“Don’t overthink it” is great advice for skiing tho… sometimes I just go for a whole day and don’t actively pick a single run I just go where I feel like going… its always worked out
man skiing in the us seems so shitty, "no jumpin" and ski patrol telling you what you cant do. Here in sweden it's go wherever the fuck you want as long as you ride the lift like a normal person and know what you're doing
If you go into areas that have actually difficult terrain they don’t care. They just don’t want the tourists getting hurt and not coming back because some local was sending it to hard on an easy run and plowed into them. Plus, when a run is closed it’s usually for a good reason and ski patrol does get grumpy when they see you on them.
@@JoeMa69420 that doesn’t happen though… i mean why is this never a problem in Europe? Good skiers don’t crash into you. And ski patrol should do their job leave skiers alone. You don’t need to them to tell you what you can and can not do.
@@daan260 it’s not a problem in Europe because the population is overall more intelligent than the America population. I ski in Colorado, and there are so many god damn tourists. Sometimes there will be 25+ people on the same run, and the tourists who don’t know how to ski well are extremely unpredictable. They will turn wayyyy out in front of you, they will ride out of control and hit someone else, etc. But this is why you ski the hard areas of the mountains or stay in the trees, because all the dumb tourists cannot and you can finally have some peace and quit mobbing through the woods.
Yeah bud when ski patrolman have like real actual shit to do instead of babysitting daytrippers and families and inexperienced rental riders they seem a lot more chill. Rode today in Central Wisconsin didn't see a single patrol person. Hakf the time I rode this year I didn't have my pass checked once. Apparently there's places out west that cost less to ride legit mountains than it costs to ride what amounts to a sledding hill with a chairlift here in the midwest.
Took me a second to get that joke. Europe is not quite as slack as some think. Some places it's illegal to ski the trees and I had some friends that got busted in Austria for skiing a closed avy zone.
Yeah, I agree. Where these guys in the video went under the rope is on the south boundary of JH. They have backcountry gates and a liberal out of bounds policy, but they want skiers to enter through gates only, so they can control access during high hazzard conditions and also so skiers can read the warnings when entering. Rope ducking can encourage unprepared skiers to enter and then the ski patrol may have to waste their time on rescue outside the resort.
@D2M5 It's situational in the US. If it's in bounds, they really want to make sure that it's safe and will often close off slopes until they do their due diligence. Similarly, they will often try to control skier pathing with back country gates to limit dangers involved and risk to resort infrastructure, though you can very well be skiing into an avalanche death trap anyways. The infamous Ninety Nine Ninety chair at the Canyons (now part of park city) was an excellent example of why back country gates do not imply safety. They went into some really deadly stuff (avalanche prone slopes that often dumped people into nasty terrain traps) and the chair probably facilitated ~1/4 of all Utah backcountry skiing deaths in the last 20 years. The Canyons put some ☠warnings at the gates and ignored the death toll, but Park City (which acquired the Canyons) freaked out and closed the gates permanently. I personally do not duck ropes. A ski pass costs too much for me to screw around with and we are on the verge of ski areas (which are being heavily consolidated) making things much more difficult for us to do what we once thought was normal, especially if there are too many problems with unprepared skiers on a slope.
“Don’t overthink it” is great advice for skiing tho… sometimes I just go for a whole day and don’t actively pick a single run I just go where I feel like going… its always worked out
I've been going to Jackson Hole for 12 years and thats how I always do it. I do my runs by the lift not by picking out the name of a run like a gerry
the only time I plan runs is in the backcountry or going out of the gates
Yeah, we have this thing here called liability that prevents people who overdue it from ruining everyone's fun
Reminds me of great advice from the classic movie: Better off Dead: Go that way...really, really fast! If something gets in your way....turn.
man skiing in the us seems so shitty, "no jumpin" and ski patrol telling you what you cant do. Here in sweden it's go wherever the fuck you want as long as you ride the lift like a normal person and know what you're doing
Every resort is different. The places I go have no problems with jumping and going fast and stuff.
If you go into areas that have actually difficult terrain they don’t care. They just don’t want the tourists getting hurt and not coming back because some local was sending it to hard on an easy run and plowed into them. Plus, when a run is closed it’s usually for a good reason and ski patrol does get grumpy when they see you on them.
theres also no vert or pow in sweden
@@JoeMa69420 that doesn’t happen though… i mean why is this never a problem in Europe? Good skiers don’t crash into you. And ski patrol should do their job leave skiers alone. You don’t need to them to tell you what you can and can not do.
@@daan260 it’s not a problem in Europe because the population is overall more intelligent than the America population. I ski in Colorado, and there are so many god damn tourists. Sometimes there will be 25+ people on the same run, and the tourists who don’t know how to ski well are extremely unpredictable. They will turn wayyyy out in front of you, they will ride out of control and hit someone else, etc. But this is why you ski the hard areas of the mountains or stay in the trees, because all the dumb tourists cannot and you can finally have some peace and quit mobbing through the woods.
Beautiful conditions and trees at JH.
Those were ski hosts not ski patrol
Beautiful
Yeah bud when ski patrolman have like real actual shit to do instead of babysitting daytrippers and families and inexperienced rental riders they seem a lot more chill. Rode today in Central Wisconsin didn't see a single patrol person. Hakf the time I rode this year I didn't have my pass checked once. Apparently there's places out west that cost less to ride legit mountains than it costs to ride what amounts to a sledding hill with a chairlift here in the midwest.
he's shmoked
What is with all those steel posts with rope on them. That looks like a safety hazard. Steel posts have been known to cut legs off. I hate them.
"Beauty"
I was hoping JHSP was going to bust you for ducking a rope line.
Don't duck rope lines. Bad karma.
Shut up karen
Ya do what ya gotta do
Took me a second to get that joke. Europe is not quite as slack as some think. Some places it's illegal to ski the trees and I had some friends that got busted in Austria for skiing a closed avy zone.
Yeah, I agree. Where these guys in the video went under the rope is on the south boundary of JH. They have backcountry gates and a liberal out of bounds policy, but they want skiers to enter through gates only, so they can control access during high hazzard conditions and also so skiers can read the warnings when entering. Rope ducking can encourage unprepared skiers to enter and then the ski patrol may have to waste their time on rescue outside the resort.
@D2M5 It's situational in the US. If it's in bounds, they really want to make sure that it's safe and will often close off slopes until they do their due diligence. Similarly, they will often try to control skier pathing with back country gates to limit dangers involved and risk to resort infrastructure, though you can very well be skiing into an avalanche death trap anyways.
The infamous Ninety Nine Ninety chair at the Canyons (now part of park city) was an excellent example of why back country gates do not imply safety. They went into some really deadly stuff (avalanche prone slopes that often dumped people into nasty terrain traps) and the chair probably facilitated ~1/4 of all Utah backcountry skiing deaths in the last 20 years. The Canyons put some ☠warnings at the gates and ignored the death toll, but Park City (which acquired the Canyons) freaked out and closed the gates permanently.
I personally do not duck ropes. A ski pass costs too much for me to screw around with and we are on the verge of ski areas (which are being heavily consolidated) making things much more difficult for us to do what we once thought was normal, especially if there are too many problems with unprepared skiers on a slope.