Nice job! I have an old roughout cutting saddle that I've had since I was a kid. I'm replacing the broken original fenders on it. It's amazing how dry the under parts are. Lots of oil.
Very helpful video. Do you have a video showing how to clean - oil and condition a tooled saddle. I have a black professionally dyed tooled show saddle that could use a good oiling . Thank you
Great video!!! I have a quick question.. my daughter’s saddle has more of a suede seat than a rough out seat. What do you recommend for cleaning/conditioning a suede seat?
Unfortunately there’s nothing great and specific in terms of suede. You can find “solutions” but either, you re-rough roughout, or oil/condition. Rehydrating is always your best option, but it will darken
@@themaninblackleatherstudio thank you for the input! The nice thing is, the suede on her seat is black, so darkening won’t be a problem!!! Again, thanks for the knowledge. We cleaned and oils her saddle today, and it looks great!!
oil is what you mainly need. you do not need to use conditioner, its for giving it a little shine, and it will hydrate the leather, however it wont penetrate like oil. oil is the sundae, conditioner is on top (you get 99%of the benefits from oil, and most people dont even check their tack, let alone service it, so i just have people focus on getting a good oil schedule
theres no perfect answer. i say at least 1-2 times a year. most people do it 1-2 times over 10 years. if your saddle is saturated and primed up with oil you have to do it much less frequently
Do you have any recommendations for light oil tack? My saddle is a light color, almost caramel -- it's definitely darkened a bit with use but I'd like to keep it a lighter color, it looks really nice on my palomino. Just wondering if there are certain types of oil that is better for lighter colored tack and what works best!
I just recently purchased a used but apparently barely used Billy Royal Rough out.. I have various degrees of rough out pile noted on the saddle i.e. especially the cantle under side of cantle and ridge of cantle and horn areas ..Also I noted the leather grain behind the cantle seems to appear a little different then the other corresponding side.. Is it dryness or is it just the natural leather. Can I literally oil the entire Saddle on the Rough out side. Or does it even need it?
im not super sure what you mean in he first part- the grain will be different even on a single hide some ime- plus there could be pieces made off different hides- also the grin will be effected by the wear and tear on a given part. i believe you should oil it. it will effect the roughout some, but i see too many dry rough out saddles in my shop. they need to be oiled just like others- if not more since the core is more exposed to the elements
Its hard to say since i don't know what product in specific you are talking bout. if its a oil/conditioner compound then id say yes. but if its a soap/ oil combo i wouldn't recommend it (2 in one soap/ conditioners remind me of a 2 in one shampoo/ conditioner- its just not going to get the job done the same)
You have to just be a little careful, some of the bar soap can be very harsh and strip down the oils very aggressively. I prefer Fiebings Liquid spray soap
Question..I have a rough rough pit saddle I just purchased and was told it was barely used ..It has varying degrees of Rough out finish. Some of it appears to be very lofty or various pile to it is that normal and how would I clean that the same way as you just pictured can I oil the rough out?? Also grain differs on some areas.
Awesome video! For the Neatsfoot oil, I heard some people say to stay away from stitching since it could unravel, do you think this is likely to happen?
this is a common misconception/ there is a semi bit of truth. 1- this mostly is true when it comes to super old saddles, where alot of the times the thread is already giving up/ wearing out, the oil will lubricate the friction points and make it easier for layers to move around and will help quicken the process of threads that are already going bad 2. this can happen when you absolutely drown the saddle at which point isn't good for even the leather either. this only happens when it starts to become one part oil to one part leather BOTH instances are so incredibly rare! (the first is more common) but in my 10 years experience and 1,000s and 1,000s of saddles i've worked on. only have i seen it twice
the tack, as well as any cinches are very important. if you arent conditioning your saddle AT ALL- you want to start maintaining your sturrup leathers AT LEAST. those are the main things that hold your body weight, so at a bare minimum those are very important.
NF oil will darken you leather so if you have a darker saddle it’s fine. If you have a two ones saddle stay away from it. I use Lexol and stay away from NF because I don’t want my saddle darker. lexol does have stuff for saddle do your research don’t just go off of this video.
With my 10 years of experience- Lexol just strait up doesn't do as good of a job compared to neatsfoot in terms of peneration power, and the length of time your saddle stays "oiled" . If you like how the lexol works, and you feel confident with the product, and it makes you happy and have peace of mind - thats all that matters. Theres a product for everybody :) some people like more mild products. its good that your even maintaining your saddle at all! alot of people dont even touch it
Nice job! I have an old roughout cutting saddle that I've had since I was a kid. I'm replacing the broken original fenders on it. It's amazing how dry the under parts are. Lots of oil.
you should see some of the dry BS I see on BRAND NEW saddles!
Great video, Bryan! I like how thorough you were! I’ve subscribed and look forward to seeing more of your videos!
Awesome, thank you!
Very helpful video. Do you have a video showing how to clean - oil and condition a tooled saddle. I have a black professionally dyed tooled show saddle that could use a good oiling . Thank you
all the steps are the same, the only thing different, is you might have to brush out excess dirt from the tooling.
Thanks for the video. I've learned from the folks at Tandy Leather, the Fiebings Liquid spray saddle soap does not have any wax in it.
We use the feibings saddle soap in my shop! great product! you just need to make sure you follow it up with oil or conditioner!
Great video!!! I have a quick question.. my daughter’s saddle has more of a suede seat than a rough out seat. What do you recommend for cleaning/conditioning a suede seat?
