I've always appreciated the fact that Smash Bros.'s actual story is that it's just a kid smashing action figures together to make them fight. That truly is the best justification you can have for that kind of game.
I think a smash bros film could potentially work like that, where the point of the movie is mainly just cool character interactions and sick fights without much need for setup. I understand and hard agree with Schaff's argument about how there shouldn't be an NCU, but I feel like he missed the point that you really don't need one for a Smash Bros movie, nor do you need that much setup for it. I think most people would accept it taking place in some non-canon inbetween world like in Subspace without worrying too much about it. Not saying such a film such necessarily be made - the other problems the list are still completely valid, but I don't think the film hinging on an ncu is one of them.
I think the premise of Smash Bros with the characters being toys is far more appealing than people give it credit for. It opens the door for ANYONE, being the kid who puts these toys together. Not just Sakarai or Andy from Toy Story, but ANYONE can be Master and Crazy Hand.
Tbh I say splatoon is probably the most feasible Nintendo ip for illumination to make a movie out of. I mean splatoon looks cartoony sings pop songs (like in SING but in Inklish), and fricken Sheldon basically looks like a skinnier minion.
@@bwahhhhhhhh splatoon is basically Nintendo's own shooting game, it's colorful, has many pop culture reference, pretty decent lore, so I think illumination tackling on a splatoon movie is not a bad idea. Also btw, splatoon is the number 1 vg that Japanese gamers hope to have an anime.
Kirby can work, if the first part of the film is insanely kid friendly, then the second part scalates to an action packed adventure and the third act is pure Lovecraftian horror.
Yoshi Wario Luigi's mansion DK country Captain Toad those are the easy ones just using the mainstream Mario characters and all already introduced (except Wario) in the movie That's not counting punch out (which seems canon in-universe) or wrecking crew (kinda curious of what a wrecking crew movie would be like, but we had Spike)
@@IcyDiamond simple plot for a Wario movie: Wario and Waluigi work for wrecking crew (allows you to reuse Spike) They get contracted by the Mushroom Kingdom to clear up some ruins (they get a recommendation from Mario because the princess asked the Mario brothers and it's not a job for them or the Toads) Ruins turn out to be treasure-laden and it turns into a treasure hunt. Include hijinks, pirates, a few cameos from warioware characters Give Waluigi some nice screentime, he deserves it Boom, success
Wario could be introduced in a mario movie sequel as a villain, gets his standalone movie where he's an adventurer/treasure hunter, like the actual transition from Mario Land 2 to Wario Land 1. I think the transition of him being a treasure hunter to a washed up videogame company CEO could work (Wario Land to WarioWare), but i'm not sure how much
I would love if it didn't have any voices like they did with shawn the sheep. I would also like if they made it harm warming at the end where olimar gets to see his family
Honestly, my first thought after finishing the Mario movie was “I hope they do a Luigi’s Mansion movie”. It wasn’t “I hope they do a Smash Bros movie”. Mario is big enough as is and you can make so much from this one franchise
its illumination, they're gonna find a way to make it inoffensive and hollow, although a laika zelda movie would be sick (as someone who has never played a zelda game)
It's simple: People don't want movies for the interesting plots, messages or style; people just want to see the products they recognize from their childhood in another medium just because. Now, imagine a buch of products sharing screentime toguether, that's a money printer if I ever saw one.
People gets exited when they see their favorite character on the big screen, but then people starts criticize the product for the story and plot and what the characters do in the movie/show
And that sort of nostalgia pandering is why media like Ready Player One gets absolutely clowned on, so I really don't get why people gun for it so hard bc even if they did make a Smash Bros movie, all the complaints would just be how *their* favourite character was mischaracterized/underutilized anyway
Why does the smash movie need lore involved. Literally just do the "portals opened in different universes" thing, ignore each individual characters lore, and have them work toward defeating a common threat. While getting used to coexisting with a bunch of weirdos.
@@victorford5047 Well its not like they would give enough of a shit to make a movie that incoporates all the lore of each franchise. I know that would suck, im just thinking in terms of what would probably be done.
@@victorford5047 IDEALLY every character has a pivotal role, is 100% lore accurate and they come up with a reason for all of them to exist in the same universe without breaking any continuity, its heartfelt, exciting and action packed and the villain is Master Hand but with a cool personality/motivation or somethin like that. But we're never getting that movie.
The tonal differences of these franchises would definitely make it more difficult. Imagine Chrom Fire Emblem says something like “my older sister died” and then Kirby is just like “POYO”. Heck in Smash itself the characters don’t really say much
The Mario universe is pretty much as expansive as the MCU. Making a Smash Bros movie would be more similar to shoving Marvel, DC, Star Wars, Spongebob, LOTR, Mickey Mouse, Forest Gump, and Despicable Me into a movie together than just making a "new MCU".
“The scene where Batman, Jar Jar Binks, Squidward, Donald Duck, Gandalf, Lieutenant Dan, and Vector all sacrificed themselves to stop Kang The Conquerer was iconic.”
@thefatpiranhaplant2619 yeah, gotta say that when Gandalf the Grey, and Gandalf the White, and Monty Python and the Holy Grail's Black Knight, and Benito Mussolini, and the Blue Meanie, and Cowboy Curtis, and Jambi the Genie, Robocop, the Terminator, Captain Kirk, Darth Vader, Lopan, Superman, every single Power Ranger, Bill S. Preston, and Theodore Logan, Spock, The Rock, Doc Ock, and Hulk Hogan showed up and beat up Chuck Norris, I went insane from the hype
A Splatoon Anime would be fun as I could see it being a Spy/Sports Anime where an Inkling has to balance life between their competitive Turf/Ranked sessions and stopping whatever Agents are dealing with.
“Why can’t a movie be a movie anymore?” You have no idea how much I felt that. I love the MCU but the impact it did made people think that every movie needs to be connected and have a big pay off in the end with a crossover film, we can’t have solo movies or stories anymore, it’s honestly really sad and unfortunate. Another point that you didn’t mention is that having a smash bros movie would be a mess because of how many characters there are, Ultimate had like 80+ characters, it would be a nightmare for writers to handle that much
Or it would bomb because it doesn’t have the broad appeal of Mario. The latter made a billion $ because it came with a generation-spanning IP. The same can’t be said for Earthbound sadly , no matter how good the animation studio attached to it.
@@FilonisHat They don’t have to play up the fact it’s based on a game like with Mario. With good advertising that mainly focuses on the characters and story and not “OMG IT’S BASED ON A NINTENDO GAME!” I think it really could do well!!
I'd sort of be skeptical mainly because I know Cartoon Saloon for films not connected to massive IPs. Though Zelda does have all the aesthetics that fit Cartoon Saloon's brand, the worldbuilding and universe is way larger than The Secret of Kells, Song of the Seas and Wolfwalkers (which encorporate Irish folklore) or The Breadwinner (which is set in real life Taliban-ruled Afghanistan) combined. Then again, they did make a short for Star Wars: Visions which proves that they can at least work with a massive IP.
can you imagine illumination portraying war crimes and exploring the intricacies and pitfalls of a magical aristocratic society in a Fire Emblem Three Houses movie
I think Fates would be much funnier in my opinion lol. Since we all know that Schaff hates both that game and Illumination, it’d be a real treat to see him rip it apart.
A Zelda movie needs to be handled by people who can make good animation and a well-written plot inspired by the games, I don’t exactly know if Illumination is capable of doing this
Exactly, illumination was an okay enough choice for a fan service Easter egg movie that's light on plot, but a movie with a serious tone and actual story? Nah, Illumination would not be capable of that.
Well if I recalled Nintendo was going to start their own movie production company so the team ups will likely be ending here, they said they were going to learn the ins and outs of production from the making of Mario and do it themselves for the rest of their franchises.
You forgot to mention how inconsistent the art style would have been. It would have been so jarring to see cartoony humans, semi-anime humans and pseudo-reslistic humans in the same movie/universe.
@@prospitdreamer The thing about that, is that they *literally* are from different games, so naturally their appearances would be different. And plus, there isn't even that much variation of design between characters.
@@JoelTheParrot The thing about smash bros is, is that the characters’ individual movies don’t treat them as video game characters, but real, breathing entities. That would make an ssb movie even more jarring, for the fact that the supposed REAL characters with completely different art styles to be in the same place.
A super smash bros movie is like if the Lego movie wasn’t about legos and claimed that dumbledore, Gandalf, the Justice league, the Star Wars characters, and the TMNT were all in the same universe and interacting with each other
i can't stress enough how much i enjoy the movie clip impressions rather than just inserting the clip. it kills me literally every single time. "ARE YOU OUTTA YOUR MIIIIIIND?" LMAOOO
@@ZoobiethePopplioWell, considering that Dreamworks does have 2d animated movies, i guess they could pull off with that, though i do think some other studio should be on the hands of a Kirby movie.
@@kshuffles Not really? I played all of the Splatoon story modes and it's about as "spine chilling" as any New Super Mario Bros game. That said, I still enjoyed it, but not everything needs to be subtly horrific.
Another issue is that there are now so many characters in Smash. If you have too many characters in a movie, then you will have people complaining that their favorites didn’t get a lot of screen time or character development, and it will be hard to give each character a decent amount of screen time. Plus, if they only decide to include certain characters to reduce the cast size and make it easier to create a better film storywise, then people will be complaining that their favorite characters are being excluded. Either way, it’s a lose-lose situation.
@@Potatezone I think a Banjo and Kazooie movie would be cool, but in my opinion, I just don’t see how they could make a Smash film that won’t leave anybody even slightly disappointed. I do want to see another smash game, though
To be fair, Smash 64 only started with a roster of 12 fighters. A Smash movie would just start off with like...6 fighters. Similar to how the 1st Avengers was just Iron Man, Cap, Hulk, Thor, Hawkeye, and Black Widow.
@@retloclive9118 If they were to make a Smash movie, then yeah, there’s a good chance that they would probably do that. However, they would have to pick which characters would make it into the film, and if they don’t pick certain characters that some of the fans love to play as, then again, some people will end up being a little disappointed. If they made a TV show, though, then they could probably get away with adding more characters. That said, I think that Smash would benefit more from a TV show adaptation than it would a film adaptation.
Honestly the idea of illumination doing a Kirby film terrifies me I’d much MUCH rather have another Kirby anime that’s more accurate to the actual games
@@notmyrealname7163i grow tired of live action adaptations, especially metroid ones recommending poor suggestions or actresses for Samus. Live action adaptations are shit through and through save for marvel
I feel like it’s important to note that Nintendo bought their own studio and plan on making their own movies WITHOUT Illumination, so I believe that Nintendo properties are more likely to be efficiently translated into film. I still agree with your point though that a Smash Bros. Movie would be too convoluted and incoherent. Movies are movies, not fanfics.
