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i guess the romans never stood a chance against the power of non-existing reload animations.
:D Yep!
Theoretically, The lines could be shifted.
So First line fires amunition First supported by second line.
First line rotates to third line to rest/resupply second line is now First line, and so on
Ammo supple would be depleted by the time they killed 20% of the romans. So over 80% would jump the marines and they'd be dead. Guns can only last so long.
"fireline rotating" .... cutting their firepower down to half. And still doesn't solve the "ammo supply is limited to what the men carry" issue.
@LordePereira that is true the but it also did not account for the Romans having to climb over hills of bodies... they just keep coming like they weren't running over an ever increasing mountain of bodies.
also the Romans were not using any kind of ranged weapons themselves. perhaps the first battles would be something like this but the Romans would learn fast to use Ballistas and other siege weapons on them.
Those guns would have been blobs of molten metal.
It's only .45 ACP, which effective due to its size rather than a lot of hot, high-pressure gas. Plus, the military had tested M4s to the point of failure before, and they lasted about that long, firing hundreds of rounds continuously, much more ammunition carried by any soldier, and they'll typically only fail due to the gas tube melting, which the Thompson doesn't have.
Thank you.. Nice to know someone else has actually fired weapons lol
it would have been awesome to see them run out of ammo since the average soldier probably would have carried a maximum of 3-5 magazines of 30 rounds each. Then have to do hand to hand combat briefly before their quick demise.
I have a few things to point out:
1. Numbers don't always win. It is true that quantity has a quality all its own but history is full of outnumbered armies winning.
2. You aren't taking morale into the equation. Sure a human wave of 60k Romans should be able to roll right over 300 stationary Marines with Thompsons and no fortifications but do you really think they would keep climbing over their own dead to get there before saying screw this and running away? Especially when they have never seen or heard anything like this before.
3. This scenario has the Marines completely surrounded on flat open ground with no cover. These would have to be the dumbest Marines in history to allow that. If 300 Marines found themselves transported back to roman times and needed to wipe out a 60000 man roman army and somehow had the resupply needed to do it, they could do it quite easily but they would not do it like this.
"We're surrounded... that simplifies our problem."
*-Unilimited Ammo-* - -On-
*Unlimited Ammo, No Reloads* - On
*Enemy Archers* - Off
*Enemy Catapults* - Off
*Friendly Fire* - Off
Quality American made guns
"Sir, we're being surronded!"
"Good! We can fire in any direction."
surrounded*
You can do a great many things with infinite ammo and no reloading required.
THIS IS HOLLYWOOD!!!!
Infinite ammo and no reloading made the Marines win.
Colonel Pepper and barrels don't overheat either
60,000 / 300 = 200. Assuming 100% accuracy and 1 shot = 1 kill, each soldier would only need to carry 10 magazines with him (for the Thompson's standard 20 round mag) or 4 magazines (for the 50 round mag). The reload speed and ammo capacity is fine, it's the 1 bullet per 1 dead Roman while firing full auto which makes this all rather silly. I'd rather see 50 Thompsons with proper reloads and burst fire vs The entire Persian Army at a choke point like Marathon or Thermopylae to be honest.
Even if they only hit 66% of their targets, the Romans would have retreated long before they ran out of ammo. Their 60,000 man force would have been reduced to 50% in a matter of minutes. Not knowing that ammo is limited, they would have fled the battle.
so this is...
The year is 50 BC. Gaul is entirely occupied by the Romans. Well, not entirely... One small village of indomitable Gauls still holds out against the invaders....
they dont use any magic potion though...XD
unlimited971 asterix and obelix
Lol hell yeah xd
When Caesar campaigned into Britain he found plenty of problems, his ships were damaged by a storm, and the local savages painted their faces with woad, blending with the teal-green ground of the region, making their ambushes with Thompson submachine guns devastating.
I think I need to read De Bello Gallico again! Seem to have missed that part!
Celts, normans and anglo saxons weren't quite that deadly for another 2,000 years, but we made up for lost time.
Arfor Afro
Yeah and thank God the marines left their standard 30rd stick magazines behind, and equipped themselves with 2,000rd Hollywood magazines. Also it's clear that they used the special Hollywood ammunition that has more power than regular rounds, but dont cause the receiver or barrel to heat up in the slightest, so that you can ditch the concept of burst fire, instead you can continuously fire without any overheating concerns!
Arfor Afro #BitterWeedsInEngland
This is the best comment on TH-cam. Ever.
