Off to Savannah... without a Flight Plan!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 เม.ย. 2024
- Well, THIS had not happened to me in a long, long time: I departed in the Bonanza without loading my flight plan into the GPS. Fortunately, the Garmin GTN 750Xi made this task easy in the air, even with the Tango and Victor airways in my clearance. From then on, Copilot Beckey and I enjoyed a beautiful flight to Savannah, GA.
Route of flight: KMLB MALET T208 SMYRA V3 KELER KSAV
Altitude: 9,000' MSL
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Martin stoic after the compliment of nice landing. 😂
I know, your are right! I must have been too focused on keeping the plane stable on the centerline…
- Martin
Right?! I was like, "Butter!" before the Mrs. even said anything...then Martin's like, "Don't change your expression, Martin! Greasing it on is what you do every time! Viewers will be watching...don't let them think otherwise!" 😂🤣
One of the best video'd actual instrument approaches showing GTN-750 and autopilot inputs that I have seen. Looking forward to more.
Thank you, Andrew!
- Martin
Martin thanks for the video! See you at the Bash in The Bluegrass!😃👍❤️
I’ll be there!
- Martin
Yeah, we just returned home to WI from FL last week. Agreed, it is a bit busier down there. Wonderful state.
Martin, I've done the same thing a time or two, you handled it like a pro. Love your videos.
Thanks, David. Glad I'm not alone!
- Martin
@@martinpaulyyou are definitely not alone. 🙋♂️😑
The day Martin actually just "goes flying" (VFR - no preloaded anything), that would be an odd thing.
Oh, that happens all the time - I just don't make videos of those flights! 😎
- Martin
Another crazy well done and much fun to see tks M
It's always a pleasure to ride along with you guys. Definitely a sporty landing but you still greased it on. Thanks for bringing us along for the ride Martin.
Thank you, Kevin!
- Martin
As a fellow pilot, I’m really impressed by this video. Great graphics, oration, videography. Could and should be referred to for flight instruction. Great job.
Thanks for the kind feedback!
- Martin
Thanks for another nice video, Martin. Good to see you back in the copilot seat again, Beckey! In mid-February I got the wife to go with me to the Buckey AOPA fly-in. It had been a very long time for her. We had a great time! Linda used to work at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Brunswick. After I retired, I worked for Gulfstream at their facility in Brunswick, too. On nice days, I'd ride my motorcycle up to Savannah and drive down Victory Blvd, with all those wonderful old mansions. Beautiful part of the country, and we both miss it. We almost chose to live there. But, Arizona called. Hope to see you two at Oshkosh. We'll be there again, as well as Cedar Rapids, this summer. Rick and Linda from Tucson.
Thanks, Rick and Linda. See you in Oshkosh - I’ll be there all week!
- Martin
Thank you, Martin. Different, however, as always, great.
Martin, thanks for taking us along, always a pleasure flying along with you.
My pleasure!
- Martin
Looks like you had an ID-10t problem, lol jk. We've all been there. Keep up the good work!
Wonderful video thanks so much for sharing this experience,in every flight there's something to learn. 🌹
You are very welcome - glad you enjoyed it!
- Martin
I just adore your videos. A great mix of VLOG and education.
Thank you for the kind words!
- Martin
I've forgotten the pre-takeoff 5P check as well before, nice recovery on the fly!
Great video, Martin! Love the editing. Thanks for bringing us along.
-Lee
Thanks, Lee!
- Martin
Love these Videos Martin.
Glad to hear it!
- Martin
Great vid Martin!
Thanks, Jeremiah - and talk to you soon!
- Martin
This video is so insightful on general radio traffic!
Glad you found the video useful!
- Martin
Great video and an awesome landing.
Thank you, James!
- Martin
Cool flight! Excellent video ;-)
Thank you, Frans - always nice to hear from you, and have a great weekend!
- Martin
Great flight Martin. Thanks for sharing. Yeah loading happens every now and then to us all. Tybee is awesome, love that area, and have not been in a while. Hope you are still enjoying the warm weather. LOL. Take Care
Thanks - yes, we have been enjoying the warm winter here a lot!
- Martin
Really appreciate you sharing this. I am hard on myself when I make mistakes. I have made the same mistake once before and felt bad. But it just goes to show you that we're all humans. You handled it like the pro that you are.
Thank you! 😎
- Martin
Really enjoyed that sir! Glad I wasn't the only one that heard a crazy speed on final :D.
Thanks, Shane!
- Martin
Great landing Martin, I heard TB for a minute I thought it was steveo 😂 always enjoying the on screen info. Safe travels
Thanks, Mike!
