They use 74 “pattern”/sized mags. That’s why the Akm sized don’t fit, Zastava Galil sar weiger etc… It’s basically a beryl/74 with a 45 degree sight block an 14mm threads. 22mm trunnion/thin stem bolt/and lightened carrier with 74/beryl style bullet guide. Mine has almost 5k on it. Headspaces fine, everything looks good. Small wear in up until 200 rounds or so then stopped. Only issues has been broken firing pin tip. Luckily the beryls measure the same. So I used my beryls until a spare beryl came. Still waiting for pioneer to get a shipment from Poland for warranty
More reviews finally, I'm gonna say it I bought a 5.56 pioneer arms forged series AK myself from Atlantic firearms I'm excited and skeptical at the same time on it, knowing it's my second AK, I will have I own wasr10 I've bought that new in 2019 off Atlantic firearms for $650 and I love that AKM, but wanted a different caliber, hopefully it's a good rifle. I'm swapping the crappy commercial furniture with my surplus Bulgarian 74 stock set, and arsenal AK 5.56 74 style brake I bought for it that I have armacon thread adapter for, and my standard semi auto Romy safety selector. I have some Bulgarian commercial 74 mags with pod arms followers I bought as well. I also bought some legit polish milsurp shooter grade 30 round Beryl 5.56 mags black with steel reinforced. I have a.c. unity mags as well in 5.56, I was told they didn't hog out the mag well enough there AKM 7.62x39 has same issue from what mishaco stated.
Yeah I bought mine about a month ago and it seemed like there were hardly any reviews at the time; now there are getting to be more. Sounds like we have similar tastes, I’ve put a 74-style brake and Romanian AKM safety since this vid as well.
I just ordered one of these just like yours, and I can't wait to get it. I think these are cool. I have a Zastava m90 and m85 pistol also, but I love the classic look.
I just got the underfolder 5.56 and am really liking it. I have several other nice 5.56 AK including Type 84 and Arsenal and though the Pioneer is evidently cheaper to mfg due to some cast parts, it looks and shoots great. For mags I use WBP, PUFGun, AC Unity aside from the Pioneer it came with. I need to find my circle 10 though I suspect it’ll be fine. Cool vid! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
I recently jumped on the 5.56 AK band wagon, and after a few months of watching reviews I chose the Ark-556 from PSA. The mag well was what put it on the top of the list for me. The Pioneer looks awesome.
Pufgun,and wbp magazines run in my Pioneer fine. I've had mine for about a month with no issues as of yet. RC is 1400ish Barnaul 55 fmj for what it's worth I
That gap on the rear stock is meant to be there. If the gap isn't there the laminated stock will split. It's actually a sign Pioneer know what they're doing... and you don't know what you're talking about. The things worthy of note about the stock are whether or not you can put a cleaning kit in it and that it doesn't have the reinforcing brass screw that you see on some laminated wood military AKM stocks.
Interesting, suppose I stand corrected. I never claimed to be an expert though… however I can offer you some knowledge as well that you seem to never have encountered: it’s possible to correct people without sounding like discharge-spewing dickhole. Try it sometime.
I think the trigger finger ledge on the safety is great. You talked about the welds.... it's an AK (sound of crickets). The rivets are beautiful the finish seems top notch, Mine came with the polymer stock set and everything fits flawlessly. If you want an AK that does what AK's do. Then this is a good AK to do that thing that AK's do.... WORK
I'd like to see how it groups at 100. I'm wondering if they're using the same nitride barrels that the 556 WBP uses. Those had some reports of terrible accuracy.
I’ve definitely heard a lot of good things about the Beryl but don’t personally have any experience with them… but at the very least hope to test Beryl mags very soon. Thanks for watching!
Did it come with that sling? If not, what is the source of the sling? Thank you. I have no real interest in the Pioneer AK's but I am glad to see a good review of the 5.56 version. I look forward to part 2.
I don’t personally have a gripe, it’s a commentary on their reputation. There are plenty of bad reviews of PSA AK’s so it would seem that they’re capable of producing a good rifle, but QC is inconsistent. When they’re good they’re good and when they’re not they’re not.
PSA is building excellent quality AKs now . Most of the bashing comes from the jealous people on the Fan Boy Files. There isn't an AK manufacturer out there that hasn't had their share of problems over the years .
