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@Remgames I would like to tell you I love your theory and I'd like to say some of what my theorist senses (game/film theory joke sorry they were my gateway unto theorizing) are yelling at me. First I think back to what you said about the souls that talked to Stanford and while u think Bill had more control due to what he drank from the "eye doctor" from your last video I think Bill has less control now due to his form we see in the Theraprism a glitch like tear streaming down his body. I also believe that the Axoltol is the one who wrote the cipher in the silly straw section because A. So far that's the only cipher that hasn't been addressed on who wrote it (unless I just missed that) and each one rhymes which we know the Axolotl speaks in.
his fear of 3d glasses could be related to his parents. "well well well being" also shows that in art therapy, he only draws red and blue triangles. 3d glasses are typically red and blue.
I mean it could be, but that refers to one type of 3D glasses, and well 3D glasses could also represent what he wanted to do, but got his universe killed make a flat image appear tridimensional show his world the truth, the very concept of 3D glasses is a reminder of his original crime. Or just the anaglyphic 3D glasses reminding him of his parents works too.
Worth noting: 3D glasses work by filtering out red and blue colours. By doing so, the image goes from 2D to 3D Which is a pretty apt metaphor for what Bill did. He tried to make the 2D into 3D, and in doing so sacrificed his red and blue parents.
@@RemGames According to the video, "Rock a bye Billy, please don't you cry, It's not your fault you have that strange eye, stay safe with mommy you'll never fall, and we'll always love you sharp angles and all" This really _is_ a lullaby
i also just wnat to mention that during the wheel of shame bit, the how he beat me thing, if you reclick it one last time after the staticy screaming, you get a criptic message about stanley pines. "Stanley Pines, the conman clown, Always dragged his family down. One mistake, disowned, denied, Only thing to do was hide. One way out: the open road. Reinvent, retry, reload. A girdle, eyepatch, fathers fez, "I'm a new man!" so he says Couldn't outrun life's regrets, Just kept placing bigger bets. Changed his haircut, switched hotels- Truth is just whatever sells. When you've lost track of your lies, When the poison starts to rise, When the walls are closing in, When its clear you cannot win, When your actions make it worse, When they see you as a curse, Give the wheel one last spin, Take your chips and go all in, And Lucky Stan- the roll's on black, He got his life and family back. His big break, it finally came, Redemption from a life of shame. You really think you won the day. You packed your bags and sailed away. You think you left the past behind. But trust me I'm still on your mind"
The color cipher being the Euclydean language just makes sense. Think about it, in a two-dimensional world, any being would only be able to see in one dimension. (essentially just a line) They wouldn't be able to read any kind of alphabet, but at the very least, they can differentiate colors. Alex Hirsch is a genius.
Even if they cant drawn shapes they can store information and words by using lines of colors. Thats actualy very clever. But it means that if you wanted to make sentences you would need to do so in a single line.
The doctor notes on silly straws could be referencing Bill’s “mutation” to see the third dimension, so Bill had to take three sips of the medicine to “blind” him of that dimension.
Remember bill when he's fragmented? He has cracks filled with static. The dead parents look like full static. The scientists observed his blood was strange and silver with multiple colors at the edges like liquid static. Just a theory, let me break your brain further :)
It could be something that’s naturally part of him (and maybe his species) being 2 dimensional and made of energy? So their form being static means permanent damage or something? May also be part of him being a dream demon of sorts? Or both? Idk, but it’s a fun thing to think about.😅
On one page of the book where bill gets drunk in a bar and wrecks everything, he takes the phone away from a server. He thinks he’s calling his mom, ACTIVELY SAYING something similar to „Hi Mommy, it’s me Billy!“ Bill is only called ‚Billy‘ by his Mother; aka Scalene is actively trying to reach out to us! Your theory checks out!
If you look at bill after Stan punched him to death he has glitch cracks on him. I think the reason that the souls are “leaking” more is because of his injuries- he used to have more control over them hence the souls only being able to communicate with Ford through his dream (and only once at that). Now that Bill is injured and the Theraprism is trying to bring up Bill’s past, he is losing control over the souls at a rapid rate! Of course this is just my theory lol~
Also something heartbreaking is that, with all that's happened, when you're pretty sure it's his mom that is talking in color cipher she's sharing silly facts about her son, after a trillion years of endless wandering and torture
My favorite detail is when he called him a "one eyed freak" gaining his immediate attention basically grabbing his deformity and smashing it on his head before he got sacked
@@azrieldalusong5042 I think he tried to twist/ contort them into 3D since they didn’t believe that he could see that dimension. It’s hinted at in that “bent out of shape” line in the book.
I think the colour codes are just Bill’s repressed memories floating to the surface, or stuff that is otherwise floating in his subconscious. Bill is constantly battling his guilt, trying to repress and deny it, but he can’t keep it down. He glitches, and these little echoes of his past, voices and memories from Euclydia, from his parents, it all pushes through in the form of colour codes and static.
The color codes make me think that Bills species communicate like cuttlefish- flicking between Colors to make words. We know Bill is capable of it thanks to Dream Scapers
i think that the reason bill cannot control the souls (anymore) is because of how he was defeated we can still see the damage from stanleys punch on him in the book
Honestly I noticed all of this but I didn't put it together like you did- I thought since Bill isn't well mentally his subconscious could take over and write those sentences, or warn people. Occam's razor. But what you say makes SO much sense -youre REALLY pulling a matpat here, extremely underrated video, I'll be following your every move from now on! We're going mad on the GF subreddit discord server and I think they could use watching your videos. I have some more theorizing for you: his phobia of the venetian blinds is thought to be cause bt the fact that he literally tried to "tilt" euclydia up to let his people see the "stars" he was seeing, thus making his (?)planet directly face their sun and setting everything on fire, like one of the hidden stastic audio says (which is also referenced in the show when his eye shows flames as he talks about his home dimension) . THis is supported by him showing something similar when he talks about his dimension in weirdmageddon, and by the visual trick you have to use to get t.j heckleburg - you have to *tilt* the book to see the tip. And what do you do if you want to see past venetian blinds? You have to tilt them between vertical and horizontal, or viceversa. Hope this helped!
4:37 According to Alex Hirsch, this specific line was a remnant of when Bill was supposed to be a minor antagonist. More specifically, the original idea was that Bill would invade Dipper's dreams to scream incredibly nonsensical conspiracy theories at him like "46, 27, 38! Look out for deer! Have you ever noticed the ingredients in soda? Oranges are gonna give you super powers! BYE!" and then Dipper would wake up, believing all that complete jargon as part of the Mystery of Gravity Falls.
@@AshNRoses4409 They knew that the show would end in some sort of apocalypse, but they didn't know how or who would cause it. Bill was originally going to be a one off, or at least minor antagonist. You can kind of see this a bit if you go back to that episode. He's strong and dangerous, but Gideon is clearly depicted as the bigger, more actively malicious threat. Hence why he has all the "power" in their deal, and calls Bill his "new minion" toward the start. Even the ending doesn't allude toward Bill returning in any kind of major way (aside from the idea that he'd be "watching" in the background). Instead he shows a six fingered hand building up towards "Not What He Seems," rather than Weirdmageddon. Even the Zodiac in the credits was likely just foreshadowing foreshadowing the S1 finale, and perhaps alluding to Bill's place in the larger mythos.
Honestly I can’t really see the show without bill being the villain so I wonder who would have replaced him in the finale as the main antagonist (Gideon maybe? Although it’s a bit of a stretch to have him start the apocalypse)
If you say “scary” in the website it has an audio book which is an obvious satire to goosebumps called “spookemups” and it’s just a play on Goosebumps where every chapter the character screams “IT WAS BILL” and the next chapter is entitled “it was not bill”
if bill ciphers dad is Euclid and he's from Euclydia doesn't that mean that Bill's dad was probably the mayor? which is why the book said he was the "best baby of all time" BECAUSE THAT WAS HIS DAD- HIS DAD WAS THE MAYOR
Dang. This points to Bill devouring his family, and his whole dimension, for power. Hence the very heavy emphasize on calling Bill a "murderer" for what happened to Euclydia. Plus the word "mandibles" in TBOB regarding the event had horrific implications.