Unfortunately there’s nothing great and specific in terms of suede. You can find “solutions” but either, you re-rough roughout, or oil/condition. Rehydrating is always your best option, but it will darken
@@themaninblackleatherstudio thank you for the input! The nice thing is, the suede on her seat is black, so darkening won’t be a problem!!! Again, thanks for the knowledge. We cleaned and oils her saddle today, and it looks great!!
Excellent!
Thank you
thank you!
Thanks for the clear instructions! Can I use the same method for English saddles? I have both.
Its exactly the same thing :)
Do you have to condition too? Or is oiling frequently sufficient?
oil is what you mainly need. you do not need to use conditioner, its for giving it a little shine, and it will hydrate the leather, however it wont penetrate like oil. oil is the sundae, conditioner is on top (you get 99%of the benefits from oil, and most people dont even check their tack, let alone service it, so i just have people focus on getting a good oil schedule
I’m sorry if I missed it but I’m new to the horse world and I was wondering how often do you oil and condition your saddle.
theres no perfect answer. i say at least 1-2 times a year. most people do it 1-2 times over 10 years. if your saddle is saturated and primed up with oil you have to do it much less frequently
Take a stiff brush to the ruff out after you oil it. It will bring the nap back out.
Do you have any recommendations for light oil tack? My saddle is a light color, almost caramel -- it's definitely darkened a bit with use but I'd like to keep it a lighter color, it looks really nice on my palomino. Just wondering if there are certain types of oil that is better for lighter colored tack and what works best!
not really. i know we like our light tack, but it comes at the expense of being properly oiled.
Love Mink oil
That’s pretty much the most hated product for most leather crafters
Very helpful thank u so much
Glad it was helpful!
I need to see how to soap & clean the saddle
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Not a big fan of Neatsfoot oil as it darkens the leather. I prefer Bee Natural Saddle Oil. You should check it out. Great stuff.
What is saddle oil? Oil from saddles??
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Thanks for doing this video it was helpful.
I just recently purchased a used but apparently barely used Billy Royal Rough out.. I have various degrees of rough out pile noted on the saddle i.e. especially the cantle under side of cantle and ridge of cantle and horn areas ..Also I noted the leather grain behind the cantle seems to appear a little different then the other corresponding side.. Is it dryness or is it just the natural leather. Can I literally oil the entire Saddle on the Rough out side. Or does it even need it?
im not super sure what you mean in he first part- the grain will be different even on a single hide some ime- plus there could be pieces made off different hides- also the grin will be effected by the wear and tear on a given part.
i believe you should oil it. it will effect the roughout some, but i see too many dry rough out saddles in my shop. they need to be oiled just like others- if not more since the core is more exposed to the elements
i have a 4 in 1 oil conditioner ect. is that ok to use?
Its hard to say since i don't know what product in specific you are talking bout. if its a oil/conditioner compound then id say yes. but if its a soap/ oil combo i wouldn't recommend it (2 in one soap/ conditioners remind me of a 2 in one shampoo/ conditioner- its just not going to get the job done the same)
Does cleaning the saddle with saddle soap(a bar) and a bit of water do more harm than good to clean the saddle before oiling it?
You have to just be a little careful, some of the bar soap can be very harsh and strip down the oils very aggressively. I prefer Fiebings Liquid spray soap
Where to buy saddle soap , oil & conditioner
on the web
Question..I have a rough rough pit saddle I just purchased and was told it was barely used ..It has varying degrees of Rough out finish. Some of it appears to be very lofty or various pile to it is that normal and how would I clean that the same way as you just pictured can I oil the rough out?? Also grain differs on some areas.
anything to help your saddle- aybe someone has a video up on youtube who explains it
Awesome video! For the Neatsfoot oil, I heard some people say to stay away from stitching since it could unravel, do you think this is likely to happen?
this is a common misconception/ there is a semi bit of truth.
1- this mostly is true when it comes to super old saddles, where alot of the times the thread is already giving up/ wearing out, the oil will lubricate the friction points and make it easier for layers to move around and will help quicken the process of threads that are already going bad
2. this can happen when you absolutely drown the saddle at which point isn't good for even the leather either. this only happens when it starts to become one part oil to one part leather
BOTH instances are so incredibly rare! (the first is more common) but in my 10 years experience and 1,000s and 1,000s of saddles i've worked on. only have i seen it twice
@@themaninblackleatherstudio Ah that makes sense. Thank you for explaining!
I only condition my tack, is that good enough to keep it safe?
the tack, as well as any cinches are very important. if you arent conditioning your saddle AT ALL- you want to start maintaining your sturrup leathers AT LEAST. those are the main things that hold your body weight, so at a bare minimum those are very important.
@@themaninblackleatherstudio okay thank you! will my saddle be okay if I only condition it and not oil it etc?
Hi,
You just wave your hand, so I couldn't see the oil brand
any neatsfoot oil will work
Utah Carrol didn’t maintain his back cinch!
The steed was that powerful lol i showed you how to maintain your leather! feel free to maintain any piece of tack you have!
NF oil will darken you leather so if you have a darker saddle it’s fine. If you have a two ones saddle stay away from it. I use Lexol and stay away from NF because I don’t want my saddle darker. lexol does have stuff for saddle do your research don’t just go off of this video.
With my 10 years of experience- Lexol just strait up doesn't do as good of a job compared to neatsfoot in terms of peneration power, and the length of time your saddle stays "oiled" .
If you like how the lexol works, and you feel confident with the product, and it makes you happy and have peace of mind - thats all that matters. Theres a product for everybody :) some people like more mild products. its good that your even maintaining your saddle at all! alot of people dont even touch it
What is rong with u taping the horn of the saddle so much it’s so agervating
Lol why continue to watch and be upset