Funnily enough, your information on Lewyn's survival isn't quite correct. According to one of the *many* title screen interludes, Lewyn was literally brought back by the god Holsety himself. Lewyn is only in gen 2 by literal divine intervention.
Lewyn's possession by Forseti is a weird story. The stuff Lewyn says to Seliph sounds like the things he'd say to Sigurd in the past but at the same time, he's also nullified of most of his emotions. He can't go back to Silesse probably because Forseti will leave Lewyn's body so he entrusts his position as king to Ced. What would happen after Forseti left his body would be unclear as Lewyn would either drop dead or return back to his senses.
@@partyharry7585 only in Thracia, Sacred Stones and Birthright (also Conquest if you reclass Mozu) is a woman archer at the start of the game, Shadow Dragon has Gordin, Gaiden/Echoes archers are male exclusive, Mystery of the Emblem you have Gordin again and his brother Ryan, in Binding Blade you have Wolt, Wil in Blazing Sword, Virion in Awakening, Niles in Conquest and in Three Houses everyone can be an archer.
Things I've taken away from this series: i) Wizards are usually bad news 2) The mighiest heroes of each land are all between 16-17 years old 3) You can catch members of a royal family as easily as a cold
I love how you mentioned the optional replacements for the children, didn't mention killing bosses that could be avoided, and didn't handle too many unnecessary details
Damn sigurds part of the story is so damn tragic, in his attempt to do good he lost everything, and in the end, he didn't get the happy ending he deserved
Oh boy, you're playing Thracia next. Be warned, that game is absolutely merciless to blind players. But it's also one of the most mechanically complex and interesting of them all. Great work on this video. I tried to get into Genealogy a couple of times, but there was always something that put me off. Chapter 2 in particular kinda broke me with its intended path of progression. Seeing such a passionate and thoughtful analysis of it helps me understand why this game is so beloved, even if I just can't seem to get into it myself. I'm really looking forward to seeing how you tackle Thracia now.
I think Thracia is one of the worst games in the franchise. I find that people give it too much of a pass for being difficult, and while some of the innovations are cool like capture, stealing weapons, having no money and fatigue, it easily has the absolute worst mechanics in the series that allows the player to break the game like PCC, laughably broken skills and weapons, movement stars and all-20 caps. On repeat playthroughs, I do find most other games in the series easy even on the hardest difficulty, but I don't think Thracia is the right kind of difficulty, because it feels like you are meant to use every exploit from your first playthrough rather than picking up on them by yourself.
I have to agree that when playing blind, you'll be absolutely curb stomped with just how merciless it can be. However, the difficulty is a charm in itself that actually works well with Leif's journey. Most of the time, you're escaping from an actual threat whether it be Galzus or the seemingly infinite number of reinforcements. The enemies are much more threatening, and the challenges (that can be optional) can be so difficult that it's fair not to attempt to overcome unless the player has had a second playthrough or more. So in other words, to win then the player has to be like Leif. Not as good as those with more experience, feeling the loss of comrades that wished to serve your cause, and best of all to have the determination to overcome overwhelming odds. I think that's cool in itself. The first playthrough is always the toughest. There's no hand holding. There's no guarantee that you'd get all the best items or all the available recruitable characters. There's not even a guarantee that all your characters will survive. However, in the back of one's mind, one would play again just to make sure they saved that one character, steal every single one of Reinhardt's weapons, or making a meme unit like Ronan into an absolute beast despite being an infantry. The second playthrough, after learning the requirements for certain recruitments and to efficiently play the game after knowing more, it gets a lot easier. Thracia 776 is a typical "Nintendo Hard" game. Where it's only through past experiences does it make the game a little easier yet still challenging regardless.
Man, having come from the newer fire emblems (all the gba ones, POR, RD, and 3 houses), FE4 is a game that was way ahead of its time. There are so many possibilities and different outcomes compared to even the newer games. It's hard having come from the GBA fire emblems due to the fear of missing out on making the best characters. The GBA games were so simple and easy compared to FE 4. It's really stressful, but I'm going to just play it without a care so that I can enjoy it.
This is the most pleasant surprise TH-cam recommended has ever given me lol. Keep up the great work man. Gonna binge watch these when i get home from work. =)
While Gen 1 was the peak of the story, it still set up some great plot-threads to explore in Gen 2, like Leif having to reunite with his abducted sister, and the tragic irony that Seliph will have to fight his own brother to prevent Loptyr's revival. There's plenty of QOA improvements a remake can bring to the experience, but this game still holds up surprisingly well.
Sigurd was great because he was a deconstruction of the typical Fire Emblem Protagonist (Along with being as far as I see, the ONLY playable Cornelius character! Cornelius being Marth's father and the trend setter of the "your dad/mom/parental figure" dies for the Lord's character development trope! Jeralt is only playable in 3Hopes which is a spin-off so that doesn't count! and Chrom doesn't die, it's his first timeline self that is the Cornelius; I Really want a Playable Cornelius like Sigurd again! Really hope Intelligent does so in a future Emblem after Engage! This is saying this UNDER the assumption the next one isn't a FE4 remake like the rumors and leak suggest) while Seliph is a reconstruction of the Trope! Seliph works BECAUSE of the groundwork set by Sigurd and Gen 1! I mean really, the shock that you LOSE and the villains actually win and rule till Seliph grows up was a BIG surprise and enhances the story because of it! Especially as unlike the usual! We the player are more SAVVY to the plot points then Seliph because to Seliph, it would be the "Beginning of his story/game"....but to us it's just the mid point POSING as a Game Start! Plus Seliph is abit more grounded then his Father! Which is what is suppose to make the "Deconstruction/Reconstruction" work as Seliph is doing his best to AVOID the mistakes Sigurd made in Gen 1. Sigurd's really exciting because of those flaws, while Seliph can come off as "boring" because he's playing it safe! But that's pretty realistic, no one is going to want to follow the failure of their predeccessors! If a remake is incoming, I hope they enhance on these's themes more!
