I want to point out that Mike sang "My Way" by Paul Anka nearing the end of Sing, which is a song about a man who's recognized that he's dying soon and wants to go out on his own accord. They foreshadowed his death.
There's also an Urban Legend about people singing My Way and dying. This actually happened in the Philippines where people were fighting so much so that they can sing My Way in a karaoke and they ended up killing each other.
Fun fact: I passed a physics test by one point in 10th grade. One of the questions I got right was a question on the difference between a vector and a scalar. I remembered the definition of a vector from the "VECTOR! Committing crimes with both direction AND MAGNUTUDE! Oh yeah" quote. I literally passed a test solely because of Vector
The Lorax is such a significant part of all fandom history. The fact that people were so desperate to ship the once-ler with someone that they literally split him in two to pair him with himself is something that needs to be reflected upon. We did this, and we need to stop pretending like it didn’t happen.
Fun story: While watching Sing 2 with my younger cousins, I asked myself "Hey, where's the mouse from the first one?" I laid down on the couch and put my hand slightly under it, at which point I felt a small fuzzy object that I assumed was a cat toy. When I pulled the object out, however, I found that it was indeed not a cat toy but rather the body of a dead mouse. That gave me all the answers I needed to my previous question.
He sing "My Way" by Frank Sinatra and, there's this superstition in our country that the song is cursed and people who sang "My Way" in a karaoke or bar, they'll die. Super bizarre stuff I know.
The Lorax is such a significant part of all fandom history. The fact that people were so desperate to ship the once-ler with someone that they literally split him in two to pair him with himself is something that needs to be reflected upon. We did this, and we need to stop pretending like it didn’t happen. right
I'm genuinely surprised that you never talked about how much the first Despicable Me movie's soundtrack SLAPS in every direction and magnitude. It's such an underrated aspect of the movie and is honestly one of the very few that I'd unironically listen to once in a while just because It's that good. Especially the ending song by Robin Thicke out of all people.
I'm probably too confident in saying this, but Despicable Me has the best OST out of the entire studio, and probably one of the best of all time, I will die on this hill. (you know what? change my mind, the franchise as a whole has a goated OST collection)
@@DrinzenDrawz feel like you’re underestimating Pharrell here, unless you only mean his work as a movie soundtrack producer. At one point the man was producing over half of the greatest hits in America.
It's genuinely fascinating the way I forgot literally every single detail about Despicable Me 3, including its existence, but slowly it all came back to me as its review came on
The only thing I can remember from DM3 is that Trey Parker is in it. Him suddenly being in any production outside of ones where he has full involvement and creative control is surreal. Wonder if SP ever made fun of an Illumination movie; can't recall that it has happened yet.
@@liamphibia spoilers for KFP 3 When his dad said "I don't want to lose you again!" Only for Po to respond with "you already did" was probably the hardest hit thrown in the whole trilogy, and I doubt the 4th one will top that line.
The Vector grimwalker theory is actually brilliant, because it also explains how Vector is such a perfect specimen, since he is the culmination of hundreds, possibly thousands of failed Vectors
the idea of vector clones is unironically more entertaining to me than the clone wars. Instead of many clones with the same core structure and fighting for the same purpose, we have many vectors with different personalities, each being less perfect than the last. one thing they all have in common is that they commit crimes with DIRECTION and MAGNITUDE. OH YEAH
Wait hang on a second. If Vector is a clone, then does this mean we see another version of him rise up in the next movie? Maybe it's like an army of Vectors all facing off against Gru?
When I saw El Macho in Despicable Me 2, and they gave him this overly detailed backstory, I said to myself "okay, that's a red herring. No way they're not bad at storytelling that they'd reveal the big bad of mystery in the first minute of the investigation starting." And then they did. I always thought the film could have been more clever if all of the people at the strip mall were retired villains. Like the barber would be "The Eagle" or something. And they all decided to retire after finding new purposes like Gru. And the real villain was the secret agency that was trying to steal all their tech because the guy in charge was a villain himself. The movie had a lot going for it to be good, and then it didn't. It just burned, haaaaard.
Imagine if it was a murder mystery where the main villain (el macho in this case) had killed (albeit in funny pg ways) a lot of other villains and they had to figure out the villain murders. Maybe they did this plot already in a different movie but imagine the potential of it coming from despicable me
Schaff, if you are disappointed on how little of a soul sucking experience this ranking was. Remember that we are still waiting for that Artemis Fowl review. This will surely cheer you up.
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@@sophiebubbles07 May God bless you and your family and help you Give your life to Jesus Christ and repent. I pray that God will lead on the path to Jesus Christ and send the Holy Spirit to be your helper. I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus Christ I pray Amen! Jesus Christ loves you. Give your life to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness for ALL OF YOUR SINS. Even the ones committed in the past and repent. He’s coming soon. Please pray and repent.
I’ve always had pretty low standards for films as a kid, and even as an adult. I typically enjoy whatever you put in front of me. But I distinctly remember watching Hop as a kid and realizing for the first time that movies can, in fact, be bad.
Eh, I'm not hard to please either and I also hate this freakin movie! I mean, worse flicks came out that year(like Green Lantern and the Smurfs movie) but at least I found some enjoyment in them. Hop just annoyed me at my core!
The impact that vector had on me is truly astounding. I'm an engineering student in university and of course, in physics, we learn about vectors and how THEY HAVE DIRECTION AND MAGNITUDE. I literally cannot forget it just because of Despicable Me.
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"Gru can't long to be a Bad Guy again. We can't have the main character of a franchise entitled *DESPICABLE* *ME!!!* be interested in Villainy anymore!" I can not express how happy I was to hear you say that. Seriously, I feel like by the time 3 came out, the writers completely forgot what the word Despicable meant, and saw this as just another kiddy franchise.
Times the Liar Revealed Cliche is used in Illumination movies: Despicable Me (2010): It happens when Gru adopts Anges, Edith and Margo and initially lies about the supervillain he secretly is until they find out on their own later in the movie. Hop (2011): Mr. Bunny learns from Carlos his son E.B. 's intentions to run away and complete his dream of being a rock music drummer not the easter bunny and sends the pink berets to Los Angeles to find him and bring him home. Later when E.B. meets Fred O’ Hare and the latter initially wants nothing to do with him; he fakes being injured so the latter would let him stay but E.B. fails to keep the lie forever because he soon sneaks out of the garage and back into the house and makes a mess showing that he is perfectly fine so Fred tried to dump him back into the wild as payback for it until E.B. lying again that he was the Easter Bunny convinced Fred to let him stay but the Pink Berets’ presence following the Hasselof audition causes him to admit the truth behind running away and Mr. Bunny his dad being the real Easter Bunny to Fred but Fred accepts it as at this point accepted E.B. as his friend. It happens briefly in the scene where E.B. fakes his death in the third act. The Lorax (2012), Aloysius O’ Hare the main villain uses a big one where he hides the destruction caused by the Once-Ler and his family from the residents of Thneedville and the makes up the fact that trees are filthy and dangerous and should be avoided and not planted at all costs so they could keep buying his fake purified air so the townsfolk won’t get interested in nature again and plant trees that will turn Carbon Dioxide into Oxygen and therefore no one will buy his purified air anymore, shutting down his business, but Ted soon learns about it when he visits the Once-Ler and soon reveals it to the townsfolk and they turn on and exile O’Hare and let the truffula tree be planted and respect animals, plants and nature once more and have carbon dioxide be turned into oxygen by the plants once more. In the Once-Ler’s flashbacks a brief one happens where after The Lorax and animals save the Once-Ler and he questions how his bed got in the water the Lorax reluctantly admits the truth behind putting his bed in the water though they saved him only due to Pipsqueak’s presence before the Once-Ler makes his promise not to cut down any more trees. Another happens were when the Once-Ler initially keeps his promise and has him and his family make the thneeds by harvesting the tufts without killing the trees and harming the environment, his greedy and lazy family manipulate him into cutting down the trees to speed up its production and become the egocentric greedy businessman he is and lie that his actions will cause no consequences for the environment and keep the Lorax away to prevent him from snapping him out of the manipulations and see the damage he and his family are causing and by the time the Once-Ler does it is too late, and his mom throws him away like garbage and makes Bret his new son before she and the rest of the family leave with all the money and the Once-Ler having a grudge and hostility towards his family especially his mom ever since for manipulating him and for destroying the forest and the animals’ home all for the promised money and fame. Despicable Me 2 (2013): None are used. Minions (2015): None are used. The Secret Life of Pets (2016), none are used though there is a third-act misunderstanding and plot-mandated friendship failure between Duke and Max where after they arrive at Duke’s old owners’ home so Duke would get to reunite with and live with his old owner and give Max his position as Katy’s best pet back, they discover that he died of old age and a new family with a pet cat moved in and though he initially refused to believe it Duke does and he stupidly assumes that Max knew the truth all along and had been trying to rid of him just so he could have Katy all to himself again and reprimands him for it before their e-encounter with SnowBall and the Flushed Pets, and in the climax the misunderstanding is cleared up and Duke reconciles with Max and the two live peacefully together with Katy again. Sing (2016): Buster Moon uses a big one that becomes the plot device for the film, (Aside from Lance keeping his romance with Becky a secret from Ash and him cheating on her until the end and Johnny attending the singing competition behind his father, Big Daddy’s back the revelation causes Big Daddy to angrily disown Johnny until their reconciliation at the end and for Ash to break-up with Lance.) after he learns that Mrs. Crawley by accident had added zeros to the flyer for the singing competition and changed the 1,000 dollars to 100,000 dollars and scared to reveal the truth to the constants manages to lie about the prize money until he gains the real one with Nana Goodleman’s reluctant help, but by the end of the second act, the Bears and Mike end up learning the truth and when the other protagonists confront Buster for his lie it leads to Moon Theater’s destruction and Nana’s falling out with Buster and Judith and the bank repossessing the lot where the theater once stood, and Buster moving in with Eddie and cleaning cars in a car wash as a new job, it leaves everyone heroic BSoD (As it also cost Ash her boyfriend Lance and Johnny his father Big Daddy) until Buster watching Meena sing at the lot of the former encouraged him to have him and his troupe perform the singing competition without the prize money at the lot just for fun and behind Judith’s back but when she finds out she attempts to halt the show and send everyone away for trespassing on private property and call the police to have everyone arrested for it but this fails and Judith gets pricked by Ash’s quills during her performance of “Set It All Free” while Johnny and his father reconcile and Nana has a change of heart after secretly watching the show and reforms Judith and reposses the lot where the theater once stood and has it reopened with Nana and Buster as its managers. Despicable Me 3 (2017): Gru has one with his brother Dru where he lies about getting the diamond from Baltzaar to have them serve as villains again but in reality did it to stop Baltzaar’s plans so he and Lucy would be rehired at the anti-villain league, and when the truth comes out it causes Dru to have a falling out with Gru and disown him as his brother, but the two manage to reconcile and alongside Lucy, the minions, Lucy, Anges and Edith and Margo defeat Baltzaar in the climax and stop his evil plans. Gru also has a brief one towards Gru and Lucy about never returning to villainy which he and the minions of course do and when Gru and Lucy find out they choose not to stop him but let him be the villain he wishes and follow Dru and Gru’s father’s legacy of being one anyway. The Grinch (2018): The Grinch as one while disguising himself as Santa Claus and stealing the whos’ Christmas and pretending to be Santa to Cindy after she “catches” him, Cindy Lou Who towards her mother and brothers in regards to catching “Santa” when both truths are revealed they are forgiven for it though the Grinch really did the wrong thing though he redeems himself for it at the end, Cindy was just trying to help her mother via her wish to Santa. The Secret Life of Pets 2 (2019): None aside from Max’s minor ones to Rooster.
If I recall correctly, I read that the minions were originally designed to have a more monstrous appearance, but due to budget restrictions (Despicable Me did has a slightly lower budget than most other major films of the year), they made the minions much simpler, with assorted body types, eyes, and hair. Props to Illumination, because this worked, though it unfortunately set the trend of Illumination being able to put very little effort and still turn a profit.
@@pudd1ng_bunn182 Somehow, the Rabbids had the same "monstrous concept to simplified goofballs to pop culture reign of terror" before the Minions, but they burned out faster.
@@magicalminachan and made a surprisingly positive comeback with the Mario + Rabbids crossover. Meanwhile kids shows are pumping out gibberish speaking trios left and right. I can see where your coming from though.
I have a memory of Illumination that I'll never forget. When I was younger I went to a big girl scout sleepover event that took place inside a roller rink. Right before we went to sleep, they had us all vote on two movies we could watch. The first one was Inside Out, which is one of my favorite movies. After it was over, I was feeling pretty tired and decided to sleep when they played the second movie. The second movie voted for was Minions. And let me tell you, trying to fall asleep while listening to these yellow little bastards babble, the sound of their obnoxious voice echoing off the speakers and straight into my ears as I try to block off the sound with my pillow until I eventually pass out. Now that, THAT is a special kind of hell I will never forget.
OMG I have a very similar memory, a girl scout sleepover at a roller rink, only the movie they chose to put on was 13 going on 30. I hate that movie to this day
I have something similar too. My younger siblings were doing a family night and I really wanted to watch Kiki’s Delivery Service or Emperors New Groove. but they wanted to watch Minions since Kiki seemed to girly for them especially for a guy and they never watched ENG. When they turned it on, I just watched Kiki on my phone and it was so annoying to listen to it while having Minion noises in the background.
once when I was in elementary my tio wanted to spend some time with me, so him, his daughter, and I went to go watch despicable me 2. I remember just being completely stone faced and after it was over thinking "I don't like the minions anymore" lol
This implies he does have perfect control over his pecs and can squeeze them together hard enough to launch a crown at Mach 3 or something. ...Which to be fair is not something we can't disprove he's capable of.
The sad thing is, The Lorax could've been amazing if they took the themes of Biggering and made them the focus. Hell, they could've STILL included How Bad Can I Be if they just had it chronicle the very start of The Onceler's descent into prideful greed, then had Biggering come in after he's become a mastermind. It probably could've made it one of Illumination's best.
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Rumour has it Illumination dropped Biggering because it gave them cold feet given their own rise to significance. Well that and the movie had a shit ton of corporate sponsors they didn't want to piss off. That one's a fact.
This is gonna sound really weird, but my least favorite part of the minions movie was that it totally scrambled their lore. On the disc for Despicable Me 1 was a fun short where gru explains how he and dr. nefario created the minions, which was a great fit; like most of their inventions, the minions are helpful and useful, but also very obviously flawed. It made perfect thematic sense. Now, their lore is a bunch of nonsensical garbage that leads nowhere...
