You were bombing You sprayed a beginning skier that’s disrespectful and not cool. You are not beginners go ski in a blue or black or double black! Just because you have a show doesn’t make you right. You were bombing dude! Grow up! Take a safety class!
@Evan Morozowich then they should listen and not ski fast. Broadcasting his cry baby antics is sad. Did we see him spraying the skier? No one mentions that. That is not cool to be standing and getting sprayed by a snowboarder.
Ski patrol: Yes let’s stop the experienced riders who posed no danger to anyone else while ignoring people falling and almost taking out instructors like ballistic missiles
It was a wide open run and you stayed on the sides to avoid the crowd. I wouldn't have noticed the guy walking from way over from the side either. Him walking over seemed like a hazard to downhill people, too.
Its not ski patrol. Its mountain safety. Its completely different. They’re little bitches who come out to summit county for 3 weeks and think they know the skiers safety act
Whenever a Yellow Jacket stops someone they always say you're riding out of control and too fast but if I'm out of control how did I come to a perfect stop right in front of you and lay down pencil-thin carves behind me
Definition of out of control is straight bombing no turns... says so I’m the snowsports manual and skiers responsibility code LOL I wanna go to keystone badly and fuck with them. They can’t take my cert and pass cause it’ll be given to me by management and my cert is national recognized. Ah can’t wait to piss these bees off
Just throwing this out there for everyone in the comments: The yellow jackets are not ski patrol. They are mountain safety. Ski patrol = good Mountain safety = bad
Dominic White plus avy control. Ski resorts can’t open up without the work that ski patrollers put in. Fuck yellow jackets tho fr I’m glad they don’t have them at Alta/Snowbird
Funny seeing you in the comments of a snowboard video They have mountainbiking at keystone that's actually pretty sweet. You should check it out sometime.
Back in the late 80's we would bomb top to bottom at Keysone night skiing when we got off work and had the place to ourselves. I had GS Downhill skis (220's) and ski patrol was getting pissed off they could not catch us. The Gondola guy told us that ski patrol wanted him to hold us up but he was a cool dude and was laughing about it. Ski Patrol then had the Sheriff clock us coming down River Run to the Gondola at 78 MPH and then yanked our passes for two weeks.... Sounds like Keystone hasn't changed at all... LOL!
@@Max_Snellink Tried my hardest bombing down lake louise last year on a snowboard. got to 98 km/h or 60 mph and when i got to the flat i thought i could hold it and my legs compressed so hard i just fell down. those speeds are no joke and take everything outta your legs
Me too. Ikon from here on out specifically due to the Keystone and Breck yellow jackets with similar situations to Jonathan’s as well as some other general complaints. They’re like cops that peaked in high school.
Whistler is being invaded by yellow jackets 🐝 Totally on my edges way off to the side of a groomed run and no one near me. The yellow jackets in the middle yelled at me to slow down. Well that didn’t go so well for them them because I just turned into a ungroomed run and cranked up the speed. They started chasing me but no chance for them. Vail (Vile) took over Whistler 3 years ago and it sucks now. I moved to the BC interior and ski Revelstoke and Golden. Will never ski a Vail resort again.
Jealous! He's thinking " I'm going to cool their act down". The whole think it's stupid, all those jumps. The simple fact that there's a steep slope they are inviting you to slide down, then they get mad when you do? How dumb!
@@Liberty_Freedom_Brotherhood Except that an accident in France by a skier blasting into another will not be covered by "la secu" if deemed your fault... you'll get the bill if you don''t have a personal insurance... People have had bad surprises.....
no, laughs at people who think there is no one checking and that you can ski like a loose canon on European trails (yelling "watch out" when they can't control well...)...You may get chased by patrols, staffs, or even cops.... That's why they even started to put radars more than 10 years ago because we see more and more people checking out their brain when they buy their pass, and think they can go as they want....and don't know anything about mountains news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4678806.stm
Eric Foussat lol I was at mammoth and I was following this lady about 20-30 feet behind her, and she was going super fast. There was a split in the trail and instead of going down the trail or keep going down the path, she decided to full stop. I stoped about 10- 15 feet behind her and she turned around and looked at me , if I was closed I swear she growled. There was a small taker of snow on the run and it didn’t even go up to her head, the snow went up to her waist, like the spray
I got attacked by a skier because i was going down the middle of the slope right after i got off the lift so not fast and 2 skiers from both sides of the lane carved straight into my path and stoped like 20 ft in front of me it was iced over in the middle where the stopped and i tried to stop heel edge skidded i went ass down and hands down skidding and swiped both their legs and still ended up 10ft down below them they were old old guys i ask if they were ok yes and they appolgized for stopping there and then some random guy another skier got in my face and started yelling at me it was my fault but they told him it was their fault so he huffed dont defend him and skied off to the left i asked again they said we're good so i hopped up an started down the mountain toe edge off to the right of the lane about 50yds down the hill that prick had waited on the other side and came full speed and hit my in the back so hard i did a full front flip yelled at my thats what you deserve and i was 16 i couldn't catch his 200lbs ass on long skies even though i tried that was at copper mountain CO and he was in yellow
I know some places will have "slow zones" in congested areas, but they're very clearly marked with big signs. And you probably wont get pulled up anyway as long as you're in control and not going insanely fast.
My home resort doesn't have any and doesn't care. I routinely go 70+ early in the day before the crowds arrive. At least the ski tracks app says that's how fast I'm going. I do get people on the chair lift yelling at me, but I never know what they're saying because I come and go so fast
In some areas they are, they usually have signs family zone, slow down.... I been stopped, they just told me to ride slower here, and if they stop me again they might take my pass.
I ski patrol in Minnesota sometimes on skis and sometimes on a board. Unfortunately I think occasionally there is a bias against snowboarders -yet you were clearly able to stop when someone in a yellow jacket ran out in front of your path. I plan to share your video on our patrol site. Thanks for posting.
I've gone ballistic speeds at afton and no one has ever said shit. I didn't even know slopes had speed limits other than the obviously designated slow zones.
Over the past 8 or so years I have easily recorded more days at Keystone than any other mountain. I learned to ski there when I was just a toddler -the place feels like home, BUT I have yet to have a single interaction with a yellow jacket that didn't feel like talking to a brick wall on a power trip. On top of this, a majority of the stops I have witnessed them making are similar to the one in this video - completely subjective, unnecessary, and are generally not related to safety at all!
I have no interest in going to Keystone now. Inconsistent enforcement of a policy is not only unethical but simply perceived as discriminatory. I would like to see what Dave's speed radar gun clocked you at! Wait, no radar? Eyeballing your speed was simply subjective and thus unjust. #byekeystone
Matthew Parker ur name is Karen and ur a white middle aged women who skis rentals twice a season. Go back to your two bed lodge room with ur cafe coupons Karen
Mountain Safety: "Stop" Me: "Am I being detained or am I free to go". Mountain Safety: "we need to have a chat, let me see your pass". Me: "Sorry, I lost it. Good day. I would probably just leave for a few hours or the day, maybe change my jacket. I'm not handing over my pass. But that's just me. I'm a rebel.
