Old vs New! How Does this old Discovery II compare to the today's Discovery? Find out here as we take both of them up Gold Mine Hill: th-cam.com/video/hYDZIDk-X1s/w-d-xo.html
The Fast Lane Car you should do a review on the reliability issues the D2 faced and what are best options for rectifying and keeping your D2 going strong. One of my favorite vehicle designs of all time. However, I’ve always avoided buying one due to reliability concerns. So I bought an older Land Cruiser instead
If it makes you feel any better, the door handle surrounds and other areas are add-on 'wood' features. The only factory wood is the belt-line on the dash.
My dad bought me a 2001 Land Rover Discovery when I turned 16 in 2010 for $9k. At 29, I still drive it and it is an absolute beast that I will never get rid of. Granted, it has had...a couple of trips to the mechanic over the years hahaha. But man I love that truck.
Was originally looking for older Toyota land cruisers but these LR Discovery’s are really catching my eye. What kind of mpg are you getting and how reliability are they?
@@alexbrutlag6022 MPG is not great, like 12. Reliability is okay. Its not so much how often they break, its how expensive it is when they do. Everything on these cars are 3x the price of parts and labor on "normal" cars. For example, to have a mechanic replace the radiator in these is like $1,500+. To do it on, say a jeep wrangler for example, would be like $500. And that goes for literally every single part on them.
Thanks for the video! I inherited my sister’s Disco 2, after she drove it into the ground and parked it into a corner, to be forgotten. I gave her a few bucks for it and 5 thousand dollars later in parts and my own labor, my new to me Rover is running like a beast. I’m currently in the process of dumping 10 thousand dollars in overlanding gear from ARB, to match with a Warn winch, Old Man Emu lift kit, poly bushings, new suspension components, EBC green stuff brakes, BF Goodrich AT, black 16” steel rims, Safari snorkel, Baja Rack and off road lights. I’m keeping my Disco 2 for life. And especially love working on it and learning how to fix it, for the purpose of self recovery while out on the trail. Thanks to your well detailed video, I learned a few more things about my rover. Like the miles to kilometers conversion. Thanks!
Tell me about it. I’m in my second Discovery I as my daily driver - and it goes without say… preferred off road adventure rig (which my Jeep can’t compare).
Great review, well thought out. Tommy is right about the newer Rovers. Without the large windows, low belt-line, high ride height, and high seating position, they lost their appeal.
@@TFLcar in other words, if the truck floods the first thing to die is the CPU for you transmission. I wouldn't have picked that spot, but another unique thing I guess.
They are so unreliable. I took my 1999 from Wisconsin to Denver, then to Moab where I towed a Toyota out of a ditch. Vegas, Santa Monica. down 40/ Route 66. Grand Canyon, Petrified Forest. Snow in Vail and 110 in Baker. In the end 4965 miles. Yes we had failure. Somewhere on 76 it got real loud. Trip to a dealer in Colorado Springs for an exhaust manifold collector gasket, installed myself. Grand total, $7.50.
@@jjt1093 because they are greedy and gas makes way more money than diesel. I would love to have a diesel fueled car or even flex fuel. But no they make all these gas guzzling cars. Hell hybrid vehicles are a lovely thing too. A diesel and electric car would be a travelers dream.
True brother have had a few and alway got at least 185K miles out of the "unreliable motor", without any real maintenance at all. It is also easy to buy a compleat engine from UK and put in a OEM diesel engine, by just changing engine mounts, wiring is plug and play.
I had a 2000 Disco II from 2002-2006, wasn't the motor I found unreliable, was the electronics... Loved the way it drove and the seating position...swore I would never own another but now feeling a strong dose of nostalgia for the ex-girlfriend and the ride!
The window controls are situated in the middle of the Disco as the thing can be converted right and left hand drive. Look at the shifter numbers - on both sides of the shifter. The passenger air bag can be removed to accommodate the steering and instrument panel. Love my 98 Disco!!! Still turning heads! ... and I bought it for $1700 Canadian dollars (probably $500 US) over 8 years ago :D
I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE my old Discovery I !!!!!! I had to replace every window actuator (luckily I had the extended warrantee!!) but after that my Disco was very reliable!! Only thing I didn't like was it wanted to drink only premium fuel! I wish I still had it! Far and away my favorite car all time!!!!
It's the coolest car I've ever owned by far! I've always wanted one and finally pulled the trigger 5 years ago. Spent another a month sorting everything out. It is not just a car but more of hobby. I would never recommend the Disco to someone who doesn't enjoy working on cars.
Haha 100% my dream car since my freshman year in HS was a dsicovery 2 and I got an 03 over here in Cali for 1600$ and all I had to do was change the fluids put a new radiator in and change the trans filter 😁 love my disco 2 but def would agree, not for the mechanically inadept
Jon Redd ... Exactly..! It needs a special guy to owned..! This Disco, is NOT FOR ANYBODY..!!!!!! I'm the crazy one who own one, and will NEVER be for sale ever. Will stays with me ! Hate / Love relationship.! Hate to spend on , Love to drive...!
I also love my 2000 D2 I bought one from a Police auction for $800 that had the slippy sleeve and bought a wrecked 2001 D2 for $1000 that only had 100K and swapped in the good engine.
Here in the UK I had a D2 ( 2002 2.5 diesel ) took us all over Europe towing a caravan ( trailer ) and never let us down.I did however maintain the vehicle well it wanted for nothing.I was so confident with the vehicle I sold it to my daughter who only had one problem a heater hose rubbed through.I then bought a new D4. It has broken down twice and it is now on 15,000 miles, so the D2 a great vehicle.My daughter sold the D2 to a guy who works in the paint shop next to my independent LR garage so I still see it.
I have had a Disco 1 and am on my 3rd Disco 2 that has been chipped and performs 20 % better than the 2 Disco 2 I had previously. All were purchased with 225,000 plus kms. My first disco 2 was written off in a rollover with a 25ft caravan on behind (that is a story). The strength of the Disco saved my wife and my life. All have been reliable (apart from the 3 Amigos). Just got rid off them on my current rig. Complex but nor hard to work on I managed to do a full engine loom and injector loom change myself (with the help of You Tube and a full handbook. Your summary is spot on. Fantastic to drive on or particularly off road. Wife wants to get something smaller but "bad luck wifey ain't gonna happen anyway soon". Love my Disco!
Well I did it! I’m officially a member of the nuthouse...I went and bought an 04 Disco II SE. Been wanting one for years but Y’alls videos pushed my over the edge. Already bringing smiles to my face...so far, knock wood. Wish me luck!!
Petrol is not a good idea for a off-road vehicle imo. Diesel was made exactly for this purpose, it's more economic, stronger and can tow more weight, has more torque. All the upsides that a 4x4 vehicle or a heavy vehicle needs. In fact Diesel was made for farmers in mind, to be cheap to run (on veggie oil). I believe in Rudolf Diesel's dream, high underappreciated visionary
Solo Vagant a darn shame. Damn America and the emission laws. I want the diesel Subaru engine in my wife's crosstrek it gets better mpg. I want the tdi version of this rig.
I also loved my 2004 Disco II but it was very unreliable in the summer. In the 2 short years I had it, I got a new transfer case, changed the water pump 3 times, and replaced most of hoses and the battery. Smh but it was a dream on the CO Jeep trails- drove like luxury in the mud.
This is my second discovery, had an 03 and now an 04. We recently drove our discovery Croats country NYC to LAX via the national parks ( Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Nevada & California ) the car was a dream, very comfortable and reliable. Had a oil change in Vegas, and to replace the aging fuel pump in Oklahoma City, beside that miner ( 7500 miles later ) not a single drop of oil on the ground. This car is classic.
Only Discos for me, I own a 2003 Disco Se7 and have gone everywhere in it. Sure it requires routine maintenance but if you stay on top of it, it will deliver every time 🤔🙄😜
"and some oil, because you need because it's a Land Rover." I love that phrase. I just bought a 2000 Discovery 2 today! I love it! My family loves it! I look forward to learning more about this British built SUV!