@JohnDoe-kn7ex That Archetype was already established so....WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT! But em I wrong, Cornelius was the father of the hero, previous wielder of the legendary weapon the hero will use later as it was taken by the bad guy's AFTER they backstabbing and betrayed the Cornelius! The hero avenges his Cornelius father by killing the one who did the backstabbing (In Marth's case Jiol, in Seliph, Arvis). If it quacks its a duck my man! Sigurd the first half of the game might as well be you Playing Cornelius up till his end. Now if I said their was an archetype for XANE, you'd have a case of "making an Archetype for everything!" But tell me how not "A single parent of the hero or one who might as well be a Hero (Hey Liliana) was some badass before they got offended by a villain!" (Those like Joshua from SS don't count as he's not a main character, hell he can be dead by the time you reach that point of the story and it wouldn't affect the main story in any fashion") Me wonders where this reply came from? (intentions) as I don't think I was saying anything "that wasn't established before I even said it!" Plus does that mean "YOUR not a Fire Emblem fan" then WTF are you doing on a FE video...why even reply? 🤔 I'm now even more curious about you then I am FE now!🤓
Wow, the streams were awesome. I can tell this video was made with a lot of love and effort. Thank you again shane for an amazing FE retrospective video. Keep up the amazing work and i will pray for you when you play FE5.
The reason cavalry is considered so broken is because the vast majority of games in the series (basically the first half of the franchise) are actually pretty dang easy once you know what you're doing, so even in games where cavalry _do_ have lower stats than foot units (this is not a hard and fast rule), once you've gotten good enough at the game that you don't _need_ higher stat units to get past obstacles, the sheer speed at which mounted units can "get shit done" simply renders foot units at a major disadvantage in high-level play.
I feel like mounted units are alright at the state they are, is just that the tier lists and the general conception heavily favors ltc runs It's the same reason why armor knights are consider bad even though most regular players won't mind their biggest weaknesses like their low movement
Thanks so much for the video! The translation I had when I played was... let's just say not the best. I've read some summaries of what happened to fill in the gaps, but your telling of it from start to finish was much more satisfying. I'm also so happy to hear how much you enjoyed it! This is probably my favorite fire emblem game so far.
Great video. Loved the content and glad to be a supporter of it. It's amazing to see how clearly the early FE games succeeded and improved on each other and were refinements of Kaga's vision. It's super cool. I'd like to imagine he was proud. I remember loading up a ROM of Genealogy of the Holy War (no translation) and just being blown away at the sheer scale of the map. That's the one thing I never forgot. Modern FE is comparatively so scaled down - it'd be crazy to see a new Fire Emblem that brought the scale back to this game's level. Speaking of Modern FE, I'm in love with Three Houses now, and when you started talking about the "Holy Blood" and the image of the Holy Blood crest-wheel came on screen I nearly did a spit-take. The steelbook and artbook both heavily focus on a very similar image to represent the Goddess Sothis and the 10 Heroes' Crests.
there actually is another similarities between the two wheels, in that there is one more holy blood/crest hidden in the middle Loptous in FE4 and the Creator in FE16
I see I'm not the only one who saw the Brave Bow as Leif's legendary weapon. This is a fantastic video, it's nice to go through the story in one block, as I had difficulty following back when I played FE4.
There's an extremely good counter for horse Canto you didn't know. In every case against groups of horses, there's a place on the map with a lot of trees. Forests completely negate enemy Canto.
Woo! Fe4 is such a great trip! But now on to thracia with the wonderful exile patch just finished too! Fe5 is similar in some ways, but can be a bit rough blind. Still great tho!
I started playing the emulated fan translation of this game, and feel bad that I bounced off of it as hard as I did. The arena grind and large maps just made everything feel incredibly slow to a point that has made it hard to push through. I would love to see the story of this game given the modern Echoes treatment to adjust some of the gameplay ideas to more modern sensibilities and giving the story the space to breath it deserves. I would play an Echoes remake of this game in an instant.
Yeah thats the problem. I was stoked for the echoes remake because it would be such a improvement to playability, but fanboys for this one forget alot that is true for the series til gba era. And this games og is tedious af and needs QoL improvements significantly.
One of the coolest things about this game is the fact that you seize EVERY SINGLE CASTLE IN JUGDRAL. So you see that huge map and thinks "boy, that's a lot of places to go" and you just go there and get them all.
They aren't just castles mind you, they're castle towns. Since you literally play on the entire map, every castle is a town. That's why they all have the "go to town" option. If they do remake genealogy, they need to take the battalions from 3 houses and add them into the game, even if it's just cosmetic. Really show the scale of everything. The largest maps in the series. If each character was leading a battalion into battle on top of that... that's literally perfect.
I heard so many good things about this game, I'm glad you have some negatives to say. This game needs a remake because it as some seriously broken systems.
I started this game on my phone after having played later fire emblem games for years. The idea of having to move that many units so far across each map was what stopped me from playing after the first chapter. Glad to watch this though, it certainly filled me in on some important moments in gaming.
