Adding Sonos Surround Speakers: How to choose!
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In this video we take a look at all of your possible options when it comes to adding rears to your Sonos setup.
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0:00 Introduction
00:53 Top Tips
02:28 Placement & App Functionality
04:17 IKEA Symfonisk
05:22 Sonos One SL
06:13 Era 100
07:33 Era 300
10:30 Sonos Five
11:32 Sonos in-ceiling
12:53 Verdict
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I’ve just added the Era300’s as rear surrounds to my arc and sub 3 in my cinema room and it sounds absolutely amazing, like nothing I could have imagined. I have mine on the Sonos floor stands, these are nearly 1 mtr tall so easily clear my settee. I know it’s a lot of money but I would highly recommend this set up to anyone who is considering it, there is no way you will be disappointed, everyone who hears it is amazed by how immersive it is together.
That’s the thing I love about the Sonia arc & the 3 Gen sub & the 300 eras all together - it’s so fluid & coherent. The audio is so balanced & hits whenever it needs to. I was wondering if should maybe add an extra sub in the future
Can u try something for me? Mind putting ONE era300 centered behind you and see how that does? I know I'll love em, but I can't buy 2 at the same time 😅😢
Awesome set up. So I have x2 Gen 3 Subs, Arc, and had. Just sold SLone to upgrade to era 300 or SoNos fives. Do you think with the fives it will be overkill with the 2 subs? Or should I get Atmos speakers?
Sonos 300 can be mounted near ceiliing with a Sanus mount as well. They won't be hidden but.
I upgraded my Playbar to the Arc a couple month's ago. Added a 2nd Gen 3 sub last month, and just bought a pair of Era 300s today. Just waiting for the stands. Looking forward to getting my head blown off.
Been waiting for this video, already got a Beam gen 2 from you and need some rears to go with it
cool content thanks! I recently purchased 2x ERA300 + SUB + ARC and am amazed how it plays. Watching Atmos movies is a totally new experience!
What tv have you got? I've had the sonos set up for 2 odd years now (arc, sub, 2 x one's) and am equally amazed at the sound. Then, when I recently went to the LG C2 OLED, my movie viewing went next level again.... I'm close to jumping on 2 x 300's.
@@jb7753 hey! I bought Sony A95k last year.
Great video again guys, thanks. I have a slightly different setup using the Sonos Amp and a pair of Kef Q350’s and a Kef Kube 2 sub. It’s great sounding but obviously missing rears doesn’t give me surround. I’ve been considering adding a pair of Era 100’s although would the 300’s be a better fit given their Atmos capabilities? I’d be interested in hearing your opinion. Thanks
Great Video! Would love to see a video of the Sonos 7.2.4 with the best speaker placement…
I'm using the Sonos Amp with a pair of Polk OWM3s. Had a tricky setup in a condo with limited wall space and no space for floor standing speakers, and these work really well.
Thanks for sharing, the Amp combo can work for tricky situations.
Another great video! Consistently excellent advice and very happy with the Era300’s I’ve bought after previous reviews. The performance with the Arc and sub is amazing.
How do you have it installed?with a pair of stands or wall bracket?Does it really makes you say wooow?Can you pls tell is which movie scene did really amazed you?i mean scene that really surprise you like woow its like really somebody on the ceiling or planes really flying above you?Thank you am really exited for my pair of 300 for september.Thank you
@@juanvalera7272 stands for the era are like gold dust at the moment! Had mine on order since mid-April and now been delayed again until late June!
Originally has them set up as a stereo pair for music and they’re amazing but eventually couldn’t wait to have them as surrounds so currently on 2 small tables behind sofas.
Once settings done properly (see Peter Pee channel for that info as he’s brilliant) be , they are incredible.
As for film that shows them off? Think ive watched Maverick 3 times this week! Just hope you get on well with neighbours as it’s a loud set up!
I'm very close to biting the bullet and replacing my ones with 300's. I also watch Peter Pee videos. Is the centre driver not firing that big an issue?
