Now that's my kind of gun vise right there brother! lol Great video man. Great to see Paul out there with you, and love that pattern on the bing bang. Never heard 308 through a suppressor either, but dang that's quiet. Gotta get me a Can! WHOTEEWHO!
Congrats on the new rifle. Bergara B14 is high quality 👌 at a affordable 👌 price. Bergara carbon barrels are up there with the best. .308 Winchester can handle just about anything.
WoW, such a sweet sound. I just wish all states would make easy to own a shusher. I hope the spelling is correct. Shusher.. Awesome video. Thank you brother a great show and tell.
Great video some gun lovers hunters so on don’t like the 308win but its proven its self over the years and ammo is everywhere and a wide selection i love mine
Hey Who just went to the range with a ATA TURQUA 308 first three shots with Federal Non Typical 150 junk was .75 sub moa. The ATA is the first Turkish rifle made for the world , they make the weahterby orion so I already know they are very good machinists. Actually a well built robust bolt rifle. Threaded 24 inch barrel and a adjustable comb on the stock.This is a budget rifle that shot very very well, give them a look see, I am not disappointed. Cheers
I’ve enjoyed this game also (I even have some of the ‘Right to Bear Ammo’ loads but I think mine are 220gr FMJ). Subsonic .308 used to be pretty pricey and very hard to find. I found some Cor-Bon subsonic at a ‘going out of business’ sale once (only 1 box available). Now I think Winchester makes some so it’s a little more plentiful.
That first 208gr sounded supersonic. Be careful with that heavy/long of a 308 bullet going that slow out of a 1:10 twist barrel. Should shoot them at paper without the suppressor first to make sure they are stable out of your rifle. 168gr should be no problem.
I thing that Bergara 308 is wiser pick than any 300 blackout cos you can shoot different amount of ammo with can or without...There is so much moore different ammo producers in 308 win. I dont hesitate to say so....but its a still free world....I t is good that you point this out...Thanks from 🇫🇮 🤟
I bought some subsonic ammo for my .350 Legend. I'm really not equipped for that round out of my rifle. Hornady 250 grain ammo, I don't even have a threaded barrel.
The Beck sounded quieter for sure. It actually sounded to me like the 2A subsonic load still had a supersonic crack. Maybe it was still going slightly supersonic. Would be interesting to chronograph those.
Oh man I could really snip some deers with that rig. His little deer buddies wouldn't know what was going on. One minute there talking about the hot doe's and then he drops
I'm assuming because of the highly reduced speed (and energy) of these subsonic rounds that they're probably good for smaller game like foxes or possibly coyotes (900 ft. per second velocities can't be good enough for deer-sized game unless one hits them within 30 to 50 yards and in the head or neck area--I can't imagine a subsonic round having the energy to go deep into deer-sized game). Is it mainly geared toward plinking and close-in target shooting? Nice Bergara rifle!
My guess would be for range fun and hogs. Should be ballistically identical to subsonic 300 blackout loads, and that's pretty much the use case for them.
Love your videos. One thing I'd like to know can you shoot the subsonic 308 into some water jugs to see if they actually expand see if they can be used for hunting. it'd be interesting to compare the subsonic to the fully hypersonic or full speed rounds. Thanks Keep on popping 'em keep popping that steel
Thats awesome man! I wonder what the price and ballistic difference between a .308 220gr sub and a .300blackout 220gr sub would be.... sound would probably be the same
Im aware theyre essentially the same,it was more about cost difference than ballistic difference because its the same projectile just a different casing
Not to troll ya WTH, but I kinda like bing-bangs that go bang and make a little NOISE. Me and Mr Spormer don’t like cans, I guess. But the Begara gets my credit card tingling in my pocket..Always a whoot to watch your channel, all my best
I think they mean a maximum of 1in11 or 1in12 because a 1in10 should definitely stabilize those bullets however I am not sure how much affect that super low velocity affects stability?
EXACTLY what I was thinking. I was going to put that in the comments myself, but I’ve learned to scan through the existing comments first to see if someone’s already beat me to it.
