Just to confirm the cop calling her “baby,” can confirm that southern people call kids and younger girls “baby.” It’s a soft and soothing endearment, they’re literally calling you a baby to soothe and calm. Nothing weird intended! Not only for kids either. Older women will call younger women baby when they’re taking a motherly position.
Came here to say that! Her confusion over it was a bit confusing to me before I realized it’s a south thing 😅 I get called “baby” so much by older people I forgot it’s not an every where thing
The most south place I've lived is CO, but I still think it was pretty clear he meant it as a soothing endearment. His tone was VERY grandfatherly (even if the officer is too young to be that age, not sure). I hope that not too many people took it in a creepy way.
The stepfathers response is 100% a trauma response. He lost the love of his life and he trying not to lose the other part of his life that he cares so much about. His world has changed irreversibly in the worst way anyone’s life could change
Back in training for an old job, one of my coworkers lost her dad. 3 hours away. She couldn't leave and be by his side and basically HAD to finish the training otherwise she would've never been able to get the job, I remember her reacting the same way. She even "passed out" at some point and just laid there tears falling out, breathing, conscious but unresponsive with a blank stare. Even her hands went cold. Its insane how fragile we are man, it shines clearly when we lose someone we never imagined living life without...
Exactly! He is not smiling when talking about his wife because she is gone. He is in grief! He is smiling when talking about Carly because she is still here. It's easier to talk about her.
@@permanentlytired4304 when you see it’s having a bad effect on your friend mentally i would hope you try and help them. For a 15 year old it is logical to go to their parents. I wish my friends would help me if im spiraling even by “snitching” on me
Hi Stephanie, can your cover a case that happemed in Turkey? Two 19 year old women were murdered and decapitated by a 19 year old man and police did nothing even though he has been harassing one of these girls for 5 years. We, as Turkish women, feel unsafe and we need exposure to make this case global. Please make a video about this. Thank you
27:56 I think people forget that it’s not uncommon for when a child kills one of their parents and/or siblings the remaining parent often sides with them because that’s all they have left. He’s also still in shock and clearly believes that Carly didn’t do this on purpose.
I came here to say the same thing. Also whilst I can understand why people think it’s sus that he’s so attached to her after just five years, if he doesn’t have kids (I didn’t hear them mention whether he does or not), then it’s understandable that he would become attached to his step children, especially if he’d always wanted a family.
@@CarysCreatesThings and they were around each other during Covid it seems. Which would create even more of a bond. The thought that a step parent can’t have a close bond with a child is crazy to me.
people who don't have step parents or step children don't have the understanding that after a certain point, the step part doesn't really apply. it's there because it's what fits legally if that makes sense. i always considered my step father my father and even if i called him by his real name, he's my dad through and through. especially when she was so young, it's so easy to attach. i know this crime is horrible but i really do not feel comfortable with people implying theres some underlying weirdness without proof. he's just broken. you can tell in his reaction on the footage.
@@clover1113 exactly my point. You can tell he’s utterly destroyed but doesn’t want to believe a child he helped raise could do something like this. The implication that there’s something weird going on infuriates me
Her poor friends. They seem like good people who came rushing to her aid, trying to keep her from doing drugs, and now they have to live with everything that happened. The murder is obviously the most tragic, but there are so many more victims on the side lines in cases like this. It’s just so awful.
I do think the friends and mother probably overreacted about the weed, its more of a medicine than a drug & she clearly needed it at the time, the other stuff is more worrying.
@@roundsdm If she has bipolar, weed can actually be really bad for her. It can affect people with bipolar much more severely and even cause psychosis or trigger psychotic/paranoid episodes. She probably most definitely didn't need it, even if she felt like she did.
Pot itself isn’t that serious, but it’s important to note that she’s 14 years old with possible Bipolar Disorder. In situations when someone is so young with mental health issues, weed can become dangerous.
That's what broke me. I was moderately okay up until then, but my dog literally checks on me if I drop something in the shower, or wakes me up if I make a weird noise in my sleep. Dogs are EXTREMELY aware of what is going on with their humans. You could tell they knew something was wrong, but they couldn't do anything to help.
@@lunalovegood9740their sense of smell is also very strong. They could probably tell something was wrong through the heavy smell of blood from far. Poor doggos😢
That man is not emotionless, this is a man disassociating clearly not over what happened, i mean how could anyone get over something like that in such a short amount of time. i feel so bad for the mother all she tried to do is being a good parent, to care enough about her daughter to take away her phone, i feel bad for the husband too not only has he seen his wife dead but he also saw his kid holding a gun of course he'd lunge and try to take it away from her. Idk why theres even a discourse about him smiling at the kid, he JUST lost his wife the only thing he has left from her is her daughter, he probably blames himself thinking he failed both his wife and his daughter
@@poetsheart Especially for how fast this case went to trial. Usually the victim has years to come to terms with everything, get through therapy, grieving, etc. He had 6 months!
yeah, if you raise somebody, are proud of how smart and accomplished you are, and they try to kill you, can you just switch to ‘they’re a monster” without serious and intense years of therapy? im listening to this case and i still can’t fully accept her age, i keep thinking about her as older because everything she does is so calculated and teens tend to be driven by impulsive and emotions.
@@MadMan_123there’s a difference between it being job being around gory scenes such as this and not. It should not be normalized to be okay around dead bodies.
tbh there’s a lot of things that can play into this, like desensitization, especially now in this generation all these “edge” lord kids are into gore videos and all kinda gross stuff.
And then who has that much experience around dead bodies to even know if they're squeamish or not. Like, I get it funerals. But, how many funerals have school kids been to?
I'm a nurse in a german psychiatric clinic and most of the teenager with a psychotic episode got it from smoking weed. The danger for people with a predisposition is totally underestimated...
@@Jay-nj1rq I never said i does. Pls read again. I think in many cases it can help people. But I'm now working for eight years in the child and adolescent psychiatry and that is totally my experience
I wanted to comment the same. I'm also German with mental health disorders and my psychiatrist told me to stay away from weed at all cost. it can genuinely be dangerous to those that are already vulnerable to psychotic episodes.
the noise the mother made... thats so heartbreaking. i feel so bad for her edit: i understand that wasnt the mom specifically making that noise but the rest of my comment still stands like my heart feels for her loss of life so i wont delete the support for her ❤
I don’t think that’s been confirmed as being her mother making that noise. watched others line Law&Crime comment on this case, and I recall them saying it could be Carly singing to the dogs to calm them down.
@@itdontmattah creepy if it was her singing to the dogs but the way she seems to react to the noise makes me believe it was her mother. i hope you are right and that that wasnt a cry in pain
@@NoahachiI don’t think it’s fair to assume the adults in her life are a reason for why she turned out the way she did in this situation. Everyone can be a killer, all it takes is for someone or something to push you over an edge. She does seem to have mental issues. That could be a huge factor. weed can also cause early psychosis. Knowing the mom’s background, I assume that Carly knew how her mom would react. That could possibly be Carlys someone and something that pushed her. We don’t know if Carly was abused/neglected or not but given the fact that the friends were comfortable enough to tell the mom about this situation, I don’t think the mother was murdered for any good reason.
@@RiverLotus well of course they are responsible of how she turned out this way, she is an unsupervised teen with an on going addiction who ended up killing her mother, if thats not neglect i dont know whatvthat is
@@Noahachido you realise that kids will always find a way to get what they want if they desperately want to get it ? There are many ways to procure Dr*gs if you want them. So no , by no means is it neglect . Please think before spouting bs.
10:10 as one of your southern viewers, I can confirm the "baby" is a southern thing. Our way of speaking can seem weird since we're all about respect and even have similar layers of formality to Korean. (Not the same exact because Korean has many more layers I've found while learning it) Him using "baby" is used by adults towards children, mainly towards younger women however may be used for boys around elementary age. Words used in similar context are "sweetie" and "honey." I would also like to note that even though the officer spoke kind of fast, his tone was more nurturing/comforting. Once again a tone used mostly by adults towards younger children. This could very much just be because she was speaking with a much softer voice that sounded a lot younger than she is.
Was coming here to say the same! It actually never occurred to me that ppl might think a cop (anyone) referring to a stranger as "baby" was strange. I waited tables, worked retail thru my 20s, & I always referred to customers by saying "hun" "babe" "sweetie". Edit: And I didn't read your full comment until after I posted mine so I didn't see the examples of "sweetie" or "honey" 😂
This is very common when adults are interacting with a young child... Boys definitely do lose their "young child" treatment younger than girls/women do... the elderly receive that treatment, too
Mississippian here! I was coming to make the same comment! I work in a nursing home and catch myself referring to our residents as mama, granny, and papa all of the time!
Today, in Turkey/ Istanbul, a man named Semih Çelik murdered two 19 year old girls, İkbal Uzuner and Ayşenur Halil. He slit Ayşenur's throat and dismembered İkbal Uzuner on top of the city walls. He threw her various body parts to the street, including her severed head. Can you please make a video about it where you investigate the case?
I have a friend who was near-fatally stabbed by her son during a psychotic episode. She talks with him on the phone multiple times every day, and keeps her guest room set up for when he gets released. There truly is no love like that of a parent. Though Heath is only her stepfather, stranger things have happened than forgiveness.
My half siblings on my dad's side while they've (to my knowledge) never tried to kill him, they have caused him to go to jail twice, once for snitching that he was at the time selling pills (they were his pain pills and while bad yes, he was doing it to pay for bills so we wouldn't get evicted) because they were pissed at him for not giving them money (that he clearly didn't have anyway). The second time they lied to his parole officer saying he was planning to leave the state because again they were pissed at him and I had to see my dad through a glass window on Christmas which was great. They were also so verbally abusive towards him, I've heard them curse his name since I was a child as they were all adults by the time I was around, and yet every single time he forgave them. Then when he died they focused that energy on my mom and me mostly, and tortured us for about a year before they eventually left the state, and truly I have no idea how that man forgave them as many times as he did because I don't have a single bone in my body that wants to forgive them.
She is not psychotic. She is just a Tumblr girl. The things she wrote are prevalent in Tumblr and fanfiction sites. And in those discord channels. These kids are in echo chambers every time they are online. Think of the Columbine fangirls, that kind of crowd.
@@jinndiaz3752 he had a psychotic episode, meaning he was not in the right state of mind when doing the stabbing. He probably regretted it when he snapped out of it. Psychotic episodes are terrifying and are a sign of an underlying condition.
The most disturbing part to me was the way she casually picked the phone up and texted her stepfather as her now deceased mother. The way he knew it was unusual but didn't particularly suspect anything because, why would he?
Honestly, worse than that is that she does it while her mom is *dying*, not even dead. You can hear her say “help me” while Carly sings “noOoOoOoOOo” and texts her stepdad. It’s so disturbing.
I don't get how people think the stepdad was involved! The guy is clearly traumatized, and maybe he thinks supporting Carly is what his wife would've wanted!
Exactly! And it’s not uncommon for a parent or stepparent to side with the child after they do something like this. He’s clearly traumatized and thinks Carly didn’t do this intentionally
@@lafayette8240 yeah, i imagine if the mother was lightly injured and the stepdad was killed no one would question if she supported her. Also, given her bad relationship with her dad and the fact that they were basically locked in a house together for over a year its not that surprising that they bonded
Youre a joke. Lol. Making broad generalizations like that make you look so stupid. Did your mother jump around with you while she was pregnant? Fucking retard lol@@getraptureready777
Hello Stephanie can you please cover a case that recently happend in Turkey? two girls (19) were brutally murdered and decapited by a 19 year old boy in istanbul who has been harassing one of the girls for 5 years but the police did nothing. turkish women are being killed everyday and our government doesn't care about us we feel very unsafe and we need all the exposure we need to make this case global and make a change. PLEASE consider making a video about this. thank you!
she went to my school and her mom taught at my school, i’ve seen her and mrs smiley around in the halls i would’ve never expected something to tragic to happen. Mrs Smiley was so loved by all of her students. They made a memorial on her class room door. although i didn’t know her personally it broke my heart knowing that something like this could happen to such a sweet lady.
Yeah same here. I a lot of my friends were taught by her and they all had nice things to say. It’s so heartbreaking what happened. I hope they still have the letters on her door
Wow. Thanks for sharing. My guess is she likely became schizophrenic from smoking weed at too young of an age. Some people are just genetically predisposed to it…
Sorry for commenting again, LOL, but "she was JUST smoking weed, it's not a big deal" isn't a very informed response when we're talking about a teenager with a schizophrenic parent (if he does indeed have it). I have several family members with schizophrenia, and I am diagnosed with schizotypal and was told by my psychiatrist to not do any type of drugs, not even weed, because it can worsen my symptoms and trigger schizophrenia. My brother's schizophrenia was also triggered by smoking weed. So yeah, it's not harmless if you have a genetic predisposition. I wish more people were aware of the risk.
Yes, i have a friend with strong schizophrenia in her family and she refuses to ever try weed because it triggered her brother to develop it and he spent months in psychosis. It absolutely happens.
Yes! She's only 14 so there's lots of time for the brain to keep developing and has dramatically increased her chances of actually developing a psychotic disorder. The earlier you start, the greater the odds. It's just one of those things folks generally don't think about because there are worse things out there but hearing the psychiatrist say there's no association when mine recommends I stop for this exact reason. Then again, I'm an adult who previously had a prescription for the devil's lettuce, not just some teen who is doing it for funzies. Girl's going to get a rude awakening if she finds herself developing schizophrenia for real while in prison and she gets carted to the prison psych ward. There's a popular TH-camr who went to jail and shares many of her experiences and I had a feeling that if this girl was actually as clever as people think she is she wouldn't have been in this situation in the first place and she'd still be out smoking with her buds and ugly cried because she's sorry she got caught and now she's serving life.
I hate how normalize weed is nowadays, yeah there's people who can live a normal life smocking weed, but to people with anxiety, depression or toc can alter the chemistry on their brains, and the kids now don't get it because the media portrait weed like natural and edgy.
Omg, thanks for this information. Ill have to look more into this, I have never been into drugs and I don’t think I would ever but this is good to know as someone who has schizophrenia in their family. I have always been scared that it will get triggered one of these days because I’m already very anxious and stressed.
the moaning/singing isnt the mother, if you listen before you can hear the mom say "help me" and the singing is actually carly singing "noooo" to helping her mom. she is truly evil.
I was wondering about that because she got up and went back there after she put the phone down I thought it was odd. The news said she just broke into a song but I thought I heard someone in pain moaning then she sang. But they did not mention that it was her mom making noise. So this confirms what I thought I heard. Thanks.
I bear "I love you" and then idk what I hear after that it sounds like humming a scale. And if you zoom in on the video her face looks like her lips are moving when this noise happens. Very creepy
That last breath from the mom was haunting and distressing as hell, agonal breathing is terrifying. Everything about this is just so sad and horrible. I really did not expect to be shown the audio of that, my heart hurts
Please please please cover the GISB case in Malaysia. 400 children sexually abused, over 100 religious teachers arrested. Religious institutions have a certain kind of protected status in our country, and this case will never fully be covered the way it should be by local media.
I'm never going to understand how it is that churches of all denominations all around the world allow their workers to get away with these kinds of evilness😢😡😢
10:10 As somebody from the south that “I don’t know baby” is 100% a southern thing. It’s just how we talk to each other especially when it comes to younger people, it’s a part of southern hospitality and how community is valued down here.
Confirming this. It's especially common with adults (of either gender) to refer to young girls by that. In the south (and likely some other areas), it indicates affection and protectiveness but doesn't carry any romantic or infantilizing connotations.
Yea southern people have nicknames we call for literally anyone and even strangers. Baby, sweetie, sweetheart, honey, darling… It’s just something we do, part of our culture and it’s in a endearing thing for us. And I love it.
the guy got shot and he's being accused of planning it all and committing SA, it's insane but in line with today's gender sentencing disparity and the state of family court and CPS, huge societal bias
Oof, this hits hard. My family actually had a VERY similar case like this happen. In February of 2023, my uncle's stepdaughter shot him in the face and then attempted to shoot her mom. My uncle raised that girl from the time she was super small because her own father was absent, and he treated her like she was his own. The shooting just came out of nowhere, and it was premeditated. My uncle was a gun owner, and he was very strict about gun safety and kept the gun locked securely in a safe at home. His stepdaughter was sneaky and would watch every time he put the gun in the safe, and she memorized the code to the safe. Well, one day, my uncle was in bed taking a nap, and his wife was in the shower. His stepdaughter got the gun out of the safe and went to the bedroom, and she attempted to shoot him while he was sleeping. She missed, though, and the bullet his the headboard, which woke him up. He immediately got out of bed, and she slammed the bedroom door and moved further down the hall. When he opened the bedroom door, she shot him in the face with his own 9mm hollow point. Her mom heard the shot, and she got out of the shower and ran out to see what happened. That's when the girl aimed the gun at her mom's face, but we think she accidentally hit the safety because the gun didn't fire. When she turned the gun over to see why it jammed, she hit the clip release, and it fell out of the gun. It spooked her, so she dropped the gun and ran. When she shot my uncle, the bullet went in through his cheek and into the roof of his mouth, which completely destroyed his hard palate and damaged his soft palate. It also shattered his jaw and his nose, fractured his cheekbone and orbital socket, and burst all the blood vessels in his eyes. My uncle was transferred to a teaching hospital in Iowa City, where he was kept sedated for multiple days, but he miraculously survived. He saved his own life, too. After he was shot, he went back into his bedroom and shut the door. He took off his pajama pants, rolled them up, and stuffed them in his mouth. He then got himself dressed, and his wife made him sit down on the stairs to wait for the ambulance. My stepcousin was charged with two counts of attempted murder, and the Iowa district attorney wanted to charge her as an adult. I'm just realizing I never said my stepcousin's age, she was THIRTEEN. My aunt and uncle didn't want her charged as an adult, so instead of putting her in a juvenile facility, the district just dropped the charges altogether and let that girl off scott-free without even a slap on the wrist. My aunt and uncle obviously don't feel safe with her in the home, so she was placed in a foster home where there are actually other kids present. The foster mother seems to think my stepcousin is a complete angel and God's gift to this world, and told my aunt and uncle that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the girl. I'm sorry, but normal teenagers don't attempt to murder their parents. I was a severely mentally ill teenager and I never once thought about murdering my parents. Well, the foster mom is now trying to demand my aunt and uncle pay child support for the girl, so they're dealing with a bunch of court cases. Unfortunately there isn't much information about the case online, since my aunt and uncle didn't feel like talking to the press, and the courts decided not to release my stepcousin's name or much details about the case due to her age. This case happened in Waterloo, Iowa, on 911 Leavitt Street. I can leave a link to one of the few news stories below if anybody is interested, but it's not very much information. There is minimal damage to the outside of my uncle's face, just a small scar where the bullet entered. However, the roof of his mouth is completely gone. They tried to do skin grafts, but his body kept rejecting them and they died, and now there's too much scar tissue, so his diet is now severely limited. The bullet is also still lodged in his jaw, they can't remove it without risking severe and permanent nerve damage. www.kcrg.com/video/2023/02/16/teen-charged-waterloo-shooting/
That’s so crazy I really wonder why. I’ve had thoughts of killing my parents but it’s only because of the abuse I went through. I never acted on it. To act on it has to be some sort of mental thing. It’s like the brain isn’t releasing that guilt feeling for killers.