Wow, I really enjoyed this video. I personally haven't played FE 1-3 yet (halfway through FE1 right now) so I'm not going to watch your other videos on them yet to save myself the spoilers, but I HAVE played FE 4-8 so I can't wait to see how you interpret these games. Subscribed for sure and can't wait for the next one.
"No one will survive 12 concective attacks in this game except Sigure" Shanon : Am I a joke to you ? Amazing video, few things to add : -Maybe you knew this later after the upload , - Spoiler the ending - Lewyn in 2nd generation is not the man you think he is. Search in TH-cam : "All Opening Scenes Fire Emblem Genealogy Of The Holy War " , these you were supposed to unlock each after replaying the game set amount of times. Only in here you will know excatly what actually happened to Lewyn. This would explains why Lewyn acted way out of charecter espicially to Ced + that one last conversation between Silph and Lewyn at the ending , little Silph knew it somehow. - In chapter one, there is a hidden conversation if you did not let Sigure pass throgh the forset preventing Deirdre from spawning. Take down the castle and you will get an intresting dialogue.
To add to the game of thrones similarities, both have a sprawling continent ruled by an incestuous dynasty of light haired people who claim to have some relation to dragons, the main protagonists of the latter generation is the wayward son of an honorable leader who is the rightful heir of a kingdom and has an unknowing relative in the form of a strange light haired girl with magic royal lineage who has an abusive brother and wanders the world, and the protagonist of the first generation has a dead sister married to his best friend. Well Lyanna wasn’t actually married to Robert but it’s essentially the same ida.
TH-cam recommended your channel to me and I have to say your Retrospectives are fantastic! You do a fantastic job of giving an unbiased look at these games , and I am for it. You have earned yourself a new subscriber and I am highly looking forward to watching/listening to the remainder of your FE Retrospectives whilst I work. Keep up the fantastic work, and thank you for the fantastic content!
Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War is represented in Super Smash Bros Ultimate by means of four Spirits (Sigurd, Deirdre, Seliph, and Julius) and one music track (“Edge of Adversity”).
23:40 Iconic... Even though I’ve yet to play Fe4, this was still a really entertaining video. I’m honestly surprised you barely talked about how supposedly-broken Sigurd is as a unit though. Lol
Mount= high move Good bases Good growths Is promoted but still get exp like unpromotes Gets a "PRF" thats super broken and forever usuable, Can be pasted down and given to under units Can tank Can 1-Round
Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War was originally released late in my sophomore year of high school. I was 16 and a half years old at the time. The game was first heard of outside Japan during the GameCube era. I caught wind of the game in 2003. Genealogy of the Holy War was first represented outside Japan through Fire Emblem Awakening. It’s currently known in the West through Fire Emblem Heroes. When I think about Fire Emblem, this game often comes to my mind. In 2004, as I played through this game extensively, Ayra overtook Samus Aran as my favorite Nintendo character.
High Quality Fire Emblem Content 0 People disagree. Dope video dawg. Edit: The rest of the Retrospective is great too. Looking forward to future videos.
I actually stopped the video and played Genealogy before continuing. Wow. Just wow. Probably my favorite story of any Fire Emblem game, and the characters! Gonna have to do the same for Thracia 776. But at least I can watch this retrospective now!
I bought the Japanese version of this game for super famicon and it will be my first ever fire emblem game I’ve played. I’ve always wanted to get into the series on DS and 3ds but I feel this will be the perfect introduction.
The best Fire Emblem game ever made, hopefully they do a 100% faithful remaster with a few QoL improvements... Also, I wish they keep the same 2D style they had here. Awesome video by the way :D
I personally prefer the Canto(r) ability in Engage. It's still Over powered as heck, but since it's an unlockable skill you get from Sigurd (ironically enough), it means you have to spend resources on getting it. Further more, it just adds 2 movement after an attack, no matter how far you moved. Lastly, you are limited to only two equipped skills, which means you have to sacrifice something. Unless you sync with Sigurd, which grants you Canto for free, but you are then limited to one character, and only as long as you have Sigurd of course.
I just finished playing this game for the first time and came to check out your retrospective, and overall I think you nailed it, but I disagree about the lovers. You say that the optimal way to play in terms of gaining love point is to spend the first 50 turns having your units stand next to each other, but other than chapter 8 I completed every map in the game in under 50 turns and every woman in my army ended up with a lover (often times a really good one), and I also played blindly with no idea of who good pairings were. I ended up with Holyn/Ayra, Erin/Lewyn, Midir/Bridgit, Aideen/Jamke, and Sylvia/Alec which all seemed to be pretty good pairings and that's without ever spending turns just having units wait together ( other than throughout the maps in general, for example Holyn and Ayra were an easy pair because having the same move meant they'd just always be standing together). Just a thought.
Not gonna lie, it's always an emotional train when your whole squad literally gets wiped for the sake of plot... _Think of all the time spent leveling them carefully, the character building and build-up..._ Oh yeah, I look forward to playing this for sure.
Leveling up DOES pay off in the second generation, so don't be bummed by the plot twist. Second gen characters are godly compared to the first gen ones, which make the vengeance all the more satisfying.
Yeah, I think it's a decent game to start out on. The only issue is that it isn't really representative of the rest of the series, but it may appeal to you because of that if you haven't finished any of the others.
I feel like such a weirdo for not liking this game. It seems unanimously loved but I find it extremely frustrating. The story was pretty great but that alone can't salvage gameplay that infuriates me.
Don't worry, I'm not a big fan of this one either. I tried to get into it multiple times, but the slower pace, gigantic maps, and frequent swarms of enemies are annoying. Incidentally, if Nintendo makes a new Echoes game, I feel like FE4 here would be the perfect candidate. They fixed a lot of problems with the original Gaiden, after all. For the most part!