This is gonna blow up. I watched and you didn't appear to be going fast at all when that guy ran out and yelled. From what I can tell it really boils down to that guy who stopped you is older and probably looked at you as a young kid and played juror and judge before you got one word out. I assume as this blows up you might hear from keystone.
For real.......I'd send this clip via email to Keystone's corporate office. Make sure they see how many people are viewing it. I found this video on a website and it was reposted by a guy with the title "this is why I bought an Ikon pass"......the moment keystone catches wind of thousands of views on a post titled "buy an Ikon pass" they will definitely do something.....speak their language which is.....you guessed it 🤑💵💰💲💸💷💳💱💴💶🤑👍
Shout out to all of the Australians who come to Canada and work on our hills. You guys are chill and understanding. It sucks that people like that one guy that stopped you exist, come to Canada and shred our hills man! :)
I am a skier and snowboarders are the people that don't run into you. Most intermediate riders on skies can't stop fast enough bc they can't hockey stop that well. Snowboarders in my experience can stop on a dime.
My experience I've seen skiers get in fights with each other more than anything. I was stopped very edge of the slope on Porcupine and there were 2 other people on a slope two football fields wide and a skier still has to buzz me close by.
Snow boarders are much more dangerous due to their backside blind spot. They are less likely to see someone overtaking them on their backside and the can turn into them with out knowing they were there. Haven’t seen many boarders with great situational awareness, in fact many have headphones in and can’t hear around them.
According to every slope responsibility code I've seen, people downslope have the right of way and it's your responsibility to give them enough leeway to avoid them. It's not like skiers are looking over their shoulder upslope all the time, so they're subject to the same blindspot. Boarders are looking upslope at least half the time on their toeside carve lol
@@stevefrazier2214 Don't even start a comparison about situational awareness, man. In the rare times someone on skis looks uphill, it is usually after they have stopped in the middle of the slope or below a roller or booter.
I was out their two weeks ago with my small kids. Schoolmarm is for beginners!!! It has a lot of toppled over toddlers, adult beginners going 5 miles per hr and small classes. I have personally seen little kids get taken out and their legs broken by fast snowboarders. It’s not about you and needing an experience! Get some respect and go to the North peak and ride some open blues.
Completely agree! Schoolz isn't the place for this kind of riding. Take it on another run. Have also seen some terrible accidents on Schoolz. I can only imagine the number of beginner skiers/boarders who decided not to continue in the sport because of what happened on Schoolz. Schoolz is the most dangerous run at Keystone for this very thing and I think they are trying to fix the problem
Any good snowboarder can avoid collisions easily. Anyone who was going fast and crashed into someone else was definitely a beginner who lost control. They weren’t going any faster than the people in front of them and had total control when they were stopped.
@@kyle3625 its icy out there right now. Even an expert can loose footing on ice. Plus one could scare the kids or beginners and hurt them. Why can't we share the mountain. I don't understand why you all are so selfish. Riding should be about having fun and letting others grow to an expert level. Also johnathan is not sponsored or a professional. He is an expert rider and should behave like one. I won't reply back. Take care. Ride safe, don't live vicariously through others.
Kyle Why did you delete your other replies? You know the ones after you said you weren’t gonna reply again. It wasn’t icy when he took the video and they weren’t doing anything wrong. If you disagree then I highly suggest you watch the raw footage.
I’m a 57 year old skier, have done twenty plus years in patrol and just found your video and was thinking wow! I’m not a fan of snowboarding, I’m a two-planker, but I thought you guys were doing a nice job, impressive, showed you have skills and it’s unfortunate you had run into a “wanna be cop” on patrol. And nice to see you were still respectful.
Will they let you vlog the training Jonathan? Be great to do that then put the raw footage out there. If they don't let you, put the footage out anyway. Keep evolving man
Yellow Jackets are "mountain safety." Ski patrol is typically red and black with white medical crosses on their uniform. They are different. A lot of mountains don't even have a Mountain Safety department. Vail seems to be associated with popularizing that practice. Ski patrol is about helping people when they are hurt and making sure the terrain is safe for public. Please don't let those guys tarnish your opinions of ski patrol. We love you guys and we love what we do. We aren't in this life to take passes.
@@frotocsr yeah, we are associated with lift ops, guest services, and the admin office in the same capacity as we are mountain safety. It's not a very meaningful association as far as our day to day.
I went to the class twice still got stopped on the mountain, got my pass yanked for the season and never bought a epic pass agian. Backcountry fro about 8 years and never looked back.
Here's a question.. What's more dangerous; a clearly competent and capable snowboarder, snowboarding in control, or a kook of a dude shuffling around perpendicular to the flow of traffic and inserting his body in front of you to get you to stop for some bs reason? Here's another question.. How many Ikon passes did you just sell?
Clearly a serious abuse of authority. I didn’t see anything wrong with your speed at all, should have been a warning at worst if he wanted to say something..
Please surreptitiously video the safety class...it should be high-larious. You and your buddies always board in control and no one is in danger of sharing the slopes with you guys. Last year in early May at Breck, I as a 68 year old skier was slammed in from the rear by an out control beginner snowboarder right in front of a pair of yellowjackets. No injury, but the impact was hard enough that both of my skis were released. There was no mention of the need for a safety class for my assailant by the officials. Johnathan, keep up the great work and I hope to see you on the slopes next week when I’m in Summit County.
Johnathan Buckhosue, I am not kidding you man, I had almost the exact same thing happen to me at Eldora my first run this year. I was going down a super steep drop right before a long catwalk, since I am a boarder I had to get speed to be able to make it through the flat catwalk at the bottom. I am going down the hill, fast but in control, I come over a lip and suddenly I am greeted by 10 Ski Patrol taking up the entire catwalk practicing bringing people down in sleds. I was going pretty darn quick since this was the bottom of a steep drop and they were below a lip in front of me so I could not see them from above, so I had little time to react. I slam on the breaks, yell "look out", and ride through them without hitting anyone. They were going maybe 10 MPH at the bottom of a massive drop to a long ass catwalk, there were no signs at the top warning of this training, no Ski patrol further back asking to slow down or warning people, and no one fell down when I road past. After I got through the group I look back and there are a few of them chasing me down. They stop me, take my pass, say I was out of control, and kicked me off the mountain and said I have to take the safety class. I have been snowboarding for 10+ years, I am non-stop looking down the hill watching others and adjusting my path so I do not hurt anyone or myself, I will literally learn nothing from a 2 hour safety class. They argue I was riding out of control and not giving way to the riders down the mountain, but if I was out of control, people would have been hurt, people would have fallen, but instead I controlled my speed, adapted to the ski patrol blocking the whole path, and road past with no issue. This is 100% their fault, they should be taking the safety class, and they should know how unsafe they were being by blocking the whole cat walk. Oh and this was opening week with 5 runs open. Ski Patrol who encourage safety thought it would be safe to practice medical sleds at the bottom of the steepest drop open before the longest catwalk during opening week. Can someone explain how that is safe at all?