Must be nice to have unlimited ammo. lol
And no need to reload, and guns that never jam/misfire, or gun barrels that don't get so hot they fail. These were marines with Thompson Submachine guns. It's .45 caliber ammo is a low velocity handgun round and at that distance probably would not have pierce the thick wood shields and the metal and leather armor.
They have an ammo machine
Greg Carroll it absolutely would out to 800 yards
Hey, it's 200 to 1, they had to do something. OK, how about 100 modern soldiers, with miniguns and unlimited ammo vs the same 60K Romans???
Chesty. I would also point out that after the first few ranks were mowed down, there would be blood in front of the advancing troops that wouldn't have soaked into the ground yet making things rather slick. And then there is the pile of bodies the Romans in the back ranks would have to climb/walk over.
Just to remind you , there's a word called *limited* * ammunition*
Just to remind you, if an ancient man heard a gun, he would run for his life as those in front of him fell to what he would be the power of the gods.
Just to remind you, sadly, for you, that cannot be proved, unlike the limited ammo. So you just fell short with that. Also this is not a simulator since those 300 were shooting like a fkn arcade video game, and even with unlimited ammo, 3 min of constant shooting, it would probably burned all marines hands.
It would not have burned their hands, and yes, at the first serious open fire call, the Roman Generals would have retreated from such a weapon. They would not have known it could run out of ammo. Every time a major army in history, was faced with a new devastating weapon, either retreat or surrender followed.
Shh THIS IS HOLLYWOOD BABY
So... the 1st battle in history where fire arms were used against a regular army, was an instant win, every1 started to run in panic, or generals called a retreat in the 1st min of the battle... weird that no historian ever registered that, being such a strange thing. Even chinese when they started to use rockets and a lot of weird inventions with powder didn't do it so well... they didn't conquered whole asia with just the fear to unknown in battle... so pls, I'm asking one fact, not hundred theories, this is history and reality, even more with a "simluator".
Ah yes, this is from the great American Roman War when the United States conquered the Roman Empire, my grandfather was a veteran. It was a terrible conflict and it's a shame there aren't more memorials dedicated to it.
Formidable Foe a truly horrific time in history!
genius!
It's sad that most people don't know that this battle led up to the Bowling Green Massacre.
+Colin Williams True as stated, but we wouldn't know of those Byzantine WMD if it wasn't for ensuing war.
If my history is right, it only ended when Theodore Roosevelt personally challenged Caesar Augustus to a drinking contest which ended with Caesar dying of alcohol poisoning and Roosevelt laughing his ass off.
Truly, Teddy was the greatest American president.
This simulation fails to account for the Romans losing control of their bowels, and the Marines having a timewarp hangover.
Also marines had infinite amo 😂😂😂
Damn 30 million round magazines!
Don't tell CNN!
Bill Melater
Indeed !!
Alex : ... even at only a 50% kill rate each solider would only need 400 rounds that's like only 12 or 14 magazines depending on exact capacity.
@@billmelater6470 First off, I dont think you could talk 300 jars into wearing those russian looking uniforms, and
helmets. And just to make sure they woudnt do it, hand them one of those Thompsons with a 100lb. mag!
Sorry bill
This was for mike baxter
the marines shoot each other without dying!?
yogioto they all shot in different directions
look in the middle and you see a few shots going across to other sides of the square.
Yeah, killing underdeveloped sand tribes from distance is all that this imperial guys can do.
They say marines don't die, They just go to hell and regroup. ( Devil-Dogs )
Well, and they have very big magazines apparently...
Would 300 marines be able to carry carry 60000 rounds of .45 acp?
gq4101 its only 200 rounds per person
The magazine they show in the game are the 30 round magazines. If all the marines had just 1 magazine then they would have enough for 9000. To have enough for 60k, they each would have to carry 7(actually 6.66666...,) giving them spare for a few misses but not very many. They would have to each use 1 round per roman.
in full auto the first 30 rounds whould be in 1 guy, reloading and 30 rounds again either missing or put in just one or two guyz :P
you whould need more than 10x the ammount of bullets than the numbers of romans to stand and spray like that ;-)
I gotta agree with Lurkens, 60 000 rounds for 60 000 targets is beyond optimistic. The least you would use is 3 bullets per a roman, and that's still optimistic.
u have obviously never shot a gun before
"The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant, that few stood against many, and before this battle was over, even a US Marine can bleed."
Thr Romans weren't supid, they would have retreated shortly after the first shots were fired.
Firstly, in this game there are attacking like barbarians - no tackic
Man those aint no US soldiers, those are Cyborgs with unlimited reloading capacity shooting machine Guns!