The idea of a Smash Bros movie is one of those things that sounds like the coolest shit ever when you’re a kid but progressively gets more flawed and impossible the more you actually think about it as an adult.
Illumination would be awesome for Wario with all of Wari's grossout humor (like flaming farts) and whacky sounds. This is a 100% legit take, Schaffer. Good stuff.
I hope not, honestly. I actually dislike the degeneration of the many possibilities with his wah-cky and charismatic traits solely to fart gags, almost to the point of looking a weird fanfic.
That would be awesome! I was thinking more a film trilogy with the 3 games being slightly modified. I remember seeing some old clips where they did promotional media live action and had the proper acoustic versions of the songs and it looked so cool! I'm not sure if they'd go animated or live action with CGI effects, but I could see either working. I haven't seen Stranger Things, only clips and pics, but that kind of aesthetic would be really neat to see with EarthBound.
I think a Smash Bros. movie could work, but NOT as a big MCU-styled crossover event. It'd be more like the Lego Movie and explore themes of childhood through the lens of a kid playing with toys, kinda like the games themselves.
I cannot properly express to you the mental stress caused to me by simply hearing Xenoblade and Illumination mentioned in the same video, let alone entertaining the idea of a universe in which Illumination gets to lay a finger on Xenoblade.
You probably don’t have to worry as if they make a xenoblade movie it wil be after they make the nintendo flagships like zelda kirby fire emblem etc. (:
Splatoon already has their own manga, it would be fun to get a TV show, slice of life, with the idols or the agents to get more depth to their character (tho most likely not the agents cuz that means giving them semi canon genders or appearances.) It would be fun seeing an animated show featuring the idols in a similar way as Sonic Boom (the show) or it could just be an animated version of the manga, or its own show with it's own splatoon characters
@@brainthebrian3690 The turtles do fashion shows and people like to think rotmnt Leo is gay. I would try to explain more but judging a show on its gayness is not my specialty
To be fair, Laika already did one of the best Zelda-like as Zelda-like you can get with Kubo. They even got a musical instrument with magical properties!
Also, I don't think Laika is going to accept this type of collaborations since as far as I know, it is first a passion project by some rich guy who adores stop motion iirc.
What if it visually looked like a sci phi movie before CGI rolled around, like the original Star Wars Trilogy, or 2001: A space odyssey That would honestly be sick
I feel that dreamworks could handle a zelda movie very well. Because of what they did with the HTTYD movies , or even puss in boots the last wish, I would love to see a Zelda movie with either one of those art styles.
Omg I didn't think of that but yeah they'd do it so well. Although I do think a zelda film in the stop motion artstyle laika is known for would bring tears to my eyes.
I agree, the MOMENT I heard of the possibility of a Zelda movie I KNEW that DreamWorks should be the one in charge, Illumination cannot handle the Zelda series
I feel like if this were to happen, it’d just end up as a Ralph Breaks the Internet type of situation. Like it tries so hard to incorporate so much in its short runtime yet it’d just fail and land straight on its face 💀.
Probably not happening. If the M&L games were canon to this universe, the Beanbean Kingdom would be within close proximity, and Peach would remember the Shroob invasion when talking about her childhood.
There's already a Smash movie that was made, called "There Will be Brawl" available on TH-cam right now. They even got Ganondorf's voice actor to reprise his role, as well as to voice other characters. (Jokes aside, TWBB is pretty gritty and definitely a product of its time, but it's still worth a watch.)
It’s even more ironic when you know the guy who played Ganondorf is actually Matthew Mercer. AKA, the one and only number 1 player of Dungeons and Dragons thanks to his hit series Critical Role where’s he’s the top leader and does a lot of voice roles, like Chrom in Fire Emblem, Yusuke in Persona 5, and Jotaro from Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure. Seriously. Dude’s been INSANELY talented and he just keeps getting better and better.
Even before a video like this existed, I was never into the idea of a Smash Bros movie or a Nintendo cinematic universe. It would just be a nightmare to follow/create.
@Voltron77 The issue with this a Smash Bros movie/Nintendo Cinematic Universe is that you can only use like 6 Nintendo franchises. Mario, Zelda, Metriod, DK, Pokemon, and Kirby. The other Nintendo franchises don't have that mainstream popularity or universal appeal in order to benefit from a big theatrical movie plus most of them can't really transition into movies. Maybe Punch Out and Star Fox can, but those series aren't that popular. Series like Xenoblade, Fire Emblem, Kid Icurus, Star Fox, F-Zero, Mother, Arms, Punch Out, Splatoon, etc only work as video games. Plus if you want 3rd party characters that's another issue.
Even if it did go into production I genuinely think it will take over 10 years to make since there is so many companies you have to get in contacts with and agree and make rules and crap for all sorts
Instead of adapting Smash Brothers to cinema, I think it would do much better as a TV show with a nonlinear narrative. That way, each episode can focus on a few different characters at a time instead of cramming a whole bunch of characters in an hour and a half long movie. It would be somewhat cluttered for sure, but nowhere near as extravagant as it'd be in cinema.
Me personally we could have like 10 episodes introducing the characters then have them go in an arena and have a 1v1 tournament and have their be a prize so they have the incentive to fight each other and have like 50 fights per episode and each episode be around an hour then have the later episodes have less fights so It will be over in like 75 episodes
@@Shinny5350 fights per episode? Jesus Christ, that's a lot. Not only would the pacing be awful (that's 50 1-minute fights for your 1 hour episodes), but also, why do they have to fight in a tournament? I guess it's your Idea, which is fair, but I'm just not sure how well it would work.
Schaffrillas talking about why he loves spinoffs has to be one of my favorite things ever. I relate to what he said so much. And as a random side note, if we're keeping with the trend of casting random big name celebrities as Mario characters, I remember someone saying Danny Devito and Willem Dafoe as Wario and Waluigi, and I kind of love that for some reason.
@TheGlassesPro Jack Black said he envisioned Pascal as Wario. It's not in any way confirmed that Nintendo or Illumination have been looking into casting him, or even that they're looking into casting anyone for Mario movie sequels
@@Mikomania1 I would argue that only really applies to running. Take swimming, for example. Most of the Mario cast can swim. Sonic, on the other hand? How many sonic characters have you seen actually swim instead of running along the bottom (which would certainly get them disqualified)? I just think you're ignoring a lot of possibilities here.
sidenote: I would love for WarioWare to just be a silly movie where Wario gets all his friends together to make short films so he can make as much revenue as possible I think that would be hilarious
I was thinking of a comedic Smash show in the a la Carnival Phantasm. Of course it wouldn’t be canon and the characters would be toys like in Smash, but rather than fighting, they would go to various locations from their games (which are just setpieces now), crack jokes about their franchises, and have fun together. I’d like that!
The Donkey Kong cinematic universe could be a thing, you can even add Wario since it shares universe with Mario, who shares it with Yoshi, who shares it DK, who shares it with Diddy Kong, who shares it with Banjo Kazooie, who shares it with Conker, etc.
I was thinking that Nintendo could just get different animation studios from both America and Japan to animate movie or show adaptations of their games. They once got the Demon Slayer animation studio to animate cutscenes for one of their games, so it wouldn’t be too far fetched.
I have no idea what that even means. This video isn’t even about just dissing the Mario movie, it’s about literally stating why a Smash Bros movie wouldn’t be a good idea so I have no idea why you felt the need to comment this.
I'm glad that Schaffrilla addressed people's obsession with everything having to have a cinematic universe. It was pretty cool when marvel did it, but now i'm just getting tired of it.
Omg same. When I said I would love to see it once, someone was like “it wouldn’t do well at all because at this point no one plays the games anymore”. But honestly… they COULD advertise it as just a whole new series, and not play up the fact it’s based on a Nintendo game, that’s how I think it could potentially be successful :)
If we ever get a Kirby movie, then Dedede needs to have the same VA as "Kirby right back at Ya". But who am I kidding? They will most likely have Dave Bautista or Kevin Hardt as his voice.
@@omegadrive9999 I thought so too, but then I figured they’d be hesitant to have the character associated with the funny Shrek cat, so theyd maybe get someone more intense like Javier Bardem or Danny Trejo
I can't really imagine a good plot of a Smash Bros movie, it would be Nintendo characters fighting but what else? The plots for Ultimate and Brawl were good but would it work for a movie?
I’m guessing some multiversial threat but most characters would’ve had experience with that before, or someone brings them together in like a tournament and something is happening in the background
That’s sort of my query as well. Fighting game movies typically don’t have strong narratives unless you’re going to focus on individual characters and their connections to each other. But if they’re all from completely different franchises, that’s going to be rough and haphazard storytelling. Even using the premise of “some massive force pulled these beings into a random place for them to fight to victory,” it feels like the narrative will be peppered with pointless spectacle fights before everyone has to “team-up and defeat the big bad that brought them there.” Which, okay, but it’s not likely to create a compelling movie.
And we also shouldn't trust Illumination with any of the Mario RPG stuff either, basically anything focused more heavily on plot should be handed to a different studio.
@@Thecoolgamer-cx9tj the only issue with Fawful is you need at least two movies for him to work properly so they’d have to have enough incentive to commit to tgat
Am I the only one who hates “good guy” Bowser? Like sure give us some new villains, but don’t make Bowser into a complete and utter joke character who becomes a “hero”. Why not make Bowser a SIDE villain instead?
I feel like under Nintendo, they could definitely make a good one. Dreamworks is completely capable of putting out some amazing movies under the right circumstances
As a Metroid fan I must insist that Genndy Tartakovsky would be the perfect choice of director for an adaptation of the series. I mean, do I even need to explain why?
No he wouldn't he relishes in a snappy cartoony style, Metroid is all about the moody atmosphere, in fact you couldn't really make a better Metroid movie than Alien and Aliens which is already what inspired it.
I feel like Zelda might also work better live action, though I wonder how they would get around Link being mute. Even in the recent games with voice acting, Link not talking is part of the universe.
I honestly think a 2d animated series or movie would work a lot stronger, especially with breath of the wild. Not only do I think it would do a lot of the visual elements of the series more justice - for example, I could not imagine if the Netflix Castlevania was live action instead. I also feel it could be used mor effectively to convey link not speaking.
From my admittedly limited experience with the Zelda franchise... Link talks... just not audibly for the players. If this is a recent change with Breath of The Wild then you can at least understand my confusion with these points that you and Schafrillas are bringing up. Legend of Zelda could probably be a pretty damn good movie/series. Link talking isn't really a big deal.