The fact that Vector only got about 7 minutes of screen time is CRIMINAL! He's easily my favorite character in the movie. That character is actually genius
The Grinch has always been one of the most interesting phenomenon with movies for me. Somehow two different people made Grinch movies and then had the exact opposite problem. Ron Howard’s Grinch has a really grimy Whoville and misses the point of the story by having the Whos antagonize The Grinch first, while Jim Carrey just absolutely kills in the title role. Like, legit, my family still watches The Jim Carrey Grinch to this day because of how memorable and iconic he is. Illumination, on the other hand, manages to capture the spirit of Whoville being this wholesome and sweet Christmas town, but has the most milquetoast and uninteresting Grinch they could have made. Like, I seriously don’t know how they managed to make him such a boring character. You’d think the people behind Despicable Me would have at least gotten The Grinch right in making him a total jerk, but he’s not even really mean or cranky. They just make him… some guy, really. There’s nothing memorable about their Grinch movie at all.
To be fair to the live action Grinch, the grimy vibes of Whoville were meant to paint the idea of a town that had forgotten about the spirit of Christmas and focused solely on the capitalism parts of it. That was always an underlying thing even in the books; while not outright stated the Grinch hated what he saw as excessive noise makers that'd be abandoned once they lost luster, a bunch of food for no other reason than to have food, and the fact he was just a prick who wanted peace of mind and wanted to hear the town cry for once. In the movie they just dial that to an extreme: he lives in a landfill effectively full of that stuff. You could argue the backstory of the Grinch is a bit weak and I'd agree, but I'd say it manages to add onto the book in a unique way that still keeps the general message of "There's more to Christmas than meets the eye". I can get not liking the vibes of the movie and think it spits on the book - but it's a more faithful adaptation than whatever they fucking did to the Lorax or the Grinch by Illumiantion. Like seriously - they really missed the point of the Grinch being the Grinch in the illumination movie. That's as crucial as the underlying message. The Grinch in that movie 'wants' Christmas but is literally too tsundere to get it normally. That's not at all what the Grinch was like at all. Tldr: I recommend watching some deeper analysis of the adaptations the Live Action movie did, whether you hate the movie or not - there's some genuinely good ideas the guys had, and if you wanna see how that went all wrong- see the Cat in the Hat movie, which was made to try and emulate the Grinch. And failed. Horribly.
Alternate theory... Vector IS old, it's just that he managed to steal the elixor of life, keeping himself young. The reason this didn't become the "crime of the century" was because he was still new to villainy and wanted to lay low.
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I love that since moana is in most if the stills schaff takes drom the movie fir his avatar, when he's yelling about something we can just see moana in the foreground with her hair blowing back. I love the implication that for the entirety of the recording process, schaff is just having a one sided conversation/rant at a random child who walked into his lair
Me: *enters dragons lair* Dragon: *captures me* 5 hours later Dragon: SO THEN THE RIGHTERS THREW HER ENTIRE CHARACTER ARCH IN THE GARBAGE FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF INSECURE SHOCK BAIT AND HAD HER- Me: PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT BAD MOVIES TO ME I HAVEN’T SEEN MY FAMILY IN 5 HOURS!
I think Illumination should take a break from making sequels and films in the Despicable Me franchise to avoid milking that franchise to death (Similar to the Ice Age and Shrek and Toy Story franchises and The Good Dinosaur, Ice Age, Mr. Peabody and Sherman and Croods franchises also need a crossover all produced by Pixar (Formerly Blue Sky Studios) and DreamWorks Animation while all these other films and franchises are produced by those animation studios and Walt Disney Animation Studios, Illumination, Warner Animation Group, and Sony Pictures Animation.) after Despicable Me 4 and Minions: The Rise of Gru and produce more films and sequels in the Sing, Migration, The Secret Life of Pets and The Super Mario Bros. Movie franchises and more original movies and feature films including: Sing 3 and Sing 4 the sequels to Sing 2 as well as spin-off films including one focusing on the Beetles (A Parody of the Beatles but with beetles instead of humans.) and Queen and Daft Panther (Parodying Queen and Daft Punk but with anthropomorphic animals instead of humans.), one focusing on Porsha Crystal, Clay Calloway and Nooshy (Related to The Penguins of Madagascar: The Movie and the Puss in Boots duology and Minions movies.), and Porsha and Nooshy getting married in a same sex romance and having northwestern wolf pup and Canada lynx kitten children to raise including a northwestern wolf pup son Luke Crystal for Porsha and Canada lynx kitten son Liam for Nooshy and Clay Calloway trying to reunite his old rock music band Unicorn 2 (Parodying U2) and one focusing on Johnny and Ash and the two getting married and having mountain gorilla and crested porcupette kids to raise, (Or Porsha, Johnny, Ash and Nooshy all getting their own love interests and new main characters to marry and have kids to raise with.) a superhero movie franchise with anthropomorphic animals instead of humans same for a science fiction film and a prequel to Sing 2 and midquel to Sing focusing on Porsha Crystal, Nooshy, Darius and Suki Lane and Jimmy Crystal in Crystal Entertainment or Ash, Meena and Johnny and Lance in college related to Monsters’ University, All Hail King Julien and the Minions movies (Minions and Minions: The Ride of Gru) and all introducing lots of new great characters. Or even a television series, Sing: The Series in 2D animation. A Sing franchise crossover with The Bad Guys franchise and Zooptoia franchise (And maybe it's remakes and fanfiction sequel, Losses of Heroes, Zootopia 2.0 and Zooptoia: A City Full of Mystery and Romance might also do.) and Kung Fu Panda franchise and Cars franchise and Trolls and Elemental franchises if we're lucky might also do. The Super Mario Bros. Movie 2 and 3 the sequels to The Super Mario Bros. Movie and introduce Wario and Waluigi the evil counterparts to Mario and Luigi and spin-offs focusing on Yoshi, Kirby, Princess Peach, Rosalina and Princess Daisy, Toad and Toadette and Donkey Kong and an adaptation of Donkey Kong: Frozen Country and adaptations of Super Mario 3D World, Super Mario Odyssey, The Legend of Zelda, Super Smash Bros. Ultimate and of course, Super Mario Wonder and Bowser’s Fury and create a Nintendo Cinematic Universe and have it also cross over with the Wreck-It-Ralph franchise, Sonic the Hedgehog franchise and Pac-Man franchise and Q’Bert franchise. They also deserve 2D animated series. The Secret Life of Pets 2 and 4 the sequels to The Secret Life of Pets 2 and spin-off feature films focusing on some of the characters and a superhero pet and human film similar to the DC League of SuperPets same for a science fiction film and ones focusing on zoo animals and wild animals and crossovers with The Wild Robot, DC League of SuperPets, The Garfield Movie, The Peanuts Movie, And Tango Makes Three, Galapagos George, Astro the Steller Sea Lion, Open Season, Madagascar and Bolt, Inside Out, and Toy Story franchises will also do all of whom also introduce lots of new characters. It also deserves a 2D animated TV series. Sequels to Migration like Migration 2 and Migration 3 and ones being crossovers with the Rio franchise and Finding Nemo franchise and new ones. Minions 3 and Despicable Me 5 and Despicable Me franchise films and a superhero spin-off same for a science fiction film that cross over with the Frozen, Big Hero 6, Tangled, Moana, Incredibles, Shrek, Megamind, Monsters Vs. Aliens, Disney Princesses, Hotel Transylvania, Onward, Soul, Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, Spider-Verse trilogy, Captain UnderPants, Coco and Enchanto franchises. Lots of other original movies and franchises to be produced by Illumination aside from Big Tree. They also deserve 2D animated series.
Fun fact: Illumination actually wanted Benedict Cumberbatch to use his natural British accent for the role of the Grinch, but he thought that using a voice like that would make him seem out-of-place compared to the Whos of Whoville, who all use American accents. And of course, rather than sitting him down and explaining to him that the Grinch is _supposed_ to be an outsider who doesn't fit in, and that him being the only one with a different accent would actually fit the story and the character's relation to the Whos of Whoville perfectly... Illumination apparently just went "yUp, mAkEs ToTaL sEnSe" and agreed to him using the somewhat-nasally, American-accented, not-at-all-sinister voice he uses in the final movie.
They did a similar thing with Fate:The Winx Saga. Abigail Coven’s Bloom, outsider protagonist and only fairy from Earth, has an American accent, while the rest of the cast is British. And if Fate: The Winx Saga does something better than you, you’ve screwed up.
@@BucioTheZenith i think it was both his mistake for not understanding the character and Illumination mistake for "forgetting" this fact. I say forgetting in quotes beacuse they probably didn't even care about the orignal story
The amount of terror I felt when we reached the final entry on this list, but still had 15 minutes of the video left, cannot be overstated. I love this.
I know, I mean, I predicted it probably was going to be Hop when the video started, but after seeing talk about The Secret Life of Pets 2 and their adaptation of The Grinch, my brain could not comprehend a worse movie, that I was terrified to find out what it was. And then when he said that he noticed a unfortunate trend in the animation industry, and then the underwear water music played, and the shot of the photo realistic Mario gave so chills. I mean I suppose both weren't the worst thing ever, they were just weirdly effective
It’s funny how there are two movies where the protagonist is trying to grow a plant and likes a girl named Audrey, and one of them is my favorite movie-musical, and the other one…is Illumination’s The Lorax.
We need to really appreciate Shaff for this. If we thought the sony ranking was bad this must have been torturous for him. Thank you Shaff for sacrificing your soul to give us entertainment.
Holy shit man, Biggering is actually insane. I can't believe Illumination wrote the perfect song that fit the message perfectly and then CUT IT, because the *CORPERATION* who made it thought that the *ANTI-CORPERATION* song in the *ANTI-CORPERATION* story was too *ANTI-CORPERATION*
I've also heard some people say in the comments of the biggering video, that biggering is what actually happened and that how bad can I be is how the onceler told the kid how it went. but good GOD it would've made the movie so much better if it were in there tbh
I desperately need some leftist millennial white guy youtuber absolutely off his zloingy on out of date hundreds & thousands to make a two hour long video discussing the themes of nepotism and racism in Hop
@@jellifygirl I would make it (I'm a white zoomer left winger) but I don't want to subject myself to that god-awful movie that I would have to do to throughout analyze it.
the fact a lot of his vtuber crab images have moana not cropped out give me a hilarious mental image of tamatoa winning against maoi, kidnapping moana and every so often just ranting to her about movies and shes like "oh god i wanna see my family-" "WHY DOESNT HE USE THE DEHYDRATION GUN"
Nah, Moana enjoys their time together. They have this thing every week where Tamatoa will rant for movies for hours on end, then Moana goes back to the realm of the mortals. Sometimes, she joins in as well.
Times Illumination rip-offs elements from other movies and franchises: Despicable Me franchise: Inspired by the Megamind and Incredibles franchises and Frozen and Big Hero 6 franchises (From DreamWorks Animation, Walt Disney Animation Studios and Pixar.) but in the secret agent genre instead of the superhero genre. Hop: Live-action Alvin and the Chipmunks and Smurfs plus Garfield franchises. (From Regency Enterprises, 20th Century Fox and Sony Pictures Animation.) The Lorax: Based on the 1971 book by Dr. Seuss and 1972 animated special and is inspired by Wall-E. (From Pixar.) The Secret Life of Pets franchise: Inspired by the Toy Story franchise (From Pixar.) but with pets instead of living toys and Bolt, The Aristocats, Lady and the Tramp and 101 Dalmations and Dumbo. (From Walt Disney Animation Studios.) Sing franchise: Inspired by the Zootopia, Robin Hood, Trolls, Cars and Kung Fu Panda franchises. (From Walt Disney Animation Studios, Pixar and DreamWorks Animation.) The Grinch: (Based on How the Grinch Stole Christmas!, its 1957 book and 1966 animated special and 2000 live-action movie and various Christmas specials.) The Super Mario Bros. Movie franchise (Inspired from The Spider-Verse trilogy, and Wreck-It-Ralph franchise from Sony Pictures Animation and Walt Disney Animation Studios and based on the Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Donkey Kong, Toad and Princess Peach video games from Nientendo.) Migration (Inspired by Finding Nemo from Pixar, the Rio franchise from Blue Sky Studios and The Lego Movie franchise.) Big Tree (Unknown as of now.) Illumination feels like the Pixar and Blue Sky Studios to Universal Pictures.
Imagine the kind of universe we'd live in if Illumination chose to put the same amount of heart into the rest of their movies as they did with Despicable Me 1
@@PresbianTier, Yo same here. I still remember the _"I love Candi!"_ scene, not the entire lyrics, just that... But I never thought it was THIS insulting though, Holy shiet.
I mean between Illumination "canonizing" Minions murdering children and refusing to acknowledge their role during WW2 it's not the weirdest thing this company has done.
@@GenericProtagonist118, Your comment vanished sadly (YT sure has been slacking with bots though and they don't anything) but I will recall it. The thing about them working for the big evil German mustached man is a bit void considering that they were stuck in that ice cave, more so interested in forming a civilization then outright murder this time... --As far as I know. If they were, there would not even be any Minion existence for what I would do of this acknowledgment.-- BUT then again I guess they would help other big bads in history, such as helping the crucifixion of Jesus or one of those past over lords in history... Unless Minions have the Roronoa Zoro logic of just not picking up good directions of genuinely Evil people. Not every master was considered bad though, they tried helping out the precursor Caveman of humanity just struggling for survival.
@@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 Doesn't show my comment vanishing on my end but it's maybe because I brought up them demonetizing a MOONGLOW ANIMATIONS stop motion that has minions getting massacred and them... "Stealing the consciousness" from little girls... It's sounds much worse out of context but it's still kinda awful in context. It's a good stop motion though.
I literally met the guy who voiced vector (pls don’t @ me for not remembering his name lmao I’m tired rn) but holy hell it was fun. Apparently he planned on giving Vector a deep, sultry, manly voice (because of how nerdy vector looks, he thought it’d be funny). I love that there is an alternate universe out there where vector has like, a kronk voice lmao
Thank you Scahff, not only for putting yourself through this pain for us, but for all of the great content you post in general. Keep going man! Edit:Holy Tamatoa that's a lot of likes, thanks guys!
Minor defense for Sing 1: They do a clever joke of the chameleon secretary having a glass eye, which makes it look like her eyes look in different directions like a real chameleon does...and that's really all.
It sucks that they never take full advantage of the whole “villain adopting daughters” thing. I always thought a fun sequel would be like him basically teaching the GORLS how to be super villains, each could have a specific interest (gadgets, strategy, etc) and have one want to be good or a hero or something. But no we gotta have minion shenanigans, pointless romance subplots, and a retconned brother lol
Ugh, the "villain adopting daughters" thing is genuinely one of my favorite aspects about Despicable Me. It was just so... sweet, and I wish it was utilized more.
Yeah, I know Gru isn’t really as big on the “villain” thing anymore by the end, but I totally wish the second movie had the GORLS get to like try out his cool gadgets and try to help him in whatever new outlet he picked up
The Lorax could’ve had _such_ a huge impact had they kept the original premise of the book. Biggering is an absolute BANGER that DESERVED to be in the movie. But I guess it hit too close to home and they had to go more comedic for the kids.
