Well im just a normal person raiding 3 nights a week I used to pug evrything until I got into a guild that was fine with casuals and now im a officer in it my advice just get on into a guild that is on your skill level so you can progress together ,lear from each other im not tuching mythic too much pressure for me but hc its more than fine :) casuals are just people who dont have that kind of time or like me have only one hand/desabled
"Blizzard" is still a collection of humans lead by humans. Many of the humans running game systems are different from the ones that said those words... Just something to think about in your life in general lol.
Gonna be old gods/void lords expansion no fucking way they're going to give us some bullshit expansion after building up the void lords like they have in Legion.
@Victor Oliveira Even on day 1 of Legion, obtaining many class's artifact weapon's involved scenarios where the player fights void lords. Off the top of my head Arcane Mage weapon and Arms Warrior Weapon.
Ah I don't disagree with you, it's just that they might throw us a curveball in making us think they will live a long time just by making Anduin look old.
Times change!!! that commic was future and it can be changed like army of light, dragons, naaru ,scourge horde/alliance and every race army fight vs DEMONS did not had happened, or it will happen in next Xpac.
I predict that Asmongold gets a PvP NPC located somewhere, and all the spergs in the land will rush to kill it the second it respawns. The defenders of Asmongold will become a new, community made faction to combat the spergs and their foolishness. The end.
From a mythic raider's point of view it actually isn't that bad that "casual players" also have access to decent gear. If we wouldn't have that finding new players for the mythic raid would become significant harder because the pool of people to choose from would immensly shrink.But with a system like right now where you can get gear from every bit of content you are doing the chances are higher that you will eventually try out "more real" raiding aka. at least heroic raiding. To sum it up mythic raiders are actually profiting from the current setup of how players throughout all brackets are rewarded "regardless of their effort". Because believe or not there are ton of players who actually want to raid but have very difficutl time finding groups outside the pug world.
If we get Boats next expac I really hope they properly fill out the Class Hall "role". I want them to be huge, multiple decks and customize-able, maybe multiple boats that you unlock, with your older boats following you around with your followers on board perhaps so you have your own little navy. Aside from that, I suspect they will begin to plant the seeds of a 2nd Lich King Expansion for afterwards
Agreed. For one, it reinforces number inflation. And still, even tho its cool to get a very powerful upgrade you otherwise won't ever get, its pretty terrible to have a system in place that kinda never lets you rest for a bit and say "Okay, I'm done with gearing this character." Gonna hope they're doing a stat squish again, cause the numbers are ridiculous and if they keep warforging procs, at least make it +1 ilvl per proc. Legion starts at 790 gear or sth and now we've got 1000 ilvl items.
As a player that used to play all day as a kid that has now had their playtime severely limited as I've gone off to College I agree with your premise of "Better Skill/Investment = Better Reward" The problem that I've faced throughout Legion whenever I have a chance to play is that I want to pug Normal Mode because LFR is stupidly easy and I'm not invested enough to do Heroic, so naturally Normal seems like the right choice to me. I think I was around ilvl 890 when ToS came out and I cleared 7 bosses via pugs in the first week. I then didn't have much time to play after that due to job commitments and when I eventually started messing around with WoW again towards the end of August I found that people often wanted ilvl 900-920 for a raid that drops mostly ilvl 900 gear. This was extremely disheartening as by this point I was around ilvl 905ish I still found myself getting rejected from a lot of groups simply due to my ilvl despite the fact that there wasn't much on average that I could do to improve my ilvl in Normal mode anymore. So the community effectively "broke" that content for me as the gear people wanted me to have was superior to that which would be rewarded. Now I expect the first thing someone to say is "Make your own group" and I simply point back to my situation and would say that I don't feel I'm invested/knowledgeable about the game in its current form to be running the circus. Maybe I'm wrong, but that was my feeling. So back to the original argument "Better Skill/Investment = Better Reward" this should be how it is but since I need RNG to meet the ridiculous gear standards of the community I'm dependent on that system and that's an issue that needs to be fixed.
I can already hear the cries of agony when an activision rep takes the stage and announces that raid loot be changed to give everyone tokens that they can then spend on loot boxes for a chance at the gear they want.
I will say I've had a lot of fun in Legion, overall, I like the expansion. I think Legendary rng is silly, but I ~do~ like the idea of gear giving very specific, interesting traits. However, I think instead of having the orange text attached to them, these should almost just be a separate tier of item; rather outside the conventional tier system altogether. That way Blizz can drop the coveting of "Legendary acquisition feeling Legendary" - which it really doesn't right now anyway since most people have at least 2 or 3, if not far, far more. Outside of calling them something different and giving them a new text color, just plop them behind grinds or achievement-like tasks. I definitely think we will see the system return, though, in some form or fashion. And, once you get the damn things, I think the system is fine - it is just the meandering pace that can curse folks in terms of looting them.
ANTORUS STORY SPOILERS and predictions for next expansion: I think another bit of proof Azshara will be significant in the next expansion is if you read the letter that Illidan gives you so he can say farewell to Malfurion and Tyrande he pretty much tells Malfurion and Tyrande to replace him as the 'Guardian of Azeroth' so to speak, basically telling them to become significant and stop doing nothing because the fact these two, particularly Tyrande have practically done nothing even though being main NPCs of Warcraft is an impressive feat by Blizzard. The only NPC connections that Azshara actually has is with Tyrande and Malfurion, so they could actually fulfill that role extremely quickly if those two lead the initiative against her and the Naga. Obviously a Sea expansion will ultimately have Azshara and N'Zoth being significant if not the main villains. I don't think Malfurion will die at all at the start. Azshara could possibly kill him during her expansion to build some tension and give a bit of story for Tyrande. I'd hope that one of the most powerful NPCs in Warcraft would die in a dramatic way. Zandalar probably won't be neutral for the Horde, the trolls are inherently hostile since Cataclysm and MoP, y'know where we killed a lot of them at Isle of Giants, Isle of Thunder and Throne of Thunder. It's more likely that Zandalar try and make a pact with Azshara/Old Gods to stop their island sinking into the ocean which has been happening since Cataclysm. The Undermine is far more likely as a Horde Hub. Also you can't pass up the chance for a Troll Raid, that's not allowed. Velen also hasn't finished his story yet, he can be very significant both against the Void and also in teaching Anduin the Light in his journey in becoming a Priest/Paladin. There's no one else to teach him really and they have a pretty close bond. Velen will definitely disappear until the Void comes back in force though., I also believe that Velen and Anduin are meant to lead the Army of the Light against the Void from a book/comic. Anduin will probably have tension with Jaina in her angst against the Horde and will try to uphold his fathers ideals and what he learnt in Pandaria to try and maintain peace so he'll be pretty relevant.