Sad story but honestly your aunt and uncle did anyone a favor by dropping all charges so she can potentially try to harm someone else . That’s pretty scary .
Especially since it's a child too? I feel like most people would instinctively go with a nickname when interacting with a kid they don't know, especially if they have children of their own.
@@v_doll yes, children especially. They are children. We’ve taken all the humanity and love out of the world because we only listen to bad news. But if I see a child fall off their bike and get hurt, I will most likely call them sweetie when addressing them. They are hurt. They want attention and caring. I’m also much older and experienced in dealing with these life experiences.
I don't think Heath's (the dad) done anything wrong, personally. I think he's just traumatized and in denial, as many families would be in this situation. We see behavior like this from biological parents all the time (where they support their child no matter what crime they commit, up to and including murdering other family members they also loved) and no one thinks there's something fishy goin on. I think it's really sad that he's so in denial, but it's not our place as outsiders to tell someone else how to grieve/how fast their process needs to go. And it's gross the internet wants to make that out to be something questionable.
Legit, I'm listening to Stephanie list all the reasons for people to suspect the stepdad and all I can think of is "wow, he really loves his family". Any good parent would only talk about the good in their children, even exaggerating. Just because people aren't biologically related, doesn't mean they can't be a close family
Hi Stephanie, in Turkey/ Istanbul, a man named Semih Çelik murdered two 19 year old girls, İkbal Uzuner and Ayşenur Halil. He slit Ayşenur's throat and dismembered İkbal Uzuner on top of the city walls. He threw her various body parts to the street, including her severed head. Can you please make a video about it where you investigate the case?
I think what he mouthed was “it’s going to be ok……ok” I think he was trying to reassure her because he probably can’t mentally handle losing his child in addition to his wife. I can’t imagine losing my entire family in one day like that. Poor man. Poor lady.
I don’t think I’d like to live with a criminal who is a member of my family who killed another family member that I love Just to not be alone!! I’ve never been in such a situation, but this justification u guys r making for the stepfather is just weird!
@@_stargirl sis ur right I’ll never fathom it until I try it which I hope will never happen to me or u or anyone .. but u really think u need to go through this experience to know how u’d feel towards a criminal? If this happened to u and one of your family members killed another family member-your mother, your sister, are u not sure if u would empathize with them or not? Would it be okay with u if u’re the victim and ur family forgave and defended ur sister who killed you without reason just because they don't want to lose another daughter?! Like pls, we’re talking about a criminal murderer who thought they had the right to end someone's life for personal reasons!! am I exaggerating here or is it perhaps because we’re so used to hearing about murder crimes nowadays that it has become not the atrocity it should be? Idk
Thank you for putting out the disclaimer about people being diagnosed with bipolar not always being violent. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder almost a year ago and i’ve been incredibly hesitant about telling anyone in my life for fear that they’ll think i’ll rage out at them or something.
As a 26 year old living with bipolar 2, I was diagnosed over 10 years ago. I understand the hesitance to disclose this part of yourself, but my best advice is to just tell them. You are more than your diagnosis, you’re the same person who you’ve always been. If they stop fucking with you, they weren’t meant to be in your life. Much love 🫶🏽🫶🏽
@@onlinegf9590 As a 27 y/o with Bipolar II who was diagnosed a few years ago, I totally agree. People have to accommodate you, and they have to learn what bipolar is. How will they know, if everyone's hiding? So many people just don't know what it's life to be held together with zip ties. Time to burst their bubble 💙
It is pretty negatively stigmatized. I can get why you wouldn’t want to tell people. But I hope that if you do, the people in your life will feel same about you, and treat you the same as before finding out
It’s better to keep it to yourself unless you know you can explain your diagnosis and triggers to them and encourage them to do there own research to help understand what’s going on with you otherwise most people will use it as a weapon against you
I dont really see anyone else mentioning this, and its not earth-shattering, but she wrote in her journal something like "innocence is life greatest illusion" and her stepdad mentioned theyd play video games together. In skyrim, to enter one of the assassin guild hideouts, the door asks you "what is lifes greatest illusion" and the passphrase is "innocence, my brother." This just sort of stuck out to me as something small, yet telling, that slipped under the radar. It was so subtle. If you dont know, you really dont know. The speed of the trial also shocked me. I wish all the peace and comfort in the world to the victims loved ones
Never thought I’d see someone from my school end up on one of these. I didn’t know either of them personally but I have friends who did, it’s crazy to think I was walking the same halls as her.
my friend's ex boyfriend that we went to high school with murdered his next girlfriend after my friend broke up with him. he was abusive and threatened my friend when we were in school followed her with a knife to her car threatened her and chased her down the road. Thank god she told the school that made him leave her alone. he killed his next girlfriend though and she went to school with us. When they were dating i hated him even before he started harassing her because he would say evil things racist jokes jokes about hurting animals and making fun of nine eleven victims. I knew he was psycho even before he did that stuff.
I literally just watched footage of the murder. You can literally see her hide the gun behind her back and slowly walk toward her mother in another room and all you hear is three gunshots and the mothers scream. Then she walks back into view and texts somebody. It's really disturbing, even when you don't see anything.
Watched the whole trial on Recovery Addict's channel. This kid was so calm and dead eyed when they talked about her mother. She only cried when she was faced with the cost of her actions. Nothing about how she hurt her own mother or pew-pewed her step-dad who was mouthing "I love you" to her at the end of the trial.
She was texting her stepdad on her mom's phone pretending to be her mom after she murdered her.. She wanted to know when he was going to be back home because she wanted to murder him too. She had told her friends a while ago that she wanted to murder her mom and stepdad, they didn't think that she was actually going to do it. I'm still in utter shock!!
People really need to stop calling it creepy for a man to express love towards a kid. If youre sexualizing that its your Own internal association. If he was a woman I highly doubt people would call his display of affection so creepy.
Americans are literally in a moral panic about that. I'm not even a native and NEVER it would pass through my mind to interpret that line negatively as it was. That's weird. I'm a Brazilian and although I have issues with certain parts of southern culture in the US (like conservatism and racism) Southern American English is the best English. And that's one of the reasons.
@@lovingyou9921 yeah, for “coddling” her…Not for being creepy (which is the overall narrative of interpretation here). If he were a woman, the topic of creepiness wouldn’t be brought up. Like you said, it’d be a matter of “coddling” right? So why aren’t people criticising him for coddling her? Why would a woman calling her “baby” be seen as coddling and not being creepy in the same scenario? That’s the issue being raised here. If it were a woman people would interpret her behaviour as motherly. For men it’s not seen equally as fatherly but creepy instead
I find her more creepy than him, he is just sad , trying to keep his little family together, it feels like a family was his dream and can’t accept what happened.
And the fact that theres people out there calling her “poor girl”,”but shes just a child” its just disgusting her being 15 doesn’t take the fact that she murdered her mother and then tried to do the same with her stepfather
@@biggusdickus7530 It’s appalling that you can’t empathize with a mentally unstable child dealing with divorced parents, a drug-addicted father, heavy SSRI medications, withdrawal, and trauma. She’s carrying more than anyone should. How much pain can she endure? She did something horrible, but she’s a victim of a disease and a society that fails to understand her. She should be punished, but as a mentally ill person, not locked up with criminals for life. Her psychiatrist should be held accountable for prescribing SSRI medications to a bipolar child without mood stabilizers, and her mother should never have left a gun accessible in a home with mentally unstable children. U.S. gun laws require secure storage, especially around children or mentally ill individuals, with some states having even stricter rules.
I will say, the way the stepfather is acting is just like how Sydney Powell’s dad acted on the stand. I’m confident that they’re both just loving fathers completely blindsided by senseless violence 💔
Exactly! That same case came to my mind too, I don't like how people jumped to call their interaction "creepy", he may just be a caring stepfather who is trying to process the loss of two people he loved and with whom he recently just formed a family
I took Zoloft as a kid, it made me dissociate and stare at walls for hours. My mom used the word "zombie" when telling my doctor, and they ended up taking me off of it. I was on another medication that made me very aggressive, and I would punch my brothers violently, and they took me off that. There are studies that show weed use can cause psychotic episodes and contribute to schizophrenia.. These same studies show that if you have psychotic symptoms present before ever using the drug, weed use can make those psychotic symptoms much worse. In her case, I don't have anything to say in defense of her actions; killing someone is unforgivable, especially killing your family members in cold blood.
It's hard to get meds right for the doctors and yourself. I'm on Zoloft and I can function through my day normally. However while others gave me the same experience that you described.
Yep. Came here to mention pretty much the same. I don't disagree with the verdict. But I'm bipolar with psychotic features and comorbid ADHD and every time they've put me on an antidepressant, even with a mood stabilizer, especially on Zoloft, I went violent - not suicidal. Granted I was cognizant enough even with psychosis symptoms present I wouldn't have killed anyone but I had to break and beat on stuff to get it out my system (yes, even as an adult) because I was so agitated and impulsive. Also weed will trigger psychosis in me where meth nor crack never did. And as far as her ADHD assessment, she's high IQ (which masks performance issues) and the questionnaire is very subjective especially to someone lacking insight and other's cognitive and behavioral experiences for comparison. She may not perceive herself having issues relaxing if that's her experience of what it means to relax, for example. The struggle can be invisible in high IQ patients but the social and reasoning deficits will still ruin your life. I just want Carly to get a better psych eval while in prison. I don't want to see her spend basically her entire life behind bars when there were other factors her defense did shit-all to do their homework on that very well could have been the case. Her body language doesn't mean anything, she's 15, on psychotropic meds that still haven't been adjusted properly, and still hasn't even processed what she did when her brain isn't even fully developed.
I have heard SOO many cases of someone with Bipolar ii being put on an ssri and having a psychotic break. I was put on one a few months back and it completely fucked with me (I have adhd and bipolar) and it caused paranoid delusions including voices, i recognized it immediately and told my doctor and as soon as I was off it went away. I don't understand how they could say her medication switch wasn't part of it, not defending her but it definitely played a part. Too much serotonin on a bipolar brain can cause horrible symptoms that can completely distort your thinking and actions. Also I very much love Stephanie but she states in this video that hallucinating isn't as common with bipolar ii, yes it is. It's extremely common. 1 out of 4 people with bipolar experience hallucinations.
13:13 watch the white retriever. That one knows something is seriously wrong. Watch the way the ears are pressed down and the way the body moves tightly and how it checks Carly every couple seconds. It knows.
Dogs can sense and understand a lot I think dogs have even been trained to help people who suffer from a few different mental illnesses like schizophrenia (I could be wrong tho so feel free to correct me) but they seem to be able to tell sometimes when things like delusions and that come on, I know that might not be the exact same here but it reminds me of it cause of DID and the doggoes, etc.
I think he doesn’t smile as much when talking abt his wife bc he literally can’t think of her happily after he saw her in that state. Whereas with Carly he’s probably still in denial and or trying to rationalize it in his head and I do believe she has charmed him to side with her.
Hello stephanie, two young girls were brutally murdered in Turkey yesterday. The killer's name is Semih Çelik. Can you make a video about this and carry the voices of women in Turkey to the global stage?
Another thing to note about this case is that supposedly, according to her friends, Carly had attempted to contact her biological father and her mother was worried about her safety and started taking her phone at night and would check her social media messages to make sure they weren't talking. As a result, Carly complained to her friends that her mom was too strict and started keeping burner phones. This was on top of hiding underage drinking and vaping. Her mom was also worried for her mental health and was the one who got her help because again according to her friends, she also SH. Which is why her friends ran to her mom in the first place to get her help when they were worried about her behavior. It seems like her mom "being too strict" (just trying to help and protect her) was clearly the motive behind the case, as is in most cases of teens horrifically murdering their parents. Which makes the case even more sad, to realize she killed her mom who was doing so much to help her. I also think it's important to point out that her "making such a stupid decision despite supposedly being incredibly smart" and crying hysterically at the trial is clear signs her decision was based on impulse. A lot of people are confused by these behaviors, but it seems very clear to be teenage impulsiveness mixed with severe mental health issues that cause impulsiveness, on top of 5 days before the murder having her meds switched which would only amplify her existing mental health issues. Yes she is smart and manipulative, but she made a horrendous impulsive decision in the heat of the moment based on her emotions. "Smart" people can do stupid things. You can look "calm" and make an impulsive choice. Having severe mental health issues also does not automatically make one "insane" or "psychotic" at the time of a crime. Mental illness is a spectrum and someone can have a warped perception and unstable emotions while also still being fully in control of their actions. You can acknowledge someone is severely mentally unwell while also acknowledging they CHOSE to do a horrible thing. Two things can be true at the same time and acknowledging she was mentally unwell doesn't take away from her CHOOSING to harm others. She clearly did not think through the consequences of her actions in the heat of the moment, and is why yes she did indeed only cry during the trial because she was upset at the consequences of what she chose to do. I think some people have started taking the laws around insanity a bit too literally. Someone can be ruled not insane at the time of a crime but still be mentally unstable. This in no way is meant to justify anything she did, but rather give an explanation as to why she chose to do such a horrible stupid thing, especially when supposedly she's extremely "intelligent" and clearly charming and manipulative. She had plenty of opportunities to stop what she was doing, like call 911 and get her mother help when her mother was crying out for help, but she instead chose to keep going and attempt to kill someone else which clearly showed it was a choice and she was aware of what she was doing. She acted out on impulsive thoughts due to her emotions because she didn't want to take accountability for her actions when her mother found her vapes. Also side note, while weed doesn't make people homicidal or aggressive, it does have interactions with Lexapro which again she was only on for 5 days (new psych meds cause a ton of side effects until the body adjusts). There is also a thing called weed psychosis which happens to people who have psychiatric disorders that make them prone to psychosis, **but no she was not in a state of psychosis. I just feel it's important to point out for those who downplay the potential affect on a 14 yr old's brain. I'm an adult who uses cannabis daily and I've experienced weed psychosis and it's definitely a real thing and pretty terrifying. **Obviously she was not in psychosis so it doesn't pertain to her but that doesn't mean "weed is just weed" and can't ever affect someone.
Thank you so much for all of this. I was a "troubled" child when I was younger due to a combination of abuse and trauma, mental illness, medication problems, and more. Watching this girl was like watching a younger version of myself, and some of the misinformative things Stephanie said were genuinely upsetting to me. Obviously there's never an excuse for murder, but man, I have been medicated in such a way that I truly 100% believed there were no consequences in reality. That if I died, I would just get back up carefree. Medication can fuck you up if you're given the wrong thing.
Thank you for spending the time to text this. For those who read and understand, this makes so much sense. Mental Health cases arent always black and white, especially in this day and age.
Did you watch the same video as everyone else? There was nothing impulsive about her actions. She was cold & calculated. She didn't freak out. She's a psychopath. She purposely killed her mother & waited to kill her stepfather. She's selfish & evil. Her tears are fake.
she may have been talked into it tbh. like there's talks abt her step father almsot grooming her. but i think the bio dad may smth to do with it. well the drug part most likely.
I am not by any means defending her when I say this: You have to consider her age and the court room environment. That is a high stress place to be, and a trial is nothing easy. She is only 14. Her crying is very much normal to me. Is it a sign of remorse? Debatable. But people cry for other reasons than remorse. I have known a good many people who just cry out of stress, and it is undeniable that an environment like that will prove stressful on a child, regardless of guilt
Why is it insane? Are regret, anxiety, grief or distress impossible feelings for a murderer to have? I think pretending that murderers are one-sided caricatures prevents us from understanding the psychology behind crime in general. It would be way more insane if she didn't show any feelings, no?
As a mental health professional, I’m not defending this girl at all, because even if she was schizophrenic, it does NOT excuse murder. I will say this though: Marijuana can absolutely induce and exacerbate symptoms of psychosis. I have seen this happen often in my career. You need to be extremely cautious of any psychoactive drugs when you have mental health problems.
agreed. I looked up people's experience on velaxin and found a forum. the main advice is never ever take alcohol and drugs if you have severe depression and predisposition to schizophrenia. weed included thank god I stay away from drugs or it I would've been dead already
@bloochoo2870 if you read the comment carefully, she is not excusing the girl. The girl is guilty as hell. This comment is just clarifying that weed can aggravate certain mental illnesses and induce psychosis in those people. Its not a fact that a lot of people know but it's true.