@@RemGames I think it was an accident. Bill was showing them the 3rd dimension through some means, someone apprehended him, he got intense, lost control, and ended up killing some euclideans either via losing control of whatever he was using or shooting his magic by accident. The other euclideans ran away, Bill got angry because he thought they were shunning him, and then he began using his powers in a blind rage, kinda like how someone throws things or bangs tables when angry and isn't aware of how things are getting destroyed or people are getting hit by accident. For the dimensiom-eating, it goes two ways: 1. He ate them in his rage and only realized he killed them afterwards, or 2. After he calmed down, he realized he messed up big time and devoured them all as a both a cleanup and as a form of ego-stroking that he is indeed stronger and better than them and he will consume them as lesser beings. Of course, people will still think he's a murderer. They were definitely lots of innocent lives taken in that massacre. Besides, no sane being eats the dead bodies of his race as cleanup and ego-stroking.
I wonder if he figured out how to bend or fold the universe. But then that ripped splits and cracks in everyone, leading to pretty horrific deaths where they bleed out. It was said afterwards there was blood everywhere
Listen I’ve been wondering, bill could only “see” into the third dimension Not exactly move in it not travel to it Just see it The whole “sharing the third dimension” with his home plane has to have happened after he LEARNED how to travel to or exert some control over the third dimension. I’m pretty sure that Euclidians had the basic powers of communicating via minds but a lot of the more malicious powers that bill has, he must’ve learnt from whoever/Whatever he learnt the third dimension reality from. Pretty sure he was betrayed or taken advantage of when he tried to “share” the third dimension Whatever he took that knowledge from, tricked him into causing that accident. Which is why he’s snapped so magnificently and does the exact kind of trickery to everyone else he possesses. Which is also why the destruction of his plane is the only genuine regret/trauma that comes up in his long history of heinous crimes… he hadn’t meant to cause the destruction he had no real control over it?
gravity falls was my life. i watched it when i was a teen and i have been obsessed with the plot. later i discovered its usage of codes and i fell in love with it even more. i am currently letting my son to watch it as well, he absolutely loves the show as well. like father like son.
The first time I watched gravity falls was just last year. Thought it was a good show and moved on. But with the fandom back I rewatched it and it has taken over my life. I absolutely love this show.
The valley of ashes is a great gatsby reference. I havent found anything directly confirming it, but I feel almost certain that the eye doctor that caused bills meltdown was called Dr. TJ Eckleburg, and that he represents ignorance and normality in some way that is greater than just euclidya. The society of the blind eye leading back to euclidya makes me think that he is still out there im some form or another, and is influencing the world of gravity falls.
I noticed Euclydia is heavily associated with math. Bill cypher can turn 3 Dimensional and is even is detailed for a triangle. Euclydia may be a 2 dimensional world of math and shapes. Bill was born as more advanced shapes being more advanced math. He tried to show his dimension the 3rd dimension destroying it but by accident. Euclydia being very delicate in math was unable to handle the complexity of the 3rd dimension collapsing it. This is just my interpretation. In design of bill the fact he has a brick pattern on him also symbolizes he is made of other shapes like rectangles to make his triangle shape, in math shapes can be used to make other shapes. Bill in design and even by math and geometric standards was complex in nature.
Idk if this is stupid but it kinda makes sense to me that Euclydia was like an old TV show/universe. The thing of too far to the left and youll come out to the right. It sounds like a 2d tv show; if they step off frame they come out the other side. Also his parents and their voices being static feels like theyre 'not on air' anymore. After killing his tv show universe he moved to others like Gravity falls, owl house, etc.
@@kezottleHow do we search for lost media then? We have no clues. Welp I'm getting no sleep, it's gonna be replaced with inputting words into the website.
20:50 "I can still see through the eyes of everyone I've ever slaughtered" it makes since and would mean he saw everyone of his people die through there eyes feeling their pain and so on
22:30 As soon as I heard this, it immediately reminded me of when Bill got defeated in Stan’s mind. He was glitching and losing control of his form and even looked down at his hands with concern. I feel as if these trapped/lost souls helped Stan to defeat him by making him glitch and spazz out. I absolutely loVe this video and this theory! UGH- We are so back!
@@RemGamesOn top of that, Bill and TV static has been a theme of his from his first appearance. When he says "I know lots of things" to Gideon he flips through a bunch of images that are overlayed with static. Then a minute later when Gideon mentions Stanford Pines, Bill flips between pure static and images related to Stan. Another (admittedly weak) connection is that Bill's actual first appearance was always in that frame we see of him at the end of the intro sequence which you could consider a "TV glitch" which links to your theory.
one thing overlooked with time baby's death is that he is quite literally a TIME baby, so even if it takes 1000 years he can always wait that time, and head back into the past, although I also agree it probably wasn't him who wrote those messages
I’ve been loving the Book of Bill/the website. It’s done so much for Bill’s character. Like he’s still threat, no one besides the axolotl is more powerful than him, but I love how much they took the piss out of him I love how he tries to jumpscare you when you call him a dorito The pines family while warning people of him dont take him as seriously anymore I LOVE how he loathes that Stanley beat him and has outbursts I love how he tells us that everyone lies to themselves enough that they’ll believe whatever but it implies Bill is lying to himself
26:06 If you type in hoot (or something else i forgot) you get "hoot hoot passwoed please!" Which is a reference to The Owl House, mainly a character named Hooty. Alex voiced hooty! If Alex voiced Hooty, and the souls bill has tortured can interact with us on the website, Bill did something or is doing something to Alex!
When the poem mentions appearing on the left after going right and top to bottom, it might actually be related to *non*-euclidean geometry. In a space which isn't euclidean (for example, spherecal geometry) it is possible that no matter which direction you go, you'll always come back to your starting point. Also, geometries like spherical geometry can have a limited amount of space even though they don't have bounds, which might be related to "loved ones will be ever near".
Positively curved space doesn't have a limited amount of space, it just kind of has less space per space. It still can go on infinitely though. I get what you're saying, and universes like the one you're describing exist, specifically toroidal or spherical geometries, but it's not a property of positively curved space itself.
... You know, it just occurred to me that Bill's body is indeed very strange for a two-dimensional being. After all, he has that "strange eye" -- an eye that would be completely useless in a two dimensional world, as it's entirely surrounded by his own body. An eye that faces in a direction that doesn't exist -- the third dimension. Bill's power to see the third dimension is literally given to us in the way he's drawn!
(In fact it's a little strange that the doctors of Euclydia even realized that it *was* an eye, since the "eyes" they'd be used to would be some one-dimensional shape on their bodies' edges and it wouldn't be visible from the outside... I guess they have some equivalent of ultrasound + very good imaginations? I'm kind of impressed :p)
Honestly this guy gives me such matpat vibes which I love. The thumbnails especially. I love your series and I’ve already subscribed to you. Looking forward to more of your theories in the future!
I wanna add this cause you seemed to be a bit lost on why the people of Euclidiya can speak to Bill through the static. For people who are ghost-hunting fanatics (I'm not but I watch them), there is a device known as a "Spirit Box". The purpose of this device is to allow the user to listen to the deceased who are nearby and respond to any questions they may have. How this works is by connecting to multiple radio stations and then flipping through them super fast. By hastily switching through the stations, the ghost can slowly take bits of the sentences said on air to formulate words to speak with. (Kinda like how Bumble Bee from Transformers does it.) The science behind it is that ghost hunters theorize that spirits have the ability to manipulate electromagnetic energies, like the ones shared on radiowaves. Thus they must be able to manipulate the sound bytes transferred through radio signals. Perhaps this is what is happening to Bill. The ghosts around him are able to speak to him by flipping through channels so they can make sentences of whatever garbled mess the static produces. This is why they sound so robotic, they're using shrill little zips and zaps to create speech synthesis. Kinda like some messed-up version of The Atari Entertainment system. Hope this helps in some way, somehow.