Keystone needs to send "Rod" back to safety school. Jonathan, I had a chance to review your unedited video of that run. "Rod" waved you down at the top of the run (from about 100 feet away). All four of you slowed down immediately (look at head direction and boards) then hit a tree line jump, passed second yellow jacket without any interaction (within 1 foot), then passed third yellow jacket without any interaction (within 5 feet) and kept proper speed to the bottom of the run where the forth yellow jacket can be seen sprint across the hill to get in front of you guys, a couple hundred yards ahead of you. "Rod" claiming you flipped him off is bullshit! He should retire. Nice job! Great post.
I was mowed down by a snowboarder on Schoolmarm and received a concussion. The snowboarder never even stopped. I am an experienced skier. A 7 year old member of our group was also knocked over by someone going too fast on Schoolmarm. I know how much fun it is to "bomb down" the mountain. But it is not safe on beginner slopes. You guys can do that on the black diamonds. Beginners do not go there.
Up until the early 90's-- before California moved there en masse-- Colorado ski hills were some of the best around and still had that wild west vibe. The last of my family left Colorado in 2019. Couldn't take it anymore.
Wow...can’t believe you guys got busted...to me, speed is not the issue, it’s control. It’s obvious you and Tommy are expert snowboarders. It’s the Jerry’s flying down the fall line that scare me. And the riders that want to sit in the middle of a run or downhill from a booter and talk about it....
I’m from Texas and have only been snowboarding 3 times in my life. So this is all super impressive to me and the only thing I can relate to is the occasional falling that I saw. Great stuff!
I agree that you all were not riding that fast but Schoolmarm is a run to avoid at Keystone. It’s filled with people that are oblivious to their surroundings and don’t have a clue how to maneuver on skis or a board. Why bother ripping down a green run synonymous with beginners level ski school? Keystone has a lot better terrain to offer with less yellow jackets in the back.
This is actually so wierd, is there actually a speed limit? You werent even going fast! In Norway im sure evry ski patrol/ slope worker would laugh their asses off watching this old man.
The clip at the end where you got told to slow down, didn’t seem like you were going particularly fast and the slope was very wide and empty. They need to go after people who go too fast through busy slopes, and passing too close, and pull over those who are obviously too fast for their ability.
The Mountain Watch are not ski patrollers. I use to snowboard at Keystone for years and ski patrol never bothered me. They are different than wanna be snow cops. Mountain Watch aka yellow jackets suck.
I don’t care if someone is a professional car driver, it doesn’t give them a pass to drive through a school zone in any manner that they choose. It’s not like there wasn’t enough terrain for these boys.
This clearly isn't a school zone Karen, this is a park, there's proffesional jumps and obstacles. This is like a race track for a racing driver. If they were bombing it down the kiddy slope, I'd understand. But they aren't.
As someone who worked as mountain safety at keystone for a year (to get the epic pass for free 😅), I completely agree with everything being said. They said that we had to give write ups everyday in order to keep our job and praised those who wrote a ton of senseless write ups like this one. Most of the squad was cool, but the leaders took the job wayyyy too seriously obviously (like the guy in this video). Our job was to maintain safety, and they took it entirely too far. They straight up told us that they make more money off the families that spend thousands to vacation there over the local season pass holders.
Keystone *mountain safety* on a power trip, trying to make some of the friendliest, most experienced, safest riders on the mountain take a class on safety. Ridiculous, never going there again.
Some of ski patrol/slope security is not the greatest and they need too calm down. I got my pass pulled because i was split up from my freeski team and I went through the ski patrol line when there was no line so I don’t see what the big deal was because I didn’t cut in front of anybody in the line. And the guy grabbed me by the shoulder and pulled me off to the base of the mountain which I think is totally unnecessary to be doing this to a 13 year old who was split up from his team.
Just out of curiosity - did you get it pulled for going to fast or being confrontational? Agree that being able to stop in control is 90%. Buuuut it is called Schoolmarm. Maybe better places to be ripping and flipping?
They were all wearing mittens none of them flipped anyone off that girl just str8 up lied than blamed her co workers lmao if I was on that team I'd be pissed
In 2017 some friends and I also had our passes nabbed at Keystone by a yellow coat. Luckily, we went to the office by Peru lift and the head yellow was super understanding and reactivated us. Crazy how much that place has changed in the past 10 years
one poor interaction does not mean all of patrol are doing an horrible job. Stop spitting out non senc, you probably wouldn't stand a chance working one day
Zach Kuhn Well ok. I meant the horrible job they did in this particular instance, im not saying they are always doing a horrible job, hence why he should be reported for lazy punishment. But mountain safety, and ski patrol is not that hard dont pretend its some crazy job.
Was up there last weekend too. Stupidly crowded. And I saw more than a few people carted off in the ambulance (one I think might have died at river run) and that put ski patrol and mountain safety on edge. I stayed off schoolmarm and stuck to Frenchman, WI, and Paymaster. Curious why you didn’t end it going down Go Devil?
Same, because time to time I am going at the edge of the slope pretty fast, but not causing the danger to others. Never hit anybody due fast riding, but I met some people hidden under the jumps/horizon...
The point is...green slopes aren’t meant for speed since that’s where all the rookies are. Being an expert rider doesn’t mean you can fly down green slopes.
People sue the resorts and insurance suggests that they have that type of enforcement to make it "safer" and reduce liability. People need to be accountable, if you choose to do snow sports and you get hurt that is on you.
I was Epic pass for 4 years until I finally saw the light and went Ikon. Just spent a day at Copper, 2 at Snowmass, and 1 at WP cruising down runs at 40+ mph. Never once did someone tell us to slow down. Epic caters to money, not skiers and riders.
Damn, when I went out to Colorado the first thing I noticed is that there’s “no jumping, no straightlining, slow down” signs everywhere with ski patrol guarding them and I never understood why. At my much smaller home resort as long as your not going to a speed endangering other people, then you won’t get stopped. Johnathan and Benton weren’t evening going that fast, everyone else was just going a moderate speed.
That slope is billed as "family learning slope" where you "learn at your speed" that's why. I just avoided that entire peak and mostly rode the 2nd and 3rd peaks
Maybe this is a d-bag way to approach to the problem, but what would stop me from refusing to give them my pass and walking/skiing to the parking lot? They aren't real cops and can't detain you no?
@@hipnola could they even run your plate though if you're not under suspicion of something criminal? Or maybe just go to the bus stop and wait till they give up?
Dude it is posted all over Schoolmarm with all the merging trails to go slow. There isn't a more busy beginner area in all of Summit County than Schoolmarm so why are you shocked you got in trouble for going too fast? There are plenty of blacks and even blues with not much traffic where you won't have any issues from the resort for going fast. Don't go flying down a run that is packed with beginners and you won't have any issues..