Discovery 5 is an abomination. To me, this is the classic Disco. Timeless design and I still think it looks really good. Shame about the reliability though....
I had an ‘02 Disco. Absolutely loved every inch of it. After 2-3 yrs of ownership I never faced any mechanical issues. I must have been one of the lucky ones lol. Some day I’d like to get an ‘04 model and fix it up, maybe take it on the occasional off road trip or something. These are special, the leather, the 4WD, just a very unique driving experience compared to anything else out there. Love that you guys are doing videos of this rig.
By far the best review I've seen of the Disco 2. I'm looking to change our MPV & I've long looked at the Disco 2 as it's replacement, I love its' looks'. My local mechanic warns me about mechanical & body problems but I'm sure "The One" is out there waiting for me. Thanks.
I say this review is spot on. Lots of thoughtful design features that make for utility and functionality like: contoured steering wheel that give a natural grip for the hands and fingers, massive dual sunvisors, roof gutters that keep rain from dripping into the car when opening the door or when having the windows partially opened. I particularly LOVE the worm & roller steering box that still affords the driver some road feel while completely isolating the drivers hands from the sudden torque shocks when hitting obstacles. I owned another suv with rack and pinion steering and almost broke my thumb when I accidentally hit a tall curb, which the Discovery 2 would have just climbed over without blinking. The Discovery2 amazingly also rides and handles quite nice IMO for its dual live axles, though it did bottom out in the front a few times. The only griep I had for that car was the engine w/c you had to have replaced with a beefed up version from British Atlantic for 5grand.
You did a superb job describing all of the idiosyncrasies of the Disco II. I use to drive them as loaners and loved their sound systems. On the road, they are not bad. I never took them off- road as I did my Rangie.
Very nice review and knowledge as always,My dad drove range rovers for years and the service costs were always ridiculous.They were also worthless after 10 years.I drove his 1990 in a bad snowstorm upstate NY once and it was unstoppable.Than so was my 1990 jeep.
At 2:55 - there is a reason for thin doors. I had a '98 which I took off road, and when you're without a spotter, having the ability to be close to the door (note how the arm rests are not deep either), you can lean out that low slung window and see the placement of your front and rear driver side wheels. It's designed that way for a purpose.
I have a fully rigged out 2003 and it's my hurricane mode transporter. I love my truck and my kids love it even more when I put kayaks and things on top heading to the Florida keys. Very fun and reliable truck. I wouldn't sell ever. If you're lucky to own one with all things taken care of, your good to go anywhere. I see you also replaced the original wheels! I did the same with larger sizes. My family looooove this truck. When they see me grabbing the keys, the know the shit is about to hit the fan!!!
I've got an 03 also!! Love mine, just done your average if not more maintenance on it filters etc oil change every 7k and it's been awesome! Have you had to get a new engine yet? Or have yours remachined?
I feel the same, can't give up my Disco II Se7, never. My children love it, especially camping time and climbing the ladder. It's the perfect family truck. It's not perfect, but if you stay on top of the routine maintenance it will always pull through. I fully understand some of the complaint's but I believe it's all about good scheduled routine maintenance and fully building up the truck for what it's really designed for, off-road ability and not a cute show car, get a BMW for that 😂
Not only that but a Land Rover does something the other brands don't and that's teach you about maintenance and basic engineering, it's handy to know these things, with modern cars nowadays people don't know what to do! They don't even know how to change a wheel check and change all the liquids and fuses clean filters or just do some basic trouble shooting by listening to the engine/gearbox/exhaust! Just knowing these things can save you a lot of money! I don't own a Land Rover but I've learnt all the above mentioned because I'm a delivery driver and we have to know the basics and the knowledge I've learnt helps me with my car now if you don't drive for a living you don't tend to know all these little things but if you own something like a Disco that needs the attention you get to learn all these basic things every car has in some shape or form! It's better having the knowledge than not!
Agreed. He only missed three points and I cannot criticize him for missing them. The 3 points are heated windshield, ACE and SLS systems, and the cubby under the front passenger seat is not storage but for the CD player.
Had an ‘03- it was unique and I enjoyed my time with it but it broke down badly within four years of ownership. Learned an important lesson from it- to buy Japanese and Japanese only moving forward.
D1 and D2 had no panels the same. There is nothing interchangeable mechanically either . Even the wheels don't swap. You can "swap" some of the glass as the window frames in the doors are similar, as iss the windscreen aperture, but the glass itself is different. The bonnet looks the same, but the lock panel is different. Even the chassis ( frame, I think you guys call it ) is completely different. I know. I have one of each, both diesels.
I thought this was one of the coolest vehicles on the road and bought a Disco II some years ago. It was both under powered and thirsty and was by far the most unreliable vehicle I have ever owned. Everything that went wrong with it was always ridiculously expensive to repair. Happy the day I got it but so much happier the day I got rid of it.
Great video. I bought a 2004 Land Rover Discovery 2 a couple years ago, and I love it to death. But these things are mechanical messes, unfortunately. So I'm always working on it, or getting something done to fix it. By the way, the cubby hole under the passenger seat is for the optional 6 disc CD player, which mine came with.
I prefer the P38a Range Rover, from which the majority of these unique features present in the Disco2 originated. I love Land Rover, even though they are problematic. Cheers
Tan leather is an unusually American obsession. Very, very few people in the UK or Europe would choose it because it's too easy to to get dirty and is considered dated. Most European cars have black leather or a patterned cloth interior. This explains why the steering wheel is black. Also, during the late fifties, sixties, seventies and eighties, notwithstanding the Range Rover and its variants, all Series Land Rovers had selectable 2WD/4WD, none had locking diffs (although the centre diff locked when 4WD was selected) and as a general rule, only military models had limited slip diffs. Locking differentials is also something specifically American and until the Nineties, was generally not considered necessary (in the UK), due to the strict laws prohibiting off-roading, due to the fact that the Country is so small and the ownership of large tracks of land dates back to families who have existed since Saxon and Norman times, so generally, all land is owned by somebody, even if it is the Crown and so most off roading is trespassing, except by invitation or if you are a farmer (there are exceptions to this). Switching between miles and kilometres would be a throw back to UK models where driving in Europe is difficult because nobody understands km, so would change this when driving on the Continent. The system where the key is pushed twice to double lock or dead lock the car was introduced for the UK initially to counter the horrendous explosion in the number of vehicle thefts at that time. Many vehicles today still have to employ this system, especially commercial vehicles.
Light colour interiors give an air of luxury and dark interiors sporty. I hate the limited availability of light interiors in the UK. Makes vehicles cabins a dark miserable place with all black. You make it sound like Europeans cant keep a car clean.
paul davison with regard to not being able to keep the interior clean, I didn’t mean that at all but it is just a fact that over time, light coloured leather interiors pick up dirt and stains, that are impossible to get rid of without having the leather re-treated. If you’re the kind of person who only keeps your car for three years, as most of the UK public seems obsessed with, then that’s fine but some of us buy new and keep until the car’s effectively dead, so this is an issue. Oh, and cream is soooo dated that relegates cars into the grand-dad owner category. I own one of the only Toyota Tundra’s in the UK and even that came with a grey interior!
@@sailing_raptor I always prefer light interiors as dark are just dull and sombre and look cheap. I'd rather be a grandad than that. Kids,dogs and long term ownership and all last just as long as a black interior just down to looking after them. The only refreshment I've ever had is for damage and that doesn't relate to colour. Buying black because it copes with stains better is alien to me because I clean and treat my trim correctly so that kind of problem isnt as issue. The rest of the planet using light interiors seem to cope OK also.
Lightstone and alpaca beige are easily the most popular colours in P38 Range Rover and Discovery2 ... both beige ... alpaca is the interior colour of this discovery. Very popular across the world. Granite grey and ash black are less popular.
I'm so glad that you did this video to give a new owner a better understanding of the functionality of the "bells and whistles" of this BEAST! Got some stuff to do under the hood (get rid of the 3 amigos and battery cables need replacing) but it's a sturdy truck!