There’s a couple of options. There are 74-style brakes that have 14x1 LH threads that will fit onto this rifle directly, and there are adapters that will allow one to use other 74-pattern brakes.
@@hobofactory thanks 👍🏻 yeah after looking into this further, it seems all the 74 style brakes that are 14x1 LH (5.56) are sold out or unavailable. The only ones I can find that are 14x1 LH are chambered in 7.62x39 😒.
Mine is extremely over gassed, the extractor takes a little bite out of every round and the cases are getting a decent dent from impacting something on the way out. All that and getting slung 15 feet to the 1 o’clock position
Well, in general, it looks clumsy compared to the original, but it seems to be a 3+ assembly. But the fitting of the parts is terrible, the pistol grip is terrible, a lot of extra rivets and welds, well, the cherry on the cake is the hole on the gas block at 45 degrees and in fact this is an obvious indicator that they did not quite understand why the original AK went from 45 degrees to 90, it's all about the amount of exhaust gases and their speed Especially since 5.45/5.56 speeds are even higher than in 7.62. Which in turn will increase the energy of the frame and it will beat harder against the rear liner, plus an extra load on all elements and possible deformations, well, more gases and accompanying dirt in the receiver... There is nothing to say about the use of metal, it is not known how well they have chosen the alloys for everything, although the extra welding hints that something is wrong here...
Ejection erratic as M F. Bulgarian mags & serb/German mags work well w/that type rifle. Zastava mags wider than all other 5.56AK mags. Galili don't work , woble, not set up same
First thing let me tell you whatever they tell you don't believe they said Chinese a k's when they first come out we're cheap don't buy that Pioneer It has a Polish receiver all other a k's when they say the Romanian Russian they all have American made Receiver They'll put a Romanian barrel the whole gun will be made in America and they'll tell the consumer bitter is a Romanian the weapon you're holding is a Real AKM day they like to up the height to get you to buy something they'll tell you anything by what is cheap $700 is just as good as any of theirs and what your receiver is and that is what type of gun it is it don't matter about the trigger the barrel if you don't have the receiver From that country then the gun is a USA may gun
Glad they finally went with a forged front trunnion. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
I have about 700 through mine with zero issues. So far I've used the OEM mags, AC Unity and green translucent Polish mags with success .
I wasn't crazy about the grip on mine. I wrapped it up with tennis racket grip tape. Works great.
I was always curious about some of these. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and I look forward to following along.
Thanks for watching! Hopefully next installment won’t be about reaching out to the warranty department.
They use 74 “pattern”/sized mags.
That’s why the Akm sized don’t fit, Zastava Galil sar weiger etc…
It’s basically a beryl/74 with a 45 degree sight block an 14mm threads. 22mm trunnion/thin stem bolt/and lightened carrier with 74/beryl style bullet guide. Mine has almost 5k on it. Headspaces fine, everything looks good. Small wear in up until 200 rounds or so then stopped. Only issues has been broken firing pin tip. Luckily the beryls measure the same. So I used my beryls until a spare beryl came. Still waiting for pioneer to get a shipment from Poland for warranty
Interesting, thanks for the insight regarding mags, will definitely bear in mind!
More reviews finally, I'm gonna say it I bought a 5.56 pioneer arms forged series AK myself from Atlantic firearms I'm excited and skeptical at the same time on it, knowing it's my second AK, I will have I own wasr10 I've bought that new in 2019 off Atlantic firearms for $650 and I love that AKM, but wanted a different caliber, hopefully it's a good rifle. I'm swapping the crappy commercial furniture with my surplus Bulgarian 74 stock set, and arsenal AK 5.56 74 style brake I bought for it that I have armacon thread adapter for, and my standard semi auto Romy safety selector. I have some Bulgarian commercial 74 mags with pod arms followers I bought as well. I also bought some legit polish milsurp shooter grade 30 round Beryl 5.56 mags black with steel reinforced. I have a.c. unity mags as well in 5.56, I was told they didn't hog out the mag well enough there AKM 7.62x39 has same issue from what mishaco stated.
Yeah I bought mine about a month ago and it seemed like there were hardly any reviews at the time; now there are getting to be more. Sounds like we have similar tastes, I’ve put a 74-style brake and Romanian AKM safety since this vid as well.