Namgr191 ya seriously
Namgr191 yes, i was thinking same thing. No reload, endless ammo. I'm pretty sure 60.000 soldiers could storm those soldiers even bare handet.
That's merica my boy
Lmao haha.
He never said they were US soldiers, can you not read the title? It says MARINES
Ah, yes I see. Forgot 1940's marines had bottomless clips
and that friendly fire was off in ww2
Aviatorwolf573 well ww2 American forces would also have artillery behind them...
Yeah, it's strange so many people forget that about marines. You would think people would catch on to that.
Magazines dammit, *magazines!*
THANK YOU
The unknowing enemy would immediately quit after seeing this kind of strike on them. They would assume the Marines were GODS and ran in the other direction.
So. Each soldier would have to carry 200 rounds. Plausible. However, that assumes that every single bullet found a unique target AND was a kill shot. Not plausible.
Derek Allyn You can't miss a horde of enemies. A machine can kill large groups of enemies very quickly. A horde of enemies is like shooting at a wall but it gets smaller the more you shoot it
Even if they had 1000 rounds each it wouldn't have been enough. Also, why did the USMC let themselves get boxed in?
The 45 cal. rounds could easily penetrate a soldier and kill the one behind.
JKay11235 I do. I own that weapon. It'll cut through that soft metal like butter.
Like Sidney Fein said, the 45 ACP would easily penetrate the soft bronze armor. And it wouldn't have to be a body shot. A shot to the arm or leg would be fatal. The Germans and Japanese dreaded the 45 ACP during WW2 because it caused so much damage.
Good thing they had those shields
Weren't shields only made of wood?
unlimited ammo for the win
Sorry stop watching movies it would not have stopped any rounds brass is very weak and like the simulation would have been swiss cheese
Full metal jacket would easily pierce through. However, the brass shields wouldn't have done anything to stop the regular bullets.
hahahahaha
And that is how the US army kicked the roman empires ass, remember this for your history test.
Jacob Kolb lol, this is not the U.S. Army, its the Marine Coprs, there's a difference. They are completely different branches of the military
don't let a marine catch you saying that
Jacob Kolb Not army. Marines. Remember that when you meet a marine.
dude, its a joke, I know the difference, chill.
led by george washington undre general Eisenhower command
These marines reload about as often as Selene in Underworld
I'd be inclined to think they would totally freak out and not even advance on the marines with strange weapons like that
Loud thunderous sounds , Nearby comrades falling as if by magic. most of the roman casualties would be fleeing troops shot in the back.
Probably be thinking an an Army of the Gods had come to Earth and they have angered them. LOL
Ya think?
Smartie LOL
@@frankenz66 this reminds me of a cpt. Fetterman? was it? Who said he could ride through Sioux country with just 80 troopers.
Custer: "aaahh, I dont
think so Cpt."
I call hax. America clearly had infinite ammo and bottomless clips enabled.
mags*
bullet tubs*
Magazine's, not clip's. Stripper clip's are metal "clip's" that the bullets slide and lock into, allowing the bullets to be stripped off of the clip into the weapons built in magazine. an external box magazine is an enclosed spring that house's the bullets holding them in with feed lip's at the top of the magazine which are then rammed out of the mag by the bolt into the weapons breach one at a time per shot. A clip, or stripper clip is usually only really seen with bolt action rifles or rifles like the M1 Garand. So please, if its an AR, AK, any kind of pistol that isn't a revolver, its magazine, if its a bolt action rifle, M1 Garand ect, then you can say clip. This is like the equivalent of calling an electric guitar an acoustic guitar, and the other way around, they both do pretty much the same thing, but there's obvious differences. Spread the word and tell your friends so hopefully one day we wont have to cringe each time someone calls a mag a "clip". lol
To everyone saying mags, not clips, yes, I'll admit I was wrong. I was referring to video game hacks, which often refer to what is essentially the 'no reloads' cheat as being 'bottomless clips'. At least, that's what I always call that sort of hack.
Also, Matt Robinson, while we're being pedantic, since you're so smart, you should know that you don't use apostrophes for plurals. But you knew that already, being smart and whatnot.
How does a bottomless MAG get loaded?
Clips........???
*this makes no sense*
SupaEMT134
Why? It's a game...
*doesn't have to*
Possibly the best comment on this thread. Infinite ammo vs. Romans attacking with an undisclosed attack plan. Not only that, but the fact that dead bodies don't get in the way, combined with the lack of ranged weapons from the Romans means that this is essentially meaningless.