This game can be brutal and a proper “lesson” to those used to games where death doesn’t matter like Final Fantasy. You can get away with soloing up until Arion in Thracia. If you don’t protect or train Julia... you also might not finish the game on the second try.
I mean all you need to do is level up julia one time and you win. The naga tome is so busted that it's almost impossible to beat the game without. Almost.
57:34 Or Finn, or Quan (Gae Bolg gaming), Leif, Altenna (Gae Bolg gaming), Ares (Mystletain gaming), Lewyn (Forsetti gaming), Ced (Lewyn 2.0), or Arthur (Lewyn on a Horse)
hey guys i could use some help! im trying to run Genealogy on snes9x, using the eng patch he linked us (project naga) but it just gets stuck on the start screen!
Project Naga has two available patches, one for a headered rom, the other for unheadered. Be very sure whether the rom you aquired is one or the other and use the appropriate patch.
After having played and watched a lets play of this game, I sincerely don't get most of the love for the first gen's story. I'm not calling it bad, just not the peak of the series.
Rewatching this after finishing FE4 yesterday. Like you said, the most impactful scene was Gen 1's end. I just noticed something. At 46:06 you have Midir instead of Erin lol. Lewyn can romance Midir lmao.
Y’all keep saying Thracia is gonna be super hard to blind players. It’ll be fine, the translations will likely tell all that is necessary. Mechanics are explained fine, people complaining about that don’t read anything in game clearly. Hell I barely do and I was fine, in fact Thracia is the best game ever made (even beating ocarina of time)
Okay this one was tricky to follow becuse so many of the characters looks the same. I could not tell the difference between who you play at the start and later. But it sounded like a complex story about kings and rulers.
Wait wait wait....did he not go over the incredibly unique substitute unit system in this?? It’s not much, just a group of mostly statistically weaker units, but still.
I can't believe you showed Leif's iconic, classic, legendary silver bow
what the hell was that though fr
@@joaquindonadell3056 ah so its a stream meme. makes sense i wouldn't get it.
it might as well be a crusader weapon
@Porter Justin WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE????
All I can think about when I see iconic and classic is Smiling Friends
I finally understand the "Rayson can dance 4 people at a time? Looking like genealogy" joke.
lol bismix
Funnily enough, your information on Lewyn's survival isn't quite correct. According to one of the *many* title screen interludes, Lewyn was literally brought back by the god Holsety himself. Lewyn is only in gen 2 by literal divine intervention.
Even Gods pick favorites. Holsety has good taste. I too would revive Lewyn or Finn if Finn ever died.
Lewyn's possession by Forseti is a weird story. The stuff Lewyn says to Seliph sounds like the things he'd say to Sigurd in the past but at the same time, he's also nullified of most of his emotions. He can't go back to Silesse probably because Forseti will leave Lewyn's body so he entrusts his position as king to Ced. What would happen after Forseti left his body would be unclear as Lewyn would either drop dead or return back to his senses.
@@henrygutierrez3243 I'd resurrect Arden just to be a dick
@@GamesBrained Good choice:)
@@GamesBrained Y Not Sigurd?
46:06 lol i went through 3 chapters without realising Midir was a guy... his portrait is so deceiving.
@@partyharry7585 only in Thracia, Sacred Stones and Birthright (also Conquest if you reclass Mozu) is a woman archer at the start of the game, Shadow Dragon has Gordin, Gaiden/Echoes archers are male exclusive, Mystery of the Emblem you have Gordin again and his brother Ryan, in Binding Blade you have Wolt, Wil in Blazing Sword, Virion in Awakening, Niles in Conquest and in Three Houses everyone can be an archer.
Things I've taken away from this series:
i) Wizards are usually bad news
2) The mighiest heroes of each land are all between 16-17 years old
3) You can catch members of a royal family as easily as a cold
I think Sigurd is implied to be a bit older than that.
23:39 ICONIC!
Legendary™
I did not know Leif had an iconic silver bow🤔🤔
I was looking for this.
You know this video reminds me of Genealogy of the Holy War
Me too
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I love how you mentioned the optional replacements for the children, didn't mention killing bosses that could be avoided, and didn't handle too many unnecessary details
Damn sigurds part of the story is so damn tragic, in his attempt to do good he lost everything, and in the end, he didn't get the happy ending he deserved
Oh boy, you're playing Thracia next. Be warned, that game is absolutely merciless to blind players. But it's also one of the most mechanically complex and interesting of them all.
Great work on this video. I tried to get into Genealogy a couple of times, but there was always something that put me off. Chapter 2 in particular kinda broke me with its intended path of progression. Seeing such a passionate and thoughtful analysis of it helps me understand why this game is so beloved, even if I just can't seem to get into it myself. I'm really looking forward to seeing how you tackle Thracia now.
I think Thracia is one of the worst games in the franchise. I find that people give it too much of a pass for being difficult, and while some of the innovations are cool like capture, stealing weapons, having no money and fatigue, it easily has the absolute worst mechanics in the series that allows the player to break the game like PCC, laughably broken skills and weapons, movement stars and all-20 caps. On repeat playthroughs, I do find most other games in the series easy even on the hardest difficulty, but I don't think Thracia is the right kind of difficulty, because it feels like you are meant to use every exploit from your first playthrough rather than picking up on them by yourself.
I have to agree that when playing blind, you'll be absolutely curb stomped with just how merciless it can be.
However, the difficulty is a charm in itself that actually works well with Leif's journey.