I used to be ski patrol on marmot basin a very popular mountain where I’m from and the only time you’d get your pass pulled for going fast was if you’re constantly flying past the slow signs and you’ve been warned but you were never forced to take a class that’s ridiculous
Check out the raw video with Mountain safety here: th-cam.com/video/ES4129d6feQ/w-d-xo.html
Johnathan Buckhouse bro I’m in keystone rn, can we PLEASE meet up tmrw/tonight?
At my mountain they be telling you dont do that
But they dont care
You were bombing
You sprayed a beginning skier that’s disrespectful and not cool.
You are not beginners go ski in a blue or black or double black! Just because you have a show doesn’t make you right.
You were bombing dude! Grow up! Take a safety class!
@@bridgetgoldthwait2411 yeah...exactly
@Evan Morozowich then they should listen and not ski fast. Broadcasting his cry baby antics is sad. Did we see him spraying the skier? No one mentions that. That is not cool to be standing and getting sprayed by a snowboarder.
Ski patrol: Yes let’s stop the experienced riders who posed no danger to anyone else while ignoring people falling and almost taking out instructors like ballistic missiles
Lucas Smith 🤣😂
Very true
It was a wide open run and you stayed on the sides to avoid the crowd. I wouldn't have noticed the guy walking from way over from the side either. Him walking over seemed like a hazard to downhill people, too.
Preach
Its not ski patrol. Its mountain safety. Its completely different. They’re little bitches who come out to summit county for 3 weeks and think they know the skiers safety act
Whenever a Yellow Jacket stops someone they always say you're riding out of control and too fast but if I'm out of control how did I come to a perfect stop right in front of you and lay down pencil-thin carves behind me
OfficialDinorex exactly
What the hell class do they make you take? I’m from the North East and never heard of anything like this.
crazylegs31 its like when you get pulled over in rl and they make you take a test
Definition of out of control is straight bombing no turns... says so I’m the snowsports manual and skiers responsibility code LOL I wanna go to keystone badly and fuck with them. They can’t take my cert and pass cause it’ll be given to me by management and my cert is national recognized. Ah can’t wait to piss these bees off
lmaooo
Just throwing this out there for everyone in the comments:
The yellow jackets are not ski patrol. They are mountain safety.
Ski patrol = good
Mountain safety = bad
Raijin This 💯
yaaaa not a fan of all the ski patrol hate.... yellow jackets are the assholes, ski patrol gets you off the mountain when youre injured
Exactly. Basically rent a cops on the hill
Not many honestly lol
Dominic White plus avy control. Ski resorts can’t open up without the work that ski patrollers put in. Fuck yellow jackets tho fr I’m glad they don’t have them at Alta/Snowbird
"You're going way to fast, it's not safe." - A yellow jaket who runs out in front people
"I don't have a pass, I hiked up the mountain"
Not the worst idea
Don't stop. I stopped once. Once
@@TheSlightlySlanted hard not to stop when your the only 4 guys on the mountain
@@Astrojamus which begs the question why speeding is an issue 🤔
@@Paul2523 prolly cause he has his panties in a bunch
Cool, definitely not going there.
What till you see today’s video 🤯 it’s the raw footage
Funny seeing you in the comments of a snowboard video They have mountainbiking at keystone that's actually pretty sweet. You should check it out sometime.
snowakeclimber came across that video randomly, and the snowboarder and a good attitude. I defend him.
To Remy. You could spread the word for example share this video in your TH-cam wall :/ This needs to go viral ASAP!
I’m from Missouri and I’ve been there before trust me it’s not all they make it to be. Definitely go to Vail or Breckenridge
Back in the late 80's we would bomb top to bottom at Keysone night skiing when we got off work and had the place to ourselves. I had GS Downhill skis (220's) and ski patrol was getting pissed off they could not catch us. The Gondola guy told us that ski patrol wanted him to hold us up but he was a cool dude and was laughing about it. Ski Patrol then had the Sheriff clock us coming down River Run to the Gondola at 78 MPH and then yanked our passes for two weeks.... Sounds like Keystone hasn't changed at all... LOL!
78mph that's going some!!! My clothes stop me at 60mph...too much flap 😂
@@Max_Snellink full tuck with legs screaming
@@tcgregory7693 haha I bet... Snowboarding above 50mph on a not so smooth piste is insane. Shred hard bro!
Dude you are savage
@@Max_Snellink Tried my hardest bombing down lake louise last year on a snowboard. got to 98 km/h or 60 mph and when i got to the flat i thought i could hold it and my legs compressed so hard i just fell down. those speeds are no joke and take everything outta your legs
Keystone's YELLOW JACKETS are the REASON I bought the Ikon pass. Corporate is slowly killing that mountain. Copper Mtn take my money!
Me too. Ikon from here on out specifically due to the Keystone and Breck yellow jackets with similar situations to Jonathan’s as well as some other general complaints. They’re like cops that peaked in high school.
Was just at copper today..dope spot but traffic can be a bitch
Whistler is being invaded by yellow jackets 🐝
Totally on my edges way off to the side of a groomed run and no one near me. The yellow jackets in the middle yelled at me to slow down.
Well that didn’t go so well for them them because I just turned into a ungroomed run and cranked up the speed. They started chasing me but no chance for them. Vail (Vile) took over Whistler 3 years ago and it sucks now.
I moved to the BC interior and ski Revelstoke and Golden. Will never ski a Vail resort again.
Was at copper all over New Years so much better as long as u stay at center and east
main reason why i left vail too, hated the being all corporate, also yellowjackets are just wannabe ski patrolers.
Them: Back flipping and sending 360’s in the park and buttering rails
Safety patrol: Ah yes completely out of control
When they were stopped, they were on a green run.
Jealous! He's thinking " I'm going to cool their act down". The whole think it's stupid, all those jumps. The simple fact that there's a steep slope they are inviting you to slide down, then they get mad when you do? How dumb!
“Laughs in european where there is litteraly no one checking any trails”
pim genee it’s mostly the wide open spaces.
A Jeep and some snow here in BC Canada can make for a snowboarding trip + a wheeling trip only 30 minutes away.
Europeans don’t have litigation as a national sport through.
@@Liberty_Freedom_Brotherhood Except that an accident in France by a skier blasting into another will not be covered by "la secu" if deemed your fault... you'll get the bill if you don''t have a personal insurance... People have had bad surprises.....
no, laughs at people who think there is no one checking and that you can ski like a loose canon on European trails (yelling "watch out" when they can't control well...)...You may get chased by patrols, staffs, or even cops.... That's why they even started to put radars more than 10 years ago because we see more and more people checking out their brain when they buy their pass, and think they can go as they want....and don't know anything about mountains news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4678806.stm
Can we get a safety class for skiers that stop in the middle of the run?