WTW when you get done with my tires, can you please put them back on my truck. I leave for a few minutes and go out to leave and the trucks up on cinder blocks. Now I know where they went... Just kididng GREAT VIDEO... Thank you for sharing.. I managed to snag a Savage Model 10 GRS Sniper in 6.5 Creedmore and a Howa 1500 in 30-06 a couple days ago, Time to go to the range and play.....
.308 subs removes the need for two rifles. My 77mkii shoots Win. subsonics to the same POI out to 50 yards, from the (Federal) standard velocity 200yd zero.
You should try the Hornady Subsonic hunting ammo. Like you said it's hard to find but man it's quite. I use my Encore Pro hunter single shot and it's grouping 3/4 to an 1 inch.
Need a Shusher Machine for my wife, nag - nag - nag. Walking out of house with my rifle in hand, and hunting license in pocket, then I hear the nag: "where are you going" my response: bowling.
Just be carefull with the 208s they usually need an 8 twist barrel. You could get baffle strikes if they don't stabilise The reason the beck say 11 or 12 that's the minimum twist to stabilise. You can always run a faster twist without issue. The 208s are a lot longer thats why 8 twist is reccomended. The 3rd shot didn't go in the same hole was likley unstable I'd stop shooting them through the shoosher
What you putting that Alaskan 360 on, did you get a good deal on it? I've been thinking about buying a couple of the 360s to use on everything from 5.56, 7.62x39, 300 Ham'r up to my 350 Legend ARs.
Would be interested to hear what the difference between super-and sub-sonic sounds like coming at you down range… Is it the same whizzing sound as it comes at you?
I load some 125 grainers to under 900 fps in .300 blackout that are stupid quiet...for bolt guns only. I don't have a threaded .308 so haven't downloaded any for it.
If the bullets are the same weights & are going the same speed, it is no different or "better". The offering of subsonics in the various calibers IS what is better in that one doesn't need to buy additional firearms to do different jobs(but hey, I have multiple to do the same job😊), but if one has a self loading firearm, they would definitely want the ammo to function their action properly. The subsonic advantage of rifle over pistol is accuracy and penetration(much greater sectional density).
@William Gaines you missed my point. A 300BO cannot do what a 308win can, but a 308 win can do what a 300BO can. Now if your talking about an auto loader that's different.
@@albertlemont5471 I understood your point, but the platforms are generally different. If one could only have the single rifle, the larger can always be loaded down, while the smaller cannot be loaded up.
I've never seen any sub sonic ammunition in my local sporting goods store. Probably because we're not allowed to use a suppressor or even own one in Canada. Plus our idiot Prime Minister is doing everything he possibly can to try ban firearms and anything to do with firearms. 🤬
I'll never understand why so many people want a pellet gun when they could have the power of a rifle. Put a muffler on a pellet gun and you have the same thing OR buy a high power rifle and use it as one.
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Always happy to see more 308 videos!
More to come!
Ppl hate on the 308, but I just love how available, affordable, and versatile this cartridge is 😍😍😍!
Amen to that. After Walmart discontinued 5.56/.223 and 9mm, they still kept the 308/7.62 ammo as hunting rounds.
I like shooting the newer cartridges but 308 is always going to be on my shelf.
The Beck load is definitely the quietest one of the bunch.
Love to see the jug test between the sub sonic and super sonic.
Great idea
Also clay and ballistic gel would be nice
Now that's my kind of gun vise right there brother! lol Great video man. Great to see Paul out there with you, and love that pattern on the bing bang. Never heard 308 through a suppressor either, but dang that's quiet. Gotta get me a Can! WHOTEEWHO!
Congrats on the new rifle.
Bergara B14 is high quality 👌 at a affordable 👌 price.
Bergara carbon barrels are up there with the best.
.308 Winchester can handle just about anything.
308 is the shizzle! Especially if you hand load
Enjoyed the video as always love a 308 and that is super quiet
Great comparison. Love my 308.
Thanks for posting
WoW, such a sweet sound. I just wish all states would make easy to own a shusher. I hope the spelling is correct. Shusher.. Awesome video. Thank you brother a great show and tell.
Great video some gun lovers hunters so on don’t like the 308win but its proven its self over the years and ammo is everywhere and a wide selection i love mine
Thanks for the video. I am a .308 fan . It was nice to meet you at the NRA.
