Saginaw Power Steering Pump Swap | 1995 Ford F150
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video, I show you how to swap your factory power steering pump for the famous Saginaw power steering pump from a Ford E-series van. The factory power steering pump doesn't have great power, especially for larger tires. It makes a lot fo noise or whine. Hence, the "Ford power steering whine".
For this swap you will need a Saginaw power steering pump and bracket. If you can't find one in a junkyard you can buy them from the two sources below. You will also need a high pressure line from an e-series van or you can get one of the kits from the links below. You will also need actually power steering fluid, NOT ATF. For a 5.0, you may need a 99" serpentine belt.
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Just did swap heres some tips:
1> If you have ABS module by the stearing box its damn hard to thread hoses to stearing box u might cross thread. So before putting the pump and bracket in, put your hoses on the stearing box but dont torque them down yet. Them put the bracket and pump in. Once thats done hook up the hoses to pump end and synch both ends of the hoses.
2> if you already swapped out your idler pulley for a metal pulley like the one on the tensioner than stock belt is almost too small. I had too pull the tensioner back completely and slip over the idler. Then its almost fully compressed when you release it. So be plan on checking it and possibly get a slightly larger belt.
Great tips Josh!🤙 I hope people read the comments and find them. They will come in handy.
Where can I get the pump and bracket since mine has AC
I am in Utah
I put a rebuilt pump from O'Reilly's in... was TERRIBLE!! This is the BEST upgrade!! 👍
Glad I didn’t go that route.
Thanks for all of your F150 videos. I am doinh a major (330,000 mile) rehab on my 1994 5.8 liter EFI. You have sure made this 71 year old man's life much easier!
You are most welcome!🤙 I’m glad I can help ya out.
Just did my swap today, I love it! Removed junkyard 94 E350 w/351 and was 100% perfect fit for my 95 F150 XL. Bought a new high pressure hose from donor van. Slight manipulation worked fine, kept stock cooler on my truck (kept in circuit) and pulley was same diameter. The van I pulled it from didn’t have a cooler. Pump was still in great shape, full of fluid (not burnt smelling) dry on outside and the lines were clean. It had a name of a church on the van, I considered myself lucky to find. I can see why one would use the hose kit from desolate motorsports for a clean, and easy install. But all worked out great. Thanks for the inspiration Stevie 😁 Total investment $30 pump & bracket from junkyard, $25.99 high pressure hose from O’Reilly Part# PPS 13401402, 1 quart of Type F $10. LOVING IT!!!
Great to hear man and glad you are loving it! Definitely one of my favorite mods that was pretty straightforward.
You’re welcome!
I purchased a 93 f150 4x4 to build with my 15 yr old Son, your videos are awesome and will be helping us big time!
That’s awesome! I’m happy I can help you guys out!🤙
Hands down probably one of the best upgrades ive done to my truck. Steering is quiet and so easy. Took me about 2 hours taking my time on a 4.9 liter. One tip... when you find an E series donor van and take the pump and mount, save all of the hardware. When I was removing the bolts from my compressor 2 of my bolts broke off in the block. The van bolts saved my bacon.
You bet! I wish I had done it years ago!
Hey Joshua (or m.m.) what belt did you use for your 4.9L? Also, do you know what bolts are required? (I have a bracket being shipped without bolts) thank you
Man the amount of work you’ve put into this single truck is immaculate. I’d love to see what it looked like and how it ran years ago before you replaced everything to see the difference
I wish it was as immaculate as you think. Overall it’s a great running truck. I DD it, so I’m constantly dealing with wear and tear. The body needs a paint job and there’s some miscellaneous body rust. Otherwise, the exterior would look amazing.
The suspension is shot and needs to be completely overhauled. The frame is good. Engine idles a bit rough lately and my OD light on my shifter is blinking. Some days it feels like a hot mess. Lol But again, it’s solid and gets me from A to B.
@@TheMinuteMasters have you checked your ecm capacitors yet?! I’ve heard about a lot of them starting to leak lately
@@andrewjfranek3004 Good suggestion! I’ll check them.
Love the way you explain in the video step by step you and another vid just got my self a 1995 f-150 and working on it it’s gonna be my lil project
Thanks!🤙 Great to hear!!
I just did this swap in my 91 F150! Great tutorial. I did end up a little unlucky in that the pump I pulled from the junkyard was actually bad, but I got to learn how to use a pulley puller and do a full power steering flush in the process. All done, I still think I came out on top. The new pump is whisper quiet and noticeably stronger than the OE one. Thanks for making these vids! I feel super lucky that you have *mostly* the same truck I do so I've been following along and will continue to.