Most of the time, you're escaping from an actual threat whether it be Galzus or the seemingly infinite number of reinforcements.
The enemies are much more threatening, and the challenges (that can be optional) can be so difficult that it's fair not to attempt to overcome unless the player has had a second playthrough or more.
So in other words, to win then the player has to be like Leif.
Not as good as those with more experience, feeling the loss of comrades that wished to serve your cause, and best of all to have the determination to overcome overwhelming odds.
I think that's cool in itself.
The first playthrough is always the toughest. There's no hand holding. There's no guarantee that you'd get all the best items or all the available recruitable characters. There's not even a guarantee that all your characters will survive.
However, in the back of one's mind, one would play again just to make sure they saved that one character, steal every single one of Reinhardt's weapons, or making a meme unit like Ronan into an absolute beast despite being an infantry.
The second playthrough, after learning the requirements for certain recruitments and to efficiently play the game after knowing more, it gets a lot easier.
Thracia 776 is a typical "Nintendo Hard" game. Where it's only through past experiences does it make the game a little easier yet still challenging regardless.
@@simondupuis8372 I'm a masochist and live for good Fire Emblem difficulty. I beat Lunatic Conquest. I'll beat Thracia.
He should play it blind. I played it blind and was fine.
Guys, by the time you've seen this retrospective, he'd have already finished Thracia.
23:38 Leif's Iconic Silver Bow. Shane watches Chaz Aria Confimed
He does indeed. Chaz was going to make a guest appearance in this video, but stuff came up.
@@henrygutierrez3243 oh so you heard about that. I haven't said anything
@@GamesBrained I did hear about that. I believe you may have briefly mentioned it sometime and then forgotten.
@@henrygutierrez3243 That sounds likely tbh
Didnt it turn out it wasn’t true or something
Everyone talking about Leif's bow
We gonna mention the epic Finn who literally raised him
Man, having come from the newer fire emblems (all the gba ones, POR, RD, and 3 houses), FE4 is a game that was way ahead of its time. There are so many possibilities and different outcomes compared to even the newer games. It's hard having come from the GBA fire emblems due to the fear of missing out on making the best characters. The GBA games were so simple and easy compared to FE 4. It's really stressful, but I'm going to just play it without a care so that I can enjoy it.
This is the most pleasant surprise TH-cam recommended has ever given me lol. Keep up the great work man. Gonna binge watch these when i get home from work. =)
While Gen 1 was the peak of the story, it still set up some great plot-threads to explore in Gen 2, like Leif having to reunite with his abducted sister, and the tragic irony that Seliph will have to fight his own brother to prevent Loptyr's revival.
There's plenty of QOA improvements a remake can bring to the experience, but this game still holds up surprisingly well.
Sigurd was great because he was a deconstruction of the typical Fire Emblem Protagonist (Along with being as far as I see, the ONLY playable Cornelius character! Cornelius being Marth's father and the trend setter of the "your dad/mom/parental figure" dies for the Lord's character development trope! Jeralt is only playable in 3Hopes which is a spin-off so that doesn't count! and Chrom doesn't die, it's his first timeline self that is the Cornelius; I Really want a Playable Cornelius like Sigurd again! Really hope Intelligent does so in a future Emblem after Engage! This is saying this UNDER the assumption the next one isn't a FE4 remake like the rumors and leak suggest) while Seliph is a reconstruction of the Trope! Seliph works BECAUSE of the groundwork set by Sigurd and Gen 1! I mean really, the shock that you LOSE and the villains actually win and rule till Seliph grows up was a BIG surprise and enhances the story because of it! Especially as unlike the usual! We the player are more SAVVY to the plot points then Seliph because to Seliph, it would be the "Beginning of his story/game"....but to us it's just the mid point POSING as a Game Start! Plus Seliph is abit more grounded then his Father! Which is what is suppose to make the "Deconstruction/Reconstruction" work as Seliph is doing his best to AVOID the mistakes Sigurd made in Gen 1. Sigurd's really exciting because of those flaws, while Seliph can come off as "boring" because he's playing it safe! But that's pretty realistic, no one is going to want to follow the failure of their predeccessors!
If a remake is incoming, I hope they enhance on these's themes more!
@@paulman34340Calling a dead parent a “Cornelius” archetype is proof that Fire Emblem fans will turn anything into an archetype.
@JohnDoe-kn7ex That Archetype was already established so....WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!
But em I wrong, Cornelius was the father of the hero, previous wielder of the legendary weapon the hero will use later as it was taken by the bad guy's AFTER they backstabbing and betrayed the Cornelius! The hero avenges his Cornelius father by killing the one who did the backstabbing (In Marth's case Jiol, in Seliph, Arvis).
If it quacks its a duck my man! Sigurd the first half of the game might as well be you Playing Cornelius up
till his end.
Now if I said their was an archetype for XANE, you'd have a case of "making an Archetype for everything!" But tell me how not "A single parent of the hero or one who might as well be a Hero (Hey Liliana) was some badass before they got offended by a villain!" (Those like Joshua from SS don't count as he's not a main character, hell he can be dead by the time you reach that point of the story and it wouldn't affect the main story in any fashion")
Me wonders where this reply came from? (intentions) as I don't think I was saying anything "that wasn't established before I even said it!" Plus does that mean "YOUR not a Fire Emblem fan" then WTF are you doing on a FE video...why even reply? 🤔 I'm now even more curious about you then I am FE now!🤓
Wow, the streams were awesome. I can tell this video was made with a lot of love and effort. Thank you again shane for an amazing FE retrospective video. Keep up the amazing work and i will pray for you when you play FE5.
