Hey inkeeping with the theme of your how to play piano for producers which I derived a ton of value you from so thanks for that. As a guitarist who makes music there is a different approach that has worked for me has been to spend most of my practice time on 3 things - Writting full songs with lyrics on the guitar with out even touching the daw. This really forces you to figure out how the guitar part should work with the theme and intention of the song and helps you become a lot more intentional about your voicing of chords because you only have a guitar. I also found it helpful to learn how to play and sing the full song at a level where you could just record your performance and have it be good enough to stand alone (again before you touch the daw), this also just helps me with general writting and arrangement because I get to know a song intimately before I start the production process. I think you'll find you end up adding cool riffs and ideas to the song because of the restriction that you only have guitar to work with. - Just like the piano tip learning to play songs by ear. Importantly you are trying to figure out the exact voicing used in the song you've chosen. This vastly improved my facilities as a guitar player and writer. It helped as a writer because in trying to figure out the work of the greats like David Gilmour you'll unconsciously begin to understand what they were thinking when they wrote it and why they made the choices they did. Rather than just getting that info you have to figure it out which makes it stick way more making it easier to apply in your own work. It made me better at guitar because god damn are they good at guitar and that shit is hard to play. It's really hard to do at first but gets easier I used to do this every day before I started working on my music and it really gets you inspired to create. first time took 2 hours now it takes me 10-15 minutes - learn one new scale, chord shape, finger picking pattern, chord progression, technique, etc every day and then try to incorporate it into the song you work on later that day obviously some techniques take longer to learn so just pick a drill for those and practice it for 5 minutes with a metronome every couple days. but the key to this tip for me was to try to apply that chord change or pattern or technique or whatever into your music. regardless of if it works you get a feel for how certain things work with certain genres styles etc. this is not the roadmap to become the best guitarist and I am by no means an expert but I am a 22 year singer songwritter producer guitarist in a bedroom and i've found these to be the most affective things to practice for learning guitar as a producer/artist not guitar player. Also if you got to the end of this just something kinda weird, I have the same guitar as you I also have been playing violin since I was a kid I also use ableton, I also sing write produce mix and master all of my own stuff just in Canada not australia. I came across your piano video a couple weeks back and since have watched a fair bit of your videos. I have found it very inspiring to see someone else in a similar position to myself dealing with a lot of the same struggles. So thanks for documenting your journey up to this point. Making music alone can feel quite isolating at times and it gives a me a sense of community that is really cool.
this feels like difficult answer that's exactly what I need, thanks so much for typing this out - also australia and canada are kinda the same place but not i reckon, so that's pretty strange man !
@@camus.mp3 just an idea I would get do a feeler and see if anyone else would be interested in this but it'd be cool if you did a video where you gave feedback on some of the communities music. At least that's something I'd like to see can't speak for anyone else and not sure if it is a video you'd be interested in which is most important.
Guitar player here! My tip for writing riffs is to choose a small selection of notes, 2 or 3, 4 max, and find a rhythm in those notes first. Don’t move on until you’ve got a groove with those notes dialled. Then find/add 1 more note at a time (whilst keeping the same rhythm) until happy. A riff with too many notes is a melody, a melody with too many notes is a solo. Keep it simple 👍
The frustration in the beginning is so relatable. Especially when creating an album. There's just something really frustrating about an album versus making a single. It seems easy more stressful for some reason.
Hi! Regarding your guitar knowledge, I'd probably advise you to learn songs/riffs you like and understand how the relate to scales and intervals. Also, try to play them in different positions and slowly start improvising around. It always helps to know the intervals you are playing and not just stick to shapes. The fact that you know your pentatonic shapes doesn't necessarily mean you have complete knowledge of the scale. I would also learn arpeggios; first triads and then 7th chord arpeggios!
i love watching your videos. Something I think that might help u and give you some direction is trying to connect with the message u want to share. The things that you want to say or how u feel may be an icebreaker that can lead the path of a song. I tell u this as a thing that happens a lot to me. Everybody is different and inspiration has each own way of working within ourselves; maybe the instrument can help you to get there, sometimes a phrase or an emotion. Keep up, u doing great!