Great video Tommy. Very cool that you took the time to dig that deep into the product. Have you ever considered doing a video to put the current reliability of Land Rover products in perspective? Are Land Rover products getting more reliable over time? I read lots of complaints about reliability but, don’t see the side of the road littered with broken down Land Rovers. I get that they may not be as “reliable” as a Toyota but, what does that really mean to the average person. Does every Land Rover have problems or is it just a small percentage of vehicles. I try to ask every Land Rover owner I see if they have any problems and I have yet to have one say yes.
Three amigos can be an issue. It just popped up on mine. Overall with diagnostics and repairs it cost around $600. They replaced the shuttle valve switch pack. I really love this vehicle! I’m a very dedicated Jeep girl, but the Rover is my other fun rig. It’s an AMAZING 4 wheel drive.
I know this is an old video but if i may i would like to comment on the "gate release" or " gearshift lock". If its used as a gate release u wont have the problem of going straight to 3rd as u mentioned. for example when shifting from 3rd to park u pressed the gate release from 3rd to park. the shifter should be "palmed" forward to the gate at reverse then the gate released by pressing the "gate release" to access reverse. its a safety feature to prevent inadvertent selection of reverse while still moving forward. the reason there is no "gate" for 3rd is because inadvertent selection of 3rd will not cause transmission damage, whereas inadvertent selection of 2nd at too high a speed may. sadly 90+% of drivers press the "gate release" every time they move the gear shift!
Now this was the first Disco II review I really followed from start to finish - interesting details, nice pace of explanation, good camera. Thumb up! I even learned a few tricks I didn't know about.
I remember seeing plenty of these, back then, as a kid. Like the Toyota Land Cruiser, 4Runner, Lexus LX470s, and so many other SUVs made for beating up and off roading on top of the usual road trips, these trucks still hold up in terms of solid capability and durability if you look past gas mileage and robustness. I do like the cabin size, luxury, and utility of these all in one truck. Nostalgia!
As a daily driver of a Disco II, I thank you for posting this vid :) PS that 'super sneaky cubby' under the passenger seat was where the CD cartridge changer originally would have gone
As a driver of the same land rover I have never had a issue with shifting from P to D I have never shifted to 3rd by mistake. (And I am only 16 so I haven't driven that much compared to someone else)
Love the video and your Landie Tommy. Yours doesn't have active cornering I see. If you get a chance to drive one with Active Cornering ( ACE ) definitely do so. They totally transform the disco's on and off road. You are so very lucky to get the 4.6 V8 (It didn't come to Australia) but did to New Zealand weirdly. Originally it was going to be a Buick motor but after changing many parts on it to try to make it lighter Rover then decided to develop their own all aluminum 3528 cc V8 (So they say, but there was actually a BMW all aluminum V8 that happened to also be 3528 cc at the same time). In the mid 1980's it was slightly modified and was turned in to a 3528 cc V8 diesel, called Project Iceberg but never went into production because of manufacturing cost's. The motor was then redesigned in the early 1990's with the 3.9 V8 3947 cc and the 4.2 that appeared in your Range Rover Classic/County LWB (Long Wheel Base) (LSE) and then once agian with the 4.0 V8 and 4.6 V8 (4.6's were cross bolted and had a heavier block) and then were later redesigned again in the later 1990's with the Bosch infection system when British Aerospace sold JLR to BMW for 5 Pounds.
"I read all the comments, even the mean ones"-Tommy . Listen Thomas, don't ever let the haters get you down. You are doing what you love and you're good at it which is more than most people can say about themselves. Keep on going
very great review, your natural didn’t stumble one word and I watched the whole video in my attention span is 0.0. thanks! just got mine 2 days ago, excited!!
Just bought my first Disco II this weekend up in Sacramento, a 2001 edition. This video's been super helpful as I've been getting more acquainted with my new ride. Very excited! Thank you much! :)
Picking up a 2003 disco 2 with a blown motor White SE with tan leather For 700$ The Body is in near perfect shape and it has no rot. Just gotta find a motor the ole girl. i have owned multiple jeeps. I just fell in love with the 2000 - 2005 discovery for some reason. Something about it.
God, I miss my Discos so much! I've had five; a Series 1, 2 Series 2s and 2 Series 3s. The all time favourite was the second Series 2; one of the last of the Series 2s when LR loaded it with toys. Took it overland from London through Europe into Turkey and down into the Syrian desert. Never missed a beat and supremely comfortable. Did you know that the interior design on the original Series 1 was done by Sir Terence Conran, founder of the Habitat chain of interior design stores? I now have a Freelander 2 (LR2), which is almost as much fun. Thanks for the nostalgia!
I believe some of those wood bits are aftermarket or dealer purchased kits. The only wood that my 04 Disco had was the strip above the glove box. Fantastic vehicle. Same color as yours with the tan interior. It was the SE model with the larger wheels. I traded it in when it needed a bunch of engine work and the rear sunroof broke in the popped up position. I would definitely buy one again as a second "fun" vehicle.
Keep the cooling system spotlessly clean internally and rad free of debris, never tow a trailer, have more than one passenger, load it with more than a packed lunch and you should be OK.
What a terrific review! Luvvit. You blokes did very well covering most aspects of the vehicle and I quite enjoyed perving at a nice NAS Disco 2. Note: the 2nd row seats are slightly further forward than in the Disco 1 in order to provide more room in the rear for the forward-facing 3rd row seats (side-facing in Disco 1’s) and to offer more luggage space in the rear. The rear overhang was also increased slightly to afford the above mentioned space improvements. Anyway, I’m gonna go back and rewatch the vid coz it was so good. Cheers fellas.
Great essay Tommy. Isn't it a pity that with a name and heritage like Land Rover has, that they can't produce one that will be mostly trouble free and last for years?
@@leighmackay9192 Yes, they sure did Leigh,..my brother in law, had one, a Series 11A with gasoline engine, this was in the late 1960's into the early 70's. He and my sister with their four children, would tow his 18 foot Caravan ( camping trailer ) all over our Province here in Canada during summer vacations. His first one was the short wheel base model and it did have free-wheeling hubs on it too. He must have really enjoyed his Land Rover's because he went on to buy two or three more and ended up with the Range Rover model.
This had strong Doug Demuro energy. Without the cringe factor. This brothet is a natural though not taking anything away from his presentation, just comparing him to the best.
Great review, but he failed to reveal the fact that the new engine in the 03-04 has fatal issue from the factory. It has oil pump issue and it will need costly lifters job on regular basis. Often there are ads selling those mention "it just have a new header replaced"
Fixed mine and its is AMAZING. -27celsius - full frozen windshield - turn it on - wait 2minutes and just WIPE ice off - truly amazing however quite a power hog xD
The best feature of these cars, at least high spec European ones was the ACE anti roll system, it was like a different car. Would be nice to see a recap of that.
From a Landy owner I approve this message ...and for those talk about reliability I come to from jeep brand and both brand have a big list of problems so don't come and say jeep is better because 12 year ago I was driving a jeep commander and was like 17 issue to fix and then I switch to Land Rover LR series but also the best Jeep I own was a ZJ Grand Cherokee in red with 6 inline but died from the Transmission...both brand have is own history but if you tale me what brand you used to cross the Amazon's. Hand up with a Land Rover LR3 stock with snorkel , 18 BF T/A ,Roof tent, m4 rifle for the free of the bold eagle country and all kind of groceries,rope with chain,winch, and the list continue..why I don't select jeep. because is small and never make a full camel trophy event.think about that.