if they're going to keep in legendaries just add in a damn currency drop instead and let people turn that currency into legendaries of their choice. That way Blizzard can set the amount of grind they want for legendaries, but remove the RNG. It would also give them feedback on which legendaries are undertuned based on how little certain ones are crafted/purchased.
They could increase trinket slots to like 4 or 5 and make all legendaries as trinkets. If they don't like when throughput and utility legendaries coexist like in Legion then all those trinkets could have an utility effect - from movement increased through engineering-alike effect through maybe personal invisibility, extra spells and stuff. Also they could clean up proficiencies. Gathering professions doesn't have to be full blown and taking a profession slot. For skinning it was max-out in first zone and then annoying "go to old raid in the middle of nowhere, one shot thing, skin it" star quests. And they could reveal class changes quite early if they do plan something bigger.
I'm new to wow, but your point on titan forging is exactly whats happening in Destiny. Max I level used to require a ton of grinding in either the raid or our endgame pvp, but now you can get get to it by doing everyday activities.
I think they will add Zandalar because it'll lorewise open up the Zandalari Trolls as a subrace. Since all the subraces seem to be joining us through lore means. The Mountain Taurens we helped in 7.0 are joining, the Suramar elves we helped in 7.1, same as with the Argus Draenei we helped in 7.2.5.
Here are some things that i think Blizzard has to change or do with the next Expansion: 1. Bring back real PvP rewards: I remember gearing up my characters with the Weekly Arena caps was always a fun thing to do and i also really liked that you could basic jump into pve with the strongest pvp gear and do at least normal raids. Also i liked feeling alomst as strong as the most powerful pve players in the open world. In addition to that the Weekly cap that was increased by arena rating was anoth incendiary to keep players motivated in playing arenas on a higher rating. 2. Let PvP gear have more impact but in a humane way with catch up bonus for alts etc.. At first i thought the stat templates were a good thing but i dont think that idea completely fits into wow. Eventhough it is annoying to get rekt when you are playing alts in PvP, in my perspective the fun from feeling powerful after grinding your gear was a lot more noticable in comparison. As someone else in the comments already noticed: Elitism might not always be a bad thing especially in an MMORPG. 3. Add interesting PvP content. Legion was a full disappointment in everything PVP-related. 4. In my Opinion Legendarys are not the worst idea but i think all legendarys should be somewhat on the same level when it comes to damage increase. Let some be powerful in multi target and some single-target. Let them vary in their effects but dont keep it how it currently is because the frustration of getting a really bad legendary is an unncessary thing that just doesnt have to be in the game. 5. Definetely keep on innovating the Mythic+ System since i feel this was the best addition to WoW that came with legion.
Illidan and Sargeras could still play a role in the future. Distant future i'd say. Simply because we might want Sargeras as an ally against the Void. I know it sounds kinda weird but Sargeras just wanted to stop the Void. That's not that bad if you think about it. The Void corrupts everything, so because Sargeras was scared of that force, knowing he couldn't stop them, he decided to wipe out everything that could get corrupted. Like cutting your Arm off after being bitten by a snake. Stop the poison from spreading you know. We will eventually get to that point too. We see the Void and we know we can't stop it. Atleast not without the help of the last two Titans around. Azeroth and Sargeras. So we free him, talk with him and if he cooperates, fine. If not, eternal slumber party with Illidan again.
I would really love to see is a black desert trading system where we can sell goods to npcs in towns in each zone. The prices will change making you to go to another zone to get better prices. This can allow people to visit older zones.
I like the idea of us being able to upgrade our ships and so on, they could open up for new content, i mean there is A LOT of ocean in WoW that they could do something with in the future.
I gotta be honest, I love it when I expect one thing for an expansion, and Bliz pulls something completely new that we weren't expecting. I'd be happy with another MoP type expac, in the sense of us not knowing or expecting anything out of it lore wise. Old Gods and Kul'tiras seem like the most probable expansion though. Additionally, I feel like part of the reason WoD was so dry and boring feeling was because of the lack of a new race/class. It doesn't necessarily have to do with overall gameplay, but it is something people used to look forward to with each expansion.
Both Velen and Anduin will live throughout the entire game, atleast untill the final expansion. The comic showed that with a foresight of what's to come. Also, I've seen over a dozen speculation video's but nobody ever recalled the moment Malfurion said in the Emeral Nightmare raid that we had to prepare for the Black Empire's rearrival. So that's a thing.
I THINK WARFORGING/TITANFORGING IS A GOOD THING ! Warforging exists because once you get the loot you want out of a boss, the boss is worthless to you and becomes a complete waste of time, you couldn't possibly loot anything better because you already got the gear, thanks to warforging you can at least still get an upgrade so you're never wasting your time doing any boss and that's a good thing I think. I'm finding myself using bonus roll when I got too much on Boss I already have gear from because it's BiS and I want procs it's still exciting when the boss ends, it doesn't feel like a waste of time and it's not frustrating. LFR piece titanforging to mythic iLevel is such a rare occurrence it's hardly a problem, and I bet that not a single player is mythic iLevel geared, having only done LFR. It's rare enough to get one piece to proc that high.
When I played on the World of Wonders private server Horde and Alliance raided together. We had to as we were short of numbers, but besides that there was still the usual World PvP. It was no big deal.