Really excited for this album dude. Going to be really cool to have a community of people who have been through the process of creating it with you. Excited to see how much people will resonate with your music.
Really enjoying your videos. Definitely can relate to feeling overwhelmed in production - having/creating the right sounds/ guitar playing ability and more. Keep it going! and excited to hear more from your newsletter
im in the exact same position with the guitar. ive noticed that on piano, as i learn more songs (and break them down) i make more songs, so i just applied that to guitar.
Sweet video! Guitar player here, but with no theoretical knowledge. I'd say try to come up with a chord progression based on a simple melody, single notes first. Then add a second melody layer over it, maybe on separate recording. Come up with the melody on vocal or piano, somewhere comfortable. Hyperfocus on the melody and just let it do its thing. Dont think too much about chorus/verse/bridge or whatever. Melodies dont have to be long or complex, they just need to be interesting. The Melody for a song is the sum of its parts, like how we all can hum Star Wars tunes, even if the real thing is a whole orchestra with different melodies. Reverse Engineer your melody into the song. From a simple melody you can build awesome stuff :) Another thing that I personally can find hard when it comes to writing music, is to add energy to it. I make music on an acoustic guitar and taking the step from something cozy (which is ok, but after like 6 songs?! time to crank the gain!) to a banger, might require some references. An artist that inspiries me a lot when it comes to bridging that gap between the bedroom sound and the full experience is the band The Japanese House, especially the album "In The End It Always Does". Great stuff! And as you are an Aussie (right?), you always have the melodic marvel that is Silverchair, all kinds of emotions and amazing sounds and ideas :) Great stuff! Thanks for letting us in!
There is no wrong notes you try to experiment until something sounds good (I clarify that it's obviously much better if you understand what you're playing knowing all the notes but it takes a live to learn)
Music degree guitar student here. Not sure about your prior theory knowledge or your process in learning the piano. But depending on how you learnt, learning guitar is relatively similar in terms of theory. As you already seem to know most common chord shapes, working on chord extensions and familiarising yourself with the intervals that build them and where to find them would be a great start. Working on related scales in conjunction with learning songs you like is another great tool. Every aspect of guitar revolves around technique though. So figuring out how to make chords sound clear and how you want them to through TH-cam, footage of your favourite guitarists, or just playing around would also help extremely in conjunction with the other points. Don’t know if this helps as it’s 1 am in Aus and I’m dead from work but I hope it does. Btw your videos are inspiring as hell as I’m in a very similar position to you creatively and didn’t know how to get out of a musical slump. But your videos have helped me so much bro so keen to hear the album. Also check out Mk.gee, and Dijon if you haven’t before. I think you might like them
I love how Unconfident you are about the music making process not a lot of people show that To me that’s where the best creativity comes from it’s the questioning that makes better ideas .. to me I guess
great insight into your process (as per usual) i'm curious, what model roland keyboard is that?? i've been exploring a few options and i've seen it's versatility in these vids. cheers :)
Omg man, I thought you were some piano and guitar virtuoso before becoming a producer. It's so inspiring to hear you learnt that stuff for your album! I'd love to hear how you learned those instruments and how we could do the same. Cheers from Argentina mate 👋🇦🇷
As a guitarist, I would suggest that you start listening to really difficult guitar focused songs. Metallica used to be my absolute favourite band and their songs got my skills to a much higher level than other guitarists who had been plaaying longer, but weren't so interested in that type of stuff. However, I don't think learning Metallica would be very useful for you, as the main reason that that band helped progress was that I loved the music I was playing. The tricky part is finding a sound that's difficult, but you really want to be able to do. I think the band Polyphia is very lofi sounding (more in line with your interests) and extremely technical, so I think checking their stuff out might be helpful and inspiring. Even if you don't check Polyphia out, I still think your content is very inspiring and entertaining. Keep up the good work!