I think all off road-based vehicles have their own unique problems. I once had an ex-friend who had a 2002 Land Rover Discovery Series II Kalahari Special Edition and that thing has been in the shop so many times to the point where the cost to repair the vehicle doubled with the original price of the vehicle itself. (Broken engine lifters, leaking transmission, poor mpg, stuck 4WD shifter lever, leaking coolant, etc..) Premium gas and because it had a 3 inch lift and 33's, average mpg in the city was 7 mpg. Yep. On expensive premium fuel. Now I'm not saying that Jeeps are better either because they're really not. (I say that as a Jeep owner myself). All off road vehicles have their pros and especially their cons. You just choose which cons you love and want to deal with 🤗 I personally love my Jeep despite her quirky reliability here and then
Same for me. I've had a fair number of ZJs and WJs and none of them were more reliable than my Rover. (I've had a CJ5 but that's apples and oranges.) I also love my Rover a million times more than any Jeep I've had. The only thing I miss from my Jeep days is the steering. Jeeps (ZJ, WJ, XJ) do have a better steering system.
I have been wanting to buy one of these for years now and this just makes me want to buy one even more. Yeah I know reliability can be an issue but I'm already so infatuated with these trucks that I'm willing to take it with whatever flaws it has. I already have so many plans and ideas in my head I'm just so ready to take on new adventures.
I think the wheel chocks are needed more on the discovery 2 than other land rovers especially the earlier ones, you should always engage the centre diff lock when jacking the vehicle otherwise it would roll away! Obviously most disco 2 never had the centre diff lick so chocking the wheels is really a must!
The cup holders were designed specifically for the US because of your insanely sized drinks. Everywhere else in the world came out with the standard pop out holders under the HVAC controls. The wheel nuts are actually really cool. One of them is actually a cover for a lock-nut which LandRover supplied a tool to remove said cover which from memory was signified by having an indent in the cover so you would know what One had the lock-but under it.
The wood looks better when you have the full dash kit like mine came with. Its just a wood veneer. Also I would suggest putting the bottle jack back in. A high lift is great, but if you just need to change a tire. The bottle jack and a block of wood is way safer and faster. My Discovery is lifted 4" with 34's and i still use the bottle jack to change tires. You also didnt talk about ACE. Im guessing your D2 didnt come with it. Definitely worth mentioning when talking about D2 features.
we have a 2000 Disco II and I agree that it's highly unusual, but if you can find someone with an early 90's Mitsubishi Montero, I would highly recommend checking it out.
I've had close to a dozen full size montero's and I love them, but I can't find them any more and the prices are creeping up so I'm considering purchasing one of these
I have a 2003 Range Rover Discovery. I use it to go up a horse trail to get to our cabin in the mountains. I may use it two or three times a year. Maybe 60 to 70 miles per year. It is truly a great vehicle. Because I do not use it all the time. I have a hard time getting my vehicle through emission. In the State of Maryland if a vehicle is 20 yrs. old it can be classified as a classic vehicle. The Motor Vehicle think I am attempting to get over because I can't pass emission. I believe my car deserves to be a classic because it is such a wonderful vehicle. I really love my old Range Rover. Thanks
Nice one Tommy. In the UK market at least the small access panel under the drivers seat was to give access to the CD multichanger. Not really much use as cubby.
Have owned two, 2000 manual TD5 with CDL that I hooked up a electric door lock motor to switch on and off.. blew the big end bearing.. Then bought a 2002 TD5 automatic with traction control and loved it, tough dog suspension, hybrid turbo cartridge and ecu tune.... Blew the head.. ha ha.. So researching options to fix..
I have a 2000 TD5. Officially, the worst car I have ever bought. 3 engines, 3 heads, 4 head gaskets, and everything else. The list is too long to mention. A lot of stuff just wears out so has to be replaced. A lot of other stuff reliability stuff is down to idiot drivers. Myself included. Do not buy one of these unless you like to tinker. I didn't want to tinker but I have had no choice. Anyway, after saying all that, this Disco is the most charismatic, useful, versatile vehicle I have ever had. A bit like an old Labrador, not good on corners, poo's on your lawn, eats you of house and home, but, is always warm and welcoming and sits there with its big eyes, and, its tongue hanging out, and you just have to love it!
3 engines, 3 heads and 4 head gaskets. I think you're doing something wrong, or maybe you're doing something right and having too much fun. Mine has done 415,000kms first engine, with one head change.
23 years later....my D2 is still my 'daily' driver with almost 145k miles. Daily is in quotes because I leave home in my company service truck so I don't really have to drive any of my other vehicles 'daily'. For such an 'unreliable' vehicle my D2 has never left me stranded or broke down. Aside from regular maintenance items and the occasional wheel sensor going bad causing the infamous tres amigos it's been pretty good. The worst thing being the rear air bags, the rubber getting old, cracking and causing an air leak. I have always been jealous of the 04' owners with their fancy lights and factory CDL actuator. I have a spare 02' 6.0L Vortec work truck and lately I've been thinking of using it as a donor for an LS swap 🤔
Old vs New! How Does this old Discovery II compare to the today's Discovery? Find out here as we take both of them up Gold Mine Hill: th-cam.com/video/hYDZIDk-X1s/w-d-xo.html
Very detailed review. Thanks for share your knowledge with us.
u could have a centre diff lock button fitted from the factory when new u had to ask for it and they didn't tell u u could have such a thing
The Fast Lane Car you should do a review on the reliability issues the D2 faced and what are best options for rectifying and keeping your D2 going strong. One of my favorite vehicle designs of all time. However, I’ve always avoided buying one due to reliability concerns. So I bought an older Land Cruiser instead
BMW owned Land Rover in the early 2000, they were the ones that brought forward the L322 RR.
If it makes you feel any better, the door handle surrounds and other areas are add-on 'wood' features. The only factory wood is the belt-line on the dash.
My dad bought me a 2001 Land Rover Discovery when I turned 16 in 2010 for $9k. At 29, I still drive it and it is an absolute beast that I will never get rid of. Granted, it has had...a couple of trips to the mechanic over the years hahaha. But man I love that truck.
Was originally looking for older Toyota land cruisers but these LR Discovery’s are really catching my eye. What kind of mpg are you getting and how reliability are they?
@@alexbrutlag6022 MPG is not great, like 12. Reliability is okay. Its not so much how often they break, its how expensive it is when they do. Everything on these cars are 3x the price of parts and labor on "normal" cars. For example, to have a mechanic replace the radiator in these is like $1,500+. To do it on, say a jeep wrangler for example, would be like $500. And that goes for literally every single part on them.
Thanks for the video! I inherited my sister’s Disco 2, after she drove it into the ground and parked it into a corner, to be forgotten. I gave her a few bucks for it and 5 thousand dollars later in parts and my own labor, my new to me Rover is running like a beast. I’m currently in the process of dumping 10 thousand dollars in overlanding gear from ARB, to match with a Warn winch, Old Man Emu lift kit, poly bushings, new suspension components, EBC green stuff brakes, BF Goodrich AT, black 16” steel rims, Safari snorkel, Baja Rack and off road lights.
I’m keeping my Disco 2 for life. And especially love working on it and learning how to fix it, for the purpose of self recovery while out on the trail.
Thanks to your well detailed video, I learned a few more things about my rover. Like the miles to kilometers conversion. Thanks!
The major problem with an old Land Rover is that you get addicted to them!!!
Paulo G very true even tho they have there problems I still miss mine I want to buy another one
+Jon Froio that's how I feel about Jeeps
Steve Rivera I love jeep too I’d love a 1996 jeep cherokee country or a. Wagoneer
Green Oval sickness. It gets expensive.
Tell me about it. I’m in my second Discovery I as my daily driver - and it goes without say… preferred off road adventure rig (which my Jeep can’t compare).
Great review, well thought out. Tommy is right about the newer Rovers. Without the large windows, low belt-line, high ride height, and high seating position, they lost their appeal.
that door under the right seat was for access to the cartidge in the optional 6 CD stacker.
Yup, that's where mine is. It's weird, but whatever. Underneath the driver seat is where the stereo amp is and the transmission cpu.
Thanks, that's great to know.
@@TFLcar in other words, if the truck floods the first thing to die is the CPU for you transmission. I wouldn't have picked that spot, but another unique thing I guess.
That's where my CD stacker is too. The door is for accessing the CD cartridge.
@@MrVegiroth how would the CPU for transmission die ? It would just kill CD player right?