Hey! So glad we ran into each other! Great to meet you!
Thanks for the comparison, very helpful for someone new to subsonic bullets.
Thanks for watching
ALWAYS love it when Heavy Metal joins in on a video! Ya gotta love him! Great stuff fellas! Keep em coming!
Absolutely!
Bro I love when you bring on the old timers man you rock brother
Man that .308 is awesome!
So quiet so jealous thanks for sharing 👍
I love it. That would work great on the CVA short barrel 308 I just bought. Next is the can
Absolutely
I’ve had my Bergara B-14 Wilderness in 6.5 Creedmore for 4 years now and it’s still my favorite bolt action.
Hey Who just went to the range with a ATA TURQUA 308 first three shots with Federal Non Typical 150 junk was .75 sub moa. The ATA is the first Turkish rifle made for the world , they make the weahterby orion so I already know they are very good machinists. Actually a well built robust bolt rifle. Threaded 24 inch barrel and a adjustable comb on the stock.This is a budget rifle that shot very very well, give them a look see, I am not disappointed. Cheers
Really great video! Love seeing Mr Paul!!! 💯👍🏻
More to come!
Love the 308 and loved the video man keep it 🤟
Beck for the win! My dad's ruger 7mm loves core locs!
I’ve enjoyed this game also (I even have some of the ‘Right to Bear Ammo’ loads but I think mine are 220gr FMJ). Subsonic .308 used to be pretty pricey and very hard to find. I found some Cor-Bon subsonic at a ‘going out of business’ sale once (only 1 box available). Now I think Winchester makes some so it’s a little more plentiful.
Awesome! I could see where that sub ammo could be handy, and a lot of fun at the range.
Sounded like hitting steel with a bb gun
A lot of fun
That first 208gr sounded supersonic. Be careful with that heavy/long of a 308 bullet going that slow out of a 1:10 twist barrel. Should shoot them at paper without the suppressor first to make sure they are stable out of your rifle. 168gr should be no problem.
Good job dude great video the Beck is definitely qwuiter that boolot slinger is sweet love it dude
Wow. I didn’t know .308 could do that
I thing that Bergara 308 is wiser pick than any 300 blackout cos you can shoot different amount of ammo with can or without...There is so much moore different ammo producers in 308 win. I dont hesitate to say so....but its a still free world....I t is good that you point this out...Thanks from 🇫🇮 🤟
That was really cool! The subbys group pretty well too!
I bought some subsonic ammo for my .350 Legend. I'm really not equipped for that round out of my rifle. Hornady 250 grain ammo, I don't even have a threaded barrel.
I bet it'll smoke a deer anyway.
@@bluecollaramerican3884 I'm going to end up giving it away. Because I don't have the right setup for it.
The Beck sounded quieter for sure. It actually sounded to me like the 2A subsonic load still had a supersonic crack. Maybe it was still going slightly supersonic. Would be interesting to chronograph those.
I agree
Oh man I could really snip some deers with that rig. His little deer buddies wouldn't know what was going on. One minute there talking about the hot doe's and then he drops
I am an old guy 308 been with me a long time thanks for the valuable information
Thanks for watching Don
Like the quite 308 . You will Heavy Metal wanting to keep the rifle. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching Dwayne
I'm assuming because of the highly reduced speed (and energy) of these subsonic rounds that they're probably good for smaller game like foxes or possibly coyotes (900 ft. per second velocities can't be good enough for deer-sized game unless one hits them within 30 to 50 yards and in the head or neck area--I can't imagine a subsonic round having the energy to go deep into deer-sized game). Is it mainly geared toward plinking and close-in target shooting? Nice Bergara rifle!
I don't recommend deer hunting with subs, no
My guess would be for range fun and hogs. Should be ballistically identical to subsonic 300 blackout loads, and that's pretty much the use case for them.
I have the same rifle chambered in 30-06. I haven’t had a deer run 100 yards yet
Mate... do you think that you'd only need to neck size for subsonic, or stick with FL sizing regardless? Thanks bro
I don't Bergara rifles it nice man I got hmr same calibre if you do you part you might don't need a custom rifle good video
Awesome comparison!