@Atheist Avenger You know you lost an argument when you have to ask someone to go away.
This video is the equivalent of NIST's computer model of the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7
Fallout: New Vegas (2011)
Roman soldier- Fight for the glory of Rome.
US soldier- GET SOME, GET SOME.
and thats the true story of the 300
aw
Nah, the Greeks had a LOT more than 300 at Thermopolye
Yeah the 300 were Spartans, they also had a ton of slaves and soliers from other parts of Greece, but the Spartans were the stars
The Spartans numbered 300 out of about 6,000 to 11,000 Greeks. I believe that a lot of that force was Athens. I think that the Spartans may have been there to act as reserves, as they were behind the athenian soldiers.
The 300 were the ones to make the last stand though, which is where the movie which inspired the comic which inspired the famous movie draws its own inspiration from.
Leonidas took command of the mixed forces of Spartans, Athenians, Thebians and other city state troops because the Spartans were the only full time soldiers there. The Spartans would NEVER have lined up behind the Athenians as the Spartans considered the Athenians soft and not very good soldiers. They proved that when they attacked, sacked and burnt Athens.
You guys are taking this shit way too seriously. Jesus Christ.
IT SAZ SIMULATION BRO
It is a serious issue. it's worth my time even though I have to study.
Marcellus Wallace I'm going for my GED test today
yes
no one is taking it serious or else they would begin to learn how to make simulation games. its just the logic that goes is not matching the sim... :)
Pretty depressing that we're interested in something like this.
This is not realistic what so ever the guns would have overheated and they would have run out of ammo , not to mention killing each other with friendly fire.
The set up is completely unrealistic - to begin with, almost all the Marines would be prone or kneeling to maximize their effectiveness. But the outcome is about right. On average each Marine would have to kill 200 attackers, which with aimed shots (rather than full auto) against attackers not using cover or concealment would be quite possible.
The chief difficulty is that the standard combat load appears to be about 210 to 240 rounds, so every one of those soldiers would have to make almost every shot count - however, if they knew what they were going to go up against (doesn't seem likely here as if they knew what they were up against they wouldn't let themselves be surrounded) they might take along more. But there would also be a few soldiers with heavy weapons and more ammunition, plus other weapons such as hand grenades and grenade launchers - which with such close formations could do tremendous damage.
The chief thing protecting the Marines would be the much superior range of their weapons. They would have several opportunities to kill an attacker before he got within range to hurt them. The second thing protecting them, of course, would be the fact that the attackers would quickly turn and run in the face of such superiority.
That's an aimed kill shot at 200 running guys before they have the chance to close the gap. Even with iron nerves and the world's steadiest hand that's a lot of precise shooting, especially for a SMG.
It’s a game
MrLeonightis bro it’s a ducking game dumbass
I love how mad everyone is getting
Not as much as I love panic which isnt actually there.. *In movie intro guy voice* THE PHANTOM PANIC
I know right, americans wish they had that kind of firepower...don't know why they get so angry when we show them doing something they couldn't possibly be doing in RL
Backward logic - what you said is stupid as in your scenario it would be good propaganda for the US to say they could beat 1mill soldiers.
I bet the majority of the people downvotkng are actually Americans who are educated and realize this is stupid nobody is getting mad.
Also the bodies of the romans would pile up also
haha
bunch of cry babies XD
They should have ran out of ammo and the Romans should have overwhelmed them
This is a video game
tomurg Ikr, that's some crazy shit.
They have grenades as well.
Life is Good They used Mk 2 Frag Grenades at the time.
tomurg damn hackers
It's amazing how they never have to reload
Huge advantage to the Marines. No cover for the Romans, no need to reload, infinite ammo, no overheats, and no malfunctions. Cool shit though, keep it up.
So unlimited ammo versus an unintelligent Roman commander with no ballista or other range weapons?
#Murica
Yes, it was obviously very contrived, and neither side had their most devastating weapons- no ballistas or ranged weapons for the Romans; no Sherman tanks fitted with flame throwers , fighters or bombers for the Marines.
i didn't see any marines reloading
OK. Lets do this right.
1. These are WWII Marines. So, first, switch the Thompsons out for M1 Garands firing the venerable 30-06 round.(We will ignore the Ma Deuce)
2. Give them the standard 80 rds of that time.(Keep in mind, that some used bandoleers and carried more.
3. Give them a standard 1911 side arm with 3 6 rd magazines.
Now, at this range and proximity of the Romans, every 30-06 round will penetrate at least 2 bodies if hit in the chest cavity, 3 if somewhere softer like the gut, neck, or head. Just a powerful FMJ round. For the sake of this argument, we will keep it simple at 2 bodies per round. Also, being that the Marines at this time were taught to hit with every round and not just spray and pray, you can count on a 99-100% accuracy rating at this range.