@@danielarputharaj9918 The animated would certainly make Link not speaking seem a lot less weird. I guess personally I'd just love to see who they would cast for certain characters like Ganon
This video put the potential of a Xenoblade movie made by Illumination in my head. I'm currently so physically paralysed of fear that I'm using speech-to-text to write this. I'm not sure when, of if I'll recover, and I might need therapy now because of that thought.
Imagine if the Mechon acted exactly like the Minions, complete with babbling and fart jokes. And they poop all over Fiora when they kill her at the beginning 💀
Of all the potential cinematic universes that could be made, a smash brothers is one that has one of the best chances of working out if done well by a talented writer.
I agree that not everything needs to be a cinematic universe. I’m so tired of shit like that. I remember Joker being such a breath of fresh air because it wasn’t tied to any version of Batman, it was its own thing. We need more stuff like that
I mean it was a kind of Batman origin story as well, but that was never like a “OOOOHH LOOOK! It’s BATMAN! It’s his STORY! Wow!” The focus was ON THE JOKER, which was great. They didn’t forget about Batman, or more specifically and accurately, Bruce Wayne, as the Wayne’s are significant to plot, and how tied Batman and Joker are together as characters, but that doesn’t take away the focus off of Joker or try to hype up the next film, it just sticks to itself, which is great!
Just as long as King Dedede keeps his snazzy louisiana voice from the Anime, this Kirby movie would be perfect. That kind of voice is just irreplaceable.
That last point’s mentality is actually one I’ve had with mariokart for a while. The mario universe is so massive and has so many great characters and locales to pull from, and I feel like when people ask for the guest characters to take up more of the series it just feels like people are missing the fact there’s already so much potential there
Considering all the new characters that Tour has added to the series, it’s clear that there’s still tons of untouched possibilities in the Mario series that Mario Kart can use.
There's actually an old reason why they don't. Part of it was a sort of 'sterilization' of the franchise in the late 2000's, early 2010's. You notice after Super Paper Mario that the Paper Mario games started going down this idea of generic Toad designs? How the old designs of the enemies started to look closer to the designs from the New Super Mario Bros games? Nintendo wanted to sort of "scrub" this expanded Mario Universe idea out to make it all uniform. So if it's not from a main Mario game, it's not something they want to be a part of it.
As much as I love _Super Smash Bros._ I don't think a bunch of Nintendo characters bearing eachother up for 90 minutes. I can't imagine there being much of another plot. And these franchises just wouldn't mesh like the different Marvel characters do.
Yeah, an attempt at those bad Taisen Films from Toei's Tokustatu that Yonemura wrote would not work. Hey, if not in America, ask Toei Animation! They're working with Nintendo Pictures, so why not that when the time's right? I'd settle for Toei Smash, they have the talent in writing and animation!
I never knew I wanted a Laika Zelda movie, but I absolutely want that now. Like, Laika might be the studio that could handle some of these properties the best, Zelda kind of with the tone of Missing Link, Metroid with Coraline vibes, and Kirby with Kubo vibes, though obviously not all Nintendo stuff would work under them.
As someone that has worked at Laika I can say translating Kirby character anatomy to stop motion would be the biggest nightmare. Metroid or LoZ would be beautiful in Laika style though. Unfortunately I really doubt they would go after such big established properties.
The issue there is that the “just references” criticism would apply tenfold to a Smash movie and it would be way more blatant since it’s no longer just Mario, which barely ever had a story.
A DK country film with the plot of Tropical Freeze, the villian being King K Rool, David Wise as composer, and Funky Kong screen time would be chef’s kiss
I’d love that, hope we get a DK movie down the line as that would be sweet (especially if it’s based off the best 2D platformer of all time Tropical Freeze
@@diabeticman2194would also be cool if they show some of the worlds from Tropical Freeze like the Mario movie did with their locations but more extensive. Hell I’d even be down with some of the bosses from that game be in the movie like Bashmaster or Fugu. Kremlings don’t have to be the only foes lol
@Nicolas Sanabria I mean, being afraid to tackle anything other than 2 of the most iconic and impactful fictional characters of all time isn't exactly surprising. In the face of a world where anything that isn't Marvel or Star Wars doesn't have a guaranteed future, playing it safe for a while is kinda a necessity for its continued existence.
@@safetymatches8873 i dont necessarily agree. I dont think you can really say a shared universe franchise is successful unless it is able to convince audiences to engage with more niche or expiremental material; thats how you know general audiences on board
@zucchini I think that the much simpler metric of "the movies make money and are received well enough to make more without negative backlash" is a better way of determining success, less room for interpretation. And even so, kaiju media is inherently more niche than either marvel or DC by a pretty significant margin. The fact the monsterverse has kept interest despite releasing one movie every 2-3 years as opposed to multiple movies every year certainly says something.
IF they make a Smash Bros. movie, it'd need a build up for most of the various characters and a reboot of the Sonic & Pikachu movies to bring them into artistic line before the script starts to take shape. But most of these characters can happily exist in their own worlds with minimal cross-over.
i was thinking, if the actual SSB lore is that they're all just toys in a kid's bedroom, then they should adapt that idea, like Zathura or Jumanji, instead of this whole "already living in our world" idea that everyone is thinking about.
That's kinda what I was imagining for the possible (eventual?) Smash Bros movie. Don't try to tie in everything into one universe, but rather keep them all separated so each series can have a chance to be fleshed out on the big screen, with no contamination in-between. Then, once each franchise has at least one or two movies to establish what's going on in that universe, have a extra-universal threat start making its presence known. Basically, make the movies stand alone, but the Smash Movie MULTI-versal, where the universes collide. The only down side ti that would be the Smash Bros movie would have to be a 3 part in order to fit all the nuances and provide a way to show why an extra-universal being would be interested in bridging or merging the universes together. Perhaps they might be a "collector" of sorts, looking for prizes to add to their collections, or they seek to acquire the powerful artifacts of each universe to become the ultimate BBEG, or maybe they just want to destroy everything so that it would become "new". I think when people are saying that people want a cinematic "universe", people don't realize the fans are actually wanting a cinematic multiverse, where things could still be separated, yet have an option to collide, much like how the Smash Bros games show. At least in the first 3 games, it was implied that each character was in their own universe/timeline, then Master Hand plucked them out of it in order to force them to fight for his amusement, with the Victor ultimately fighting against him and (possibly) killing him. Not every movie needs to be set in the same universe, just as long as there is a feasible (and logical) way to justify seeing the universes collide.
Imagine Dreamworks made the Zelda movie. Considering that a lot of their movies have a lot of great emotion mixed with comedy, maybe they could tackle Zelda. Bro imagine a Zelda film with Puss in Boots’ animation and art style 👀
@@Duskool Dreamworks movies are great when they put full effort into movies. (The Bad Guys, Shrek, The Last Wish, HTTYD). It's the cash grabs like Trolls, The Boss Baby, and Shark Tale that aren't good.
If a Luigi's mansion movie would happen, it'd be dope if they added references to other franchises, just like they did with the Mario movie. and since Luigi's Mansion is a bit on the more horror side, it'd be cool if they added a Metroid reference since both franchises have horror as a theme
It actually just dawned on me how well a Warioware movie would fit the Illumination style. Like, the art direction of Despicable Me wouldn't look too bad on Diamond City and even the grossout humor or pop music could be excused with Wario and idk Jimmy T respectively Also, vaguely related but the plot of Sing alone has a ton of similarities with the one of Mega Microgame$
Another reason why a Mario Cinematic Universe would be better than a Nintendo Cinematic Universe would be because it gives a lot of obscure and forgotten characters from the Mario franchise a chance to come back in a new medium, like Geno for example!
Plus, if you count RareWare’s N64 characters who made an early debut in Diddy Kong Racing, then Banjo and Conker could also contribute material for a Mario Cinematic Universe. The studios in charge would just need to strike a deal with Microsoft, who now currently owns those characters. Granted, an adaptation of the Banjo-Kazooie games would be much easier to market as an extension of the Mario Cinematic Universe than an adaptation of “Conker’s Bad Fur Day”. The latter would need to have an R-rating like the Deadpool movies to be faithful, while a Mario Cinematic Universe is otherwise universally geared to be family friendly, more so than the Fox X-Men films. So in order for a Conker movie to work, the mainstream marketing would likely need to distance Conker from the Mario/D.K./Wario/Banjo films, but then maybe catch the theater audience off guard with surprise/hidden references and cameos linking the two properties.
I've literally woken up in a cold sweat after the thought of an illumination Metroid movie entered my head. Here's hoping that's not the timeline we live in. I always thought it would be cool to see a live action Metroid, and I'm going to keep cautiously hoping for that. I want to see a truly horrifying depiction of Ridley on screen! It's like, my childhood dream. Well, that and Ridley in Smash, but we got that already.
Schafrillas, lemme just take this moment to say that you are a goated channel. Even though this year had been incredibly rough for you you didn't stop making content for us, thank you and never stop making these banger videos.
No this video absolutely sucked and only proves that this guy has zero creativity or vision. His reasons for why this couldnt work are all awful. Only thing i agree with is that illumination seem to be terrible storytellers but so was Sony until they got the guys that gave us Into the Spiderverse.
@@ranelgallardo7031 Dreamworks and Aardman didn’t really go out on the best terms in the mid 2000s since they constantly wanted to retool their movies to suit an American audience
Man, a video highlighting the problems with a potential Smash Bros. movie has been a long time coming, that's for certain. Thank you for making this; so many great points here! Also, with regards to Kirby in particular... eh, I personally think that a Kirby movie would be better off being handled by a Japanese animation studio, as the Kirby series is super popular in Japan, and while HAL have been making a greater effort to push the series overseas, particularly with Forgotten Land's success, I don't think it's gotten to the point where a bunch of people working at a western studio happen to be fans of the series yet. Really, as long as the film is treated with just as much care as The Super Mario Bros. Movie was given by Illumination and Nintendo, I'd be happy.
100% agree! i would also love to see another kirby anime, with other characters added in like bandana dee! if a japanese studio ever made a kirby movie i would die for it to include the return to dreamland squad
The lego movie is a movie which in concept aounds terrible but in reality is one of the best movies ever made, their direction really makes all the difference
I honestly hope that they don’t make a smash movie. I personally want these properties to be their own universes separately. Just all under one studio like Nintendo
@@aborealisglfry I mean it wont be like Mario contacts Link on the daily, like if they were Tony Stark and Peter Parker in the same world and universe. Obviously when all things are said and done they go do their own thing, in their own respective universes.
A smash bros movie is a cute idea when you’re thinking about it in your head, but realistically is something that wouldn’t really make sense to do legitimately and especially legally with all the character rights.