@@hobofactory will you be doing a part 2?
Can confirm pro mag modifications were needed to use on my M90, they work pretty well now though.
That's a nice looking AK ! And the 5.56 is a very clever choice due to the ammo ban ;)
Yep, that’s why I got the M90 as well.
I just ordered one of these just like yours, and I can't wait to get it. I think these are cool. I have a Zastava m90 and m85 pistol also, but I love the classic look.
I just got the underfolder 5.56 and am really liking it. I have several other nice 5.56 AK including Type 84 and Arsenal and though the Pioneer is evidently cheaper to mfg due to some cast parts, it looks and shoots great. For mags I use WBP, PUFGun, AC Unity aside from the Pioneer it came with. I need to find my circle 10 though I suspect it’ll be fine. Cool vid! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
I just got mine from buds gun shop for 657 for all the same reasons. I have several AK variants and needed one chambered in 5.56.
Yeah with the looming effects of the Russian ammo ban, probably a good idea to pick up a 5.56.
I have the Pioneer Arms AK-47 Underfolder 7.62 x 39mm. Very nice. Nyet. Rifle is fine.
Is it the forged or the cast model?
Forged.
@@JohnDoe-in9lc
I recently jumped on the 5.56 AK band wagon, and after a few months of watching reviews I chose the Ark-556 from PSA. The mag well was what put it on the top of the list for me. The Pioneer looks awesome.
Pufgun,and wbp magazines run in my Pioneer fine. I've had mine for about a month with no issues as of yet. RC is 1400ish Barnaul 55 fmj for what it's worth
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ok the cardboard thing was the most Polish method of packaging I think I've seen. Nice.
7:50 My conclusion is that if I was in detroit and saw you in that outfit with that gun in an alleyway, I would certainly leave you alone.
Nothing says “don’t f with me” like matching one’s trousers to one’s mags.
Michigan based
I'm looking forward to seeing the next entry for this
That gap on the rear stock is meant to be there. If the gap isn't there the laminated stock will split. It's actually a sign Pioneer know what they're doing... and you don't know what you're talking about. The things worthy of note about the stock are whether or not you can put a cleaning kit in it and that it doesn't have the reinforcing brass screw that you see on some laminated wood military AKM stocks.
Interesting, suppose I stand corrected. I never claimed to be an expert though… however I can offer you some knowledge as well that you seem to never have encountered: it’s possible to correct people without sounding like discharge-spewing dickhole. Try it sometime.
I think the trigger finger ledge on the safety is great. You talked about the welds.... it's an AK (sound of crickets). The rivets are beautiful the finish seems top notch, Mine came with the polymer stock set and everything fits flawlessly. If you want an AK that does what AK's do. Then this is a good AK to do that thing that AK's do.... WORK
After ~1200 rounds the rifle stopped working so even by the most generous criteria the quality isn’t good.
@@hobofactory Have you contacted our Customer Care Team?
@@pioneerarmscorp3587 I ended up being able to diagnose the problem and (sort of) resolve it independently. A video on the topic is in the works.
I'd like to see how it groups at 100. I'm wondering if they're using the same nitride barrels that the 556 WBP uses. Those had some reports of terrible accuracy.
Beryl is the real “Radom”. I love your videos, thank for doing the AK lords work. Hopefully she is able to perform. Merry Christmas!
I’ve definitely heard a lot of good things about the Beryl but don’t personally have any experience with them… but at the very least hope to test Beryl mags very soon. Thanks for watching!
Good video got a new subscriber 💪🏾
Thanks, and welcome!
Did it come with that sling? If not, what is the source of the sling? Thank you. I have no real interest in the Pioneer AK's but I am glad to see a good review of the 5.56 version. I look forward to part 2.
Thanks for watching! The sling was not included from the factory; I picked it up at a local surplus store.
What's your gripe about the PSA AK101, I got one for $900 and it blows this Pioneer away by a landslide! SMH
I don’t personally have a gripe, it’s a commentary on their reputation. There are plenty of bad reviews of PSA AK’s so it would seem that they’re capable of producing a good rifle, but QC is inconsistent. When they’re good they’re good and when they’re not they’re not.
PSA is building excellent quality AKs now . Most of the bashing comes from the jealous people on the Fan Boy Files. There isn't an AK manufacturer out there that hasn't had their share of problems over the years .