@@jb7753 that’s exactly what I did. The step up in quality is stunning. I’m genuinely tempted to buy another set for the back room for music only as I really enjoyed the stereo pair for music too.
I then moved the ones I had to the kitchen and set them up as a pair and that’s improved things massively too.
@craftmatthew Sorry for more questions Matthew, you have them on stands, I'm wall mounting above listening position. Do you think I'd have any issues? How far from the walls are you?
I returned era 100 to get 300. 2x the price but makes a huge difference in my HT setup.
Thanks. Very informative. Sort of sold on replacing my Beam G2 with an Arc then Era 300s when budget allows.
Thank you very much for the support! We're glad to hear the video helped 😀
In the showrooms I’ve been in the beam sounds better to me.
Great videos, I have in my set up a beam gen 2 and a pair of ikea bookshelf and I am more than happy, for now, I have this in my bedroom, the best about sonos is that you always can upgrade your system and always you can use the “old” ones to make a different setting in another room. So it’s more like an investment.
I had a Beam Gen 1 and Symfonisk rears in my master bedroom and Office for awhile and it was the perfect sound upgrade to my TV. I later added the sub and WOW! The sub takes it to another level.
@@mrgold3591 that’s my next step , but I need some time to make the upgrade, you know my wife does not see it as a must, I don’t understand why 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have the same (kind of wife) at home 😅
Hi Guy's thank you for another great informative video, the new ERA 300's are going to be my next purchase ! I'm currently using the SONOS 1's for my rear channels paired to the ARC & Sonos sub , as you say in your video adding the EARA 300's as rears will make my system truly Awesome ! I will obviously require a set of stands but the extra cost will be worth it in my opinion all hooked up to my LG 77inch OlED gallery TV . I will call you guys soon to have a quick demo before my purchase. See you again soon 👍🏻😀
Hi Stuart, sounds like the addition of the Era 300's are going to be the perfect addition for your setup. We're very much looking forward to seeing you back in the showroom sometime soon! We promise we'll have the coffee machine on ready for you! 👍☕
@@smarthomesounds Can someone help. Awesome set up. So I have x2 Gen 3 Subs, Arc, and Just sold both of my SLone to upgrade to era 300 or SoNos fives. Do you think with the fives it will be overkill with the 2 subs? Or should I get Atmos speakers? I have a G4 83 inch with the PS5. I know it depends on the room but I will get a house so I know it will fill it. But… I don’t want to miss out on Dolby Atmos
If u want the best, have the space and budget go for era 300, if not go for era 100 still awesome surround (but no so much for atmos)
Great video as always! I've got myself a Beam Gen 2, and I'm wanting to add a couple of rears. I've narrowed it down to a pair of Era 100's, or a pair of the SYMFONISK Picture frames, I really like how the frames look, especially in white as they just look sooo clean, but I can't help but feel the era 100's will not only sound better, but I can position them towards my sofa (they will be behind each corner), for better imaging, and I've also heard the frames are quite bass heavy? I have neighbours the other side of the wall they will be on and can't help but feel they might vibrate through the wall? I can place the Era 100's a foot or so away from the walls on stands too which should stop this. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks!
I have a large room with a TV/Arc on one end, and a turntable setup on the other end. I was thinking about getting a pair of Era 300's for the turntable, and then using them as rears during movies. You mentioned that line-in is disabled when used as rears, but is it easy to group/ungroup them when I want to use them for the turntable?
I use One SL''s with Arc for my LG C2. As I mainly game with PS5 they are prefect (for me) as I don't need any extra bells n whistles
Nice set-up.
My room is 5.8m x 8m open living... Would a Sonos era 100 be a good replacement from my IKEA bookshelf speakers as surrounds? Or would I benefit from an extra picture frame speaker or adding extra (speakers) to front left or right sides?
Great video as always! One question, I've just bought 2 era 300s for rears and I'd like to know, as my couch is against the wall, do I turn them in toward me or straight out?