Would love to have ships where players can board your ship and jump on a cannon and sink other ships for loot/exp/ship upgrades. Pirates of the Caribbean online had a system like that and it was really fun. Ship pvp would be awesome too
I think the next expansion should have two NPCs Asman and Mccoon who you bump into a few times while leveling and they are just constantly bickering or mocking each others progression through the challenges we face.
Characters don't have to die. They can just change planes of relevancy - like Jaina did. I think Alleria will use the Void to help Sylvannas find her "salvation".
I don't play retail wow anymore, but epics were never really epics expect for pre-patch 1.3 when MC was added. I play nostalrius (now called Light's hope), we are on the patch right b4 AQ. And bro I can tell ya epics aren't epics here either. There's more shit epics than there are good ones. Legendaries however, those are fucking legendary Edit: sorry really fuckin drunk
They're still Epic in Vanilla, shit epics or not. You don't walk into MC and walk out fully decked in a week, like it is right now in Retail. Getting all those purples actually took a bit of time. You might get really lucky and get carried by a guild, and get a few pieces, but thats not the case for a lot of players. My mage on the original Nost still had mixed Epics and Blues going in to BWL, with quite a bit more blues than epics, and mind you, thats a few months played. As it is right now, I just got done leveling a priest from 1 - 110 no boost, and i'm sitting at 922 ilvl, with my 2 BiS Lego's. 3 days played.
aka, lets spend millions on a game so that only 1% of the game's population can actually enjoy it...that way that 1% can feel like they've actually accomplished something significant in their life...in a video game...
I hope they bring back the Lost Isles and Kezan if they do a boat themed expansion. Also on a side note if they do revamp the old world again they better freaking add flying to the Blood Elf and Draenei starting areas it's about time and it would be awesome to fly above Silvermoon
I think Velen will stay on Argus to rule it again; I think Sylvanas will be the main baddie (with Old Gods and a hat-tip to Azshara); I that all classes should have a PvP-exclusive spec and those specific specs can be balanced out reasonably well; I think Legendaries will stay but should only be complementary with crafted items, ie you'll get a drop that starts a quest that requires the profession that matches your armor type (or JC for jewelry, scribe for trinks) and a bunch of dungeon or trade good stuff. Aside from that, I can see the new expansion just using the old world and former locked off zones for new content. I can imagine an underwater zone but I generally agree with the 'kul Tiras / Zandalar' new main factions for the x-pac. I think final raid will be a lot like Antorus - a series of old Gods and some filler bosses - and I think the Lich King will be a baddie as well and be part of a mid-tier filler raid
In my opinion we should think of "players" on the level of Thrall and Khadgar in terms of "independence/neutrality". With this mindset, Blizzard could definitely remove the faction restrictions on player interaction, allowing Guilds to become factionless, and accept any race. Note, however, that Players would still belong to a race and retain the friendly/hostile status with the various NPC factions, and would still be flagged hostile to players from the opposing faction in zones meant for "Alliance vs Horde". Think of it as "I'm your friend, but if you show up at X zone, I'll have to uphold my allegiance to my king and fight you".
I liked the video,but I wished you would've talked more about pvp and what they should change (besides what you talked about in the vid obv) cause there is alot more wrong with pvp. You and Stoopz had some really good points in the podcast,maybe you should've included some of them in this video.
In my opinion legendary system wasn't worst (not best), but if you have some "must have" legendaries and some useless. In that moment it sucks, so better balance for legendaries. Second thing what i want to see but i didnt - it's arfitact, for me it was the best thing what we had in the Legion and I really want something similar to it. Im sure keystone system will stay in the next xpac same, also PVP will be same and I hope they will remove titanforge and just stay with warforge. I think next xpac will be very similar to Legion but with fixed legendary system, removed titanforge system and new garrison (class hall). At the end ... Legion was pretty good, so no need to change everything.
We all know Blizzard wanted to lock up Sargeras in a vault to pull out their ass later in the game. "The Prison is weakening" is something that we have heard all too much.
As a nostalrius player (yeah go ahead and make fun of me) I would see 3k pyroblast crits in PvP and get really excited because I knew how much dmg that was. Now, doing 4,535,697 auto attack hits on retail, it don't really feel the same. Even tho I don't play retail anymore, I think it'd be nice if they made the numbers more readable again
Blizzcon flashes on the big screen as the show starts..(everyone gets pumped) as the yells and shouts starts it cuts to a guy head bashing his desh while looking like WTF did i just do... and thats all id need from blizzcon this year
I completely agree that they shouldnt remove the factions. I like having two competing factions and it annoys me when MMOs dont have 2 factions. The problem with WoW is that they don't utilize the 2 factions. it's a shame cus it would be great for the PVP players if they would start making world PVP a serious thing between the factions as a part of the storyline
I would like to see a boat as a more of a pasttime/ way to make some gold such as you can sail out and find treasures, hunt pirates etc. and also as player housing BUT with no reason to stay in there 24/7, just cosmetics or a storage area.
The problem is elitist don't tend to care about equity within gaming communities. It's all about stats, PvP or end-game progression for them, a very strategic and linear play-style. You'd be hard pressed to find large numbers of elitist taking interest in the actual story of an MMORPG. Most casuals are just happy to find their own reasons for playing, whether that be going at their own pace, farming dungeons/raids for transmog gear, or simply for social reasons. MMORPG's play-styles weren't strictly made to cater elitist, first-person shooter games make for better games for elitist. But the one thing we can all agree on is that, none of us enjoy RNG.
What is casual about farming mogs, mounts and achievements? It will be visible on those players’ collection even X years later. Farmingthe same mythic+ dungeons and raids for two years to MAYBE get that one legendary that you will not even use a few months later is 100% wasting time. That IS casual you filthy casuals!!