I also like to think he's afraid of TV static because of the fact that his blood (as seen on his government file), and therefore most likely the blood of all Euclideans, *looks like static.* Also also. "Do you even fathom how much pain I'm-" just makes me so sad. Poor guy :(
Devoured probably is what makes sense in the part where he’s like “I still see through the eyes of everyone I’ve ever devoured”. Plus there is a part of the website where there is a gilimpse of the stomach of a god that is basically a labyrinth. Bill is pretty god-like.
Also in TBOB didn't he tell Ford that the monster who destroyed his dimension would "eat [Ford] alive" ? I don't think he was being purely metaphorical
My theory is its something along the lines of "made a deal with". Bill can only access people's minds if they're asleep, but with the code IMSTILLONYOURMIND, we see a clip of whom appear to be Stanley (probably not Ford because of that metal plate) in the Stan O' War II, but of course, he's awake. Another point is, if he's "devoured" these people, then what is he seeing? His own stomach?
When you sell your soul to bill using the code naitsuaf, you can hear the voices of the dead euclideans. Like the other victims in Journal 3 you can use some of his “powers”? When you sell your soul to him maybe he has to give a little bit of his soul to you?
5:00 Sometimes, but I don't think always. If you put "sorry", it shows you a letter from McGucket talking about the first time he met Stanford. If it was Bill, then that wouldn't make sense. I think most of the time it's Bill who we're talking to in that website, but not all the time.
I think he hacked McGucket's computer, but since it still is McGucket's computer, it will still have McGuckets stuff (Bill got some robot to be there controlled by the visitor of the website, and he recorded it so we could see the stuff)
@@SEBithehiper945 Maybe but that's not what I meant. The "sorry" clearly is from Ford to McGucket. It doesn't make sense why putting "sorry" in the computer shows a picture of Ford and McGucket unless it was from Ford and not Bill. It makes it's from Ford since we see he still feels guilty over what his actions did to McGucket in Weirdmaggedon.
Just to help with the time baby thing, since time, baby he’s a time traveler once 1000 years is up he can travel to anytime, so theoretically, you can never kill him because he always is existing at some point in time and can time travel to the point where he dies over and over and over again, so the conversation between him and bill could be after the show ended
Headcanon: it could be after Bill got shattered and before Bill got sent to therapy. The pic without the crack is just how Bill pictured it. So, they were both in a void outside time and space.
this probably isn't going to help with any thing but if you look closely at the glass pyramid on the desk you see five symbols that translate to "SORRY" also if you type waddles into the device you get sent to a pig adaption website
Thank you REM for being the Film Theory of the website. After I saw the “MatPat” prompt, I was kinda upset that there wasn’t going to be any video on it.
I don’t know if anyone mentioned this but the static part makes sense to me since in the video where you can see his parents as static, you can directly connect it to how bill has some fractures (IIRC) in the form of static at the end of his book when he is shown in the theraprism
The god is the axolotl and bill is making deals with him so thats the reason for the bill and axolotl and the jumpscare is most likeley bill begging for someone to help him.
15:05 Also to note something on the fear of 3D glasses - I don't think Bill had a fear of 3D. Technically he became 3D when he gained a physical form. Now, this COULD be a joke about the fact that he has one eye, and thus 3D glasses don't work for him. But another aspect that could either be another layer or just unintentional - the original form of 3D glasses had one red lens and one blue lens, which match up with what we know about the appearances of Euclid and Scalene. One red, one blue. It's possible that 3D glasses remind him of them.
In the minutes of 21:17 You can vaguely see a color cipher I would decode it, but I don’t have anything to decode Cypher. Just thought I should let you know.
I'd love a breakdown chart of languages, who grasps what languages, and to what degree they are related. This would likely be a metric to grasp timelines, and geography in a better way.
Fear of 3D Glasses - His parents are blue and red Venetian blinds - Might be a clue to a Stripe/slit/Scanimation/Barrier grid animation No clue, just throwing it out there.
Now that I think about it, it’s very logical that euclideans would use the colour cipher as they wouldn’t be able to use 2 dimensional symbols to communicate. Also, euclidia’s 2 dimensions could be ‘left and right’ and ‘up and down’ and it doesn’t have depth. That’s why they can “jump”.
In A Nightmare on Elm Street 3 it’s revealed that the victims of Freddy Krueger had their souls consumed by him. In 4, they help to defeat him. In 5, his mother’s spirit harnesses his own to trap him. Considering Bill is a dream demon, I think Alex took notes from the Nightmare franchise and we’ll be seeing more parallels
9:06 I feel like this message isn't a reference to pacman, you can't jump in pacman. This might be referring to a 2D platformer. Maybe an old school game of sorts. Just my theory.
Season 3's probably not legally possible cuz... Disney. But if you type in season 1 into the website you do get something interesting: "Season -1: Antigravity Falls" Perhaps a prequel about bill? Or heck even a spinoff?
If there were a movie to I would think one of the ways to defeat Bill once in for all is to become one of his souls and to be so strong enough to break Bill from the inside in
I think bill died to the memory eraser since bills liberated parents and friends are in the dreamscape, that gun would erase EVERY memory that stan had, and bill since he was also in Stan’s mind, since those people were litteraly a part of bill cipher, and dreams can be memorized, those people were memorized in bills mind in a depressing way, therefore it would not only kill bill, but also kill the people he “devoured”. (Btw just my theroy) also the Axolotl said he would return a different form, a different time, what form is bill right now? Stone, a damn statue, that is his new form, the Axolotl helped bill already, without anyone even knowing, and since it will be a different time he returns (as said from the Axolotl, “a different form, a different time”) it’s just a matter of time until bill returns to cause the apocalypse. Edit: when I said it “killed them” I meant it erased them from reality, the Axolotl only agreed to help bill, that is why there is still remanence of bill (the statue bill will be for his different form at a different time, btw I hope this all makes sense, I’m not that smart, just my theroy lol)
I think that maybe Bill is from videogamrs, especially in S1E10, first we see bill cipher in one of the screen, this could mean that euclidia is the dimension in gravity falls that is behind screens. in the same episode, later that bill scene, we see a triangle eating a ghost, we could assume that euclidians are supposed to devour spirits, and related to what you've said in the video, Bill could have trapped the spirits of who he devoured inside one of the screens, and that explain why he hears screams when he's exposed to static screens
You're wrong. There is up in 2D, jump, like Mario, or Castlevania; jump to far, and your out of bounds clipping will get you back into the 2D floor. What's not on 2D is depth. As a 2D world in a paper sheet or a T.V. Screen shouldn't ever reach out to the boundries from which we view the 2D plane. Bill was the only Euclydean with an eye, let alone, an eye aiming out into whatever is outside the plane.
I think because what his people thought "up" meant and Bill saying "up" were two different axis'. Bill wouldn't have any other way to communicate about the extra dimension.
