me really see a lot of potential holes or risks but im still just unsure because I don't really know the end to end steps to secure myself to be in public or even at home. Sorry maybe I'm just paranoid because I'm still a Linux noob and the security procedures are different switching from windows. Like making another user for myself. Closing ports etc. I just dont know.
Yawn
One of the best. I agree.
However, some issues with community editions on install.
My starting point with Arch was on Manjaro and the 6 months I used it, it has been nothing but issues. Switched over to EndeavourOS in early 2020 and never looked back, really stable and Arch was surprisingly easy to pick up.
My starting point with Arch was with Antergos. It had it's issues but nothing I couldn't deal with. I eventually switched to Manjaro right before the Antergos project shut down. I've never had any problems with Manjaro, but I'm still curious about Endeavor since I have a history with it's predecessor.
The Arch type of system is what I prefer. Bleeding edge software....yet I still want usable and stable. Bleeding edge for Video and camera production...stuff.
I have to say Artix and mainly archbased distros+Calamares are more friendly than Ubuntu and Debian/Devuan distros. You just have to learn how to use the wiki but even without this, the support can be found everywhere these days.
Is Artix stable?
So I currently run Linux mint on my main pc which has been rock solid but i have been tempted to move over to an arch based system and endeavourOS is the top of the list. I tried it on a VM which my main complaint is i like a visual package manager but pacseek literally fixes that issue its so nice.
Arch has now an installer, so you can now officially install Arch the non-Arch way.
For me Endeavour OS is an fancy Arch installer.
Still think that everyone that is going to use Arch (or Arch-based) should install Arch the (old) Arch-way once or twice.
It is more time-consuming but you get more knowledge about your system.
But now I am running Endeavour OS on my main system, and besides a few handy tools (And the ease of using Nvidia-drivers) It is Arch.
For Windows users I can recommend to install Arch the Arch-way for at least 100 times if your plan is to really study the roots, until stuff starts making sense to you and it will - for some it happens quicker obviously as we all are not equal in intelligence. Those who only have 1 laptop (from my experience, specifically an laptop) and no other main computers, are going to learn the quickest :) that's how it happened with me! However these days I do have an desktop with Arch in addition to my old laptop where I originally learned it on. There is no going back to Windows for me for every day use.
However, I am making an exception: if there is an big game release that I don't want to miss (such as Diablo 4 in 2023) then sure I'll install Windows for a month or until it becomes playable via Lutris (: the launch of a big game release is very important to me. I game on my linux machine all the time, and I already know that D4 will not likely be available from first moment on linux + I don't want to deal with any artifacts, glitches and such on the launch day in addition to Blizzard servers being down on their every release xD I hope this makes sense why I'd install Windows for a specific purpose, even though I've been using Arch now for 5 years.
after trying manjaro ,i endeavour feels more stable , only things im going to add is synaptic package manager and snaps
Currently I use Manjero on a Raspberry pi but I would like to try Endeavour (Just 'cause I like the TV program...Smiles here)
Waiting for the Slackware release here too
currently running fedora37 and really tempted to install Endeavour instead
Not tried it yet but I've been the same with manjaro. Installed it about 2 years ago as my main OS and haven't had any issues.
My understanding is endeavour has a more vanilla KDE setup
Yes, but all the bells and whistles are there, and you can tweak it to the max. I like it that way: My way!
You have a choice of like 7 DE's and a few WM's on install, and I don't think they messed with any of them. They come as supplied from their makers, and the only embellishment you get are EOS wallpapers and color scheme where applicable.
1.: Love the bike. 2.Have you got any good and easy way to use Linux to draw or paint/color pictures for experiments for paintings? Most computer stuff is based on keyboard input. I'm looking for something that makes drawing on the screen (touch type) that can be easily reproduced. Great work on your part.
I don’t personally use those sort of programmes as I have zero artitistic skills, but my son uses krita and gimp with a Wacom tablet
I installed this OS on a dual core CPU with 4GB of RAM and it works like crazy.
I nudged my colleague into using Endeavour, it works well except for stuttering when he connects to multiple monitors
Gonna miss you mate; Rest In Peace.
Did he died?
This video makes me want to check this out after years of Debian. One question: is there a downside to using Pamac cli instead of Pacman? (just asking because its syntax reads much like apt)
I wouldn’t use the pamac gui for anything except checking for updates. I’m sure the cli version is fine though, but why not just use Pacman
Done basic arch installs the arch way years back. When i definatly switched to linux from windows a few weeks back i just installed Endeavour, slapped pamac onit and am sailing off basicly. Not sure wy they are opposed to giving the option to install pamac but i guess they want to keep it as basic as possible. Reason i didnt go for Manjaro was i read about some drama there and the fact that its not 100% vanilla arch. Thats ofcouse an ingredient for breaking it easily when using AUR. Not pretending to be a Linux nerd at all but it does help if you know your way around.
A new Slackware might be coming soon? I had read it was probably going to be this year but did not think it would be so soon.
The first thing i do is install Pamac and is perfect.
Hello people. Could you give me a tip on wether I wouldn't regret starting off with Endeavour instead of Manjaro as the first Arch distro as a newbie Linux user? I kept reading/hearing that Manjaro is the beginner friendly Arch distro, and Endeavour's tagline - "A terminal-centric distro" - kind of suggests the opposite. But is the beginner friendliness really considerably different? Because if not, I would be more into Endeavour based on OTB's first couple of thoughts in this video.