They are so unreliable. I took my 1999 from Wisconsin to Denver, then to Moab where I towed a Toyota out of a ditch. Vegas, Santa Monica. down 40/ Route 66. Grand Canyon, Petrified Forest. Snow in Vail and 110 in Baker. In the end 4965 miles. Yes we had failure. Somewhere on 76 it got real loud. Trip to a dealer in Colorado Springs for an exhaust manifold collector gasket, installed myself. Grand total, $7.50.
I like the sarcasm but that will have gone over most Americans heads!
Put a blody diesel in it as most are in Europe for a reason, North Americans and the idea every vehicle needs to be gas engined I'll never understand
@@jjt1093 because they are greedy and gas makes way more money than diesel. I would love to have a diesel fueled car or even flex fuel. But no they make all these gas guzzling cars. Hell hybrid vehicles are a lovely thing too. A diesel and electric car would be a travelers dream.
True brother have had a few and alway got at least 185K miles out of the "unreliable motor", without any real maintenance at all. It is also easy to buy a compleat engine from UK and put in a OEM diesel engine, by just changing engine mounts, wiring is plug and play.
I had a 2000 Disco II from 2002-2006, wasn't the motor I found unreliable, was the electronics... Loved the way it drove and the seating position...swore I would never own another but now feeling a strong dose of nostalgia for the ex-girlfriend and the ride!
The window controls are situated in the middle of the Disco as the thing can be converted right and left hand drive. Look at the shifter numbers - on both sides of the shifter. The passenger air bag can be removed to accommodate the steering and instrument panel. Love my 98 Disco!!! Still turning heads! ... and I bought it for $1700 Canadian dollars (probably $500 US) over 8 years ago :D
The reason for central switches has nothing to do with converting from right to left.
I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE my old Discovery I !!!!!! I had to replace every window actuator (luckily I had the extended warrantee!!) but after that my Disco was very reliable!! Only thing I didn't like was it wanted to drink only premium fuel! I wish I still had it! Far and away my favorite car all time!!!!
It's the coolest car I've ever owned by far! I've always wanted one and finally pulled the trigger 5 years ago. Spent another a month sorting everything out. It is not just a car but more of hobby. I would never recommend the Disco to someone who doesn't enjoy working on cars.
Haha 100% my dream car since my freshman year in HS was a dsicovery 2 and I got an 03 over here in Cali for 1600$ and all I had to do was change the fluids put a new radiator in and change the trans filter 😁 love my disco 2 but def would agree, not for the mechanically inadept
Jon Redd ... Exactly..! It needs a special guy to owned..! This Disco, is NOT FOR ANYBODY..!!!!!! I'm the crazy one who own one, and will NEVER be for sale ever. Will stays with me ! Hate / Love relationship.! Hate to spend on , Love to drive...!
I also love my 2000 D2 I bought one from a Police auction for $800 that had the slippy sleeve and bought a wrecked 2001 D2 for $1000 that only had 100K and swapped in the good engine.
Ur damn right. I have it. All the way from dar es Salaam to kilimanjaro is amaizing
@@johnsonkiwia6577 bro niaje? Hv disco td5 iko poa au maana comments humu zanitisha.
Here in the UK I had a D2 ( 2002 2.5 diesel ) took us all over Europe towing a caravan ( trailer ) and never let us down.I did however maintain the vehicle well it wanted for nothing.I was so confident with the vehicle I sold it to my daughter who only had one problem a heater hose rubbed through.I then bought a new D4. It has broken down twice and it is now on 15,000 miles, so the D2 a great vehicle.My daughter sold the D2 to a guy who works in the paint shop next to my independent LR garage so I still see it.
I have had a Disco 1 and am on my 3rd Disco 2 that has been chipped and performs 20 % better than the 2 Disco 2 I had previously. All were purchased with 225,000 plus kms. My first disco 2 was written off in a rollover with a 25ft caravan on behind (that is a story). The strength of the Disco saved my wife and my life. All have been reliable (apart from the 3 Amigos). Just got rid off them on my current rig. Complex but nor hard to work on I managed to do a full engine loom and injector loom change myself (with the help of You Tube and a full handbook.
Your summary is spot on. Fantastic to drive on or particularly off road. Wife wants to get something smaller but "bad luck wifey ain't gonna happen anyway soon". Love my Disco!
I think this is the best review I’ve seen out of Tommy. Very professional and well done. Camera work is very good too.
Well I did it! I’m officially a member of the nuthouse...I went and bought an 04 Disco II SE. Been wanting one for years but Y’alls videos pushed my over the edge. Already bringing smiles to my face...so far, knock wood. Wish me luck!!
How is it?
I have exactly the same LR V8 2004. Drives like a dream and excellent off road
Petrol is not a good idea for a off-road vehicle imo. Diesel was made exactly for this purpose, it's more economic, stronger and can tow more weight, has more torque. All the upsides that a 4x4 vehicle or a heavy vehicle needs. In fact Diesel was made for farmers in mind, to be cheap to run (on veggie oil). I believe in Rudolf Diesel's dream, high underappreciated visionary
Mine's 16 years old now, but every time I look under the hood it's a brand new Discovery!! 😂
Engine is crap
Cummins R2.8 swap that thing
😂😂
it’s called a bonnet not a hood
😂😂 Yooo you're Hilarious, New discovery? under the hood? sound like problems
I’m genuinely stoked for you. You guys really lucked out and got a very nice Rover. Nice video, Tommy! Woot! 🤙🏽🤙🏽
Love my Disco 2. It's a real shame you Yanks didn't get the Td5 diesel engine...........
Solo Vagant a darn shame. Damn America and the emission laws. I want the diesel Subaru engine in my wife's crosstrek it gets better mpg. I want the tdi version of this rig.
With a chip and a better intercooler a 2.5 TD5 runs rings around the v8s, while using far less fuel.
I’ve got a 2004 TD5 here in Oz. 200,000+ miles on the clock. Owned it 12 years.
I agree! Maybe when we get rid of these shit bag liberals and communist we can do better. TD5 IS A GREAT VEHICLE
Its a shame you Brits never got the Suburban or Tahoe, those are real SUVs.
I also loved my 2004 Disco II but it was very unreliable in the summer. In the 2 short years I had it, I got a new transfer case, changed the water pump 3 times, and replaced most of hoses and the battery. Smh but it was a dream on the CO Jeep trails- drove like luxury in the mud.
This is my second discovery, had an 03 and now an 04. We recently drove our discovery Croats country NYC to LAX via the national parks ( Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Nevada & California ) the car was a dream, very comfortable and reliable. Had a oil change in Vegas, and to replace the aging fuel pump in Oklahoma City, beside that miner ( 7500 miles later ) not a single drop of oil on the ground. This car is classic.
Only Discos for me, I own a 2003 Disco Se7 and have gone everywhere in it. Sure it requires routine maintenance but if you stay on top of it, it will deliver every time 🤔🙄😜
"and some oil, because you need because it's a Land Rover." I love that phrase. I just bought a 2000 Discovery 2 today! I love it! My family loves it! I look forward to learning more about this British built SUV!
Hi, how's the car? I've got my eyes on a pretty red 99!
Dylan walker it’s pretty good. It does leak oil though. If you can handle that then you’ll have no problem with having one
Discovery 5 is an abomination. To me, this is the classic Disco. Timeless design and I still think it looks really good. Shame about the reliability though....
Ls swaaaap
total abomination
Got to agree!! Disco 5 is basically a Range Rover. Took a while to get used to the 3/4 but the 5 does nothing for me!!
Damian Morgan and the msrp is up to $80k which is a joke. I can buy a full size new Range Rover for $95k.
Bailey O. Absolutely not.
I had an ‘02 Disco. Absolutely loved every inch of it. After 2-3 yrs of ownership I never faced any mechanical issues. I must have been one of the lucky ones lol. Some day I’d like to get an ‘04 model and fix it up, maybe take it on the occasional off road trip or something. These are special, the leather, the 4WD, just a very unique driving experience compared to anything else out there. Love that you guys are doing videos of this rig.