That's actually a great point - when I play stuff that I like that's not really focused on guitar it ends up being pretty easy and I don't learn much - I reckon someone like tom misch could be my metallica here, thanks dude!
dont call me a nerd for pausing sob,,multi modal tonality and borrowed chords are so fucking nice esp jumping around and using that flat7 chords feel great
@camus ive been having this issue where my fp-10 keyboard is plugged into ableton by midi and randomly disconnects. did you ever have this issue or have any ideas how to solve it?
normaly for albums I only listen to the first single and no teasers or anything to keep the album as fresh as possible till the release but it might be kinda hard for this one
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Hey inkeeping with the theme of your how to play piano for producers which I derived a ton of value you from so thanks for that. As a guitarist who makes music there is a different approach that has worked for me has been to spend most of my practice time on 3 things
- Writting full songs with lyrics on the guitar with out even touching the daw.
This really forces you to figure out how the guitar part should work with the theme and intention of the song and helps you become a lot more intentional about your voicing of chords because you only have a guitar. I also found it helpful to learn how to play and sing the full song at a level where you could just record your performance and have it be good enough to stand alone (again before you touch the daw), this also just helps me with general writting and arrangement because I get to know a song intimately before I start the production process. I think you'll find you end up adding cool riffs and ideas to the song because of the restriction that you only have guitar to work with.
- Just like the piano tip learning to play songs by ear.
Importantly you are trying to figure out the exact voicing used in the song you've chosen. This vastly improved my facilities as a guitar player and writer. It helped as a writer because in trying to figure out the work of the greats like David Gilmour you'll unconsciously begin to understand what they were thinking when they wrote it and why they made the choices they did. Rather than just getting that info you have to figure it out which makes it stick way more making it easier to apply in your own work. It made me better at guitar because god damn are they good at guitar and that shit is hard to play. It's really hard to do at first but gets easier I used to do this every day before I started working on my music and it really gets you inspired to create. first time took 2 hours now it takes me 10-15 minutes
- learn one new scale, chord shape, finger picking pattern, chord progression, technique, etc every day and then try to incorporate it into the song you work on later that day
obviously some techniques take longer to learn so just pick a drill for those and practice it for 5 minutes with a metronome every couple days. but the key to this tip for me was to try to apply that chord change or pattern or technique or whatever into your music. regardless of if it works you get a feel for how certain things work with certain genres styles etc.
this is not the roadmap to become the best guitarist and I am by no means an expert but I am a 22 year singer songwritter producer guitarist in a bedroom and i've found these to be the most affective things to practice for learning guitar as a producer/artist not guitar player.
Also if you got to the end of this just something kinda weird, I have the same guitar as you I also have been playing violin since I was a kid I also use ableton, I also sing write produce mix and master all of my own stuff just in Canada not australia. I came across your piano video a couple weeks back and since have watched a fair bit of your videos. I have found it very inspiring to see someone else in a similar position to myself dealing with a lot of the same struggles. So thanks for documenting your journey up to this point. Making music alone can feel quite isolating at times and it gives a me a sense of community that is really cool.
pinning this for myself
this feels like difficult answer that's exactly what I need, thanks so much for typing this out - also australia and canada are kinda the same place but not i reckon, so that's pretty strange man !
@@camus.mp3 just an idea I would get do a feeler and see if anyone else would be interested in this but it'd be cool if you did a video where you gave feedback on some of the communities music. At least that's something I'd like to see can't speak for anyone else and not sure if it is a video you'd be interested in which is most important.