Playing the game for the sake of playing the game seems pretty casual. What's wrong with people wanting to do old or new content, when they want to or ready to. Elitist D-bags are literally in the same boat as casuals. The collection of high end gear will be made void in the next expansion anyway, isn't that also a waste of time more so then someone getting a reward they took weeks or months to farm even if only for aesthetic purposes? Hence the tmog function in-game. Plus people who are just about maxed out get bored just grinding AP everyday.
warforge/titanforged gear is not the issue. +15 ilvls is not make or break - it keeps repeatable content relevant. If you're more mad at titan forging than you are random things like concordance, it kind of just shows some degree of elitist insecurity. Let someone get a 15 ilvl boost, if you're the better player, you'll still be better.
Problem is not that, problem is getting to hardest bosses in a raid and have zero upgrades because you have titanforged gear already, makes the mythic rewards meaningless.
With that logic though, there's no incentive to repeat a raid if you already have gear. There has to be SOME sort of incentive. And just as easily as the last raid's gear titanforged, the current tier can too. It gives reason to repeat content, so i get it. Maybe top end gear should start at a higher base ilvl; kind of how KJ's base is higher than the others, just even higher so for a final mythic raid boss. I do think though that the random proc trinkets and passives like concordance are a bigger issue though.
Turalyon wont die, he's the most plot armored character in the game now. More than even azeroth itself. Why? Because he's the most iconic Warcraft character that is currently alive and just now got in the game. He can die in a few expansions (maybe even by the end of the next expansion) but he for sure won't die a pre release event. As for people dying... Jaina, Sylvanas, Bolvar, Someone from the Nightborne and Lothraxion are the most likely candidates.
grand marshal gear for the elite would be the best ever since BC now in legion that would make a lot of ppl comeback too it's rewarding to work like PvP gear in mop that felt like that too kinda
I dont see the harm in the factions being able to talk to eachother or do dungeons and such together you could still pvp and not be allowed in certain areas i mean you have horde and alliance races who work together on pirate ships the main factions could still be enemies but no reason certain people couldent work together
I'm actually really glad they're only doing sub-races. I feel like everytime a new race or class comes out it gets further away from that wow feeling...Like monks and pandas. We don't need more races
You can buy pvp gear though in Dalaran with the Echoes currencies (essence of battle, and whatever the other one is) You melt down the pieces you get at the end of a pvp match in the obliterum forge then buy pvp gear with it.
Doubling down on M+ with new affixes, big push for it as an esport. Potential retrofitting of "timewalking" dungeons for M+. Really wondering what they'll substitute for artifact power.
Green Jesus will make his comeback probably sacrifice himself to heal Azeroth and through this act he will re-kindle his relationship with the elements
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Equality is a false God. Bring back elitism in WoW
And get rid of casuals, let elitists pay billion $ per year to Blizzard.
Frenkzenith do lfr. Lfr was made for people like you.
aleks1991 If they whine on the forums about not being able to do heroic raiding because they're too bad at the game then yes.
Well im just a normal person raiding 3 nights a week I used to pug evrything until I got into a guild that was fine with casuals and now im a officer in it my advice just get on into a guild that is on your skill level so you can progress together ,lear from each other im not tuching mythic too much pressure for me but hc its more than fine :) casuals are just people who dont have that kind of time or like me have only one hand/desabled
I thought not gonna happen due to elitists are kids and jobless without money (and some youtubers who live in WoW).
Blizzard said legendaries should feel special years ago.... Now everyone and their new born brother has a fucken legendary from lfr
***World Quests
***buying from AH
Can tell when the last time I payed attention to wow lol
my unborn granddaughter got her 20th legendary today
"Blizzard" is still a collection of humans lead by humans. Many of the humans running game systems are different from the ones that said those words... Just something to think about in your life in general lol.
Legion : wield the most powerful weapon against the most powerful demon
Next expansion: here have ye boat
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-You Sir... We... are going to be disappointed- ... Edit: This is goddamn epiiiic!
Gonna be old gods/void lords expansion no fucking way they're going to give us some bullshit expansion after building up the void lords like they have in Legion.
BC revamped like they have done in Cata or we riot! :)
how have they build up on void lords this expantion? The first mention of them was on the last part of Argus campaign
Knaifu's been teasing us the entire expansion.
@Victor Oliveira Even on day 1 of Legion, obtaining many class's artifact weapon's involved scenarios where the player fights void lords. Off the top of my head Arcane Mage weapon and Arms Warrior Weapon.
inc blizz selling cosmetic boat skin loot boxes
ahahahhaah this is definitely going to happen
I wouldn't complain if they made the skins Overwatch tier or better.
im cool with that. People love skins and a lot of people buy them. So Blizz will get a lot of money which is good for both, blizz and the playerbase.
Ah Yeah I love paying for an expansion and then paying monthly and then seeing shitloads of microtransactions
GeekEnglish I know right, just give us one skin at release then sell the other 25 for 10-20$ each. I would love that.
Asmon, there's absolutely no chance that Velen dies. Read the Son of the Wolf comic, Anduin and Velen are guaranteed to live for a long time.
Or Anduin could get the same Khadgar curse treatment that somehow makes him old
Even so, that still guarantees his life past the next expansion unless we fight the would-be final battle then.
Which we most certainly won't.
Ah I don't disagree with you, it's just that they might throw us a curveball in making us think they will live a long time just by making Anduin look old.
Even if Velen dies can't they just go to another timeline and just take that Velen?
Times change!!! that commic was future and it can be changed like army of light, dragons, naaru ,scourge horde/alliance and every race army fight vs DEMONS did not had happened, or it will happen in next Xpac.
I predict that Asmongold gets a PvP NPC located somewhere, and all the spergs in the land will rush to kill it the second it respawns. The defenders of Asmongold will become a new, community made faction to combat the spergs and their foolishness. The end.
His name will be Asmon The Golden
World of Warcraft: The Neckbeard War
he sucks at pvp lmfao. gets carried in rbgs all day. him and trainwrecks. i literally watched these lil shit get carried to 2.4 in szn 3
This faction will be dubbed "The Neckbeard Defenders"
Cody Brown yea ppl dont get carried to 2400 dude. cmon
From a mythic raider's point of view it actually isn't that bad that "casual players" also have access to decent gear. If we wouldn't have that finding new players for the mythic raid would become significant harder because the pool of people to choose from would immensly shrink.But with a system like right now where you can get gear from every bit of content you are doing the chances are higher that you will eventually try out "more real" raiding aka. at least heroic raiding. To sum it up mythic raiders are actually profiting from the current setup of how players throughout all brackets are rewarded "regardless of their effort". Because believe or not there are ton of players who actually want to raid but have very difficutl time finding groups outside the pug world.