Missed you in Indy! I did see some orange though.
I was there all day Friday and Saturday on the floor. That is a bummer
Love your videos. One thing I'd like to know can you shoot the subsonic 308 into some water jugs to see if they actually expand see if they can be used for hunting. it'd be interesting to compare the subsonic to the fully hypersonic or full speed rounds. Thanks Keep on popping 'em keep popping that steel
Good idea. Appreciate you watching!
Basically 40S&W and 45 ACP bullet weights and velocities but with higher b.c. and s.d.
Thats awesome man! I wonder what the price and ballistic difference between a .308 220gr sub and a .300blackout 220gr sub would be.... sound would probably be the same
Assuming they are going the same speed, there would be no ballistic difference since they are the same bullet
220 grain projectile at ~1050 vs 220 grain at ~1050? probably identical
Im aware theyre essentially the same,it was more about cost difference than ballistic difference because its the same projectile just a different casing
I am doing subsonic hand loads now. So so nice.
Awesome
What powder are you hand loading your subs with?
Not to troll ya WTH, but I kinda like bing-bangs that go bang and make a little NOISE. Me and Mr Spormer don’t like cans, I guess. But the Begara gets my credit card tingling in my pocket..Always a whoot to watch your channel, all my best
Bangs take away your hearing. I love the shhh
I think they mean a maximum of 1in11 or 1in12 because a 1in10 should definitely stabilize those bullets however I am not sure how much affect that super low velocity affects stability?
Sounds like a cowboy from the old west in a saloon spitting in a spittoon. PuTTT........TING!!!
EXACTLY what I was thinking. I was going to put that in the comments myself, but I’ve learned to scan through the existing comments first to see if someone’s already beat me to it.
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I think you should play a song with the different steel tones when hitting them. 😆The Bergara HMR Carbon Wilderness model is now available in 7 PRC!
Shhhh so quiet👍🏻. I love .308 videos.
Me too! Appreciate you watching
Wow, much quieter, but Energy is Much Lower than I thought. 9mm-level energy but larger bulot!
Ok now that was very awesome definitely would be fun.
Great video brother 👍
Thanks for watching Randy
What an awesome video !!!
Really nice! Shhhh ... WTH is shooting! 👍
That beck’s is no joke it’s crazy quite
WTW when you get done with my tires, can you please put them back on my truck. I leave for a few minutes and go out to leave and the trucks up on cinder blocks. Now I know where they went... Just kididng GREAT VIDEO... Thank you for sharing.. I managed to snag a Savage Model 10 GRS Sniper in 6.5 Creedmore and a Howa 1500 in 30-06 a couple days ago, Time to go to the range and play.....
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You always have great vids
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308 subsonic loads mimic 300 blackout. You can load 30-30 similarly. Buy some 220 round nose and load from there.
Great
That's what the 300 blackout was built for, to be a subsonic 30'06/308 round.
Yea blows my mind why anyone would want to shoot sub 308, unless they are not willing to buy or build a 300 blackout gun
.308 subs removes the need for two rifles. My 77mkii shoots Win. subsonics to the same POI out to 50 yards, from the (Federal) standard velocity 200yd zero.
You should try the Hornady Subsonic hunting ammo. Like you said it's hard to find but man it's quite. I use my Encore Pro hunter single shot and it's grouping 3/4 to an 1 inch.
Sweet
Need a Shusher Machine for my wife, nag - nag - nag.
Walking out of house with my rifle in hand, and hunting license in pocket, then I hear the nag: "where are you going" my response: bowling.
Just be carefull with the 208s they usually need an 8 twist barrel. You could get baffle strikes if they don't stabilise
The reason the beck say 11 or 12 that's the minimum twist to stabilise. You can always run a faster twist without issue. The 208s are a lot longer thats why 8 twist is reccomended. The 3rd shot didn't go in the same hole was likley unstable I'd stop shooting them through the shoosher
You should try some of those barrel cooling apparatuses.
If would be really cool to have a camera or mic mid way to pick up the sound from down range as the bullets zipping down
Can't sleep again. Came here to count bullets.
Thanks for watching!