Guitar player here! My tip for writing riffs is to choose a small selection of notes, 2 or 3, 4 max, and find a rhythm in those notes first. Don’t move on until you’ve got a groove with those notes dialled. Then find/add 1 more note at a time (whilst keeping the same rhythm) until happy. A riff with too many notes is a melody, a melody with too many notes is a solo. Keep it simple 👍
This is cracker advice man, might have to try it out
The frustration in the beginning is so relatable. Especially when creating an album. There's just something really frustrating about an album versus making a single. It seems easy more stressful for some reason.
kinda seems more grand
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2:59 bro started talking in dog language for the doggo's sake
Hi! Regarding your guitar knowledge, I'd probably advise you to learn songs/riffs you like and understand how the relate to scales and intervals. Also, try to play them in different positions and slowly start improvising around. It always helps to know the intervals you are playing and not just stick to shapes. The fact that you know your pentatonic shapes doesn't necessarily mean you have complete knowledge of the scale. I would also learn arpeggios; first triads and then 7th chord arpeggios!
This feels very applicable thanks for this
just found this on my recommended. good luck man!! this will be awesome to watch
That reggae song was straight fire. Keep up the good work
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i love watching your videos. Something I think that might help u and give you some direction is trying to connect with the message u want to share. The things that you want to say or how u feel may be an icebreaker that can lead the path of a song. I tell u this as a thing that happens a lot to me. Everybody is different and inspiration has each own way of working within ourselves; maybe the instrument can help you to get there, sometimes a phrase or an emotion. Keep up, u doing great!
Really excited for this album dude. Going to be really cool to have a community of people who have been through the process of creating it with you. Excited to see how much people will resonate with your music.
will be very interesting
I’m learning and getting inspired by watching these episodes! Keep going!!
Underrated Channel
Keep going on man !
Im as well on the path to learning guitar and it's hard, but at the end you'll be proud of you and we will so !
Really enjoying your videos. Definitely can relate to feeling overwhelmed in production - having/creating the right sounds/ guitar playing ability and more. Keep it going! and excited to hear more from your newsletter
ayye glad you’re enjoying my rambles
Good to see you continuing the series! 😊
im in the exact same position with the guitar. ive noticed that on piano, as i learn more songs (and break them down) i make more songs, so i just applied that to guitar.
dude this series is so inspiring its sick
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as an indie artist you gave us isnpiratioon a lott! everyone needs to listen ur music
it's hard out here hahah
oh man i love your videos so much ;)
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The dog came and bro instantly started 🐶🐶🐶
Sweet video! Guitar player here, but with no theoretical knowledge. I'd say try to come up with a chord progression based on a simple melody, single notes first. Then add a second melody layer over it, maybe on separate recording. Come up with the melody on vocal or piano, somewhere comfortable. Hyperfocus on the melody and just let it do its thing. Dont think too much about chorus/verse/bridge or whatever.
Melodies dont have to be long or complex, they just need to be interesting. The Melody for a song is the sum of its parts, like how we all can hum Star Wars tunes, even if the real thing is a whole orchestra with different melodies. Reverse Engineer your melody into the song. From a simple melody you can build awesome stuff :)
Another thing that I personally can find hard when it comes to writing music, is to add energy to it. I make music on an acoustic guitar and taking the step from something cozy (which is ok, but after like 6 songs?! time to crank the gain!) to a banger, might require some references. An artist that inspiries me a lot when it comes to bridging that gap between the bedroom sound and the full experience is the band The Japanese House, especially the album "In The End It Always Does". Great stuff! And as you are an Aussie (right?), you always have the melodic marvel that is Silverchair, all kinds of emotions and amazing sounds and ideas :)
Great stuff! Thanks for letting us in!
layering guitar melodies like that is goated thanks gustav!