I'm here to understand who's Sigurd and his emblem rings
edit: i'm hella sad now
Yeah, Welcome to the club
The reason cavalry is considered so broken is because the vast majority of games in the series (basically the first half of the franchise) are actually pretty dang easy once you know what you're doing, so even in games where cavalry _do_ have lower stats than foot units (this is not a hard and fast rule), once you've gotten good enough at the game that you don't _need_ higher stat units to get past obstacles, the sheer speed at which mounted units can "get shit done" simply renders foot units at a major disadvantage in high-level play.
I feel like mounted units are alright at the state they are, is just that the tier lists and the general conception heavily favors ltc runs
It's the same reason why armor knights are consider bad even though most regular players won't mind their biggest weaknesses like their low movement
Though if you want a class that actually does need a buff look no further than the archers, 2~3 range should be the norm
Yeah but no one should give a damn about speed
I see what you did there, adding Midir to Lewyn´s harem of hot women.
Is that FE4 content? It's been 9000 years.
is that a DBZ pun?
This game and the sequel had the best stories if you ask me, the world feels realllly fleshed out
Thanks so much for the video! The translation I had when I played was... let's just say not the best. I've read some summaries of what happened to fill in the gaps, but your telling of it from start to finish was much more satisfying. I'm also so happy to hear how much you enjoyed it! This is probably my favorite fire emblem game so far.
Great video. Loved the content and glad to be a supporter of it.
It's amazing to see how clearly the early FE games succeeded and improved on each other and were refinements of Kaga's vision. It's super cool. I'd like to imagine he was proud.
I remember loading up a ROM of Genealogy of the Holy War (no translation) and just being blown away at the sheer scale of the map. That's the one thing I never forgot. Modern FE is comparatively so scaled down - it'd be crazy to see a new Fire Emblem that brought the scale back to this game's level.
Speaking of Modern FE, I'm in love with Three Houses now, and when you started talking about the "Holy Blood" and the image of the Holy Blood crest-wheel came on screen I nearly did a spit-take. The steelbook and artbook both heavily focus on a very similar image to represent the Goddess Sothis and the 10 Heroes' Crests.
there actually is another similarities between the two wheels, in that there is one more holy blood/crest hidden in the middle
Loptous in FE4 and the Creator in FE16
i love these videos so much, they're always so in-depth.
can't wait for 5, i love your channel
I see I'm not the only one who saw the Brave Bow as Leif's legendary weapon.
This is a fantastic video, it's nice to go through the story in one block, as I had difficulty following back when I played FE4.
There's an extremely good counter for horse Canto you didn't know.
In every case against groups of horses, there's a place on the map with a lot of trees. Forests completely negate enemy Canto.
best FE retrospective series on youtube, and its not even close
Woo! Fe4 is such a great trip! But now on to thracia with the wonderful exile patch just finished too!
Fe5 is similar in some ways, but can be a bit rough blind. Still great tho!
Also god bless the Legendary Silver Bow
@@The_Pikaboi yeet
Take that sub and to answer your long awaited question
You drop dedue by having a high plantimg level
"a bit rough blind" What a weird way to say "fucking hell to go through blind"
"No unit can take 12 attack without being killed...unless you're Sigurd"
I'll admit that gave me a chuckle
This game is epic! I played this 20 years ago, the plot blew me away!
Amazing work, man. This is the best analysis I've ever seen on the series
Glad you enjoyed it!
I started playing the emulated fan translation of this game, and feel bad that I bounced off of it as hard as I did. The arena grind and large maps just made everything feel incredibly slow to a point that has made it hard to push through. I would love to see the story of this game given the modern Echoes treatment to adjust some of the gameplay ideas to more modern sensibilities and giving the story the space to breath it deserves. I would play an Echoes remake of this game in an instant.
Yeah thats the problem. I was stoked for the echoes remake because it would be such a improvement to playability, but fanboys for this one forget alot that is true for the series til gba era. And this games og is tedious af and needs QoL improvements significantly.
Sounds like skill issues to me, child
Arden is my second favorite gen 1 character and works just fine with a little focus
There was actually meant to be more to Part II of the game. It got cut due to some of the already controversial content of the game.
One of the coolest things about this game is the fact that you seize EVERY SINGLE CASTLE IN JUGDRAL. So you see that huge map and thinks "boy, that's a lot of places to go" and you just go there and get them all.
They aren't just castles mind you, they're castle towns. Since you literally play on the entire map, every castle is a town. That's why they all have the "go to town" option. If they do remake genealogy, they need to take the battalions from 3 houses and add them into the game, even if it's just cosmetic. Really show the scale of everything. The largest maps in the series. If each character was leading a battalion into battle on top of that... that's literally perfect.
I heard so many good things about this game, I'm glad you have some negatives to say. This game needs a remake because it as some seriously broken systems.
I was devastated first time playing thru the *fire event*. But the kids did not forget! The north remembers!
Idk if anyone wants to say it but, if Sigurd didn't simp for Derdrie this would've been so avoided.
You my man have done gods work
57:32 or Finn. (Miracle Exploit)
I started this game on my phone after having played later fire emblem games for years. The idea of having to move that many units so far across each map was what stopped me from playing after the first chapter. Glad to watch this though, it certainly filled me in on some important moments in gaming.
No, this game doesn't need a remake.
It's still easily playable even by modern standards.
Wow, I really enjoyed this video. I personally haven't played FE 1-3 yet (halfway through FE1 right now) so I'm not going to watch your other videos on them yet to save myself the spoilers, but I HAVE played FE 4-8 so I can't wait to see how you interpret these games. Subscribed for sure and can't wait for the next one.