They need to make that but a game. Like the Kid Icarus reboot, it should be third person, have amazing detail, and be kind like breath of the wild, but you hunt and kill bears and it's in a blizzard. Popo and Nana could have character development and look out for one another. It needs to happen.
I could really go for a 30 minute smash bros comedy skit by Nintendo where the joke is how different everything is and how nothing fits.
Reminds me of how half the lines in the Snapcube dub is either:
“I’m not supposed to even be here”
“I NEED TO GET HOME AND WACK OFF”
Imagine trying to make a story where Isabelle, Ridley, Pikachu, and Wario cohesively fit in together
Kind of Like Wooden Plank Studios' comics.
@@grayanddevpdxWARIOOO IM GONNA WIN ‼️‼️‼️‼️
just watch if smash bros was realistic
I've always appreciated the fact that Smash Bros.'s actual story is that it's just a kid smashing action figures together to make them fight. That truly is the best justification you can have for that kind of game.
like in the lego movie!
I think a smash bros film could potentially work like that, where the point of the movie is mainly just cool character interactions and sick fights without much need for setup. I understand and hard agree with Schaff's argument about how there shouldn't be an NCU, but I feel like he missed the point that you really don't need one for a Smash Bros movie, nor do you need that much setup for it. I think most people would accept it taking place in some non-canon inbetween world like in Subspace without worrying too much about it. Not saying such a film such necessarily be made - the other problems the list are still completely valid, but I don't think the film hinging on an ncu is one of them.
They could make it Toy Story l-like. Id watch that. Didnt give 2 shits about the Mario movie.
I think the premise of Smash Bros with the characters being toys is far more appealing than people give it credit for. It opens the door for ANYONE, being the kid who puts these toys together. Not just Sakarai or Andy from Toy Story, but ANYONE can be Master and Crazy Hand.
Toy Story like smash bros flim would literally only work and it will be noncannon
I want a cute childlike Kirby series but only the ending is just batshit horrifying
The first 3 quarters be a happy fun pg movie where everyone watching is wondering why it's rated R only to die of shock once that 4th quarter starts
Now THIS I would watch
That’d be absolutely hilarious
Well, Dreamworks does have Rodrigo Blaas. He could pull that off.
@Eddy9871 "This movie's pretty good, why is it rated R though- DEAR GOD WHAT IS THAT"
Takeaways:
- don’t make a Smash movie
- Holy shit please make a Luigi’s Mansion movie
Tbh I say splatoon is probably the most feasible Nintendo ip for illumination to make a movie out of. I mean splatoon looks cartoony sings pop songs (like in SING but in Inklish), and fricken Sheldon basically looks like a skinnier minion.
@@Mario123007 fair, I couldn’t say really,, I don’t know that much about splatoon. I just like Luigi and I LOVE Charlie day 🤣
@@bwahhhhhhhh splatoon is basically Nintendo's own shooting game, it's colorful, has many pop culture reference, pretty decent lore, so I think illumination tackling on a splatoon movie is not a bad idea. Also btw, splatoon is the number 1 vg that Japanese gamers hope to have an anime.
Mark Hamill as King Boo would be perfect casting. Especially if he talks in his Joker Voice with a ghostly filter.
And they should make a Star Fox anime show based in the 64 timeline.
I swear to god not everything needs to be a cinematic universe
"I swear to god not everything needs to be a cinematic universe" cinematic universe when
The algorithm requires engagement.
But it would be cool if it was
This does tbh
@@KiiBon fastest reply ever lol. But no seriously it doesn’t, why do people think Smash would work as a film
Kirby can work, if the first part of the film is insanely kid friendly, then the second part scalates to an action packed adventure and the third act is pure Lovecraftian horror.
'Aw sweet! Eldritch horrors beyond my comprehension!'
i refuse to see a kirby movie done by illumination
And the very last part of the movie everything went back to normal like nothing happened
I refuse to think of a movie where kirby is voiced by Chris Pratt
yes
The Mario franchise is so utterly gigantic that you could make 5 other spin-off movie franchises alongside the main Mario movie franchise.
Yoshi
Wario
Luigi's mansion
DK country
Captain Toad
those are the easy ones just using the mainstream Mario characters and all already introduced (except Wario) in the movie
That's not counting punch out (which seems canon in-universe) or wrecking crew (kinda curious of what a wrecking crew movie would be like, but we had Spike)
@@diersteinjulien6773 Wario’s movie could be a buddy comedy with him and Waluigi about them trying to get an ancient treasure
@@IcyDiamond simple plot for a Wario movie:
Wario and Waluigi work for wrecking crew (allows you to reuse Spike)
They get contracted by the Mushroom Kingdom to clear up some ruins (they get a recommendation from Mario because the princess asked the Mario brothers and it's not a job for them or the Toads)
Ruins turn out to be treasure-laden and it turns into a treasure hunt.
Include hijinks, pirates, a few cameos from warioware characters
Give Waluigi some nice screentime, he deserves it
Boom, success
@@diersteinjulien6773 Yeah that’d work pretty nicely, just a simple fun plot of Wario and Waluigi trying to find a cool treasure
Wario could be introduced in a mario movie sequel as a villain, gets his standalone movie where he's an adventurer/treasure hunter, like the actual transition from Mario Land 2 to Wario Land 1.
I think the transition of him being a treasure hunter to a washed up videogame company CEO could work (Wario Land to WarioWare), but i'm not sure how much
Actually, a Stop motion Pikmin movie made by Aardam wouldn't be a bad idea.
Indeed
Personally, I think if they made a pikmin movie it should be done in a similar style to Marcel the Shell.
I would love if it didn't have any voices like they did with shawn the sheep. I would also like if they made it harm warming at the end where olimar gets to see his family
Pikmin screams Studio Ghibli to me but both would be great
Aardman is an S tier studio, they'd nail that shit.
Honestly, my first thought after finishing the Mario movie was “I hope they do a Luigi’s Mansion movie”. It wasn’t “I hope they do a Smash Bros movie”. Mario is big enough as is and you can make so much from this one franchise
its illumination, they're gonna find a way to make it inoffensive and hollow, although a laika zelda movie would be sick (as someone who has never played a zelda game)
My first thought was "I hope Illumination stops making movies".
@@bighairedyolol play botw man irs so good!!
mario galaxy would be beautiful
Even the second Mario Movie… I’m expecting an adaptation of Super Mario World… the best 2D Mario game :)
It's simple: People don't want movies for the interesting plots, messages or style; people just want to see the products they recognize from their childhood in another medium just because. Now, imagine a buch of products sharing screentime toguether, that's a money printer if I ever saw one.
You mean The Emoji Movie?
But I want to clap when I see it!!!
People gets exited when they see their favorite character on the big screen, but then people starts criticize the product for the story and plot and what the characters do in the movie/show
And that sort of nostalgia pandering is why media like Ready Player One gets absolutely clowned on, so I really don't get why people gun for it so hard bc even if they did make a Smash Bros movie, all the complaints would just be how *their* favourite character was mischaracterized/underutilized anyway
You mean Marvel movies?
"I NEED a smash bros cinematic universe" MFs when they hear that they will need to sit through 15 fire emblem films to understand the story.
Why does the smash movie need lore involved. Literally just do the "portals opened in different universes" thing, ignore each individual characters lore, and have them work toward defeating a common threat. While getting used to coexisting with a bunch of weirdos.
@@mr.mcklockwork3828 That would suck.
@@mr.mcklockwork3828 that would be a very shitty movie
@@victorford5047 Well its not like they would give enough of a shit to make a movie that incoporates all the lore of each franchise. I know that would suck, im just thinking in terms of what would probably be done.
@@victorford5047 IDEALLY every character has a pivotal role, is 100% lore accurate and they come up with a reason for all of them to exist in the same universe without breaking any continuity, its heartfelt, exciting and action packed and the villain is Master Hand but with a cool personality/motivation or somethin like that.
But we're never getting that movie.
The tonal differences of these franchises would definitely make it more difficult. Imagine Chrom Fire Emblem says something like “my older sister died” and then Kirby is just like “POYO”. Heck in Smash itself the characters don’t really say much
Mario: WAHOO, LETS-A-GO
I dunno, Japan always gets a kick out of tonal whiplashes like that. At least THEY will enjoy it.
They played that for laughs in Wreck-It Ralph 🤷🏽 it's been done before
What's funny is that Chrom is kind of a dork sometimes, remember the little "Chromgratulations" scene?
you just explained exactly why it would be awesome
The Mario universe is pretty much as expansive as the MCU. Making a Smash Bros movie would be more similar to shoving Marvel, DC, Star Wars, Spongebob, LOTR, Mickey Mouse, Forest Gump, and Despicable Me into a movie together than just making a "new MCU".
“The scene where Batman, Jar Jar Binks, Squidward, Donald Duck, Gandalf, Lieutenant Dan, and Vector all sacrificed themselves to stop Kang The Conquerer was iconic.”
@@IcyDiamond fortnite rn
This is where Fortnite comes into play
@thefatpiranhaplant2619 yeah, gotta say that when Gandalf the Grey, and Gandalf the White, and Monty Python and the Holy Grail's Black Knight, and Benito Mussolini, and the Blue Meanie, and Cowboy Curtis, and Jambi the Genie, Robocop, the Terminator, Captain Kirk, Darth Vader, Lopan, Superman, every single Power Ranger, Bill S. Preston, and Theodore Logan, Spock, The Rock, Doc Ock, and Hulk Hogan showed up and beat up Chuck Norris, I went insane from the hype
@@Bighomie39 it was the bloodiest battle that the world had ever saw
with civilians lookin on in total awe
A Splatoon Anime would be fun as I could see it being a Spy/Sports Anime where an Inkling has to balance life between their competitive Turf/Ranked sessions and stopping whatever Agents are dealing with.
There’s actually a manga of Splatoon, maybe they could adapt that into an anime
Schaffrillas isn’t pregnant but still never fails to deliver
HUghhj
Yeah bro delivers content like he’s a damn stork
Banger
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😂
As Viridi said,
"This game universe and that game universe have NOTHING to do with each other!”
Viridi was ahead of her time.
“Why can’t a movie be a movie anymore?” You have no idea how much I felt that. I love the MCU but the impact it did made people think that every movie needs to be connected and have a big pay off in the end with a crossover film, we can’t have solo movies or stories anymore, it’s honestly really sad and unfortunate.
Another point that you didn’t mention is that having a smash bros movie would be a mess because of how many characters there are, Ultimate had like 80+ characters, it would be a nightmare for writers to handle that much
Plus, one of the characters is a Disney character... I don't think I need to say anymore.