4. 300 Marines with 80 rounds of Ammo at 2 bodies a pop is 48k dead or wounded.
5. Marines would then switch to sidearms(we are also assuming that none of the Marines are carrying grenades) , so we have another 5400 rounds of 45. ACP Ammo. This will leave ~6000 Romans left when Ammo runs out.(We are assuming no three body penetrations with the Garand, and no 2 body penetrations with the 1911s.
6. This can go one of two ways depending on how much fantasy you want to use. One, the Romans know what a gun is and that there is limited ammo, and the General in command does not mind wasting 90% of his legion to win, or that when the General has seen half of his forces fall to these 'boom sticks' without one single casualty of the enemy, he would use sound strategy and retreat.
Now, you have a fair fight with scenarios in which both forces win. You have the imaginary ending, and the more likely ending.
FWIW, I should mention that I also never included the possibility of a resupply for the Marines as it would have to be by land or airplane as helicopters were new and didnt shine until the Korean war.
M1 Garands are not fully automatic. You have to reload every few rounds too. Also, those suckers are heavy. So, after a few shots, your arms may begin to give out lowering accuracy. If you ever get the chance to fire one, (assuming you haven't which you probably have) take the opportunity! My point being, the time it would take to fire all 24k rounds is probably much longer than the time it would take for the Romans to close the gap. They may not get the chance to fire all of those rounds before the Romans are on them. Then it's hand to hand between 300 Marines and no telling how many thousands of Roman soldiers. Just a few other factors to consider. :P
In reality they would run out of ammo.
Litvin
Unless all of them were armed with M249s
and ofc hit their armour and shields
Then they would kill them all by hand. Ha ha. J/K
More like guns overheat before running out of ammo.
This is an extremely unrealistic simulation lol
You know the saying "Don't Bring Swords To A Gun Fight" ?? They should have listened...
what about a knife in a nuke fight?
all you have to do is press a button and KABoom!!
Romans: sword and shield
Marines: machine guns with unlimited rounds
Marines don't stand a chance
This is why we need to have laws regulating magazine capacity.
#BanInfiniteAmmunition
Fuhq Ewe Bah, next thing you'll do after taking our infinite ammo is taking away our right to free speech and make us slaves!
Shred Xorn Suchka, pozhaluysta. they'd have to do more than that to make us slavs
up you goo
Shred Xorn Prosti menya tovarishch.
The logic of this video is no different from this: "one million marines vs. Darth Vader. Darth Vader won because he died in Episode VI".
Wow dude, spoiler alert!
What spoilers? The movie was aired in 1983 and you do not want me to spoil it?
I'm still on episode V man
I'm still on episode I, with that annoying kid who is going to save the galaxy someday. Who is this so-called Darth Vader fella that you speak of?
Spolier: Carrie Fisher dies.
Ah yes, the Romans. Famed throughout history for their tactic of immediately breaking ranks and rushing headlong at an enemy with superior arms.
The US marines would have killed each other with "friendly fire", leaving all 60000 Romans.
Is this the trailer for Bullshit: Total War?
Grade School E-Peen Simulator: Total War.
Thats been every total war game for the last few years
Well..... I'd say that Total War Warhammer was pretty fun
Are you real life or just fantasy?
Do you want to play age of empires with me
people take shit too serious. "where's the archers blah blah blah" a nuke dropped at the end ok? Advanced war wins
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_(short_story)
Good luck with that against a fucking nuke
merlinthegray Because it's a game.... it ended w a bomb drop.
Oh the outrage! This is so unrealistic, fighting on a city size sheet of graph paper lol.
The assault rifles never need a magazine reload, continue shooting for minutes without getting hot, and the dead roman bodies dont pile up but lay flat on the ground by the thousands. Epic indeed :)
Then Russia just HAD to get involved in the end.
Jared Davis a pleasant change from the Americans
Jared Davis u mean north korea
well u did get involved in the first place :)
shit, what you know about russia?
I am Russian
nobody thinks of the poor CPU...#cpulivesmatter
Brit3149 I see you're of the Master Race. It's ok - a Divine Race lord like myself understands your grievances.
Carlo Sproule go forth and hail gaben my son. Spread our lords word. No longer will cpus be treated in this manner.