They say it at 2:08
@@danielvestergaard1692 Thanks! Sorry missed that bit...
Very tutorial video! I use an arc with a sub gen2 and ikea bookshelfs for rears and 10 feet watching position. Would it be worth upgrading to era 300 or would that be too massive? Era 100s? Or keep current config? View as much atmos i can get hold of, which isn’t much. Also some music.
I would't go for the Era 100 upgrade as the performance bump won't be worth the price jump. However the Era 300 with Atmos content is worth it in our opinion.
Whats your verdict on an arc paired with two play 3s for rears? Don't have a sub and don't feel the need for it yet.
Thank you very much for the video. I currently own Sonos Arc + Sub Gen 3 + 2 Play:3 as rears. I largely use the set up for Atmos movies, PS5 gaming and some non-spatial music. Is the upgrade to Era 300 worth it? And should I position them just behind the couch or further back (I have dining table behind the couch) in room corners?
If you watch a lot of Atmos content then I would say it's worth the upgrade. I would explore both positions for the rears and trueplay both and see what you prefer.
i have 2 sets of in ceiling speakers with sonos along with the arc and a sub...one pair of the in ceiling speaker is at the level of the couch and the other is at the level behind the couch...any utility in adding a pair of eras 300s behind the couch to make the rears and then switch the ceiling ones to pure height speakers? or is that not possible
I want the era 300s to my arc and sub mini but they are just too large for my average sized room and would be placed on the wall directly behind the sofa. I wish the era 100s were atmos also or a product in between like era 200s
Right any video
Android and Trueplay - will it ever happen?
I have the beam gen 1, sub mini and 2 symfonisk bookshelf speakers. Are the era 100s a big upgrade over the bookshelf ?
Thanks for the really informative video! I'm torn right now as I'm in a 950ish sqft apartment and my living room isn't huge (it's not tiny either). I have a Arc Gen 2 and I will probably go for the sub mini because I probably wouldn't be able to use the full sub anyways in an apartment. Question is - would the ERA300s be overkill for my setup? Or would I be able to make full use of them in the space and setup that I have? I'd be using these speakers for both movies and music.
Thank you for the video. I am tending toward Era 300s as my surround. However, because of the shape of my room the Era 300s behind the couch (~3 meters away) cannot be symmetrically placed. They would have to be placed at different angles behind the listener. Do you think this would be ok? And trueplay would compensate for the speakers being asymmetrically placed?
Yes I would't worry to much as in testing we tried all sorts of compromising positions and Trueplaying the seating position and the room did a great job. You can also select the speaker distance from your sofa that also can improve the set-up.
Hi looking to purchase era 100 or 300, I have a back to wall seat but really don’t like floor standing speakers , would these speakers be ok wall mounted at ceiling level?
I just got a beam gen2. Looking at back speakers. The era300s sound like what I need in a budget I do not have. What do you guys think of buying ONE era300 and putting it centered behind the couch? Until saved up for a another one? Does that sound like it could work?!
I ended up going with the Arc, dual Gen 3 subs, and Fives are rear surrounds for my LG OLED 77C1. The Sonos system is in a very large rectangular great room with 10 foot ceilings (family room, B-fast area, kitchen). I purchased everything right after X-mas before I knew about the Era 300 release dates. The current system sound fantastic! My cable provider only has Dolby 5.1 and most streaming I watch is only about 30%-35% in Atmos. I don't know how the Era 300 compare to the Fives with mostly Dolby 5.1 content in home theater mode? I can wait until the Era 500 come out, Sonos updates the app to add more speakers to compete with the Nakamichi Dragon 11.4.6, or there is an Arc v2.
lol. Just wait for the Era 800, or Era 1200
@@chris7077 I don't get the lol?
I have the same setup as you but only one sub. Is the second worth it?