I heard somewhere that advertisement partners actually requested that the song be cut because it spoke down on their practices and companies, so there's that. We live in a dystopian future istg.
It’s a real tragedy that they sanitised the whole book in the name of corporate greed and a happy ending so kids don’t get scared at the fact that the environment is being killed by corporate leaders that you could never know. I highly recommend you check out the video made by the sin squad on biggering
The problem with the 2012 version for me, is that it never took anything from the 1972 cartoon special. The Once-ler, while being faceless in the special, is far more aware of his actions, while not doing anything about it.
May God bless you and your family and help you Give your life to Jesus Christ and repent. I pray that God will lead on the path to Jesus Christ and send the Holy Spirit to be your helper. I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus Christ I pray Amen! Jesus Christ loves you. Give your life to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness for ALL OF YOUR SINS. Even the ones committed in the past and repent. He’s coming soon. Please pray and repent.gdff
Comparing the DM2 and DM3 reviews made me realize that 2 really is the better film solely because of El Macho and the plot being relatively more interesting. Sure DM3 shafted the Minions but I forgot how generic and boring the plot really was. Stan El Macho Supremacy
The thing that Illumination does consistently well across all their movies is make them good as far as the animation itself goes. Every movie they've made is visually great. It just sucks that the stories themselves tend to be lackluster.
I agree. While I don't hate Illumination like most people do, I feel that most of their films feel very basic when it comes to the stories of those films, but there are exceptions, like Despicable Me, Sing 2 and Super Mario Bros.
And it’s clear they’re just trying to target child audiences. Which means they’re not going to be history-making cinema experiences. My little sister watched a lot of these “awful” movies and had a good time. They suck watching them as adults, but he’s really being a bit overcritical here.
@@GabbyJFS_02bruh. Megamind, Shrek, wall•e, toy story, ratatouille, Incredibles, Mulan and the prince of Egipt are movies Geared towards kids and they still have emotional resolve and character arcs, and a great plot that doesnt happen in illumination movies. And the ones i listed, are far more enjoyable. Show your sister actual cinema and stop trying to make a point that doesnt have feet to stand on.
I remember going to see Despicable Me in theaters with my parents, who both dislike modern animated films. We ended up leaving the theater completely blown away with how good it was, which was shocking to me. To make things better, there was a full moon that night, which led to many jokes on the drive home.
Yeah, my dad who really hates Disney movies like Frozen or Encantó REALLY loves DM1, he Always laughs at It, as he Is a classic Mario gamer from the NES and a watcher for the Classic Mario Animated Show as a kid (not sure if he watched the super show or The SM3 show) im sure my dad will love the new movie, altough he break apart from the franchise cuz you know, people grows and they start to like other things, so im kinda sure he will doesnt understand modern mario references or things in The movie. But oh boy if theres Classic Mario references he will lose his mind
May God bless you and your family and help you Give your life to Jesus Christ and repent. I pray that God will lead on the path to Jesus Christ and send the Holy Spirit to be your helper. I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus Christ I pray Amen! Jesus Christ loves you. Give your life to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness for ALL OF YOUR SINS. Even the ones committed in the past and repent. He’s coming soon. Please pray and repent.
Nefario probably pulled Gru’s childhood fart gun out of storage when he thought he was asked. Yes I know I am going to bat for Minions 2 I didn’t realize at first but that’s where we are now
I like how you put meme sound effects to transition between different topics it's always fun to pause it and try to figure out what movie or topic represents the meme
Tbh, if they took "Sing", and entirely changed the whole premise of the movie to just be the story of Taron's gorilla character, I'd probably enjoy the movie much more. Out of all the characters and their stories, his was the only one that made me somewhat invested. (and also cause it was surprisingly unexpected, and felt like the least tropey out of all the character stories in the movie) Any time the movie would move to showcase what's happening with other characters, I always went like "Okay, but please go back to the gorilla guy soon".
May God bless you and your family and help you Give your life to Jesus Christ and repent. I pray that God will lead on the path to Jesus Christ and send the Holy Spirit to be your helper. I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus Christ I pray Amen! Jesus Christ loves you. Give your life to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness for ALL OF YOUR SINS. Even the ones committed in the past and repent. He’s coming soon. Please pray and repent.
@@angelemeana2754 Wow I didn't know spammers in the replies could get more annoying than linking to a totally unrelated video for no reason but here we are
Fun Fact: In the original draft for Despicable Me, there were only five minions, each with a different personality. But later, they changed it so there were tons of them that all had the same personality to make it more comedic.
That makes sense, since it's just the three to the mall, and the two who hang out with Gru and the kids getting attention, and they do have some personality to them.
There were tons of minions in the first movie, but when I think about it, only five of them were really focused on. Same could be said for the three minions that received most of the focus for their own movie, Minions.
Honestly, I'm glad Biggering was mentioned in this video because that song fucking slaps and is one of the best villain songs out there. Too bad Illumination realized it was basically calling them out, along with other large corporations. It really would've been the best part of the movie had they kept it in
Ever since Russell Brand’s sexual allegations have come out, it brought me back to Schaffrillas’ rant on Hop, especially on the character of EB. It’s scary how well that rant has aged, and how hard it is to look at EB with Russell Brand’s controversy, especially the part where he sniffs James Marsden’s sister’s hair. I guess it’s definitely going to make Hop’s reputation even worse now.
@@michaelmcdoesntexist8350 tdlr? I don’t want to go into details but if you’re brave enough to look into the details of Russell Brand’s history of grooming minors, either watch a video or read an article related to the subject.
I 110% believe the only reason this movie was made at all is because he was mildly popular at the time because he was with Katy Perry and people wanted to see what crazy and wacky movies her husband would make. Hop truly feels like a stoner movie.
Me and my friend actually had a long conversation today about the implications of the Lorax. At the end we came to these conclusions: 1. O'Hare controls a city state and is actually doing the best thing for his people despite the moral questions having to do with it. 2. Thneedvile actually is full of a type of gas as opposed to air, as the air in the bottles comes blowing out because of pressure OUTSIDE the bottle rather than inside. And 3. The Onceler was the poorest in his family, and was the literal anti prodigal son. This is shown by his horse and wagon compared with his families super camper. There was more, but this was the best out of the stuff we dreamed up.
And the second Death Star blowing up was actually a top secret plot to launch Palpatine's soul all the way across the galaxy to land on the secret Sith planet, which is how he got there in Rise of Skywalker. Plus, the sheer magnitude of all that Death Star kinetic energy was enough to power the entire armada for years! Palpatine really is a genius!
Fun fact: "thneed ville also had a alternative version that went unused, that described the place like an actual dystopia that they ignorantly pretende isn't terrible, unlike the final product that gives the place a positive outlook and makes there change in the end make no sense, it also foreshadows the oncler better then the granny just randomly knowing he existed
based on this knowledge, when can we expect an entire community of The Lorax Beta fans to emerge? because this reads exactly like the development story behind Half-Life 2's Beta stages lol
The eleven-minute section of this video about Hop was genuinely haunting, my fucking god it has caused me immeasurable, indescribable dread that I'm absolutely certain will last me the rest of my life. The way you described its immense flaws, the build-up with the Grinch, the sound choices, everything paints the picture of this Lovecraftian abomination that should never have been allowed life
Based on your description of Hop (2011), it sounds like less of a movie that's supposed to have a happy ending, and more like a 1984 or Animal Farm-style film, warning about giving someone (the dad) too much power, and oppressing the working class. It's an absolute masterpiece when it comes to creating anger in the audience. Edit: Looking at the analysis of The Lorax, I think that Illumination's whole thing is making dystopian films. They're so good at it, and have produced the desired effect based on Schaff's reaction.
@@elder-woodsilverstein7716 what, and put the tome back on the pedestal it was found upon? I had not enough energy for that, and what if another was to find it?
I love how Despicable Me 3’s ending is actually a huge event in its own universe, but it’s such a ridiculous franchise that no one noticed the Minions even abandoned Gru again.
I remember putting on Minions for my four year old niece, neither of us ever saw it before, we get like thirty minutes in and she asked "Uncle Lu can you please turn this off I'm bored" I was so relieved
42:29 to 51:57 He talked about how horrible Hop was for 9 minutes and 28 seconds. That's how you know he genuinely hates this movie from the deepest depths of his heart.
So fun fact, my mother really likes illumination movies, like, she REALLY likes everything they put out, she loves the minions like any Facebook Mom does, takes us to watch every single movie that has been released, and when I was a kid she bought the DvDs so we could watch it again (even though I've always found them boring) However TO THIS DAY she refuses to watch "The Grinch", she saw the trailer, and convinced herself to NOT watch it, despite it having an actor she liked as the main character, and being centered around her favorite holiday, and an iconic character she also likes. I think THAT says enough about the movie's quality
Personally I think Despicable me 3 could've actually been a good movie if Drew was the villain. Maybe Gru taught him how to be a villain, and the two of the, started scheming a whole bunch of evil plans behind Lucy's back. Then, Drew does something truly evil that puts Gru's family in danger, and Gru realizes the reason why he stopped being a villain and fights back against his brother, showing that your biological family isn't necesarilly as good as found family. Gru already has has troubles with his biological mother in the past and this would've been an interesting development of the story. Instead we got cheese, unicorns, 80s references, and a jail scene. whooooo so fun
I somehow think Despicable Me 3 did a better Child Actor turned Super Villain kind of villain better than Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers. At least Balthazar Brat wasn't based off of an irl child star and wasn't a complete scumbag like Peter Pan
As a latino, when Schaff started to talk about the iffy racial implications of Carlos' mistreatment, I burst out laughing. It was hilarious, honestly But to add another nail on Hop's coffin: The movie gets even worse at the end when EB says he'll be the easter bunny, and his dad is like "But son, what about your dream?" and EB goes something like "I'm still gonna be a drummer. But I'll also be the easter bunny". So the last 80 minutes of my life have been pointless since all EB needed to learn to solve the conflict was the amazing superpower of *time management* and the fact the entire movie wouldn't have happened had he put 2 and 2 together before or even during his conversation with his dad.
@@TheDarkLord648because kids like bad movies if you watch sharktale as a kid you will like it but then watch it again as an adult and the only thing that will make you laugh in it that you will remember that that movie was nominated for an oscar
So, I worked in the electronics department of Walmart some time ago. Back then (not sure if it's the same now), they played some sort of looping programs which changed every month on the televisions there. For some reason, for a brief period of time they decided to play a movie for the month instead of the typical advertising stuff. -A- movie. A single movie. On loop. Constantly. For a full month. The first movie they chose was The Lorax. What followed can only be described as cruel and unusual punishment. Every day I walked into work, The Lorax would be there. 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, the Lorax nestled itself into the deepest recesses of my mind. Every scene, every song, every frame, was branded into my memory. It haunted my nightmares. I would often find myself unconsciously humming How Bad Can I Be. Even now, almost 10 years later, it haunts me. I live a good Christian life because if Hell exists, I know in my heart what my eternal punishment will be. It will simply be that month, replayed until the end of time. I will never forgive Walmart for this.
to both of you, the former especially, it might help to listen to the cut track biggering. it might give some glimmer of hope I guess here's the link th-cam.com/video/8M3hmhO6gys/w-d-xo.html
I actually think that the basis of this interpretation of The Grinch is an interesting spin on the character: of placing the whole idea of "the mean old Grinch" in his assumptions of how people perceive him and having his change of heart be instead a change in perception in realizing that these people actually want to get to know him. If they did away with the pointless side plots and actually put a bit of passion into the execution, I really think they might have done something with it.
I couldn't agree more. Illumination's Grinch came across as hating people more than he hated Christmas, which is totally understandable. As a hardcore introvert, 90% of his grouchy/mean moments struck me as either relatable or cathartic. I think what The Grinch really needed was a more competent team of writers. Fuck that remix of "You're a Mean One, Mister Grinch", though. It was almost as bad as Fallout Boy's cover of the Ghostbusters Theme.
@@bismuth7398 they probably saw that people pointed out that that song is technically a diss track and we’re like “hey that kinda sounds like modern audience stuff, LET’S GO APPEAL TO THOSE GUYS TO SUCK ALL THE MONEY OUT OF THEIR POCKETS!!!”
@@bismuth7398 The Jim Carrey movie did a similar thing, where the Grinch was a miserable asshole who acted that way to hide his severe depression and fear of rejection. Carrey Grinch's quotes are all over Tumblr for good reason. (Edited because the rest of the post came out a bit too uncomfortable and personal for a funny video mocking a company's bad movies)
@@magicalminachan "...manic, uncontrollable mood swingy aspect of depression..." As someone who actually has depression, I have no clue WTF you're talking about. And considering how Jim Carrey's Grinch behaves, I find that low-key offensive. EDIT: It would make sense if we're specifically talking about Bipolar Depression.
@@coachcherokee1488 To be fair, it is. Vaguely entertaining, tons of mostly meaningless references to the subject matter, the pacing is breakneck, there isn't a lot of character. Like Schaffrillas said, a solid C+. Although, the songs in SMB are a lot worse, and some of it doesn't make sense at all.
@@isavenewspapers8890 The Mario movie didn't seem egregiously awful or anything (it was just not all that good), but the way in which Schaffrillas talks about movies in the middle and bottom thirds of this list makes me think the Mario Movie would be well in the upper half.
Fun fact: Vector from the movie helped me on a physics test. The question was What are the two components of a vector And I immediantly thought of Direction and magnitude instantly from the movie despite not having learned this from the lessons.
Hop was the only movie by Illumination that I haven't heard of. The experience I had at the ending of this ranking was like coming across a hidden Lovecraftian tome. Where it's horrors consumed my soul.
I heard of it but never knew how bad it actually was. I had a "friend" (not really) in primary school who tried to get me to watch it in theaters. I refused. And keep in mind that same "friend" made me watch Turbo three times in a row, binge literally every single Air Buddies movie, binge every Alpha and Omega movie, and forced me to play Madagascar Kart (terrible Shovelware Mario Kart clone) on Wii for 4 hours straight. That kid might have had the worst taste in games/movies I've ever seen. It borders on parody.
Lorax character logic: If (Son==Glowing): Do Nothing, he's fine. If (Son==Glowing) and (Trees==Chopped down) and (Movie==Almost over): Son is not fine, therefore tree must grow.
I have terrible memories associated with Hop even though I never saw it. My maternal grandmother made it obvious that my mother was her least favorite child, and that disdain led to my mom's only child (me) being the least favorite grandchild by association. One time for Christmas, my grandmother gave me a DVD sleeve containing the bonus disk for Hop (back when DVDs were the primary way to watch movies at home, they would often come with two disks with one containing the movie and the other containing extra content related to the movie). She didn't even give me the box the DVDs came in. The actual movie disk and box went to her only grandson who was her golden child of the next generation during the Easter season. All the other grandchildren got a bunch of things, but the only thing I got was a bonus disc for a movie I never saw. At least it's clear I wasn't missing out on a good movie, so thank you Schaff for making a bad memory a little less bad.