Thanks man!🤙 Ah! I guess we all roll the dice when we pull these pumps from the junkyard. Good experience though and the Saginaw pump outperforms the OE pump in every way.
You are most welcome! I appreciate you watching my videos!
The upgraded pump with a limited warranty is only 145+ shipping and the rebuild kit is 50+15 at the yard for the pump and if there’s damaged the kit WILL NOT fix your steering looseness just the seals as you experienced already.
@@ryano9520 oh yeah, I got a new pump. Maybe that wasn’t clear. Had to have the bracket from the junkyard. It’s just the pump that I pulled from the junkyard was no good. Once I replaced it with a new one I was good to go 👍
@@2dorkstv where did you get the new pump and part number please?
THAT is probably the best upgrade i ever did!!!! 👍👍👍👍
Absolutely!!
Just found your channel. My youngest son just got his first vehicle that i looked for over a year to find ( a 1994 f150 w/ 96k original miles on 5.0l.) Having trans rebuilt due to old seals not letting it shift right. He LOVES the old Fords almost as much as me. Mines a '68
Welcome to the channel man! That’s awesome! Very good find considering the miles.
Thanks a ton for this video. I'm try to get the bracket off so I can change that freeze plug back there. I've been trying to break them loose by hand to no success and didn't even think to use my impact driver for fear of breaking a bolt.
You’re welcome man!🤙 Yeah I’ve never had an issue using an impact gun, especially if you can fit it between the radiator and engine.
Literally the best bolt on upgrade for these trucks👌🏼 i got a custom made pressure line for mine but only because i was in a rush to get it done lol i put ATF cause i found out those pumps used that fluid from factory. Its been fine since then, Did it 4 months ago and it drives like a Cadillac now👍🏼
100% the best bolt on upgrade! I think most people make a custom high pressure line or adapt one. Really? I wonder why Desolate Motorsports recommends actual PSF. Yeah mine definitely feels and steers like a Cadillac!
Great stuff! Anything for the 4.9 on my ‘95? Thx!
@@kevinrich9471 If you want to do the Saginaw pump ungraded on a 4.9 you need to find a 4.9 bracket from an e-series van. The only thing you have to look out for is if your truck has AC. Then you’ll need to find a 4.9 bracket from an E series van that also has AC.
@@TheMinuteMasters The Saginaw Takes Type F Fluid, a bit more rare than straight ATF
@@andrewmcgill4957 the power steering pump that came stock on the Bronco’s and F Series also takes Type F lol
awesome video very self explanatory step by step........ the best of the video for me was about the diagram that shows the pulley's line up which it is TOTALLY different to my '95 f-150 due it is a MANUAL transmission....thanks for your time
Thanks man!👌 I appreciate it!
I’m glad I found your channel. I don’t have an F150 but I have an OBS Ford Bronco and a lot of things are the same. Very helpful video.
Glad to hear it man! Welcome to my channel!🤙 Definitely lots of similar parts between the OBS F150s and Bronco.
I just randomly started this video. I saw a leak in my driveway and saw the area it was coming from. Its the steering fluid and you just showed me what to do! along with the gear box and steering column videos I just watched. I'm a novice. I'd love a series by you going through the engine and explaining all the parts, tubes and wiring!
Well I’m glad you found me and you will be able to fix your truck up!🤙
I’ve thought about making a video explaining everything. Thanks for the suggestion’
I have replaced mine 3 times in the last year to get rid of that noise. That’s for the info. I’ll be looking for that setup now! Keep the great work up!
Yup, time to do a Saginaw Pump swap and you won’t have any noises!🤙 Will do man! Thanks for watching!
@@TheMinuteMasters hey just spoke to that company you talked about and they responded to me fast and with great info. I have an 95 4.9 truck and didn’t see anything for them but they offer one just a little bit more money. Seem to be great people. I may do a 5.0 swap first then get back to that pump setup. Keep up the great work
@@edwardpoff575 Nice! Both companies seem to have great people and great products. That’s why I like listing their products. Sounds like a plan Ed! I will and thanks for commenting!🤙
Finally! I've been looking into this for a little while now and couldn't find a good video on it. Thanks for showing how to do it man!
Hey no problem man!🤙 I appreciate it! I’m happy I could help you out. Thanks for watching!
My 94 F150 has been whining for 29 years. Steering works fine. Original pump.
Nice! Lol that’s how mine was.
Really digging the channel while putting the final touches on mine. Added a tailgate assist today. If you don’t have one I highly recommend.
Thanks man!🤙 I appreciate it! Nice! I’ve wanted to do that for a while. What brand did you use? I know Dee Zee makes assists but nothing for a 1995. So I thought about adapting it.