@@benschroeder1161 Depends on how large your space to take advantage of the second sub. I have a Beam Gen 2, Gen 3 sub, and One SLs in my enclosed office (14 feet X 20 feet X 10 foot ceilings) and that fills the room perfectly. We like to watch Sci-fi, action movies, and listen to bass heavy Pop/R&B music and the second sub in the extra large main room adds to that. The second sub may not help much if you watch mostly dialogue driven shows (news, documentary, reality TV, dramas, Sit-coms, etc..) or listen to music that doesn't have a lot deep bass.
Hi from the US, my dilemma is my ceiling is sloped. Should I go with the era 300’s or Sonos 5’s! My arc is sitting at the lowest point of the sloped ceiling which is 2.75 meters tall, and my sofa is at the tallest point at 4.75 meters.
Hi
I have seround set up arc,sub,era 100 connectet wi Fi,my question is
Sometimes I want to turn on the rear speakers only to listen to music, but when I try to turn on the rear only, it asks me to turn off the surround system and connect separately to the Era 100 speakers for stereo sound. How is it possible sometimes on only the rear era 100 speakers whitch out disconnect seround set up thanks
Are the Era 100's worth it or should I pony up for the Era 300's? My Arc and sub (gen 3) already sounds amazing, but i'm looking for rears. I have 500 sqft room.
7.2.4 sound not is correct. According to SONOS technicians announced via chat, 1 Sonos Arc, 2 Sonos ERA 300, and 2 Subwoofers in a total of 5.1.4 is the correct specification.
Thank you videos
Are the 300’s a good choice when couch is placed against the wall? Is the surround any good with 5.1 content? (Not using the inner/rear speakers but only the outside ones)
Yes they are fine against the wall, trueplay and the seating portion scan will help with this.
Wired vs Wireless question…with the following setup ARC,Sub gen3, 300’s is it a good idea to connect ARC/Subs via Ethernet and 300’s dongle /Ethernet? Will there be a delay between the 300’s and the rest of the system?
In a 2nd room same setup with 100’s instead of 300’s same question about delay because of the dongle
There is no need to connect all the devices via Ethernet. If you want stability you would only have to wire to the Arc as the others communicate to the Arc via a dedicated 5ghz card which is separate to your home network.
Better yet is the beam gen two, sub and 300s. The beam has better vocals and you get a slight wider soundstage for larger rooms but not by much. 10% better. Above is the ultimate Sonos movie experience
“Better vocals” than what? Than the Arc?
I just bought my era 300 and I've been using it for 3 days now mainly for movies and I'm very disappointed. I was using the sonos one SL prior to this and the upgrade is very minimal and not worth top dollar. I'm thinking on returning and and just stick to one sl.
Update:
Sonos and retailers have reduced pricing on some Sonos products today 6/2/2023
Best Buy- Sub Gen 3 $687 New
My setup as of today
TV Sony 85” 950
ARC / Two ERA’s 100 / Two Sub Gen 2 & Just bought Gen 3
What you think
Really want a comparison between beam and era 300s and arc and ones
I've just swapped my Beam 2 for an ARC, having upgreaded the rears to ERA300's when they were launched in March. Also have Sub Gen 3. The recent swap to ARC was definately the least significant upgrade along the journey. Fist adding the Sub was a massive benefit, then swapping the Ones for ERA300 was just mind-blowing, and I really did wonder whether I should ever upgrade to ARC as the Beam/Sub/ERA300 set up seemed brilliant. However I could use the Beam in another room, so I ordered the ARC a week ago. I'd say the Beam set up was best for music, and I can agree that the ARC set up is best for Movies/TV. The ERA300's did seem to overpower the Beam on action movies, and the result was impressive due to overall volume and height from the rear, but I do enjoy a cleaner more controlled sound now with the ARC. The ARC and ERA300 seem to merge more seemlessly than with the Beam. Not an essential upgrade, but if you have the cash then I'd conclude it is worthwhile.
@@martynwhiteley765 thanks for the reply, currently rocking the ones as rears, with a sub mini with my beam gen 2. Considering which upgrade
wait so we have to disable airplay to make this work?
Great informative video guys. Just bought a arc and torn between the 100 and the 300. But most definitely be going for the 300 as i want the atmos effect but the only thing is they're nearly 900 quid. Worth it ?
