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The Thousand Sons were the XV Legion of the original twenty Space Marine Legions. Their Primarch is Magnus, oft called Magnus the Red. The Legion turned traitor during the Horus Heresy, after which it relocated to Sortiarius, the Planet of Sorcerers, in the Eye of Terror, and dedicated itself to the Chaos God of change, sorcery and magic, Tzeentch. For a time it appeared that Tzeentch protected the Thousand Sons from the corruption and fragmentation that most of the other Traitor Legions underwent, but eventually the Legion went through a crisis of mutation and de-evolution, seemingly at the wish of their patron-God. Aghast at this development, their chief sorcerer, Ahriman, cast a powerful spell designed to render the Thousand Sons immune to the warping effects of Chaos. While the spell succeeded in this goal, it had an unforseen consequence of transforming the mutated Thousand Sons into little more than mystically animated suits of armour barely capable of being termed as anything more sentient than automata.
With the only surviving cognisant members being those incredibly strong in heretical psychic powers, the Thousand Sons are now a legion of ghosts led by the damned. - บันเทิง
Remember when DK did a unintended pun showing his minis "here's my thousand sons army, but they're just colecting dust at the moment" without KNOWING NOTHING about them?? they are the perfect army for the DK as Tzeentch planned indeed.
yes. it was glorious. GLORIOUS!!!!!!! 😫
Which episode was that from?
@@LAV-IIIit’s one of like the first 10-15 things on the channel. Not a super long video but definitely worth a watch
Tzeench: “I play the long game”
@@TheTsugnawmi2010
Khorne: "How long?"
Tzeench: “I don't remember"
Yvraine did resurrect those marines, but after Ahriman agreed to let her leave, she sent them screaming into the warp. Ahriman, shocked, horrified, and pissed instead of trying to kill the eldar he jumped into the warp after his brother.
Yeah, she fucked up
It was the right call. Ahriman got distracted and yvraine got the warshard
@Asheriancommand but now she is a priority target for ahriman, not only do to vengeance, but also as a resource to reverse the rubric
@@Asheriancommandyvraine: "ah yes, let me piss off the angry physical space monkey capable of doing the same magic shit that I can, what's the worst that could possible happen?"
*meanwhile ariman is prepping his ovary spinning destro torsion spell. For when her finds her*
Knowing Ahriman he'd probably spend a trilogy of books trying to get back at her and achieving nothing
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, Magnus's efforts all went bust.
Ambatubus...
Thousands son: father I don't feel so good
😭
Reduced 2 dust.
I can see that happening in 40k honestly
@@hugotheimpecileonepretty sure that literally did happen considering they can communicate with him telepathically while they were dusting...
Rubric Marine: I fear no man but that thing.
Roomba: *Vacuum Noises*
Rubric Maribe: It scares me.
The big suck 😂
The mechanical prowess to destroy us is pure horror.
These jokes always make me think, their armors are fully sealed and their soul is bound to their armor, so the ash isn't even coming out right? They're basically walking urns.
At least the Space Puppies and Thousands Sons can agree that Roombas are scary.
Poster idea: where's waldo but you have to find alpharius in a collection of various other space marines and primarchs
And make it a collab with Emwattnot
I'd buy that for a dollar!
there is no alpharius (this is a lie)
There once was a Thousand Sons character that ran around with a rocket launcher and when asked why he wasn’t spreading the word of Tzeentch and just instead blowing stuff up he replied
“I am spreading the ways of The Lord of Change! Watch this!” He then aimed his rocket launcher at a tank he saw and fired the rocket. The rocket proceeded to blow up the tank, he then turned back and said “See, I have CHANGED that tank into a destroyed tank!” He then ran back into the fog of war continuing to spread the word of Tzeentch.
I wonder if this can be retold as a limerick.
Like:
There once was a fighter for Change
Who was often seen acting quite strange.
He shot tanks with his missiles
But if asked why, he bristles,
"I'm doing my best to _______"
I can't figure out the last bit.
@@thou_dog"Rearrange"?
@@WootFTWable I changed it up.
We've heard of a cult-bro of Change
who's often seen acting quite strange.
He shoots tanks with his missiles
and if questioned he bristles,
"I'm increasing disorder downrange!"