What tailgate assist did you use?
A very good tutorial! I have done this on several OBS trucks and highly recommend it. Most recently I did my first on a truck with a 300-I6. Here are several thoughts on this. First, many of these brackets from earlier E-Series vans will have the older style larger SAE sized AC compressor bolts (1/2", I believe). If you get one of these be sure to also get the mount bolts for your conversion. They will work with your compressor but you will need to drill out the mount holes in order to accommodate the 1/2" bolts rather than the 6 mm size the truck came with from the factory. Should you only be able to find a pre-serpentine belt van the bracket will still work but you will need to locate a serpentine style pulley for the Saginaw pump since the Ford C-II pulley has a different size hub so the pulleys are not interchangeable. You may also consider, regardless of your donor van, getting a new or rebuilt pump since any you find will probably be original and therefore already 30+ years old. Also, while you have the PS system open try to bleed out all the old fluid from the steering gear box. This is also a good time to add a screen or filter to the fluid return line.
Thank you, Don!🤙 this is definitely one of my favorite mods for an OBS Fords. Good info on the bracket and bolt conversion. Hopefully somebody who needs that information, can get it in the comments as I often suggest they do for the straight six engines.
I’m going to do this for a 1989 ford bronco I’m new at all this stuff. I have a 5.0 with a/c what can should I look for at a junk yard for the bracket. And should I get a HP hose made for the pump and steering box and the low pressure?
Thank you
Thank you for all the videos
Sick upgrade, didn’t know there was a solution
Thanks man! Yup! That’s the solution for the power steering whine!🤙
Is very nice when you live in a country where you can find everythin that you need for your truck. Here in México is very hard to find parts for this trucks, i miss Texas.
Yes, it is nice. Although it can be difficult to find good junkyards. Are you able to order parts online?
@@TheMinuteMasters yes i can order on line but is too espensive to ship it to mexico plus import cost, what I do is order and ship to my dougther adress in texas and wait , am like she is coming for xmas this year and shes goin to bring me some small parts for the transmisión that is having some problems and see if i can fix it. In the USA you can fine new or used parts, but here neider new or old.
@@alanvillanueva4541 I see. That’s a good idea having your daughter bring everything to you. You can have your own import business.
the power steering pump in my 96 bronco is pretty quiet still, but this seems like it's worth while....Also, love the headliner!
The Saginaw power steering pump is definitely worth it!
Thanks man!🤙
Just subscribed rebuilding a 93 f150 5.0 4x4 and glad for your videos I don't know anything about Ford's
Nice man! Glad to have you as a subscriber!🤙
Another great video from your channel. But quick question, what year E-150 will work?
Good question! I’m not exactly sure what years but I’d search 90s through 2006.
Your video helped me out quite a bit thanks Stevey.
You’re welcome Josh!🤙
Hey bud love all your content I've used many body videos to make improvements to my rig 😊 (I have a short the truck in my profile) the thing is I have a F250 5.8 1996 I realize it's complete different engines but I just want you to know I really appreciate your videos man ❤
Thanks man!🤙 I appreciate it. Actually the 5.8 is very similar to the 5.0 in my truck.
Ugga-dugga… LOL I’m gonna use that!
Love this channel. Keep up the great mods bro.
Thanks man!🤙 I appreciate it!
Real quick, are all the steering pumps on the E series vans the saginaw pumps?
@@joshuaparnell8891 That’s a good question. They could be. I know Chevy express vans use the Saginaw pump, but the bracket is different.
ive learned enjoy the whine
😂😂😂
No way, drives me absolutely insane every day
Dude! Ur the best… I be been looking into this for a while.. now , if u do a hydro boost tutorial, you ll be my best friend forever! Thx
Thanks man!🤙 I appreciate it! I’m happy you found my channel! One day I might do the hydro boost brake upgrade. Might be a bit overkill right now. Lol
Hey Stevie! You linked the full, new pump kit from DM- Any idea if their new Saginaw pump is as quiet and effective as one off of an E-Line? How do they compare?
Hi! The Saginaw pumps should be identical. The DM kit will be a brand new pump whereas my junkyard pump isn’t. They make their bracket and I’m using an E-series bracket.
Found this video and would love to tackle this on my 96 Bronco! Is there a particular year of E-series vans I’m looking for to pull from?
You just need to find an e-series van with the same engine as your Bronco that has the Saginaw pump.
This is awesome. I need to check out desolate and see if they have a hose kit for the Inline 6 truck. I’ve had a pump and bracket sitting for a while but haven’t gotten around to it yet.
Thanks Miguel!🤙 Yeah you’ll have to check. It might be something you’ll have to fab up. If you read through the comment section of this video, there is one guy who’s done the in-line 6 Saginaw pump swap and he provides good details.