Eric Foussat and snowboarders too! #equaility
Eric Foussat lol I was at mammoth and I was following this lady about 20-30 feet behind her, and she was going super fast. There was a split in the trail and instead of going down the trail or keep going down the path, she decided to full stop. I stoped about 10- 15 feet behind her and she turned around and looked at me , if I was closed I swear she growled. There was a small taker of snow on the run and it didn’t even go up to her head, the snow went up to her waist, like the spray
@@pyrorupt7036 don't tailgate at mammoth....she can probably stop faster than you...
@@pyrorupt7036 why you following so close?
I got attacked by a skier because i was going down the middle of the slope right after i got off the lift so not fast and 2 skiers from both sides of the lane carved straight into my path and stoped like 20 ft in front of me it was iced over in the middle where the stopped and i tried to stop heel edge skidded i went ass down and hands down skidding and swiped both their legs and still ended up 10ft down below them they were old old guys i ask if they were ok yes and they appolgized for stopping there and then some random guy another skier got in my face and started yelling at me it was my fault but they told him it was their fault so he huffed dont defend him and skied off to the left i asked again they said we're good so i hopped up an started down the mountain toe edge off to the right of the lane about 50yds down the hill that prick had waited on the other side and came full speed and hit my in the back so hard i did a full front flip yelled at my thats what you deserve and i was 16 i couldn't catch his 200lbs ass on long skies even though i tried that was at copper mountain CO and he was in yellow
Video the safety class. It probably will be a hoot.
Oh gosh 😂
I highly doubt they will allow that lol Funny idea!
@@JohnathanBuckhouse i am now from the states, so not sure about the law there, but can you use hidden camera..??haha
Johnathan Buckhouse Don’t ask if they allow it then. Just film. You’ll find out soon enough. Lol
Just slap a gopro on your head Buckhouse..
Best part is they were going the same speed as almost everyone else
Right 🤣😂
I've never heard of the slopes having a speed limit..
Nick Giuseppetti it’s Vail Corporation at all their resorts.
I know some places will have "slow zones" in congested areas, but they're very clearly marked with big signs. And you probably wont get pulled up anyway as long as you're in control and not going insanely fast.
My home resort doesn't have any and doesn't care. I routinely go 70+ early in the day before the crowds arrive. At least the ski tracks app says that's how fast I'm going. I do get people on the chair lift yelling at me, but I never know what they're saying because I come and go so fast
In some areas they are, they usually have signs family zone, slow down.... I been stopped, they just told me to ride slower here, and if they stop me again they might take my pass.
Resorts I've been to typically don't care unless you are on a run populated by a lot of beginners or are not in control.
There should be a group of tubers dedicated to making videos about trolling the yellow coats. I'd rewatch that shit everyday.
I ski patrol in Minnesota sometimes on skis and sometimes on a board. Unfortunately I think occasionally there is a bias against snowboarders -yet you were clearly able to stop when someone in a yellow jacket ran out in front of your path. I plan to share your video on our patrol site. Thanks for posting.
Forest Lake? #freebuckhouse #freetherawfootage
Welch, buck, Afton?
I've gone ballistic speeds at afton and no one has ever said shit. I didn't even know slopes had speed limits other than the obviously designated slow zones.
don't bag on ski patrol, thats not ski patrol, ski patrol has red vests thats mountain safety AKA the yellow jackets. They suck
Over the past 8 or so years I have easily recorded more days at Keystone than any other mountain. I learned to ski there when I was just a toddler -the place feels like home, BUT I have yet to have a single interaction with a yellow jacket that didn't feel like talking to a brick wall on a power trip. On top of this, a majority of the stops I have witnessed them making are similar to the one in this video - completely subjective, unnecessary, and are generally not related to safety at all!
I've never had an interaction ever. On any mountain. But I love to watch you whine.
Y’all weren’t even sending it! That was some light cruising. That croney got bored and decided it was time to power trip. What a shitter.
Right!
10:29
Rider in the Blue Pants had it sorted.
"I see nothing. I hear nothing, I keep going"
he 100% heard too lol
And then he comes back at 11:29 😂
@@gotedits8747 lmao good eyes
"sorry i'm out of control. I can't stop" :D
@@gotedits8747 hahah i didn’t even notice that, that’s amazing
at 10:29 though when he was trying to stop that beginner snowboarder that was going turtle speed was the icing on the cake.
LOL
Heeeeee, youoooooo snowboarder
I have no interest in going to Keystone now. Inconsistent enforcement of a policy is not only unethical but simply perceived as discriminatory. I would like to see what Dave's speed radar gun clocked you at! Wait, no radar? Eyeballing your speed was simply subjective and thus unjust. #byekeystone
@Matthew Parker ok jerry
Matthew Parker yeah he was going real fast...
Matthew Parker ur name is Karen and ur a white middle aged women who skis rentals twice a season. Go back to your two bed lodge room with ur cafe coupons Karen
Thanks Doctor Giffen, good to hear from an expert in hospitality.
Matthew Parker someone is a bad skier
Lmao Keystone disabled comments on their instagram
boaksls I saw the same thing. Disappointing since they were enjoyable to read. Haha #freebuckhouse
Then comment on vails
Vail did too lol
In facebook they are also deleting comments.. Luckily there are plenty of us!
Whelp, i'll take Keystone off my list.
Mountain Safety: "Stop"
Me: "Am I being detained or am I free to go".
Mountain Safety: "we need to have a chat, let me see your pass".
Me: "Sorry, I lost it. Good day.
I would probably just leave for a few hours or the day, maybe change my jacket. I'm not handing over my pass. But that's just me. I'm a rebel.
late but they’re not cops, they can’t make you do anything if you just walk off their property
This is gonna blow up.
I watched and you didn't appear to be going fast at all when that guy ran out and yelled.
From what I can tell it really boils down to that guy who stopped you is older and probably looked at you as a young kid and played juror and judge before you got one word out.
I assume as this blows up you might hear from keystone.
Sean Ozz 🙏🏼
Yooooo
@@JohnathanBuckhouse do you plan on showing Keystone your video evidence? I mean this is crazy and they must be held accountable at some point.
For real.......I'd send this clip via email to Keystone's corporate office. Make sure they see how many people are viewing it. I found this video on a website and it was reposted by a guy with the title "this is why I bought an Ikon pass"......the moment keystone catches wind of thousands of views on a post titled "buy an Ikon pass" they will definitely do something.....speak their language which is.....you guessed it 🤑💵💰💲💸💷💳💱💴💶🤑👍
@@JesusNOTreLIEgion keystones seen this. Not sure their thoughts yet but this isn't how one should treat their customers by any means.
How did you flip off the ski patrol when you wear mittens 🤷♂️
Literally my first thought 😂😂
Haha so true! Not possible!
Even if he was flipping them off in his mitts, prove it!😆
give the big one, use your whole hand, dude!
This has nothing to do with ski patrol
He tried yelling the less skilled rider too the right as well, until he realized he was learning. Just calling out any and all snowboarders he sees??
the fact that he did this show how all he wanted to do was ruin some snowboarders day.