Lmao this reminds me, a youtuber I like who does ARMA campaigns did one as chaos cultists, and he was in the tzeenchian squad
In the spirit of change every 2 minutes they changed the frequency on the radio
Thousand sons: goes from fleshchange to ashchange
Ahriman: I see this as an absolute win
Either live your entire existence drowning in pure nothingness and slowly forgetting who you are or continue living in a twisted and mangled flashy body that will beg for death that will never come.🐱
Ahriman, First Captain of the Thousand Sons and Champion of Tzeentch
vs
Thanquol, the greatest Grey Seer to ever live and Champion of the Horned Rat
Who shoots themselves in the foot first?
Thanquol would just shoot another of his subordinates even if he is in the wrong
Yes
Ahriman would shoot himself in the foot while Thanquol shoots his most important ratslave that would win him the battle in the back of the head.
“There are many ways to skin a baby”-Thanquol
Depend, is Gotrek and Felix around?
Next Poster: "Ascend me, Chaos Daddy!"
Space Wolves visiting Sortiarius while singing "Hungry Like the Wolf"
Meanwhile Thousand Sons preparing their spells while sining "Dust in the Wind"
Another one bites the dust
Inside you are two wolves. One sings yggdrasil as it goes into battle. The other sings bark at the moon
@@greg_mca"they're both gay.."
Lmao space wolves singing Duran Duran is funny, imagine a space wolf with bronzed skin and frosted tips
@@zackmishlove8266 If I didn't hate unhelmeted Marines, I would be all over that
Can we get an episode on the council of nicaea? It feels like the core reason people sympathize with Magnus and also really highlights how flawed the Emperor's plans were (particularly in terms of not telling his kids about Chaos, especially Magnus).
Pretty sure they already did a few years ago now.
@@justinlast2lastharder749 Apparently not, unless it's something that's Patreon specific.
@@justinlast2lastharder749 They haven't done an actual episode on it. Only mention it in passing. I don't think they have ever mentioned how hypocritical Leman Russ was when he tried saying that space wolf rune priests are not psyckers and therefore would not be outlawed by the council's decision. That coupled with him hiding the Wulfen while condeming Thousand Sons for the flesh change proves how much of a PoS Russ was.
@@CannibalShinobi Meh. He was written VERY inconsistently in the Heresy books. This is the biggest problem I have when people rag on Russ. They point to the times he had crap writers, love to ignore the times he had more consistent writing. He is not the only Primarch that suffers from this. Perturabo does as well, as he flip flops from petulant man child incapable of thinking beyond "I wanna!" to a rational thinker capable of coming up with a cunning plan so often you will get whiplash. This is made even more pointed by the fact the writers for the modern setting have continued this idiocy by having him become a daemon primarch (going by released artwork) when the lore states he HATES Chaos, hates the chaos gods, and would never accept becoming one of their pawns. It is the whole reason his own men cut off their body parts if they start to change...and also why they capture demons and use them as fuel for their weapons!
Basically every Primarch has some really crap writing minus a far few as GW basically warned them about things...Which is why Sanguinious is depicteds so consistently through all the Heresy books compared to Russ, Perterabo, Vulcan (yeah he has some uncharacteristic moments too), Lion'el, Dorn to name a few of those with such inconsistent writing that it often feels like you are reading about someone totally different with the same name. It happened less with Vulcan and Dorn on that list, yet STILL HAPPENED...and more than once. Russ and Perterabo are the two that stand out as being exceptionally inconsistently written.
The Rubric is the equivalent of using a fusion cannon to treat skin cancer. "BANG, and the Fleshchange is gone!" *ignoring the giant smoking crater*.
The rubric is an overcharge of warp energy, if you weren't psychically strong enough to keep your corporeal meat together you turn to dust. If you are, you get a big buff.
I belive Ahriman went to Magnus before the rubic and begged him to help with the flesh change. And Magnus basically laughed and told him to just deal.
Also worth noting Ahriman hates the chaos gods, and for what they have lead the legion towards, he also has a habit of leaving planets with less cultists than when he got there. He will gather a cult to find relics and knowledge, steal it from the cult, then kill the cult
Also yall got to read the Arhiman omnibus
In a small tangent, I'm waiting for the moment the Planet Eaters will get their vengeance against the Emperor's Children for turning Angron in a demon prince and denying him his death & rest in peace.
And I pretty hope Leeman Russ return with a way to restore full Magnus and Prospero, to atone for his transgression against the orders of the Emperor.
@@painlord2k wait, the word bearers right?