I did the swap on a 95 4.9L. I just ordered a hose for an e150 and it fit fine. I had to drill and tap a hole in the new bracket. I think it was for the throttle cable bracket if I remember correctly. It's been a few years since I did the swap. I did need a longer belt for the new pump.
Yessss i was waiting for this you’re awesome
Thanks man!🤙 I appreciate it!
Love the video man awesome work. This is just what I need. Just a quick question could you purchase a brand new pump and bracket from say the part store for that year Econoline to do this mod?
Thanks man! 🤙 I appreciate it! You sure can. At least that way you know it’s all brand new.
I love easy to do mods but I was in a pinch. Lost all my power steering fluid put Mercon V ATF in the reservoir and never heard a power steering noise. Tried draining the ATF for proper power steering fluid and the noise came back with vengeance. I have a 96 f150 so your mileage may vary.
Nice! So that did work for you. Most of the time, the Mercon V can make the OE power steering pumps quiet.
if you had an og power steering pump, then the mercon v is what you should have been going with anyway right?
@@unclereub4024 Yes, Mercon V for og power steering pump.
I've recently read in quite a few different sources that you should use the fluid that the originally used (Mercon V) and not what your new Saginaw pump originally used. The pumps can pump any of these fluids, it's the steering boxes that need the correct fluid, which has evolved over the years...Mercon>>>MerconV, for example. @@TheMinuteMasters
I’ve got the parts to convert my 4.9, just waiting for the time to get it done.
Nice!🤙 You’ll love it. Took me about 2 hours. So without filming, it would have taken me less time.
Steve, what belt did you use for your 4.9? I finally found a bracket that came available, now i am collecting the other parts needed. Thank you
@@carlbrooks6573 I still haven’t gotten mine installed yet, hopefully this summer sometime. I am planning on starting with the original belt since there isn’t a lot of difference in pulley size, and then go from there.
@@SteveStoltz ok, sounds like we are on the same time line, i looked at belt lenghts that fit the 4.9 with ac, and there is 1 inch difference between the manufacturer's on their listed specs. Some were 98+ inches some were 99+ thanks for the reply.
Planning on doing an intake change using an intake designed for a mustang. That will require me to rotate the upper 180 degrees. Is this anything you have tried before?
I haven’t. Are you planning on using the stock intake manifold or are you going to switch to the Mustang intake manifold?
@@TheMinuteMasters I’m gonna use a gt40 intake, and lightning accessories for the throttle cable and such. Bbk 65mm tb, and 1.5 phenolic spacer to make the runners longer.
Awesome! I might do this and the steering box at the same time. Is it a lot easier to turn the steering wheel now?
Good move! Oh yeah much easier and SO much quieter!🤙
Also new kit eliminated using the cooler hardline loop on crossmember per instructions. Although i cant really see any downside to using if the cooler isn't leaking.
Did you use the Desolate Motorsports hose kit?
@@TheMinuteMasters I sure did. I liked how it made life easy. No junk yard hunting for a high pressure hose. Also liked the fittings. Highly recommended.
@@joshmiller7870 Desolate Motorsports puts a lot of thought into their products!🤙
Hey what’s up man, great vids..quick question, how much fluid did the pump take? I’ll be doing the Saginaw conversion to my 94 f150 this weekend
Hi Eddie! Thanks man!🤙 I bought one bottle of power steering fluid. Some people also use Mercon V ATF. I’ve been told use ATF in the OE pump and power steering fluid in the Saginaw. So I’d get one bottle of power steering fluid.
Why is your fan shroud cut? Just curious. I did a d44 swap, Saginaw and blue top on my 96, steers like a dream even with the 35s
I have no idea. I bought the truck with it cut but never noticed it. A transmission shop actually pointed it out to me.
Nice! 🤙 I’ve got a video coming out, hopefully this week, about installing the Borgeson steering shaft upgrade. I’ve test driven it already and it’s nice!😁
Hello, I am your subscriber. I saw your video, is it the cause of the Power Stringing Pump making that sound from the High Pressure Hose? And the hose you replaced is not the original one that came with the car? And finally, is there something like a spiral in the hose that you replaced? Thank you, I'm waiting for your answer. Always success. Gbu
I’m not sure what causes the sound from the original pump. Supposedly you can fix the same back exchanging the power steering fluid with Mercon V transmission fluid.
The Saginaw pump uses power steering fluid and as long as it’s at the correct level, it should be relatively quiet.
The hose needed to adapt the Saginaw pump is the high pressure hose. It’s not the original hose. I don’t think there is a spiral piece either.