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Ok now here me out, If Billy is using the world fascist about shoelaces does that imply that there was a euclidian dictator from world war 2 in Euclidia
hello, gravity falls fan since 5 weeks now here, I got some questions that may be revealing other ones: 1. the color code (euklydian) looks like glitch. I know it sounds crazy but isn't like all glitches euklydian ? (it could be why they're comunicating like this since cipher's fear of static) try to uncode it. 2. when we prompt "stanford pines" we see his birth certificate or something, at the bottom something is rod in black but we can easly read "If I could kidnap him and bring him to our secret cloning lab", one of staley's complex is his fingerprints being "unusualy little" as we can read in his fears, is staley pines a clone of stanford with one finger less on each hand and a better view (at least when he was young) but a little dummer ? 3. why is there a link to buy the book of bill down left on the website ? 4.if one of bill cipher's power is to break the fourth wall but he's also able to see through dimensions, is talking to us really breaking the fourth wall ? 5. WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED FOR HIM TO DESTROY HIS DIMENSION ? 6. you say bill's dimension is alike packman's dimension but we can see a picture of him when he was a child and it looks like nothing like packman's world. 7. people have also found in the program of the last "thisisnotawebsitedotcom" something like "301_some_sunny_days" which is something bill told in the song "we'll meet again" by the ink spot: "we'll meet again, don't know where, don't know when, but I know we'll meet again some sunny day ", teasing season 3 of gravity falls, is there anything other than this in the program of the new thisisnotawebsitedotcom ? 8. the website changed once, it could change twice or more can't it ? 9. we can also change the volume of the website down right, is there anything to do, see or learn in the music/track of the website ? 10. something that really triggers me: bill wears a hat, we see in the silouhete of his parents that his dad/mom wear a hat alike, we can imagine the other parents wear something like a bow-tie. is he wearing his dead parent's clothes (after killing them) ? (bonus point for the one who can explain me why in wierdmageddon part 1 blood comes out of his hat after stanford shoot it with his gun made for killing bill) 11. when we didn't sold our soul to bill, we can see different shapes of glitching in the screen, does it mean something ? and also the screen glitches on its own, does it mean bill's souls are about to leave ? and if so, does it mean that it's soon over or that it's going to get worse ? 12: why is in all of the e-bay links all stanley's clothes except his glasses, and one website that doesn't have to do anything with all this: "dogs playing pocker" ? 13: when we type "bill cipher", there's some possibilities of getting something: "eye of providence" or "triangle" wikipedia pages or "Sesame Street - Jazzy Triangle Meets A Square Square (1969)" youtube video (maybe some clues that he allready been to our world before ?). when you got one, you can't get anything else, you gotta restart the website to get hopefully something else. for note: I haven't read the book because I'm french and we don't have any book of bill here, the only way to read it is to take it on the internet but I can't because transport costs are freaking expensive (even though I would love to read it) so if any of these questions are answered in the book of bill, let me know.
Bill must've destroyed his dimension due to losing control of his ability to show people the 3rd dimension and then when they got scared, he got mad, lost control of himself and his powers, and chaos went down when he began to rage. I also love the idea of Bill wearing his dead parent's clothes. The hat being his dad's and the bow being his mom's (which he placed on the chest area because it looked like a bow tie, anyway). I think his hat just bled because Bill was manipulating its form. Bill can manipulate the form of certain objects and beings because he enjoys messing around like that.
euclidia could be 2d like mario so there is an up and down and a left and right but there is no side to side that could be why it talks about going too far up and popping out of the ground edit: also what if when bill was in stan's mind and his eye tried to escape what if that was a soul trying to escape bill
Another thing about the static, bills blood is static, as shown by his military file, and the cracks in his current form have static in them, does that mean he has open wounds now?
Yes. It's definitely the big crack after he got shattered. Think of him panicking as he was dying as someone panicking that he got hit and is now losing too much blood.
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12:18 you forgot time baby can time travel
One thing I want to say is that the axolotl knows this and can stop it but is not why would he do that 🤨
Yo what you to know this there’s writing on the candle after you sign the paper just give your soul to Bill
There was an unsolved cipher in several of the episodes titles and they are the color cipher!
@Remgames I would like to tell you I love your theory and I'd like to say some of what my theorist senses (game/film theory joke sorry they were my gateway unto theorizing) are yelling at me. First I think back to what you said about the souls that talked to Stanford and while u think Bill had more control due to what he drank from the "eye doctor" from your last video I think Bill has less control now due to his form we see in the Theraprism a glitch like tear streaming down his body. I also believe that the Axoltol is the one who wrote the cipher in the silly straw section because A. So far that's the only cipher that hasn't been addressed on who wrote it (unless I just missed that) and each one rhymes which we know the Axolotl speaks in.
his fear of 3d glasses could be related to his parents. "well well well being" also shows that in art therapy, he only draws red and blue triangles. 3d glasses are typically red and blue.
I mean it could be, but that refers to one type of 3D glasses, and well 3D glasses could also represent what he wanted to do, but got his universe killed make a flat image appear tridimensional show his world the truth, the very concept of 3D glasses is a reminder of his original crime. Or just the anaglyphic 3D glasses reminding him of his parents works too.
It’s probably because it reminds him of his curse - seeing into the third dimension while being in Euclidyia
Plus the ideathat his parents are now seen as static in one of the secrets means he might have some guilt over their deaths. @roy3749
You know I wonder if Bill is the triangle from flatland
Worth noting: 3D glasses work by filtering out red and blue colours. By doing so, the image goes from 2D to 3D
Which is a pretty apt metaphor for what Bill did. He tried to make the 2D into 3D, and in doing so sacrificed his red and blue parents.
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According to the video,
"Rock a bye Billy, please don't you cry, It's not your fault you have that strange eye, stay safe with mommy you'll never fall, and we'll always love you sharp angles and all"
This really _is_ a lullaby
Close enough welcome back matpat!
Real
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Matpat is inside the website but sure
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I think that joke flew over your head... @@patax144
i also just wnat to mention that during the wheel of shame bit, the how he beat me thing, if you reclick it one last time after the staticy screaming, you get a criptic message about stanley pines.
"Stanley Pines, the conman clown,
Always dragged his family down.
One mistake, disowned, denied,
Only thing to do was hide.
One way out: the open road.
Reinvent, retry, reload.
A girdle, eyepatch, fathers fez,
"I'm a new man!" so he says
Couldn't outrun life's regrets,
Just kept placing bigger bets.
Changed his haircut, switched hotels-
Truth is just whatever sells.
When you've lost track of your lies,
When the poison starts to rise,
When the walls are closing in,
When its clear you cannot win,
When your actions make it worse,
When they see you as a curse,
Give the wheel one last spin,
Take your chips and go all in,
And Lucky Stan- the roll's on black,
He got his life and family back.
His big break, it finally came,
Redemption from a life of shame.
You really think you won the day.
You packed your bags and sailed away.
You think you left the past behind.
But trust me
I'm still on your mind"
The color cipher being the Euclydean language just makes sense. Think about it, in a two-dimensional world, any being would only be able to see in one dimension. (essentially just a line) They wouldn't be able to read any kind of alphabet, but at the very least, they can differentiate colors. Alex Hirsch is a genius.
Truuuuee! That's such a clever connection!
Even if they cant drawn shapes they can store information and words by using lines of colors.
Thats actualy very clever.
But it means that if you wanted to make sentences you would need to do so in a single line.
I was thinking about this too when I remembered bill once said he came from a place like flatland (everyone inside of flatland can only see lines).
Colours as a language for characters who can only see one dimension is AWESOME IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE
“Why did you do it?” Is so haunting.
"Did i do that?" is even worse..
@@anaitm8103 Steve Urkel is the scariest Gravity Falls character
@@RemGames absolutely terrifying!
@@RemGames ohh lmao i didnt realise it was a reference to the show 😅 and here i was angsting about bill cipher tragic backstory
@@anaitm8103 oh wow that’s so funny 😂 yeah no, it’s just a reference to the show “Family Matters”
The doctor notes on silly straws could be referencing Bill’s “mutation” to see the third dimension, so Bill had to take three sips of the medicine to “blind” him of that dimension.
Remember bill when he's fragmented? He has cracks filled with static. The dead parents look like full static. The scientists observed his blood was strange and silver with multiple colors at the edges like liquid static. Just a theory, let me break your brain further :)
makes sense and i think is true
It could be something that’s naturally part of him (and maybe his species) being 2 dimensional and made of energy? So their form being static means permanent damage or something?
May also be part of him being a dream demon of sorts? Or both?
Idk, but it’s a fun thing to think about.😅
So in other words, he bleeds souls.
Or at least random information.