If it’s just the original 64 roster it is more plausible, but doing an Ultimate style Smash movie would be a nightmare
@@karatebat5156 and another one is from microsoft
that line is trash because tons of movies are standalone films and the only exception are DC and Marvel
Loving the MCU after Phase 3 is crazy
An Earthbound movie by Laika would literally make western civilization implode
Someone gets it😮💨
Cartoon Saloon could be a great choice as well
Or it would bomb because it doesn’t have the broad appeal of Mario. The latter made a billion $ because it came with a generation-spanning IP. The same can’t be said for Earthbound sadly , no matter how good the animation studio attached to it.
@@FilonisHat it’s still a solid story, the ability to experience it would be increased by a movie or series. It would be award winning.
@@FilonisHat They don’t have to play up the fact it’s based on a game like with Mario. With good advertising that mainly focuses on the characters and story and not “OMG IT’S BASED ON A NINTENDO GAME!” I think it really could do well!!
“Cartoon Saloon Zelda movie” is such an amazing concept I’m furious that there’s no way it’d ever happen
what about a zelda anime?
That would be cool and I think that studio could do amazing with Earthbound too
I'd sort of be skeptical mainly because I know Cartoon Saloon for films not connected to massive IPs. Though Zelda does have all the aesthetics that fit Cartoon Saloon's brand, the worldbuilding and universe is way larger than The Secret of Kells, Song of the Seas and Wolfwalkers (which encorporate Irish folklore) or The Breadwinner (which is set in real life Taliban-ruled Afghanistan) combined.
Then again, they did make a short for Star Wars: Visions which proves that they can at least work with a massive IP.
can you imagine illumination portraying war crimes and exploring the intricacies and pitfalls of a magical aristocratic society in a Fire Emblem Three Houses movie
I can th-cam.com/video/-qvDuj0uuug/w-d-xo.html
No
I think Fates would be much funnier in my opinion lol. Since we all know that Schaff hates both that game and Illumination, it’d be a real treat to see him rip it apart.
Er mm
@@ButterFlyGardenBlossomeven funnier if it’s a legitimate masterpiece
A Zelda movie needs to be handled by people who can make good animation and a well-written plot inspired by the games, I don’t exactly know if Illumination is capable of doing this
I think dreamworks is a good realistic company to do a zelda film as they are owned by the same people as illumination
@@winternoodles2338 What?
Exactly, illumination was an okay enough choice for a fan service Easter egg movie that's light on plot, but a movie with a serious tone and actual story? Nah, Illumination would not be capable of that.
You can just say Genndy Tartakovsky
@@Bluelightzero I want this now.
A Zelda movie done by studio Ghibli is never going to happen, but I can dream
Lmao it would be so good but yeah it won’t happen
Well if I recalled Nintendo was going to start their own movie production company so the team ups will likely be ending here, they said they were going to learn the ins and outs of production from the making of Mario and do it themselves for the rest of their franchises.
animal crossing happened so...
Gosh, i feel ya
Here before this comment correctly predicts the future
You forgot to mention how inconsistent the art style would have been. It would have been so jarring to see cartoony humans, semi-anime humans and pseudo-reslistic humans in the same movie/universe.
Though wreck it Ralph managed to do it quite well
@@prospitdreamer The thing about that, is that they *literally* are from different games, so naturally their appearances would be different. And plus, there isn't even that much variation of design between characters.
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast I mean, the fact that they're literally from different games translates to Smash Bros 1-1 as well.
@@JoelTheParrot If the art style changed when they crossed universes maybe
@@JoelTheParrot The thing about smash bros is, is that the characters’ individual movies don’t treat them as video game characters, but real, breathing entities. That would make an ssb movie even more jarring, for the fact that the supposed REAL characters with completely different art styles to be in the same place.
A super smash bros movie is like if the Lego movie wasn’t about legos and claimed that dumbledore, Gandalf, the Justice league, the Star Wars characters, and the TMNT were all in the same universe and interacting with each other
i can't stress enough how much i enjoy the movie clip impressions rather than just inserting the clip. it kills me literally every single time. "ARE YOU OUTTA YOUR MIIIIIIND?" LMAOOO
“Subspace Dubbed Over” is already the perfect Smash Movie
*W A R I O!!*
*I G O T T A W I N!!!!!*
literally came here to post this lol, watch subspace dubbed over
It's nothing but
WHAT THE FUCK
I GOTTA JERK OFF TO IT
and
WAAARIO
I GOTTA WIINNNN
for 57 minutes and i love it
"I need to go home and WACK OFF!"
For an April Fools video, I honestly thought it was funnier then the Shadow The Hedgehog dub
Kirby has a subtle eldritch horror that illumination could never replicate
Could DreamWorks, though?
@@ZoobiethePopplioWell, considering that Dreamworks does have 2d animated movies, i guess they could pull off with that, though i do think some other studio should be on the hands of a Kirby movie.
Actually so does Splatoon. It only looks childish, it’s actually really spine chilling.
You mean Kirby himself, right?
@@kshuffles Not really? I played all of the Splatoon story modes and it's about as "spine chilling" as any New Super Mario Bros game. That said, I still enjoyed it, but not everything needs to be subtly horrific.
Another issue is that there are now so many characters in Smash. If you have too many characters in a movie, then you will have people complaining that their favorites didn’t get a lot of screen time or character development, and it will be hard to give each character a decent amount of screen time. Plus, if they only decide to include certain characters to reduce the cast size and make it easier to create a better film storywise, then people will be complaining that their favorite characters are being excluded. Either way, it’s a lose-lose situation.
But I WOULD like a Banjo Kazooie movie, or even just another game. Or anything, really.
@@Potatezone I think a Banjo and Kazooie movie would be cool, but in my opinion, I just don’t see how they could make a Smash film that won’t leave anybody even slightly disappointed. I do want to see another smash game, though
@@Potatezone though I love this idea, I feel like the CGI will look ugly using the Nuts & Bolts redesing instead of the SSB current desings
To be fair, Smash 64 only started with a roster of 12 fighters.
A Smash movie would just start off with like...6 fighters. Similar to how the 1st Avengers was just Iron Man, Cap, Hulk, Thor, Hawkeye, and Black Widow.
@@retloclive9118 If they were to make a Smash movie, then yeah, there’s a good chance that they would probably do that. However, they would have to pick which characters would make it into the film, and if they don’t pick certain characters that some of the fans love to play as, then again, some people will end up being a little disappointed.
If they made a TV show, though, then they could probably get away with adding more characters. That said, I think that Smash would benefit more from a TV show adaptation than it would a film adaptation.
Honestly the idea of illumination doing a Kirby film terrifies me
I’d much MUCH rather have another Kirby anime that’s more accurate to the actual games
Kirby would be best in the hands of Sony probably.
Have you watched Kirby: Right Back At Ya?
@@thevioletbee5879 maybe, but why do you think that?
@@TheGoldeneyeOfficial Have you SEEN Spiderverse’s final battle? It feels so damn Kirby.
@@loganharris7801 well I am a diehard Kirby fan so ofc :]
A horror/action style Metroid film sounds so fire yet so hard to pull off. I both want it and don’t.
I feel like a Metroid Movie would have to be live action.
It already exists and it got a sequel too!
Alien & Aliens.
@@notmyrealname7163i grow tired of live action adaptations, especially metroid ones recommending poor suggestions or actresses for Samus. Live action adaptations are shit through and through save for marvel
What else could it be?? Apart from Samus there are no characters (*worth remembering).
@@ldsviking i personally like the adam character, especially in Dread, iykyk 😅
I feel like it’s important to note that Nintendo bought their own studio and plan on making their own movies WITHOUT Illumination, so I believe that Nintendo properties are more likely to be efficiently translated into film. I still agree with your point though that a Smash Bros. Movie would be too convoluted and incoherent. Movies are movies, not fanfics.
They need better writers for Zelda and Metroid
Modern Hollywood blockbusters would beg to differ on that last point.
The idea of a Smash Bros movie is one of those things that sounds like the coolest shit ever when you’re a kid but progressively gets more flawed and impossible the more you actually think about it as an adult.
Imagine a Zelda movie made by Studio Ghibli, that would actually be best picture material
Actually yes
Indeed
I was actually thinking that Nintendo will might probably move on to the DreamWorks Studio?
Beat me to the idea. But yea. I feel like they would best handle the franchises tone.
I mean BOTW was already 70% Ghibli already! Imagine what actual studio Ghibli could do with the franchise if they got their hands on it
The tonal clash of a Smash Bros movie just reminds me of this meme.
Samus: This is where I watched my parents die, Mario.
Mario: Cowabummer!
Ridley starts making choking sounds…
Illumination would be awesome for Wario with all of Wari's grossout humor (like flaming farts) and whacky sounds. This is a 100% legit take, Schaffer. Good stuff.
Never thought of that
I hope not, honestly. I actually dislike the degeneration of the many possibilities with his wah-cky and charismatic traits solely to fart gags, almost to the point of looking a weird fanfic.
No, that's just bad...
i can 100% see them bringing in wario just so they can release their pent up illumination humor.
@@creepstone8621 you say that as if Mario has a y more traits besides "save the princess" and "it's-a-me!"
I want an Earthbound series that much like the Kirby one, would begin being all sweet and child friendly but end up with straight up cosmic horror.
Imagine moonside it would be beatiful
Yes I agree imagine giygas
I also agree that that should happen (And I should be in it,too : D)
I agree would be a great idea lets get Itoi to make it and include moonside of course
That would be awesome! I was thinking more a film trilogy with the 3 games being slightly modified. I remember seeing some old clips where they did promotional media live action and had the proper acoustic versions of the songs and it looked so cool! I'm not sure if they'd go animated or live action with CGI effects, but I could see either working. I haven't seen Stranger Things, only clips and pics, but that kind of aesthetic would be really neat to see with EarthBound.
“Are you kidding me? Are you out of your mind?” never gets old.
HAHAHAHA RICEGUM BABY DIE 😂😂🎉👌
I think a Smash Bros. movie could work, but NOT as a big MCU-styled crossover event. It'd be more like the Lego Movie and explore themes of childhood through the lens of a kid playing with toys, kinda like the games themselves.
❤
exactly
YES 💯 PLZZZ!!!!
Yes! Exactly this.
10000% on you with this!!!!
I cannot properly express to you the mental stress caused to me by simply hearing Xenoblade and Illumination mentioned in the same video, let alone entertaining the idea of a universe in which Illumination gets to lay a finger on Xenoblade.
My brain just imagin a fusion of a minion and a nopon.
