PVP Gameplay Assessment - The War Within

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
  • A review of how the gameplay of PVP has been progressing in The War Within beta.
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  • @Kurnhelios
    @Kurnhelios 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Is this a discussion on the state of PvP moving into TWW or a vod review of your own resto gameplay, or both?

  • @DeifesFeia
    @DeifesFeia 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    Rework enhancement

    • @nebojsadjordjevic6768
      @nebojsadjordjevic6768 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      PROPERLY

    • @mrbojangles6156
      @mrbojangles6156 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@DeifesFeia blasphemy!

    • @angrygun7826
      @angrygun7826 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yeah as long as its not some corny 1 shot ranged melee with absurd self healing

    • @keyanmoore916
      @keyanmoore916 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm mad ele has no access to totemic build it would be nice to have ele do damage with totems as well. Enh seems to have some interesting combos already

    • @frieren848
      @frieren848 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      BRING BACK 2H ENHANCEMENT ONE SHOT TF CRITS BEAVIS STYLE!!

  • @zugdigitalx
    @zugdigitalx 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    So they made resto druid a better disc priest....lol...

    • @g.henriquecosta983
      @g.henriquecosta983 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      No. Thats just beta numbers. Paladin and monk already does a lot damage and healing at the same time. Do you even play wow?

    • @OGEETOMO
      @OGEETOMO 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@g.henriquecosta983@g.henriquecosta983 Yeah, nah, that's actually what this looks like. They just made Resto Druid into a better Disc priest with AI healing.

    • @clauslarsen8971
      @clauslarsen8971 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@g.henriquecosta983yes, in melee...

  • @zhaejaro2069
    @zhaejaro2069 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Surv hunter is the most fun spec I have ever played its in a really good spot heading into TWW

    • @Venoc1986
      @Venoc1986 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Been a Surv Main for a decade. Have you done any PVP on Beta yet?

    • @zhaejaro2069
      @zhaejaro2069 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Venoc1986 yeah that was actually me in the video I have played around 120 rounds of shuffle

    • @Venoc1986
      @Venoc1986 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zhaejaro2069 Nice!!! I seriously can't wait to play with the new talents.

    • @zhaejaro2069
      @zhaejaro2069 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Venoc1986 Yeah its has its good side and bad its really fun but there are a few things that are super annoying

    • @Venoc1986
      @Venoc1986 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zhaejaro2069 What things annoy you?

  • @DanielJohnson-ns9ch
    @DanielJohnson-ns9ch 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    where do you find best builds etc Supa?

  • @nickp090491
    @nickp090491 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No moonkin form? Does this mean I won't be able to flap on a tank in rbgs?

  • @cappm4201
    @cappm4201 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What about rated solo BG? Are you testing that system?

  • @THE_GRIMDAWG
    @THE_GRIMDAWG 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great video bud as always

  • @aura3393
    @aura3393 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    i hope with all my heart that the gameplay is a little bit slower than DF, i don't find it too fun, if people just get 1 shot, and I have no time to heal the damage done

  • @lucasskywalkercortez4533
    @lucasskywalkercortez4533 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you play enhance in ss

  • @jeff230394
    @jeff230394 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Resto druids should not be able to spam dmg and that do enough healing. It should be risk and reward

    • @hotchowder
      @hotchowder 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah if healers are putting out too much damage its going to be a shit show.

    • @HlghV0LTag3
      @HlghV0LTag3 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm ok with healers doing damage, IF hybrid healing gets buffed. Bring back boomie/ feral/ enha/ ele/ ret healing back n we good (SP alrdy doing well)

  • @mrbojangles6156
    @mrbojangles6156 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Druid of the claw is a cleave build for pve in my eyes. If you aren’t playing wildstalker in arenas you are crazy

    • @krisumusic
      @krisumusic 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Agreed, Claw feels horrible. Wildstalker is "boring" but very strong for bleeds so it will like Shadowlands necrolord playstyle :)

    • @mrbojangles6156
      @mrbojangles6156 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@krisumusic combine it with the self healing and kite ability feral has and it’s gonna be good

    • @krisumusic
      @krisumusic 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @mrbojangles6156 yea that feels very strong! But I also love both ww and arms in the beta so it's gonna be a hard choice 🥲

  • @derrickhead
    @derrickhead 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yea I 100 percent agree I rather everyone be strong then slow mo I wanna see some ret solo q content tho

  • @deovolente1776
    @deovolente1776 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I hate how they are trying to turn healers into dps. I would rather just play a dps then.

  • @AliveElement1122
    @AliveElement1122 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can we get a single expansion without unga bunga mdps being an absolute freakin menace

  • @lesguyse
    @lesguyse 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So, previously, my wife and I had to abandon do regular BGSs. Seemed like all we ever played against were these professional players teamed up with every possible ADDON bristling like a battleship. They became a tremendous turnoff as no one enjoys literally getting farmed like domestic catfish. We found some fun and successes doing the blitz's as a team providing one of us played a healer. All sound familiar? My question now is does this change take away that last bastion of fun for us? Sounds like the new blitz will force everyone to Q solo. BTW, if Blizzard ever came out with a game modality called WOW- Noaddon we'd be all over that.