@@thepixelman4776 I think its along the lines of that's what euclydians look like when they're damaged or dead
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Matpat: you're on your own this time
Remgames:you bet i am
On one page of the book where bill gets drunk in a bar and wrecks everything, he takes the phone away from a server. He thinks he’s calling his mom, ACTIVELY SAYING something similar to „Hi Mommy, it’s me Billy!“ Bill is only called ‚Billy‘ by his Mother; aka Scalene is actively trying to reach out to us!
Your theory checks out!
"We'll meet again, dont know where, dont know when but i know will meet again some sunny day" -Bill Cipher
That’s a song? Why are you quoting it as if bill said it? I know he sung it but ????
.@@toumas5263what's?? wrong?? with?? you???
If you look at bill after Stan punched him to death he has glitch cracks on him. I think the reason that the souls are “leaking” more is because of his injuries- he used to have more control over them hence the souls only being able to communicate with Ford through his dream (and only once at that). Now that Bill is injured and the Theraprism is trying to bring up Bill’s past, he is losing control over the souls at a rapid rate!
Of course this is just my theory lol~
Also something heartbreaking is that, with all that's happened, when you're pretty sure it's his mom that is talking in color cipher she's sharing silly facts about her son, after a trillion years of endless wandering and torture
@@Black_Starlight so did Bill "accidentally" eat his dimension?
@@azrieldalusong5042 Based on the few bits we can see about the event it was an accident. He didn't intend to kill his dimension
My favorite detail is when he called him a "one eyed freak" gaining his immediate attention basically grabbing his deformity and smashing it on his head before he got sacked
@@azrieldalusong5042 I think he tried to twist/ contort them into 3D since they didn’t believe that he could see that dimension. It’s hinted at in that “bent out of shape” line in the book.
I think the colour codes are just Bill’s repressed memories floating to the surface, or stuff that is otherwise floating in his subconscious.
Bill is constantly battling his guilt, trying to repress and deny it, but he can’t keep it down. He glitches, and these little echoes of his past, voices and memories from Euclydia, from his parents, it all pushes through in the form of colour codes and static.
The color codes make me think that Bills species communicate like cuttlefish- flicking between Colors to make words. We know Bill is capable of it thanks to Dream Scapers
maybe that could be a version of their spoken language, since none of them really have "mouthes"
I thought more like "painting" the ground and the colors are how they read, they just use telepathy to talk
i think that the reason bill cannot control the souls (anymore) is because of how he was defeated we can still see the damage from stanleys punch on him in the book
The line "Shh little Billy wore velcro until he was sixteen." Sounds like the beginning of a rap verse
Shh, Bill sees dead people
Shh, Bill is haunted by dead people
@@RemGamesmustard on the beat yeah
“You think the Falls gone let you disrespect Stan n^gga?”
yo danny phantom he was just fourteen
Honestly I noticed all of this but I didn't put it together like you did- I thought since Bill isn't well mentally his subconscious could take over and write those sentences, or warn people. Occam's razor. But what you say makes SO much sense -youre REALLY pulling a matpat here, extremely underrated video, I'll be following your every move from now on! We're going mad on the GF subreddit discord server and I think they could use watching your videos.
I have some more theorizing for you: his phobia of the venetian blinds is thought to be cause bt the fact that he literally tried to "tilt" euclydia up to let his people see the "stars" he was seeing, thus making his (?)planet directly face their sun and setting everything on fire, like one of the hidden stastic audio says (which is also referenced in the show when his eye shows flames as he talks about his home dimension)
. THis is supported by him showing something similar when he talks about his dimension in weirdmageddon, and by the visual trick you have to use to get t.j heckleburg - you have to *tilt* the book to see the tip. And what do you do if you want to see past venetian blinds? You have to tilt them between vertical and horizontal, or viceversa. Hope this helped!
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4:37 According to Alex Hirsch, this specific line was a remnant of when Bill was supposed to be a minor antagonist. More specifically, the original idea was that Bill would invade Dipper's dreams to scream incredibly nonsensical conspiracy theories at him like "46, 27, 38! Look out for deer! Have you ever noticed the ingredients in soda? Oranges are gonna give you super powers! BYE!" and then Dipper would wake up, believing all that complete jargon as part of the Mystery of Gravity Falls.
Damn. The concept universe where Bill isn't the main bad guy feels wild. Did they have another ending in mind then?
@@AshNRoses4409 They knew that the show would end in some sort of apocalypse, but they didn't know how or who would cause it. Bill was originally going to be a one off, or at least minor antagonist.
You can kind of see this a bit if you go back to that episode. He's strong and dangerous, but Gideon is clearly depicted as the bigger, more actively malicious threat. Hence why he has all the "power" in their deal, and calls Bill his "new minion" toward the start. Even the ending doesn't allude toward Bill returning in any kind of major way (aside from the idea that he'd be "watching" in the background). Instead he shows a six fingered hand building up towards "Not What He Seems," rather than Weirdmageddon.
Even the Zodiac in the credits was likely just foreshadowing foreshadowing the S1 finale, and perhaps alluding to Bill's place in the larger mythos.
It wouldn’t surprise me if he did actually do that in the show itself to troll Dipper, but he never believed them so we never heard about any of them.
Honestly I can’t really see the show without bill being the villain so I wonder who would have replaced him in the finale as the main antagonist (Gideon maybe? Although it’s a bit of a stretch to have him start the apocalypse)
If you say “scary” in the website it has an audio book which is an obvious satire to goosebumps called “spookemups” and it’s just a play on Goosebumps where every chapter the character screams “IT WAS BILL” and the next chapter is entitled “it was not bill”
Type love in it and you get a love story book
@@SelmaLove3333 this also occurs if you type "boyfriend" and there is most likely more
if bill ciphers dad is Euclid and he's from Euclydia doesn't that mean that Bill's dad was probably the mayor? which is why the book said he was the "best baby of all time" BECAUSE THAT WAS HIS DAD- HIS DAD WAS THE MAYOR
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GOOD THEORY, WE TAKIN IT
Euclid is the best dad is gravity falls💀
If the top hat and bow come from him, it’d definitely fit the look of a mayor.
thats so cute-
Dang. This points to Bill devouring his family, and his whole dimension, for power. Hence the very heavy emphasize on calling Bill a "murderer" for what happened to Euclydia. Plus the word "mandibles" in TBOB regarding the event had horrific implications.
The massacre is either a horrifying and devastating accident, or a maliciously vile planned mass homicide. What great options there Bill…
@@RemGames I think it was an accident. Bill was showing them the 3rd dimension through some means, someone apprehended him, he got intense, lost control, and ended up killing some euclideans either via losing control of whatever he was using or shooting his magic by accident. The other euclideans ran away, Bill got angry because he thought they were shunning him, and then he began using his powers in a blind rage, kinda like how someone throws things or bangs tables when angry and isn't aware of how things are getting destroyed or people are getting hit by accident. For the dimensiom-eating, it goes two ways: 1. He ate them in his rage and only realized he killed them afterwards, or 2. After he calmed down, he realized he messed up big time and devoured them all as a both a cleanup and as a form of ego-stroking that he is indeed stronger and better than them and he will consume them as lesser beings.
Of course, people will still think he's a murderer. They were definitely lots of innocent lives taken in that massacre. Besides, no sane being eats the dead bodies of his race as cleanup and ego-stroking.
I wonder if he figured out how to bend or fold the universe. But then that ripped splits and cracks in everyone, leading to pretty horrific deaths where they bleed out. It was said afterwards there was blood everywhere
I think its made explicitely clear it was an accident. Perhaps the soul sucking was a horrific sid effect.
Listen I’ve been wondering, bill could only “see” into the third dimension
Not exactly move in it not travel to it
Just see it
The whole “sharing the third dimension” with his home plane has to have happened after he LEARNED how to travel to or exert some control over the third dimension.