This ! Absolutely. Even someone with severe anxiety or PTSD should be cautious with any psychoactive substance. If we are dealing with any psychotic disorders or disorders such as bipolar which include manic episodes someone needs to be EXTRA careful, I'd recommend that they stay away all together. I've watched people's symptoms reach severe levels after having a few tokes. I've seen people get admitted after a few tokes. Weed is fine when you're totally stable but it's dangerous when you suffer with any mental health disorders.
Stephanie, there was a gruesome murder took place in Türkiye on 4th of this month. Two 19 year old girls İkbal and Ayşenur were killed by a monsterous man, one of the girls' head was thrown down from the ramparts in İstanbul Edirnekapı in front of her mother. The media is banned from talking about it, one of the victims name wasn't even revealed until people online brought it up. We are so sick of hearing these murders so often, please help us raise our voice globally. We'd appreciate you talking about it.
@@m-fh1km oh mind your own business I beg, we need all the eyes we can get and our cries for her help did work, she said they're working on the case so again, mind your own business. Besides, I don't even see what's your point. I only made one single comment, who is spamming exactly? Chill bro.
i will say as someone with bipolar, the two most severe psychotic episodes i've had were triggered by weed and then by ssris. the manic episode from ssris was when i received my diagosis, and apparently it's pretty common for them to cause mania. THAT BEING SAID even at my most insane (literally) violence was never ever a risk, and in fact my illness put me in situations where i dealt with violence from other people because i was so vulnerable.
Yes, people who say weed can't cause psychosis don't know what they're talking about. There's a higher chance of that happening if you already have a mental illness and you're under 25.
Everyone is different, just because you didn’t have violent thoughts and reactions doesn’t mean everyone with bipolar doesn’t. Not excusing her actions but I’m so sick of people saying “Oh I have this but don’t do x, so people who have it can’t do x”. It’s like when people do oppression Olympics with mental health forgetting it affects people differently. Misconceptions like this is part of the problem but y’all won’t listen lol
It's why my mom's terrified of me doing any drugs. Her friend's brother got a weed brownie and it triggered dormant schizophrenia or something presenting similarly
I think the reason Keith is so forgiving of carly is because she's all he has left of Ashley. People deal with grief in weirds ways and sometimes you have to lie to yourself to survive.
I’m sorry she does not look innocent to me. She looks evil. I feel like she planned this out and attempted to plant things in her diary etc. in an attempt to plead insanity.
I don’t think her counsel was ineffective 🤷🏽♀️ they attempted to defend her but it’s difficult to defend someone who is on video and admitted to the crime
hey Stephanie, can you please also cover a case in Turkey in which a boy(19) decapitated two(19) girls and did unspeakable things to their bodies then later threw them from a building. he also harassed the girl for five years straight. this is a case that needs exposure and reach as wide as it can.
As someone who is from and lives in mississippi, I can say that this case really shocked the whole state! I hope this helps reform our mental health systems.
Something about the southern accent or cultural tone of calling a stranger “baby” makes it far more comforting than creepy/inappropriate like it would be in other parts of the country/world. Sweete/sweetheart, Hun(Hunny) are names I call strangers (usually younger people) while out in the wild.
@@melonthemelons This was my thought too. 'Baby' usually carries this tone that you're here for someone younger and are going to help them/protect them if possible. His first instinct was probably to want to protect this child who seems confused and just crawled out of a storm drain. But she was the killer.
I'm a Brazilian and although I have issues with certain parts of southern culture in the US (like conservatism and racism) Southern American English is the best English. And that's one of the reasons.
100% true for me, too. I'm a hon, person mostly, but I slip into sweetheart, baby, and others as the situation warrants. The more sadness or distress, the more reassuring. It's just in your blood, even though I'm only borderline southern.
Just listened to this podcast this morning at work. This girl is GUILTY!! She 100% knew what she was doing, especially texting her step father on her mom’s phone! Everyone excusing her because she’s young is sick
@@ChadOfAllChads Ah yes, Kyle who literally had people mobbing him, ran away, and was forced to defend himself when two people in the crowd tried to shoot him, which we have ON VIDEO. Your ignorance is astounding.
@@ChadOfAllChads I don't give a flying fuck what some lawyer said. Video evidence is enough, and it was clearly shown that two men deliberately brandished weapons and pointed them at Kyle with the intent to kill. One of the shooters that survived even said that he intended to kill Kyle, completely unashamed about the fact. Mob mentality is disgusting, and that was on clear display that day.
No one is excusing her, people are forgetting that kids hormones and brains aren’t developed and they can do stupid and heinous things. Murder is terrible but I don’t think you can compare a misguided 14 year old to a full grown adult like most convicted criminals. People don’t take mental health seriously when it comes to kids, then get surprised when they exhibit disturbing behaviors. It’s just unfortunate all around. Now 2 lives are over due to negligence
hi Stephanie, thank you for your hard work. There has been multiple cases of m*rder in Turkey lately, a very young child was m*rdered by her uncle and her body was lost for days, now yesterday multiple women were k*lled with a sword in the middle of street. the cases are ongoing and we wanna be heard. Can you perhaps cover a case for us, our voices arent heard by anyone and there has been a rapid increase in m*rders of women and children here.
The father has severe trauma. He clearly loves this child and can't come to terms the child he has raised as his own killed his wife and tried to kill him. I find those who are suspicious of him the creepy ones.
@@cantsay2205 as someone with daddy issues but can clearly see and understand that father is just traumatized and trying to cope : dont lump me in w them LMAOO , those ppl are just crazy and dont want to admit people are complex beings that struggle with emotions even with horrifying crimes
This is not in Carly's defense whatsoever, I truly believe she's guilty and should be charged to the fullest extent of the law, and I sincerely believe her weed usage had zero part to play in the murder of her mother. She's a disturbed and manipulative young girl who needs to be brought to justice. But when I heard "it's just weed" that kinda struck a chord with me, so I want to share my experience with it. Not many people are fully aware of this, but those with underlying psychosis can make things far worse with the use of THC products. My mother has bipolar, and she used to be a relatively stable person before she started smoking. Like yes, she still piled up clothes and would go from manic to depressive frequently, but she could still hold down a job, hold a conversation, and be a reasonably functional human being. When she started smoking weed, it was like a switch flipped in her brain. She is now addicted to weed, talks to herself, can't hold a conversation, shaves her head, her anxiety spikes to an alarming degree, she experiences paranoid delusions regarding the police, vaccines, technology, etc, she loses focus extremely quickly, leaves tasks unfinished then moves onto the next over and over, can't clean up after herself, can't drive safely, and hasn't had a job in 13 years. Yes, I have tried to get her help, but nothing I do works. Some mental health professionals will outright refuse to work with bipolar patients who use weed. It's like trying to fix an unfixable problem, and the only way they can make any progress is if they quit weed entirely. My old friend who has schizophrenia would experience heavier and more disturbing hallucinations when he smoked weed. This is all coming from a 25 year old former stoner, who had been a regular user since I was 14. Weed affected me far differently than it did my mother. If anything, it helped me focus better during my acting and language arts classes, to the point that I excelled in those subjects and scored higher on writing and reading tests than my peers. Given that I never raised a hand against my abusive parents, and my mother, even in the worst periods of her psychosis, never ever tried to hurt me physically, drives home further that Carly was not experiencing weed-induced psychosis when she killed her own mother. She clearly knew what she was doing, given the camera footage, her behavior before, during, and after the murder, and the audacity she displayed in showing her friend her own mother's corpse. She was lucid throughout the entire thing.
Thanks for this. I made a similar comment. Weed doesn't make people schizophrenic, but substance-induced psychosis is most definitely a thing. The younger you are when you begin using, the greater your brain is impacted. Again, not everyone is impacted the same way, and I am also not defending Carly, but I think it's important to remember the vast majority of netizens are not mental health professionals when they make these erroneous statements.
@@nichan008 Thats not what the research shows. People get strangely defensive and never want to admit weed isn't a 'harmless drug" that there is no such thing. It does seem to trigger/cause mental health problems like schizophrenia. It is also KNOW to stop brain development. Start smoking regularly at 14 and your mental age doesn't really progress. But hey don't let the every growing body of research on the harms of weed stop you.
@@LizThomas-dp7sr Reading comprehension is so low nowadays. I never said anything like that. I gave an additional hypothetical to remind that more than a single factor should always be considered.
@@nichan008 No you were being dismissive. You didn't just give an alternative you dismissed what someone said happened and then said something based on nothing. Personal experience and dozens of studies done disprove your 'hypothesis'. Adding mind altering drugs when you already have an issues with chemical imbalances in the brain is obviously going to make the situation worse.
At 15:08 I think it was Carly singing “no” not her mother because very faintly you can hear someone in the background most likely her mother saying “help me”.
If you go and watch the entire clip from the home camera and wear headphones, you can sadly hear the mom say "help me" before the daughter sang her creepy "no"@@ashleylamountain6352
So sick and tired of ppl playing "behavior analysts" when not only are they not trained in that, but the whole discipline itself is highly disputed by actual scientific scrutiny.
This case and the killer gives such uncanny valley feelings. Her age, looks, motivations, behaviours in trial... like those creepy dolls in horror movies.
The stepdad in my opinion I don't think he should have suspicion on him just because he's recalling fond memories. His wife is dead and he's likely trying to look back on those memories while still trying to cope.
Oh, I completely agree. He’s remembering his currently deceased wife who is violently murdered, and then in comparison to his only alive family member who is the daughter he’s not smiling about the fact that she murdered someone he’s looking upon those happy memories that he still has in that moment.
*WEED CAN DEFINITELY CAUSE PSYCHOSIS* I hate when people talk about an illness that they don't know much about and haven't experienced someone go through this or atleast ask people who have schizophrenia and family members who have it.. I've witnessed weed cause psychotic breaks, it lasts a month or even longer until they get hospitalized and then when they're better they think they can smoke because they aren't "sick" now and it happens all over again, I've seen 3 people go through this
I've heard this so many times that weed today is not the same as it was in the 70's. Weed has been tampered with to be stronger and God only knows what other chemicals that it contains. It is completely plausible that it causes psychotic breaks.
my younger brother struggled w anger management & abnormal mood regulation since he was a child, he seemed to have it under control until college when he became a heavy weed smoker, it ruined his life bc after months of consistent use his anger came back much worse & a very obvious mood disorder destroyed his ability to hold down a job longer than 3 months, lost all his friends, no lover, no ambitions or hope for a better life. He now admits he was addicted to weed & refuses to smoke at all now. His mood is now more regulated
went through this myself. it never got better until i quit using it. my diagnoses definitely factored into it so it won’t happen to everyone but you worded it perfectly. i hope you and your loved ones are safe/doing well
hi stephanie, ive been watching your content and keeping up with the podcasts for a while now, and i greatly appreciate how you help people's voices be heard. just today two women were brutally killed by a man in turkey who committed suicide shortly after. in turkey, women are killed and murdered due to being victims of the patriarchy almost every day. there was even a deepfake porn incident much like the much bigger one that went down in korea, albeit nothing was done about it here. we as women are in danger, are constantly followed home, stalked, raped, and murdered in turkey. i wish to see you spread the word and awareness if possible. we, as the women of turkey, want our voices to be heard.
there are many cases like this one if you look into it. whether that be a young girl murdered by her uncle, a housewife killed by her husband in front of their daughter, or a lady being killed by a random stranger on the street, being deemed an 'easy target'. it's terrifying to be a woman in turkey.
My thoughts: I think the people calling her manipulative are giving her too much credit, and the people calling her mentally ill are not giving her enough. This case lies somewhere in between. She is a child, yes; at 14, children typically understand consequences, yes. She knew what she was doing, and knew it was wrong, but did not weigh the gravity of the wrong. Which is why she ended up crying in the courtroom, I think, upon hearing the verdict. When you are a kid like that, shit does not really hit you until you are knee deep in it. Adults have the ability to see it from a few miles away, and kids do not see it at all. Teenagers lie somewhere in the middle. They see it, but they do not understand the intensity until it happens. Her strange behaviour I think was partially coaching from the attorneys, and her reacting to that environment. I grew up in a state where teenagers participated in what is known as "teen court", where kids are tried before jurors between the ages of 14 and 17. Being a juror on some of those cases while growing up was stressful, to me, as a juror. Imagine being the one on trial in an adult setting. I think she is not mentally ill (at least not in the way her defense was making her out to be- she very well could have another mental illness, but that does not cause someone to kill), and I do think she is guilty, I just think she did not realize how guilty SHE was until the verdict came. Whether she should have been tried as an adult is a whole other topic, one I have mixed feelings on.
This comment should have more likes. I obviously am just as curious to see court scenes as the next person but I genuinely did not see anything particularly weird in any of the court clips. She's acting pretty much exactly as you would expect from an insecure, awkward, angsty teenager who craves validation and experiences intense shock when she starts to realize the full extent of her actions. Even the fact that she thought she was smarter than everyone else and liked cartoon villains and whatever? You'd be surprised how many teenagers go through such a phase. It doesn't explain how she managed to become so violent all of a sudden, but then again, the court clips really are not the whole story. I mean, if the mother was alive to tell the story, would she have told us something much more telling? Or if we had waited for a few years for the stepdad to give a testimony, having fully recovered from the shock and all, would he have admitted something about the family dynamic we didn't get to hear now? Possibly. But trying to read too much from the facial expressions of a 14-year-old who was stupid enough to not accept the plea deal and got tangled into a pointless trial about her insanity as a result? Yeah that's dumb.
@@luskaneseprince I mean a plea deal that get's you 40 years at 14 feels like a life penalty anyways, one is a completely different person at 45 than at 14. Her life is over in anycase and she probably gets sa in prison.
@@leonfa259 I meant that last part as in she was stupid to not accept it because children don't fully understand the consequences and risks they are taking, and that this was yet another sign of her childishness and immaturity instead of a sign of her being extremely manipulative or completely cold-blooded or weirdly creepy or whatever else a lot of other people are trying to say. Now she indeed gets to spend her life in prison and learn a lesson about consequences... however, why you would bring up SA is beyond me. Not a single person deserves SA as a punishment, no matter who they are, but especially not an underage child. It tells me a lot about you for writing such a comment so callously. Only violent males immediately jump to SA fantasies when they have found an "acceptable " target.
I disagree, i think it was a psychotic break 100%, ive never killed but ive been there & done things i could never do now, it mostly ended up harming me but it also hurt my mom & my daughter & ill NEVER forgive myself & people acting like mental health is just an excuse are making the world a worse place in my opinion
Hi, Stephanie, I'd like you to cover this case from Spain. Several important business men raped girls aged 14-17 for years, but because the trial didn't happen until 10 years later the men won't go to prison and at least one has died because now they're in their 70, 80, 90s. It was a prostitution ring taking advantage of vulnerable and poor girls. Please, we need coverage of this case, justice must be made💜
I am a diagnosed type 1 bipolar along with 3 different types of personality disorder and I have struggled with addiction for 6 years and when my mom found out and confronted me about it it does make a stressful situation but the way she 'handled' it by just shooting her mom dead is so disgusting what the actual hell was she thinking?? to even try to make a defense of a certain disorder is just weird and disrespectful
Some psychologist said during the trial they think she doesn't even have bipolar disorder, either way her actions are not due to any mental illness, she is just evil. She had planned to do it for a while before it happened, she seems to be a monster, just wanting to kill people for the thrill of it and because they annoy her or whatever. I hope you are coping and get adequate help for your situation!
I have bipolar II and I have plenty of struggles with my family, I am just a year older then her. Her journal just gives me weird, stage vibes, and I mean, everyone is different but I don’t believe she could have killed her just out of mental illness?? My bipolar II has only made me want to hurt myself and run away, Id assume thats the same for others most of the time, also she seemed very planned with her actions and if anything it’s unnerving. I hope she gets better, if she is ill, but at the same time all my condolences go to the family.
honestly their pleas and defending that it's all the mental illness puts the people who are also struggling with some sort illness in the dark light and it's not okay. it's clearly not because she is ill, in my opinion i feel like it's to do with her biological dad like constantly letting her in a environment which is not okay for child to be in has something to do with him smoking on her face forcing her to drink she might have also felt like killing is really not that big of a deal her journals telling there is no hell and heaven everyone gotta die someday is strangely shocking for a 14 yr old to think abt maybe she really did'nt see killing or death as such big of a deal
Hello Stephanie, im one of your turkish followers and i wanted to inform you about the femicide cases that have been rising in turkiye for the past decade. Just yesterday two teenage girls, both 19, were killed by the same guy ,also 19, who was admitted to a psych ward but was let out and had drug problems. One of the girls were dismembered into three pieces in broad day light and the other was found with a cut throat. The girls İlkbal Uzuner and Ayşenur Halil, the killer Semih Çelik took his own life by jumping from a building and tied the dismembered parts of ilkbal to himself before jumping down. As women in this country we are terrified each time we go out and we are not even safe in broad day light. Many women have come out to say how nothing gets done even if they report it to the police. İt would really help if you could cover this case and shine some light globally about the femicide in Turkiye, thank you for your videos🫶🏼🙏
As someone who has been through something very traumatic and had to make a call like that, the step dad's crys are so real and raw it actually made me cry. And sitting in court he is clearly just completely numb from all the emotions he has been through. He obviously knows this is what is his wife would have wanted for someone to look after the daughter still, they were aware she had mental health problems. So so sad 😢 also why are people so shocked that a 14 year old with mental health problems is manipulative?
His life has been completely altered, of COURSE he is going to latch on to any remaining resemblance of normality. That’s just human nature. And to the people saying “I don’t know if I could forgive my kid” Exactly. You DONT KNOW you’re not in that situation so you can’t comment on what you would do. People seem to forget this is real life and not a reality tv show.
what's even more heartbreaking, that haunting sound of the mother dying isn't the mom. in the full clip, her mom faintly says 'help me'. the humming we heard is Carly singing 'noooo' to her mom's pleas.