@@ravenwhiteduck3158 I think he mean the World Eaters (Angron's legion)
@@painlord2k Russ HAS to be the last one to return. There is a whole prophecy there and other primarchs that got so little time that should come back first Corvax and Khan come to mind. Vulcan returning and the writers NOT killing him off just to show he is a perpetual would be nice as well. Vulcan is supposed to be the most physically strong and tough of them all. What would kill any other patriarch, Vulcan should be able to stand right back up and laugh. To kill Vulcan and put him back on respawn should be twice what it would take to kill any other primarch. I despised how often they killed him just to highlight that he is a perpetual, was horrible writing.
The reason Russ has to be the last is due to the prophecy that when he returns the start of 'The Wolftime' will have come. Which is Ragnarok.
Thanks for the feature, I'm glad to have done my part in making 40k more ridiculous.
I stole the line from a 40k parody comic I saw in pinterest years ago. Much as I'd like to credit the artist, for the life of me I can't find it anymore.
Some people said it was from isyander and koda, but I don't know the context for that.
Nothing wrong with stealing a joke, that's how jokes work. Gratz for the feature.
Unlike magnus you did everything correct
Now that all the Primarchs and legions are done, y’all gotta do Chapter Masters and successor chapters
They still go to go back and do a legion episode for Ultramarines and Deathguard. Since those are the remaining two from before they did separate primarch-legion episodes. Night Lords and Alpha Legion already got this treatment
@@thewerdna they did death guard already. But yeah they’re missing Ultramarines
The also need to do a video on the blood angels main characters
Tzeench: "Let's make them all goats."
Tzeench is responsible for the Thousand Sons Combat Patrol confirmed
You didn't mention what a rubric actually is; a guide for grading whether something is good enough. Are you a good enough space wizard? Yes; have a stat boost, no; dust.
You don’t need to apologize about the derailment, I thought that it was funny, I appreciate it being on my favorite primarchs video too.
Ah, at last! The Spess Mehrehn set is complete! Good show, AdRic hosts!
Ahriman did get to the Black Library but he lost his Library Card and so he was denied entry
7.8/10, needs more Kitten
Me Mum Everest!!!
@@JunkPhuJP "Forget this ever happened, please and thank you."
@@JunkPhuJP I WAS IN A TUBE!!!
"Im at the Pyramid of Photep, shirtless, in a loincloth smoking on Astronomicon-filtered Sherm"
-Magnus Flow
This flesh change curse don’t mean nothing to me man
The Cabalistic link will turn the runic etching into a warp storm. Leman Russ shivered his timbers.
We smokin' that Slaanesh Afterbirth Eye of Terror. I can't wait to Prospero roast you in these gold-plated Crimson King shoes.
That rubric done left lil cuzzo ass dust. Jit was emaciated
Cawl’d so hard they thought I was a fuckin heretek
I thought gw set up a really cool way for Ahriman to become a weird bedfellow with the imperium and the elder due to yvraine bringing back some thousand sons. Making Ahriman go “well everything I’ve tried has failed might as well” but instead they just changed him from hunting the black library to hunting elder. Big sad
Well it may have worked like that, then yvraine fucked it all up by the re-killing ahriman's brothers
Yep raiding comorrah for something, I'm hoping it's one of the swords that yvraine is looking for
It was the PERFECT set-up to have Ahriman team up with Yvraine to raid Slaanesh's palace for the last sword. Just think of it, Tzeentch would totally be down to knock Slaanesh down a peg if not outright kill it, further they could've brought Guilliman into the fray as well. A Tzeentchian Wizard, a full crew of revitalized Rubrics, an Elder contingent of death worshippers, and the Primarch of the Ultramarines storming the pleasure palace and curbing Fulgrim...
It would've been glorious, easy way to kick Slaanesh and Fulgrim to the curb like what Big E did to Mortarion in the Garden.
I'll grab you a tiny bit of bonus lore from the warp for this one:
Ahriman's investment into the flesh-change cure was significantly personal for him, as while he was one of the first Thousand son recruits, so was his brother Ohrmuzd. If you're curious as to why some of you may not of heard of Ohrmuzd it's because he was a victim of said flesh change, which instilled a fear of it into ol Ahriman of the change and motivated him to find its cure
also not 100% on this one- but I beleive he did ask Magnus for his help casting the rubric to make it work, but Magnus said no
There is a full trilogy of Ahriman's novels by author John French, who is currently working on a second trilogy for the wily sorcerer (its first entry is already out). They're great reads into what makes Ahriman tick.
Tzaangors DO provide cabal points so long as they control an objective, (and you roll a 4+) so they have their uses and the tzaangor shaman does some good things to buff those units alongside adding an extra cabal point.
If only the AdMech had found a STC for a heavy duty vacuum cleaner, it would make fighting against the Thousand Sons much easier.