I’m pretty sure that Euclidians had the basic powers of communicating via minds but a lot of the more malicious powers that bill has, he must’ve learnt from whoever/Whatever he learnt the third dimension reality from.
Pretty sure he was betrayed or taken advantage of when he tried to “share” the third dimension
Whatever he took that knowledge from, tricked him into causing that accident. Which is why he’s snapped so magnificently and does the exact kind of trickery to everyone else he possesses.
Which is also why the destruction of his plane is the only genuine regret/trauma that comes up in his long history of heinous crimes… he hadn’t meant to cause the destruction he had no real control over it?
gravity falls was my life. i watched it when i was a teen and i have been obsessed with the plot. later i discovered its usage of codes and i fell in love with it even more. i am currently letting my son to watch it as well, he absolutely loves the show as well. like father like son.
Exactly how it should be!
No way tf2 scout watches gravity falls
@@keeby4 no way peppino Spaghetti watches gravity falls
The first time I watched gravity falls was just last year. Thought it was a good show and moved on. But with the fandom back I rewatched it and it has taken over my life. I absolutely love this show.
@@keeby4 chucklenuts
nice little touch at the beginning making the candle blue right after you say deal
Why thank you! I was wondering if that would go unnoticed but clearly not!
The valley of ashes is a great gatsby reference. I havent found anything directly confirming it, but I feel almost certain that the eye doctor that caused bills meltdown was called Dr. TJ Eckleburg, and that he represents ignorance and normality in some way that is greater than just euclidya. The society of the blind eye leading back to euclidya makes me think that he is still out there im some form or another, and is influencing the world of gravity falls.
That’s a REALLY good theory! I have an idea that’s very similar!
I noticed Euclydia is heavily associated with math. Bill cypher can turn 3 Dimensional and is even is detailed for a triangle. Euclydia may be a 2 dimensional world of math and shapes. Bill was born as more advanced shapes being more advanced math. He tried to show his dimension the 3rd dimension destroying it but by accident. Euclydia being very delicate in math was unable to handle the complexity of the 3rd dimension collapsing it. This is just my interpretation. In design of bill the fact he has a brick pattern on him also symbolizes he is made of other shapes like rectangles to make his triangle shape, in math shapes can be used to make other shapes. Bill in design and even by math and geometric standards was complex in nature.
Idk if this is stupid but it kinda makes sense to me that Euclydia was like an old TV show/universe. The thing of too far to the left and youll come out to the right. It sounds like a 2d tv show; if they step off frame they come out the other side. Also his parents and their voices being static feels like theyre 'not on air' anymore. After killing his tv show universe he moved to others like Gravity falls, owl house, etc.
That a good idea, according to you, we can find somethings like « Lost media » . If your theorie are real we have to find this show
Oh my god this is such a good idea, its lost media and he almost made gravity falls the same
@@kezottleHow do we search for lost media then? We have no clues. Welp I'm getting no sleep, it's gonna be replaced with inputting words into the website.
Try lost media as a prompt if you haven't already
Also you think they tried billy as a prompt
20:50 "I can still see through the eyes of everyone I've ever slaughtered" it makes since and would mean he saw everyone of his people die through there eyes feeling their pain and so on
22:30 As soon as I heard this, it immediately reminded me of when Bill got defeated in Stan’s mind.
He was glitching and losing control of his form and even looked down at his hands with concern.
I feel as if these trapped/lost souls helped Stan to defeat him by making him glitch and spazz out.
I absolutely loVe this video and this theory! UGH- We are so back!
That’s SUCH a good point! I didn’t even think about that moment!!
@@RemGames this reminds me of Alastor’s radio broadcast, the one with the screams of the overlords…. Strange
@@RemGamesOn top of that, Bill and TV static has been a theme of his from his first appearance. When he says "I know lots of things" to Gideon he flips through a bunch of images that are overlayed with static. Then a minute later when Gideon mentions Stanford Pines, Bill flips between pure static and images related to Stan.
Another (admittedly weak) connection is that Bill's actual first appearance was always in that frame we see of him at the end of the intro sequence which you could consider a "TV glitch" which links to your theory.
one thing overlooked with time baby's death is that he is quite literally a TIME baby, so even if it takes 1000 years he can always wait that time, and head back into the past, although I also agree it probably wasn't him who wrote those messages
I’ve been loving the Book of Bill/the website. It’s done so much for Bill’s character. Like he’s still threat, no one besides the axolotl is more powerful than him, but I love how much they took the piss out of him
I love how he tries to jumpscare you when you call him a dorito
The pines family while warning people of him dont take him as seriously anymore
I LOVE how he loathes that Stanley beat him and has outbursts
I love how he tells us that everyone lies to themselves enough that they’ll believe whatever but it implies Bill is lying to himself
It’s so awesome that he’s become both more human, and more of a joke at the same time!
It really fleshes out his character and it makes me enjoy him so much more!
@@RemGamesi feel like weirdmageddon 2.0 would end up being a big fuck up on the pine family, cuz no way in hell is bill gonna let all of this slide
26:06
If you type in hoot (or something else i forgot) you get "hoot hoot passwoed please!" Which is a reference to The Owl House, mainly a character named Hooty. Alex voiced hooty! If Alex voiced Hooty, and the souls bill has tortured can interact with us on the website, Bill did something or is doing something to Alex!
When the poem mentions appearing on the left after going right and top to bottom, it might actually be related to *non*-euclidean geometry. In a space which isn't euclidean (for example, spherecal geometry) it is possible that no matter which direction you go, you'll always come back to your starting point. Also, geometries like spherical geometry can have a limited amount of space even though they don't have bounds, which might be related to "loved ones will be ever near".
Positively curved space doesn't have a limited amount of space, it just kind of has less space per space. It still can go on infinitely though. I get what you're saying, and universes like the one you're describing exist, specifically toroidal or spherical geometries, but it's not a property of positively curved space itself.
@@Console.Log01 Yeah that's why I said "it is possible" and "can have" instead of just saying it always does. Thank you for clarifying.
Now my Geometry trauma is back 😂. I used to suck balls at that 😂.
... You know, it just occurred to me that Bill's body is indeed very strange for a two-dimensional being. After all, he has that "strange eye" -- an eye that would be completely useless in a two dimensional world, as it's entirely surrounded by his own body. An eye that faces in a direction that doesn't exist -- the third dimension. Bill's power to see the third dimension is literally given to us in the way he's drawn!
(In fact it's a little strange that the doctors of Euclydia even realized that it *was* an eye, since the "eyes" they'd be used to would be some one-dimensional shape on their bodies' edges and it wouldn't be visible from the outside... I guess they have some equivalent of ultrasound + very good imaginations? I'm kind of impressed :p)
Bill was canonically dripped out of his two dimensional world for 16 years
Honestly this guy gives me such matpat vibes which I love. The thumbnails especially. I love your series and I’ve already subscribed to you. Looking forward to more of your theories in the future!
I wanna add this cause you seemed to be a bit lost on why the people of Euclidiya can speak to Bill through the static.
For people who are ghost-hunting fanatics (I'm not but I watch them), there is a device known as a "Spirit Box". The purpose of this device is to allow the user to listen to the deceased who are nearby and respond to any questions they may have.
How this works is by connecting to multiple radio stations and then flipping through them super fast. By hastily switching through the stations, the ghost can slowly take bits of the sentences said on air to formulate words to speak with.
(Kinda like how Bumble Bee from Transformers does it.)
The science behind it is that ghost hunters theorize that spirits have the ability to manipulate electromagnetic energies, like the ones shared on radiowaves. Thus they must be able to manipulate the sound bytes transferred through radio signals.
Perhaps this is what is happening to Bill. The ghosts around him are able to speak to him by flipping through channels so they can make sentences of whatever garbled mess the static produces. This is why they sound so robotic, they're using shrill little zips and zaps to create speech synthesis. Kinda like some messed-up version of The Atari Entertainment system.
Hope this helps in some way, somehow.