*Comes and calls my noob ass out doing falling leaf on the bunny slope.* "You're being reckless and going too fast"
Shout out to all of the Australians who come to Canada and work on our hills. You guys are chill and understanding. It sucks that people like that one guy that stopped you exist, come to Canada and shred our hills man! :)
Just look them in the face and say "catch me if u can, ill be wearing a different color jacket everyday" and then speed off.
I am a skier and snowboarders are the people that don't run into you. Most intermediate riders on skies can't stop fast enough bc they can't hockey stop that well. Snowboarders in my experience can stop on a dime.
Very fair comment Daniels. Enjoy your season
My experience I've seen skiers get in fights with each other more than anything. I was stopped very edge of the slope on Porcupine and there were 2 other people on a slope two football fields wide and a skier still has to buzz me close by.
Snow boarders are much more dangerous due to their backside blind spot. They are less likely to see someone overtaking them on their backside and the can turn into them with out knowing they were there. Haven’t seen many boarders with great situational awareness, in fact many have headphones in and can’t hear around them.
According to every slope responsibility code I've seen, people downslope have the right of way and it's your responsibility to give them enough leeway to avoid them. It's not like skiers are looking over their shoulder upslope all the time, so they're subject to the same blindspot. Boarders are looking upslope at least half the time on their toeside carve lol
@@stevefrazier2214 Don't even start a comparison about situational awareness, man. In the rare times someone on skis looks uphill, it is usually after they have stopped in the middle of the slope or below a roller or booter.
is it just me or is running out in front of riders on a run like that not totally unsafe? I'm from Canada and have never once seen this
exactly. I also feel like if he really thought he/they were going that fast, or were that out of control, he wouldn’t of done that.
@@jamisonandrewmanhorvaththe1124 imagine if they were actually out of control and just plowed right through that old brainless geezer. Hahahaha
I was out their two weeks ago with my small kids. Schoolmarm is for beginners!!! It has a lot of toppled over toddlers, adult beginners going 5 miles per hr and small classes. I have personally seen little kids get taken out and their legs broken by fast snowboarders. It’s not about you and needing an experience! Get some respect and go to the North peak and ride some open blues.
Amen.
Completely agree! Schoolz isn't the place for this kind of riding. Take it on another run. Have also seen some terrible accidents on Schoolz. I can only imagine the number of beginner skiers/boarders who decided not to continue in the sport because of what happened on Schoolz. Schoolz is the most dangerous run at Keystone for this very thing and I think they are trying to fix the problem
Any good snowboarder can avoid collisions easily. Anyone who was going fast and crashed into someone else was definitely a beginner who lost control. They weren’t going any faster than the people in front of them and had total control when they were stopped.
@@kyle3625 its icy out there right now. Even an expert can loose footing on ice. Plus one could scare the kids or beginners and hurt them. Why can't we share the mountain. I don't understand why you all are so selfish. Riding should be about having fun and letting others grow to an expert level. Also johnathan is not sponsored or a professional. He is an expert rider and should behave like one. I won't reply back. Take care. Ride safe, don't live vicariously through others.
Kyle Why did you delete your other replies? You know the ones after you said you weren’t gonna reply again. It wasn’t icy when he took the video and they weren’t doing anything wrong. If you disagree then I highly suggest you watch the raw footage.
I live in Europe and in the last 9 years going on wintersport (Austria) I've never witnessed such a thing before.
Trust me, most Americans have no idea what’s going on.
Don't Ski at EPIC pass places near I-70 in Colorado.
They only want doctors who don't know how to ski. ^_^
I’m a 57 year old skier, have done twenty plus years in patrol and just found your video and was thinking wow! I’m not a fan of snowboarding, I’m a two-planker, but I thought you guys were doing a nice job, impressive, showed you have skills and it’s unfortunate you had run into a “wanna be cop” on patrol. And nice to see you were still respectful.
Thank you 🙏🏼
Ski patrol: slow down your having too much fun. Jonathan: WTF
Kyung Kim805 🤣😂
Right wtf
Mountain Safety department is not ski patrol.
You're*, and it's not ski patrol, it's the yellow vests. "Mountain safety" as they call themselves
You guys don’t even know, if you actually saw the raw footage you would lose your mind on how yellow jackets actually treated Johnathan.😂
Bobbie Buckhouse was it bad?
when is the uncut version gonna be released??
If only they could release... the raw footage. But it's too raw for prime time.
Will they let you vlog the training Jonathan? Be great to do that then put the raw footage out there. If they don't let you, put the footage out anyway.
Keep evolving man
Bobby. When I watched it I got seriously pissed. From the footage I think they were looking for different people or they are just completely ignorant.
Yellow Jackets are "mountain safety."
Ski patrol is typically red and black with white medical crosses on their uniform. They are different. A lot of mountains don't even have a Mountain Safety department. Vail seems to be associated with popularizing that practice. Ski patrol is about helping people when they are hurt and making sure the terrain is safe for public. Please don't let those guys tarnish your opinions of ski patrol. We love you guys and we love what we do. We aren't in this life to take passes.
Christian Spencer we love you back! but unfortunately you’re associated with them.
@@frotocsr yeah, we are associated with lift ops, guest services, and the admin office in the same capacity as we are mountain safety. It's not a very meaningful association as far as our day to day.
Christian Spencer I completely agree. But it’s true. I love ski patrol but Keystone as a whole looks a certain way to a lot of people now.
@@cspencer71007
Well said, words out of my mouth.
Marc T: Don't paint with a broad brush.
I went to the class twice still got stopped on the mountain, got my pass yanked for the season and never bought a epic pass agian. Backcountry fro about 8 years and never looked back.
No point in arguing. Proving a point has never had the arguer go “oh you’re right, I’m not mad anymore!” Just board pass them
Here's a question.. What's more dangerous; a clearly competent and capable snowboarder, snowboarding in control, or a kook of a dude shuffling around perpendicular to the flow of traffic and inserting his body in front of you to get you to stop for some bs reason?
Here's another question.. How many Ikon passes did you just sell?
Clearly a serious abuse of authority. I didn’t see anything wrong with your speed at all, should have been a warning at worst if he wanted to say something..
legit moderate speed, not fast at all
He should have just taken off
Please surreptitiously video the safety class...it should be high-larious. You and your buddies always board in control and no one is in danger of sharing the slopes with you guys. Last year in early May at Breck, I as a 68 year old skier was slammed in from the rear by an out control beginner snowboarder right in front of a pair of yellowjackets. No injury, but the impact was hard enough that both of my skis were released. There was no mention of the need for a safety class for my assailant by the officials. Johnathan, keep up the great work and I hope to see you on the slopes next week when I’m in Summit County.