Thanks man!
Seems very nice but is it worth the $500? My power steering whine annoys the hell out of me but I'm trying to decide if it's worth upgrading
I’ll put it this way, other things that need upgraded on your truck. I would do those first. However, this is one of my favorite mods.
Damn man, I've been chasing that noise for 2 weeks now. I got the truck on trade and heard that whine figured bad pump nope its brand new, chased lines did have a leak fixed that still whines. It's a Ford thing, okay. Thanks for the video!
No problem man!🤙 it’s a great mod!
Nice tutorial.
Thanks!
Love this channel, a lot of useful info. With that said, I have a 95 bronco w/5.0 and did the conversion. I got the different bracket but am having a problem with the alignment of the belt with everything else. Not sure if I got the right power steering unit. I purchased the newer one and the pump sits back about 1/4 inch so it keeps tearing up belts. Im stuck. Any info is greatly appreciated.
Thanks man!🤙 I appreciate it.
Interesting. I don’t know how different the new pumps are from the old. It’s too bad you can’t do a comparison.
That A/c compressor had two plugs on it. A two pin. And that round four pin. Would you happen to know a part number on it. My 93 EB Bronco has the same set up but wrong compressor installed and I’m doing a Power steering and AC revamp
Unfortunately I don’t have an answer for you. What I’ve done in the past is gone to an auto parts store and had them for a couple of different model and year parts off the shelf and I just compared them.
I have a '92 f150 with a 5.8 and a/c. Did the swap and the belt length i ended up using is 94.5" its just left of center on the "range" gauge on the tensioner, so a little snug but within range. I don't know why it is that way, must have a different sized pulley than stock on one of my accessories 94.75" would be better but couldn't find one. I also used type F atf in the pump because my steering gearbox had that in it already. If i were to do it over, flush and fill with ps fluid seems like the better option. Heard mixing ps fluid and atf may cause leaks with time.
Belt pn# 945K6
low pressure hose pn# 13401407
Curly one on the crossmember used for cooling
high pressure hose pn# 13401402 i needed to bend the curved part out a bit more to make it work, cheapest option though. Hope this helps someone.
Thanks for sharing man!🤙 Yeah I’ve always been told ATF for stock pump and PSF for Saginaw.
great video! stupid question here. When you started her up and burped the lines, was the reservoir cap on or off? In the video it was off when you said your were going to do it and on when you when back to it.
Thanks man!🤙 Not at all. I left the cap off while I burped the lines. The fluid should never overflow under any circumstances. If it does, there had to be a ton of air in there to displace the fluid.
@@TheMinuteMasters Thanks!
That whine isnt nearly as loud as the electric fans i installed in front of the condenser.
Really? They are that loud?
@@TheMinuteMasters yup. I really need to replace them with a good brushless fan. If I'm going to put up with that kind of noise I might as well get better performance
I was wondering if this the same with my 1989? engine looks different but I wasn’t sure
My understanding is that as long as the engines are the same, the bracket should work regardless of year.
It would be nice to delete the whole pump altogether and replace it with the fully electric stering box. Some newer vehicles have completely gone away from hydrolic power steering.
Really? I’ve never heard of all electric steering.
@TheMinuteMasters My Chevy Equinox has an electric asssted gear box for steering. No pumps needed. The main problem is trying to retrofit something like that to an OBS Ford F150. It's probably doable.
Awesome!
Thanks man!🤙
I have 93 bronco 5.8. I took off my idler pulley and smog pump pulley to delete bypass smog pump that was clicking like crazy and went with smaller serpentine belt. Will this DM kit still work with my shorter belt. I do have ac and everything works right now. My brand new motorcraft power steering pump whines like a beast.
Good question. I don’t know for sure. I’d assume it would if the pulleys are the same size. I never had to change the belt so this could work for you.
@@TheMinuteMasters ok thank u!
anyone else like me and actually like the sound of the whine lol
Lol I’ve lived with that whine for 7 years.
@@TheMinuteMasters 24 years and counting with the whine lol
@@cesarchavezalvarado5570 You got me beat!😂
Well, it surely tells us the steering is working.
@@borderlineiq Good point!👆 lol
Great video
Thanks man! 🤙 I appreciate it!
1995 5.0 v8 f150 same issue but what kinda E series ford van matches my truck swap what year does it matter just few question or does this this video even match my 95 V8 f150 5.0?
From what I’m told as long as the engine matches yours, you should be able to do the swap.
Sweet! Did this upgrade last year on my 92 but it had the 4.9 so obviously it was alot different didn't actually have to do much i used the original lines the only thing i had to do was get a bigger belt because of the 3g alternator going to put a part number for the belt just in case someone sees this comment DAYTONA:K61005
Nice! I have the 130 amp 3G alternator but it came with a smaller pulley.