If we get Boats next expac I really hope they properly fill out the Class Hall "role". I want them to be huge, multiple decks and customize-able, maybe multiple boats that you unlock, with your older boats following you around with your followers on board perhaps so you have your own little navy. Aside from that, I suspect they will begin to plant the seeds of a 2nd Lich King Expansion for afterwards
Remove legendaries and warforging and I'm happy.
Charles Winters guess you won't be happy...
Make legendaries like mop legendaries, make the warforge max only +2 or +3 ilvls, and get rid of lfr.
Damn you got warforged legendaries ? So lucky... (/s)
I like wf but no tf
Agreed. For one, it reinforces number inflation. And still, even tho its cool to get a very powerful upgrade you otherwise won't ever get, its pretty terrible to have a system in place that kinda never lets you rest for a bit and say "Okay, I'm done with gearing this character." Gonna hope they're doing a stat squish again, cause the numbers are ridiculous and if they keep warforging procs, at least make it +1 ilvl per proc. Legion starts at 790 gear or sth and now we've got 1000 ilvl items.
Asmon at Blizzcon PogChamp
No one that I saw on youtube, predicted classic servers. And I thought "this time it'll happen" and it fucking did!
Legacy servers, holy fucking shitballs.. didnt even consider them announcing it .. HOLY FUCKING SHIIIT
As a player that used to play all day as a kid that has now had their playtime severely limited as I've gone off to College I agree with your premise of "Better Skill/Investment = Better Reward" The problem that I've faced throughout Legion whenever I have a chance to play is that I want to pug Normal Mode because LFR is stupidly easy and I'm not invested enough to do Heroic, so naturally Normal seems like the right choice to me. I think I was around ilvl 890 when ToS came out and I cleared 7 bosses via pugs in the first week. I then didn't have much time to play after that due to job commitments and when I eventually started messing around with WoW again towards the end of August I found that people often wanted ilvl 900-920 for a raid that drops mostly ilvl 900 gear. This was extremely disheartening as by this point I was around ilvl 905ish I still found myself getting rejected from a lot of groups simply due to my ilvl despite the fact that there wasn't much on average that I could do to improve my ilvl in Normal mode anymore. So the community effectively "broke" that content for me as the gear people wanted me to have was superior to that which would be rewarded. Now I expect the first thing someone to say is "Make your own group" and I simply point back to my situation and would say that I don't feel I'm invested/knowledgeable about the game in its current form to be running the circus. Maybe I'm wrong, but that was my feeling. So back to the original argument "Better Skill/Investment = Better Reward" this should be how it is but since I need RNG to meet the ridiculous gear standards of the community I'm dependent on that system and that's an issue that needs to be fixed.
I can already hear the cries of agony when an activision rep takes the stage and announces that raid loot be changed to give everyone tokens that they can then spend on loot boxes for a chance at the gear they want.
I will say I've had a lot of fun in Legion, overall, I like the expansion. I think Legendary rng is silly, but I ~do~ like the idea of gear giving very specific, interesting traits. However, I think instead of having the orange text attached to them, these should almost just be a separate tier of item; rather outside the conventional tier system altogether. That way Blizz can drop the coveting of "Legendary acquisition feeling Legendary" - which it really doesn't right now anyway since most people have at least 2 or 3, if not far, far more. Outside of calling them something different and giving them a new text color, just plop them behind grinds or achievement-like tasks. I definitely think we will see the system return, though, in some form or fashion. And, once you get the damn things, I think the system is fine - it is just the meandering pace that can curse folks in terms of looting them.
ANTORUS STORY SPOILERS and predictions for next expansion:
I think another bit of proof Azshara will be significant in the next expansion is if you read the letter that Illidan gives you so he can say farewell to Malfurion and Tyrande he pretty much tells Malfurion and Tyrande to replace him as the 'Guardian of Azeroth' so to speak, basically telling them to become significant and stop doing nothing because the fact these two, particularly Tyrande have practically done nothing even though being main NPCs of Warcraft is an impressive feat by Blizzard. The only NPC connections that Azshara actually has is with Tyrande and Malfurion, so they could actually fulfill that role extremely quickly if those two lead the initiative against her and the Naga.
Obviously a Sea expansion will ultimately have Azshara and N'Zoth being significant if not the main villains.
I don't think Malfurion will die at all at the start. Azshara could possibly kill him during her expansion to build some tension and give a bit of story for Tyrande. I'd hope that one of the most powerful NPCs in Warcraft would die in a dramatic way.
Zandalar probably won't be neutral for the Horde, the trolls are inherently hostile since Cataclysm and MoP, y'know where we killed a lot of them at Isle of Giants, Isle of Thunder and Throne of Thunder. It's more likely that Zandalar try and make a pact with Azshara/Old Gods to stop their island sinking into the ocean which has been happening since Cataclysm. The Undermine is far more likely as a Horde Hub. Also you can't pass up the chance for a Troll Raid, that's not allowed.
Velen also hasn't finished his story yet, he can be very significant both against the Void and also in teaching Anduin the Light in his journey in becoming a Priest/Paladin. There's no one else to teach him really and they have a pretty close bond. Velen will definitely disappear until the Void comes back in force though., I also believe that Velen and Anduin are meant to lead the Army of the Light against the Void from a book/comic. Anduin will probably have tension with Jaina in her angst against the Horde and will try to uphold his fathers ideals and what he learnt in Pandaria to try and maintain peace so he'll be pretty relevant.
if they're going to keep in legendaries just add in a damn currency drop instead and let people turn that currency into legendaries of their choice. That way Blizzard can set the amount of grind they want for legendaries, but remove the RNG. It would also give them feedback on which legendaries are undertuned based on how little certain ones are crafted/purchased.