I need help
HAHAHAHA RICEGUM BABY DIE 😂😂🎉👌😊
You probably don’t have to worry as if they make a xenoblade movie it wil be after they make the nintendo flagships like zelda kirby fire emblem etc. (:
@@mrchoyg9297 fun fact monolithe made a xeno saga anime once. I found it once on TH-cam but it get suppress for copyright issue.
That is a horrifying thought...
Splatoon already has their own manga, it would be fun to get a TV show, slice of life, with the idols or the agents to get more depth to their character (tho most likely not the agents cuz that means giving them semi canon genders or appearances.) It would be fun seeing an animated show featuring the idols in a similar way as Sonic Boom (the show) or it could just be an animated version of the manga, or its own show with it's own splatoon characters
Isn't the Splattoon manga the gayest thing ever?
I watched Rise of the TMNT, I'm fine with a bit of gayness, my cousin is gay.
@@ScrugglyEldritchBeing WTF who's gay in a TMNT show?
@@pepepecaspicapapas4726 Explain
@@brainthebrian3690 The turtles do fashion shows and people like to think rotmnt Leo is gay. I would try to explain more but judging a show on its gayness is not my specialty
To be fair, Laika already did one of the best Zelda-like as Zelda-like you can get with Kubo. They even got a musical instrument with magical properties!
Studio Ghibili made Princess Mononoke that heavily inspired BOTW in multiple ways like forest beings, evil pigs, etc
@@elk4588 totally! One can make the argument that Castle in the Sky is like Wind Waker, but up on the air. Such great movies.
@@elk4588 Oh yeah, I remember that. Even both Ashitaka and Link have a cursed arm
Also, I don't think Laika is going to accept this type of collaborations since as far as I know, it is first a passion project by some rich guy who adores stop motion iirc.
Imagine Metroid made as a stop motion horror movie with minimal dialogue and brutal grotesque violence. I would love that
Maybe animate on mostly twos and threes lmao
What if it visually looked like a sci phi movie before CGI rolled around, like the original Star Wars Trilogy, or 2001: A space odyssey
That would honestly be sick
Genndy Tartakovsky’s Metroid
I feel that dreamworks could handle a zelda movie very well. Because of what they did with the HTTYD movies , or even puss in boots the last wish, I would love to see a Zelda movie with either one of those art styles.
DreamWorks could easily pull it off. I would be genuinely hype for it.
EXACTLY, Dreamworks is worthy of making a Zelda animated movie
I think Zelda should be handled by an anime studio. Studio Ghibli would be the most ideal scenario, but that’s a pipe dream.
Omg I didn't think of that but yeah they'd do it so well. Although I do think a zelda film in the stop motion artstyle laika is known for would bring tears to my eyes.
I agree, the MOMENT I heard of the possibility of a Zelda movie I KNEW that DreamWorks should be the one in charge, Illumination cannot handle the Zelda series
I feel like if this were to happen, it’d just end up as a Ralph Breaks the Internet type of situation. Like it tries so hard to incorporate so much in its short runtime yet it’d just fail and land straight on its face 💀.
Man, a Mario and Luigi: Partners in time movie would slapppp, such an underrated game
Probably not happening. If the M&L games were canon to this universe, the Beanbean Kingdom would be within close proximity, and Peach would remember the Shroob invasion when talking about her childhood.
true, but unfortunately the company behind mario and luigi went bankrupt so i doubt it would ever happen :(
or a Mario Galaxy movie?
All the Mario & Luigi games are perfect for comedy animations.
@@SouthernGothicYT Too early for that. Let's explore more of Mario's world first.
There's already a Smash movie that was made, called "There Will be Brawl" available on TH-cam right now. They even got Ganondorf's voice actor to reprise his role, as well as to voice other characters.
(Jokes aside, TWBB is pretty gritty and definitely a product of its time, but it's still worth a watch.)
Okay that actually sounds epic
What about "Reviving the Smash Bros Fighters"?
I think that might count.....
It’s even more ironic when you know the guy who played Ganondorf is actually Matthew Mercer. AKA, the one and only number 1 player of Dungeons and Dragons thanks to his hit series Critical Role where’s he’s the top leader and does a lot of voice roles, like Chrom in Fire Emblem, Yusuke in Persona 5, and Jotaro from Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure.
Seriously. Dude’s been INSANELY talented and he just keeps getting better and better.
Hey, I recently watched that. It was pretty good, all things considered.
@igger Stop spamming
Even before a video like this existed, I was never into the idea of a Smash Bros movie or a Nintendo cinematic universe. It would just be a nightmare to follow/create.
Nah, it would be the greatest thing ever, especially since marvel movies are kinda falling off after endgame.
The funny chipmunks guy is here!
@Voltron77 The issue with this a Smash Bros movie/Nintendo Cinematic Universe is that you can only use like 6 Nintendo franchises. Mario, Zelda, Metriod, DK, Pokemon, and Kirby. The other Nintendo franchises don't have that mainstream popularity or universal appeal in order to benefit from a big theatrical movie plus most of them can't really transition into movies. Maybe Punch Out and Star Fox can, but those series aren't that popular. Series like Xenoblade, Fire Emblem, Kid Icurus, Star Fox, F-Zero, Mother, Arms, Punch Out, Splatoon, etc only work as video games. Plus if you want 3rd party characters that's another issue.
HAHAHAHA RICEGUM BABY DIE 😂😂🎉👌
Even if it did go into production I genuinely think it will take over 10 years to make since there is so many companies you have to get in contacts with and agree and make rules and crap for all sorts
Instead of adapting Smash Brothers to cinema, I think it would do much better as a TV show with a nonlinear narrative. That way, each episode can focus on a few different characters at a time instead of cramming a whole bunch of characters in an hour and a half long movie. It would be somewhat cluttered for sure, but nowhere near as extravagant as it'd be in cinema.
Me personally we could have like 10 episodes introducing the characters then have them go in an arena and have a 1v1 tournament and have their be a prize so they have the incentive to fight each other and have like 50 fights per episode and each episode be around an hour then have the later episodes have less fights so It will be over in like 75 episodes
@@Shinny5350 fights per episode? Jesus Christ, that's a lot. Not only would the pacing be awful (that's 50 1-minute fights for your 1 hour episodes), but also, why do they have to fight in a tournament? I guess it's your Idea, which is fair, but I'm just not sure how well it would work.
Schaffrillas talking about why he loves spinoffs has to be one of my favorite things ever. I relate to what he said so much. And as a random side note, if we're keeping with the trend of casting random big name celebrities as Mario characters, I remember someone saying Danny Devito and Willem Dafoe as Wario and Waluigi, and I kind of love that for some reason.
@TheGlassesPro Jack Black said he envisioned Pascal as Wario. It's not in any way confirmed that Nintendo or Illumination have been looking into casting him, or even that they're looking into casting anyone for Mario movie sequels
@TheGlassesPro No need to apologize man, you're good
I think the perfect crossover we really need is Mario & Sonic at the Olympics
@@Mikomania1 I would argue that only really applies to running. Take swimming, for example. Most of the Mario cast can swim. Sonic, on the other hand? How many sonic characters have you seen actually swim instead of running along the bottom (which would certainly get them disqualified)?
I just think you're ignoring a lot of possibilities here.
That game sure was a very entertaining game. I don't know if it would work as a movie, but it might work...
sidenote: I would love for WarioWare
to just be a silly movie where Wario gets all his friends together to make short films so he can make as much revenue as possible
I think that would be hilarious
Not just short films, makes a streaming service and wants content
WarioWare would unironicly be a BANGER short film series.
Thst would both be amazing and ironic considering how illumination mostly cares about profits over quality
I think Warioware would be better as a cartoon series instead of a movie
An anthology film would be interesting
I would rather it be a series than a movie, so all the characters can have their own spot and time in the series rather than being regulated to cameos
I was thinking of a comedic Smash show in the a la Carnival Phantasm. Of course it wouldn’t be canon and the characters would be toys like in Smash, but rather than fighting, they would go to various locations from their games (which are just setpieces now), crack jokes about their franchises, and have fun together. I’d like that!
@@ButterFlyGardenBlossom yes.
The Super Mario Franchise ITSELF can have its own cinematic universe, nuff' said.
Ahem, Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi, ahem
@@chargeminecraft bro we need a mario and Luigi/paper Mario movie (I will riot to get a super paper Mario related movie)
The Donkey Kong cinematic universe could be a thing, you can even add Wario since it shares universe with Mario, who shares it with Yoshi, who shares it DK, who shares it with Diddy Kong, who shares it with Banjo Kazooie, who shares it with Conker, etc.
@@juanrodriguez9971 at some point you reach doom guy, then sora then Disney becomes owned by Nintendo
@@SalmonRow it is all coming together now. *Marvel Hyperverse, or just called LIMITED BY YOUR IMAGINATION Hyperverse*
Mario and Peach and everyone looked like their characters. But they still had this Illumination look to their faces.
I was thinking that Nintendo could just get different animation studios from both America and Japan to animate movie or show adaptations of their games. They once got the Demon Slayer animation studio to animate cutscenes for one of their games, so it wouldn’t be too far fetched.
I think I get what you mean but I see it differently. Like, I swear I can never watch Mario's movie design without seeing Chris Pratt in it.
I have no idea what that even means. This video isn’t even about just dissing the Mario movie, it’s about literally stating why a Smash Bros movie wouldn’t be a good idea so I have no idea why you felt the need to comment this.
Peach kinda looks like Lucy from Despicable Me ngl
Especially the dog he looks right out off secret life of pets and also up
I'm glad that Schaffrilla addressed people's obsession with everything having to have a cinematic universe. It was pretty cool when marvel did it, but now i'm just getting tired of it.
I’m not
@@salarzx62090 that’s because you’re a consoomer who watches movies like a good little NPC
@@salarzx62090 ok
@@salarzx62090 same
@@Boombastichan Some franchises deserved to be cinematic universes though like Mortal Kombat
my god, a full kid icarus show would be peak human accomplishment.
Omg same. When I said I would love to see it once, someone was like “it wouldn’t do well at all because at this point no one plays the games anymore”. But honestly… they COULD advertise it as just a whole new series, and not play up the fact it’s based on a Nintendo game, that’s how I think it could potentially be successful :)
If we ever get a Kirby movie, then Dedede needs to have the same VA as "Kirby right back at Ya". But who am I kidding? They will most likely have Dave Bautista or Kevin Hardt as his voice.
My money’s on Samuel L Jackson.
-OR CHRIS PRATT-
Same Idea for Meta Knight with my bet on Antonio Banderas
@@omegadrive9999 I thought so too, but then I figured they’d be hesitant to have the character associated with the funny Shrek cat, so theyd maybe get someone more intense like Javier Bardem or Danny Trejo
They already downplayed Meta Knight’s accent as early as Brawl.