Im pretty sure there is another Color thing on The page that says “I can still see through the eyes of everyone I’ve ever” at the bottom
Close enough, welcome back matpat!
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I also like to think he's afraid of TV static because of the fact that his blood (as seen on his government file), and therefore most likely the blood of all Euclideans, *looks like static.*
Also also. "Do you even fathom how much pain I'm-" just makes me so sad. Poor guy :(
Ever since the book of bill released. You're the only person i go to now for theories. Really love your videos!!!
Thank you so much!!
Seconded!
Yo at least he’s not matpat who comes back eventually
Same, lol. I'm so glad these videos helped me find this channel!
@@israelmarquez7670 Matpat is currently trapped in the computer along with weird al and Charile day
9:39
Think again. Bill Cipher jumped out of his dimension, and got rid of that universe.
Devoured probably is what makes sense in the part where he’s like “I still see through the eyes of everyone I’ve ever devoured”. Plus there is a part of the website where there is a gilimpse of the stomach of a god that is basically a labyrinth. Bill is pretty god-like.
Wait, what part of the website?
Also in TBOB didn't he tell Ford that the monster who destroyed his dimension would "eat [Ford] alive" ? I don't think he was being purely metaphorical
Whats the code to see that labyrinth
@@DolyPiercei would also like to know
My theory is its something along the lines of "made a deal with". Bill can only access people's minds if they're asleep, but with the code IMSTILLONYOURMIND, we see a clip of whom appear to be Stanley (probably not Ford because of that metal plate) in the Stan O' War II, but of course, he's awake.
Another point is, if he's "devoured" these people, then what is he seeing? His own stomach?
Great! Great!
Now I need you to recite "Hello internet, Welcome to Game Theory!"..
When you sell your soul to bill using the code naitsuaf, you can hear the voices of the dead euclideans. Like the other victims in Journal 3 you can use some of his “powers”? When you sell your soul to him maybe he has to give a little bit of his soul to you?
Heh, I just realized it's Faustian backwards
bro you deserve many many more view for this, every fan need to see what you've found here!
5:00 Sometimes, but I don't think always. If you put "sorry", it shows you a letter from McGucket talking about the first time he met Stanford. If it was Bill, then that wouldn't make sense. I think most of the time it's Bill who we're talking to in that website, but not all the time.
I think he hacked McGucket's computer, but since it still is McGucket's computer, it will still have McGuckets stuff (Bill got some robot to be there controlled by the visitor of the website, and he recorded it so we could see the stuff)
@@SEBithehiper945 Maybe but that's not what I meant.
The "sorry" clearly is from Ford to McGucket. It doesn't make sense why putting "sorry" in the computer shows a picture of Ford and McGucket unless it was from Ford and not Bill. It makes it's from Ford since we see he still feels guilty over what his actions did to McGucket in Weirdmaggedon.
@@cbfranco3307 Maybe, Ford used the computer a bit between the space in which Bill hacked it and Weirdmaggedon (maybe right before he set sail?)
Also fuckyoualex opens a google search for therapy that is probably from alex
the ex wives old goldie: vegas wedding to a cursed, gold-toothed antique likely refers to eda from the owl house
i cant express how much i LOVE lore, when everything is figured out plz make a very long video explaining everything
@@muslimgamerrr9479 I’m planning to try and do a final wrap-up/timeline video at the very end!
@@RemGames nice
i know this is unrelated, but your voice acting in 20:08 was really good!
Just to help with the time baby thing, since time, baby he’s a time traveler once 1000 years is up he can travel to anytime, so theoretically, you can never kill him because he always is existing at some point in time and can time travel to the point where he dies over and over and over again, so the conversation between him and bill could be after the show ended
If you’re confused with some part, just tell me and I’ll try to answer it
Headcanon: it could be after Bill got shattered and before Bill got sent to therapy. The pic without the crack is just how Bill pictured it. So, they were both in a void outside time and space.
this probably isn't going to help with any thing but if you look closely at the glass pyramid on the desk you see five symbols that translate to "SORRY" also if you type waddles into the device you get sent to a pig adaption website
Game Theory 2.0 with that editing. Not too over the top. Just... nice.
Thank you so much!
@@RemGames 😄👍
Thank you REM for being the Film Theory of the website. After I saw the “MatPat” prompt, I was kinda upset that there wasn’t going to be any video on it.
I don’t know if anyone mentioned this but the static part makes sense to me since in the video where you can see his parents as static, you can directly connect it to how bill has some fractures (IIRC) in the form of static at the end of his book when he is shown in the theraprism
Keep posting I want to know more you took matpat “you’re on your own now” as a challenge I love this series
found a few things aswell... typeing Dorito gives you a jumpscare, and typeing God shows a statue of bill and an axolotl
The god is the axolotl and bill is making deals with him so thats the reason for the bill and axolotl and the jumpscare is most likeley bill begging for someone to help him.
LOL had to go out and try it for myself it was greag
15:05 Also to note something on the fear of 3D glasses - I don't think Bill had a fear of 3D. Technically he became 3D when he gained a physical form. Now, this COULD be a joke about the fact that he has one eye, and thus 3D glasses don't work for him.
But another aspect that could either be another layer or just unintentional - the original form of 3D glasses had one red lens and one blue lens, which match up with what we know about the appearances of Euclid and Scalene. One red, one blue. It's possible that 3D glasses remind him of them.
In the minutes of 21:17 You can vaguely see a color cipher I would decode it, but I don’t have anything to decode Cypher. Just thought I should let you know.
I thought the same
I was just about to say that myself
Anyone else notice in this vid when bill talks about an axolotl,bills reversed words in his death scene were A X O L O T L
6:36 look
I'd love a breakdown chart of languages, who grasps what languages, and to what degree they are related.
This would likely be a metric to grasp timelines, and geography in a better way.
Fear of 3D Glasses - His parents are blue and red
Venetian blinds - Might be a clue to a Stripe/slit/Scanimation/Barrier grid animation
No clue, just throwing it out there.
Bill's world was 2D so we can be pretty sure either its a seperate world or a tv show since tv shows are 2 dimensional
Now that I think about it, it’s very logical that euclideans would use the colour cipher as they wouldn’t be able to use 2 dimensional symbols to communicate.
Also, euclidia’s 2 dimensions could be ‘left and right’ and ‘up and down’ and it doesn’t have depth. That’s why they can “jump”.
this is genuinely one of the best and most convincing theories i’ve seen, amazing work!!!
Thank you so much!! I’m so glad I was able to present the information well!
The additions to bills character is a success, i started feeling bad for him
Me too! The more I discover the worse I feel
This man has the absolute best theories!!! No better channel out there for theories than this!!
I really appreciate that! I work so hard on these theories, hunkered down with post it’s and full notebooks, so I’m really glad they’re enjoyable!
@@RemGames hard work pays off man! All success to you brother.🙏🏽
23:09 bc Bill is now broken from Stan's fist
Felt like watching an old MatPat theory video with the way you build up each topic
In A Nightmare on Elm Street 3 it’s revealed that the victims of Freddy Krueger had their souls consumed by him. In 4, they help to defeat him. In 5, his mother’s spirit harnesses his own to trap him. Considering Bill is a dream demon, I think Alex took notes from the Nightmare franchise and we’ll be seeing more parallels
9:06 I feel like this message isn't a reference to pacman, you can't jump in pacman. This might be referring to a 2D platformer. Maybe an old school game of sorts. Just my theory.
I thought of the Mario games in the early years😊
Thanks for making these theories, I was scared there was not gonna be some good theory videos on this since mattpat said we were on our own
I hope with all my heart that this is teasing a season 3.
Season 3's probably not legally possible cuz...
Disney.
But if you type in season 1 into the website you do get something interesting:
"Season -1: Antigravity Falls"
Perhaps a prequel about bill?
Or heck even a spinoff?
We got a tease of a new animated short on Disney channel on Saturday!!