They could increase trinket slots to like 4 or 5 and make all legendaries as trinkets. If they don't like when throughput and utility legendaries coexist like in Legion then all those trinkets could have an utility effect - from movement increased through engineering-alike effect through maybe personal invisibility, extra spells and stuff.
Also they could clean up proficiencies. Gathering professions doesn't have to be full blown and taking a profession slot. For skinning it was max-out in first zone and then annoying "go to old raid in the middle of nowhere, one shot thing, skin it" star quests.
And they could reveal class changes quite early if they do plan something bigger.
I'm new to wow, but your point on titan forging is exactly whats happening in Destiny. Max I level used to require a ton of grinding in either the raid or our endgame pvp, but now you can get get to it by doing everyday activities.
I think they will add Zandalar because it'll lorewise open up the Zandalari Trolls as a subrace. Since all the subraces seem to be joining us through lore means. The Mountain Taurens we helped in 7.0 are joining, the Suramar elves we helped in 7.1, same as with the Argus Draenei we helped in 7.2.5.
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Velen and Anduin literally cannot die because of the army of the light story that concludes the story of Sargeras.
Pretty decent predictions and you were spot on many of them.
Here are some things that i think Blizzard has to change or do with the next Expansion:
1. Bring back real PvP rewards: I remember gearing up my characters with the Weekly Arena caps was always a fun thing to do and i also really liked that you could basic jump into pve with the strongest pvp gear and do at least normal raids. Also i liked feeling alomst as strong as the most powerful pve players in the open world. In addition to that the Weekly cap that was increased by arena rating was anoth incendiary to keep players motivated in playing arenas on a higher rating.
2. Let PvP gear have more impact but in a humane way with catch up bonus for alts etc.. At first i thought the stat templates were a good thing but i dont think that idea completely fits into wow. Eventhough it is annoying to get rekt when you are playing alts in PvP, in my perspective the fun from feeling powerful after grinding your gear was a lot more noticable in comparison. As someone else in the comments already noticed: Elitism might not always be a bad thing especially in an MMORPG.
3. Add interesting PvP content. Legion was a full disappointment in everything PVP-related.
4. In my Opinion Legendarys are not the worst idea but i think all legendarys should be somewhat on the same level when it comes to damage increase. Let some be powerful in multi target and some single-target. Let them vary in their effects but dont keep it how it currently is because the frustration of getting a really bad legendary is an unncessary thing that just doesnt have to be in the game.
5. Definetely keep on innovating the Mythic+ System since i feel this was the best addition to WoW that came with legion.
I hope this expansion has some more Horde vs. Alliance themes like MOP did.
Yeah with last raid being Siege of stormwind or gilneas with big underground caves ohh where i had seen that?
Guild ships as places to hang out with your guild would be a cool twist on the class hall/garrison that we will probably always have now.
Illidan and Sargeras could still play a role in the future. Distant future i'd say. Simply because we might want Sargeras as an ally against the Void. I know it sounds kinda weird but Sargeras just wanted to stop the Void. That's not that bad if you think about it. The Void corrupts everything, so because Sargeras was scared of that force, knowing he couldn't stop them, he decided to wipe out everything that could get corrupted. Like cutting your Arm off after being bitten by a snake. Stop the poison from spreading you know.
We will eventually get to that point too. We see the Void and we know we can't stop it. Atleast not without the help of the last two Titans around. Azeroth and Sargeras.
So we free him, talk with him and if he cooperates, fine. If not, eternal slumber party with Illidan again.
I would really love to see is a black desert trading system where we can sell goods to npcs in towns in each zone. The prices will change making you to go to another zone to get better prices. This can allow people to visit older zones.
I like the idea of us being able to upgrade our ships and so on, they could open up for new content, i mean there is A LOT of ocean in WoW that they could do something with in the future.
Vanilla is coming back! As far as I'm concerned, this Blizzcon is a dream come true.
It came, and already dead lol
I gotta be honest, I love it when I expect one thing for an expansion, and Bliz pulls something completely new that we weren't expecting. I'd be happy with another MoP type expac, in the sense of us not knowing or expecting anything out of it lore wise. Old Gods and Kul'tiras seem like the most probable expansion though. Additionally, I feel like part of the reason WoD was so dry and boring feeling was because of the lack of a new race/class. It doesn't necessarily have to do with overall gameplay, but it is something people used to look forward to with each expansion.
I really hope they do another stat squish. It doesn't have to be huge, but I'd like it if I wasn't able to hit for millions.
Matthew Batson I agree. I can't stand when I'm seeing 10mil dps and bosses with billions of hp. Way too much.
Who cares. "1E6", problem solved.
Just put the boss to percent not health and turn off the numbers
lucasmac15 you cant turn off numbers, how would we be able to compare our dps dicks?
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Both Velen and Anduin will live throughout the entire game, atleast untill the final expansion. The comic showed that with a foresight of what's to come. Also, I've seen over a dozen speculation video's but nobody ever recalled the moment Malfurion said in the Emeral Nightmare raid that we had to prepare for the Black Empire's rearrival. So that's a thing.
I THINK WARFORGING/TITANFORGING IS A GOOD THING !
Warforging exists because once you get the loot you want out of a boss, the boss is worthless to you and becomes a complete waste of time, you couldn't possibly loot anything better because you already got the gear, thanks to warforging you can at least still get an upgrade so you're never wasting your time doing any boss and that's a good thing I think. I'm finding myself using bonus roll when I got too much on Boss I already have gear from because it's BiS and I want procs it's still exciting when the boss ends, it doesn't feel like a waste of time and it's not frustrating. LFR piece titanforging to mythic iLevel is such a rare occurrence it's hardly a problem, and I bet that not a single player is mythic iLevel geared, having only done LFR. It's rare enough to get one piece to proc that high.
Make legendaries LEGENDARY again.
Happyfunrun Uhhhh, hello? They are legendary.