They have the powerwashers of doom rubrics watch out
can't wait for the episode dk and his 1k sons play against bricky and his SoB
I usually listen to these as background noise during gaming, but my PC crashed couple days back, first time listening to this podcast sad...
Nothing is worse than when your PC dies on you, leaving you empty and gameless. =( I've been there. F.
I kinda like to imagine that they use a device that allows them to contain the souls of their fallen and bind their souls to any strong psyker’s to bring them back from death and giving them a moment to saver what it’s like to have a body before it turns to dust.🤔🐱
THOUSAND SONS DUST BOIS LETS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No flesh, no flesh change. Simples big win
For DK - Magnus is an auto-include in every competitive Tsons list. He is arguably the most important unit in the entire army.
The new poster: "A female custodes and her stepsister of silence"
Stepbrother of silence
54:41 Unending MENTAL suffering is very much a Tzeentch thing. Just think of the classic case of any would-be sorcerer stuck for an eternity in a labyrinthine library searching for the one book containing the knowledge they seek, as an example of a very Tzeentch branded type of torture. The important thing to remember about the Chaos Gods is that there's actually a lot of overlap between them; just because suffering broadly is a Slaanesh thing, and to an extent a Nurgle thing, doesn't mean the others don't also indulge in inflicting unspeakable suffering upon mortals.
So TL;DR: Chaos intersectionality is a thing.
Another way to put it is that they all love to fuck with mortals, but each one does it in its own special way. Nurgle wants people to despair and succumb to decay, Khorne wants them to become furious beasts, Slaneesh wants souless husks always looking for the next spark of feeling and Tseench to lose themselves in their search of knowledge and power, and also random shenanigans
Finally. After years of waiting it's finally time :D
Im glad you guys dusted off this lore.
Its been one of those things i need to dust up on, but ive always been afraid to ash questions about it.
Between you two I wouldn’t be surprised if Shy had a drinking problem.
It's not a drinking problem, it's a drinking solution
I'm hoping the Blood ravens are from thousand Sons, having modified geneseed, but what do you guys think?
Thousand sons, Blood Angels either or my favorite legions get recognition
I hope that it was true. It make so much sense.
yes
Thousand sons is most definitely my headcanon, It all fits to well!
Theres also an argument to be made for word bearers but personally i hope its k sons
33:22 - I know to expect shenanigans when I listen to AdRid. I was not expecting "Eldar taco" today, or ever. XD
T sons are the classic example of "Ican fix this!" and immediatly make it worse
10:30 Rubric
"YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BADGES TO TRAIN ME"
"I cured the Flesh Change"
My brother in tzeentch, there is no more flesh to change.
I am not crazy, guys! A 40k cuisine episode would be absolutely fabulous!
Rubric of Ahriman:
Can't have the fleshchange if there's no flesh to change
I find it funny how they did a thousand sons episode and they didn't invite the poorhammer guy
I think it’s confirmed that DK has selective memory
I was in the middle of lifting a big weight when briky said testicular twist of fate. Almost died
cult of change favorite spell "spare some change"
No pain, no gain!
No fish, no fowl!
No socks, no shoes!
No flesh, no fleshchange!
Even Beastmen players don't want zangores
Lego WH40k game idea: You play as K sons and when they die they spill and magnus comes sad and crying, casts reparo and swoosh they are up again.
A Thousand Sons?
Imagine all the child support benefits Magnus gets!
The "eldar taco" fucking killed me jajajaja
"Ascend me, Chaos Daddy!" is pure poetry. I am in awe.
Just wanted to say thank you. Been collecting and painting thousand sons for 3 years now. Enjoyed the episode while painting magnus, thank you so much for doing my legion justice lol
DK wanting a quote from Bricky is like Oliver Twist asking for more gruel.
Time for another podcast with Shy, DK,
and the simp.
I love how GW came up with one of the most diabolical and horrific descriptions of unbridled torment and anguish just so they dont have to make a new dreadnought model.
“Ascend me chaos daddy!” I will live by this quote for the rest of my life thanks DK.
13 is the number of the Greater God of Chaos
Malice? Or perhaps Malal?
I feel like it's the horned rat I'm trying to remember from gotrek and felix books
@Ivy-xc4iv yes-yes! You get it!
I’m a fan of the Raptors space marine chapter, and while I don’t think they have enough to deserve their own episode, I’d like to see an episode for the niches of multiple secondary chapters.