I can't really imagine a good plot of a Smash Bros movie, it would be Nintendo characters fighting but what else? The plots for Ultimate and Brawl were good but would it work for a movie?
There was a whole plot in Smash Bros Brawl AND Smash Ultimate
I’m guessing some multiversial threat but most characters would’ve had experience with that before, or someone brings them together in like a tournament and something is happening in the background
That’s sort of my query as well. Fighting game movies typically don’t have strong narratives unless you’re going to focus on individual characters and their connections to each other. But if they’re all from completely different franchises, that’s going to be rough and haphazard storytelling.
Even using the premise of “some massive force pulled these beings into a random place for them to fight to victory,” it feels like the narrative will be peppered with pointless spectacle fights before everyone has to “team-up and defeat the big bad that brought them there.” Which, okay, but it’s not likely to create a compelling movie.
@@skrub_king I know but would that kind of plot work for a movie?
@Vampunz either that or the world of light from ultimate.
A movie adaptation of the Mario rpg series would be BRUTAL, bowser being the good guy or the shroob invasion would be art
And we also shouldn't trust Illumination with any of the Mario RPG stuff either, basically anything focused more heavily on plot should be handed to a different studio.
Or even fawful
Or going to Pillo Island
@@Thecoolgamer-cx9tj the only issue with Fawful is you need at least two movies for him to work properly so they’d have to have enough incentive to commit to tgat
Am I the only one who hates “good guy” Bowser? Like sure give us some new villains, but don’t make Bowser into a complete and utter joke character who becomes a “hero”. Why not make Bowser a SIDE villain instead?
The entire premise of Smash Bros is just the opening scene of Toy Story 3 stretched to 5 games.
Stuff like this is why fan fiction exists
I also belive that DreamWorks would be great for a Zelda movie, I want to imagine that it could be like how to train your dragon
I want Morshu to be foreshadowed in a post credits scene
Hell yeah. And maybe bring in some low frames for some especially intense fights.
I feel like under Nintendo, they could definitely make a good one. Dreamworks is completely capable of putting out some amazing movies under the right circumstances
Or Laika!
They are busy with live action HTTYD
Counter-point: a Smash movie is fun to think about for a couple minutes when you're in a waiting room or the bathroom or something.
Nintendo fans can have a little "thinking about a Smash Brothers movie" as a treat
“No no, he’s got a point.”
Or smash bros could work as short films and instead of a feature length film
@@Mr.Feather130 it can work as an anime. A long ass anime. 4-5 seasons of anything.
A movie with Super Smash Bros Ultimate's cast of characters would be a licensing mess.
My idea for a Smash movie isn't in a cinematic universe. It's a Nintendo version of Surf's Up, instead opting to have a sports documentary format.
As a Metroid fan I must insist that Genndy Tartakovsky would be the perfect choice of director for an adaptation of the series. I mean, do I even need to explain why?
His amazing action sequences?
No he wouldn't he relishes in a snappy cartoony style, Metroid is all about the moody atmosphere, in fact you couldn't really make a better Metroid movie than Alien and Aliens which is already what inspired it.
Primal was good until it started sucking 3/4ths of the way through.
Yes, because I don't know who that is
I don’t think he would, he’s one of my favorites, but I don’t think his style would jive with the feeling and tension of the Metroid franchise
I feel like Zelda might also work better live action, though I wonder how they would get around Link being mute.
Even in the recent games with voice acting, Link not talking is part of the universe.
I honestly think a 2d animated series or movie would work a lot stronger, especially with breath of the wild. Not only do I think it would do a lot of the visual elements of the series more justice - for example, I could not imagine if the Netflix Castlevania was live action instead. I also feel it could be used mor effectively to convey link not speaking.
From my admittedly limited experience with the Zelda franchise... Link talks... just not audibly for the players. If this is a recent change with Breath of The Wild then you can at least understand my confusion with these points that you and Schafrillas are bringing up. Legend of Zelda could probably be a pretty damn good movie/series. Link talking isn't really a big deal.
@@danielarputharaj9918 that’s what I was thinking
Mario is pretty much mute in all his games so just make him talk
@@danielarputharaj9918 The animated would certainly make Link not speaking seem a lot less weird. I guess personally I'd just love to see who they would cast for certain characters like Ganon
Thank you, I felt like I was the only one who DOESN'T want this
Most people seem to hope this will happen from what I've gathered
This video put the potential of a Xenoblade movie made by Illumination in my head.
I'm currently so physically paralysed of fear that I'm using speech-to-text to write this. I'm not sure when, of if I'll recover, and I might need therapy now because of that thought.
Unless done with basically the in-game models, that’d have to be 2d, otherwise that’d be just horrible
Xenoblade with fart jokes ☠️
Shulk grieves over the seeming death of Fiora at the hands of Metal Face at the beginning of the film to California Girls by Katy Perry.
@@alexandercorbett1147 beautiful
Imagine if the Mechon acted exactly like the Minions, complete with babbling and fart jokes. And they poop all over Fiora when they kill her at the beginning 💀
It seems like a really unlikely, unfeasible, idea. I wouldn’t worry about it too much because we probably wouldn’t ever see it even if we wanted to.
Wait a minute *insert Spider-Man pointing meme here*
I imagine all the licenses to get adquire and the pain if the movie does not go well on the box offie
Of all the potential cinematic universes that could be made, a smash brothers is one that has one of the best chances of working out if done well by a talented writer.
@@vice2versa cringe
I agree that not everything needs to be a cinematic universe. I’m so tired of shit like that. I remember Joker being such a breath of fresh air because it wasn’t tied to any version of Batman, it was its own thing. We need more stuff like that
I mean it was a kind of Batman origin story as well, but that was never like a “OOOOHH LOOOK! It’s BATMAN! It’s his STORY! Wow!” The focus was ON THE JOKER, which was great. They didn’t forget about Batman, or more specifically and accurately, Bruce Wayne, as the Wayne’s are significant to plot, and how tied Batman and Joker are together as characters, but that doesn’t take away the focus off of Joker or try to hype up the next film, it just sticks to itself, which is great!
The joker film was good
The "Joker" sucks, so no.
@@StevenJones851 Nope.
@@redactedoktor The "Joker" sucks, so no.
A Kirby movie would work honestly. A cute movie with a dark tone.
And live action, with Kirby played by Sylvester Stallone painted pink
“I’m Kirby, the cute pink mute ball that swallows dark matter entities and eats innocent beings to absorb their talents!”
@@qwirktActually, Stallone would work well as an animated Meta Knight. All u need to do is to put on an accent for it and u are good
Just as long as King Dedede keeps his snazzy louisiana voice from the Anime, this Kirby movie would be perfect. That kind of voice is just irreplaceable.
That last point’s mentality is actually one I’ve had with mariokart for a while. The mario universe is so massive and has so many great characters and locales to pull from, and I feel like when people ask for the guest characters to take up more of the series it just feels like people are missing the fact there’s already so much potential there
Considering all the new characters that Tour has added to the series, it’s clear that there’s still tons of untouched possibilities in the Mario series that Mario Kart can use.
In that case though I feel like many more people care about say Kirby or fox for example rather than dry bones
@@mintystingmoon4787 I doubt Tour even matters in this proyect.
There's actually an old reason why they don't. Part of it was a sort of 'sterilization' of the franchise in the late 2000's, early 2010's.
You notice after Super Paper Mario that the Paper Mario games started going down this idea of generic Toad designs? How the old designs of the enemies started to look closer to the designs from the New Super Mario Bros games?
Nintendo wanted to sort of "scrub" this expanded Mario Universe idea out to make it all uniform. So if it's not from a main Mario game, it's not something they want to be a part of it.
As much as I love _Super Smash Bros._ I don't think a bunch of Nintendo characters bearing eachother up for 90 minutes. I can't imagine there being much of another plot. And these franchises just wouldn't mesh like the different Marvel characters do.
Yeah, an attempt at those bad Taisen Films from Toei's Tokustatu that Yonemura wrote would not work. Hey, if not in America, ask Toei Animation! They're working with Nintendo Pictures, so why not that when the time's right? I'd settle for Toei Smash, they have the talent in writing and animation!
Agreed.
"You expect them do justice to a sci-fi horror franchise like-"
"Kirby!"
"Metroid"
"That too"
Better title: Please Make a Wario Cinimatic Universe
Having Laika do a stop motion movie adaptation of majora's mask would be amazing.
Yeah, that would be amazing
Majora's Mask is incompatible with a video form media, relies too heavily on interacttion
holy shit
i never knew i needed this
I never knew I wanted a Laika Zelda movie, but I absolutely want that now. Like, Laika might be the studio that could handle some of these properties the best, Zelda kind of with the tone of Missing Link, Metroid with Coraline vibes, and Kirby with Kubo vibes, though obviously not all Nintendo stuff would work under them.
We gonna get the actual Mr Link?
As someone that has worked at Laika I can say translating Kirby character anatomy to stop motion would be the biggest nightmare. Metroid or LoZ would be beautiful in Laika style though. Unfortunately I really doubt they would go after such big established properties.
And then there’s Boxtrolls…
*He’s Dead*
I’d like to see Dreamworks do a Zelda movie. I think the franchise would fit the style of their best movies
I would probably choose Laika for a Metroid movie. I would choose either Dreamworks or Studio Ghibli for a Zelda movie.
I mean, if you're firmly in the "Mario Movie was awesome because references" crowd, a Smash Bros. movie is basically the next Citizen Kane.
I’m in the “Mario movie was good because I enjoyed its simple story” crowd as unpopular of an opinion as that is.
The issue there is that the “just references” criticism would apply tenfold to a Smash movie and it would be way more blatant since it’s no longer just Mario, which barely ever had a story.
Okay but what about a Smash bros anime?
@@Rediscool9 based
Bro wants a godfather-like quality in a kids movie 💀💀
An xenoblade movie by illumination would be the funniest shit ever. It would be an absoulute train wreck
Umm Actually It’s A Xenoblade move
Xenoblade would fit better as an anime movie or series IMO
A*
A DK country film with the plot of Tropical Freeze, the villian being King K Rool, David Wise as composer, and Funky Kong screen time would be chef’s kiss
Who'd be your pick for K. Rool? Mine would be Keith David!