Hi Stephanie, can your cover a case that happemed in Turkey? Two 19 year old women were decapated by a 19 year old boy and police did nothing even though he has been harassing one of these girls for 5 years. We, as Turkish women, feel unsafe and we need exposure to make this case global. Please make a video about this. Thank you
I watched the trial. The moment I saw the video of Carly Gregg moments before and after she shot her mother, I decided she should be in whatever facility choosen for the rest of her life. It was also impossible to ignore that at some point in that video, Ashley says “help me.” And the dogs hear it and so does she and she sings to “nooooooonoooo” to cover her mothers voice and according to investigators went and covered her mum’s face with a towel and crossed her hands on her chest and she didn’t ask about her mum once while getting arrested. Even IF mental health was an issue. She shouldn’t be allowed to walk free .
@@leonfa259if she had asked about her mom it would be evidence she was out of her mind at the moment and not fully conscious when she did it. But she never asked, she knew what she did and wasn't remorseful
After listening to this, I asked my dad if he would still love and support me if I did the same exact thing Carley did and he said “yes” with no hesitation. This makes me personally believe there is no way the stepdad could be anything but a victim.
Easy to say hard to actually do. Asking someone a question like that is pointless, its like asking would you stand up to a Nazi and risk your own life. Most people would say yes but the reality is that most people when push comes to shove won't. People weren't even willing to risk getting sick during covid and were turning on loved ones for masks ext.
@@LizThomas-dp7sr I can see where you’re coming from but you don’t know the specific aspects of my life. My dad is my favorite person in the world and I’m also his. He did elaborate after my question that he wouldn’t completely know if he’d forgive me but he would never doubt that he loves me.
@@LizThomas-dp7sr you could say the same argument for the opposite idea. Obviously asking someone is not the same as having the event play out in real life but I personally think people would have a harder time not standing by their loved one in this case. You'd be surprised how many people stand by abusers/murderers, even criminal ones, because they feel they need to or have developed an attachment they're not able to let go of. The way human brains work are quite fascinating, it's not about logic. Your brain will literally try to protect itself by convincing you things are not real, because the weight of believing them would destroy you emotionally
In Psych Nursing school I did a round in a State Hospital that had both an LPS and Forensic side. Honestly this sort of thing is kind of joke. People think that pleading insanity will get them off of a murder conviction. But they just don't go free, they get sent somewhere worse. If you don't have mental illness, you will be medicated as if you did. And you will be around people who truly have mental illnesses that might be resistant to treatment. It's more dangerous. IF your case comes up for review before the Attorney General, but if they feel like you lied about being mentally ill to escape a murder trial, they'll laugh in your face. I was literally in a meeting where a malingering client tried to tell the Attorney General that she was better and could go home (that she had found Jesus, as if he was hiding), and he laughed on the phone. He told her she'd rot in there.
Interesting! I wonder what the inmate death rates are in comparison to prisons. I can’t imagine being more safe near someone who is paranoid and hallucinating , vs a cell mate who mostly just want to also be left alone.
@@modkip25I think people feel it’ll help them escape the consequences. But you cannot get away with stuff. Even if the consequences don’t involve the law, you can’t escape the consequences of your actions.
The last breath of her mom is so chilling and heartbreaking. As a 14 year old you should know right from wrong whether you have bipolar disorder or any other kind of mental illness you have. Mental illness does not give you an excuse to kill people.
I absolutely agree, I'm 14 as well. I have a hard time with feeling empathy, but I understand and know when to apply it. She is absolutely evil to take her own moms life.
I was going to bring up her lack of empathy! It sounds like she has ASPD/Sociopathy. Just because of her lack of empathy for everyone but herself. Even if she does have this disorder, it doesn’t mean she doesn’t know right from wrong, and it still doesn’t justify killing someone. Also I do want to say this to clarify and let you know I’m not judging you, when I mentioned ASPD because of her lack of empathy. That doesn’t mean I’m saying since you lack empathy you have ASPD too, I don’t mean that at all. There are a lot of mental illnesses/disorders that can cause lack of empathy as well as other reasons. For example, I got into the wrong crowd and started hard drugs and while I was on it and while I was getting sober I had a hard time feeling empathy, but then after like 16 months of being sober it started to come back. That’s just my story though. Empathy is also taught through guardians while you’re growing, and you can learn empathy at any point too. It might take awhile and I’m not sure how effective it is, but it’s worth a try if you are looking to do so. Long story short I just don’t want to make you feel like I’m judging you for anything I have nothing to judge anyone for especially when I’ve been through the same thing just in different circumstances, and also that with me experiencing lack of empathy I know that if she does then it still doesn’t give her any excuse to kill someone. Anyways sorry this is so long I just don’t want to make you or anyone who might read what I say to heart😊
What true crime have these people been watching? Classic denial. The stepdad being like that is normal. You watch true crime often you see this all the time.
Hi Stephanie can you please cover a case that recently happened in Turkey? Two 19 year old girls were brutally murdered and decapitated by a 19 year old boy in Istanbul who's been harassing one of the girls for five years but the police never took any action. Turkish women are being killed and r*ped every single day while the government doesn't even care. We all feel unsafe and threatened, we can't go out without fear. This case needs to be made global, this needs to change. We don't want to live in fear, we have the right to live. Please consider making a video about this and be our hope. Thank you!
the footage that captured it inside their home was so disturbing , the dogs immediately became concerned for the mother i can’t imagine what type of monster thinks of doing this to their loved ones
The theories about the step dad are ridiculous. By his response at the scene of the crime and the 911 call, you can see why during the court case, he was quite literally disassociating. Maybe its because he has that obligation that her mom would not want her daughter to have a potential life sentence or if he is just delirious, but that guy is not okay after only 3-6 months
4:35 I cannot imagine being in court, being found guilty of over 30 charges, and having to listen over and over "sir is that your verdict? Yes. Mam is that your verdict? Yes."
Stephanie please cover turkish cases. Our nation is suffering from injustice and m*rder of woman and children. Yesterday Semih Çelik (19m) dismembered his ex Ikbal (19f) in a public area in day time in ONE HOUR and also k*lled his ex. In a video he recorded a year ago, he is listening to Pixies - Where is my mind while saying goodbye (a s*icide note) to ikbal telling her how much he tried to k*ll her and couldnt and now he will end his own life. In the song there’s a lyric that says “with your feet in the air and head on the ground.” After a year of this recording, yesterday he was on top of a tower. Dismembered ikbal and called her mom. When the mom arrived, he threw ikbal’s head off the tower to the ground to her mom. He remained seated on top of the tower with ikbal’s dismembered lower body. Everyone says he was on drugs but it was planned. Please cocer more turkish cases. There is more than 20 only on the tip of my tongue. I’m so tired of being Turkish.
I feel like the white dog is like "what did you DO" And the golden one is like "this is not happening" 🥺🥺 ugh the dynamic w dogs n humans is fucked up in this video 🥺
@@SebnOz There is a video of the stepdad being carried on a stretcher and he is asking the police officer to see to it that someone is taking care of the dogs. I think he will take good care of them or re-home them to a good home, he seems to be a generally caring person that poor man.
@@SebnOz no you're not weird, empathy comes in many forms. you can be concerned about the dogs, that's normal as long as you acknowledge the wrongful death of the mother too.
Also, I COMPLETELY, agree about the journal. That it was written by a child who read one book on psychosis. And also, most people with any mental disorders, DON'T SAY THAT THEY'RE CRAZY OR SCHIZOPHRENIC OR BIPOLAR. And YES; again, most people with psychological disorders, are usually suicidal.
A big incident happened in Turkey yesterday, a 19-year-old boy killed 2 19-year-old girls in the same day, and he killed one of them on the street and then committed suicide in front of everyone. The girls' names are Ikbal and Ayşenur, the boy's name is Semih. This boy is obsessed with Ikbal and follows her everywhere, she's not his girlfriend but they're classmate's, Ayşenur is this boy's girlfriend, this boy follows Ikbal and even makes plans to kill her, 1 year ago. He's making a video to ikbal saying he's gonna k*ll himself and she doesn't have to worry or scared anymore, This girl's family is suing the guy several times This boy draws pictures before killing girls, he works at a butcher shop, if you search you can find more please make a video about it, please.
Skipping grades is a sledgehammer to your social adaptation at school. I went through it 3 times and developed substance issues while aged 13 in Year 11, ending in almost a year in a psych ward. I think I can speak to this a little, and imo she's definitely got screws loose, but was totally aware of what she was doing. Thinking Mum found her vapes or something, and an argument spiralled out of control.
@@Geraldinealternizexoxo I was first moved from grade 1 to grade 2 midyear mainly because my reading level was way up, so it wasn't much of a change given grade 1&2 were a group lot (I didn't really understand, and was bribed with the offer of moving to a class with gym that day lol). When it happens some years later, generally the first thought is that you'll get school over a year quicker - which has a great deal of appeal at that age. One doesn't really understand the consequences until the new arrangement is well in effect. It's something raised between school and parents ofc - and can come down to going against parent's wishes, potentially. But yes, one can petition to have the usual grade progression, subject to any parental expectations or the like.
@@Geraldinealternizexoxo yvw 😁 the year levels can be very 'clannish', I suppose. One is put in with a group that have, until now, considered you an inferior, while former peers no longer feel they are.. Being caught between groups is a strain on developing social skills - I've heard that the issue is handled differently now than it was when I was at school - I hope it is, anyway..
Okay, but no one really explained why she did it. Even if she was upset that her mother found out she smokes weed, what she did is something only someone mentally unwell would do. If she’s just 'evil,' it still doesn't make sense for someone who's supposedly top of their class to think that way. There's something deeper going on here.
Her dad was abusive since she was a baby, her mom escaped with her in the night, she went through a mental break and doesn't even remember it. She needs treatment not jail
hey Stephanie can you please cover the recent case happening in turkey the murderer threw victims(two young girls in their 19s)body parts from the building and this literally happened in broad daylight in the busiest city so as turkish women we don't feel safe and protesting right now so it would be great if you cover this case for us
I agree but I also dont think the two are correlated. I smoked plenty in my teenage years and got caught for it several times… never made me want to kill my mom.
She only seems upset when she's given no option other than accountability for her actions. She doesn't seem to feel guilty for her mother's fate. So sad 😞
The mom’s last noises are so unsettling. It sounds like she’s crying and trying to breathe….i couldn’t imagine , as a mother of a girl. Knowing your daughter just shot you….she must’ve been so upset and scared. 😟
@@digimonalvatrax2738 that's actually carly singing. in the full clip her m faintly says 'help me' and the singing we hear is carly singing 'nooo' to helping her mom
Hi Stephanie, please be our voice. They put a media ban in Turkiye for this case. Two 19 year old women were killed by another 19 year old boy who unalived himself after. He threw the body parts of the victims across the streets. The details are very graphic. Please cover this case and be the voice of us.
Just to confirm the cop calling her “baby,” can confirm that southern people call kids and younger girls “baby.” It’s a soft and soothing endearment, they’re literally calling you a baby to soothe and calm. Nothing weird intended! Not only for kids either. Older women will call younger women baby when they’re taking a motherly position.
Glad someone pointed this out. Southerner here, and I knew right after hearing it this is how he meant it
Yep, came here just to make sure someone said it. If some older person doesn't call you "baby" when you go out, are you even in the south?
Exactly. I’m 24 and get called baby by older people, it is not weird and it’s a sweet calming thing to say.
Came here to say that! Her confusion over it was a bit confusing to me before I realized it’s a south thing 😅 I get called “baby” so much by older people I forgot it’s not an every where thing
The most south place I've lived is CO, but I still think it was pretty clear he meant it as a soothing endearment. His tone was VERY grandfatherly (even if the officer is too young to be that age, not sure). I hope that not too many people took it in a creepy way.
The stepfathers response is 100% a trauma response. He lost the love of his life and he trying not to lose the other part of his life that he cares so much about. His world has changed irreversibly in the worst way anyone’s life could change
Back in training for an old job, one of my coworkers lost her dad. 3 hours away. She couldn't leave and be by his side and basically HAD to finish the training otherwise she would've never been able to get the job, I remember her reacting the same way. She even "passed out" at some point and just laid there tears falling out, breathing, conscious but unresponsive with a blank stare. Even her hands went cold. Its insane how fragile we are man, it shines clearly when we lose someone we never imagined living life without...
@@moe3691 wtf kinda job was that???
I resoond the same way to trauma. I have cptsd so I basically just go numb.
@@dezsii91I feel that, I just go blank, no high or low emotions
Exactly! He is not smiling when talking about his wife because she is gone. He is in grief! He is smiling when talking about Carly because she is still here. It's easier to talk about her.
i can’t imagine how her friend that told her mother that she was smoking weed feels, survivors guilt must be crazy:( this story is so heartbreaking
What a snitch.
@@BadBunniez they may be a snitch but they do that for the sake of carly tho? Weed is bad thing yk and they're just trying to help her
@@BadBunniezgod forbid someone be worried about their 15 year old friend smoking weed
@@permanentlytired4304 when you see it’s having a bad effect on your friend mentally i would hope you try and help them. For a 15 year old it is logical to go to their parents. I wish my friends would help me if im spiraling even by “snitching” on me
@@BadBunniez found the drug defender
Hi Stephanie, can your cover a case that happemed in Turkey? Two 19 year old women were murdered and decapitated by a 19 year old man and police did nothing even though he has been harassing one of these girls for 5 years. We, as Turkish women, feel unsafe and we need exposure to make this case global. Please make a video about this. Thank you
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That sound from her dying mother is so haunting. I wasn't expecting that.
And sad too 😕
this, I did not know dying people can sound like that
If you look at Carly’s mouth, it may be her making those noises…..
She's singing to hide the noises from her mother calling for help
it's the mom crying.
27:56 I think people forget that it’s not uncommon for when a child kills one of their parents and/or siblings the remaining parent often sides with them because that’s all they have left. He’s also still in shock and clearly believes that Carly didn’t do this on purpose.
I came here to say the same thing. Also whilst I can understand why people think it’s sus that he’s so attached to her after just five years, if he doesn’t have kids (I didn’t hear them mention whether he does or not), then it’s understandable that he would become attached to his step children, especially if he’d always wanted a family.
@@CarysCreatesThings and they were around each other during Covid it seems. Which would create even more of a bond. The thought that a step parent can’t have a close bond with a child is crazy to me.
I don't think he can wrap his head around the fact that she did this in purpose and while sane. It's easier to believe that she was insane.
people who don't have step parents or step children don't have the understanding that after a certain point, the step part doesn't really apply. it's there because it's what fits legally if that makes sense. i always considered my step father my father and even if i called him by his real name, he's my dad through and through. especially when she was so young, it's so easy to attach. i know this crime is horrible but i really do not feel comfortable with people implying theres some underlying weirdness without proof. he's just broken. you can tell in his reaction on the footage.
@@clover1113 exactly my point. You can tell he’s utterly destroyed but doesn’t want to believe a child he helped raise could do something like this. The implication that there’s something weird going on infuriates me
Her poor friends. They seem like good people who came rushing to her aid, trying to keep her from doing drugs, and now they have to live with everything that happened. The murder is obviously the most tragic, but there are so many more victims on the side lines in cases like this. It’s just so awful.
I do think the friends and mother probably overreacted about the weed, its more of a medicine than a drug & she clearly needed it at the time, the other stuff is more worrying.
@@roundsdm If she has bipolar, weed can actually be really bad for her. It can affect people with bipolar much more severely and even cause psychosis or trigger psychotic/paranoid episodes. She probably most definitely didn't need it, even if she felt like she did.
@@hollisticc not to mention she was using vape pens those are not regulated really
Pot itself isn’t that serious, but it’s important to note that she’s 14 years old with possible Bipolar Disorder. In situations when someone is so young with mental health issues, weed can become dangerous.
@@roundsdm people who are bipolar usually go into psychosis bcs of weed
She deliberately wrote those journal entries to make herself look like she’s clinically insane. Ultimate gaslight 💀😭💀😂
Not funny
@@Smelior Nothing there was meant as a joke??
@@kenginq UMM- Im pretty sure them saying Ultimate gaslight 💀😭💀😂 was funny and a joke to them
@@Smelior ok 💀
@@kenginq 😬
The way the dogs reacted in the video along with the mother's screams is absolutely heart shattering.
They are confused and scared😢😢 They trust her but at the same time scared of what is happening
That's what broke me. I was moderately okay up until then, but my dog literally checks on me if I drop something in the shower, or wakes me up if I make a weird noise in my sleep. Dogs are EXTREMELY aware of what is going on with their humans. You could tell they knew something was wrong, but they couldn't do anything to help.
@@lunalovegood9740their sense of smell is also very strong. They could probably tell something was wrong through the heavy smell of blood from far. Poor doggos😢
they knew right away something was wrong. dogs can pick up on body language so well. I hope they were able to stay with the step dad.
100 agree 😱💔💔💔
That man is not emotionless, this is a man disassociating clearly not over what happened, i mean how could anyone get over something like that in such a short amount of time. i feel so bad for the mother all she tried to do is being a good parent, to care enough about her daughter to take away her phone, i feel bad for the husband too not only has he seen his wife dead but he also saw his kid holding a gun of course he'd lunge and try to take it away from her. Idk why theres even a discourse about him smiling at the kid, he JUST lost his wife the only thing he has left from her is her daughter, he probably blames himself thinking he failed both his wife and his daughter
i agree. the theories people are making about him are so upsetting. people have no decency 🤦🏽♀️
*dissociating
disassociation is not the same thing
@@poetsheart Especially for how fast this case went to trial. Usually the victim has years to come to terms with everything, get through therapy, grieving, etc. He had 6 months!