Same here
"No one will survive 12 concective attacks in this game except Sigure"
Shanon : Am I a joke to you ?
Amazing video, few things to add :
-Maybe you knew this later after the upload , - Spoiler the ending - Lewyn in 2nd generation is not the man you think he is. Search in TH-cam : "All Opening Scenes Fire Emblem Genealogy Of The Holy War
" , these you were supposed to unlock each after replaying the game set amount of times. Only in here you will know excatly what actually happened to Lewyn. This would explains why Lewyn acted way out of charecter espicially to Ced + that one last conversation between Silph and Lewyn at the ending , little Silph knew it somehow.
- In chapter one, there is a hidden conversation if you did not let Sigure pass throgh the forset preventing Deirdre from spawning. Take down the castle and you will get an intresting dialogue.
To add to the game of thrones similarities, both have a sprawling continent ruled by an incestuous dynasty of light haired people who claim to have some relation to dragons, the main protagonists of the latter generation is the wayward son of an honorable leader who is the rightful heir of a kingdom and has an unknowing relative in the form of a strange light haired girl with magic royal lineage who has an abusive brother and wanders the world, and the protagonist of the first generation has a dead sister married to his best friend. Well Lyanna wasn’t actually married to Robert but it’s essentially the same ida.
TH-cam recommended your channel to me and I have to say your Retrospectives are fantastic! You do a fantastic job of giving an unbiased look at these games , and I am for it. You have earned yourself a new subscriber and I am highly looking forward to watching/listening to the remainder of your FE Retrospectives whilst I work. Keep up the fantastic work, and thank you for the fantastic content!
Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War is represented in Super Smash Bros Ultimate by means of four Spirits (Sigurd, Deirdre, Seliph, and Julius) and one music track (“Edge of Adversity”).
2:02 The Next Generation
4:44 pause and wait
6:00 Spoilers
37:10 Spoiler Free
I don't know how it'd get done, but a discord server coop of this game would be SICK
23:40 Iconic...
Even though I’ve yet to play Fe4, this was still a really entertaining video. I’m honestly surprised you barely talked about how supposedly-broken Sigurd is as a unit though. Lol
He did say your main lord can handle most challenges the game throws at you, so skill isn't a huge bar of entry, so ig that counts for smth
Mount= high move
Good bases
Good growths
Is promoted but still get exp like unpromotes
Gets a "PRF" thats super broken and forever usuable,
Can be pasted down and given to under units
Can tank
Can 1-Round
@@JaDX243 well it is.
mostly casue if you don't know what you are doing gen 2 us fucked
@@ShrimpRice I think you forgot the most important point, pursuit.
23:40 I can only applaud you
Holy crap there are a lot of names in this story synopsis.
can you imagine Sigurd death scene remade on a modern FE? i dont think FE has the balls to go that dark again
Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War was originally released late in my sophomore year of high school. I was 16 and a half years old at the time. The game was first heard of outside Japan during the GameCube era. I caught wind of the game in 2003. Genealogy of the Holy War was first represented outside Japan through Fire Emblem Awakening. It’s currently known in the West through Fire Emblem Heroes.
When I think about Fire Emblem, this game often comes to my mind. In 2004, as I played through this game extensively, Ayra overtook Samus Aran as my favorite Nintendo character.
Wait what??? Genealogy and GOT came out the same year??? That’s crazy because GOT and FE4 have SO MUCH in common
Over an hour of goodness
High Quality Fire Emblem Content
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Dope video dawg.
Edit: The rest of the Retrospective is great too. Looking forward to future videos.
I actually stopped the video and played Genealogy before continuing. Wow. Just wow. Probably my favorite story of any Fire Emblem game, and the characters! Gonna have to do the same for Thracia 776. But at least I can watch this retrospective now!
Being my favorite Fe game, I'm very happy this video came out
The pronunciations of the names is killing me but still very good video
same
I can't wait for the games with voice acting
@@GamesBrained you did your best Shane we love you, only a remake will put some of this game's biggest naming mysteries to rest
@@TheHDEpics Hey I really appreciate that!
@@GamesBrained you're welcome C: keep up the good work
I think the set up for Seliph to win made the story better, just like the set up for Sigurd to lose. It's about manipulation
Great videos, and I just wanted to say, good luck.
Good freaking luck with FE5.
You WILL need it.
And a guide.
A guide will help a lot.
I bought the Japanese version of this game for super famicon and it will be my first ever fire emblem game I’ve played. I’ve always wanted to get into the series on DS and 3ds but I feel this will be the perfect introduction.
The best Fire Emblem game ever made, hopefully they do a 100% faithful remaster with a few QoL improvements...
Also, I wish they keep the same 2D style they had here.
Awesome video by the way :D
Absolutely, these later SNES titles are gorgeous. The art reminds me of the overworld in Chrono Trigger lol.
I personally prefer the Canto(r) ability in Engage. It's still Over powered as heck, but since it's an unlockable skill you get from Sigurd (ironically enough), it means you have to spend resources on getting it. Further more, it just adds 2 movement after an attack, no matter how far you moved. Lastly, you are limited to only two equipped skills, which means you have to sacrifice something. Unless you sync with Sigurd, which grants you Canto for free, but you are then limited to one character, and only as long as you have Sigurd of course.
These videos are awesome thanks for making them.
Your series on Fire Emblem is fantastic!