Your grandmothers sounds a lot like mine She thinks of me as the “golden grandchild”… and I don’t even LIKE being the “golden grandchild” while she treats my younger sister like SHIT
reminds me of a family christmas on my moms side. i feel you, ofc that stuff doesn't really ~matter~ but when you're a kid it stings. my only vindication was, as an adult, hearing my parents admit they were totally furious that evening about the ordeal. i had never said anything out of politeness but it was nice to hear LOL.
There is one positive that came out of hop. It made James Marsden’s performance in the Sonic the Hedgehog movies better since he already had experience interacting with cgi character.
I always thought it was Dr. Nefario who created the minions, given that he always knows everything about them and always hangs out with them. He even kills some of them as if he can make them again.
Maybe that’s what there actual origins were intended to be but then the creators of the minion movie were like “we can’t make a movie outta that, let alone a money sucking one that appeals to two year olds!”
Actually Dr Nefario is Han solo: 1)Both did the same jobs when young and old. 2)Both interact with species that dont speak english. 3)Both frozen in Carbonite (at one point). 4)Both change allegiances at one point and then revert back.
in original canon, Gru (and maybe Nefario I'm not sure) created the minions for his own deeds. they were not some old-as-time organism, they were just lab grown and created. and my favorite part is the fact that Gru is a genuinely good boss to them, despite literally creating and owning them
I remember being forced to watch the Lorax in high school and given assignments basically asking what the messages of the movie were. My teacher did not care to hear how this movie actually butchers the story’s original message and how bad it is and it frustrated me be forced to regurgitate what the teacher wanted to hear and not the truth
May God bless you and your family and help you Give your life to Jesus Christ and repent. I pray that God will lead on the path to Jesus Christ and send the Holy Spirit to be your helper. I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus Christ I pray Amen! Jesus Christ loves you. Give your life to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness for ALL OF YOUR SINS. Even the ones committed in the past and repent. He’s coming soon. Please pray and repent.tfs
What makes me sad is that the Lorax had a ton of potential to be a good movie. There were some super creative ideas in there. You got a town that has so much air pollution that people need to buy purified air in bottles in order to live, a corporation that monitors everyone and prohibits the mere mention of trees because it might hurt their buisness, and a complex character who starts off just wanting his product to succeed and to make his small buisness grow only to destroy everything in his path and not realize the damage he's caused until it's far too late. It could have been incredible, but ironically, it fell to it's own corporate greed just like the Onceler.
Also the fact that Biggering could be a good foil to How Bad Can I Be. We could start with Onceler doubting what he's doing a little bit to outright denial. This would've been a great character study for the Onceler in a musical format
The way he explains each film that has a mario reference leading up to the mario movie was actually intense, I was at the edge of my seat Edit: woa i'm fam
My theory for how Vector's age works is that in a kerfuffle of some sort (possibly related to his dad's business at the Bank Of Evil) he was cryogenically frozen and spent 2-3 decades in it until he was defrosted and got to live out the rest of his life.
51:22 Fun fact, Hank Azaria was both Gargamel in the Smurfs movie and the voice of Carlos in Hop. So not only is Gargamel actually in Hop, he's also the most sympathetic character.
@@archivist_13 it's a reference to the "singing killed my grandma" line on the Trolls movie, it's such a horrible attempt at a sad scene that it became a meme
Here are the timestamps for the video: 0:00 - Intro 1:08 - Despicable Me 1 6:18 - Sing 2 9:29 - Despicable Me 2: Electric Boogaloo 11:54 - Sing 14:32 - Minions: The Rise of Gru (SUPER EPIC MOVIE) 18:17 - Despicable M3 21:41 - Squarespace Sponsor 23:00 - The Secret Life of Pets 27:16 - The Lorax 32:22 - Minions 34:34 - Cars 2 Extra Rant Time! 35:43 - The Secret Life of Pets: The Second 37:43 - The Grinch 42:29 - Hop 51:57 - Conclusion 53:40 - The Mario Movie is Upon Us... 57:06 - Outro
This is a legitimate story. Every single year in school before Easter, the teacher would show Hop, and I am not joking. Everyone else loved Hop, and I remember absolutely hating it so much, that in 4th grade, I had enough of watching it every single year, so when the teacher announced we were watching Hop, I threw a chair and was sent home. It was truly worth it
So I was watching an interview with trey Parker about despicable me 3, and he looked like he didn’t want to be there, and the only reason he was doing it was because his daughter liked minions. He hates the minions as much as we do.
Sing 2 getting 2nd place is what I needed to see to validate my shock and awe that it actually worked way better as a movie than I could have ever imagined going in. It certainly has a few leaps in logic, but every plotline is sound and the "wanted by the mafia" subversion really had me!
I want to point out that Mike sang "My Way" by Paul Anka nearing the end of Sing, which is a song about a man who's recognized that he's dying soon and wants to go out on his own accord. They foreshadowed his death.
truly poetic, good form.
Canon
i can't believe seth mcfarlane is capable of such dramatic tragedy
Thank you Saul
There's also an Urban Legend about people singing My Way and dying. This actually happened in the Philippines where people were fighting so much so that they can sing My Way in a karaoke and they ended up killing each other.
Fun fact: I passed a physics test by one point in 10th grade. One of the questions I got right was a question on the difference between a vector and a scalar. I remembered the definition of a vector from the "VECTOR! Committing crimes with both direction AND MAGNUTUDE! Oh yeah" quote. I literally passed a test solely because of Vector
Classic Vector W
That’s why vector is love, vector is life
Vector literally helped Jesus Christ himself pass an exam
see? even jesus loves vector!
The power of the based Vector
The Lorax is such a significant part of all fandom history. The fact that people were so desperate to ship the once-ler with someone that they literally split him in two to pair him with himself is something that needs to be reflected upon. We did this, and we need to stop pretending like it didn’t happen.
"Selfcest" is the most horrifying thing we, as humans created
But I'm too scared to face the reality of its existence 😖
i still don't know why the onceler spawning the tumblr sexyman trope was the only good thing that this movie did, why are we doing this to ourselves
Who is we? You speaking French? I didn't do shit.
I still like pretending it never happened
“The way they talk about sing, you’d think it killed their grandma”
This joke is so under appreciated. It was truly beautiful.
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@@1unar_eclipseThanks!
Sing 2 also rip-offs Coco from Pixar.
@@IndriidaeNT Epic trolling.
@@IndriidaeNT uh, how?
Fun story:
While watching Sing 2 with my younger cousins, I asked myself "Hey, where's the mouse from the first one?" I laid down on the couch and put my hand slightly under it, at which point I felt a small fuzzy object that I assumed was a cat toy. When I pulled the object out, however, I found that it was indeed not a cat toy but rather the body of a dead mouse. That gave me all the answers I needed to my previous question.
dude that answer was sent from god
bro got a whole pocket dimension on his couch
He sing "My Way" by Frank Sinatra and, there's this superstition in our country that the song is cursed and people who sang "My Way" in a karaoke or bar, they'll die. Super bizarre stuff I know.
@@lckyminer_2256 Hey, look at Perfect Cell.
@@lckyminer_2256 The plot thickens...!
The Lorax is such a significant part of all fandom history. The fact that people were so desperate to ship the once-ler with someone that they literally split him in two to pair him with himself is something that needs to be reflected upon. We did this, and we need to stop pretending like it didn’t happen. right
Atleast the once-ler got split in half!
WE GOT PEOPLE SHIPPING THIS MOLDY GUMMY BEAR WITH HIS FUCKING PTSD FOR CHRIST SAKE
@@PeppermintSpikes, excuse me, who the fuck are you talking about-
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I still can't believe he lost the first round of the Tumblr Sexyman competition 😭
@@glasscardproductions4736 I think Happy Tree Friends
I'm genuinely surprised that you never talked about how much the first Despicable Me movie's soundtrack SLAPS in every direction and magnitude. It's such an underrated aspect of the movie and is honestly one of the very few that I'd unironically listen to once in a while just because It's that good. Especially the ending song by Robin Thicke out of all people.
I'm probably too confident in saying this, but Despicable Me has the best OST out of the entire studio, and probably one of the best of all time, I will die on this hill. (you know what? change my mind, the franchise as a whole has a goated OST collection)
pharell deserves more credit bc he shaped the identity of the despicable me movies 🙏🙏
Shame we never got Biggering on the big screen
FACTS, I absolutely love the soundtrack for that movie. Definitely Pharell's best work
@@DrinzenDrawz feel like you’re underestimating Pharrell here, unless you only mean his work as a movie soundtrack producer. At one point the man was producing over half of the greatest hits in America.
"...Do I think the once-ler is sexy?"
If he was still around, that sentence would kill Dr. Seuss instantly
Cornball
bruh
@@not_a_cheterhe’s not wrong
@@user-BadUsername yeah
Real lmao
It's genuinely fascinating the way I forgot literally every single detail about Despicable Me 3, including its existence, but slowly it all came back to me as its review came on
At least with Kung Fu Panda 3 despite being the weakest of the not-so-called-trilogy anymore, was *far* more impactful and memorable than DM3.
The only thing I can remember from DM3 is that Trey Parker is in it. Him suddenly being in any production outside of ones where he has full involvement and creative control is surreal. Wonder if SP ever made fun of an Illumination movie; can't recall that it has happened yet.
Same.
I always remembered Bratt tho because Trey Parker.
I'm sure I've watched Sing at some point, but I genuinely can't remember a single moment of it.
@@liamphibia spoilers for KFP 3
When his dad said "I don't want to lose you again!" Only for Po to respond with "you already did" was probably the hardest hit thrown in the whole trilogy, and I doubt the 4th one will top that line.
The Vector grimwalker theory is actually brilliant, because it also explains how Vector is such a perfect specimen, since he is the culmination of hundreds, possibly thousands of failed Vectors
this vector had gone in the right direction after the magnitude of failures
Vector is Doomsday?
the idea of vector clones is unironically more entertaining to me than the clone wars. Instead of many clones with the same core structure and fighting for the same purpose, we have many vectors with different personalities, each being less perfect than the last. one thing they all have in common is that they commit crimes with DIRECTION and MAGNITUDE. OH YEAH
Wait hang on a second. If Vector is a clone, then does this mean we see another version of him rise up in the next movie? Maybe it's like an army of Vectors all facing off against Gru?
Hunter isn’t the only one. So the head of the evil bank is the Illumination equivalent to Emperor Belos?
When I saw El Macho in Despicable Me 2, and they gave him this overly detailed backstory, I said to myself "okay, that's a red herring. No way they're not bad at storytelling that they'd reveal the big bad of mystery in the first minute of the investigation starting."
And then they did.
I always thought the film could have been more clever if all of the people at the strip mall were retired villains. Like the barber would be "The Eagle" or something. And they all decided to retire after finding new purposes like Gru. And the real villain was the secret agency that was trying to steal all their tech because the guy in charge was a villain himself.
The movie had a lot going for it to be good, and then it didn't. It just burned, haaaaard.
holy shit you actually did it, you wrote a better Despicable Me sequel than Illumination did XD
El macho is still pretty coolio tho
what happened to him after he was defeated
Imagine if it was a murder mystery where the main villain (el macho in this case) had killed (albeit in funny pg ways) a lot of other villains and they had to figure out the villain murders. Maybe they did this plot already in a different movie but imagine the potential of it coming from despicable me
It delt like it was going that way. Maybe in an older draft of the script.
My favorite thing about Sing is that it’s probably the only children’s movie I’ve seen whose theme is “crime=good.”
The Minions movies fit that label a lot better than the Sing movies
Based.
40:30 the other grinches would allow the baby reindeer to reunite with its family...by forcing the family to pull the sleigh as well
😂 so true
It's literally the chicken PETA joke lmao
GENIUS
Omg yes 😭
Literally my thoughts exactly lol
Schaff, if you are disappointed on how little of a soul sucking experience this ranking was. Remember that we are still waiting for that Artemis Fowl review. This will surely cheer you up.
Don’t forget… a full… in depth… film analysis on Why Dear Evan Hansen is the Worst Movie Musical of all time
Ah yes. the elusive -0/10.
Can he rank the Kirby final bosses next?
He's has 1.5 million subscribers currently. Maybe for the 2 million subscriber special, he'll finally review it.
Percy Jackson movie
Despicable Me was actually heartwarming, sometimes I forget that because of the saturation of minions in every facet of media and culture.
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@@sophiebubbles07 May God bless you and your family and help you Give your life to Jesus Christ and repent. I pray that God will lead on the path to Jesus Christ and send the Holy Spirit to be your helper. I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus Christ I pray Amen! Jesus Christ loves you. Give your life to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness for ALL OF YOUR SINS. Even the ones committed in the past and repent. He’s coming soon. Please pray and repent.
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I’ve always had pretty low standards for films as a kid, and even as an adult. I typically enjoy whatever you put in front of me. But I distinctly remember watching Hop as a kid and realizing for the first time that movies can, in fact, be bad.
Same, until I watched that Horrible Histories movie. Godawful film.
@@ravenscarlettanis13 Eh, i liked it, but it wasn’t near as good as the TV series or books.
@@worthybutter2004nothing will ever be as good as the books
@@GalvyTheTom Indeed!
Eh, I'm not hard to please either and I also hate this freakin movie!
I mean, worse flicks came out that year(like Green Lantern and the Smurfs movie) but at least I found some enjoyment in them. Hop just annoyed me at my core!
The impact that vector had on me is truly astounding. I'm an engineering student in university and of course, in physics, we learn about vectors and how THEY HAVE DIRECTION AND MAGNITUDE. I literally cannot forget it just because of Despicable Me.
So glad Vector, the chad himself, inspired you to take up a career in Engineering. Best of luck to you! I'm sure you'll go far in life.
I’ll never forget how Hop did a cross promotion with Doodle Jump where you could play as EB if you named yourself “Hop”. Absolutely epic.
omg i remember this!!!
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Oh no
HOP may have been a bad movie, but that was what I call an amazing promotion.
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"Gru can't long to be a Bad Guy again. We can't have the main character of a franchise entitled *DESPICABLE* *ME!!!* be interested in Villainy anymore!"
I can not express how happy I was to hear you say that. Seriously, I feel like by the time 3 came out, the writers completely forgot what the word Despicable meant, and saw this as just another kiddy franchise.
Here in Latin America the movies are called "My favorite villain"
This was my reaction to schaff describing both "secret life of pets" because those movies don't even get enough hate tbh.