@@poetshearti agree 💯 step dad was the victim aswell its upsetting bad comments about him
yeah, if you raise somebody, are proud of how smart and accomplished you are, and they try to kill you, can you just switch to ‘they’re a monster” without serious and intense years of therapy? im listening to this case and i still can’t fully accept her age, i keep thinking about her as older because everything she does is so calculated and teens tend to be driven by impulsive and emotions.
“Are you squeamish around dead bodies” is such a ridiculous question to me. Yes I think everybody with a normal mind is squeamish around dead bodies.
@@MadMan_123there’s a difference between it being job being around gory scenes such as this and not. It should not be normalized to be okay around dead bodies.
tbh there’s a lot of things that can play into this, like desensitization, especially now in this generation all these “edge” lord kids are into gore videos and all kinda gross stuff.
@@MadMan_123 *First Responder Mantras*
@MadMan_123 Oh wow what a big man with his big man peepnis and big man balls.
And then who has that much experience around dead bodies to even know if they're squeamish or not. Like, I get it funerals. But, how many funerals have school kids been to?
I'm a nurse in a german psychiatric clinic and most of the teenager with a psychotic episode got it from smoking weed. The danger for people with a predisposition is totally underestimated...
This should be taught in school.
I live in the Netherlands and only heard about this a few years ago
That’s definitely not my experience in a mental facility. People know smoking bad, but saying it turns everyone psychotic is nonsense
@@Jay-nj1rq I never said i does. Pls read again.
I think in many cases it can help people.
But I'm now working for eight years in the child and adolescent psychiatry and that is totally my experience
I wanted to comment the same. I'm also German with mental health disorders and my psychiatrist told me to stay away from weed at all cost. it can genuinely be dangerous to those that are already vulnerable to psychotic episodes.
Thank you, i also commented about this. I have BPD and had a psychotic attack from weed.
the noise the mother made... thats so heartbreaking. i feel so bad for her
edit: i understand that wasnt the mom specifically making that noise but the rest of my comment still stands like my heart feels for her loss of life so i wont delete the support for her ❤
I don’t think that’s been confirmed as being her mother making that noise.
watched others line Law&Crime comment on this case, and I recall them saying it could be Carly singing to the dogs to calm them down.
That hurt my stomach 😢
@@itdontmattah creepy if it was her singing to the dogs but the way she seems to react to the noise makes me believe it was her mother. i hope you are right and that that wasnt a cry in pain
@@pickachuwu I honestly don't think that was Carly singing, but mom's last breath and sounds.
I think if you watch the full clip, you can here something like "help me" and then the singing starts. As if she's trying to drown out the moms pleas.
"adult decisions will have adult consequences" that hits hard man
I sure wonder what the adults in her life did to her for her to react that way, its really sad
@@NoahachiI don’t think it’s fair to assume the adults in her life are a reason for why she turned out the way she did in this situation. Everyone can be a killer, all it takes is for someone or something to push you over an edge. She does seem to have mental issues. That could be a huge factor. weed can also cause early psychosis. Knowing the mom’s background, I assume that Carly knew how her mom would react. That could possibly be Carlys someone and something that pushed her. We don’t know if Carly was abused/neglected or not but given the fact that the friends were comfortable enough to tell the mom about this situation, I don’t think the mother was murdered for any good reason.
@@RiverLotus well of course they are responsible of how she turned out this way, she is an unsupervised teen with an on going addiction who ended up killing her mother, if thats not neglect i dont know whatvthat is
@@Noahachido you realise that kids will always find a way to get what they want if they desperately want to get it ? There are many ways to procure Dr*gs if you want them. So no , by no means is it neglect . Please think before spouting bs.
@@barbaragenshin9848 girl if your child is using drugs thats your fault 😭
10:10 as one of your southern viewers, I can confirm the "baby" is a southern thing. Our way of speaking can seem weird since we're all about respect and even have similar layers of formality to Korean. (Not the same exact because Korean has many more layers I've found while learning it) Him using "baby" is used by adults towards children, mainly towards younger women however may be used for boys around elementary age. Words used in similar context are "sweetie" and "honey." I would also like to note that even though the officer spoke kind of fast, his tone was more nurturing/comforting. Once again a tone used mostly by adults towards younger children. This could very much just be because she was speaking with a much softer voice that sounded a lot younger than she is.
I was coming to the comments to say the same thing lol. You worded it perfectly!
Yess i was abt to make this comment 🙌🙌
Was coming here to say the same! It actually never occurred to me that ppl might think a cop (anyone) referring to a stranger as "baby" was strange. I waited tables, worked retail thru my 20s, & I always referred to customers by saying "hun" "babe" "sweetie".
Edit: And I didn't read your full comment until after I posted mine so I didn't see the examples of "sweetie" or "honey" 😂
This is very common when adults are interacting with a young child... Boys definitely do lose their "young child" treatment younger than girls/women do... the elderly receive that treatment, too
Mississippian here! I was coming to make the same comment! I work in a nursing home and catch myself referring to our residents as mama, granny, and papa all of the time!
Today, in Turkey/ Istanbul, a man named Semih Çelik murdered two 19 year old girls, İkbal Uzuner and Ayşenur Halil. He slit Ayşenur's throat and dismembered İkbal Uzuner on top of the city walls. He threw her various body parts to the street, including her severed head. Can you please make a video about it where you investigate the case?
YES I CAME HERE TO SAY THE EXACT SAME THING
Please also make case suggestion on her website too
Okay and not the time and place to ask
@AutumnSwift2 many people will still say because it's important to know what's happening.
@@AutumnSwift2 that is actually very insensitive lmao u american by any chance?
I have a friend who was near-fatally stabbed by her son during a psychotic episode.
She talks with him on the phone multiple times every day, and keeps her guest room set up for when he gets released.
There truly is no love like that of a parent. Though Heath is only her stepfather, stranger things have happened than forgiveness.
Humans are so beautiful and strange. We can be so heartless, it’s scary, or so full of love and kindness that it’s scary.
My half siblings on my dad's side while they've (to my knowledge) never tried to kill him, they have caused him to go to jail twice, once for snitching that he was at the time selling pills (they were his pain pills and while bad yes, he was doing it to pay for bills so we wouldn't get evicted) because they were pissed at him for not giving them money (that he clearly didn't have anyway). The second time they lied to his parole officer saying he was planning to leave the state because again they were pissed at him and I had to see my dad through a glass window on Christmas which was great. They were also so verbally abusive towards him, I've heard them curse his name since I was a child as they were all adults by the time I was around, and yet every single time he forgave them.
Then when he died they focused that energy on my mom and me mostly, and tortured us for about a year before they eventually left the state, and truly I have no idea how that man forgave them as many times as he did because I don't have a single bone in my body that wants to forgive them.
That's not love. That's stupidity.
She is not psychotic. She is just a Tumblr girl. The things she wrote are prevalent in Tumblr and fanfiction sites. And in those discord channels. These kids are in echo chambers every time they are online. Think of the Columbine fangirls, that kind of crowd.
@@jinndiaz3752 he had a psychotic episode, meaning he was not in the right state of mind when doing the stabbing. He probably regretted it when he snapped out of it. Psychotic episodes are terrifying and are a sign of an underlying condition.
The most disturbing part to me was the way she casually picked the phone up and texted her stepfather as her now deceased mother. The way he knew it was unusual but didn't particularly suspect anything because, why would he?
Honestly, worse than that is that she does it while her mom is *dying*, not even dead. You can hear her say “help me” while Carly sings “noOoOoOoOOo” and texts her stepdad. It’s so disturbing.
@@johanabiShe’s not singing, that’s her mom’s last sound. Her mom was shot 3x in the face, she can’t say “help me”.
I’m pretty sure getting a lawyer is a smart thing to do
she nuts
@@johanabiwhat that was her mom's dying last breath she never sang no? Where did u get that from jw
I don't get how people think the stepdad was involved! The guy is clearly traumatized, and maybe he thinks supporting Carly is what his wife would've wanted!
Exactly! And it’s not uncommon for a parent or stepparent to side with the child after they do something like this. He’s clearly traumatized and thinks Carly didn’t do this intentionally
@@lafayette8240 yeah, i imagine if the mother was lightly injured and the stepdad was killed no one would question if she supported her. Also, given her bad relationship with her dad and the fact that they were basically locked in a house together for over a year its not that surprising that they bonded
@@immyg_563 exactly
I disagree but every stepfather I’ve ever known has been WEIRD. This guy seems VERY WEIRD to me and trust me when I say, I would know.
Youre a joke. Lol. Making broad generalizations like that make you look so stupid. Did your mother jump around with you while she was pregnant? Fucking retard lol@@getraptureready777
Hello Stephanie can you please cover a case that recently happend in Turkey? two girls (19) were brutally murdered and decapited by a 19 year old boy in istanbul who has been harassing one of the girls for 5 years but the police did nothing. turkish women are being killed everyday and our government doesn't care about us we feel very unsafe and we need all the exposure we need to make this case global and make a change. PLEASE consider making a video about this. thank you!
YES I AGREE PLEASE HEAR OUR VOICE
Replying to this comment to try and push it to the top! This and many other Turkish cases should be covered 😢🫶🏻 praying for u all
@@AmeliaHopePiche thank you!
yes omg I just stumbled upon this case today and Im honestly sick to my stomach....
🆙
she went to my school and her mom taught at my school, i’ve seen her and mrs smiley around in the halls i would’ve never expected something to tragic to happen. Mrs Smiley was so loved by all of her students. They made a memorial on her class room door. although i didn’t know her personally it broke my heart knowing that something like this could happen to such a sweet lady.
Yeah same here. I a lot of my friends were taught by her and they all had nice things to say. It’s so heartbreaking what happened. I hope they still have the letters on her door
Wow. Thanks for sharing.
My guess is she likely became schizophrenic from smoking weed at too young of an age. Some people are just genetically predisposed to it…
She brought her own worst Enemy and Nightmare into this World
@@BVonBuescherexcuses create more abuses
@@Cookiesandcreamssnow everyone is gonna jump on this bandwagon lol. Yeah she thought my friend's friend also. And my cousin 🙃
Sorry for commenting again, LOL, but "she was JUST smoking weed, it's not a big deal" isn't a very informed response when we're talking about a teenager with a schizophrenic parent (if he does indeed have it). I have several family members with schizophrenia, and I am diagnosed with schizotypal and was told by my psychiatrist to not do any type of drugs, not even weed, because it can worsen my symptoms and trigger schizophrenia. My brother's schizophrenia was also triggered by smoking weed. So yeah, it's not harmless if you have a genetic predisposition. I wish more people were aware of the risk.
Yes, i have a friend with strong schizophrenia in her family and she refuses to ever try weed because it triggered her brother to develop it and he spent months in psychosis. It absolutely happens.
Yeah, unfortunate part of the video there
Yes! She's only 14 so there's lots of time for the brain to keep developing and has dramatically increased her chances of actually developing a psychotic disorder. The earlier you start, the greater the odds. It's just one of those things folks generally don't think about because there are worse things out there but hearing the psychiatrist say there's no association when mine recommends I stop for this exact reason. Then again, I'm an adult who previously had a prescription for the devil's lettuce, not just some teen who is doing it for funzies.
Girl's going to get a rude awakening if she finds herself developing schizophrenia for real while in prison and she gets carted to the prison psych ward. There's a popular TH-camr who went to jail and shares many of her experiences and I had a feeling that if this girl was actually as clever as people think she is she wouldn't have been in this situation in the first place and she'd still be out smoking with her buds and ugly cried because she's sorry she got caught and now she's serving life.
I hate how normalize weed is nowadays, yeah there's people who can live a normal life smocking weed, but to people with anxiety, depression or toc can alter the chemistry on their brains, and the kids now don't get it because the media portrait weed like natural and edgy.
Omg, thanks for this information. Ill have to look more into this, I have never been into drugs and I don’t think I would ever but this is good to know as someone who has schizophrenia in their family. I have always been scared that it will get triggered one of these days because I’m already very anxious and stressed.
the moaning/singing isnt the mother, if you listen before you can hear the mom say "help me" and the singing is actually carly singing "noooo" to helping her mom. she is truly evil.
Oh my god
I was wondering about that because she got up and went back there after she put the phone down I thought it was odd. The news said she just broke into a song but I thought I heard someone in pain moaning then she sang. But they did not mention that it was her mom making noise. So this confirms what I thought I heard. Thanks.
I had to go back 14:58 it doesn't seem
What was the motive?
I bear "I love you" and then idk what I hear after that it sounds like humming a scale. And if you zoom in on the video her face looks like her lips are moving when this noise happens. Very creepy
That last breath from the mom was haunting and distressing as hell, agonal breathing is terrifying. Everything about this is just so sad and horrible. I really did not expect to be shown the audio of that, my heart hurts
Please please please cover the GISB case in Malaysia. 400 children sexually abused, over 100 religious teachers arrested. Religious institutions have a certain kind of protected status in our country, and this case will never fully be covered the way it should be by local media.
Im a Malaysian I didn’t even knew about this, didn’t saw it came across in FB posts whatsoever in the media for a crime as big as this 😨😨
@@dalhoot6438 not sure how's ur social media algorithm. It is a really big case in Malaysia.
Stephanie this sounds like it needs to be covered
I'm never going to understand how it is that churches of all denominations all around the world allow their workers to get away with these kinds of evilness😢😡😢
Add this on her website chances of seeing her this post is high there
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As somebody from the south that “I don’t know baby” is 100% a southern thing. It’s just how we talk to each other especially when it comes to younger people, it’s a part of southern hospitality and how community is valued down here.
Confirming this. It's especially common with adults (of either gender) to refer to young girls by that. In the south (and likely some other areas), it indicates affection and protectiveness but doesn't carry any romantic or infantilizing connotations.
Yea southern people have nicknames we call for literally anyone and even strangers. Baby, sweetie, sweetheart, honey, darling…
It’s just something we do, part of our culture and it’s in a endearing thing for us. And I love it.
Yes. When the kids walk by every day and say Hey! To me. I say hey baby. How r u to each one.
I'm from the south too. 😂
I think it is fake as hell
I’ve been living in South Carolina for over 20 years and this is def a southern thing
People suspecting the stepfather of being “weird” for loving his stepdaughter shows how fucked this world is.
honestly :/ like how dare this poor man who's in a horrible situation have complex emotions towards his stepdaughter
It's jsut the freaks who think that 🙁
the guy got shot and he's being accused of planning it all and committing SA, it's insane but in line with today's gender sentencing disparity and the state of family court and CPS, huge societal bias
Unfortunately I think it's due to popular incest/ kink/media...or Unfortunately real cases with incest or something similar
Just another day of fatherhood/male feelings erasure.
Oof, this hits hard. My family actually had a VERY similar case like this happen. In February of 2023, my uncle's stepdaughter shot him in the face and then attempted to shoot her mom. My uncle raised that girl from the time she was super small because her own father was absent, and he treated her like she was his own. The shooting just came out of nowhere, and it was premeditated. My uncle was a gun owner, and he was very strict about gun safety and kept the gun locked securely in a safe at home. His stepdaughter was sneaky and would watch every time he put the gun in the safe, and she memorized the code to the safe. Well, one day, my uncle was in bed taking a nap, and his wife was in the shower. His stepdaughter got the gun out of the safe and went to the bedroom, and she attempted to shoot him while he was sleeping. She missed, though, and the bullet his the headboard, which woke him up. He immediately got out of bed, and she slammed the bedroom door and moved further down the hall. When he opened the bedroom door, she shot him in the face with his own 9mm hollow point. Her mom heard the shot, and she got out of the shower and ran out to see what happened. That's when the girl aimed the gun at her mom's face, but we think she accidentally hit the safety because the gun didn't fire. When she turned the gun over to see why it jammed, she hit the clip release, and it fell out of the gun. It spooked her, so she dropped the gun and ran. When she shot my uncle, the bullet went in through his cheek and into the roof of his mouth, which completely destroyed his hard palate and damaged his soft palate. It also shattered his jaw and his nose, fractured his cheekbone and orbital socket, and burst all the blood vessels in his eyes.
My uncle was transferred to a teaching hospital in Iowa City, where he was kept sedated for multiple days, but he miraculously survived. He saved his own life, too. After he was shot, he went back into his bedroom and shut the door. He took off his pajama pants, rolled them up, and stuffed them in his mouth. He then got himself dressed, and his wife made him sit down on the stairs to wait for the ambulance.
My stepcousin was charged with two counts of attempted murder, and the Iowa district attorney wanted to charge her as an adult. I'm just realizing I never said my stepcousin's age, she was THIRTEEN. My aunt and uncle didn't want her charged as an adult, so instead of putting her in a juvenile facility, the district just dropped the charges altogether and let that girl off scott-free without even a slap on the wrist. My aunt and uncle obviously don't feel safe with her in the home, so she was placed in a foster home where there are actually other kids present. The foster mother seems to think my stepcousin is a complete angel and God's gift to this world, and told my aunt and uncle that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the girl. I'm sorry, but normal teenagers don't attempt to murder their parents. I was a severely mentally ill teenager and I never once thought about murdering my parents. Well, the foster mom is now trying to demand my aunt and uncle pay child support for the girl, so they're dealing with a bunch of court cases. Unfortunately there isn't much information about the case online, since my aunt and uncle didn't feel like talking to the press, and the courts decided not to release my stepcousin's name or much details about the case due to her age.
This case happened in Waterloo, Iowa, on 911 Leavitt Street. I can leave a link to one of the few news stories below if anybody is interested, but it's not very much information. There is minimal damage to the outside of my uncle's face, just a small scar where the bullet entered. However, the roof of his mouth is completely gone. They tried to do skin grafts, but his body kept rejecting them and they died, and now there's too much scar tissue, so his diet is now severely limited. The bullet is also still lodged in his jaw, they can't remove it without risking severe and permanent nerve damage.
www.kcrg.com/video/2023/02/16/teen-charged-waterloo-shooting/
That’s so crazy I really wonder why. I’ve had thoughts of killing my parents but it’s only because of the abuse I went through. I never acted on it. To act on it has to be some sort of mental thing. It’s like the brain isn’t releasing that guilt feeling for killers.