    • @ericmorlitz1689
      @ericmorlitz1689 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yes, bliz will most likely be soloque. maybe they will change it but i dont think so since u get an unfair advantage against anyone who isnt playing with a friend. and i know what u mean about the addons, it truly sucks but as long as theyre aviable ppl will abuse them and so should u if you are trying to play on the same field of knowledge as everyone else. u dont need a lot. best of luck to u guys

  • @hessamhedayati3488
    @hessamhedayati3488 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    why would anyone play disc now?

  • @ndi88
    @ndi88 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This dps healers concept seems aweful idea. But m+ opinion matters boys

  • @Coheed420
    @Coheed420 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    just so glad i won't have to do any more arenas with the solo rbgs coming

  • @derkaman123123
    @derkaman123123 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sucks that one hero talent will obviously be better even if less thematic, and everyone will just play the meta :(

  • @Avo7977
    @Avo7977 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    How are Havoc looking in TWW PvP?

    • @krisumusic
      @krisumusic 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Seems good, I got completely wrecked by a havoc on beta. They seemed tanky too. They got 2 vengeful retreats which I imagine people will be sad about xD

    • @Avo7977
      @Avo7977 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@krisumusic Right on. Yeah Havoc seems the better choice for a new player over Fury in terms of ROI on effort, survivability, and fun.

  • @YouMayBeSeated
    @YouMayBeSeated 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Wow has a problem getting people to heal so the solution they found was make it even harder by giving them a dps rotation to do while still healing. Makes sense…

    • @avirian6589
      @avirian6589 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      How is spamming moonfire "harder" than healing on rdruid in Dragonflight currently? Don't type if you don't know what you're talking about.

    • @YouMayBeSeated
      @YouMayBeSeated 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@avirian6589 Literally one class example… but if Resto is doing that much damage, it means every other healing spec is going to have to do the same to compete in Arena. Also it’s more than just spamming Moonfire and Wrath. You also have to know when it’s okay to do so and not. Adds a layer of complexity that is not needed for specs already severely lacking due to difficulty in PvP.

    • @avirian6589
      @avirian6589 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@YouMayBeSeated Is "healing being hard" why there's a shortage of healers? Or is it because of the MMR discrepancy, no communication in SS (which makes it incredibly harder than 2/3's) and unfun nature of healing in general (always been a lack of healers since vanilla).
      I don't think adding moonfire/lightning bolt/whatever to your healing "rotation" is going to make it more difficult. Healing is difficult for sure, but it's not because of "weaving damage", it's because Dragonflight meta has been so incredibly bursty that one mistake loses you the game, whereas as a dps you can make 10 mistakes and still go 4/6.

  • @know_Name
    @know_Name 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    xoxox buff orc racial

  • @bogdanrotaru6101
    @bogdanrotaru6101 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    wait moonkin form is gone even for ballance?

    • @BagelBoy3
      @BagelBoy3 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      moonkin form is in the balance tree now instead of the druid tree so only balance druids can have it

  • @EpicShiba
    @EpicShiba 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dont like the idea of a resto druid doing this much dmg from range without casting. At least have em be in catform taking a risk and not also healing at the same time...

  • @oliverpanhans6156
    @oliverpanhans6156 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i absolute dislike all these minions and pets i wish they wouldve removed the treants

  • @user-tw1dt4no7f
    @user-tw1dt4no7f 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    pvp sucks in wow period. always will until someone cares about it is there.

    • @Darthmagus
      @Darthmagus 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They will never make it good since 0,2% of the playerbase does pvp and the 0,1% of that 0,2% does it for tmogs haha. PVP IS BAAAAD

  • @HKono_
    @HKono_ 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    nerf shamans

  • @farmerjoseph8683
    @farmerjoseph8683 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I didnt learn anything from this video besides you like to make fun of players and accept no blame on yourself

  • @alexervin4321
    @alexervin4321 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    you ever listen to the info you put out here, I mean LISTEN. explains why WOW is a loser. look at the calculus involved to get the play. get back to basic algebra.

  • @MoreOriginality
    @MoreOriginality 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Complains about having to pop cds to outheal 2 high dps class bursts. Then proceeds to force cds as a healer. I swear healers just want to afk

  • @Darthmagus
    @Darthmagus 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "Pvp any good?" Bruh, people that do pvp in WoW must have issues irl

  • @Ekomo95
    @Ekomo95 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    this healer dps give me ptbs from gushing wounds tbh im not a big fan of DPS healer

    • @cci9459
      @cci9459 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Awwww, new things scary? Awwww, missing the 2004 healer "gameplay" of spamming one button from 40 yards? Awwwww....