@@Myhomeisacaveicl I enjoyed the first one
Times the Liar Revealed Cliche is used in Illumination movies:
Despicable Me (2010): It happens when Gru adopts Anges, Edith and Margo and initially lies about the supervillain he secretly is until they find out on their own later in the movie.
Hop (2011): Mr. Bunny learns from Carlos his son E.B. 's intentions to run away and complete his dream of being a rock music drummer not the easter bunny and sends the pink berets to Los Angeles to find him and bring him home. Later when E.B. meets Fred O’ Hare and the latter initially wants nothing to do with him; he fakes being injured so the latter would let him stay but E.B. fails to keep the lie forever because he soon sneaks out of the garage and back into the house and makes a mess showing that he is perfectly fine so Fred tried to dump him back into the wild as payback for it until E.B. lying again that he was the Easter Bunny convinced Fred to let him stay but the Pink Berets’ presence following the Hasselof audition causes him to admit the truth behind running away and Mr. Bunny his dad being the real Easter Bunny to Fred but Fred accepts it as at this point accepted E.B. as his friend. It happens briefly in the scene where E.B. fakes his death in the third act.
The Lorax (2012), Aloysius O’ Hare the main villain uses a big one where he hides the destruction caused by the Once-Ler and his family from the residents of Thneedville and the makes up the fact that trees are filthy and dangerous and should be avoided and not planted at all costs so they could keep buying his fake purified air so the townsfolk won’t get interested in nature again and plant trees that will turn Carbon Dioxide into Oxygen and therefore no one will buy his purified air anymore, shutting down his business, but Ted soon learns about it when he visits the Once-Ler and soon reveals it to the townsfolk and they turn on and exile O’Hare and let the truffula tree be planted and respect animals, plants and nature once more and have carbon dioxide be turned into oxygen by the plants once more. In the Once-Ler’s flashbacks a brief one happens where after The Lorax and animals save the Once-Ler and he questions how his bed got in the water the Lorax reluctantly admits the truth behind putting his bed in the water though they saved him only due to Pipsqueak’s presence before the Once-Ler makes his promise not to cut down any more trees. Another happens were when the Once-Ler initially keeps his promise and has him and his family make the thneeds by harvesting the tufts without killing the trees and harming the environment, his greedy and lazy family manipulate him into cutting down the trees to speed up its production and become the egocentric greedy businessman he is and lie that his actions will cause no consequences for the environment and keep the Lorax away to prevent him from snapping him out of the manipulations and see the damage he and his family are causing and by the time the Once-Ler does it is too late, and his mom throws him away like garbage and makes Bret his new son before she and the rest of the family leave with all the money and the Once-Ler having a grudge and hostility towards his family especially his mom ever since for manipulating him and for destroying the forest and the animals’ home all for the promised money and fame.
Despicable Me 2 (2013): None are used.
Minions (2015): None are used.
The Secret Life of Pets (2016), none are used though there is a third-act misunderstanding and plot-mandated friendship failure between Duke and Max where after they arrive at Duke’s old owners’ home so Duke would get to reunite with and live with his old owner and give Max his position as Katy’s best pet back, they discover that he died of old age and a new family with a pet cat moved in and though he initially refused to believe it Duke does and he stupidly assumes that Max knew the truth all along and had been trying to rid of him just so he could have Katy all to himself again and reprimands him for it before their e-encounter with SnowBall and the Flushed Pets, and in the climax the misunderstanding is cleared up and Duke reconciles with Max and the two live peacefully together with Katy again.
Sing (2016): Buster Moon uses a big one that becomes the plot device for the film, (Aside from Lance keeping his romance with Becky a secret from Ash and him cheating on her until the end and Johnny attending the singing competition behind his father, Big Daddy’s back the revelation causes Big Daddy to angrily disown Johnny until their reconciliation at the end and for Ash to break-up with Lance.) after he learns that Mrs. Crawley by accident had added zeros to the flyer for the singing competition and changed the 1,000 dollars to 100,000 dollars and scared to reveal the truth to the constants manages to lie about the prize money until he gains the real one with Nana Goodleman’s reluctant help, but by the end of the second act, the Bears and Mike end up learning the truth and when the other protagonists confront Buster for his lie it leads to Moon Theater’s destruction and Nana’s falling out with Buster and Judith and the bank repossessing the lot where the theater once stood, and Buster moving in with Eddie and cleaning cars in a car wash as a new job, it leaves everyone heroic BSoD (As it also cost Ash her boyfriend Lance and Johnny his father Big Daddy) until Buster watching Meena sing at the lot of the former encouraged him to have him and his troupe perform the singing competition without the prize money at the lot just for fun and behind Judith’s back but when she finds out she attempts to halt the show and send everyone away for trespassing on private property and call the police to have everyone arrested for it but this fails and Judith gets pricked by Ash’s quills during her performance of “Set It All Free” while Johnny and his father reconcile and Nana has a change of heart after secretly watching the show and reforms Judith and reposses the lot where the theater once stood and has it reopened with Nana and Buster as its managers.
Despicable Me 3 (2017): Gru has one with his brother Dru where he lies about getting the diamond from Baltzaar to have them serve as villains again but in reality did it to stop Baltzaar’s plans so he and Lucy would be rehired at the anti-villain league, and when the truth comes out it causes Dru to have a falling out with Gru and disown him as his brother, but the two manage to reconcile and alongside Lucy, the minions, Lucy, Anges and Edith and Margo defeat Baltzaar in the climax and stop his evil plans. Gru also has a brief one towards Gru and Lucy about never returning to villainy which he and the minions of course do and when Gru and Lucy find out they choose not to stop him but let him be the villain he wishes and follow Dru and Gru’s father’s legacy of being one anyway.
The Grinch (2018): The Grinch as one while disguising himself as Santa Claus and stealing the whos’ Christmas and pretending to be Santa to Cindy after she “catches” him, Cindy Lou Who towards her mother and brothers in regards to catching “Santa” when both truths are revealed they are forgiven for it though the Grinch really did the wrong thing though he redeems himself for it at the end, Cindy was just trying to help her mother via her wish to Santa.
The Secret Life of Pets 2 (2019): None aside from Max’s minor ones to Rooster.
@@carlososoriohernandez3979In Turkish it’s “Crazy Thief”.
So Hop is their second movie, which means they went from their best movie to their worst movie without any movies in between that's kind of impressive
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lemme fix that
The only other time this happened was Shrek 2 to Shark Tale
@@mangothedangofor schaff it would’ve been Prince of Egypt, And turbo
@@Durtle. The comment is about two consecutive films, and those two came over a decade apart
It proves that you shouldn’t always say second is the best
If I recall correctly, I read that the minions were originally designed to have a more monstrous appearance, but due to budget restrictions (Despicable Me did has a slightly lower budget than most other major films of the year), they made the minions much simpler, with assorted body types, eyes, and hair. Props to Illumination, because this worked, though it unfortunately set the trend of Illumination being able to put very little effort and still turn a profit.
You can thank them for all the minion clones that popped out of the abyss for years to come
@@pudd1ng_bunn182 Somehow, the Rabbids had the same "monstrous concept to simplified goofballs to pop culture reign of terror" before the Minions, but they burned out faster.
@@magicalminachan and made a surprisingly positive comeback with the Mario + Rabbids crossover. Meanwhile kids shows are pumping out gibberish speaking trios left and right. I can see where your coming from though.
@@pudd1ng_bunn182 Rabbids Go Home is supposed to be fun and unique as well, and I hope I can get a hold of it sometime.
I have a memory of Illumination that I'll never forget. When I was younger I went to a big girl scout sleepover event that took place inside a roller rink. Right before we went to sleep, they had us all vote on two movies we could watch. The first one was Inside Out, which is one of my favorite movies. After it was over, I was feeling pretty tired and decided to sleep when they played the second movie.
The second movie voted for was Minions.
And let me tell you, trying to fall asleep while listening to these yellow little bastards babble, the sound of their obnoxious voice echoing off the speakers and straight into my ears as I try to block off the sound with my pillow until I eventually pass out. Now that, THAT is a special kind of hell I will never forget.
I feel deeply sorry for the pain you must have endured
OMG I have a very similar memory, a girl scout sleepover at a roller rink, only the movie they chose to put on was 13 going on 30. I hate that movie to this day
I have something similar too. My younger siblings were doing a family night and I really wanted to watch Kiki’s Delivery Service or Emperors New Groove. but they wanted to watch Minions since Kiki seemed to girly for them especially for a guy and they never watched ENG. When they turned it on, I just watched Kiki on my phone and it was so annoying to listen to it while having Minion noises in the background.
We’re here for you if you vent about this traumatic experience. You have our sympathy
once when I was in elementary my tio wanted to spend some time with me, so him, his daughter, and I went to go watch despicable me 2. I remember just being completely stone faced and after it was over thinking "I don't like the minions anymore" lol
I love the theory that Hasselhoff doesn't actually know he's acting; every appearance he makes is just him, as himself, living his normal life
This implies he does have perfect control over his pecs and can squeeze them together hard enough to launch a crown at Mach 3 or something.
...Which to be fair is not something we can't disprove he's capable of.
The sad thing is, The Lorax could've been amazing if they took the themes of Biggering and made them the focus. Hell, they could've STILL included How Bad Can I Be if they just had it chronicle the very start of The Onceler's descent into prideful greed, then had Biggering come in after he's become a mastermind. It probably could've made it one of Illumination's best.
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@@angelemeana2754 go touch some grass, linda
@@angelemeana2754 which "soon"?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_and_claims_for_the_Second_Coming
@@angelemeana2754 so if he doesn't come soon, then what does that mean? People have been saying he's coming soon for hundreds of years lol
Rumour has it Illumination dropped Biggering because it gave them cold feet given their own rise to significance.
Well that and the movie had a shit ton of corporate sponsors they didn't want to piss off. That one's a fact.
This is gonna sound really weird, but my least favorite part of the minions movie was that it totally scrambled their lore. On the disc for Despicable Me 1 was a fun short where gru explains how he and dr. nefario created the minions, which was a great fit; like most of their inventions, the minions are helpful and useful, but also very obviously flawed. It made perfect thematic sense. Now, their lore is a bunch of nonsensical garbage that leads nowhere...
in minions, those are the original minions, but most of them were cloned
@@geggy310 bruh. Matpat said that
@@bigbang8739 person x said this so it cant be true
@@thescoundrel2 but quite literally copy paste from that vid
@@bigbang8739 i didnt see that video, but it’s the only way to make sense of this cash grab of a movie
The fact that Vector only got about 7 minutes of screen time is CRIMINAL! He's easily my favorite character in the movie. That character is actually genius
Favorite character in ALL OF IILLUMINATION
The biggest crime Vector ever committed
What? I could’ve sworn he was in the movie longer.
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Well, there's always that brand new short that just came out, recently...
The Grinch has always been one of the most interesting phenomenon with movies for me. Somehow two different people made Grinch movies and then had the exact opposite problem. Ron Howard’s Grinch has a really grimy Whoville and misses the point of the story by having the Whos antagonize The Grinch first, while Jim Carrey just absolutely kills in the title role. Like, legit, my family still watches The Jim Carrey Grinch to this day because of how memorable and iconic he is.
Illumination, on the other hand, manages to capture the spirit of Whoville being this wholesome and sweet Christmas town, but has the most milquetoast and uninteresting Grinch they could have made. Like, I seriously don’t know how they managed to make him such a boring character. You’d think the people behind Despicable Me would have at least gotten The Grinch right in making him a total jerk, but he’s not even really mean or cranky. They just make him… some guy, really. There’s nothing memorable about their Grinch movie at all.
Yeah I fell asleep in the theater when watching it and I only do that to movies that don't catch my attention
To be fair to the live action Grinch, the grimy vibes of Whoville were meant to paint the idea of a town that had forgotten about the spirit of Christmas and focused solely on the capitalism parts of it. That was always an underlying thing even in the books; while not outright stated the Grinch hated what he saw as excessive noise makers that'd be abandoned once they lost luster, a bunch of food for no other reason than to have food, and the fact he was just a prick who wanted peace of mind and wanted to hear the town cry for once.
In the movie they just dial that to an extreme: he lives in a landfill effectively full of that stuff. You could argue the backstory of the Grinch is a bit weak and I'd agree, but I'd say it manages to add onto the book in a unique way that still keeps the general message of "There's more to Christmas than meets the eye". I can get not liking the vibes of the movie and think it spits on the book - but it's a more faithful adaptation than whatever they fucking did to the Lorax or the Grinch by Illumiantion.
Like seriously - they really missed the point of the Grinch being the Grinch in the illumination movie. That's as crucial as the underlying message. The Grinch in that movie 'wants' Christmas but is literally too tsundere to get it normally. That's not at all what the Grinch was like at all.
Tldr: I recommend watching some deeper analysis of the adaptations the Live Action movie did, whether you hate the movie or not - there's some genuinely good ideas the guys had, and if you wanna see how that went all wrong- see the Cat in the Hat movie, which was made to try and emulate the Grinch.
And failed. Horribly.
Alternate theory...
Vector IS old, it's just that he managed to steal the elixor of life, keeping himself young.
The reason this didn't become the "crime of the century" was because he was still new to villainy and wanted to lay low.
Maybe it has a side effect where he becomes a full-on baby at times and he still hasn't gotten it sorted out yet, so he doesn't want anyone to know.
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We could just ask Illumination
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You should rank all Best picture winners of the 21st century. Mostly because I want to know how you feel about Gladiator.
Yes
I HAVE RIGHTS!
Oh my God is that the real Saul Goodman 😲
@Don't Read My Profile Photo shut up
I would like James to rank every best animated film nominee
The Lorax is my favorite movie here. Without it, I never would've thought of: "If the Lorax is armed, the trees cannot be harmed."
Without The Lorax we wouldn't have the legendary line "I am the Lorax and I speak for the trees, but for some f*ing reason, they speak Vietnamese."
@@lastchanc3starsi love that so much holy sh*t
BASED
Yes, but it also has, “I’M FRANKENSTEIN’S HEAD ON A SPIDER’D BODY”
“How ba-a-a-ad can I be.”
I love that since moana is in most if the stills schaff takes drom the movie fir his avatar, when he's yelling about something we can just see moana in the foreground with her hair blowing back. I love the implication that for the entirety of the recording process, schaff is just having a one sided conversation/rant at a random child who walked into his lair
Me: *enters dragons lair*
Dragon: *captures me*
5 hours later
Dragon: SO THEN THE RIGHTERS THREW HER ENTIRE CHARACTER ARCH IN THE GARBAGE FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF INSECURE SHOCK BAIT AND HAD HER-
Me: PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT BAD MOVIES TO ME I HAVEN’T SEEN MY FAMILY IN 5 HOURS!
The beginning of this text is practically unreadable for me.