Me having never been on a mountain a day in my life: interesting 🤨
You should go! They are fun
Johnathan Buckhosue, I am not kidding you man, I had almost the exact same thing happen to me at Eldora my first run this year. I was going down a super steep drop right before a long catwalk, since I am a boarder I had to get speed to be able to make it through the flat catwalk at the bottom. I am going down the hill, fast but in control, I come over a lip and suddenly I am greeted by 10 Ski Patrol taking up the entire catwalk practicing bringing people down in sleds. I was going pretty darn quick since this was the bottom of a steep drop and they were below a lip in front of me so I could not see them from above, so I had little time to react. I slam on the breaks, yell "look out", and ride through them without hitting anyone. They were going maybe 10 MPH at the bottom of a massive drop to a long ass catwalk, there were no signs at the top warning of this training, no Ski patrol further back asking to slow down or warning people, and no one fell down when I road past. After I got through the group I look back and there are a few of them chasing me down. They stop me, take my pass, say I was out of control, and kicked me off the mountain and said I have to take the safety class. I have been snowboarding for 10+ years, I am non-stop looking down the hill watching others and adjusting my path so I do not hurt anyone or myself, I will literally learn nothing from a 2 hour safety class. They argue I was riding out of control and not giving way to the riders down the mountain, but if I was out of control, people would have been hurt, people would have fallen, but instead I controlled my speed, adapted to the ski patrol blocking the whole path, and road past with no issue. This is 100% their fault, they should be taking the safety class, and they should know how unsafe they were being by blocking the whole cat walk. Oh and this was opening week with 5 runs open. Ski Patrol who encourage safety thought it would be safe to practice medical sleds at the bottom of the steepest drop open before the longest catwalk during opening week. Can someone explain how that is safe at all?
Keystone needs to send "Rod" back to safety school. Jonathan, I had a chance to review your unedited video of that run. "Rod" waved you down at the top of the run (from about 100 feet away). All four of you slowed down immediately (look at head direction and boards) then hit a tree line jump, passed second yellow jacket without any interaction (within 1 foot), then passed third yellow jacket without any interaction (within 5 feet) and kept proper speed to the bottom of the run where the forth yellow jacket can be seen sprint across the hill to get in front of you guys, a couple hundred yards ahead of you. "Rod" claiming you flipped him off is bullshit! He should retire. Nice job! Great post.
It's a police state
Where did you see the raw footage? Love to see it
I agree 100%
I think I will need to bring my lawyer if I am riding in Keystone
You're literally just boarding down the mountain. I was expecting some gnarly kamikaze bomber run but nope. Keystone lost my business.
I was mowed down by a snowboarder on Schoolmarm and received a concussion. The snowboarder never even stopped. I am an experienced skier. A 7 year old member of our group was also knocked over by someone going too fast on Schoolmarm.
I know how much fun it is to "bomb down" the mountain. But it is not safe on beginner slopes. You guys can do that on the black diamonds. Beginners do not go there.
Up until the early 90's-- before California moved there en masse-- Colorado ski hills were some of the best around and still had that wild west vibe. The last of my family left Colorado in 2019. Couldn't take it anymore.
I love that during the whole conversation, people (read as "skiers") are going past in the background faster than they were going.
I’ve had some stupid run ins with keystone staff as well. Probably the stingiest staff I’ve encountered on a CO mountain
Jorge c yo same they yelled at me for hill bombing and I’ve been snowboarding for 13 years 😂
Wow...can’t believe you guys got busted...to me, speed is not the issue, it’s control. It’s obvious you and Tommy are expert snowboarders. It’s the Jerry’s flying down the fall line that scare me. And the riders that want to sit in the middle of a run or downhill from a booter and talk about it....
I’m from Texas and have only been snowboarding 3 times in my life. So this is all super impressive to me and the only thing I can relate to is the occasional falling that I saw. Great stuff!
I’ll keep going to Copper for the time being, Keystone lost my business a long tome ago.
I agree that you all were not riding that fast but Schoolmarm is a run to avoid at Keystone. It’s filled with people that are oblivious to their surroundings and don’t have a clue how to maneuver on skis or a board. Why bother ripping down a green run synonymous with beginners level ski school? Keystone has a lot better terrain to offer with less yellow jackets in the back.
It’s just ridiculous because they make it a connecting run for the parks
10:27 starts the show
Everyone should Go on keystone ig and just spam them
EVERYONE YES PLEASE
@@thesaltydawg8386 I'll do that now.
On it
They removed all the comments on their IG and made it so no one can post comments. I think we sent a message
Just added my 2 cents #FreeBuckhouse
This is actually so wierd, is there actually a speed limit? You werent even going fast! In Norway im sure evry ski patrol/ slope worker would laugh their asses off watching this old man.
Imagine there being people on the mountain that can take your pass...
The clip at the end where you got told to slow down, didn’t seem like you were going particularly fast and the slope was very wide and empty. They need to go after people who go too fast through busy slopes, and passing too close, and pull over those who are obviously too fast for their ability.
I’ve heard a lot of people say that the ski patrol at Keystone his way aggressive!
The Mountain Watch are not ski patrollers. I use to snowboard at Keystone for years and ski patrol never bothered me. They are different than wanna be snow cops. Mountain Watch aka yellow jackets suck.
Have never personally had an issue with them but i ride the trees on north peak and outback
Snowbyrdie that’s the trend.
Soluminia0G Yes, because you’re riding in an area that’s not for beginners!
Patrol at keystone is heavy. Cant have too much fun gotta keep it friendly lol
WHen he stopped you guys he started waving at a random guy in blue pants, the guy didn't even hear him and just rode away lmfao.
Oh he heard, had better things to do
I don’t care if someone is a professional car driver, it doesn’t give them a pass to drive through a school zone in any manner that they choose. It’s not like there wasn’t enough terrain for these boys.
This clearly isn't a school zone Karen, this is a park, there's proffesional jumps and obstacles. This is like a race track for a racing driver. If they were bombing it down the kiddy slope, I'd understand. But they aren't.
As someone who worked as mountain safety at keystone for a year (to get the epic pass for free 😅), I completely agree with everything being said. They said that we had to give write ups everyday in order to keep our job and praised those who wrote a ton of senseless write ups like this one. Most of the squad was cool, but the leaders took the job wayyyy too seriously obviously (like the guy in this video). Our job was to maintain safety, and they took it entirely too far. They straight up told us that they make more money off the families that spend thousands to vacation there over the local season pass holders.
Thanks for the insight.
Keystone *mountain safety* on a power trip, trying to make some of the friendliest, most experienced, safest riders on the mountain take a class on safety. Ridiculous, never going there again.
Mountain safety.
Red coats are patrol they actually help prople
As former patroller of Cooper and the Basin you are sadly mistaken.
We’ve been told to slow down on schoolmarm several times but they are always really cool about it, sucks you got ‘that guy’
Videos like this make me seriously rethink what mountain I'm going to next time out west keystone needs to pick there act up
Kinda makes me wanna go there and just smash it as fast as I can straight to my car 😆
No offense Johnathan but Ben is the main reason I watch your videos. Not saying I'm not here for you dude, he just does insane stuff!