By far the best review I've seen of the Disco 2.
I'm looking to change our MPV & I've long looked at the Disco 2 as it's replacement, I love its' looks'. My local mechanic warns me about mechanical & body problems but I'm sure "The One" is out there waiting for me. Thanks.
Really nice review, Tommy is really good at it and getting better and better!
but is it really the most unique SUV?
He’s actually pretty terrible.
@@littlegoatgt yes, you just have to own one or drive one.
I say this review is spot on. Lots of thoughtful design features that make for utility and functionality like: contoured steering wheel that give a natural grip for the hands and fingers, massive dual sunvisors, roof gutters that keep rain from dripping into the car when opening the door or when having the windows partially opened. I particularly LOVE the worm & roller steering box that still affords the driver some road feel while completely isolating the drivers hands from the sudden torque shocks when hitting obstacles. I owned another suv with rack and pinion steering and almost broke my thumb when I accidentally hit a tall curb, which the Discovery 2 would have just climbed over without blinking. The Discovery2 amazingly also rides and handles quite nice IMO for its dual live axles, though it did bottom out in the front a few times. The only griep I had for that car was the engine w/c you had to have replaced with a beefed up version from British Atlantic for 5grand.
You did a superb job describing all of the idiosyncrasies of the Disco II. I use to drive them as loaners and loved their sound systems. On the road, they are not bad. I never took them off- road as I did my Rangie.
One of my favorite rover features is the windshield! I love the defrost
Very nice review and knowledge as always,My dad drove range rovers for years and the service costs were always ridiculous.They were also worthless after 10 years.I drove his 1990 in a bad snowstorm upstate NY once and it was unstoppable.Than so was my 1990 jeep.
At 2:55 - there is a reason for thin doors. I had a '98 which I took off road, and when you're without a spotter, having the ability to be close to the door (note how the arm rests are not deep either), you can lean out that low slung window and see the placement of your front and rear driver side wheels. It's designed that way for a purpose.
I have a fully rigged out 2003 and it's my hurricane mode transporter. I love my truck and my kids love it even more when I put kayaks and things on top heading to the Florida keys. Very fun and reliable truck. I wouldn't sell ever. If you're lucky to own one with all things taken care of, your good to go anywhere. I see you also replaced the original wheels! I did the same with larger sizes. My family looooove this truck. When they see me grabbing the keys, the know the shit is about to hit the fan!!!
I've got an 03 also!! Love mine, just done your average if not more maintenance on it filters etc oil change every 7k and it's been awesome! Have you had to get a new engine yet? Or have yours remachined?
I feel the same, can't give up my Disco II Se7, never. My children love it, especially camping time and climbing the ladder. It's the perfect family truck. It's not perfect, but if you stay on top of the routine maintenance it will always pull through. I fully understand some of the complaint's but I believe it's all about good scheduled routine maintenance and fully building up the truck for what it's really designed for, off-road ability and not a cute show car, get a BMW for that 😂
Not only that but a Land Rover does something the other brands don't and that's teach you about maintenance and basic engineering, it's handy to know these things, with modern cars nowadays people don't know what to do! They don't even know how to change a wheel check and change all the liquids and fuses clean filters or just do some basic trouble shooting by listening to the engine/gearbox/exhaust! Just knowing these things can save you a lot of money! I don't own a Land Rover but I've learnt all the above mentioned because I'm a delivery driver and we have to know the basics and the knowledge I've learnt helps me with my car now if you don't drive for a living you don't tend to know all these little things but if you own something like a Disco that needs the attention you get to learn all these basic things every car has in some shape or form! It's better having the knowledge than not!
Coming from someone who drives an 04 Discovery 2, tommy is truly an expert on this model. Super in depth review!
Agreed. He only missed three points and I cannot criticize him for missing them.
The 3 points are heated windshield, ACE and SLS systems, and the cubby under the front passenger seat is not storage but for the CD player.
Had an ‘03- it was unique and I enjoyed my time with it but it broke down badly within four years of ownership. Learned an important lesson from it- to buy Japanese and Japanese only moving forward.
My 2003 is still going strong every day. I have driven on solid iced over roads without ever spinning a wheel.
Nice looking rig you've got there! I've got a '91 range rover and an '03 disco. Love em both!!
Had a discovery 2 in 2001. Best driving position I've ever had!
D1 and D2 had no panels the same. There is nothing interchangeable mechanically either . Even the wheels don't swap. You can "swap" some of the glass as the window frames in the doors are similar, as iss the windscreen aperture, but the glass itself is different. The bonnet looks the same, but the lock panel is different. Even the chassis ( frame, I think you guys call it ) is completely different.
I know. I have one of each, both diesels.
I have a 2001 LR Discovery 2. Had it since new. It still runs like new and never had a problem.
I thought this was one of the coolest vehicles on the road and bought a Disco II some years ago. It was both under powered and thirsty and was by far the most unreliable vehicle I have ever owned. Everything that went wrong with it was always ridiculously expensive to repair. Happy the day I got it but so much happier the day I got rid of it.
Great video. I bought a 2004 Land Rover Discovery 2 a couple years ago, and I love it to death. But these things are mechanical messes, unfortunately. So I'm always working on it, or getting something done to fix it. By the way, the cubby hole under the passenger seat is for the optional 6 disc CD player, which mine came with.
Fantastic review old chap,keep up the good work,thanks from the UK
I prefer the P38a Range Rover, from which the majority of these unique features present in the Disco2 originated. I love Land Rover, even though they are problematic. Cheers
Tan leather is an unusually American obsession. Very, very few people in the UK or Europe would choose it because it's too easy to to get dirty and is considered dated. Most European cars have black leather or a patterned cloth interior. This explains why the steering wheel is black.
Also, during the late fifties, sixties, seventies and eighties, notwithstanding the Range Rover and its variants, all Series Land Rovers had selectable 2WD/4WD, none had locking diffs (although the centre diff locked when 4WD was selected) and as a general rule, only military models had limited slip diffs. Locking differentials is also something specifically American and until the Nineties, was generally not considered necessary (in the UK), due to the strict laws prohibiting off-roading, due to the fact that the Country is so small and the ownership of large tracks of land dates back to families who have existed since Saxon and Norman times, so generally, all land is owned by somebody, even if it is the Crown and so most off roading is trespassing, except by invitation or if you are a farmer (there are exceptions to this).
Switching between miles and kilometres would be a throw back to UK models where driving in Europe is difficult because nobody understands km, so would change this when driving on the Continent.
The system where the key is pushed twice to double lock or dead lock the car was introduced for the UK initially to counter the horrendous explosion in the number of vehicle thefts at that time. Many vehicles today still have to employ this system, especially commercial vehicles.
That tacky tan is a hit with Americans. They also love shiny fake plastic wood too.
Light colour interiors give an air of luxury and dark interiors sporty.
I hate the limited availability of light interiors in the UK.
Makes vehicles cabins a dark miserable place with all black.
You make it sound like Europeans cant keep a car clean.
paul davison with regard to not being able to keep the interior clean, I didn’t mean that at all but it is just a fact that over time, light coloured leather interiors pick up dirt and stains, that are impossible to get rid of without having the leather re-treated. If you’re the kind of person who only keeps your car for three years, as most of the UK public seems obsessed with, then that’s fine but some of us buy new and keep until the car’s effectively dead, so this is an issue.
Oh, and cream is soooo dated that relegates cars into the grand-dad owner category. I own one of the only Toyota Tundra’s in the UK and even that came with a grey interior!
@@sailing_raptor I always prefer light interiors as dark are just dull and sombre and look cheap. I'd rather be a grandad than that.
Kids,dogs and long term ownership and all last just as long as a black interior just down to looking after them. The only refreshment I've ever had is for damage and that doesn't relate to colour.
Buying black because it copes with stains better is alien to me because I clean and treat my trim correctly so that kind of problem isnt as issue.
The rest of the planet using light interiors seem to cope OK also.