I think Illumination should take a break from making sequels and films in the Despicable Me franchise to avoid milking that franchise to death (Similar to the Ice Age and Shrek and Toy Story franchises and The Good Dinosaur, Ice Age, Mr. Peabody and Sherman and Croods franchises also need a crossover all produced by Pixar (Formerly Blue Sky Studios) and DreamWorks Animation while all these other films and franchises are produced by those animation studios and Walt Disney Animation Studios, Illumination, Warner Animation Group, and Sony Pictures Animation.) after Despicable Me 4 and Minions: The Rise of Gru and produce more films and sequels in the Sing, Migration, The Secret Life of Pets and The Super Mario Bros. Movie franchises and more original movies and feature films including:
Sing 3 and Sing 4 the sequels to Sing 2 as well as spin-off films including one focusing on the Beetles (A Parody of the Beatles but with beetles instead of humans.) and Queen and Daft Panther (Parodying Queen and Daft Punk but with anthropomorphic animals instead of humans.), one focusing on Porsha Crystal, Clay Calloway and Nooshy (Related to The Penguins of Madagascar: The Movie and the Puss in Boots duology and Minions movies.), and Porsha and Nooshy getting married in a same sex romance and having northwestern wolf pup and Canada lynx kitten children to raise including a northwestern wolf pup son Luke Crystal for Porsha and Canada lynx kitten son Liam for Nooshy and Clay Calloway trying to reunite his old rock music band Unicorn 2 (Parodying U2) and one focusing on Johnny and Ash and the two getting married and having mountain gorilla and crested porcupette kids to raise, (Or Porsha, Johnny, Ash and Nooshy all getting their own love interests and new main characters to marry and have kids to raise with.) a superhero movie franchise with anthropomorphic animals instead of humans same for a science fiction film and a prequel to Sing 2 and midquel to Sing focusing on Porsha Crystal, Nooshy, Darius and Suki Lane and Jimmy Crystal in Crystal Entertainment or Ash, Meena and Johnny and Lance in college related to Monsters’ University, All Hail King Julien and the Minions movies (Minions and Minions: The Ride of Gru) and all introducing lots of new great characters. Or even a television series, Sing: The Series in 2D animation.
A Sing franchise crossover with The Bad Guys franchise and Zooptoia franchise (And maybe it's remakes and fanfiction sequel, Losses of Heroes, Zootopia 2.0 and Zooptoia: A City Full of Mystery and Romance might also do.) and Kung Fu Panda franchise and Cars franchise and Trolls and Elemental franchises if we're lucky might also do.
The Super Mario Bros. Movie 2 and 3 the sequels to The Super Mario Bros. Movie and introduce Wario and Waluigi the evil counterparts to Mario and Luigi and spin-offs focusing on Yoshi, Kirby, Princess Peach, Rosalina and Princess Daisy, Toad and Toadette and Donkey Kong and an adaptation of Donkey Kong: Frozen Country and adaptations of Super Mario 3D World, Super Mario Odyssey, The Legend of Zelda, Super Smash Bros. Ultimate and of course, Super Mario Wonder and Bowser’s Fury and create a Nintendo Cinematic Universe and have it also cross over with the Wreck-It-Ralph franchise, Sonic the Hedgehog franchise and Pac-Man franchise and Q’Bert franchise. They also deserve 2D animated series.
The Secret Life of Pets 2 and 4 the sequels to The Secret Life of Pets 2 and spin-off feature films focusing on some of the characters and a superhero pet and human film similar to the DC League of SuperPets same for a science fiction film and ones focusing on zoo animals and wild animals and crossovers with The Wild Robot, DC League of SuperPets, The Garfield Movie, The Peanuts Movie, And Tango Makes Three, Galapagos George, Astro the Steller Sea Lion, Open Season, Madagascar and Bolt, Inside Out, and Toy Story franchises will also do all of whom also introduce lots of new characters. It also deserves a 2D animated TV series.
Sequels to Migration like Migration 2 and Migration 3 and ones being crossovers with the Rio franchise and Finding Nemo franchise and new ones.
Minions 3 and Despicable Me 5 and Despicable Me franchise films and a superhero spin-off same for a science fiction film that cross over with the Frozen, Big Hero 6, Tangled, Moana, Incredibles, Shrek, Megamind, Monsters Vs. Aliens, Disney Princesses, Hotel Transylvania, Onward, Soul, Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, Spider-Verse trilogy, Captain UnderPants, Coco and Enchanto franchises.
Lots of other original movies and franchises to be produced by Illumination aside from Big Tree. They also deserve 2D animated series.
Fun fact: Illumination actually wanted Benedict Cumberbatch to use his natural British accent for the role of the Grinch, but he thought that using a voice like that would make him seem out-of-place compared to the Whos of Whoville, who all use American accents.
And of course, rather than sitting him down and explaining to him that the Grinch is _supposed_ to be an outsider who doesn't fit in, and that him being the only one with a different accent would actually fit the story and the character's relation to the Whos of Whoville perfectly... Illumination apparently just went "yUp, mAkEs ToTaL sEnSe" and agreed to him using the somewhat-nasally, American-accented, not-at-all-sinister voice he uses in the final movie.
They did a similar thing with Fate:The Winx Saga. Abigail Coven’s Bloom, outsider protagonist and only fairy from Earth, has an American accent, while the rest of the cast is British.
And if Fate: The Winx Saga does something better than you, you’ve screwed up.
So all of this would’ve been avoided if Benedict Cumberbatch understood the character of the Grinch a little better?
@@BucioTheZenith i think it was both his mistake for not understanding the character and Illumination mistake for "forgetting" this fact.
I say forgetting in quotes beacuse they probably didn't even care about the orignal story
I thought Benedict Cumberbatch was really great as the Grinch.
Come on Benedict, people would have *loved* your intimidating voice for the Grinch!
The amount of terror I felt when we reached the final entry on this list, but still had 15 minutes of the video left, cannot be overstated.
I love this.
I know, I mean, I predicted it probably was going to be Hop when the video started, but after seeing talk about The Secret Life of Pets 2 and their adaptation of The Grinch, my brain could not comprehend a worse movie, that I was terrified to find out what it was. And then when he said that he noticed a unfortunate trend in the animation industry, and then the underwear water music played, and the shot of the photo realistic Mario gave so chills. I mean I suppose both weren't the worst thing ever, they were just weirdly effective
I just reached there and now I’m worried
Update: Jesus Christ he really hated that movie, also what the fuck was that ending
The Lorax movie was such a tragedy that it devolved to a masterpiece of comedy, I love it so much
Can he rank the Kirby final bosses next?
I adore the lorax and it's only partially ironic
Unironically
@@jackiecozzie4803 same
+and internet culture cuz well... y'know, the onceler.
It’s funny how there are two movies where the protagonist is trying to grow a plant and likes a girl named Audrey, and one of them is my favorite movie-musical, and the other one…is Illumination’s The Lorax.
Mean Green
Fuck i just realized
Which one is the first?
@@DORAisD34D little shop of horrors!
We need to really appreciate Shaff for this. If we thought the sony ranking was bad this must have been torturous for him. Thank you Shaff for sacrificing your soul to give us entertainment.
Really sony? Blue sky's was the worst
Absolutely!!!
He stated at the end that the Sony ranking was more torturous. There were more movies and Illumination’s films were more bland than annoying.
Amen to that
Holy shit man, Biggering is actually insane. I can't believe Illumination wrote the perfect song that fit the message perfectly and then CUT IT, because the *CORPERATION* who made it thought that the *ANTI-CORPERATION* song in the *ANTI-CORPERATION* story was too *ANTI-CORPERATION*
Not to be THAT person
But...
Corporation*
This entire situation feels capitalistic dystopian...
@@_MY.ESCAPE autocorrect must have remembered a previous time when I'd misspelt it lol
XDD EXACTLY! Kinda ironic
I've also heard some people say in the comments of the biggering video, that biggering is what actually happened and that how bad can I be is how the onceler told the kid how it went. but good GOD it would've made the movie so much better if it were in there tbh
Hop being unabashedly pro-racism is one of the funniest concepts ever conceived
Proud Racist 😎💪
I desperately need some leftist millennial white guy youtuber absolutely off his zloingy on out of date hundreds & thousands to make a two hour long video discussing the themes of nepotism and racism in Hop
@@jellifygirl I would make it (I'm a white zoomer left winger) but I don't want to subject myself to that god-awful movie that I would have to do to throughout analyze it.
@@jellifygirl why’s he got to be a leftist?
Oof
the fact a lot of his vtuber crab images have moana not cropped out give me a hilarious mental image of tamatoa winning against maoi, kidnapping moana and every so often just ranting to her about movies and shes like "oh god i wanna see my family-" "WHY DOESNT HE USE THE DEHYDRATION GUN"
Nah, Moana enjoys their time together. They have this thing every week where Tamatoa will rant for movies for hours on end, then Moana goes back to the realm of the mortals. Sometimes, she joins in as well.
Erm actually he isn’t a vtuber, he’s a pngtuber
I agree with you though
Times Illumination rip-offs elements from other movies and franchises:
Despicable Me franchise: Inspired by the Megamind and Incredibles franchises and Frozen and Big Hero 6 franchises (From DreamWorks Animation, Walt Disney Animation Studios and Pixar.) but in the secret agent genre instead of the superhero genre.
Hop: Live-action Alvin and the Chipmunks and Smurfs plus Garfield franchises. (From Regency Enterprises, 20th Century Fox and Sony Pictures Animation.)
The Lorax: Based on the 1971 book by Dr. Seuss and 1972 animated special and is inspired by Wall-E. (From Pixar.)
The Secret Life of Pets franchise: Inspired by the Toy Story franchise (From Pixar.) but with pets instead of living toys and Bolt, The Aristocats, Lady and the Tramp and 101 Dalmations and Dumbo. (From Walt Disney Animation Studios.)
Sing franchise: Inspired by the Zootopia, Robin Hood, Trolls, Cars and Kung Fu Panda franchises. (From Walt Disney Animation Studios, Pixar and DreamWorks Animation.)
The Grinch: (Based on How the Grinch Stole Christmas!, its 1957 book and 1966 animated special and 2000 live-action movie and various Christmas specials.)
The Super Mario Bros. Movie franchise (Inspired from The Spider-Verse trilogy, and Wreck-It-Ralph franchise from Sony Pictures Animation and Walt Disney Animation Studios and based on the Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Donkey Kong, Toad and Princess Peach video games from Nientendo.)
Migration (Inspired by Finding Nemo from Pixar, the Rio franchise from Blue Sky Studios and The Lego Movie franchise.)
Big Tree (Unknown as of now.)
Illumination feels like the Pixar and Blue Sky Studios to Universal Pictures.
Imagine the kind of universe we'd live in if Illumination chose to put the same amount of heart into the rest of their movies as they did with Despicable Me 1
They did in Sing 2
I'm on the day of the mario movies release
Please cinema jesus let this be as good as the trailers
Then at least half of their movies will be good, akin to Sony
That would honestly be a pretty nice timeline
Especially with all the cut content in the Lorax that could've save the movie or at least made it tolerable
Hop being unabashedly pro-racism is one of the funniest sentences I have ever conceived
I haven't seen that movie in over ten years so I can't wait to see how this line works.
@@PresbianTier, Yo same here. I still remember the _"I love Candi!"_ scene, not the entire lyrics, just that... But I never thought it was THIS insulting though, Holy shiet.
I mean between Illumination "canonizing" Minions murdering children and refusing to acknowledge their role during WW2 it's not the weirdest thing this company has done.
@@GenericProtagonist118, Your comment vanished sadly (YT sure has been slacking with bots though and they don't anything) but I will recall it. The thing about them working for the big evil German mustached man is a bit void considering that they were stuck in that ice cave, more so interested in forming a civilization then outright murder this time...
--As far as I know. If they were, there would not even be any Minion existence for what I would do of this acknowledgment.--
BUT then again I guess they would help other big bads in history, such as helping the crucifixion of Jesus or one of those past over lords in history... Unless Minions have the Roronoa Zoro logic of just not picking up good directions of genuinely Evil people. Not every master was considered bad though, they tried helping out the precursor Caveman of humanity just struggling for survival.
@@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398 Doesn't show my comment vanishing on my end but it's maybe because I brought up them demonetizing a MOONGLOW ANIMATIONS stop motion that has minions getting massacred and them... "Stealing the consciousness" from little girls...
It's sounds much worse out of context but it's still kinda awful in context.
It's a good stop motion though.
I literally met the guy who voiced vector (pls don’t @ me for not remembering his name lmao I’m tired rn) but holy hell it was fun. Apparently he planned on giving Vector a deep, sultry, manly voice (because of how nerdy vector looks, he thought it’d be funny). I love that there is an alternate universe out there where vector has like, a kronk voice lmao
I wish we got that Vector instead, or like, somehow have both
@@M50A1 the vector grimwalker theory makes it possible but they won't exist at the same time, they'd be different clones
U met Jared Segal! That’s awesome
@@madamemystica
Nlg that would make an interesting joke or plotline.
Dude I can't even imagine frickin' Marshall's voice coming out of Vector's mouth
There was a cutout of Vector taped to the fan in my 6th grade classroom. We don’t know how it got there but it just… appeared as far as we know
That is amazing. He’ll be immortalized there spinning with direction and magnitude.
Thank you Scahff, not only for putting yourself through this pain for us, but for all of the great content you post in general. Keep going man!
Edit:Holy Tamatoa that's a lot of likes, thanks guys!
Same. I love this content, too.
It’s just great
Yeah yeah.
That's just true pain
@Don't Read My Profile Photo Alright then.
I second this!!!
Minor defense for Sing 1: They do a clever joke of the chameleon secretary having a glass eye, which makes it look like her eyes look in different directions like a real chameleon does...and that's really all.
Off topic but I love your pfp turtwig is my favorite Pokémon!
Except isn't she an Iguana lmao
Oke
As a mexican, I firmly believe El Macho to be the most accurate deppiction of a mexican in any animated movie (yes, even coco).
I went to mexico and everyone there is el macho but with different jobs
@@seapop2629 LOL
Lol
Confirmo
the had to compensate for carlos in HOP
Fun fact about Sing: The Giraffe (Daniel) who nearly gets the part before Johnny is voiced by Wes Anderson
A lot of great directors for some reason got in that film. Edgar Wright is also an additional voice.
It sucks that they never take full advantage of the whole “villain adopting daughters” thing. I always thought a fun sequel would be like him basically teaching the GORLS how to be super villains, each could have a specific interest (gadgets, strategy, etc) and have one want to be good or a hero or something. But no we gotta have minion shenanigans, pointless romance subplots, and a retconned brother lol
Ngl, despite the fact that I liked the Despicable Me 2 we got, I would have loved a sequel like this
Ugh, the "villain adopting daughters" thing is genuinely one of my favorite aspects about Despicable Me. It was just so... sweet, and I wish it was utilized more.