Brit3149 not if you have 6700k
I'm ready to see this run on threadripper
Worst part was it wasn't even overclocked...the savages, how can they do this?
Assuming they never miss a shot, the 1,800 lbs of ammo (816kg) comes out to 6lbs of ammo per person. Not unreasonable to carry actually.
No Marines dead, ludicrous. Romans carried spears.
1,000,000 gerbils vs. 1,000 Richard Geres
Wat
10,000,000 Joe Pantoliano's vs. 9,000,000 Joe Piscopos vs 10,000 beavers
Gerbils: ATTAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!
GERE: HUAGGHHHH!!! *runs charging with his sword*
Urban legend, RG liked gerbils up his ass.
Don Wayne His birth name was Richard Gerbil but he changed it.
60k rounds and not one misfire or jam?
It's not the real world, they weren't supplied by US military contractors.
Michael Price lol
10,000,000 grizzly bears vs. one slow-witted, overweight child, covered in honey and equipped only with a boy scout pocket knife.
One problem with this setup: Marines would run out of bullets long before Romans would run out of bodies.
Why people be hating this? It's freaking epic, who cares if it's unrealistic?
I'm pretty sure the delay the marines would have had reloading is less than the delay the Romans would have had running over the bodies of their fellow soldiers. The simulation doesn't compensate for either of those factors, so it more or less evens out in the end.
I wonder how many Romans would have to be mowed down before the rest of the army fled though? With coordination there could be whole ranks dead in just a few minutes, which is intimidating to say the least, when the furthest you can throw a projectile with considerable accuracy is maybe a few dozen yards if even that.
And weapon jams due to overheating?
actually, reloading would've been faster, if I recall, during respites in ancient battles, both sides would send out slaves to haul dead bodies off the field to make it easier for the soldiers to kill each other in the coming battle
Each marine has to kill 200 romans - I'm more worried about overheating barrels than the need to reload, assuming unlimited ammo.
obliviouz If they have unlimited ammo, why wouldn't they have auto-cooling barrels?
Man didn't know that US Marines never had to reload their weapons.
so they win if they have unlimited bullets and they never have to reload , what a great sim
So the Marines are the modern day 300
well there using Thompson's so more likely first second ww
Marines are, how do I out it, just Marines.
They've got us surrounded, the poor bastards! Fire in all directions!
Overlooked 2 things.
1. Extreme shock of firearms centurys before their advent.
2. Marines would never carry enough ammo to kill that many men.
Now, if the Tommy guns had limited ammo, this would've been a much different story
Anyone else notice the Marines aren't reloading? They apparently have bottomless magazines.
Hundreds of marines would have died from shooting eachother in the back.
It's called "crouching". Back when firearms were used in formation, people did it all the time.
Formation lawsuits. There's something I've got to see.
If you're the guy pointing the gun back at your own formation and they aren't crouched you can also hold the gun over your head and angle it up slightly.
or there guns bursting into flames
In Grenada the Marines attacked a unoccupied police station and a empty soccer stadium. Resulting in 11 wounded Marines.
It's like that part in the Matrix sequel where they're in the mechs, defending Zion
As a former military officer, I will say that this simulation ignores strategy, particularly the maneuver strategies. The Marines could not have won outright, because of ammo, unless their gunfire would have just chased the Romans off in fear, because the Romans were not used to hearing it. But the Marines would not have lost either.
What I think the Marines would have done is create a multi-layered moving wedge formation and used single fire, not full auto. They would have pierced the Roman circle at a weak point to escape. That would have made the Roman archers unusable against the wedge, because the Romans would have had to fire on their own people. Once out of the circle, the Marines would have done a rapid tactical retreat. They could have run farther and faster than the Romans, who would have wanted to stay in some formation and stay with their leadership. Cavalry could have outpaced them, but Roman cavalry was sparse and they were used more as skirmishers and scouts. They were not horse-bourne fighters like later cavalry.
Pursing Romans would have been taken down easily as long as the ammo held. I think the Marines could have gotten away.
If the Marines were 100% accurate and the bullets did not ricochet and/or pass through and kill anyone else, every single Marine would have to carry approximately 7 magazines to have enough bullets to kill every single roman soldier considering all of the guns they were using were the M1A1 Thompson and typically those use a 30 rnd box mag. If all of the marines had at least 83% accuracy, they could kill all of the romans with 8 magazines each and a few bullets to spare. Not to mention that the officers will probably have side-arms. This might actually be possible IRL if the Marines knew what fight they were in for and packed extra ammo.