Lightstone and alpaca beige are easily the most popular colours in P38 Range Rover and Discovery2 ... both beige ... alpaca is the interior colour of this discovery. Very popular across the world. Granite grey and ash black are less popular.
I'm so glad that you did this video to give a new owner a better understanding of the functionality of the "bells and whistles" of this BEAST! Got some stuff to do under the hood (get rid of the 3 amigos and battery cables need replacing) but it's a sturdy truck!
Likeling your videos man. You're getting better as time goes on and it's shows you're time and devotion to your craft.
Great video Tommy. Very cool that you took the time to dig that deep into the product. Have you ever considered doing a video to put the current reliability of Land Rover products in perspective? Are Land Rover products getting more reliable over time? I read lots of complaints about reliability but, don’t see the side of the road littered with broken down Land Rovers. I get that they may not be as “reliable” as a Toyota but, what does that really mean to the average person. Does every Land Rover have problems or is it just a small percentage of vehicles. I try to ask every Land Rover owner I see if they have any problems and I have yet to have one say yes.
Three amigos can be an issue. It just popped up on mine. Overall with diagnostics and repairs it cost around $600. They replaced the shuttle valve switch pack. I really love this vehicle! I’m a very dedicated Jeep girl, but the Rover is my other fun rig. It’s an AMAZING 4 wheel drive.
I’ve got the disco 2 metropolis, had it years and never changing it. Love it. Excellent review, enjoyed watching.
Just got one, so I thank you for this.
I know this is an old video but if i may i would like to comment on the "gate release" or " gearshift lock".
If its used as a gate release u wont have the problem of going straight to 3rd as u mentioned. for example when shifting from 3rd to park u pressed the gate release from 3rd to park. the shifter should be "palmed" forward to the gate at reverse then the gate released by pressing the "gate release" to access reverse.
its a safety feature to prevent inadvertent selection of reverse while still moving forward. the reason there is no "gate" for 3rd is because inadvertent selection of 3rd will not cause transmission damage, whereas inadvertent selection of 2nd at too high a speed may.
sadly 90+% of drivers press the "gate release" every time they move the gear shift!
Apparently 80% of all land rovers ever made are still on the road. The other 20% made it home!
Now this was the first Disco II review I really followed from start to finish - interesting details, nice pace of explanation, good camera. Thumb up! I even learned a few tricks I didn't know about.
Great video thank you. I have a 1999 myself and I do love it.
I remember seeing plenty of these, back then, as a kid. Like the Toyota Land Cruiser, 4Runner, Lexus LX470s, and so many other SUVs made for beating up and off roading on top of the usual road trips, these trucks still hold up in terms of solid capability and durability if you look past gas mileage and robustness. I do like the cabin size, luxury, and utility of these all in one truck. Nostalgia!
As a daily driver of a Disco II, I thank you for posting this vid :) PS that 'super sneaky cubby' under the passenger seat was where the CD cartridge changer originally would have gone
As a driver of the same land rover I have never had a issue with shifting from P to D I have never shifted to 3rd by mistake. (And I am only 16 so I haven't driven that much compared to someone else)
Love the video and your Landie Tommy. Yours doesn't have active cornering I see. If you get a chance to drive one with Active Cornering ( ACE ) definitely do so. They totally transform the disco's on and off road. You are so very lucky to get the 4.6 V8 (It didn't come to Australia) but did to New Zealand weirdly. Originally it was going to be a Buick motor but after changing many parts on it to try to make it lighter Rover then decided to develop their own all aluminum 3528 cc V8 (So they say, but there was actually a BMW all aluminum V8 that happened to also be 3528 cc at the same time). In the mid 1980's it was slightly modified and was turned in to a 3528 cc V8 diesel, called Project Iceberg but never went into production because of manufacturing cost's. The motor was then redesigned in the early 1990's with the 3.9 V8 3947 cc and the 4.2 that appeared in your Range Rover Classic/County LWB (Long Wheel Base) (LSE) and then once agian with the 4.0 V8 and 4.6 V8 (4.6's were cross bolted and had a heavier block) and then were later redesigned again in the later 1990's with the Bosch infection system when British Aerospace sold JLR to BMW for 5 Pounds.
"I read all the comments, even the mean ones"-Tommy . Listen Thomas, don't ever let the haters get you down. You are doing what you love and you're good at it which is more than most people can say about themselves. Keep on going
The thin doorframe design dates back into 1970 when the Range Rover debuted. ;-)
In essence those doors are 1984 phase 2 Range Rover classic 4 door .. doors
The window frames suck. I guess they used to be easy to get and change out. The ones on our 03 are trashed,or 04 are fine. Kinda crazy
landrover window frames have always been narrow
very great review, your natural didn’t stumble one word and I watched the whole video in my attention span is 0.0. thanks! just got mine 2 days ago, excited!!
Big huge tires amazed me when I first bought it.The grip on highway is the secret.Very strong luxury car still to a nowadays
Just bought my first Disco II this weekend up in Sacramento, a 2001 edition. This video's been super helpful as I've been getting more acquainted with my new ride. Very excited! Thank you much! :)
Picking up a 2003 disco 2 with a blown motor
White SE with tan leather For 700$
The Body is in near perfect shape and it has no rot. Just gotta find a motor the ole girl.
i have owned multiple jeeps. I just fell in love with the 2000 - 2005 discovery for some reason. Something about it.
I read about LS swap kits being made for the Disco 2s... just something to think about. I would totally LS swap a Disco 2.
@@trentopinto5 www.alternativeconversion.com/product-page/land-rover-discovery-2-ls-conversion-kit
Drove a series 2 disco for years. Loved it. There is something special about it, besides its unreliability
God, I miss my Discos so much! I've had five; a Series 1, 2 Series 2s and 2 Series 3s. The all time favourite was the second Series 2; one of the last of the Series 2s when LR loaded it with toys. Took it overland from London through Europe into Turkey and down into the Syrian desert. Never missed a beat and supremely comfortable. Did you know that the interior design on the original Series 1 was done by Sir Terence Conran, founder of the Habitat chain of interior design stores? I now have a Freelander 2 (LR2), which is almost as much fun. Thanks for the nostalgia!
I love this car! I can see everything.
I believe some of those wood bits are aftermarket or dealer purchased kits. The only wood that my 04 Disco had was the strip above the glove box.
Fantastic vehicle. Same color as yours with the tan interior. It was the SE model with the larger wheels. I traded it in when it needed a bunch of engine work and the rear sunroof broke in the popped up position.
I would definitely buy one again as a second "fun" vehicle.
just picked up my first disco 2 here in Australia, cant wait to pop my first head gasket!
Keep the cooling system spotlessly clean internally and rad free of debris, never tow a trailer, have more than one passenger, load it with more than a packed lunch and you should be OK.
How much do you earn at Toyota?
I get anxiety when I see the green m or s lights from all the times mines gone into limp mode with those lights flashing... love these things
Contemplating purchasing a 2001, tell me more about the limp mode and what causes it? Thanks
Also the only one that has a descent mileage or reliable engine isn’t available in US the diesel model with a stick.
Well done demo, Tommy! Great job with this!
they are reliable if it breaks its easy to fix better than my shogun
What a terrific review! Luvvit. You blokes did very well covering most aspects of the vehicle and I quite enjoyed perving at a nice NAS Disco 2. Note: the 2nd row seats are slightly further forward than in the Disco 1 in order to provide more room in the rear for the forward-facing 3rd row seats (side-facing in Disco 1’s) and to offer more luggage space in the rear. The rear overhang was also increased slightly to afford the above mentioned space improvements. Anyway, I’m gonna go back and rewatch the vid coz it was so good. Cheers fellas.
Great essay Tommy. Isn't it a pity that with a name and heritage like Land Rover has, that they can't produce one that will be mostly trouble free and last for years?
Reg Sparkes 😂😂 it’s all about the journey right? Disco drivers see plenty of roadside scenery.
they did make a trouble free one, the original landrovers were amazing bits of kit if you had the optional free wheeling hubs and enjoyed a bumpy ride
@@leighmackay9192 Yes, they sure did Leigh,..my brother in law, had one, a Series 11A with gasoline engine, this was in the late 1960's into the early 70's.