Where you able to use your original pump bracket?
@@TheMinuteMasters no i had to use the van one i just ordered it from ebay so it just a straight bolt in no pulley puller nonsense. It was actually alot harder to find for my year for some odd reason
@@adrianbautista7815 That’s good to know.I guess 92 and 4.9 could be a rare-ish combo.
@@TheMinuteMasters maybe too bad i haven't driven the truck in a while just 4x4 swapped it the transmission was bad saw your video on the transmission removal really helped!
@@adrianbautista7815 Damn that sucks. At least I could help ya with the video.🤙
Have you done a video on a complete power steering flush on OBS F150 ? Not seeing one unless I overlooked it.
I haven’t. That’s a good idea!🤙
I'm gonna do it next week...gathering the last few supplies over this next week. Researched it, ad nauseum, now it's time to execute the plan. We could do a collab video. @@TheMinuteMasters
What bracket will work on a 1989 ford bronco 5.0 with a/c so I can grab one from the junk yard
I think you can find a bracket from a similar year van. Otherwise, I don't see why a newer 5.0 bracket wouldn't work as long as the belt is the same type and length.
Is the bracket the same for the 4.9 inline 6?
The brackets for the 4.9 is different from the 5.0 & 5.8 bracket.
I was wondering what year of Vans u can get the parts from does it have to be same year?
If I remember correctly, you just need to find a van with the same engine. You can’t go wrong with pulling it from a 90s era van though.
Hell yeah bruther
Thanks man!🤙
Does ANYONE know the actual Ford Part number for the E-Series Econoline pump bracket? I just read through all the comments, and did not see it listed.
Well, I'm nervous as a "you know what " in church, but, Betsy LuLu is leaking purty bad from my Cross country trip...Sooo, Imma have ta git up under her and see where the leak is coming from...Hopefully its just where the plastic housing "Clamshells" to the metal part, and just change the big "O ring ", ...Some guys on TH-cam have did a full rebuild on the pump...I don't know 'bout that, since my apartment area doesn't allow me to work on my truck in the parking lot....Sooo, gotta go to one of my "Maintenance Spots"...Really sux, but, that's what I'm working with....😫😫😫
That sucks man. When in doubt, you can always get a new pump.
I did the apartment living and had to work on the street for a while. Not fun.
@@TheMinuteMasters ... I totally agree....On the side of the street is my "Maintenance Spot "... Cars don't like to move over when passing by....
You ever do a cam seal on one of these fellas? Mines dripping about 1.5 quarts a week and I’m not sure what all I need to get ordered up
Not yet. I think my seals are still good. Granted, I burn/lose a decent amount of oil too.
@@TheMinuteMasters if my measuring cup is accurate it doesn’t burn much if any oil it’s just pissing out the back
@@TheMinuteMasters ya it was the inspection port back there 10 bolts I think but after having a fight with the parts guy I grabbed a sheet of cork and a little baby hammer and fixed the problem.
What size pulley do I need to get I’m getting the line kit you suggested and when I called they said they use 20-7878 pump in there kits. Amazon has them for $45 so I need to know what size of pulley I should get.
Thank you
The size the came with the pump was perfect. So factory E-series size should do it. I just don’t know what that size is.
This would be the same process for 87-91 with 5.0 correct?
Yes
I got a vacumm line broke
I hope you can help me to figure out where it goes
I have a full video on how to replace all the vacuum lines. I would check that out and see if it helps you.
My local Junkyard has a plethora of E-Series Vans… does the bracket from the van match the attachment points on the F-150?
If you get the matching engine. It should line right up to the mounting points.🤙
Is that Desolate motor sports in California, also who is the other guy who sells the whole kit? Can't find the bracket.
Desolate Motorsports is in California and so is the other guy: Don’t Tell My Wifey Racing.
Thanks, another question if it says to use another type of power steering fluid what about the fluid left over in your steering box?
@@abrahambarraza199 You’ll want to drain or flush that out. The Saginaw pump uses actual power steering fluid. The OEM used ATF.
Just saw your video I have a 95 ford bronco 5.8 that I wanna do the swap too any recommendation on where I can buy the pump new instead of a junk yard
I think you can buy the Saginaw pumps anywhere that you buy new parts. Technically you would ask for the pump corresponding to the make and model van it is taken from. So in this case you would be asking for a 1995 Ford E150 power steering pump.
I have 1996 with 4.9 8 pumps and still wine? Can I get saginaw kit for it? Tell me how I'm at the end of my rope...lol.