Some of ski patrol/slope security is not the greatest and they need too calm down. I got my pass pulled because i was split up from my freeski team and I went through the ski patrol line when there was no line so I don’t see what the big deal was because I didn’t cut in front of anybody in the line. And the guy grabbed me by the shoulder and pulled me off to the base of the mountain which I think is totally unnecessary to be doing this to a 13 year old who was split up from his team.
“Hey you! SNOWBOARDER!!!” 🧐
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Schoolmarm is an ultra beginner run. Take the class and enjoy a mocha from Inxpot and chillax.
Watched the raw video too, you guys handled yourself well. The female definitely knew they were in the wrong once the footage was brought up.
10:30 for anyone who just wants the title bit lmao
That's terrible. They need to give a warning before they pull passes. Also, no one got hurt with your riding so what's the issue?
Tenshi Hayashi to stamp a mark on the pass.
Just out of curiosity - did you get it pulled for going to fast or being confrontational? Agree that being able to stop in control is 90%. Buuuut it is called Schoolmarm. Maybe better places to be ripping and flipping?
This...it is the beginner run....rip elsewhere on the mountain. If you are all that why are you on that run? Sheesh...
@@awiegwa green is "easiest"...
Just because it's a beginner run, doesn't mean you can't try out advanced techniques. In fact that is the ideal inviroment for experimenting.
They were all wearing mittens none of them flipped anyone off that girl just str8 up lied than blamed her co workers lmao if I was on that team I'd be pissed
awiegwa dude would you rather practicing 360s on a uncut trail with 100 something feet of snow or a relatively flat environment u dumb
We need a benton backflip counter 😂
TheLordourGod yes please 🙌🏼
In 2017 some friends and I also had our passes nabbed at Keystone by a yellow coat. Luckily, we went to the office by Peru lift and the head yellow was super understanding and reactivated us. Crazy how much that place has changed in the past 10 years
This dudes lines are so clean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You should dispute that, and report the horrible job the patrol are doing. You literally have video evidence.
one poor interaction does not mean all of patrol are doing an horrible job. Stop spitting out non senc, you probably wouldn't stand a chance working one day
Zach Kuhn Well ok. I meant the horrible job they did in this particular instance, im not saying they are always doing a horrible job, hence why he should be reported for lazy punishment. But mountain safety, and ski patrol is not that hard dont pretend its some crazy job.
Zach Kuhn and mountain safety is literally one of the easiest jobs on the mountain.
Was up there last weekend too. Stupidly crowded. And I saw more than a few people carted off in the ambulance (one I think might have died at river run) and that put ski patrol and mountain safety on edge. I stayed off schoolmarm and stuck to Frenchman, WI, and Paymaster. Curious why you didn’t end it going down Go Devil?
I am so glad that something like skipatrol doesn't exist in Europe lol
Same, because time to time I am going at the edge of the slope pretty fast, but not causing the danger to others. Never hit anybody due fast riding, but I met some people hidden under the jumps/horizon...
Europe does have ski patrol "Bergwacht." They don't have yellow jackets "guest services," though.
Just another over micro management of the American people, it is all too common here.
Europe has ski patrol numbnuts
@@harkenm they wont give you tickets
There are no rules in the slopes. Just common sense. You obviously have it. And a class is the most insane thing I’ve ever heard.
Never saw you guys out of control at any time. Thanks for all the work you put into the vid.
The point is...green slopes aren’t meant for speed since that’s where all the rookies are. Being an expert rider doesn’t mean you can fly down green slopes.
@keystone Yall better make up for this mistake. NOT JUSTIFIED AT ALL
utellem!
@@evchamo2 3 Times!
@VailResorts
People sue the resorts and insurance suggests that they have that type of enforcement to make it "safer" and reduce liability. People need to be accountable, if you choose to do snow sports and you get hurt that is on you.
I was Epic pass for 4 years until I finally saw the light and went Ikon. Just spent a day at Copper, 2 at Snowmass, and 1 at WP cruising down runs at 40+ mph. Never once did someone tell us to slow down. Epic caters to money, not skiers and riders.
Damn, when I went out to Colorado the first thing I noticed is that there’s “no jumping, no straightlining, slow down” signs everywhere with ski patrol guarding them and I never understood why. At my much smaller home resort as long as your not going to a speed endangering other people, then you won’t get stopped. Johnathan and Benton weren’t evening going that fast, everyone else was just going a moderate speed.
It's mountain safety not ski patrol. Ski patrol are mountain medics.
Billy Hayes oh well at my resort ski patrol does both
Ski patrol doesn't bother anyone at mine and we don't have mountain safety either.
That slope is billed as "family learning slope" where you "learn at your speed" that's why. I just avoided that entire peak and mostly rode the 2nd and 3rd peaks
Maybe this is a d-bag way to approach to the problem, but what would stop me from refusing to give them my pass and walking/skiing to the parking lot? They aren't real cops and can't detain you no?
I thought about that too. Maybe they can follow you to your car and take down your license plate? That's all I can think of. Or just keep going lol
@@hipnola could they even run your plate though if you're not under suspicion of something criminal? Or maybe just go to the bus stop and wait till they give up?
@@BailsofGlass hmm, good point! I feel like they really can't do anything at all
Come to aspen there’s no lines and 98 percent of all four mountains terrain open!
yeah but hotel prices...
PhaseSkater so true
Stay in Glenwood springs. 45 min from aspen and hotels are 65 a night
highoutput bob is there free parking in aspen for people driving in though?
Yeah aspen has huge free garages in town for skiiers then take the bus to whatever mountain you plan to shred
I came to see the pass situation
I stayed for the sick tricks that I'll never be able to do
I'm glad I found u lol
I remember one time they got mad at me for running into a stop sign, it’s kinda a stupid story but I kinda relate to the snobby keystone staff lol
Dude it is posted all over Schoolmarm with all the merging trails to go slow. There isn't a more busy beginner area in all of Summit County than Schoolmarm so why are you shocked you got in trouble for going too fast? There are plenty of blacks and even blues with not much traffic where you won't have any issues from the resort for going fast. Don't go flying down a run that is packed with beginners and you won't have any issues..
lol that was harsh you shoulda told him how much eyes you bring to their mtn
Jonathan is to humble bro lol in thought the same as u did haha
@KILLG%R He handled it pretty well, id be so fucking pissed idk what i'd say
Greg Orian III yeah everyone already knows about keystone, this guys got like 29k 😂😂
tbh schoolmarm is the greenest green on the mountain with signs saying no jumping all over it.
LiamWarlord this guys pushing a narrative and using “well they’re doing it !!” As an excuse to break the rules. There’s slow signs every 100ft ffs.
@@michealtimmann88 they released the raw footage though
The ski patrol just felt jealous of how good you are my dude
Hahaha 🤣
I used to be ski patrol on marmot basin a very popular mountain where I’m from and the only time you’d get your pass pulled for going fast was if you’re constantly flying past the slow signs and you’ve been warned but you were never forced to take a class that’s ridiculous