Stephen Hawking you need a girlfriend
Stephen Hawking the Roman tower shield and their armor would be enough to either stop the bullets or at least require 4 shots before the Roman went down. in today's age we have been brought up to look down on the armor of old. when in reality armor was made obsolete because of mobility issues and the fact that early guns were upwards of .50 cal. but guns today have much smaller caliber. a 9mm bullet would likely be stopped by a Roman Scutum. and add the armor and muscle of the romans troops? those Tommy bullets have allot of work to do.
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For what it is worth, the images reflect the marines use of Thompson sub-machine guns, so these would be Marines from around the time of WWI or WWII. At the inferred range those wooden shields will not stop a .45acp. Given roman armor is iron mail or strips and not steel, and cannot be overly thick due to weight, I strongly doubt it would stop .45acp. But a fully auto Thompson (which it appears to be) would suffer from accuracy issues, however, given the initial engagement range, requires holding elevation without much need for precise targeting given the mass of bodies in the line of fire, accuracy doesn't matter much to start out.
So assuming the marines were carrying around 14 magazines a piece, using newer WWII era 30 rd magazines, not the earlier 20 rd iteration, and had decent fire control they stand a chance. (I may be generous at a 1 kill per 2 shot average). But, very atypical to be running around that heavy with magazines, then or now. In the closed ranks formation shown, I would put my money on the Romans winning in the end just due to numbers and the inability to carry that much ammo per marine. Better Roman strategy would be to wait and harass until the marines either starve or run out of ammo. Of course there are counter options for the marines and given the firepower discrepancy, the slightest bit of tactics would ensure a roman slaughter. History is replete with examples of the gun beating out the sword/armor despite being vastly outnumbered.
Thank you, Mr. Hawking.
"Sir, we're surrounded!" "Good, we got em' right where we want em'!"
I love how you ended it with 300 US Marines VS 1 US Airman.
The reality is the Romans would all bow down and worship the Marines after the first shots, thinking the Marines were gods. So this battle would end right after getting started.
If this was real the marines would of been swarmed within a minute.
Very hard to swarm when you're trying to run over the piles of corpses in front of you, and you're terrified of something you've never heard before...gunfire.
The Zulu did it :P albeit not against machine guns.
chuck norris
well in real life i don't think the 300 marines will have a combined amount of 60k bullets, but by the time they run-out of ammo the roman will be scared by the marines like if they view the powers of gods
Actually shadow, if they were all carrying the M249, each man would have a basic combat load of 800-1000 rounds (the amount is subject to unit guidelines). So you're looking at anywhere from 240,000 to 300,000 rounds of ammunition. Even is they all carried an M4, which has a basic combat load of 210 rounds, they would have 63,000 rounds of ammunition. Most likely scenario would be one m249 or even an M240B for every 10 soldiers which comes to 30 of those and 270 M4's. Thus we have approximately 86,700 rounds, and that's assuming no one brought extra ammo (we always brought extra when we went on patrol).
where were the roman archers?
Mos of them have killed them selfs using the powerful cross-bow, as they cound't figure it out.
ANd some were only 5years old of age. Archers in making.
The same place the marine land vehicles and aircraft were.
The same place the marine land vehicles and aircraft were.
EliteTeamKiller Ben Comparing archers to vehicles...
So not vehicles, just marine mortar teams and machine gun teams (the mortars would likely take out ballistas and archers quite handily). Of course the marines would be standing around a modest sized pyramid of ammo, for all the shooting they did (they seem to be benefiting from infinite ammo and no heating/jamming problems), while the Romans would be climbing over (and hiding behind) ever larger piles of bodies. The simulation leaves a lot to be desired.
We're surrounded!
GREAT! We've got'em just where we want 'em!
Nice. Whoever said war doesn't bring peace, has never stood in a cemetery. ;)
the courier has rallied 300 men consisting of individuals trained and equipped in the fashions of the second largest pre-war conflict, only next to the great war, known as the second world war, in an attempt to hold off 60000 caesar's legionaries from the control room at the dam
JooseMunkee from the divide
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huang peter you are a fkin god
You could always wait for them at the hot gates, where their numbers mean nothing
Someone provides entertainment that's harmless, yet people find a reason to complain. How ungrateful, and pathetic.
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Mafi Picko cyka blyet.
well because the game says simulator, at least they should put reload animation there even the ammo is unlimited
HentEye so is you attempt to belittle someone on the internet. You fucking hypocrite. Bitching about my input. These people are complaining about balancing issues of the fight. They won't just enjoy it. There's a difference between an opinion, and being overly skeptical.