One interesting thing about the whole "tricking other psykers into becoming helbrute batteries" thing is...if the prospective victim figures it out and manages to turn the tables on the sorcerer, they are generally accepted by the other thousand sons as one of their own. Doesn't happen often but IIRC there's at least one character in one of the novels who got into a 1ksons warband that way.
Alphonse Elric's favorite army.
Ahrimans spell was like covering up a traumatic amputation of a limb with some neosporin and a bandaid.
That vortex beast is in total warhammer 3. Its amazing.
Pro tip for any ksons players wanting an MVB rn: tyranid psychophages from the box sets are like $20 on ebay rn (dont ever buy the standalone kit i stg) and on the same base size, give it a bit of greenstuff elbow grease and some sort of grafted portal effect: they look perfectly fine as MVB's and it kinda works with the lore, psychophages exist to eat pyskers (the weird blue smoke that comes from them are like burned psyker energy essentially) and so its not a huge stretch to think one could be turned into a vessel for a beast of this sort
I can't think of anything more Tzeentchy than taking an absolute force of nature that exists to consume biomass and mutating its own biomass against itself
Won't work in official tournaments, probably, but about as good a justification for a proxy as I've ever been able to come up with
I’m gonna be putting in a vote for the Crimson Fists! 💪
All is dussy!
it was rare that any episodes end like this one pretty calm no mistery or misery...😂
I need the that “Ascend me, Chaos Daddy” merch, NOW
Very happy I could make the premiere
tzneetch: oh you don't want them to change? okay then
*dusts your marines*
Ksons showing the negative effects of being permanently bricked up.
Even dead ksons from centues ago rose up, there armour repaired filed with dust
You don't have to worry about the Flesh Change if you don't have flesh
A new Adric episode best birthday present ever
Excited for Ahriman Grandé
Major Payne: "You want me to show you a little trick to take your mind off that pain"? "Gimme your hand". * Breaks finger* Injured Soldier: "AAAGGGHHH MY FINGER MY FINGER" Major Payne: "Works every time".
Cheers guys, inspired me to finally get my combat patrol together. Putting together the Infernal Master right now in fact
Waited for years for the magnus/k sons episode and the entire first part is about custodes. Really killing me here guys❤🎉
Thousand Sons are, hands down, the saddest dust bunnies in the universe.
Building a TS army. My first ever army, and gluing those tzaangors feels just nice. Thank you for the episode
Next episode: Severan Dominate
Thousand sons rubric marines: Gone reduced to atoms…
Blood Raven's past time is GAFTING
"Ascend my chaos daddy" -Nemeroth, Graia circa M40
You don't have to be sorry, Bricky. Identity politics are much like the flesh change: agonizing, carcinogenic, and very difficult to stop. If you hadn't faced it head on, it would have only gotten worse. But as it stands, this petty debate will dry up as people move on.
So anyway, how 'bout them Tzaangors?
I guess in a sense, Ahriman crossed the Rubicon. "Alea iacta est" = “the die is cast.”
Happy that the excerpt from All Is Dust was well received. I have to give a huge recommendation to the Ahriman Omnibus. I recently finished Ahriman: Exile, and it has a lot more literary merit than the average Black Library release. The whole story has a real sense of tragedy and dark atmosphere that really make the universe seem alive, expansive, and sympathetic to the plight of the Thousand Sons.
iirc, the main reason for Ahriman's change of mind is due to his realization that... well, his friends, brothers even, they are... not there anymore. The soul-stuff might be sealed within, but the suffering of it, the slow errosion of the person that was.... it horrorfied him.
Had it just been the sealed-within soul in the armor which was a near-immortality as could be possible, but without the will to freely think, do, experience, etc... He all but killed 95% of his fellow brothers and it was that realization and the guilt of it - especially when he has to put his will onto command some... he can feel the enmity and pain that his dusted brothers are constantly feeling (or the remnants of what they felt at the time of the rubric).
Ahriman: *exists*
Tzeentch: my favorite clown. Little walking punchline. Love him. Absolutely best. 0/10, I want a thousand more.
I definitely hear testicular test of fate
Cant wait for them to get into the nitty-gritty of Rubric
You think Thousand Sons react like cats when they see a vacuum cleaner?
If that Vox News bit from the Magnus episode can be its own video, that would be great, as I can see Shy hit Bricky with a wooden chair as many times as I want, without having to watch the rest of the video over and over again! ^-^
For every chaos legion all of the primarchs are not the greatest warriors of the gods. It is always their second in command or someone close to it.
45:15 I was really hoping dk would say “cult of personality” in the tune of the song lol