Yea, getting Prydaz from Blingtron. SOOOO legendary -.-
When I played on the World of Wonders private server Horde and Alliance raided together. We had to as we were short of numbers, but besides that there was still the usual World PvP. It was no big deal.
Would love to have ships where players can board your ship and jump on a cannon and sink other ships for loot/exp/ship upgrades. Pirates of the Caribbean online had a system like that and it was really fun. Ship pvp would be awesome too
In the stories released by Blizzard, you see an old Anduin travelling with Velen, so most probably they will stay with us more time
Lol your face when "yeah and Turalyon is probably going to die" *cheeky half smile*
I think the next expansion should have two NPCs Asman and Mccoon who you bump into a few times while leveling and they are just constantly bickering or mocking each others progression through the challenges we face.
Characters don't have to die. They can just change planes of relevancy - like Jaina did.
I think Alleria will use the Void to help Sylvannas find her "salvation".
World of Warcraft: Wrath of the cockroaches of draenor
Matthew Franklin of the lich king
Crusade
world of warcraft wrath of the burning legion of pandaren cockroaches from draenor
The boat could act like the long awaited house mechanic
Well, the legacy servers got announced after all. We expect a dedicated video!
I wonder if there is a way to roll back the last 5 expansions and make epics epic again.
But first make rares rare. To hit 60 with 1-2 rares and full of greens level 40-th.
I don't play retail wow anymore, but epics were never really epics expect for pre-patch 1.3 when MC was added. I play nostalrius (now called Light's hope), we are on the patch right b4 AQ. And bro I can tell ya epics aren't epics here either. There's more shit epics than there are good ones. Legendaries however, those are fucking legendary
Edit: sorry really fuckin drunk
They're still Epic in Vanilla, shit epics or not. You don't walk into MC and walk out fully decked in a week, like it is right now in Retail. Getting all those purples actually took a bit of time. You might get really lucky and get carried by a guild, and get a few pieces, but thats not the case for a lot of players. My mage on the original Nost still had mixed Epics and Blues going in to BWL, with quite a bit more blues than epics, and mind you, thats a few months played. As it is right now, I just got done leveling a priest from 1 - 110 no boost, and i'm sitting at 922 ilvl, with my 2 BiS Lego's. 3 days played.
I thought Elysium went to shit?
aka, lets spend millions on a game so that only 1% of the game's population can actually enjoy it...that way that 1% can feel like they've actually accomplished something significant in their life...in a video game...
You already see Velen in the Comic with Anduin (when he is very old) so i dont think Velen dies any time soon
I hope they bring back the Lost Isles and Kezan if they do a boat themed expansion. Also on a side note if they do revamp the old world again they better freaking add flying to the Blood Elf and Draenei starting areas it's about time and it would be awesome to fly above Silvermoon
What's going to happen to artifact weapons? Are we getting new ones? Will our current ones magically explode at the end of Legion?
I think Velen will stay on Argus to rule it again; I think Sylvanas will be the main baddie (with Old Gods and a hat-tip to Azshara); I that all classes should have a PvP-exclusive spec and those specific specs can be balanced out reasonably well; I think Legendaries will stay but should only be complementary with crafted items, ie you'll get a drop that starts a quest that requires the profession that matches your armor type (or JC for jewelry, scribe for trinks) and a bunch of dungeon or trade good stuff.
Aside from that, I can see the new expansion just using the old world and former locked off zones for new content. I can imagine an underwater zone but I generally agree with the 'kul Tiras / Zandalar' new main factions for the x-pac. I think final raid will be a lot like Antorus - a series of old Gods and some filler bosses - and I think the Lich King will be a baddie as well and be part of a mid-tier filler raid
In my opinion we should think of "players" on the level of Thrall and Khadgar in terms of "independence/neutrality".
With this mindset, Blizzard could definitely remove the faction restrictions on player interaction, allowing Guilds to become factionless, and accept any race.
Note, however, that Players would still belong to a race and retain the friendly/hostile status with the various NPC factions, and would still be flagged hostile to players from the opposing faction in zones meant for "Alliance vs Horde".
Think of it as "I'm your friend, but if you show up at X zone, I'll have to uphold my allegiance to my king and fight you".
Izzy Read my comment again and you might understand what I said.
pretty much nailed it. well done
I liked the video,but I wished you would've talked more about pvp and what they should change (besides what you talked about in the vid obv) cause there is alot more wrong with pvp. You and Stoopz had some really good points in the podcast,maybe you should've included some of them in this video.
In my opinion legendary system wasn't worst (not best), but if you have some "must have" legendaries and some useless. In that moment it sucks, so better balance for legendaries. Second thing what i want to see but i didnt - it's arfitact, for me it was the best thing what we had in the Legion and I really want something similar to it.
Im sure keystone system will stay in the next xpac same, also PVP will be same and I hope they will remove titanforge and just stay with warforge.
I think next xpac will be very similar to Legion but with fixed legendary system, removed titanforge system and new garrison (class hall). At the end ... Legion was pretty good, so no need to change everything.
wow Asmondolg you were actually right about a lot of stuff like the boats and Zandalar
You are one of the few that still fight for what the game used to be. Battle on brother!
We all know Blizzard wanted to lock up Sargeras in a vault to pull out their ass later in the game. "The Prison is weakening" is something that we have heard all too much.
As a nostalrius player (yeah go ahead and make fun of me) I would see 3k pyroblast crits in PvP and get really excited because I knew how much dmg that was. Now, doing 4,535,697 auto attack hits on retail, it don't really feel the same. Even tho I don't play retail anymore, I think it'd be nice if they made the numbers more readable again
Velen isn't going to die. You can see him with old Anduin before "the final battle" or something in one of the web comics.