Satria Dwi thats not the creator's fault.
must be a Hollywood film, the gun's never run out of ammo.
Guys we may need to reconsider the Area 51 raid.
I have a problem with this: the Marines get endless ammo.
300 against 60000? They'd have run out of ammo before the other side ran out of men.
Russel Murphy Romans would have retreated o. the mere sight of a gun though
Probably not: after all, how would they know what they were looking at, O 12-yo?
Russel Murphy Well if you've never seen a gun before but whatever it is it's killing hundreds of your friends effortlessly we can assume you'd know it's a pretty scary thing.
Guns overheat; they'd be fucked firing on full-auto even with infinite ammo.
Didn't think about that, but yeah: the barrels would get that hot the ammo would cook off as it was being put into the breech, plus the barrels would start to warp. There are a few precedents for the ammo cooking off, but the one I have in mind is Rorke's Drift, where the barrels of the Martini-Henry single-shots got so hot that not only did the ammo cook off when chambered the barrels actually started to glow and badly burnt the hands of the men using them (they started tying rags and leather scraps around the barrels so as to be able to handle them).
Then there's the problem of fouling from both propellent and projectile. After a few hundred rounds without cleaning the rounds would jam in the barrels, with predictable results.
inaccurate: real Marines would've advanced.
real marines would have had a better fighting position
Real marines would be been slaughtered mercilessly
Kit Kat Real marines call for CAS
real romans would have advanced in formation...smart marines would have let that number approach them...
I don't know who "Feal marines" are but _real_ marines would have slaughtered the Romans mercilessly.
StarCraft Marines right here. These guys never reload!
60000 Romans vs Chuck Norris is the Ultimate Epic
marines win
*you have been banned from epic battle simulator for using a reloading hack*
Oh boo whoo whoo , you used a reloading hack . Like there's not bigger problems in the world other than a nerdy gamer. SMH
Timothy Konieczny hahaha
Ray Wang yep
Dat flower though
Yeah, it seems a little familiar.
Explain?
Vulpes Wow. Watch the video.
Wiserblock Gaming Why does the Undertale fandom have to ruin everything?
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People disliked because it's not reflective of reality? Lmao.
The ending pretty much describes the real feeling of war. (talking from experience)
Rome Total War Music. Loved it
KEEP IT UP I WANT MORE SLAUGHTER WITH ARCHERS PLEASE
A cyborg wolf-shark hybrid vs. the kid who played Ferris Bueller's sidekick.
These marines are carrying a LOT of extra magazines.
LMFAO At all the people complaining about realism. SMH.
clearly the purpose of these kind of videos, or lack of it, went right over their heads.
To be clickbaity garbage for them Jewtube view monies?
it Says SIMULATOR! fck it is...
Well then it's really shitty at being what it's supposed to be. A simulator. Why can't you understand that?
+urmo345 did goat simulator make you mad because it isn't an accurate simulation of a goat?
marines wisely used the cheat code for infinite ammo
These Romans had no arrow and sling troops, which removed their ability to use missile warfare against the Marines. I'm guessing the idea was to pit one type of troop against one type of enemy troop and see who wins in a battle to the death. Pretty cool, if a bit inaccurate as both sides would have brought more weapons to the battle. I wanna see more!
Okay, now let's give the Romans Kevlar® shields and re-run the sim.
Interesting how one flank of Marines never broke rank.
Why the fuck are people bitching about the realism on a game called "ultimate epic battle simulator"?
simulation implies at least some measure of realism.
You clearly haven't followed the development of this game.
AwoundedX well they do die! /haha :)
Because then it is not a simulation. It is bullshit. That would be like NASA calling a Space Shuttle "simulation" flying it with the reaction of a tank full of of diet coke and Mentos.
"Why the fuck are people bitching about the realism on a game called "ultimate epic battle simulator"?"
Because, genius, if you play a game called "epic battle simulator" that lets you pit armies from different eras against each other, then you want to see what happens when you PIT ARMIES FROM DIFFERENT ERAS AGAINST EACH OTHER. If one of those armies is given MAGIC POWERS like machine guns that never need to be reloaded--it RUINS the whole concept behind the game.
Might as well give the Marines laser rifles. Be about as pointless.
But then again, you--and the people stupid enough to up vote your comment--probably wouldn't see a problem with that, either.
The Romans break formation immediately... I would like to see this tried in the future with more accurate representations of actual tactics and behaviour. The Romans were absolutely incredible. Far advanced in many ways, even compared to modern civilisation.
Guess each marine had a million rounds and didn't ever need to reload.