I have the same fancy tactical shootin pants!
Made in Poland? Hmmmmm Good information on the magazines.
It looks over gassed how about drilling at least 2 holes on the gas tube?
There is supposed to be a 1 mm gap between the stock and receiver , especially on woolen stocked rifles.
@@faschwank I have learned that since. A bit embarrassing on my part but not much I can do about it now :)
How will the AK hold up to the chamber pressure of the 556 which is about 15,000 PSI more than the 762x39
The only “ AK” I have is the later model Egyptian MISR , which I have some others
The Egyptians are pretty neat though in that at least they have some Cold War history.
Will a 74 muzzle break fit on it?
There’s a couple of options. There are 74-style brakes that have 14x1 LH threads that will fit onto this rifle directly, and there are adapters that will allow one to use other 74-pattern brakes.
@@hobofactory thanks 👍🏻 yeah after looking into this further, it seems all the 74 style brakes that are 14x1 LH (5.56) are sold out or unavailable. The only ones I can find that are 14x1 LH are chambered in 7.62x39 😒.
Have you try the ac unity mags??
I haven’t yet, but definitely will.
AC Unity are a little tight in mine but function flawlessly.
Part 2?
Yes there absolutely will be a part 2, it’s already in progress.
Seems to over gassed?
Yes, even by AK standards.
How's it gassed looks over gassed .
Mine is extremely over gassed, the extractor takes a little bite out of every round and the cases are getting a decent dent from impacting something on the way out. All that and getting slung 15 feet to the 1 o’clock position
That pistol grip looks like a Bulgarian 74 grip.
Cast bolt carrier??
Yes, looks to be cast.
the most glaring problem with Pioneer is no chrome lined barrels.
It does seem like an omission an AK but to be fair there are all sorts of 5.56 rifles that don’t have chrome-lined bores.
Instead of 40k you'll only get 35k before a barrel change lol.
Chrome lined barrels are only positive when shooting corrosive ammo, otherwise there’s no need and allot of people say chrome isn’t as accurate.
Chrome lined barrels are not necessary and AKs are usually more accurate without it.
is it nitrided?
Well, in general, it looks clumsy compared to the original, but it seems to be a 3+ assembly. But the fitting of the parts is terrible, the pistol grip is terrible, a lot of extra rivets and welds, well, the cherry on the cake is the hole on the gas block at 45 degrees and in fact this is an obvious indicator that they did not quite understand why the original AK went from 45 degrees to 90, it's all about the amount of exhaust gases and their speed Especially since 5.45/5.56 speeds are even higher than in 7.62. Which in turn will increase the energy of the frame and it will beat harder against the rear liner, plus an extra load on all elements and possible deformations, well, more gases and accompanying dirt in the receiver... There is nothing to say about the use of metal, it is not known how well they have chosen the alloys for everything, although the extra welding hints that something is wrong here...
Ejection erratic as M F. Bulgarian mags & serb/German mags work well w/that type rifle. Zastava mags wider than all other 5.56AK mags. Galili don't work , woble, not set up same
Looks like this 5.56 has a lot of recoil.
probably overgassed, more recoil but more reliable . considering the target market, they might be going for reliability
I want a 556 ak for home defense. So I'm not killing my neighbors with 762.
part 2: detonations.
Lmao we shall see
Looks well made but holy hell it looks over gassed. Like every shot is jarring
I’ve found that a 74-style brake does a decent job of taming it.
First thing let me tell you whatever they tell you don't believe they said Chinese a k's when they first come out we're cheap don't buy that Pioneer It has a Polish receiver all other a k's when they say the Romanian Russian they all have American made Receiver They'll put a Romanian barrel the whole gun will be made in America and they'll tell the consumer bitter is a Romanian the weapon you're holding is a Real AKM day they like to up the height to get you to buy something they'll tell you anything by what is cheap $700 is just as good as any of theirs and what your receiver is and that is what type of gun it is it don't matter about the trigger the barrel if you don't have the receiver From that country then the gun is a USA may gun
PSA is better
PSA is a little better but it looks like Pioneer did an excellent job putting these rifles together .
@@michaelwingreen9141 I agree
Way over gassed
A bit over gassed
Yes, you’re quite right.
Yeah . My thoughts exactly.