Times change!! it's a future a vision that velen had seen it , future that's not set in to the stone :)
and they deleted that comic
i dont think those are canon
also, Velen won't fucking die, he's in the comic with old as fuck Anduin
Blizzcon flashes on the big screen as the show starts..(everyone gets pumped) as the yells and shouts starts it cuts to a guy head bashing his desh while looking like WTF did i just do... and thats all id need from blizzcon this year
Velen cant die,he is in the Anduin commic he has to be his tutor as Anduin gonna be leading Army of the light against the Void lords
I completely agree that they shouldnt remove the factions. I like having two competing factions and it annoys me when MMOs dont have 2 factions. The problem with WoW is that they don't utilize the 2 factions. it's a shame cus it would be great for the PVP players if they would start making world PVP a serious thing between the factions as a part of the storyline
Asmon 'a certain level of diminishing return' Gold
Reading over the announcement notes, please make a thoughts video!
if they came out with a almost moba style BG with 40v 40 stormwind and orgrimmar with the main objective to kill both chiefs would be soo dope
Since Velen is seen in the future in the comics, I doubt he will die.
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I would like to see a boat as a more of a pasttime/ way to make some gold such as you can sail out and find treasures, hunt pirates etc. and also as player housing BUT with no reason to stay in there 24/7, just cosmetics or a storage area.
Well my boy, I think you were pretty spot on with these predictions.
The problem is elitist don't tend to care about equity within gaming communities. It's all about stats, PvP or end-game progression for them, a very strategic and linear play-style. You'd be hard pressed to find large numbers of elitist taking interest in the actual story of an MMORPG. Most casuals are just happy to find their own reasons for playing, whether that be going at their own pace, farming dungeons/raids for transmog gear, or simply for social reasons. MMORPG's play-styles weren't strictly made to cater elitist, first-person shooter games make for better games for elitist. But the one thing we can all agree on is that, none of us enjoy RNG.
What is casual about farming mogs, mounts and achievements? It will be visible on those players’ collection even X years later. Farmingthe same mythic+ dungeons and raids for two years to MAYBE get that one legendary that you will not even use a few months later is 100% wasting time. That IS casual you filthy casuals!!
Playing the game for the sake of playing the game seems pretty casual. What's wrong with people wanting to do old or new content, when they want to or ready to. Elitist D-bags are literally in the same boat as casuals. The collection of high end gear will be made void in the next expansion anyway, isn't that also a waste of time more so then someone getting a reward they took weeks or months to farm even if only for aesthetic purposes? Hence the tmog function in-game. Plus people who are just about maxed out get bored just grinding AP everyday.
Holy shit you said Silithus the right way at the end of the video.
But did he say Silithus will die? How can a piece of land die?
could be cool if Blizzard focused on Race next expansion like they focused on Class in Legion
Velen appeared in the future mini comic that Anduin is Old , so he will not die.... yet.
warforge/titanforged gear is not the issue. +15 ilvls is not make or break - it keeps repeatable content relevant. If you're more mad at titan forging than you are random things like concordance, it kind of just shows some degree of elitist insecurity. Let someone get a 15 ilvl boost, if you're the better player, you'll still be better.
Problem is not that, problem is getting to hardest bosses in a raid and have zero upgrades because you have titanforged gear already, makes the mythic rewards meaningless.
With that logic though, there's no incentive to repeat a raid if you already have gear. There has to be SOME sort of incentive. And just as easily as the last raid's gear titanforged, the current tier can too. It gives reason to repeat content, so i get it. Maybe top end gear should start at a higher base ilvl; kind of how KJ's base is higher than the others, just even higher so for a final mythic raid boss. I do think though that the random proc trinkets and passives like concordance are a bigger issue though.
See you in Stranglethorn Vale.
I opened youtube just to hopefully be directed to this video, i did not get disapointed
I want player models to be updated for the sole purpose of the naked draenei event during WoD beta.
Fun times.
I really want some more tropical zones in this next expansion. I love stranglethorn vale and would love more of it
Dont think Velen will die since we saw him in the future with Anduin. Think it was the comic : Son of the Wolf.
"Sup ya'll. It's me. It's ya boy." - That intro...
Honestly, I think Velen might stay on Argus to help rebuild it once we get rid of sageras
Turalyon wont die, he's the most plot armored character in the game now. More than even azeroth itself. Why? Because he's the most iconic Warcraft character that is currently alive and just now got in the game. He can die in a few expansions (maybe even by the end of the next expansion) but he for sure won't die a pre release event. As for people dying... Jaina, Sylvanas, Bolvar, Someone from the Nightborne and Lothraxion are the most likely candidates.
Turalyon dies at the end of Stranger Things S2
Would like to see some naval pvp but tbh it will prob be copy past argus ship 2.0
Would like to see world scaling even tho 50% hates it.
watching you mining is so satisfying Kappa
grand marshal gear for the elite would be the best ever since BC now in legion that would make a lot of ppl comeback too it's rewarding to work like PvP gear in mop that felt like that too kinda
I really hope the next xpac isn’t tied around Jaina. I really hope it’s tied around voidlords, though.
I dont see the harm in the factions being able to talk to eachother or do dungeons and such together
you could still pvp and not be allowed in certain areas i mean you have horde and alliance races who work together on pirate ships the main factions could still be enemies but no reason certain people couldent work together
I'm actually really glad they're only doing sub-races. I feel like everytime a new race or class comes out it gets further away from that wow feeling...Like monks and pandas. We don't need more races
Velen won't die. He's part of the old Anduin comic.
A troll focused expansion would be so sweet.
Just saw you on some other dudes stream in a Hilton near the convention
You can buy pvp gear though in Dalaran with the Echoes currencies (essence of battle, and whatever the other one is)
You melt down the pieces you get at the end of a pvp match in the obliterum forge then buy pvp gear with it.
Doubling down on M+ with new affixes, big push for it as an esport. Potential retrofitting of "timewalking" dungeons for M+.
Really wondering what they'll substitute for artifact power.
Green Jesus will make his comeback probably sacrifice himself to heal Azeroth and through this act he will re-kindle his relationship with the elements
5 more hours until blizzcon bois
Heeeeey... you actually grew some more hair. Boi, I'm proud of you!
Velen cant die, he was in the timeskip in that one short comic.
you look happy in this video man, good shit
they need to do to legendaries what they did to heirlooms. Once you get a legendary all your alts that can use that legendary can have it too.