This idea makes me physically gag
@@captainjames4649 you seem nice. Thanks!
Yeah, I know Gru isn’t really as big on the “villain” thing anymore by the end, but I totally wish the second movie had the GORLS get to like try out his cool gadgets and try to help him in whatever new outlet he picked up
The Lorax could’ve had _such_ a huge impact had they kept the original premise of the book. Biggering is an absolute BANGER that DESERVED to be in the movie. But I guess it hit too close to home and they had to go more comedic for the kids.
I have the lorax's greed speech memorized and branded into my brain
I heard somewhere that advertisement partners actually requested that the song be cut because it spoke down on their practices and companies, so there's that. We live in a dystopian future istg.
The only impact it did was Tumblr. If it wasn't for that sans vs reigen poll wouldn't exist
It’s a real tragedy that they sanitised the whole book in the name of corporate greed and a happy ending so kids don’t get scared at the fact that the environment is being killed by corporate leaders that you could never know. I highly recommend you check out the video made by the sin squad on biggering
The problem with the 2012 version for me, is that it never took anything from the 1972 cartoon special. The Once-ler, while being faceless in the special, is far more aware of his actions, while not doing anything about it.
as a half Latino I can confirm that el macho is the mexican equilivent of giga chad, thanks for coming to my ted talk
May God bless you and your family and help you Give your life to Jesus Christ and repent. I pray that God will lead on the path to Jesus Christ and send the Holy Spirit to be your helper. I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus Christ I pray Amen! Jesus Christ loves you. Give your life to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness for ALL OF YOUR SINS. Even the ones committed in the past and repent. He’s coming soon. Please pray and repent.gdff
literal sigma male
Factz Im latina too and I can confirm El Macho is everything to us
Comparing the DM2 and DM3 reviews made me realize that 2 really is the better film solely because of El Macho and the plot being relatively more interesting. Sure DM3 shafted the Minions but I forgot how generic and boring the plot really was. Stan El Macho Supremacy
@@angelemeana2754 wtf
The thing that Illumination does consistently well across all their movies is make them good as far as the animation itself goes. Every movie they've made is visually great. It just sucks that the stories themselves tend to be lackluster.
Every movie they've made is visually great, except Hop.
I agree. While I don't hate Illumination like most people do, I feel that most of their films feel very basic when it comes to the stories of those films, but there are exceptions, like Despicable Me, Sing 2 and Super Mario Bros.
And it’s clear they’re just trying to target child audiences. Which means they’re not going to be history-making cinema experiences. My little sister watched a lot of these “awful” movies and had a good time. They suck watching them as adults, but he’s really being a bit overcritical here.
@@GabbyJFS_02bruh. Megamind, Shrek, wall•e, toy story, ratatouille, Incredibles, Mulan and the prince of Egipt are movies Geared towards kids and they still have emotional resolve and character arcs, and a great plot that doesnt happen in illumination movies. And the ones i listed, are far more enjoyable. Show your sister actual cinema and stop trying to make a point that doesnt have feet to stand on.
I remember going to see Despicable Me in theaters with my parents, who both dislike modern animated films. We ended up leaving the theater completely blown away with how good it was, which was shocking to me. To make things better, there was a full moon that night, which led to many jokes on the drive home.
I saw it in theaters too and my dad didn’t come out absolutely hating it which is something surprising since he doesn’t care about animated films
that's genuinely sweet
Yeah, my dad who really hates Disney movies like Frozen or Encantó REALLY loves DM1, he Always laughs at It, as he Is a classic Mario gamer from the NES and a watcher for the Classic Mario Animated Show as a kid (not sure if he watched the super show or The SM3 show) im sure my dad will love the new movie, altough he break apart from the franchise cuz you know, people grows and they start to like other things, so im kinda sure he will doesnt understand modern mario references or things in The movie. But oh boy if theres Classic Mario references he will lose his mind
I forgot all about Hop. Nice to know James Marsden's legacy has always involved being partnered with talking anthropomorphic animals
May God bless you and your family and help you Give your life to Jesus Christ and repent. I pray that God will lead on the path to Jesus Christ and send the Holy Spirit to be your helper. I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus Christ I pray Amen! Jesus Christ loves you. Give your life to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness for ALL OF YOUR SINS. Even the ones committed in the past and repent. He’s coming soon. Please pray and repent.
@@angelemeana2754 as a catholic, makes sense
“how are you not dead?”
*”i have no idea!”*
He is always with animals to the fact he became a CGI animal. Isn't that right Hitch Trailblazer?
Except Enchanted, where quite literally the opposite happened
Gru: Didn't want a fart gun and wanted a dart gun instead
Child Gru: Already developed the fart gun technology
To be fair, Gru was around the age where fart jokes were funny, no?
@@roshanyuvaraj6771 I guess you could say that.
“No, no, no. I said dart gun, not… okay!” 🎯💨🤢
Gets me every time! XD
Nefario probably pulled Gru’s childhood fart gun out of storage when he thought he was asked.
Yes I know I am going to bat for Minions 2 I didn’t realize at first but that’s where we are now
th-cam.com/video/0QRGrXt0aJs/w-d-xo.html
😱ITS FINALLY HERE😱
I like how you put meme sound effects to transition between different topics it's always fun to pause it and try to figure out what movie or topic represents the meme
Tbh, if they took "Sing", and entirely changed the whole premise of the movie to just be the story of Taron's gorilla character, I'd probably enjoy the movie much more.
Out of all the characters and their stories, his was the only one that made me somewhat invested. (and also cause it was surprisingly unexpected, and felt like the least tropey out of all the character stories in the movie)
Any time the movie would move to showcase what's happening with other characters, I always went like "Okay, but please go back to the gorilla guy soon".
May God bless you and your family and help you Give your life to Jesus Christ and repent. I pray that God will lead on the path to Jesus Christ and send the Holy Spirit to be your helper. I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus Christ I pray Amen! Jesus Christ loves you. Give your life to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness for ALL OF YOUR SINS. Even the ones committed in the past and repent. He’s coming soon. Please pray and repent.
@@angelemeana2754 Wot in tarnation
Monke
@@angelemeana2754 Wow I didn't know spammers in the replies could get more annoying than linking to a totally unrelated video for no reason but here we are
@@WhoTookSaltyCabbage they are evolving
Fun Fact: In the original draft for Despicable Me, there were only five minions, each with a different personality. But later, they changed it so there were tons of them that all had the same personality to make it more comedic.
there were tons of minions in the first movie too
@@matyaskassay4346 He means draft
That makes sense, since it's just the three to the mall, and the two who hang out with Gru and the kids getting attention, and they do have some personality to them.
Keep it up man!
Can he do a ranking on Kirby final bosses or Sid the sloth in Encanto?
There were tons of minions in the first movie, but when I think about it, only five of them were really focused on. Same could be said for the three minions that received most of the focus for their own movie, Minions.
Honestly, I'm glad Biggering was mentioned in this video because that song fucking slaps and is one of the best villain songs out there. Too bad Illumination realized it was basically calling them out, along with other large corporations. It really would've been the best part of the movie had they kept it in
@Emotional D
3@7@7
Keep it up man!
Can he do a ranking on Kirby final bosses or Sid the sloth in Encanto?
The Demo version of Thneedville is pretty great too.
LS Mark pointed this out in his Sing video (highly recommended).
"Who cares if a few things are dying?"
Enough said.
Ever since Russell Brand’s sexual allegations have come out, it brought me back to Schaffrillas’ rant on Hop, especially on the character of EB. It’s scary how well that rant has aged, and how hard it is to look at EB with Russell Brand’s controversy, especially the part where he sniffs James Marsden’s sister’s hair. I guess it’s definitely going to make Hop’s reputation even worse now.
Holy shit you’re so right
Wait what? Can I get a tldr? Or a deep dive. Either-or is cool
@@michaelmcdoesntexist8350 tdlr? I don’t want to go into details but if you’re brave enough to look into the details of Russell Brand’s history of grooming minors, either watch a video or read an article related to the subject.
I 110% believe the only reason this movie was made at all is because he was mildly popular at the time because he was with Katy Perry and people wanted to see what crazy and wacky movies her husband would make. Hop truly feels like a stoner movie.
The only good thing Russel Brand gave us was Dr. Nefario specifically in the first 2 movies.
Me and my friend actually had a long conversation today about the implications of the Lorax. At the end we came to these conclusions:
1. O'Hare controls a city state and is actually doing the best thing for his people despite the moral questions having to do with it.
2. Thneedvile actually is full of a type of gas as opposed to air, as the air in the bottles comes blowing out because of pressure OUTSIDE the bottle rather than inside.
And 3. The Onceler was the poorest in his family, and was the literal anti prodigal son. This is shown by his horse and wagon compared with his families super camper.
There was more, but this was the best out of the stuff we dreamed up.
The lore-ax
These conclusions are very good
And the second Death Star blowing up was actually a top secret plot to launch Palpatine's soul all the way across the galaxy to land on the secret Sith planet, which is how he got there in Rise of Skywalker. Plus, the sheer magnitude of all that Death Star kinetic energy was enough to power the entire armada for years! Palpatine really is a genius!
what about polluting the earth would benefit anyone other than Ohere
Fun fact: "thneed ville also had a alternative version that went unused, that described the place like an actual dystopia that they ignorantly pretende isn't terrible, unlike the final product that gives the place a positive outlook and makes there change in the end make no sense, it also foreshadows the oncler better then the granny just randomly knowing he existed
based on this knowledge, when can we expect an entire community of The Lorax Beta fans to emerge? because this reads exactly like the development story behind Half-Life 2's Beta stages lol
@im calling saul how the fuck did a spam bot got such an amazing name
There's also a fantastically dark song that would've gone in place of "how bad can I be", called "the biggering". Its on YT if you wanna look it up
The moment you realize that Schaffrillas’ entire TH-cam channel is just him ranting specifically to Moana
OH MY GOD
And occasionally inviting his Mii brother and a tree from space to his rants
Are you just getting me to talk about movies?...
If you are, I will gladly do so! IN VIDEO FORM.
Oh my god. We are Moana
@@sakareeh OH MY GOD
The eleven-minute section of this video about Hop was genuinely haunting, my fucking god it has caused me immeasurable, indescribable dread that I'm absolutely certain will last me the rest of my life. The way you described its immense flaws, the build-up with the Grinch, the sound choices, everything paints the picture of this Lovecraftian abomination that should never have been allowed life
Based on your description of Hop (2011), it sounds like less of a movie that's supposed to have a happy ending, and more like a 1984 or Animal Farm-style film, warning about giving someone (the dad) too much power, and oppressing the working class. It's an absolute masterpiece when it comes to creating anger in the audience.
Edit: Looking at the analysis of The Lorax, I think that Illumination's whole thing is making dystopian films. They're so good at it, and have produced the desired effect based on Schaff's reaction.
I have never heard of this movie before this video. It felt like discovering an ancient Lovecraftian tome, and when it opened it devoured my soul
@ToTaS And with nothing left inside yourself, you close the tomb.
@@elder-woodsilverstein7716 what, and put the tome back on the pedestal it was found upon? I had not enough energy for that, and what if another was to find it?
*every communist country in a nutshell*
@@kingofcards9 chad communists.
I love how Despicable Me 3’s ending is actually a huge event in its own universe, but it’s such a ridiculous franchise that no one noticed the Minions even abandoned Gru again.
@Emotional D wait
You're not a bot?
@@thatoneundertalefanatic No he's a bot
@Emotional D bot
Keep it up man!
Can he do a ranking on Kirby final bosses or Sid the sloth in Encanto?
@Queen Elizabeth 🅥 She was 96, who are you trying to attract here?
I remember putting on Minions for my four year old niece, neither of us ever saw it before, we get like thirty minutes in and she asked "Uncle Lu can you please turn this off I'm bored" I was so relieved
Based niece, i hope your niece is the same tipe of child who prefers the 2D animated Disney movies over the Live Action ones
Can he rank the Kirby final bosses next?
That child has great potential. Don't let it go to waste.
James then: *This will truly be the final boss.*
James now: Oh this is surprising good actually.
42:29 to 51:57
He talked about how horrible Hop was for 9 minutes and 28 seconds. That's how you know he genuinely hates this movie from the deepest depths of his heart.
I can't tell wether that means it's a long time or a short amount of time,
another reason why secret life sequel is better
Imagine how much more furious he will be when reviewing Artemis Fowl(His least favorite movie of all time).
@@turbobist2889 i need
So that's basically he likes illumination movies.He likes to watched.
So fun fact, my mother really likes illumination movies, like, she REALLY likes everything they put out, she loves the minions like any Facebook Mom does, takes us to watch every single movie that has been released, and when I was a kid she bought the DvDs so we could watch it again (even though I've always found them boring)
However TO THIS DAY she refuses to watch "The Grinch", she saw the trailer, and convinced herself to NOT watch it, despite it having an actor she liked as the main character, and being centered around her favorite holiday, and an iconic character she also likes.
I think THAT says enough about the movie's quality
Hope she likes Super Mario
Wow, that's impressive 🤣
What about HOP?
@@jenezeltorres3957 She probably will.
@@GooberInternet She likes it
Personally I think Despicable me 3 could've actually been a good movie if Drew was the villain. Maybe Gru taught him how to be a villain, and the two of the, started scheming a whole bunch of evil plans behind Lucy's back. Then, Drew does something truly evil that puts Gru's family in danger, and Gru realizes the reason why he stopped being a villain and fights back against his brother, showing that your biological family isn't necesarilly as good as found family. Gru already has has troubles with his biological mother in the past and this would've been an interesting development of the story. Instead we got cheese, unicorns, 80s references, and a jail scene. whooooo so fun
Honestly that's exactly how I thought this movie would go when I watched the first trailer.
That would have been great to see! Too bad they didn’t go for it. But it’s fun to think about what could have been
I somehow think Despicable Me 3 did a better Child Actor turned Super Villain kind of villain better than Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers.
At least Balthazar Brat wasn't based off of an irl child star and wasn't a complete scumbag like Peter Pan
Instead of this great villain idea we get some guy who back in the 80s was on a very famous tv show
*Dru
8:29:
Remember when those TH-cam ads kept showing This in the ads for the film? That was a very jarring sight to behold.
As a latino, when Schaff started to talk about the iffy racial implications of Carlos' mistreatment, I burst out laughing. It was hilarious, honestly
But to add another nail on Hop's coffin: The movie gets even worse at the end when EB says he'll be the easter bunny, and his dad is like "But son, what about your dream?" and EB goes something like "I'm still gonna be a drummer. But I'll also be the easter bunny". So the last 80 minutes of my life have been pointless since all EB needed to learn to solve the conflict was the amazing superpower of *time management* and the fact the entire movie wouldn't have happened had he put 2 and 2 together before or even during his conversation with his dad.