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I'm too young to know that song
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You're never too young for the Beatles ❤
There is no wrong notes you try to experiment until something sounds good (I clarify that it's obviously much better if you understand what you're playing knowing all the notes but it takes a live to learn)
Music degree guitar student here. Not sure about your prior theory knowledge or your process in learning the piano. But depending on how you learnt, learning guitar is relatively similar in terms of theory. As you already seem to know most common chord shapes, working on chord extensions and familiarising yourself with the intervals that build them and where to find them would be a great start. Working on related scales in conjunction with learning songs you like is another great tool. Every aspect of guitar revolves around technique though. So figuring out how to make chords sound clear and how you want them to through TH-cam, footage of your favourite guitarists, or just playing around would also help extremely in conjunction with the other points. Don’t know if this helps as it’s 1 am in Aus and I’m dead from work but I hope it does.
Btw your videos are inspiring as hell as I’m in a very similar position to you creatively and didn’t know how to get out of a musical slump. But your videos have helped me so much bro so keen to hear the album.
Also check out Mk.gee, and Dijon if you haven’t before. I think you might like them
This is a terrific reference cheers man, glad you like the vids too :)
bang bang
not sure if this is macca or macca ai
I love how Unconfident you are about the music making process not a lot of people show that
To me that’s where the best creativity comes from it’s the questioning that makes better ideas .. to me I guess
Dude the first idea was so good tho!
so hard when your in the miidleeee
you sir are gonna get far.
yay
great insight into your process (as per usual)
i'm curious, what model roland keyboard is that?? i've been exploring a few options and i've seen it's versatility in these vids. cheers :)
Don't tell this guy about Dom Fike he might explode....
I was just thinking that lmao
would be over lol
havent really done a deep dive tbh
@@camus.mp3 you will only like what you find, he’s really good
Omg man, I thought you were some piano and guitar virtuoso before becoming a producer.
It's so inspiring to hear you learnt that stuff for your album!
I'd love to hear how you learned those instruments and how we could do the same.
Cheers from Argentina mate 👋🇦🇷
that's amazing man :) got a video about piano !
As a guitarist, I would suggest that you start listening to really difficult guitar focused songs. Metallica used to be my absolute favourite band and their songs got my skills to a much higher level than other guitarists who had been plaaying longer, but weren't so interested in that type of stuff. However, I don't think learning Metallica would be very useful for you, as the main reason that that band helped progress was that I loved the music I was playing. The tricky part is finding a sound that's difficult, but you really want to be able to do. I think the band Polyphia is very lofi sounding (more in line with your interests) and extremely technical, so I think checking their stuff out might be helpful and inspiring. Even if you don't check Polyphia out, I still think your content is very inspiring and entertaining. Keep up the good work!
That's actually a great point - when I play stuff that I like that's not really focused on guitar it ends up being pretty easy and I don't learn much - I reckon someone like tom misch could be my metallica here, thanks dude!
Great video ! But is that a Sonarworks reference mic ? 😁
hahaha it's an omnidirectional measurement one - using it cuz my normal condenser broke and this one kinda sounds fire tbh
How did you learn your knowledge of music theory?
i have the same problem with the guitar, i just cant get to the point where i can write some cool melodies and riffs.
dont call me a nerd for pausing sob,,multi modal tonality and borrowed chords are so fucking nice esp jumping around and using that flat7 chords feel great
hahahahaha nerd
fresh ahh
@camus ive been having this issue where my fp-10 keyboard is plugged into ableton by midi and randomly disconnects. did you ever have this issue or have any ideas how to solve it?
Does anyone know mat the thin pole like microphone he's using is called?
hahahah trust me dont get it
@ I got the sE X1 A like your other video said it looks and sounds really good!!
normaly for albums I only listen to the first single and no teasers or anything to keep the album as fresh as possible till the release but it might be kinda hard for this one
just unsub and block me should do the trick
If you like aussie rock check out the band GATC!!!
311 also a good reference
woahh there full empire of the sun mode
they're*********
@@camus.mp3 my favorite from gatc is gilgamesh album :D
What microphone is that?
you dont want it
I paused hehe
nerd
i need that discord man