What stands are those on the era 100 at 0:15?
If I buy 4 era 100s and connect them to my arc+sub will I be able to use the entire system as a 5.1 surround? Arc being center channel
2 era front left and right
2 era rear left and right
Or they can only manage being rear speakers?
You wont need the front two, arc will cover all of that.
You can do it. Seen 2 era 300s in front and 2 era 300s in rear. Did you do the 4 era 100s idle so how does it sound?
The 300's can be wall mounted upsude down how will that work with upward firing drivers?
Floor firing :-(
Can I get the surround sound feeling with only one era300? I am currently in a small apartment and have the beam2. I primarily am looking for a great speaker with crisp sound that can also improve sound when watching movies because it seems I can't hear the dialogue too well.
you can only pair two of the same speaker as a rear.
I Just bought the era 300s. But if the front speaker is disabled. Why not Just angle a sonos one sl upwards a bit. Does the same thing then
What? 😂
Hello, thanks for the information, I have a question, can't I put the era 300 speakers into the Sonos app together with the Sonos arc? why when I turn the volume up or down from the Tv remote Sonos era 300 does not change its volume only Sonos arc changes the volume,thank you
Yes, you can pair them as one big group in the Sonos App. That way you will get full Dolby Atmos and the whole zone volume will increase with your remote. Go to settings > system in the Sonos App and find the zone which the Arc is in then add surrounds. The app will guide you from there. Hope this helps.
@@smarthomesounds I searched where you say in the application but I don't have the option to add surround, I only have add 2 sub, I now also have two One Sl rear speakers, maybe that's why I can't add era 300? thank you very much for the answer
can 4 era 300 1 raum together connected
I have an Arc........ Lookin at getting Rear.....but my question is do i have to get 2 rears..... I was thinking about getting just 1 300 or 2 100s
.....any recommendations
To use as rears. Need the pair
We have a beam Gen 2, a pair of Sonos ones, and wanted to use them in our media room (12X10) that is pre-wired for in-wall speakers. Should we just order a sub-mini to be used with the beam gen 2 and Sonos one as rear surround sound or go for the in-wall listening height speakers.
Can I assume the power lead for the 300's os the same as the one's?
No unfortunately they are different. Hope this helps.
@@smarthomesounds bugger!!!! I'm going to have to get into the roof then to replace the power leads...
I think one sl is the best value for money as surrounds
I have that configuration currently and thoroughly enjoy it, but I don't times find my ear drawn to the speaker directly....so I'm keen to see how the 300's go without the centre firing driver.
Agreed.
What if I only want to use 1 rear speaker (era 300)? Can it be posible
No can only pair 2 at a time
Sonos needs to allow the front firing speaker to play especially we payed a premium for a product and not get the full product
Well I’m guessing that it does play when playing music- and if it’s better for movies to not have it in use I don’t see a problem.
Whilst the front driver isn't firing during movies, there are still 10 drivers firing. Another review I've watched points out that by nit firing m, it doesn't stand out as a singular point of sound, and the other speakers fill the entire sound stage.
@@jb7753 I know! People are salty of the front not firing. I see no issue. Sounds great.
@@slaldbsahagamos1993 did you upgrade from a lair of one's? Or straight to the 300's??
Why not discuss non-ideal seating positions? I'd imagine there are a few people that can't sit directly in front of their TV.
I appreciate the content but this review is rather vanilla for consumers who want to know what your actual genuine experience was with each speaker. Seems like all the information provided here is a regurgitation of what we can quickly read on the Sonos website.
It is very annoying how I can't just grab my two era 100s and put them in the kitchen to play music without all the hassle that's needed.
That’s what the Sonos move is designed for!
@@B.Miranda94 paying out another £500 when I already have speakers there? Abit stupid.
Why can you not?
@@chrismiranda5648 because there set up as rears, so you can't do anything with them unless there unpaired with the beam, then once your done, you have to repair and redo true play again when used for rears.