Sad story but honestly your aunt and uncle did anyone a favor by dropping all charges so she can potentially try to harm someone else . That’s pretty scary .
Callling someone “baby”, “sweetie “, and “hun” is very common in the southern United States. It’s not meant to mean anything.
Especially since it's a child too? I feel like most people would instinctively go with a nickname when interacting with a kid they don't know, especially if they have children of their own.
@@v_doll yes, children especially. They are children. We’ve taken all the humanity and love out of the world because we only listen to bad news. But if I see a child fall off their bike and get hurt, I will most likely call them sweetie when addressing them. They are hurt. They want attention and caring. I’m also much older and experienced in dealing with these life experiences.
Same thing here in the Caribbean
Same for the Midwest in my opinion.
It's like when my Filipina coworker calls mama/mami. It's just a term of endearment and not meant to be offensive.
Umm.... a 14 year old knows that murder is wrong... yes, she's a kid, but she's not a baby. We need to stop infantalizing....
Yeah, 7 old knows not to kick or hit their classmates, so 14 years know not to kill
Yes@@sillyguy951
@@sillyguy951 Absolutely
@@I_isBored didn’t ask you, wouldn’t ask you in the first place since you stated you watch true crime “for fun,” get well soon bud 🙏
@@sillyguy951hope you seek help for wanting a murder free
I don't think Heath's (the dad) done anything wrong, personally. I think he's just traumatized and in denial, as many families would be in this situation. We see behavior like this from biological parents all the time (where they support their child no matter what crime they commit, up to and including murdering other family members they also loved) and no one thinks there's something fishy goin on. I think it's really sad that he's so in denial, but it's not our place as outsiders to tell someone else how to grieve/how fast their process needs to go. And it's gross the internet wants to make that out to be something questionable.
I mean protecting your child at all costs is ones main mission as a parent, even if that child has hurt others or even yourself.
Legit, I'm listening to Stephanie list all the reasons for people to suspect the stepdad and all I can think of is "wow, he really loves his family". Any good parent would only talk about the good in their children, even exaggerating. Just because people aren't biologically related, doesn't mean they can't be a close family
Hi Stephanie, in Turkey/ Istanbul, a man named Semih Çelik murdered two 19 year old girls, İkbal Uzuner and Ayşenur Halil. He slit Ayşenur's throat and dismembered İkbal Uzuner on top of the city walls. He threw her various body parts to the street, including her severed head. Can you please make a video about it where you investigate the case?
She thought she's so superior she would get away with it. No matter how obvious the crime. Cause everyone always told her she's so special.
Honestly it sounds exactly this.
I think what he mouthed was “it’s going to be ok……ok” I think he was trying to reassure her because he probably can’t mentally handle losing his child in addition to his wife. I can’t imagine losing my entire family in one day like that. Poor man. Poor lady.
I don’t think I’d like to live with a criminal who is a member of my family who killed another family member that I love Just to not be alone!! I’ve never been in such a situation, but this justification u guys r making for the stepfather is just weird!
@@nashly507”I’ve never been in such a situation” so why are you judging this stranger? You can’t even begin to fathom what he’s going through
@@_stargirl sis ur right I’ll never fathom it until I try it which I hope will never happen to me or u or anyone .. but u really think u need to go through this experience to know how u’d feel towards a criminal? If this happened to u and one of your family members killed another family member-your mother, your sister, are u not sure if u would empathize with them or not? Would it be okay with u if u’re the victim and ur family forgave and defended ur sister who killed you without reason just because they don't want to lose another daughter?! Like pls, we’re talking about a criminal murderer who thought they had the right to end someone's life for personal reasons!! am I exaggerating here or is it perhaps because we’re so used to hearing about murder crimes nowadays that it has become not the atrocity it should be? Idk
@@nashly507you’ve never been in that situation, everyone reacts to trauma differently
@@nashly507 You're making no sense. It's best if you stopped talking.
Thank you for putting out the disclaimer about people being diagnosed with bipolar not always being violent. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder almost a year ago and i’ve been incredibly hesitant about telling anyone in my life for fear that they’ll think i’ll rage out at them or something.
As a 26 year old living with bipolar 2, I was diagnosed over 10 years ago. I understand the hesitance to disclose this part of yourself, but my best advice is to just tell them. You are more than your diagnosis, you’re the same person who you’ve always been. If they stop fucking with you, they weren’t meant to be in your life. Much love 🫶🏽🫶🏽
@@onlinegf9590 As a 27 y/o with Bipolar II who was diagnosed a few years ago, I totally agree. People have to accommodate you, and they have to learn what bipolar is. How will they know, if everyone's hiding? So many people just don't know what it's life to be held together with zip ties. Time to burst their bubble 💙
It is pretty negatively stigmatized. I can get why you wouldn’t want to tell people. But I hope that if you do, the people in your life will feel same about you, and treat you the same as before finding out
It’s better to keep it to yourself unless you know you can explain your diagnosis and triggers to them and encourage them to do there own research to help understand what’s going on with you otherwise most people will use it as a weapon against you
the bit about the diary sounds so obviously like a teenager mimicking what they think a “crazy” person might do
I dont really see anyone else mentioning this, and its not earth-shattering, but she wrote in her journal something like "innocence is life greatest illusion" and her stepdad mentioned theyd play video games together. In skyrim, to enter one of the assassin guild hideouts, the door asks you "what is lifes greatest illusion" and the passphrase is "innocence, my brother." This just sort of stuck out to me as something small, yet telling, that slipped under the radar. It was so subtle. If you dont know, you really dont know. The speed of the trial also shocked me. I wish all the peace and comfort in the world to the victims loved ones
omg
Never thought I’d see someone from my school end up on one of these. I didn’t know either of them personally but I have friends who did, it’s crazy to think I was walking the same halls as her.
Seriously! I don’t think I’ve ever personally met either of them before but I knew people who either knew of them or who took Mrs. smiley’s class
wait i live in MS too
my friend's ex boyfriend that we went to high school with murdered his next girlfriend after my friend broke up with him. he was abusive and threatened my friend when we were in school followed her with a knife to her car threatened her and chased her down the road. Thank god she told the school that made him leave her alone. he killed his next girlfriend though and she went to school with us. When they were dating i hated him even before he started harassing her because he would say evil things racist jokes jokes about hurting animals and making fun of nine eleven victims. I knew he was psycho even before he did that stuff.
I literally just watched footage of the murder. You can literally see her hide the gun behind her back and slowly walk toward her mother in another room and all you hear is three gunshots and the mothers scream. Then she walks back into view and texts somebody. It's really disturbing, even when you don't see anything.
Oh my God I can’t believe I saw the footage of it I thought it was a different case wow
Watched the whole trial on Recovery Addict's channel. This kid was so calm and dead eyed when they talked about her mother. She only cried when she was faced with the cost of her actions.
Nothing about how she hurt her own mother or pew-pewed her step-dad who was mouthing "I love you" to her at the end of the trial.
I saw the footage of it yesterday and it was just awful my heart sank
She was texting her stepdad on her mom's phone pretending to be her mom after she murdered her.. She wanted to know when he was going to be back home because she wanted to murder him too.
She had told her friends a while ago that she wanted to murder her mom and stepdad, they didn't think that she was actually going to do it.
I'm still in utter shock!!
The way she hid that gun is like when a kid is trying to smuggle a toy when they're supposed to be studying. Disturbing.
People really need to stop calling it creepy for a man to express love towards a kid. If youre sexualizing that its your Own internal association. If he was a woman I highly doubt people would call his display of affection so creepy.
Americans are literally in a moral panic about that. I'm not even a native and NEVER it would pass through my mind to interpret that line negatively as it was. That's weird.
I'm a Brazilian and although I have issues with certain parts of southern culture in the US (like conservatism and racism) Southern American English is the best English. And that's one of the reasons.
Could you guys stop staying “if he was a woman it would be different” if he was a woman, people would have criticized her for “coddling” her
@@lovingyou9921 i feel like getting criticized for coddling a child is extremely different from getting accused of being creepy around a child
@@lovingyou9921 yeah, for “coddling” her…Not for being creepy (which is the overall narrative of interpretation here). If he were a woman, the topic of creepiness wouldn’t be brought up. Like you said, it’d be a matter of “coddling” right? So why aren’t people criticising him for coddling her? Why would a woman calling her “baby” be seen as coddling and not being creepy in the same scenario? That’s the issue being raised here. If it were a woman people would interpret her behaviour as motherly. For men it’s not seen equally as fatherly but creepy instead
I find her more creepy than him, he is just sad , trying to keep his little family together, it feels like a family was his dream and can’t accept what happened.
And the fact that theres people out there calling her “poor girl”,”but shes just a child” its just disgusting her being 15 doesn’t take the fact that she murdered her mother and then tried to do the same with her stepfather
@@biggusdickus7530 It’s appalling that you can’t empathize with a mentally unstable child dealing with divorced parents, a drug-addicted father, heavy SSRI medications, withdrawal, and trauma. She’s carrying more than anyone should. How much pain can she endure?
She did something horrible, but she’s a victim of a disease and a society that fails to understand her. She should be punished, but as a mentally ill person, not locked up with criminals for life.
Her psychiatrist should be held accountable for prescribing SSRI medications to a bipolar child without mood stabilizers, and her mother should never have left a gun accessible in a home with mentally unstable children. U.S. gun laws require secure storage, especially around children or mentally ill individuals, with some states having even stricter rules.
I will say, the way the stepfather is acting is just like how Sydney Powell’s dad acted on the stand. I’m confident that they’re both just loving fathers completely blindsided by senseless violence 💔
Exactly! That same case came to my mind too, I don't like how people jumped to call their interaction "creepy", he may just be a caring stepfather who is trying to process the loss of two people he loved and with whom he recently just formed a family
What about when step father said I love you to Carly and she giggled ? Isn’t that strange? 🤔 during the trial
@@aliaroriguez9716 No just no. Him telling her "I love you" isn't creepy but her laughing was.
@@aliaroriguez9716 no you weirdo, DADS LOVING THEIR KIDS IS A NORMAL THING.
@cantsay2205 no it's weird contextually.
I took Zoloft as a kid, it made me dissociate and stare at walls for hours. My mom used the word "zombie" when telling my doctor, and they ended up taking me off of it. I was on another medication that made me very aggressive, and I would punch my brothers violently, and they took me off that.
There are studies that show weed use can cause psychotic episodes and contribute to schizophrenia.. These same studies show that if you have psychotic symptoms present before ever using the drug, weed use can make those psychotic symptoms much worse.
In her case, I don't have anything to say in defense of her actions; killing someone is unforgivable, especially killing your family members in cold blood.
It's hard to get meds right for the doctors and yourself. I'm on Zoloft and I can function through my day normally. However while others gave me the same experience that you described.
it made me feel like a zombie as well. i got put on bupropion with the zoloft to counteract it and it worked so well
Yep. Came here to mention pretty much the same. I don't disagree with the verdict. But I'm bipolar with psychotic features and comorbid ADHD and every time they've put me on an antidepressant, even with a mood stabilizer, especially on Zoloft, I went violent - not suicidal. Granted I was cognizant enough even with psychosis symptoms present I wouldn't have killed anyone but I had to break and beat on stuff to get it out my system (yes, even as an adult) because I was so agitated and impulsive.
Also weed will trigger psychosis in me where meth nor crack never did.
And as far as her ADHD assessment, she's high IQ (which masks performance issues) and the questionnaire is very subjective especially to someone lacking insight and other's cognitive and behavioral experiences for comparison. She may not perceive herself having issues relaxing if that's her experience of what it means to relax, for example. The struggle can be invisible in high IQ patients but the social and reasoning deficits will still ruin your life.
I just want Carly to get a better psych eval while in prison. I don't want to see her spend basically her entire life behind bars when there were other factors her defense did shit-all to do their homework on that very well could have been the case. Her body language doesn't mean anything, she's 15, on psychotropic meds that still haven't been adjusted properly, and still hasn't even processed what she did when her brain isn't even fully developed.
I have heard SOO many cases of someone with Bipolar ii being put on an ssri and having a psychotic break. I was put on one a few months back and it completely fucked with me (I have adhd and bipolar) and it caused paranoid delusions including voices, i recognized it immediately and told my doctor and as soon as I was off it went away. I don't understand how they could say her medication switch wasn't part of it, not defending her but it definitely played a part. Too much serotonin on a bipolar brain can cause horrible symptoms that can completely distort your thinking and actions. Also I very much love Stephanie but she states in this video that hallucinating isn't as common with bipolar ii, yes it is. It's extremely common. 1 out of 4 people with bipolar experience hallucinations.
Yes I agree I think it’s a reason but not an excuse
13:13 watch the white retriever. That one knows something is seriously wrong. Watch the way the ears are pressed down and the way the body moves tightly and how it checks Carly every couple seconds. It knows.
Exactly! I noticed that too
Watching them reacting to this horrific tragedy happening to their family absolutely shattered my heart
I noticed that too. That dog can tell her vibe is off
Right I thought he looked afraid of her. He jumped when she pulled her other hand from behind her back to text.
Dogs can sense and understand a lot I think dogs have even been trained to help people who suffer from a few different mental illnesses like schizophrenia (I could be wrong tho so feel free to correct me) but they seem to be able to tell sometimes when things like delusions and that come on, I know that might not be the exact same here but it reminds me of it cause of DID and the doggoes, etc.
I think he doesn’t smile as much when talking abt his wife bc he literally can’t think of her happily after he saw her in that state. Whereas with Carly he’s probably still in denial and or trying to rationalize it in his head and I do believe she has charmed him to side with her.
Indeed
EXACTLY
Hello stephanie, two young girls were brutally murdered in Turkey yesterday. The killer's name is Semih Çelik. Can you make a video about this and carry the voices of women in Turkey to the global stage?
Another thing to note about this case is that supposedly, according to her friends, Carly had attempted to contact her biological father and her mother was worried about her safety and started taking her phone at night and would check her social media messages to make sure they weren't talking. As a result, Carly complained to her friends that her mom was too strict and started keeping burner phones. This was on top of hiding underage drinking and vaping. Her mom was also worried for her mental health and was the one who got her help because again according to her friends, she also SH. Which is why her friends ran to her mom in the first place to get her help when they were worried about her behavior. It seems like her mom "being too strict" (just trying to help and protect her) was clearly the motive behind the case, as is in most cases of teens horrifically murdering their parents. Which makes the case even more sad, to realize she killed her mom who was doing so much to help her.
I also think it's important to point out that her "making such a stupid decision despite supposedly being incredibly smart" and crying hysterically at the trial is clear signs her decision was based on impulse. A lot of people are confused by these behaviors, but it seems very clear to be teenage impulsiveness mixed with severe mental health issues that cause impulsiveness, on top of 5 days before the murder having her meds switched which would only amplify her existing mental health issues. Yes she is smart and manipulative, but she made a horrendous impulsive decision in the heat of the moment based on her emotions. "Smart" people can do stupid things. You can look "calm" and make an impulsive choice. Having severe mental health issues also does not automatically make one "insane" or "psychotic" at the time of a crime. Mental illness is a spectrum and someone can have a warped perception and unstable emotions while also still being fully in control of their actions. You can acknowledge someone is severely mentally unwell while also acknowledging they CHOSE to do a horrible thing. Two things can be true at the same time and acknowledging she was mentally unwell doesn't take away from her CHOOSING to harm others. She clearly did not think through the consequences of her actions in the heat of the moment, and is why yes she did indeed only cry during the trial because she was upset at the consequences of what she chose to do.
I think some people have started taking the laws around insanity a bit too literally. Someone can be ruled not insane at the time of a crime but still be mentally unstable.
This in no way is meant to justify anything she did, but rather give an explanation as to why she chose to do such a horrible stupid thing, especially when supposedly she's extremely "intelligent" and clearly charming and manipulative. She had plenty of opportunities to stop what she was doing, like call 911 and get her mother help when her mother was crying out for help, but she instead chose to keep going and attempt to kill someone else which clearly showed it was a choice and she was aware of what she was doing. She acted out on impulsive thoughts due to her emotions because she didn't want to take accountability for her actions when her mother found her vapes.
Also side note, while weed doesn't make people homicidal or aggressive, it does have interactions with Lexapro which again she was only on for 5 days (new psych meds cause a ton of side effects until the body adjusts). There is also a thing called weed psychosis which happens to people who have psychiatric disorders that make them prone to psychosis, **but no she was not in a state of psychosis. I just feel it's important to point out for those who downplay the potential affect on a 14 yr old's brain. I'm an adult who uses cannabis daily and I've experienced weed psychosis and it's definitely a real thing and pretty terrifying. **Obviously she was not in psychosis so it doesn't pertain to her but that doesn't mean "weed is just weed" and can't ever affect someone.
I agree with you. I had no idea her medication got changed 5 days before that's crazy
Thank you so much for all of this. I was a "troubled" child when I was younger due to a combination of abuse and trauma, mental illness, medication problems, and more. Watching this girl was like watching a younger version of myself, and some of the misinformative things Stephanie said were genuinely upsetting to me.
Obviously there's never an excuse for murder, but man, I have been medicated in such a way that I truly 100% believed there were no consequences in reality. That if I died, I would just get back up carefree. Medication can fuck you up if you're given the wrong thing.
do you know if the police checked her burner phones?
Thank you for spending the time to text this. For those who read and understand, this makes so much sense. Mental Health cases arent always black and white, especially in this day and age.