- Martin
So easy to miss after start items especially with distractions "oh there's a rainbow" or in a hurry. At work, we always have all that stuff done before pushback, but in the light airplane GA world most of us don't power on avionics before engine start. What I've done in my GA flying is after engine start, I have a pretty thorough "After Start" checklist that additionally captures all the essential steps for avionics setup. I don't taxi until those items are all done. Martin, I didn't see an after start check in your flow so maybe this is something to consider. I very much enjoy your videos.
You are right, I do not have an AFTER START section on my checklist. I do want to give myself a little flexibility as to where and when I get the ATIS, program the flight plan, etc. In a jet with ground power or APU, you can do all that before starting the engines, but as you said in the light GA world it's usually all done after engine start. Sometimes it makes sense to vacate the spot where I was parked quickly and defer other tasks to when/where I'm not in the way of others. At other times I have plenty of time after start-up. Granted, that should not be an excuse for taking off without the NAV setup completed.
Regards,
Martin
Excellent video!! Thank you@
You are welcome, Kevin!
- Martin
Nice video. Good you recognized your error/omission in not completing the flight plan. Your software is very easy for you to update on the fly. Good job. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, Ken!
- Martin
This is actually a hidden pro move! If you think you might get a re-route later, you can just enter the first waypoint or two and leave the rest out until you get that route change! You were just really ahead of the game for that!
Seriously though, you handled that really well. Ended up being a non-issue and only you (and now your viewers) would have known!
I see - I could have turned this into a positive! 😂
Thanks,
Martin
I took off with pitot cover on, another time without fuel caps. I thought I was thorough but I´m still learning after accumulating quite some flight hours. 1 foot off centerline, so you fixed the flightplan thing!!
Things happen…. That’s what flows and checklists are for. And that’s why I look at the landing gear THREE TIMES before each landing.
- Martin
I thought I saw you post a picture about you going to the airlines!?!? Congrats if so. Would love to hear more about your journey and decision process. Thanks for the great instructional videos you post.
Thanks, but that was an April Fools joke!
- Martin
@@martinpauly lol. You had me!
Thanks Martin.
My pleasure!
- Martin
Yup! Came from Germany/Switzerland to congest FL airspace with a Riddle callsign.
Hate I missed you. I am in Beaufort SC, just a few miles over the river.
You flew right over Wassaw Sound, the suspected location of the “Tybee Nuclear Bomb” lost in 1958 when an F-86 collided with a B-47 attempting to land at Hunter Airfield. Hunter was a SAC base at the time. The bomb was never found and is still out there buried deep in the mud…. There were no lives lost in the collision. The F-86 driver parachuted into the woods and was picked up by a family who proceeded to get him liquored up…😬
I had no idea this happened!
- Martin
Es ist eine sehr interessante Geschichte.
Plenty of Hangers available in Melbourne Australia if that helps. 😂😂
Ha - I’ll keep that in mind! 😂
- Martin
Hope you guys came through storms ok
Martin-you videos just keep getting better and better. I am curious though, now that you are temporarily in MLB (my home airport with an A-36), you seem reluctant to fly over water. You have the Bahamas close by with some of the most beautiful islands in the world an hour or two away. It is over open water. Even if you go to Palm Beach and go direct Freeport. Are we going to see you taking a trip over there? Keep up the great work!
We "fixed" that problem in late April. Stay tuned for a video...
- Martin
Not sure when you shot this video but if recent some of those ships may have been diverted from Baltimore. Another great video Martin.
This flight was in late January.
- Martin
You forgot one important reason for more traffic in FL. Who wants to visit Iowa! 🤔 Or Ohio for that matter, especially in the winter! 🤣
G,day Martin from Sydney Australia. Captured some film of nice coastal estuaries (Florida keys)?
The panel of N0TB is one of the best in the Bonanza flying the skyways today.
🌏🇦🇺
Thanks, John. I sure love how the new panel turned out!
- Martin
All dressed up with no place to go :D
I remember the days before GPS. Haha.
I do, too!
- Martin
I have a GNX375 however I find it much much quicker to whip together a flight plan on my phone, using ForeFlight and beam it to the Garmin even enroute. I always file direct and 99% of the time I get it so I don’t have to fuss around with airways and waypoints.
You are right, I could have sent the route from Garmin Pilot to the GTN. In that "oh crap" moment, though, my first thought was "how do I get the first waypoint into the GPS that ATC will likely turn me to". So I entered MALET manually into the GTN. From there, it was pretty easy to continue the edits.