You can definitely do a Saginaw pump swap. You will need a 4.9 bracket from a Ford E-series van. If you read through these comments, there is a guy who explains all the minor things you have to do with a 4.9 Saginaw pump swap.
Hey Stevie, did you actually have a problem with your power steering? I just put in a new stock pump, and replaced the two main hoses/steel lines, as part of my rebuild. However, I never had any problem with power steering, other than some leakage from the loose cap on my old power steering pump.
Hey Joe! Nope my power steering pump was fine, aside from the fact it has 238k miles on it. This pump is upgrade/performance mod for these f150s. The Saginaw pump has more power and it doesn’t have the whining noise the stock pump had. If you replaced your pump with stick equipment, you’ll be good to go. I’m just picky. Lol
@@TheMinuteMasters Ya....get rid of that whining sound....and then add a cherry bomb muffler...lol. I love loud exhaust.
@@joeidaho5938 Hahaha! I have a magnaflow on there now but it’s not a loud one. I’m thinking of doing an exhaust cut out.
@@TheMinuteMasters Lol...I never heard of an exhaust cutout, but just read about it. Sounds pretty cool. I guess it allows you to have the occasional choice of bypassing parts of your exhaust system? I still haven't modified my exhaust system....so I have the stock 2-1/4" pipe, I think. I'm not thinking about dual pipes, but probably enlarging the single exhaust to either 2-1/2"....or probably 3". Maybe next year. Not sure if I'll get a flowmaster...or cherry bomb muffler...lol.
@@joeidaho5938 Yup, the way I see it. You could put an exhaust cut out right before a very quiet muffler and put a cherry bomb on the exhaust cut out side. Then you have the best of both worlds. With the flick of a switch you can be loud or quiet!🤙 I recommend a 2-1/2” exhaust for a gas truck. I don’t think 3” helps with performance and it may even decrease performance.
What year E-series van am I looking for?
Also can I purchase this pump new from the parts store?
I don’t know the exact year range. The engine being the same as yours seems to be the most important. With that said, I would think 90s e-series is where you want to start.
Yes, you can get the pump from an auto parts store brand new.
@@TheMinuteMasters i bought one from Desolate Motorsports and installed it yesterday. Works like a champ. Deleted smog pump belt size 92 3/8
My 1990 F150 has a pressure sensor in line. Is there an adapter to put this in when I do this upgrade or do I not reinstall the pressure sensor?
Interesting. I don’t recall a pressure sensor on my stock pump. You can always try installing it without the sensor and see what happens.
I have a question, i would like to do this mod on my 1993 ford f-150 5.0 and the high pressure line has a sensor on it. Do i just unplug it and use the van high pressure hose and everything will be ok?
I would assume so. My 95 didn’t have a sensor. So that’s new to me.
@@TheMinuteMasters Thanks for the reply! it boosts the idle up when your turning so your truck doesn't stall i guess it only comes on some models. I unplugged mine and did the swap. BEST thing i've ever done to these trucks!! i'm going to watch all of your channel and see what else i can do to mine. Thanks!
Hey nice video man where’d your get your hat from love it man
Thanks man!🤙 I appreciate it. My hat is from Troll Clothing Co. If you search “dirty hands clean money”, that would also take you to the website.
Awesome !!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks man!🤙
So do you have to replace the hoses or can you use your old ones?
You will need a new high pressure line hose. You can buy the kit I have linked in the description or you can retrofit one from an E-series van.
Hey Stevie! What length belt do you have on your 302? I did the 3g alternator upgrade along with this one and for the life of me, I can't figure out what the right belt size is. Dealing with belt squeal and the shop I took it to couldn't figure it out either. Any help is appreciated!
I use the stock belt and the pulley that came on the 3G alternator. It might be worth just buying a new stocked belt and see if that fixes your issues.
@@TheMinuteMasters right on. I think I have the stock belt size but it could just be that picked a low quality belt. I’ll try another one. Thanks!
Will the swap work if I use the two hoses from the donor van or will they need to be upgraded I managed to get the whole assembly from a 95 e250 with a 5.8 and its the same engine in my bronco I just don't know if the high pressure lines from the van will hook up to the bronco or will they need to be upgraded as well
Good question. The high-pressure line from the van will need to be retrofitted in order to work. Otherwise I recommend getting the high-pressure line hose kit from Desolate Motorsports. There should be a link in the video description.
@@TheMinuteMasters sounds good your video was very helpful my power steering pump is giving out due to the pulley being able to move forward and back and it squeaks loud so I thought what a better time to upgrade to something less noisy my current pump is noisier than my truck and its straight pipped so this will hopefully be quieter and better steering since my truck is lifted 6 inches and on 33s going to be 37s soon ps I'm using my wife's laptop that's why her name pops up but she loves the bronco too so its all good 🤣
@@emilyruelas358 thanks man!🤙 I’m glad I could help you out!