Did you watch the same video as everyone else? There was nothing impulsive about her actions. She was cold & calculated. She didn't freak out. She's a psychopath. She purposely killed her mother & waited to kill her stepfather. She's selfish & evil. Her tears are fake.
her crying at the trial when she was the one who intentionally and strategically murdered her own mother is actually insane to me
she may have been talked into it tbh. like there's talks abt her step father almsot grooming her. but i think the bio dad may smth to do with it. well the drug part most likely.
I am not by any means defending her when I say this:
You have to consider her age and the court room environment. That is a high stress place to be, and a trial is nothing easy. She is only 14. Her crying is very much normal to me. Is it a sign of remorse? Debatable. But people cry for other reasons than remorse. I have known a good many people who just cry out of stress, and it is undeniable that an environment like that will prove stressful on a child, regardless of guilt
She is a child who was brutally abused by her dad and was mentally breaking. She doesn't even remember this
Why is it insane? Are regret, anxiety, grief or distress impossible feelings for a murderer to have? I think pretending that murderers are one-sided caricatures prevents us from understanding the psychology behind crime in general. It would be way more insane if she didn't show any feelings, no?
@@blueguitarist
Real dad or step dad ?
I don't know anything about this story
As a mental health professional, I’m not defending this girl at all, because even if she was schizophrenic, it does NOT excuse murder.
I will say this though: Marijuana can absolutely induce and exacerbate symptoms of psychosis. I have seen this happen often in my career. You need to be extremely cautious of any psychoactive drugs when you have mental health problems.
Came here to say this.
agreed. I looked up people's experience on velaxin and found a forum. the main advice is never ever take alcohol and drugs if you have severe depression and predisposition to schizophrenia. weed included
thank god I stay away from drugs or it I would've been dead already
@bloochoo2870 if you read the comment carefully, she is not excusing the girl. The girl is guilty as hell. This comment is just clarifying that weed can aggravate certain mental illnesses and induce psychosis in those people. Its not a fact that a lot of people know but it's true.
This ! Absolutely. Even someone with severe anxiety or PTSD should be cautious with any psychoactive substance. If we are dealing with any psychotic disorders or disorders such as bipolar which include manic episodes someone needs to be EXTRA careful, I'd recommend that they stay away all together. I've watched people's symptoms reach severe levels after having a few tokes. I've seen people get admitted after a few tokes. Weed is fine when you're totally stable but it's dangerous when you suffer with any mental health disorders.
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Stephanie, there was a gruesome murder took place in Türkiye on 4th of this month. Two 19 year old girls İkbal and Ayşenur were killed by a monsterous man, one of the girls' head was thrown down from the ramparts in İstanbul Edirnekapı in front of her mother. The media is banned from talking about it, one of the victims name wasn't even revealed until people online brought it up. We are so sick of hearing these murders so often, please help us raise our voice globally. We'd appreciate you talking about it.
spamming the comment section and begging her to make a video on something isn't gonna make her want to make a video on it, BTW.
@@m-fh1km oh mind your own business I beg, we need all the eyes we can get and our cries for her help did work, she said they're working on the case so again, mind your own business. Besides, I don't even see what's your point. I only made one single comment, who is spamming exactly? Chill bro.
i will say as someone with bipolar, the two most severe psychotic episodes i've had were triggered by weed and then by ssris. the manic episode from ssris was when i received my diagosis, and apparently it's pretty common for them to cause mania. THAT BEING SAID even at my most insane (literally) violence was never ever a risk, and in fact my illness put me in situations where i dealt with violence from other people because i was so vulnerable.
Me too, I've done most drugs, more than once, and for some reason weed would make me so anxious and have wild wild thoughts
Yes, people who say weed can't cause psychosis don't know what they're talking about. There's a higher chance of that happening if you already have a mental illness and you're under 25.
Everyone is different, just because you didn’t have violent thoughts and reactions doesn’t mean everyone with bipolar doesn’t. Not excusing her actions but I’m so sick of people saying “Oh I have this but don’t do x, so people who have it can’t do x”.
It’s like when people do oppression Olympics with mental health forgetting it affects people differently. Misconceptions like this is part of the problem but y’all won’t listen lol
It's why my mom's terrified of me doing any drugs. Her friend's brother got a weed brownie and it triggered dormant schizophrenia or something presenting similarly
thank you. there were a lot of very inaccurate statements about mental health/psychosis in this video.
⏱️ Timestamps by TimeSkip ⏱️
00:00:00 - Emergency Codes Explained
00:01:33 - Carly's Friends React
00:02:50 - Trial and Guilty Verdicts
00:05:56 - Carly's Life Before the Incident
00:08:24 - The Day of the Murder
00:10:34 - Carly's Arrest and Aftermath
00:14:04 - Carly's Disturbing Actions
00:17:23 - Kari's Mental State
00:20:02 - Carly Rejects Plea Deal
00:21:23 - Heath's Controversial Testimony
00:22:52 - Heath's 911 Call Played
00:25:01 - Heath's Relationship with Carly
00:27:32 - Speculations on Heath's Behavior
00:30:56 - Public Reactions to Heath's Defense
00:39:16 - Carly's Courtroom Appearance
00:40:45 - Defense Strategies and Demeanor
00:42:20 - Behavior During Trial Observations
00:45:21 - Arguments on Mental Health History
00:47:15 - Controversial Defense Claims
00:54:32 - Prosecution's Counterarguments
00:57:51 - Defense's Appeal and Future Prospects
01:00:12 - Public Opinion on Conviction
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How did u do it so fast wtf
@@dudekisser17AI!! Obviously 😭
HOW??
Bro it's been THREE minutes
Hummmmm??? Im confused, how-
I think the reason Keith is so forgiving of carly is because she's all he has left of Ashley. People deal with grief in weirds ways and sometimes you have to lie to yourself to survive.
true
Agree
i feel like the stepdad is just grieving his wife and holding onto the only thing he has left, his stepdaughter, even though she’s the killer.
I think it was Carly that was humming bcs you can hear a faint “help me” right before so I think she hummed to drown out her sounds
I’m sorry she does not look innocent to me. She looks evil. I feel like she planned this out and attempted to plant things in her diary etc. in an attempt to plead insanity.
I don’t think her counsel was ineffective 🤷🏽♀️ they attempted to defend her but it’s difficult to defend someone who is on video and admitted to the crime
Was thinking the same
hey Stephanie, can you please also cover a case in Turkey in which a boy(19) decapitated two(19) girls and did unspeakable things to their bodies then later threw them from a building. he also harassed the girl for five years straight. this is a case that needs exposure and reach as wide as it can.
As someone who is from and lives in mississippi, I can say that this case really shocked the whole state! I hope this helps reform our mental health systems.
You heard about the Cameron crook incident right
Something about the southern accent or cultural tone of calling a stranger “baby” makes it far more comforting than creepy/inappropriate like it would be in other parts of the country/world.
Sweete/sweetheart, Hun(Hunny) are names I call strangers (usually younger people) while out in the wild.
it feels more tragic cause that may be his first response seeing a little girl in distress, even though she was the actual killer
@@melonthemelons This was my thought too. 'Baby' usually carries this tone that you're here for someone younger and are going to help them/protect them if possible. His first instinct was probably to want to protect this child who seems confused and just crawled out of a storm drain. But she was the killer.
I'm a Brazilian and although I have issues with certain parts of southern culture in the US (like conservatism and racism) Southern American English is the best English. And that's one of the reasons.
Yeah, I’m not American, but it immediately reminded me of how irish men use “love” is just a kind way to address someone
100% true for me, too. I'm a hon, person mostly, but I slip into sweetheart, baby, and others as the situation warrants. The more sadness or distress, the more reassuring. It's just in your blood, even though I'm only borderline southern.
Just listened to this podcast this morning at work. This girl is GUILTY!! She 100% knew what she was doing, especially texting her step father on her mom’s phone! Everyone excusing her because she’s young is sick
I mean,it's valid dude. We let Kyle Rittenhouse go 🤷♂️
@@ChadOfAllChads Ah yes, Kyle who literally had people mobbing him, ran away, and was forced to defend himself when two people in the crowd tried to shoot him, which we have ON VIDEO. Your ignorance is astounding.
@@coffeefox5703 You must not have seen what his lawyers saying lol sorry, ex lawyer.
@@ChadOfAllChads I don't give a flying fuck what some lawyer said. Video evidence is enough, and it was clearly shown that two men deliberately brandished weapons and pointed them at Kyle with the intent to kill. One of the shooters that survived even said that he intended to kill Kyle, completely unashamed about the fact. Mob mentality is disgusting, and that was on clear display that day.
No one is excusing her, people are forgetting that kids hormones and brains aren’t developed and they can do stupid and heinous things. Murder is terrible but I don’t think you can compare a misguided 14 year old to a full grown adult like most convicted criminals.
People don’t take mental health seriously when it comes to kids, then get surprised when they exhibit disturbing behaviors. It’s just unfortunate all around. Now 2 lives are over due to negligence
hi Stephanie, thank you for your hard work. There has been multiple cases of m*rder in Turkey lately, a very young child was m*rdered by her uncle and her body was lost for days, now yesterday multiple women were k*lled with a sword in the middle of street. the cases are ongoing and we wanna be heard. Can you perhaps cover a case for us, our voices arent heard by anyone and there has been a rapid increase in m*rders of women and children here.
The father has severe trauma. He clearly loves this child and can't come to terms the child he has raised as his own killed his wife and tried to kill him. I find those who are suspicious of him the creepy ones.
They just have daddy issues.
@@cantsay2205 as someone with daddy issues but can clearly see and understand that father is just traumatized and trying to cope : dont lump me in w them LMAOO , those ppl are just crazy and dont want to admit people are complex beings that struggle with emotions even with horrifying crimes
@@luciferswaltzSame. I may hate my dad but that doesn’t make all dads evil 😂
This is not in Carly's defense whatsoever, I truly believe she's guilty and should be charged to the fullest extent of the law, and I sincerely believe her weed usage had zero part to play in the murder of her mother. She's a disturbed and manipulative young girl who needs to be brought to justice. But when I heard "it's just weed" that kinda struck a chord with me, so I want to share my experience with it. Not many people are fully aware of this, but those with underlying psychosis can make things far worse with the use of THC products. My mother has bipolar, and she used to be a relatively stable person before she started smoking. Like yes, she still piled up clothes and would go from manic to depressive frequently, but she could still hold down a job, hold a conversation, and be a reasonably functional human being. When she started smoking weed, it was like a switch flipped in her brain. She is now addicted to weed, talks to herself, can't hold a conversation, shaves her head, her anxiety spikes to an alarming degree, she experiences paranoid delusions regarding the police, vaccines, technology, etc, she loses focus extremely quickly, leaves tasks unfinished then moves onto the next over and over, can't clean up after herself, can't drive safely, and hasn't had a job in 13 years. Yes, I have tried to get her help, but nothing I do works. Some mental health professionals will outright refuse to work with bipolar patients who use weed. It's like trying to fix an unfixable problem, and the only way they can make any progress is if they quit weed entirely. My old friend who has schizophrenia would experience heavier and more disturbing hallucinations when he smoked weed. This is all coming from a 25 year old former stoner, who had been a regular user since I was 14. Weed affected me far differently than it did my mother. If anything, it helped me focus better during my acting and language arts classes, to the point that I excelled in those subjects and scored higher on writing and reading tests than my peers. Given that I never raised a hand against my abusive parents, and my mother, even in the worst periods of her psychosis, never ever tried to hurt me physically, drives home further that Carly was not experiencing weed-induced psychosis when she killed her own mother. She clearly knew what she was doing, given the camera footage, her behavior before, during, and after the murder, and the audacity she displayed in showing her friend her own mother's corpse. She was lucid throughout the entire thing.
Thanks for this. I made a similar comment. Weed doesn't make people schizophrenic, but substance-induced psychosis is most definitely a thing. The younger you are when you begin using, the greater your brain is impacted. Again, not everyone is impacted the same way, and I am also not defending Carly, but I think it's important to remember the vast majority of netizens are not mental health professionals when they make these erroneous statements.
The other thing to consider is that this is something that happened over time. It's possible it was always going to get worse, regardless.
@@nichan008 Thats not what the research shows. People get strangely defensive and never want to admit weed isn't a 'harmless drug" that there is no such thing. It does seem to trigger/cause mental health problems like schizophrenia.
It is also KNOW to stop brain development. Start smoking regularly at 14 and your mental age doesn't really progress.
But hey don't let the every growing body of research on the harms of weed stop you.
@@LizThomas-dp7sr Reading comprehension is so low nowadays. I never said anything like that. I gave an additional hypothetical to remind that more than a single factor should always be considered.
@@nichan008 No you were being dismissive. You didn't just give an alternative you dismissed what someone said happened and then said something based on nothing.
Personal experience and dozens of studies done disprove your 'hypothesis'. Adding mind altering drugs when you already have an issues with chemical imbalances in the brain is obviously going to make the situation worse.
At 15:08 I think it was Carly singing “no” not her mother because very faintly you can hear someone in the background most likely her mother saying “help me”.
first i love your pfp - two im gonna throw up
I don’t hear anyone in the background. When did u hear it? The beginning or end?
If you go and watch the entire clip from the home camera and wear headphones, you can sadly hear the mom say "help me" before the daughter sang her creepy "no"@@ashleylamountain6352
@@ashleylamountain6352 right before she starts to sing/hum
Naw Carly's lips aren't even moving
So sick and tired of ppl playing "behavior analysts" when not only are they not trained in that, but the whole discipline itself is highly disputed by actual scientific scrutiny.
This case and the killer gives such uncanny valley feelings. Her age, looks, motivations, behaviours in trial... like those creepy dolls in horror movies.
Same
Not to be mean but I think her face is more maturely structured so putting her in the kid clothes is giving adult Dora actress in the town musical.
@@mentalalchemy4819 oh yes, maybe that is why uncanny feelings. It's like they try to make her look like a child, but it feels so false.
The stepdad in my opinion I don't think he should have suspicion on him just because he's recalling fond memories. His wife is dead and he's likely trying to look back on those memories while still trying to cope.
Oh, I completely agree. He’s remembering his currently deceased wife who is violently murdered, and then in comparison to his only alive family member who is the daughter he’s not smiling about the fact that she murdered someone he’s looking upon those happy memories that he still has in that moment.
@@Jellyfishe-fy1sk Is that a Boothill pfp I see?👀
*WEED CAN DEFINITELY CAUSE PSYCHOSIS* I hate when people talk about an illness that they don't know much about and haven't experienced someone go through this or atleast ask people who have schizophrenia and family members who have it.. I've witnessed weed cause psychotic breaks, it lasts a month or even longer until they get hospitalized and then when they're better they think they can smoke because they aren't "sick" now and it happens all over again, I've seen 3 people go through this
There have been studies that have linked weed use and psychotic breaks, especially in adolescents and teens.
It's very unlikely but not completely impossible. Thing is alot of cannabis is artificial. But coke is by the worst. That caused my brother to break.
I've heard this so many times that weed today is not the same as it was in the 70's. Weed has been tampered with to be stronger and God only knows what other chemicals that it contains. It is completely plausible that it causes psychotic breaks.
my younger brother struggled w anger management & abnormal mood regulation since he was a child, he seemed to have it under control until college when he became a heavy weed smoker, it ruined his life bc after months of consistent use his anger came back much worse & a very obvious mood disorder destroyed his ability to hold down a job longer than 3 months, lost all his friends, no lover, no ambitions or hope for a better life. He now admits he was addicted to weed & refuses to smoke at all now. His mood is now more regulated
went through this myself. it never got better until i quit using it. my diagnoses definitely factored into it so it won’t happen to everyone but you worded it perfectly. i hope you and your loved ones are safe/doing well
hi stephanie, ive been watching your content and keeping up with the podcasts for a while now, and i greatly appreciate how you help people's voices be heard. just today two women were brutally killed by a man in turkey who committed suicide shortly after. in turkey, women are killed and murdered due to being victims of the patriarchy almost every day. there was even a deepfake porn incident much like the much bigger one that went down in korea, albeit nothing was done about it here. we as women are in danger, are constantly followed home, stalked, raped, and murdered in turkey. i wish to see you spread the word and awareness if possible. we, as the women of turkey, want our voices to be heard.
there are many cases like this one if you look into it. whether that be a young girl murdered by her uncle, a housewife killed by her husband in front of their daughter, or a lady being killed by a random stranger on the street, being deemed an 'easy target'. it's terrifying to be a woman in turkey.
My thoughts:
I think the people calling her manipulative are giving her too much credit, and the people calling her mentally ill are not giving her enough. This case lies somewhere in between. She is a child, yes; at 14, children typically understand consequences, yes. She knew what she was doing, and knew it was wrong, but did not weigh the gravity of the wrong. Which is why she ended up crying in the courtroom, I think, upon hearing the verdict. When you are a kid like that, shit does not really hit you until you are knee deep in it. Adults have the ability to see it from a few miles away, and kids do not see it at all. Teenagers lie somewhere in the middle. They see it, but they do not understand the intensity until it happens.
Her strange behaviour I think was partially coaching from the attorneys, and her reacting to that environment. I grew up in a state where teenagers participated in what is known as "teen court", where kids are tried before jurors between the ages of 14 and 17. Being a juror on some of those cases while growing up was stressful, to me, as a juror. Imagine being the one on trial in an adult setting.
I think she is not mentally ill (at least not in the way her defense was making her out to be- she very well could have another mental illness, but that does not cause someone to kill), and I do think she is guilty, I just think she did not realize how guilty SHE was until the verdict came.
Whether she should have been tried as an adult is a whole other topic, one I have mixed feelings on.
This comment should have more likes. I obviously am just as curious to see court scenes as the next person but I genuinely did not see anything particularly weird in any of the court clips. She's acting pretty much exactly as you would expect from an insecure, awkward, angsty teenager who craves validation and experiences intense shock when she starts to realize the full extent of her actions. Even the fact that she thought she was smarter than everyone else and liked cartoon villains and whatever? You'd be surprised how many teenagers go through such a phase.