Best regards,
Martin
29:03 Why would the controller offer changing from a longer headwind runway to a shorter crosswind runway? Was it for a more direct approach, or did he just mistake wind speed for direction? He sounded a bit confused.
The approach the controller offered was a more direct, straight-in path from where we were, but would have meant landing with a strong crosswind and briefing/programming a new approach. I felt it was easier to stick with what he had started, even if that meant five more minutes of flight time.
- Martin
Hey Martin, can you explain the rationale for turning on the pitot heat when in precip/clouds if the OAT is above freezing? Thanks!
Wouldn’t it just evaporate any moisture that enters thereby precluding a problem?
It shouldn't be a problem... in theory. In real life, I've seen airspeed indications get a little jumpy when flying through rain above freezing. Turning pitot heat on seems to eliminate that.
- Martin
Was that a Shorts at KMEL? +1 For the PA23 at KSAV as well.
Hey there Martin, you refuse 20° right Why would they suggest you to turn right if the wind is gonna pull you too far offshore, and how did you pick that up? That wasn’t good for you. Please, I wanna know.
I was quite aware of the strong winds aloft pushing me out towards the ocean. The controller probably has less awareness of that. I don't even know if the shoreline is depicted on their radar scopes.
- Martin
Martin, love the Sirius XM overlay on the 750! How do you do that?
Hi Landon, the SXM weather is coming in through the Garmin GDL 52. You can see it on the glare shield in my cockpit.
- Martin
A hangar along the FL coast? You’re lucky they let you taxi next to them. Aren’t wait times starting to equal the average life span?
Pretty much, yes!
- Martin
Martin, when are you getting a jet or a TBM or maybe in the new piper Furey M700?
"Never" is probably the correct answer. Not that I wouldn't like to fly a turboprop, but financially speaking that's a different league, one in which I cannot afford to play.
Regards,
Martin
@@martinpauly that kid on TH-cam has one. I don’t know how they afford that stuff. I don’t care if he did go to MIT.
Hi There Martin !
Aren’t You Suppose to Get Your Flight Plan Set BEFORE Take Off ?
Wouldn’t That Be Nice and Reduce Your Workload While in Flight ?
Yes, of course.
- Martin
Oh no! No flight plan.... Yeah, It's not hard to fly the beach from MLB to SAV. Just follow the beach. Easy peasy.
Sure, that works VFR. Under IFR, it's a little different, of course.
- Martin
@@martinpauly Yes. I also know a German who flies IFR on 45-minute flights VMC. Pretty sure it's a German thing.
If FL54 is close enough, I can help.
Thank you, Eric. It’s quite far away, plus our time here in Florida is coming to an end soon. I appreciate your comment, though.
Regards,
Martin
Martin that clamp on your dash right in front of you could be really dangerous to your face and head if you had an accident! Enjoy your videos - please do more with Doug.
That's a good point - thank you! That camera would be the first thing to rip off should an emergency landing be needed. We are also going to get four-point harnesses in the future.
- Martin
Martin thanks for the video. Looking forward to the Bash in the Bluegrass! 😀👍
I am a sport pilot and I enjoy your videos. Thank you
Very nice, Martin. I envy your landing, I seem to reserve my worst landings for flights with my wife or with a CFII…. 🧁😂
Thanks, James. Keep practicing those landings, and you’ll reliably make greaser landings!
- Martin
Good morning Martin call me a nerd but I thought I’d follow your flight plan. I haven’t been doing much GA lately. Is it possible to maybe in the comment section include your flight plan on some of these flights as if you were in the planning stages and we can kind of follow along, again thank you so much
Hey, also I’m trying to follow your checklist looks like a real nice checklist. Can you tell us a little bit more about that?
Good morning!
If you'd like to follow my flights in real-time, you can create an alert in FlightAware for my tail number (N70TB). It'll then alert you when I file a flight plan, take off, etc.
As for the checklist, there is some information here: martin.aero/wordpress/?page_id=321#faq-checklist
I'll have a video sometime later about my thoughts on checklist.
- Martin
@@martinpauly yeah this is working pretty good flight away. I would have to be real time I’m looking for something I can recover later. I was able to capture most of what the flight plan was and follow along as if I was flying it. It’s kind of a good technique, I’m able to practice, loading my charts, etc. evaluate different stuff. Yeah I was just thinking if you could just throw it in the comments maybe just what the plan route was there when you get changes could practice what you’re experiencing in the airplane
@@padsliderfranco9561 Ok, maybe I am not understanding your question. The comments for this video do indeed include the planned route: Route of flight: KMLB MALET T208 SMYRA V3 KELER KSAV, altitude: 9,000' MSL. Is that what you were looking for?