@@samalmighty1313 same here he’s the perfect VA for Rool
I’d love that, hope we get a DK movie down the line as that would be sweet (especially if it’s based off the best 2D platformer of all time Tropical Freeze
@@diabeticman2194would also be cool if they show some of the worlds from Tropical Freeze like the Mario movie did with their locations but more extensive. Hell I’d even be down with some of the bosses from that game be in the movie like Bashmaster or Fugu. Kremlings don’t have to be the only foes lol
@@samalmighty1313 I imagine K. Rool needs a menacing but goofy voice, so I'd say Willem Dafoe
if there's ever a Pikmin movie it's gotta be made by Studio Ghibli, they just feel so right for it
100%
They could do Zelda too. That would be awesome
me and my friend were literally talking about this the other day, a studio ghibli pikmin movie would be a dream come true
"Only one cinematic universe has been successful"
A single tear falls from the Monsterverse's eye.
It has made money, but it feeks extremely afraid to tackle on anything that is not Godzilla or King Kong.
@Nicolas Sanabria I mean, being afraid to tackle anything other than 2 of the most iconic and impactful fictional characters of all time isn't exactly surprising.
In the face of a world where anything that isn't Marvel or Star Wars doesn't have a guaranteed future, playing it safe for a while is kinda a necessity for its continued existence.
@@safetymatches8873 i dont necessarily agree. I dont think you can really say a shared universe franchise is successful unless it is able to convince audiences to engage with more niche or expiremental material; thats how you know general audiences on board
@zucchini I think that the much simpler metric of "the movies make money and are received well enough to make more without negative backlash" is a better way of determining success, less room for interpretation.
And even so, kaiju media is inherently more niche than either marvel or DC by a pretty significant margin. The fact the monsterverse has kept interest despite releasing one movie every 2-3 years as opposed to multiple movies every year certainly says something.
@@safetymatches8873 Good point about kaiju being more niche, I guess that is a pretty good metric for success
Hope he's still doing well after the recent tragedy... much respect he's still on the content grind 🙏
IF they make a Smash Bros. movie, it'd need a build up for most of the various characters and a reboot of the Sonic & Pikachu movies to bring them into artistic line before the script starts to take shape.
But most of these characters can happily exist in their own worlds with minimal cross-over.
True, looking forward to it in 2040/50 lol
@whatsuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu imagine a marvel vs capcom movie
i was thinking, if the actual SSB lore is that they're all just toys in a kid's bedroom, then they should adapt that idea, like Zathura or Jumanji, instead of this whole "already living in our world" idea that everyone is thinking about.
That's kinda what I was imagining for the possible (eventual?) Smash Bros movie. Don't try to tie in everything into one universe, but rather keep them all separated so each series can have a chance to be fleshed out on the big screen, with no contamination in-between. Then, once each franchise has at least one or two movies to establish what's going on in that universe, have a extra-universal threat start making its presence known.
Basically, make the movies stand alone, but the Smash Movie MULTI-versal, where the universes collide. The only down side ti that would be the Smash Bros movie would have to be a 3 part in order to fit all the nuances and provide a way to show why an extra-universal being would be interested in bridging or merging the universes together.
Perhaps they might be a "collector" of sorts, looking for prizes to add to their collections, or they seek to acquire the powerful artifacts of each universe to become the ultimate BBEG, or maybe they just want to destroy everything so that it would become "new".
I think when people are saying that people want a cinematic "universe", people don't realize the fans are actually wanting a cinematic multiverse, where things could still be separated, yet have an option to collide, much like how the Smash Bros games show. At least in the first 3 games, it was implied that each character was in their own universe/timeline, then Master Hand plucked them out of it in order to force them to fight for his amusement, with the Victor ultimately fighting against him and (possibly) killing him.
Not every movie needs to be set in the same universe, just as long as there is a feasible (and logical) way to justify seeing the universes collide.
@@Art-X-W maybe in phase 15 lol
Imagine Dreamworks made the Zelda movie. Considering that a lot of their movies have a lot of great emotion mixed with comedy, maybe they could tackle Zelda.
Bro imagine a Zelda film with Puss in Boots’ animation and art style 👀
Dreamworks feels like a double edged sword (haha) for a Zelda movie
They could make a The Last Wish type movie or it could be Turbo/Shark Tale level
@@Duskool Dreamworks movies are great when they put full effort into movies. (The Bad Guys, Shrek, The Last Wish, HTTYD). It's the cash grabs like Trolls, The Boss Baby, and Shark Tale that aren't good.
Now THAT could work, but I do not trust Illumination with my favorite franchise
Given that Dreamworks did utilise an anime-style before with Voltron, I can kinda see Zelda having a more anime-like animation.
If that does happen there needs to be a scene with Link finding a Great Fairy Fountain and the Fairy Godmother randomly popping out
If a Luigi's mansion movie would happen, it'd be dope if they added references to other franchises, just like they did with the Mario movie. and since Luigi's Mansion is a bit on the more horror side, it'd be cool if they added a Metroid reference since both franchises have horror as a theme
4:30 You know, a Smash bros movie with the premise they are toys a kid is playing with and do it a Lego Movie actually sounds pretty cool ngl
I can't describe how much I want a Superstar Saga movie. No matter how unrealistic it may be.
us TTYD fans are starving, I'll take something as small as a map having the word "Rogueport" on it in the corner
Oh god yes!
Superstar saga is amazing and I would actually be willing to watch that
@@deanmoriarty6015 bUt YoU cAn’T sHoW A nOoSe iN a KIdS mOviE!
@@whyiwakeup6460 off the top of my head both klaus and the addams family (2019) had visual references to nooses. so it seems like it's fair game
It actually just dawned on me how well a Warioware movie would fit the Illumination style. Like, the art direction of Despicable Me wouldn't look too bad on Diamond City and even the grossout humor or pop music could be excused with Wario and idk Jimmy T respectively
Also, vaguely related but the plot of Sing alone has a ton of similarities with the one of Mega Microgame$
YES WARIO MOVIE PLEASE!
Another reason why a Mario Cinematic Universe would be better than a Nintendo Cinematic Universe would be because it gives a lot of obscure and forgotten characters from the Mario franchise a chance to come back in a new medium, like Geno for example!
Plus, if you count RareWare’s N64 characters who made an early debut in Diddy Kong Racing, then Banjo and Conker could also contribute material for a Mario Cinematic Universe. The studios in charge would just need to strike a deal with Microsoft, who now currently owns those characters.
Granted, an adaptation of the Banjo-Kazooie games would be much easier to market as an extension of the Mario Cinematic Universe than an adaptation of “Conker’s Bad Fur Day”. The latter would need to have an R-rating like the Deadpool movies to be faithful, while a Mario Cinematic Universe is otherwise universally geared to be family friendly, more so than the Fox X-Men films. So in order for a Conker movie to work, the mainstream marketing would likely need to distance Conker from the Mario/D.K./Wario/Banjo films, but then maybe catch the theater audience off guard with surprise/hidden references and cameos linking the two properties.
@@markcobuzzi826 Don't do that, don't give me hope.
Wouldn't they need to get in touch with Square Enix as well for Geno specifically?
geno wont return. geno was gone long ago
This! I don’t want a NCU I feel like it should just stick to Mario.
I've literally woken up in a cold sweat after the thought of an illumination Metroid movie entered my head. Here's hoping that's not the timeline we live in.
I always thought it would be cool to see a live action Metroid, and I'm going to keep cautiously hoping for that. I want to see a truly horrifying depiction of Ridley on screen! It's like, my childhood dream. Well, that and Ridley in Smash, but we got that already.
Schafrillas, lemme just take this moment to say that you are a goated channel. Even though this year had been incredibly rough for you you didn't stop making content for us, thank you and never stop making these banger videos.
His editor died! Rahhhhhhhhh!!!!
@@franticfern5254 his brother.
@@HawtDawg and?
No this video absolutely sucked and only proves that this guy has zero creativity or vision. His reasons for why this couldnt work are all awful. Only thing i agree with is that illumination seem to be terrible storytellers but so was Sony until they got the guys that gave us Into the Spiderverse.
@@HawtDawg just take a joke bro💀
I would die to see a claymation Pikmin movie by Laika or Aardman. I’ve always wanted to see the Pikmin 2 boxart/instruction manual come to life.
I can see DreamWorks owned by Universal do Pikmin.
dude YES, Pikmin would totally look amazing in the Aardman style
@@ranelgallardo7031 Dreamworks and Aardman didn’t really go out on the best terms in the mid 2000s since they constantly wanted to retool their movies to suit an American audience
Man, a video highlighting the problems with a potential Smash Bros. movie has been a long time coming, that's for certain. Thank you for making this; so many great points here!
Also, with regards to Kirby in particular... eh, I personally think that a Kirby movie would be better off being handled by a Japanese animation studio, as the Kirby series is super popular in Japan, and while HAL have been making a greater effort to push the series overseas, particularly with Forgotten Land's success, I don't think it's gotten to the point where a bunch of people working at a western studio happen to be fans of the series yet. Really, as long as the film is treated with just as much care as The Super Mario Bros. Movie was given by Illumination and Nintendo, I'd be happy.
100% agree! i would also love to see another kirby anime, with other characters added in like bandana dee! if a japanese studio ever made a kirby movie i would die for it to include the return to dreamland squad
I also feel like a Splatoon movie made by DreamWorks could definitely have a lot of potential!
Lord and Miller are the only ones that have proven a concept like this could work.
The lego movie is a movie which in concept aounds terrible but in reality is one of the best movies ever made, their direction really makes all the difference
And yet, the reason it works is because it's kids playing with toys
@@tmartin95 true!
Those two would be perfect directors for a Smash Bros. Movie ngl.
Ikr
I honestly hope that they don’t make a smash movie. I personally want these properties to be their own universes separately. Just all under one studio like Nintendo
I hope Illumination eventually touches the mother series though, I feel like it's just enough chaos for illumination to handle
Agreed. If a smash movie ever were to happen, I want to be its own thing, and not connected to really any other movie
@@MarioKartSuperCircuit fuck no lmao
@@aborealisglfry I mean it wont be like Mario contacts Link on the daily, like if they were Tony Stark and Peter Parker in the same world and universe.
Obviously when all things are said and done they go do their own thing, in their own respective universes.
i jus wanna see splatoon as a movie
A smash bros movie is a cute idea when you’re thinking about it in your head, but realistically is something that wouldn’t really make sense to do legitimately and especially legally with all the character rights.
Same.
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I don't want a Smash Bros cinematic universe. But I really want a Kirby movie someday.
I would actually watch a gritty adrenaline fueled live action Ice Climber movie. Sounds cool.
Please I need more Ice Climbers in my lifffeeee
They need to make that but a game. Like the Kid Icarus reboot, it should be third person, have amazing detail, and be kind like breath of the wild, but you hunt and kill bears and it's in a blizzard. Popo and Nana could have character development and look out for one another. It needs to happen.
it would be like 127 hours, but with ice or something. it does sound kinda cool.
PLEASE I’d love a gritty Ice Climbers movie😭