He and my sister with their four children, would tow his 18 foot Caravan ( camping trailer ) all over our Province here in Canada during summer vacations. His first one was the short wheel base model and it did have free-wheeling hubs on it too.
He must have really enjoyed his Land Rover's because he went on to buy two or three more and ended up with the Range Rover model.
buy a toyota, wuss
This had strong Doug Demuro energy. Without the cringe factor. This brothet is a natural though not taking anything away from his presentation, just comparing him to the best.
The visibility is surprisingly good in the drivers seat. My neighbor has one of these as a secondary vehicle the damn thing won’t die.
@7:55 ive had my disco for 3 years and i still put it in 3rd on accident every single day
Great review, but he failed to reveal the fact that the new engine in the 03-04 has fatal issue from the factory. It has oil pump issue and it will need costly lifters job on regular basis. Often there are ads selling those mention "it just have a new header replaced"
You forgot the heated windshield!
Fixed mine and its is AMAZING. -27celsius - full frozen windshield - turn it on - wait 2minutes and just WIPE ice off - truly amazing however quite a power hog xD
The best feature of these cars, at least high spec European
ones was the ACE anti roll system, it was like a different car. Would be nice to see a recap of that.
From a Landy owner I approve this message ...and for those talk about reliability I come to from jeep brand and both brand have a big list of problems so don't come and say jeep is better because 12 year ago I was driving a jeep commander and was like 17 issue to fix and then I switch to Land Rover LR series but also the best Jeep I own was a ZJ Grand Cherokee in red with 6 inline but died from the Transmission...both brand have is own history but if you tale me what brand you used to cross the Amazon's. Hand up with a Land Rover LR3 stock with snorkel , 18 BF T/A ,Roof tent, m4 rifle for the free of the bold eagle country and all kind of groceries,rope with chain,winch, and the list continue..why I don't select jeep. because is small and never make a full camel trophy event.think about that.
I think all off road-based vehicles have their own unique problems. I once had an ex-friend who had a 2002 Land Rover Discovery Series II Kalahari Special Edition and that thing has been in the shop so many times to the point where the cost to repair the vehicle doubled with the original price of the vehicle itself. (Broken engine lifters, leaking transmission, poor mpg, stuck 4WD shifter lever, leaking coolant, etc..) Premium gas and because it had a 3 inch lift and 33's, average mpg in the city was 7 mpg. Yep. On expensive premium fuel. Now I'm not saying that Jeeps are better either because they're really not. (I say that as a Jeep owner myself). All off road vehicles have their pros and especially their cons. You just choose which cons you love and want to deal with 🤗 I personally love my Jeep despite her quirky reliability here and then
Same for me. I've had a fair number of ZJs and WJs and none of them were more reliable than my Rover. (I've had a CJ5 but that's apples and oranges.) I also love my Rover a million times more than any Jeep I've had. The only thing I miss from my Jeep days is the steering. Jeeps (ZJ, WJ, XJ) do have a better steering system.
Not to mention, Jeeps are now made by Fix It Again Tony, Fiat. 🔧
Ganbala , great , now try Japanese trucks
I have been wanting to buy one of these for years now and this just makes me want to buy one even more. Yeah I know reliability can be an issue but I'm already so infatuated with these trucks that I'm willing to take it with whatever flaws it has. I already have so many plans and ideas in my head I'm just so ready to take on new adventures.
i have a 2004 LR with 64k miles, was sitting for years but im excited to get it running again!
Fun fact! He LR4 and LR3 also have removable cup holder and removable inserts in them 👌😄
I think the wheel chocks are needed more on the discovery 2 than other land rovers especially the earlier ones, you should always engage the centre diff lock when jacking the vehicle otherwise it would roll away!
Obviously most disco 2 never had the centre diff lick so chocking the wheels is really a must!
The cup holders were designed specifically for the US because of your insanely sized drinks. Everywhere else in the world came out with the standard pop out holders under the HVAC controls.
The wheel nuts are actually really cool. One of them is actually a cover for a lock-nut which LandRover supplied a tool to remove said cover which from memory was signified by having an indent in the cover so you would know what One had the lock-but under it.
I got a. 2001 and I love it
Me too. Bought it new in 01.
Would really like to see a comparison to a similar year Land Cruiser...especially off-road.
Manual mode is so underrated and effective!!! Amazing for its day
The wood looks better when you have the full dash kit like mine came with. Its just a wood veneer. Also I would suggest putting the bottle jack back in. A high lift is great, but if you just need to change a tire. The bottle jack and a block of wood is way safer and faster. My Discovery is lifted 4" with 34's and i still use the bottle jack to change tires. You also didnt talk about ACE. Im guessing your D2 didnt come with it. Definitely worth mentioning when talking about D2 features.
Also the SLS was unique to this type of vehicle.
we have a 2000 Disco II and I agree that it's highly unusual, but if you can find someone with an early 90's Mitsubishi Montero, I would highly recommend checking it out.
I've had close to a dozen full size montero's and I love them, but I can't find them any more and the prices are creeping up so I'm considering purchasing one of these
I have a 2003 Range Rover Discovery. I use it to go up a horse trail to get to our cabin in the mountains. I may use it two or three times a year. Maybe 60 to 70 miles per year. It is truly a great vehicle. Because I do not use it all the time. I have a hard time getting my vehicle through emission. In the State of Maryland if a vehicle is 20 yrs. old it can be classified as a classic vehicle. The Motor Vehicle think I am attempting to get over because I can't pass emission. I believe my car deserves to be a classic because it is such a wonderful vehicle. I really love my old Range Rover. Thanks
Is there a video about the mods you've done to it? It looks just about perfect
"THIS IS NO 'STARTER CAR'!!"
I bought a wrecked one for my first car😂 where can I get parts in the us
I had a 2000 TD5 auto, great car, only sold it after 5 years because the engine had been modified and it did 17 miles per gallon if you were careful
I just got a 2000 Disco from my aunt as my first car. It needs a lot of work but I’m excited
Nice one Tommy. In the UK market at least the small access panel under the drivers seat was to give access to the CD multichanger. Not really much use as cubby.
Have owned two, 2000 manual TD5 with CDL that I hooked up a electric door lock motor to switch on and off.. blew the big end bearing.. Then bought a 2002 TD5 automatic with traction control and loved it, tough dog suspension, hybrid turbo cartridge and ecu tune.... Blew the head.. ha ha.. So researching options to fix..
I have a 2000 TD5. Officially, the worst car I have ever bought. 3 engines, 3 heads, 4 head gaskets, and everything else. The list is too long to mention. A lot of stuff just wears out so has to be replaced. A lot of other stuff reliability stuff is down to idiot drivers. Myself included.
Do not buy one of these unless you like to tinker. I didn't want to tinker but I have had no
choice.
Anyway, after saying all that, this Disco is the most charismatic, useful, versatile vehicle I have ever had. A bit like an old Labrador, not good on corners, poo's on your lawn, eats you of house
and home, but, is always warm and welcoming and sits there with its big eyes, and, its tongue
hanging out, and you just have to love it!
3 engines, 3 heads and 4 head gaskets. I think you're doing something wrong, or maybe you're doing something right and having too much fun. Mine has done 415,000kms first engine, with one head change.
23 years later....my D2 is still my 'daily' driver with almost 145k miles. Daily is in quotes because I leave home in my company service truck so I don't really have to drive any of my other vehicles 'daily'. For such an 'unreliable' vehicle my D2 has never left me stranded or broke down. Aside from regular maintenance items and the occasional wheel sensor going bad causing the infamous tres amigos it's been pretty good. The worst thing being the rear air bags, the rubber getting old, cracking and causing an air leak. I have always been jealous of the 04' owners with their fancy lights and factory CDL actuator. I have a spare 02' 6.0L Vortec work truck and lately I've been thinking of using it as a donor for an LS swap 🤔