I don’t personally think Endeavour is any more difficult than Manjaro. It will encourage you to use the terminal more perhaps, but in the long run that is a good thing.
@@OldTechBloke Well I just might give my first go at Arch with that instead of Manjaro then, seeing as you had experience with both. (I'm not explicitly against the terminal btw., and I know it is ultimately unavoidable, I'm just afraid I would be much more lost in the beginning when I do not know close to any command and parameters I would need for a task/problem. But if one distro doesn't offer more readable, easier to find aid/clues in this regard, then it should be ok.) Thanks.
I used Q4OS on my notebook intel atom 1.6 ghz 2 GB RAM but changed to antiX Linux, better i think.
On My laptop HP Pavillion 2.00 ghz dual-core 4 GB RAM i have dual boot windows 8.1/Manjaro Linux. I'm happy with manjaro, i think it's great! Do you think manjaro is a good arch based distro OTB?
Manjaro is fine but I personally prefer to use the standard arch repos and I’ve never had an issue
How many processes running after install?
Def the best arch spin, is that a bonnie or RE in the back staying warm?
An RE
@@OldTechBloke Awesome choice super tempted to get one
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R.I.P OTB Steve!!
I tried EneavourOS on a LiveUSB on HP 250 G8, it does not detect the WiFi (RTL8822CE) :-(
I can't help but notice that motorbike behind you. Is that a Royal Enfield Interceptor?
It is 😀
I like EndeavourOS but couldn’t get my Fenvi t919 Wi-Fi card to work. Manjaro is the only Arch based distro that works with my setup without issues.
Update: After hours of trial and error I got the fenvi card to work. Removed broadcom-wl-dkms. installed b43-firmware & b43-fwcutter.also installed pamac. Very good OS. sticking with Manjaro for now 🙂
I wonder what you actually need that Endeavor has and Manjaro hasn't? That wasn't really explained (other than you think they do some testing for no reason whatsoever). I assume you need faster release cycle for some packages and I wonder what they lag with that makes it unsuitable. I use manjaro and arch and I don't feel absolutely any difference between them to be honest, after installation.
I just prefer to stay as close to arch as possible
Agree. I use Manjaro before and it is good. As for close to Arch you can switch branch when you like. It is Arch. Most of the time I do not switch branch to Arch. Sit there and wait is a good approach for me.
Endeavour OS so far has been the only Distro that could not run my 4k Monitor at its full resolution out of the box.
As a purist, the best Arch distro is Arch, as an Arch user myself I agree, Endeavour just works. I dislike Manjaro simply because they deviate to far away from Vanilla for my liking.
The only arch distro I'll ever need is arch
Slackware 15 rc3 just came out. Think it's pretty much the same as 15 rc2. But what do I know.
I’m waiting for the final release
20:06 What's the difference between all these Display Managers?
Too big a question for a comments section
@@OldTechBloke Can you try and summarise it?
Add me to the club that had not a single issue for 12+ months of use with EndeavourOS!
Endeavour OS did not work on my laptop no wireless drivers could not get on the internet
You are owner of interceptor 650. I own classic 350.❤
Idk, the endeavour net installer crashed on me twice and it broke after 2 weeks. How does one mantain an arch system?
Can’t say that’s ever happened to me
Bad luck i guess. Im sticking to fedora and everything has gone great
@@OldTechBloke I take my words back. That happened because i didn't set the mirrors, and it's the only thing that runs gnome smoothly for me. Thanks!
is that RE Interceptor behind you sir?
Certainly is 😁
@@OldTechBloke respect 🤝
if that is how you maintain it, why not make it into 1 automatically run script?
I could easily do that, but it hardly seems worth it
I was kinda expecting that you would open all the AUR apps and show how they can be installed... but it didn't happen. You can tell I am an Arch virgin...
Nobara and Manjaro were my absolute favorite's until Endeavour.
I started to use Endeavour OS because my plain Arch for me was so unstable and I wasn't able to get LTS kernel working properly, but Endeavour is so much more stable then regular Arch for me.
Sir Make a video on ArcoLinux
Is that an Enfield in the background?
Yes an interceptor
@@OldTechBloke A man after my own heart.
At the start of this video you raise the spectre of the 'New Linux User'. I often wonder just who these people are, what their background is and why have they decided to switch to Linux. Does anyone really know the demographics of new users ? I started using Linux about 3 years ago because I had an old laptop and no other computer. I had dabbled in desktop Linux as long ago as the late 1990s (remember those magazines with cover disc distros ?) and I had some experience of Linux (or Unix ) based servers. I don't actually know any other Linux users so, apart from TH-cam, I am at a loss to know exactly who uses desktop Linux.
I did a video about who are Linux users some time ago. Just my opinions of course but I tend to feel it appeals in general to the more technically user. I used to belong to a LUG and that was certainly correct with the users I met
I am new to Linux, and an old-school geek. I have used Windows since the day of Windows 95. I did try Zorin 9 as having an option, but it was not as good back then. I dual boot Zorin 16 Pro with Windows 10 Pro. I would drop Windows, but I have to have Office 365 for school, and also trying to transition to a career in Help Desk/IT Support. Overall, my Zorin 16 does better than Windows 10.
@@OldTechBloke I was thinking specifically about the profile of a new user. I often wonder where the new recruits are coming from or is it just existing users distro hopping (a waste of time for an experienced user but we have all done it).
The best arch for beginners is Garuda. Hands down!