@@martinpauly my apologies. I don’t know how I missed it anyway, enjoy the flight immensely. Basically I was able to follow along and practice and brush up on some stuff. Thank you very much.
Wow….this worked really well…thanks again Martin
The bonanza Society had a TH-cam video that showed putting the flaps down first at the initial approach fix and not extending the gear until intercepting the final approach fix. Do you do that procedure or is that an option that they recommend? They were entering the initial approach fix at 120 kn and then extending the flaps brings it to 110. Extending the gear at the final approach fix automatically seem to allow the aircraft to descend at the proper glidepath. How true is this?
Good question. Let’s start with the gear: yes, lowering the gear at the final approach fix works great in many airplanes, including the Bonanza.
As for flaps, while I don’t see anything wrong with lowering them before the FAF, I don’t really see any advantages of doing that. If I want to slow to 110 KIAS, I reduce power. I bring out approach flaps sometime after the FAF (maybe around halfway to the runway). Full flaps only after landing is assured, so that in case of a go-around I don’t have to mess with the significant configuration change from full flaps to none.
I’ve also flown with Bonanza pilots who don’t use any flaps on an instrument approach until landing is assured. With the gear down, Bonanzas slow down quite well, so there are many ways which work to manage speed and energy on an approach - including the ABS-proposed method, of course.
I hope this helps!
- Martin
@@martinpauly Well I thought messing with configuration after the FAF upsets a stabilized approach? I extend my flaps around the mid scale of the glideslope or 1 mile from the FAF because I limit drag and increased fuel burn, then I hit the gear at GS intercept and by that time its small power changes to runway in sight. Then when landing is assured, I’ll use more flaps as needed. Guess it really personal preference. I saw this video on the Bonanza Society TH-cam channel. It was titled “By The Numbers.”
@@aviatortrucker6285 It upsets a stabilized approach no more than it upsets level flight leading up to the FAF. Either one requires pitch changes to remain stabilized.
Having said that, in the A36 it’s not a big deal to bring partial flaps out on an ILS or LPV approach - a gentle push on the yoke until the speed decreases a bit, and you’re all set. A good autopilot (like my Garmin GFC 600) will play through this easily.
- Martin
No worries. You could just navigate the filed route using your laptop. isn't technology wonderful?
You lost your manners on rollout - should have thanked your wife for praising your landing. 😮
I know, your are right! I must have been too focused on keeping the plane stable on the centerline…
- Martin
It goes to show doesn’t matter how much flight experience you have if we don’t take a breather and make sure everything is correct before takeoff. This is what happens. Question would be what if you forgot what you first checkpoint was suppose to be? Thank goodness this was just a minor discrepancy that did not lead to a bad ending. Pretty woman equal distractions!
Comment is kind of dramatic! His not loading FP is a minor thing. It is actually good practice because we have to reload FP often. Martin is an excellent pilot. By the way if he forgot something he only has to ask. Not a big deal I the real world. But you are correct better to load what you can before takeoff. If you forget easy to,fix.
@@user-iw3mr2lv6f suppose he or anybody else was taking off into hard IFR, or even worse hard IFR at night. Anything you got a fool around with after you takeoff because you could’ve done it or should’ve done it on the ground is dramatic. This is why we have all kinds ofgeneral aviation accidents. Even look at TN fly girl who didn’t load anything or didn’t know how to load anything. What did she do? She tried to do everything in the air when she should’ve done it on the ground. I have even heard on TH-cam of a high time pilot with five figure hours crash because he was busy changing or fumbling around with something that should’ve been done on the ground. It’s part of your checklist. It wasn’t that hard in IFR but where was his head? It was busy with the flight plan when it should’ve been checking for traffic. Just saying.
We are humans we all have should’ve could’ve would’ve. If it was hard IFR Martin would have had his FP in for sure.
As I said better to do ahead of takeoff. Next time you make a mistake I hope you don’t judge yourself to hard.
We are humans!😀🙏🏻❤️
So… not knowing what my cleared (or filed) route is would be a problem. I always write my clearance down on paper (on my clip board). I also have an email with my filed route which I can bring up on my phone or the iPad.
Worst case: I can ask the controller what my cleared route is. Kind of embarrassing, but better than heading in the wrong direction. Another useful tool is to ask ATC for an initial heading, so I can go in roughly the right direction while programming the GPS.
Regards,
Martin