14:15 The 1 second celebration killed me 😅 .
Here’s something interesting if you put Alex it sends you to a flannel website for some odd reason
Yes it does! I love all the weird things we get to explain!
The still on your mind thing could be referring to bill still being in Stanley’s mind, which is why we have that point of view
If there were a movie to I would think one of the ways to defeat Bill once in for all is to become one of his souls and to be so strong enough to break Bill from the inside in
That would totally be it!
I think bill died to the memory eraser since bills liberated parents and friends are in the dreamscape, that gun would erase EVERY memory that stan had, and bill since he was also in Stan’s mind, since those people were litteraly a part of bill cipher, and dreams can be memorized, those people were memorized in bills mind in a depressing way, therefore it would not only kill bill, but also kill the people he “devoured”. (Btw just my theroy) also the Axolotl said he would return a different form, a different time, what form is bill right now? Stone, a damn statue, that is his new form, the Axolotl helped bill already, without anyone even knowing, and since it will be a different time he returns (as said from the Axolotl, “a different form, a different time”) it’s just a matter of time until bill returns to cause the apocalypse.
Edit: when I said it “killed them” I meant it erased them from reality, the Axolotl only agreed to help bill, that is why there is still remanence of bill (the statue bill will be for his different form at a different time, btw I hope this all makes sense, I’m not that smart, just my theroy lol)
Bill Cipher needs to learn from Hoenheim from FMA if he needs to see through his trial in Theraprism
And King Bradley 😂
The codes, ciphers and mystery of Gravity Falls is why I fall in love with it❤
Love how you explain it thoroughly!!
Thank you so much! Gravity falls was the first show that got me theorizing as a kid, so it’s so nostalgic to be thinking about all this again!
@@RemGames OMG! I also can't get enough about the mystery of the show. Gravity falls cause me to use codes and ciphers in my daily life!❤️❤️
This video is so good man,i crave any gravity falls content,you earned yourself a new sub bro!
Thank you so much! I’m so happy to finally be able to make Gravity Falls series!!
@@RemGames Thanks!
I think that maybe Bill is from videogamrs, especially in S1E10, first we see bill cipher in one of the screen, this could mean that euclidia is the dimension in gravity falls that is behind screens. in the same episode, later that bill scene, we see a triangle eating a ghost, we could assume that euclidians are supposed to devour spirits, and related to what you've said in the video, Bill could have trapped the spirits of who he devoured inside one of the screens, and that explain why he hears screams when he's exposed to static screens
You're wrong.
There is up in 2D, jump, like Mario, or Castlevania; jump to far, and your out of bounds clipping will get you back into the 2D floor.
What's not on 2D is depth.
As a 2D world in a paper sheet or a T.V. Screen shouldn't ever reach out to the boundries from which we view the 2D plane.
Bill was the only Euclydean with an eye, let alone, an eye aiming out into whatever is outside the plane.
Yeah but what's confusing is Bill says no one understood what he meant when he said there was a direction called "up".
I think because what his people thought "up" meant and Bill saying "up" were two different axis'. Bill wouldn't have any other way to communicate about the extra dimension.
Bro cooked two awesome season, defeat the Main Boss, and cooked more lore
Click ‘how did he beat me’ past Bill’s screaming..
You’ll get more
Yes you will! It’s a very dark poem about Stan!
amazing video! i really love how this video was structured
Thank you so much!!
was very excited for this video since you teasing your answers on the discord! video did not disappoint i really like uour analysis
Thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Hi! I found your account through the Gravity Falls discord when I saw u chatting. Ur theory seems very convincing and I think you’re right! We don’t have MatPat but we have the next best thing, you!
Ok now here me out, If Billy is using the world fascist about shoelaces does that imply that there was a euclidian dictator from world war 2 in Euclidia
In the stanley thing there’s a message after the screaming, a poem writen by Bill about How much he hates Stan
The bird Ford is painting/drawing is the bird that lands on Bills statue on the last page of the book.
The bird IS Bill!
Rem sounds strangely like bill... i'm not kidding, listen to him.
YOOO, I literally just got done watching your other videos then this one came out!!
No way!!
hello, gravity falls fan since 5 weeks now here, I got some questions that may be revealing other ones:
1. the color code (euklydian) looks like glitch. I know it sounds crazy but isn't like all glitches euklydian ? (it could be why they're comunicating like this since cipher's fear of static) try to uncode it.
2. when we prompt "stanford pines" we see his birth certificate or something, at the bottom something is rod in black but we can easly read "If I could kidnap him and bring him to our secret cloning lab", one of staley's complex is his fingerprints being "unusualy little" as we can read in his fears, is staley pines a clone of stanford with one finger less on each hand and a better view (at least when he was young) but a little dummer ?
3. why is there a link to buy the book of bill down left on the website ?
4.if one of bill cipher's power is to break the fourth wall but he's also able to see through dimensions, is talking to us really breaking the fourth wall ?
5. WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED FOR HIM TO DESTROY HIS DIMENSION ?
6. you say bill's dimension is alike packman's dimension but we can see a picture of him when he was a child and it looks like nothing like packman's world.
7. people have also found in the program of the last "thisisnotawebsitedotcom" something like "301_some_sunny_days" which is something bill told in the song "we'll meet again" by the ink spot: "we'll meet again, don't know where, don't know when, but I know we'll meet again some sunny day ", teasing season 3 of gravity falls, is there anything other than this in the program of the new thisisnotawebsitedotcom ?
8. the website changed once, it could change twice or more can't it ?
9. we can also change the volume of the website down right, is there anything to do, see or learn in the music/track of the website ?
10. something that really triggers me: bill wears a hat, we see in the silouhete of his parents that his dad/mom wear a hat alike, we can imagine the other parents wear something like a bow-tie. is he wearing his dead parent's clothes (after killing them) ? (bonus point for the one who can explain me why in wierdmageddon part 1 blood comes out of his hat after stanford shoot it with his gun made for killing bill)
11. when we didn't sold our soul to bill, we can see different shapes of glitching in the screen, does it mean something ? and also the screen glitches on its own, does it mean bill's souls are about to leave ? and if so, does it mean that it's soon over or that it's going to get worse ?
12: why is in all of the e-bay links all stanley's clothes except his glasses, and one website that doesn't have to do anything with all this: "dogs playing pocker" ?
13: when we type "bill cipher", there's some possibilities of getting something: "eye of providence" or "triangle" wikipedia pages or "Sesame Street - Jazzy Triangle Meets A Square Square (1969)" youtube video (maybe some clues that he allready been to our world before ?). when you got one, you can't get anything else, you gotta restart the website to get hopefully something else.
for note: I haven't read the book because I'm french and we don't have any book of bill here, the only way to read it is to take it on the internet but I can't because transport costs are freaking expensive (even though I would love to read it) so if any of these questions are answered in the book of bill, let me know.
Bill must've destroyed his dimension due to losing control of his ability to show people the 3rd dimension and then when they got scared, he got mad, lost control of himself and his powers, and chaos went down when he began to rage.
I also love the idea of Bill wearing his dead parent's clothes. The hat being his dad's and the bow being his mom's (which he placed on the chest area because it looked like a bow tie, anyway). I think his hat just bled because Bill was manipulating its form. Bill can manipulate the form of certain objects and beings because he enjoys messing around like that.
euclidia could be 2d like mario so there is an up and down and a left and right but there is no side to side that could be why it talks about going too far up and popping out of the ground edit: also what if when bill was in stan's mind and his eye tried to escape what if that was a soul trying to escape bill
That's insane! Kudos bro 👏🏻
Close enough, welcome back MatPat
Dude love how you decoded everything 🙌🙌🙌
Another thing about the static, bills blood is static, as shown by his military file, and the cracks in his current form have static in them, does that mean he has open wounds now?
Yes. It's definitely the big crack after he got shattered. Think of him panicking as he was dying as someone panicking that he got hit and is now losing too much blood.