@@adji69, sounds a little bit strange. “multiroom” audio setup always meant you have speakers in multi rooms, not that you have one pair and move it with you. Maybe you need a portable speaker, but you cannot use it as rears in a TV setup
Great video thanks for the information im new to sonos and have not purchased yet i haven't looked through your video catalog yet so this may have already been asked and answered but is there a beginner's intro video to sonos products ?
I own a 2 bedroom 2 bathroom condo and was planning on purchasing an arc along with a pair of era 300 and 2 gen 3 subs.
I know this is probably over kill for the space im currently in but im planning on possibly selling my condo in 2 or 3 years and purchasing an actual house and wanted to purchase a home theater system that would be suitable for a larger home space down the road when i do finally decide to pull the trigger and move.
Id rather buy once cry once, would this be a decent setup to use in a condo and then transfer to a larger space down the road ?
Any advice and information would be greatly appreciated as i previously stated im new to sonos and im trying to get as much information as possible before i pull the trigger and buy which will be this November because my Costco is having a sonos sale and im planning on buying everything all at once and want to try and ensure that im getting the best set-up for my current living situation as well as something that will be suitable for a larger space when i do finally upgrade.
Once again thank you in advance for any information and you've got one new subscriber as i really enjoyed the format of your content and the way in which you deliver information.
yes go for this setup. would be overkill at first but still great and even future proof when moving to bigger room. so yes, good home theater investment
but one gen 3 sub is power enough…..
The video titled "Adding Sonos Rears: Don't make the WRONG choice..." by Smart Home Sounds provides a comprehensive guide on the various options available for adding rear speakers to your Sonos home cinema setup. The video emphasizes that the best solution for surround sound rears is dependent on your budget, your space, what effect you're looking for, and the soundbar you're pairing with. It encourages viewers to share their choices and tips in the comments and to get in touch with their tech guides for personalized advice.
Here are the key points and buying decisions proposed:
- Sonos Ikea Symfonisk Range: This is the most affordable solution starting from £200 for a pair of bookshelf speakers. They are designed to blend into your home and offer a discrete audio solution. The bookshelf speakers are recommended for compact spaces while the frame and lamp offer a comparative performance to the Sonos One or 1SL.
- Sonos One SLs: These have been the most popular solution for adding surround sound rears to a Sonos soundbar for the past few years. They are compact speakers and offer a great surround sound performance for most spaces.
- Era 100s: These are a step up in surround sound performance and come in at £498 a pair. They are great surround sound speakers that are a good fit for any Sonos soundbar and will work in almost any space.
- Era 300s: These are the ultimate Sonos surround sound rears and come in at £898 a pair. As Dolby Atmos enabled speakers, they are only compatible with Dolby Atmos soundbars. They are designed to give a different experience to your standard surround sound rears and offer a far more immersive experience.
- Sonos 5s: These are the most expensive solution at £1098 a pair. They offer a totally different experience from the Era 300s and are recommended if you want the most powerful solution Sonos offers.
- In-Ceiling or In-Wall Speakers with Sonos Amp: This is an option for those who want a more discreet solution. The Sonos amp comes in at £699 and the in-wall or in-ceiling speakers range from £599 to £699 a pair.
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Hi, could I have beam 2 and only one era 300 in the back instead of the pair or have an era 300 above the bar as if it were a front?
@@sbtianczno. Have to use two of the same speaker for surrounds. Also, you can’t use surrounds (or any Sonos speaker other than a soundbar) for your front channel.
Great video and great advises. I've got a Sonos Arc and a Sub gen3 and I have one Sonos Play5 gen2: as a surround speakers for my home theater system, if I get one Sonos Five, can I pair them together as a stereo speakers or surrond speakers? Are they compatible? And if you were me should you go for a couple of Fives or two Era 300s?
Thanks!
only possible as stereo OR (!) surround. once it’s a surround speaker setup, you’ll have to unmount in the sonos app and remount always with trueplay calibration to set them again as surround.