These videos are great!! Can’t wait for FE5 video
I just finished playing this game for the first time and came to check out your retrospective, and overall I think you nailed it, but I disagree about the lovers. You say that the optimal way to play in terms of gaining love point is to spend the first 50 turns having your units stand next to each other, but other than chapter 8 I completed every map in the game in under 50 turns and every woman in my army ended up with a lover (often times a really good one), and I also played blindly with no idea of who good pairings were. I ended up with Holyn/Ayra, Erin/Lewyn, Midir/Bridgit, Aideen/Jamke, and Sylvia/Alec which all seemed to be pretty good pairings and that's without ever spending turns just having units wait together ( other than throughout the maps in general, for example Holyn and Ayra were an easy pair because having the same move meant they'd just always be standing together). Just a thought.
Yeah wasting turns doing this is completely unnecessary, I can't really even imagine playing the game this way.
Not gonna lie, it's always an emotional train when your whole squad literally gets wiped for the sake of plot...
_Think of all the time spent leveling them carefully, the character building and build-up..._
Oh yeah, I look forward to playing this for sure.
Leveling up DOES pay off in the second generation, so don't be bummed by the plot twist. Second gen characters are godly compared to the first gen ones, which make the vengeance all the more satisfying.
@@kaanaltntas3966 Okay, I’m invested.
Would it be ok to play this game first?
I’ve played other fire emblem games but never finished any of them. Would this be a good one to finish first?
Yeah, I think it's a decent game to start out on. The only issue is that it isn't really representative of the rest of the series, but it may appeal to you because of that if you haven't finished any of the others.
A remake of this game whould be epic
Ah yes, Genealogy of the Holy War. The game where you use the power of eugenics to kill Satan.
Commiting incest is literally one of the ways to get some of the strongest units, I wish this was a joke
fucking love the story in this game its amazing
Wow was not expecting Sigurd to be incinerated…I would’ve played this game in my own time, but time is too precious at the moment.
I always cried when Sigurd and the crew died
just beat this game so can finally watch this video.
good ass game.
amazing story.
nice video
I feel like such a weirdo for not liking this game. It seems unanimously loved but I find it extremely frustrating. The story was pretty great but that alone can't salvage gameplay that infuriates me.
Don't worry, I'm not a big fan of this one either. I tried to get into it multiple times, but the slower pace, gigantic maps, and frequent swarms of enemies are annoying. Incidentally, if Nintendo makes a new Echoes game, I feel like FE4 here would be the perfect candidate. They fixed a lot of problems with the original Gaiden, after all. For the most part!
Don’t think this is an uncommon opinion. Slow huge maps. I loved it though.
Rumor said the next Fire Emblem is going to be a remake of FE4 Genealogy. After watching this video I’m already excited
As much as an FE4 remakes would be amazing, You can't always trust rumors.
This game can be brutal and a proper “lesson” to those used to games where death doesn’t matter like Final Fantasy.
You can get away with soloing up until Arion in Thracia.
If you don’t protect or train Julia... you also might not finish the game on the second try.
I mean all you need to do is level up julia one time and you win. The naga tome is so busted that it's almost impossible to beat the game without. Almost.
Story Section: 6:00 to 37:10
Me: Ooh What a beefy boy!
(Btw I knew the story just making a funny comment on how long it was.)
57:34 Or Finn, or Quan (Gae Bolg gaming), Leif, Altenna (Gae Bolg gaming), Ares (Mystletain gaming), Lewyn (Forsetti gaming), Ced (Lewyn 2.0), or Arthur (Lewyn on a Horse)
Yay! I love these :)
hey guys i could use some help! im trying to run Genealogy on snes9x, using the eng patch he linked us (project naga) but it just gets stuck on the start screen!
Make sure you patched the ROM correctly, sorry if this is too lste
Project Naga has two available patches, one for a headered rom, the other for unheadered. Be very sure whether the rom you aquired is one or the other and use the appropriate patch.
After having played and watched a lets play of this game, I sincerely don't get most of the love for the first gen's story. I'm not calling it bad, just not the peak of the series.
the big maps seem fun
Hahaha...no
I mean, yes, but no
Until this day, I still think FE4 is the best Japan Strategy RPG
Rewatching this after finishing FE4 yesterday. Like you said, the most impactful scene was Gen 1's end. I just noticed something. At 46:06 you have Midir instead of Erin lol. Lewyn can romance Midir lmao.
That's a visual gag, because Midir is so pretty.
@@GamesBrained understandable, have a nice day
fire emblem genealogy... Finally, showcasing the great game again. nice
Great video
Y’all keep saying Thracia is gonna be super hard to blind players. It’ll be fine, the translations will likely tell all that is necessary. Mechanics are explained fine, people complaining about that don’t read anything in game clearly. Hell I barely do and I was fine, in fact Thracia is the best game ever made (even beating ocarina of time)
What’s the easiest way for me to play this game?
This game so deserves a remake, it has the best plot IMO.
btw 46:03 Mideel isn't a girl lol (horde archer).
Is there an archive of your streams anywhere? If there is, I'd love to take a look. :)
Wow! Compared to FE: Engage, this story is a masterpiece in storytelling!
Echoes did well, righr? maybe we'll get a remake- maybe one that includes both this and the spin-off Thracia 776
Okay this one was tricky to follow becuse so many of the characters looks the same. I could not tell the difference between who you play at the start and later. But it sounded like a complex story about kings and rulers.
Wait wait wait....did he not go over the incredibly unique substitute unit system in this?? It’s not much, just a group of mostly statistically weaker units, but still.
20:30 Is this the OG NTR of video games?
So cool!💜❤💜❤
It's pretty much arvis fault that he got into this situation.