Definitely a good time to upgrade. Sometimes that’s what’s nice about diesel trucks. Stuff brakes and it gives you a great excuse.
Can you do this swap with the 300 I6
Yes, you just need to correct bracket.
Will this setup work for the 94 f150 w/4.9 litter??
This mod does work for the 4.9, but you will need the 4.9 bracket.
Question.. I have the parts to do this swap to my 95 F-150 5.8 just needed the pressure line (just ordered Stevie, thanks!) But the bracket I got from the boneyard didn't have compressor bracket bolts. I've heard the original bolts will not work supposedly and I need the Saginaw bracket bolts? Different size? Is this true? Did you use your factory compressor bolts?
Nice! You are most welcome!🤙 The good news is, you can reuse your factory bracket bolts and ac compressor bolts. The guy who pulled my setup from the junkyard, included the bolts but they were identical. Even the lengths were the same.
Hey bro love the videos . Would this work for a 4.9L engine?
Yes, but you will need a bracket from a 4.9L e series van.
I had the exact same question! Lol
I’m guessing this all may be different with the inline 6 motors?
The in-line 6 engine is a little different. If you sort through the comments under this video, you will see one comment that explains the difference.
Hey Stevie- what are your thoughts on in line filter add on? Over kill?
An in-line filter isn’t a bad idea. I’ve heard it’s great for both the pump and steering gear box.
ok I gotta do this... wish me luck...
Nice! It’s a pretty straightforward upgrade! Good luck!🤙
Hi there again quick question does your AC work? Do you have any videos on redoing a complete AC system?
My AC does work. I think it could be colder. So far, I have a few minor fixes for the HVAC system in general but I haven’t had to replace any of the big parts: condenser, compressor, etc.
Check the tiny vacuum line near the firewall by the heater core lines. I have seen videos where that vacuum line dry rots and messes with the ac for some reason.
4.9 litre? I just replaced my pump and the new one is so noisy its nuts.
This is mod can be don’t forget a 4.9l too. You need the correct bracket and your radiator hose has to be suspended out of the way.
Partly into the video, but what about the "farmer steer"? When my steering wheel is so sloppy and I can turn it a good 1/4 turn before there's any noticeable input? The steering input is soft, unresponsive, and I can wobble the steering wheel back and forth going straight and it would take a CONSIDERABLE turn before anything happens. Would this mod help that?
This would increase the responsiveness of the steering. If you want to tighten of the steering and get rid of the sloppiness you need to:
- replace the steering gear box (I have a video on this)
- replace the tie rod ends
- upgrade the steering shaft to a Borgeson one. (Hopefully, a video soon)
What he said ^^^^ Leaking oil will melt the OEM rubber axle pivot and radius arm bushings and make all sorts of slop in the steering too. Upgrading to polyurethane will make a big difference. Ball joints need to be in good shape too.
So you never mentioned what years fit. I have a 93 F150, so does that mean I need the pump from a 93 E150? I'm just worried about bracket fitment. Thanks for the video!
You can get the pump and bracket from a range of years. It’s mostly dependent on the engine type. If you find the exact year and engine, you are golden!🤙
I realize this is a few months late, but the E series used the saginaw pumps from 93-95.
Hello, I replaced my power steering pump and it’s still making noise, it is wining and idk what I did wrong. Do you possibly know!
Hi Sean, did you install a factory power steering pump or did you do the Saginaw power steering pump swap?
@@TheMinuteMasters it was a factory pump
Does such a thing exist for the 460?
Good question. I think the Don’t Tell My Wifey Racing does have a 460 kit. His link is in the description.
Could you install a Saginaw pump in the truck bracket or are the mounting holes for the Saginaw pump different in the van bracket? Thanks!
The mounting holes are different. I don’t know exactly how different they are though. I just know, the van bracket is needed to make the swap work.
@@TheMinuteMasters after a couple weeks of calling and waiting for reply’s I finally found a pump and bracket out of a E350 for $55. Amazon has the pump fitting Russell #648060 for $9. I just have to research what site the inverted flare adaptor is. We make our own hyd hoses at work so that part is easy. Thanks again for the video! I never would hav known you could do this otherwise.
@@supersportimpalass Great to hear man!🤙 You are most welcome! Thanks for watching!
I going to do a body swap from 91 2wd to a 95 4x4 my 91 have a bent frame
Nice! Have had my frame crack in a few spots but now bends. At least, you can prep the new frame and make it rust proof.🤙