I honestly don’t understand why I liked this movie when I was 5
@@TheDarkLord648because kids like bad movies if you watch sharktale as a kid you will like it but then watch it again as an adult and the only thing that will make you laugh in it that you will remember that that movie was nominated for an oscar
@@firechillbro720 yeah ik I still just don’t entirely understand my five year old headspace lol
It was nominated cuz fish name is Oscar.@@firechillbro720
Wow! Hop being entirely pointless? Now I've heard everything!
So, I worked in the electronics department of Walmart some time ago. Back then (not sure if it's the same now), they played some sort of looping programs which changed every month on the televisions there. For some reason, for a brief period of time they decided to play a movie for the month instead of the typical advertising stuff. -A- movie. A single movie. On loop. Constantly. For a full month.
The first movie they chose was The Lorax.
What followed can only be described as cruel and unusual punishment. Every day I walked into work, The Lorax would be there. 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, the Lorax nestled itself into the deepest recesses of my mind. Every scene, every song, every frame, was branded into my memory. It haunted my nightmares. I would often find myself unconsciously humming How Bad Can I Be. Even now, almost 10 years later, it haunts me. I live a good Christian life because if Hell exists, I know in my heart what my eternal punishment will be. It will simply be that month, replayed until the end of time.
I will never forgive Walmart for this.
I was a nanny for children that LOVED The Lorax and I thought /that/ was bad but you, my friend, have truly lived through hell
Before clicking the "show more" button I was already saying "oh no" in my head given the topic of the video
Lmao .
Oof .
to both of you, the former especially, it might help to listen to the cut track biggering. it might give some glimmer of hope I guess here's the link th-cam.com/video/8M3hmhO6gys/w-d-xo.html
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I actually think that the basis of this interpretation of The Grinch is an interesting spin on the character: of placing the whole idea of "the mean old Grinch" in his assumptions of how people perceive him and having his change of heart be instead a change in perception in realizing that these people actually want to get to know him. If they did away with the pointless side plots and actually put a bit of passion into the execution, I really think they might have done something with it.
I couldn't agree more. Illumination's Grinch came across as hating people more than he hated Christmas, which is totally understandable.
As a hardcore introvert, 90% of his grouchy/mean moments struck me as either relatable or cathartic.
I think what The Grinch really needed was a more competent team of writers.
Fuck that remix of "You're a Mean One, Mister Grinch", though. It was almost as bad as Fallout Boy's cover of the Ghostbusters Theme.
@@bismuth7398 they probably saw that people pointed out that that song is technically a diss track and we’re like “hey that kinda sounds like modern audience stuff, LET’S GO APPEAL TO THOSE GUYS TO SUCK ALL THE MONEY OUT OF THEIR POCKETS!!!”
@@bismuth7398 The Jim Carrey movie did a similar thing, where the Grinch was a miserable asshole who acted that way to hide his severe depression and fear of rejection. Carrey Grinch's quotes are all over Tumblr for good reason.
(Edited because the rest of the post came out a bit too uncomfortable and personal for a funny video mocking a company's bad movies)
@@magicalminachan "...manic, uncontrollable mood swingy aspect of depression..."
As someone who actually has depression, I have no clue WTF you're talking about. And considering how Jim Carrey's Grinch behaves, I find that low-key offensive.
EDIT: It would make sense if we're specifically talking about Bipolar Depression.
@@funnyvideoguy3216 ...that makes way too much sense to not be the explanation. 😑
Schaffrillas: "More movies like Sing 2 please, Illumination"
The Super Mario Movie: "That's A-Me!"
No it’s not
@@coachcherokee1488Why
@@coachcherokee1488 To be fair, it is. Vaguely entertaining, tons of mostly meaningless references to the subject matter, the pacing is breakneck, there isn't a lot of character. Like Schaffrillas said, a solid C+. Although, the songs in SMB are a lot worse, and some of it doesn't make sense at all.
@@isavenewspapers8890 The Mario movie didn't seem egregiously awful or anything (it was just not all that good), but the way in which Schaffrillas talks about movies in the middle and bottom thirds of this list makes me think the Mario Movie would be well in the upper half.
@@TheTrueBrawler Schaff says he would rank it #2.
Fun fact: Vector from the movie helped me on a physics test. The question was
What are the two components of a vector
And I immediantly thought of Direction and magnitude instantly from the movie despite not having learned this from the lessons.
Who said TV rots the brain
direction
and
MAGNITUUUUUUUDE
my physics teacher last year literally showed that scene to define what a vector is
@@akuma4321 OH YEAHHHHH
@@Junimeek same, litealy right before the pandemic too
Hop was the only movie by Illumination that I haven't heard of. The experience I had at the ending of this ranking was like coming across a hidden Lovecraftian tome. Where it's horrors consumed my soul.
I liked it as a kid lol
I remember watching it when it came out and thinking "Wow, that was a stupid movie. Why did they make this?"
I heard of it but never knew how bad it actually was. I had a "friend" (not really) in primary school who tried to get me to watch it in theaters. I refused. And keep in mind that same "friend" made me watch Turbo three times in a row, binge literally every single Air Buddies movie, binge every Alpha and Omega movie, and forced me to play Madagascar Kart (terrible Shovelware Mario Kart clone) on Wii for 4 hours straight. That kid might have had the worst taste in games/movies I've ever seen. It borders on parody.
@@krimsonkatt good lord you’re a survivor
In other words, the movie review equivalent of Bloodborne.
Lorax character logic:
If (Son==Glowing):
Do Nothing, he's fine.
If (Son==Glowing) and (Trees==Chopped down) and (Movie==Almost over):
Son is not fine, therefore tree must grow.
Couldn't of said it better myself.
I was not expecting a Python script in a comment section for Schaffrillas's Illumination Ranking video but this is a good comment
@@thedeliveryboy1123 Thanks
Can you code?
@@thedeliveryboy1123 ahh, i know i recognized this kind of writing from somewhere!
The insane thing about Minions is that the soundtrack is actually FANTASTIC and I have no clue how they got the rights to any of it
I have terrible memories associated with Hop even though I never saw it. My maternal grandmother made it obvious that my mother was her least favorite child, and that disdain led to my mom's only child (me) being the least favorite grandchild by association. One time for Christmas, my grandmother gave me a DVD sleeve containing the bonus disk for Hop (back when DVDs were the primary way to watch movies at home, they would often come with two disks with one containing the movie and the other containing extra content related to the movie). She didn't even give me the box the DVDs came in. The actual movie disk and box went to her only grandson who was her golden child of the next generation during the Easter season. All the other grandchildren got a bunch of things, but the only thing I got was a bonus disc for a movie I never saw.
At least it's clear I wasn't missing out on a good movie, so thank you Schaff for making a bad memory a little less bad.
Christ.
Your grandmothers sounds a lot like mine
She thinks of me as the “golden grandchild”… and I don’t even LIKE being the “golden grandchild” while she treats my younger sister like SHIT
reminds me of a family christmas on my moms side. i feel you, ofc that stuff doesn't really ~matter~ but when you're a kid it stings. my only vindication was, as an adult, hearing my parents admit they were totally furious that evening about the ordeal. i had never said anything out of politeness but it was nice to hear LOL.
lmao
If I had a grandmother like that I'd throw a party when they died.
There is one positive that came out of hop. It made James Marsden’s performance in the Sonic the Hedgehog movies better since he already had experience interacting with cgi character.
He also interacted with that CGI chipmunk in Enchanted lol
@@ButterFlyGardenBlossomwich was an actually good movie
And it's what Irish people with kids watch on Easter
I loved it when Gru said, "Minions, it is time for me to rise!" Truly one of the movies of our time.
Joke is so old the movie was pretty bad
Can't wait for this meme to die already
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Keep it up man!
Can he do a ranking on Kirby final bosses or Sid the sloth in Encanto?
@@rhysburns5420 Imo, the movie wasn't bad, I think it's was a 7/10.
I don’t think sings placement should be changed or anything but the Seen were the gorilla breaks out of prison honestly touched me.
I always thought it was Dr. Nefario who created the minions, given that he always knows everything about them and always hangs out with them. He even kills some of them as if he can make them again.
Maybe that’s what there actual origins were intended to be but then the creators of the minion movie were like “we can’t make a movie outta that, let alone a money sucking one that appeals to two year olds!”
Actually Dr Nefario is Han solo:
1)Both did the same jobs when young and old.
2)Both interact with species that dont speak english.
3)Both frozen in Carbonite (at one point).
4)Both change allegiances at one point and then revert back.
in original canon, Gru (and maybe Nefario I'm not sure) created the minions for his own deeds. they were not some old-as-time organism, they were just lab grown and created. and my favorite part is the fact that Gru is a genuinely good boss to them, despite literally creating and owning them
he probably clones the minions
Well too bad.
They've been around for hundreds of millions of years.
The explanation of “Grimwalker Vector” was honestly hilarious. I feel badly you even had to watch anything besides the original Despicable Me.
I read that as Grinchwalker Vector. Matthew Patthew is upon us...
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Finally it's here after so long
Fax
I remember being forced to watch the Lorax in high school and given assignments basically asking what the messages of the movie were. My teacher did not care to hear how this movie actually butchers the story’s original message and how bad it is and it frustrated me be forced to regurgitate what the teacher wanted to hear and not the truth
Oh my god, this was us too. I was just on my phone the whole time texting my friends memes about the oncler fandom and onecest
@@winterspectre this just gives me huge gen z vibes and I relate tbh
Then there's me who watched the first adaptation with the actual 2D Dr. Seuss art style in High School :/
What did she want to hear? I'm curious how bad you can butcher the message you get from the lorax...
Did they want to hear "if you have a catchy song a suit and long ass legs people will find you sexy" ? Cause that's the only message i can get
16:46 that "bravo, Vince" caught me off guard
Schafrillas saying the word GOILS is singlehandedly more funny than the entirety of illumination's movie catalogue
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May God bless you and your family and help you Give your life to Jesus Christ and repent. I pray that God will lead on the path to Jesus Christ and send the Holy Spirit to be your helper. I pray this in the mighty name of Jesus Christ I pray Amen! Jesus Christ loves you. Give your life to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness for ALL OF YOUR SINS. Even the ones committed in the past and repent. He’s coming soon. Please pray and repent.tfs
...funnier than their entire movie catalogue collectively.
What makes me sad is that the Lorax had a ton of potential to be a good movie. There were some super creative ideas in there. You got a town that has so much air pollution that people need to buy purified air in bottles in order to live, a corporation that monitors everyone and prohibits the mere mention of trees because it might hurt their buisness, and a complex character who starts off just wanting his product to succeed and to make his small buisness grow only to destroy everything in his path and not realize the damage he's caused until it's far too late. It could have been incredible, but ironically, it fell to it's own corporate greed just like the Onceler.
Also the fact that Biggering could be a good foil to How Bad Can I Be. We could start with Onceler doubting what he's doing a little bit to outright denial.
This would've been a great character study for the Onceler in a musical format
I love to imagine it’s actually Tamatoa ranting about Hop to Moana for a full 20 minutes
Deleted scene: Moana and Maui sing I Want Candy in order to get Tamatoa to leave them alone
Moana: Maui, how should I distract Tamatoa so you can get your hook?
Maui: Just ask him his opinion on Hop, I'll have plenty of time to grab it.
@@nightmarefanatic1819 alternatively they shoot Tamatoa w/ the dehydration gun
At 44:17, my phone froze but I had it in my pocket with my airpods plugged in so I actually thought he was waiting to see if this was a kerprank
The way he explains each film that has a mario reference leading up to the mario movie was actually intense, I was at the edge of my seat
Edit: woa i'm fam
Me too
Same
What was the music playing during it
I died of laughter when the gorrila named mario showed up
They've been planning this all along!
My theory for how Vector's age works is that in a kerfuffle of some sort (possibly related to his dad's business at the Bank Of Evil) he was cryogenically frozen and spent 2-3 decades in it until he was defrosted and got to live out the rest of his life.
PHPHP I AGREE
He must have frozen for years like Steve Rodgers
51:22 Fun fact, Hank Azaria was both Gargamel in the Smurfs movie and the voice of Carlos in Hop. So not only is Gargamel actually in Hop, he's also the most sympathetic character.
Keep it up man!
Can he do a ranking on Kirby final bosses or Sid the sloth in Encanto?
@@emoji3266 can Schaffrillas review Hotel Transylvania 4: Transformania
@@emoji3266 oshit a kirby final/secret boss ranking would be dope as hell
update: i figured that reply was sus but i cant believe i fell for a bot :(
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@@firewall5189 I’m not a bot. But thanks for your input. Just spreading the word.
34:40 I love this rant XD
It should be added to the schaffrillas shorties catalogue
“Y’know the way people online talk about sing, you think it killed their grandma or something”
THIS IS WHY WE LOVE YOU SCHAFF
I don't get it
@@archivist_13 it's a reference to the "singing killed my grandma" line on the Trolls movie, it's such a horrible attempt at a sad scene that it became a meme
@@Josabella oh yeah, I rember now
@@Josabella It wasn't
Here are the timestamps for the video:
0:00 - Intro
1:08 - Despicable Me 1
6:18 - Sing 2
9:29 - Despicable Me 2: Electric Boogaloo
11:54 - Sing
14:32 - Minions: The Rise of Gru (SUPER EPIC MOVIE)
18:17 - Despicable M3
21:41 - Squarespace Sponsor
23:00 - The Secret Life of Pets
27:16 - The Lorax
32:22 - Minions
34:34 - Cars 2 Extra Rant Time!
35:43 - The Secret Life of Pets: The Second
37:43 - The Grinch
42:29 - Hop
51:57 - Conclusion
53:40 - The Mario Movie is Upon Us...
57:06 - Outro
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Finally it's here after so long
Thanks!
This is a legitimate story. Every single year in school before Easter, the teacher would show Hop, and I am not joking. Everyone else loved Hop, and I remember absolutely hating it so much, that in 4th grade, I had enough of watching it every single year, so when the teacher announced we were watching Hop, I threw a chair and was sent home.
It was truly worth it
It deserves a 0 on rotten tomatoes, 0 audience score, 0 metacritic, 0 everything!
Lol I remember one of my teachers putting it on around Easter in 5th grade
Are you sure they actually loved it or were they just happy to get out of schoolwork?
I nevered hated, i just thought it was extremely boring and mindnumbing
I'm pretty sure they'd watch ANY movie if it meant no schoolwork
So I was watching an interview with trey Parker about despicable me 3, and he looked like he didn’t want to be there, and the only reason he was doing it was because his daughter liked minions.
He hates the minions as much as we do.
That’s a fun fact
Sing 2 getting 2nd place is what I needed to see to validate my shock and awe that it actually worked way better as a movie than I could have ever imagined going in. It certainly has a few leaps in logic, but every plotline is sound and the "wanted by the mafia" subversion really had me!