Purchased my first shusher this month Rugged Alaskan 360. She's in jail for awhile
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What you putting that Alaskan 360 on, did you get a good deal on it? I've been thinking about buying a couple of the 360s to use on everything from 5.56, 7.62x39, 300 Ham'r up to my 350 Legend ARs.
@@EC-mc7vg how much does one run
@Ericka C it was $829 plus stamp and trust was like $1150. Guns .556 300 blk 30-30 .308 9mm to name a few
@@jonnyfonny24 I see them for $830 or so, they also have a titanium version that is more expensive.
Super fun, thanks!
Great video!!!
Thank you!!
I like my sub-308. I load Hornady 175 gr. Sub-X for hunting loads. Mine run right at the 1050 fps range. ;)
What powder are you loading for your subs?
Would be interested to hear what the difference between super-and sub-sonic sounds like coming at you down range… Is it the same whizzing sound as it comes at you?
Nice T-shirt 👍
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I load some 125 grainers to under 900 fps in .300 blackout that are stupid quiet...for bolt guns only. I don't have a threaded .308 so haven't downloaded any for it.
Man that is quite😂😂😅
I love it
That rifle drives them tight, but it helps that the trigger man is WTW!
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Actually a better option than a 300BO imo. Full power 308 win and or wisper velocities sweet.
If the bullets are the same weights & are going the same speed, it is no different or "better". The offering of subsonics in the various calibers IS what is better in that one doesn't need to buy additional firearms to do different jobs(but hey, I have multiple to do the same job😊), but if one has a self loading firearm, they would definitely want the ammo to function their action properly.
The subsonic advantage of rifle over pistol is accuracy and penetration(much greater sectional density).
@William Gaines you missed my point. A 300BO cannot do what a 308win can, but a 308 win can do what a 300BO can. Now if your talking about an auto loader that's different.
@@albertlemont5471 I understood your point, but the platforms are generally different. If one could only have the single rifle, the larger can always be loaded down, while the smaller cannot be loaded up.
I like the shushermabob , I need to work on getting one ! Much quieter
I ordered mine this week.😊
Good stuff man i like it
Thanks for watching!
Sounds like an air rifle dude! Awesome 👏
I love it
Can you please do a paper plate or clay blocks or milk jugs comparison between subs and supers?
Good idea
If a 1:12 will stabilize the bullet, then surely a 1:10 would. Faster twist is to stabilize heavier bullets.
Nice looking rifle
Great day! 👍
308 win at 990 fps 🤔 like a pistol 🔫
Not sure what to use it for maybe for home defense 🤠 I wonder how much power is inn it.
Beck is the WINNER😊
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Who tee who whats your thoughts on deer hunting with subsonic? 75 to 100 yards . Could you do a pentration test between the two.
Don't do it
I have lost deer with subsonics
I like it!
Me too!
I've never seen any sub sonic ammunition in my local sporting goods store. Probably because we're not allowed to use a suppressor or even own one in Canada. Plus our idiot Prime Minister is doing everything he possibly can to try ban firearms and anything to do with firearms. 🤬
It is hard to find
Trail boss powder and .308 150 grains....You'll be amazed
I wanna see subsonic vs normal in clay one day
Great idea
Thank you 😊
What about with out the suppressor?
I'll never understand why so many people want a pellet gun when they could have the power of a rifle. Put a muffler on a pellet gun and you have the same thing OR buy a high power rifle and use it as one.
What is the barrel twist on the rifle?
1:10
Very cool !! You think that it would be useful for hunting?? Don’t know if that bullet expands enough with that 900 fps🤷♂️
I wouldn’t on medium and large game. I think even the 300 grains @ 1050 ft/s out of a 8.6 BLK are questionable. 45-70 and 458 SOCOM subs suppressed
Those Becks are 365.5ft/lbs muzzle energy..
I do not recommend subsonic for hunting. Small game is fine, but not foe deer
That’s what I’m saying you might want to try it in ballistic gel so people won’t try to hunt with that stuff 👍
That’s what I’m saying you might want to try it in ballistic gel so people won’t try to hunt with that stuff 👍
U think this'll work in my mpap77?
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3006 amo