    • @Ekomo95
      @Ekomo95 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@cci9459 na i like the fast gameplay but healer should heal XD

    • @edwardhatfield5360
      @edwardhatfield5360 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Like the prenerf SL Holy Paladin just cracking ppl in the back of the head with a judgment for 25% of the targets health. Good times.

    • @TheSergantwafflez
      @TheSergantwafflez 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Post Traumatic Butt Syndrome

    • @g.henriquecosta983
      @g.henriquecosta983 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Ekomo95no. They can do more than that.

  • @eltonazevedo1361
    @eltonazevedo1361 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    PvP in next exp TWW will be worst than shadowlands! they cant balance pvp because of M+ pve state! all classes are buffed and worked for pve side. this game lost the PvP balance and talents builds sense MoP was done!
    they need to give pvp talents rather than chosing pve talents to do pvp. i only care about pvp but they are forcing me to do PvE instead even with PvE talents.
    for pvp we deserved a talent tree based on it and pvp talents should never be a forcing *same talents* as extra talents!
    there are allot of talents that should be passive towards the class/specc and one of them is shattering throw should be baseline for all speccs of warrior class! there is allot warrior class *left side* talents that is worthless for pvp but we need to get them to advance forward to chose what is good for pvp side! and what they have done to warrior class and their hero talents was the most sadness and disgrace they ever came trough!
    they give you a hero talent tree with all your shit to fokuc on execute once again and still with all Class /specc talents for all execute forcing us to go for it still mortal strike hit harder than sudden death executes! and if u damage other target you lose the damage output u need to stack upon hitting the same target! blizzard dont have pvp players working in the game and this game is losing their fun because many pvp players cant have fun because of what they doing to the classes!
    retri paladins keep being the most broken class, Death Knights just came from the underground and now are hero class what they should had being from 4 expansions ago, and warrior is just the weakest dps from ALL the melees out there!
    they nerfed our anger management, they nerf bladestorm, they nerfed dragon roar and even the passive bleed afect, they nerfed avatar, they nerfed overpower scattering overpower talents across the arms tree and making us to sacrifice some important talents just to get overpower talents!
    in 19 years being at the top in pvp , i think i will step down and stop playing wow with my warrior! im done! these guys are delusional as fuck other classes get good reworks and good shit but warriors get nothing!

    • @jonathancham7788
      @jonathancham7788 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      damn right !!!

    • @anannoyedpanda
      @anannoyedpanda 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      congratulations or I'm sorry.

    • @eugenesternin6039
      @eugenesternin6039 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      PvP doesn’t bring money, so no point in spending effort

    • @Darthmagus
      @Darthmagus 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@eugenesternin6039 of course it doesnt bring money, its just plain bad.

  • @cs4mo
    @cs4mo 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Welp anothe season of range classes being punching bags to warriors hunters and wws. Pass.

  • @Kuskash
    @Kuskash 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    TLDR of all top tier pvp beta testers: Damage is awful / games too slow / way too much self healing going around.

    • @Akatsuk1Tobi
      @Akatsuk1Tobi 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thats great slower games are way more fun

  • @Akatsuk1Tobi
    @Akatsuk1Tobi 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Fast damage profiles is very new player unfriendly , you contributing to the death of wow pvp by promoting it... please stop

  • @markking5605
    @markking5605 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    algo

    • @GUTAMAYAx
      @GUTAMAYAx 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Garbage S Coin. Get that crap out of here. It’s a Ponzi scheme/Scam just like the majority of other crypto projects.

  • @eugenesternin6039
    @eugenesternin6039 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really prefer to be one shoted by rogues in one GCD, rather than slapping ppl like a wet noodle for 30 minutes every arena.

    • @angrygun7826
      @angrygun7826 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Which class do you play?

    • @Akatsuk1Tobi
      @Akatsuk1Tobi 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@angrygun7826 probably rogue

  • @Cyclone435
    @Cyclone435 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Am sure if they make every class can one shot, everyone wana try pvp and it will look much better

  • @l_Nightbot_l
    @l_Nightbot_l 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Still focusing on arena, ignoring this is an mmo? Then is still shit.

    • @Supatease
      @Supatease  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      I don't know what you're expecting bro. Dragonflight had some of the best most fun world pvp I've ever experienced if you saw some of my highest viewed videos towards the start of the expansion. There isn't any world pvp to test atm but I assume it's just as good. The BG qs don't pop or I'd include more of them.

    • @cci9459
      @cci9459 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Supateaseplese have my wow babies

    • @mrbojangles6156
      @mrbojangles6156 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@ArlotharI second this lol. Well said !

    • @g.henriquecosta983
      @g.henriquecosta983 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      What does this even mean? Lmao some of wow orbiters are such freaks. Try making some sense next time

    • @anannoyedpanda
      @anannoyedpanda 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dude shut the hell up.