It doesn't explain how she managed to become so violent all of a sudden, but then again, the court clips really are not the whole story. I mean, if the mother was alive to tell the story, would she have told us something much more telling? Or if we had waited for a few years for the stepdad to give a testimony, having fully recovered from the shock and all, would he have admitted something about the family dynamic we didn't get to hear now? Possibly.
But trying to read too much from the facial expressions of a 14-year-old who was stupid enough to not accept the plea deal and got tangled into a pointless trial about her insanity as a result? Yeah that's dumb.
@@luskaneseprince I mean a plea deal that get's you 40 years at 14 feels like a life penalty anyways, one is a completely different person at 45 than at 14. Her life is over in anycase and she probably gets sa in prison.
@@leonfa259 I meant that last part as in she was stupid to not accept it because children don't fully understand the consequences and risks they are taking, and that this was yet another sign of her childishness and immaturity instead of a sign of her being extremely manipulative or completely cold-blooded or weirdly creepy or whatever else a lot of other people are trying to say. Now she indeed gets to spend her life in prison and learn a lesson about consequences... however, why you would bring up SA is beyond me. Not a single person deserves SA as a punishment, no matter who they are, but especially not an underage child. It tells me a lot about you for writing such a comment so callously. Only violent males immediately jump to SA fantasies when they have found an "acceptable " target.
@@leonfa259hey dude talking about rąping kids is creepy.... You're a paedo.... Jump
I disagree, i think it was a psychotic break 100%, ive never killed but ive been there & done things i could never do now, it mostly ended up harming me but it also hurt my mom & my daughter & ill NEVER forgive myself & people acting like mental health is just an excuse are making the world a worse place in my opinion
Hi, Stephanie, I'd like you to cover this case from Spain. Several important business men raped girls aged 14-17 for years, but because the trial didn't happen until 10 years later the men won't go to prison and at least one has died because now they're in their 70, 80, 90s. It was a prostitution ring taking advantage of vulnerable and poor girls. Please, we need coverage of this case, justice must be made💜
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I am a diagnosed type 1 bipolar along with 3 different types of personality disorder and I have struggled with addiction for 6 years and when my mom found out and confronted me about it it does make a stressful situation but the way she 'handled' it by just shooting her mom dead is so disgusting what the actual hell was she thinking?? to even try to make a defense of a certain disorder is just weird and disrespectful
Some psychologist said during the trial they think she doesn't even have bipolar disorder, either way her actions are not due to any mental illness, she is just evil. She had planned to do it for a while before it happened, she seems to be a monster, just wanting to kill people for the thrill of it and because they annoy her or whatever. I hope you are coping and get adequate help for your situation!
I have bipolar II and I have plenty of struggles with my family, I am just a year older then her.
Her journal just gives me weird, stage vibes, and I mean, everyone is different but I don’t believe she could have killed her just out of mental illness?? My bipolar II has only made me want to hurt myself and run away, Id assume thats the same for others most of the time, also she seemed very planned with her actions and if anything it’s unnerving. I hope she gets better, if she is ill, but at the same time all my condolences go to the family.
honestly their pleas and defending that it's all the mental illness puts the people who are also struggling with some sort illness in the dark light and it's not okay. it's clearly not because she is ill, in my opinion i feel like it's to do with her biological dad like constantly letting her in a environment which is not okay for child to be in has something to do with him smoking on her face forcing her to drink she might have also felt like killing is really not that big of a deal her journals telling there is no hell and heaven everyone gotta die someday is strangely shocking for a 14 yr old to think abt maybe she really did'nt see killing or death as such big of a deal
Hello Stephanie, im one of your turkish followers and i wanted to inform you about the femicide cases that have been rising in turkiye for the past decade. Just yesterday two teenage girls, both 19, were killed by the same guy ,also 19, who was admitted to a psych ward but was let out and had drug problems. One of the girls were dismembered into three pieces in broad day light and the other was found with a cut throat. The girls İlkbal Uzuner and Ayşenur Halil, the killer Semih Çelik took his own life by jumping from a building and tied the dismembered parts of ilkbal to himself before jumping down. As women in this country we are terrified each time we go out and we are not even safe in broad day light. Many women have come out to say how nothing gets done even if they report it to the police. İt would really help if you could cover this case and shine some light globally about the femicide in Turkiye, thank you for your videos🫶🏼🙏
As someone who has been through something very traumatic and had to make a call like that, the step dad's crys are so real and raw it actually made me cry. And sitting in court he is clearly just completely numb from all the emotions he has been through. He obviously knows this is what is his wife would have wanted for someone to look after the daughter still, they were aware she had mental health problems. So so sad 😢 also why are people so shocked that a 14 year old with mental health problems is manipulative?
His life has been completely altered, of COURSE he is going to latch on to any remaining resemblance of normality. That’s just human nature. And to the people saying “I don’t know if I could forgive my kid” Exactly. You DONT KNOW you’re not in that situation so you can’t comment on what you would do. People seem to forget this is real life and not a reality tv show.
Between hearing the sounds of the mother dying and how scared and confused the dogs looked, that video in the house is so heartbreaking.
literally going to haunt me for the rest of my life !
what's even more heartbreaking, that haunting sound of the mother dying isn't the mom. in the full clip, her mom faintly says 'help me'. the humming we heard is Carly singing 'noooo' to her mom's pleas.
Hi Stephanie, can your cover a case that happemed in Turkey? Two 19 year old women were decapated by a 19 year old boy and police did nothing even though he has been harassing one of these girls for 5 years. We, as Turkish women, feel unsafe and we need exposure to make this case global. Please make a video about this. Thank you
I watched the trial. The moment I saw the video of Carly Gregg moments before and after she shot her mother, I decided she should be in whatever facility choosen for the rest of her life. It was also impossible to ignore that at some point in that video, Ashley says “help me.” And the dogs hear it and so does she and she sings to “nooooooonoooo” to cover her mothers voice and according to investigators went and covered her mum’s face with a towel and crossed her hands on her chest and she didn’t ask about her mum once while getting arrested. Even IF mental health was an issue. She shouldn’t be allowed to walk free .
Why should she ask about her mum? Her mum's status was unfortunately clear.
@@leonfa259if she had asked about her mom it would be evidence she was out of her mind at the moment and not fully conscious when she did it. But she never asked, she knew what she did and wasn't remorseful
After listening to this, I asked my dad if he would still love and support me if I did the same exact thing Carley did and he said “yes” with no hesitation. This makes me personally believe there is no way the stepdad could be anything but a victim.
Easy to say hard to actually do. Asking someone a question like that is pointless, its like asking would you stand up to a Nazi and risk your own life. Most people would say yes but the reality is that most people when push comes to shove won't. People weren't even willing to risk getting sick during covid and were turning on loved ones for masks ext.
It’s scary how many parents just blindly and delusional stick by their kids side even as murderers..
@@LizThomas-dp7sr I can see where you’re coming from but you don’t know the specific aspects of my life. My dad is my favorite person in the world and I’m also his. He did elaborate after my question that he wouldn’t completely know if he’d forgive me but he would never doubt that he loves me.
That’s F’n unhinged. Humanity is trash lol.
@@LizThomas-dp7sr you could say the same argument for the opposite idea. Obviously asking someone is not the same as having the event play out in real life but I personally think people would have a harder time not standing by their loved one in this case. You'd be surprised how many people stand by abusers/murderers, even criminal ones, because they feel they need to or have developed an attachment they're not able to let go of. The way human brains work are quite fascinating, it's not about logic. Your brain will literally try to protect itself by convincing you things are not real, because the weight of believing them would destroy you emotionally
In Psych Nursing school I did a round in a State Hospital that had both an LPS and Forensic side. Honestly this sort of thing is kind of joke. People think that pleading insanity will get them off of a murder conviction. But they just don't go free, they get sent somewhere worse. If you don't have mental illness, you will be medicated as if you did. And you will be around people who truly have mental illnesses that might be resistant to treatment. It's more dangerous. IF your case comes up for review before the Attorney General, but if they feel like you lied about being mentally ill to escape a murder trial, they'll laugh in your face. I was literally in a meeting where a malingering client tried to tell the Attorney General that she was better and could go home (that she had found Jesus, as if he was hiding), and he laughed on the phone. He told her she'd rot in there.
Interesting! I wonder what the inmate death rates are in comparison to prisons. I can’t imagine being more safe near someone who is paranoid and hallucinating , vs a cell mate who mostly just want to also be left alone.
Yeah, I never understood why they try so hard to plead insanity. Is it an ego thing?
@@modkip25I think people feel it’ll help them escape the consequences. But you cannot get away with stuff. Even if the consequences don’t involve the law, you can’t escape the consequences of your actions.
The last breath of her mom is so chilling and heartbreaking. As a 14 year old you should know right from wrong whether you have bipolar disorder or any other kind of mental illness you have. Mental illness does not give you an excuse to kill people.
I absolutely agree, I'm 14 as well. I have a hard time with feeling empathy, but I understand and know when to apply it. She is absolutely evil to take her own moms life.
I was going to bring up her lack of empathy! It sounds like she has ASPD/Sociopathy. Just because of her lack of empathy for everyone but herself. Even if she does have this disorder, it doesn’t mean she doesn’t know right from wrong, and it still doesn’t justify killing someone.
Also I do want to say this to clarify and let you know I’m not judging you, when I mentioned ASPD because of her lack of empathy. That doesn’t mean I’m saying since you lack empathy you have ASPD too, I don’t mean that at all. There are a lot of mental illnesses/disorders that can cause lack of empathy as well as other reasons. For example, I got into the wrong crowd and started hard drugs and while I was on it and while I was getting sober I had a hard time feeling empathy, but then after like 16 months of being sober it started to come back. That’s just my story though. Empathy is also taught through guardians while you’re growing, and you can learn empathy at any point too. It might take awhile and I’m not sure how effective it is, but it’s worth a try if you are looking to do so.
Long story short I just don’t want to make you feel like I’m judging you for anything I have nothing to judge anyone for especially when I’ve been through the same thing just in different circumstances, and also that with me experiencing lack of empathy I know that if she does then it still doesn’t give her any excuse to kill someone. Anyways sorry this is so long I just don’t want to make you or anyone who might read what I say to heart😊
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It’s the fact you can hear her mom say help me in the footage it’s so heartbreaking 🕊
What true crime have these people been watching? Classic denial. The stepdad being like that is normal. You watch true crime often you see this all the time.
Hi Stephanie can you please cover a case that recently happened in Turkey? Two 19 year old girls were brutally murdered and decapitated by a 19 year old boy in Istanbul who's been harassing one of the girls for five years but the police never took any action. Turkish women are being killed and r*ped every single day while the government doesn't even care. We all feel unsafe and threatened, we can't go out without fear. This case needs to be made global, this needs to change. We don't want to live in fear, we have the right to live. Please consider making a video about this and be our hope. Thank you!
the footage that captured it inside their home was so disturbing , the dogs immediately became concerned for the mother i can’t imagine what type of monster thinks of doing this to their loved ones
The theories about the step dad are ridiculous. By his response at the scene of the crime and the 911 call, you can see why during the court case, he was quite literally disassociating. Maybe its because he has that obligation that her mom would not want her daughter to have a potential life sentence or if he is just delirious, but that guy is not okay after only 3-6 months
4:35 I cannot imagine being in court, being found guilty of over 30 charges, and having to listen over and over "sir is that your verdict? Yes. Mam is that your verdict? Yes."
Then you should never imagine killing bcs if you kill you're gonna listen to a lot of those "is this your verdict ? Yes ma'am/sir"
It was 3 diff charges but people found her guilty on them over 30 times
Stephanie please cover turkish cases. Our nation is suffering from injustice and m*rder of woman and children. Yesterday Semih Çelik (19m) dismembered his ex Ikbal (19f) in a public area in day time in ONE HOUR and also k*lled his ex. In a video he recorded a year ago, he is listening to Pixies - Where is my mind while saying goodbye (a s*icide note) to ikbal telling her how much he tried to k*ll her and couldnt and now he will end his own life. In the song there’s a lyric that says “with your feet in the air and head on the ground.” After a year of this recording, yesterday he was on top of a tower. Dismembered ikbal and called her mom. When the mom arrived, he threw ikbal’s head off the tower to the ground to her mom. He remained seated on top of the tower with ikbal’s dismembered lower body. Everyone says he was on drugs but it was planned. Please cocer more turkish cases. There is more than 20 only on the tip of my tongue. I’m so tired of being Turkish.
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No
I'm so very sorry to hear of this terrible case.
Those poor girls!
That poor Mother.
The poor women & children of Turkey. 💔
I feel like the white dog is like "what did you DO" And the golden one is like "this is not happening" 🥺🥺 ugh the dynamic w dogs n humans is fucked up in this video 🥺
Am i weird 'cause all i wonder in this tragedy is what happened to those dogs.
@@SebnOz yes? You care about the two dogs that will be taken care of, more than the poor mother that was killed? Beyond wild
@@SebnOz I'm sure Heath (the dad) is still caring for the dogs. I see no reason he'd get rid of them.
@@SebnOz There is a video of the stepdad being carried on a stretcher and he is asking the police officer to see to it that someone is taking care of the dogs. I think he will take good care of them or re-home them to a good home, he seems to be a generally caring person that poor man.
@@SebnOz no you're not weird, empathy comes in many forms. you can be concerned about the dogs, that's normal as long as you acknowledge the wrongful death of the mother too.
Also, I COMPLETELY, agree about the journal. That it was written by a child who read one book on psychosis. And also, most people with any mental disorders, DON'T SAY THAT THEY'RE CRAZY OR SCHIZOPHRENIC OR BIPOLAR. And YES; again, most people with psychological disorders, are usually suicidal.
That school girl look she had for the court was really creepy.
A big incident happened in Turkey yesterday, a 19-year-old boy killed 2 19-year-old girls in the same day, and he killed one of them on the street and then committed suicide in front of everyone.
The girls' names are Ikbal and Ayşenur, the boy's name is Semih. This boy is obsessed with Ikbal and follows her everywhere, she's not his girlfriend but they're classmate's, Ayşenur is this boy's girlfriend, this boy follows Ikbal and even makes plans to kill her, 1 year ago. He's making a video to ikbal saying he's gonna k*ll himself and she doesn't have to worry or scared anymore, This girl's family is suing the guy several times This boy draws pictures before killing girls, he works at a butcher shop, if you search you can find more please make a video about it, please.
Skipping grades is a sledgehammer to your social adaptation at school. I went through it 3 times and developed substance issues while aged 13 in Year 11, ending in almost a year in a psych ward. I think I can speak to this a little, and imo she's definitely got screws loose, but was totally aware of what she was doing. Thinking Mum found her vapes or something, and an argument spiralled out of control.
The weed may have accelerated it.
can't you tell them that maybe you don't want to skip grades?
@@Geraldinealternizexoxo I was first moved from grade 1 to grade 2 midyear mainly because my reading level was way up, so it wasn't much of a change given grade 1&2 were a group lot (I didn't really understand, and was bribed with the offer of moving to a class with gym that day lol). When it happens some years later, generally the first thought is that you'll get school over a year quicker - which has a great deal of appeal at that age. One doesn't really understand the consequences until the new arrangement is well in effect. It's something raised between school and parents ofc - and can come down to going against parent's wishes, potentially. But yes, one can petition to have the usual grade progression, subject to any parental expectations or the like.
@@alistairogilvy7696 O thank you for taking the time to explain
@@Geraldinealternizexoxo yvw 😁 the year levels can be very 'clannish', I suppose. One is put in with a group that have, until now, considered you an inferior, while former peers no longer feel they are.. Being caught between groups is a strain on developing social skills - I've heard that the issue is handled differently now than it was when I was at school - I hope it is, anyway..
Okay, but no one really explained why she did it. Even if she was upset that her mother found out she smokes weed, what she did is something only someone mentally unwell would do. If she’s just 'evil,' it still doesn't make sense for someone who's supposedly top of their class to think that way. There's something deeper going on here.
Her dad was abusive since she was a baby, her mom escaped with her in the night, she went through a mental break and doesn't even remember it. She needs treatment not jail
@@blueguitaristno, she absolutely needs to be jailed 😀👍🏻
She's aware of what she did , she's calculated and know what she's doing now.
hey Stephanie can you please cover the recent case happening in turkey the murderer threw victims(two young girls in their 19s)body parts from the building and this literally happened in broad daylight in the busiest city so as turkish women we don't feel safe and protesting right now so it would be great if you cover this case for us
Over a vape..rules for selling vapes/cigarettes to minors need to get stricter ASAP.
And they need to stop advertising them to kids
They claim they don’t but what adult is begging for unicorn dust flavoured vapes
I agree but I also dont think the two are correlated. I smoked plenty in my teenage years and got caught for it several times… never made me want to kill my mom.
@@bunny2867exactly.
y'all acting like she didn't get this from a plug
@@themischief420your point, exactly?
She only seems upset when she's given no option other than accountability for her actions. She doesn't seem to feel guilty for her mother's fate. So sad 😞
The mom’s last noises are so unsettling. It sounds like she’s crying and trying to breathe….i couldn’t imagine , as a mother of a girl. Knowing your daughter just shot you….she must’ve been so upset and scared. 😟
I thought she was singing to calm herself 😢I'd like to think of it that way❤😢
@@digimonalvatrax2738 that's actually carly singing. in the full clip her m faintly says 'help me' and the singing we hear is carly singing 'nooo' to helping her mom
Hi Stephanie, please be our voice. They put a media ban in Turkiye for this case. Two 19 year old women were killed by another 19 year old boy who unalived himself after. He threw the body parts of the victims across the streets. The details are very graphic. Please cover this case and be the voice of us.