i love what apollo did to improve so much to this performance line, i wish they’d put the same effort into a portable performance scooter where traffic, road conditions and staircases are judgement factors
@ 16:03 did anybody notice how the screw kept circling and not come up, yeah thats quality assurance of this product right there, hey man all these scooter makers are selling us the same lolly pop with their custom wrapper.
Apollo is so impressive and continues to bring innovation. This is why I bought their Phantom V2 and can't wait to receive the upgrade to V3 which should be shipped to me in a few weeks! 😍
17% faster and 21% heavier... and more than 2X more expensive than the Mantis Pro. (Mantis Pro is $1700 on Aliexpress, the Apollo Ludicrous costs $3500)
That thumb throttle should be standard on any high performance electric scooter. It provides much better control than the trigger throttles. I installed the same thumb throttle on my Ludicrous BBSHD mountain bike build, and I have a much more reactive riding experience on the trails. Cheers.
@@natebice7375 - Are you serious? You just got it and they won't replace a little clamp? I may have to reconsider my purchase. I was going to buy the Pro this weekend because they are running a $200 discount.
NoProGoPronto when I first installed the seat the clamp broke because you have to tighten the living crap out of it.Days of back and forth they said I could pay for a new one and the next day they emailed me and said they would give me a free one but nothing yet. I thought everything would be under warranty especially if bought 2weeks ago. Besides the seat witch I hate because it’s lame,so it’s not a big deal.The scooter is sweet. The rear fender totally SUCKS and the stem locking mechanism is going to need replaced soon because the bolts are bending. If you don’t plan on folding the scooter up to much I wouldn’t worry about that part. Honestly iam disappointed in the customer service. I pray nothing major goes wrong anytime soon.
NoProGoPronto hey bro if you have any questions about the 52v pro just ask. I’ve put on 300 miles so far. O I forgot the front lights suck you definitely would need a aftermarket light. Back red lights are nice and bright.
I think Ill wait until these guys are down to that 999 range, most of the money is tied up in the batteries and soon they'll be far less expensive I hope.
Pretty much is. Looks like the Mantis as well. These are all clone variations of the Dualtron Eagle Pro. Each brand just changes color scheme and maybe suspension here and handlebar there. I wish someone would clone the Rions carbon fiber build.
I just subbed to your channel and this is my first video, and I have to say, you do a GREAT job. I really love the way you do an orderly and detailed review. I'm sure you've probably done it already, so could you possibly share a link to your reviews of some scooters that are geared more for off road type of riding? I have no clue what to really look for and price isn't an issue, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and keep up the great work.
I crashed my EMOVE CRUISER at 25 mph and broke my fema in 2 places!! Thank God I had a full faced helmet on because I slammed my head on the pavement really hard!! So I couldn’t even imagine doing 50 mph standing up on a Scooter!! I’m 53 years old and I thank God these scooters didn’t come out 30 years ago when I was a LUNATIC!! 🤪☠️🤘🏻as always Chuck great video!! By the way I sold my Scooter and I’m waiting on an Ariel Electric bike should have it in a week or two!!!!☮️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Same. I look for Wrong Way for Dualtron Reviews. I'm looking to see which kind of model has the longest range distance while maintaining a relatively good speed
You'll be waiting a while, because this channel only reviews scooters their store sells. This video is probably misleading some people to thinking the "Apollo Ludicrous" is the fastest scooter on earth. It's simply fastest scooter ol' Chuck has made a video for.
Buying a used scooter can be a bit scary, as you can't be sure how well/poorly the previous owner took care of the scooter. Probably your biggest concern would be how well they maintained their battery. Just like purchasing any other vehicle, I'd want to be able to check the scooter out completely and do a test ride before handing over my $$, especially for any scooter over $1000. In ESG Forums, we have a space where riders can buy/sell: forum.electric-scooter.guide/t/buy-and-sell -Trina
I wonder if they will make the regenerative breaking an option on the standard version. I like the fact that there's redundancy in the breaking mechanism. Should one fail or require maintenance the other one will continue to function.
Also one big problem I see with the Ludicrous is having to use your phone with it. I don't know about you guys. But I ride my scooter to get away from my phone and it's distractions. That's just me.
Why do $10 scooters like the Ninebot Max come with regenerative breaking and a headlight in the correct position and thumb throttle as standard? What's with the cheap and nasty generic finger throttle control on most expensive scooters?
ya on eye its very similar construction to zero 10 x or techlife x7 i quees they have the same frame chasisi drivewhell just diffrent controlers and engine maybe that they are faster on straight :x
@@corezero thanks man! Just knew recently that they rebrand the same scooters made in China. Would you know what are other OEM's and their rebrands? :)
I don't know why he never really mentions it but many companies offer variants on the same scooter OEM'd by Titan in China: Zero 10X, Turbowheel Lightning, Apollo Pro, TechLife X7, etc..... they just modify to their individual company taste... It's so obvious since they look the same. i wish he would lay it out and do a proper comparo on all of them... plus add the Nan D6+ and Mantis... This Ludicrous is more a one-off special than a standard model...
PLEASE HELP.. apollo pro, wolf warrior, or qiewa q power??? Any more discount on wolf warrior??? THESE are my choices. Curious which 1 do you own and prefer to drive? I like speed, distance and looks. Appreciate it.
Chuck ~ Appreciate the vid! Quick question - the stem on the Pro is solely the cylindrical stem piece but on the Explore the cylindrical stem, more than halfway up, is inside that thicker almost rectangular exterior surrounding it. I could be totally wrong but isn’t that safer for the stem (Explore style)? Since it’s strengthening the cylindrical piece and adding a touch of girth. 🤷🏽♂️
better buy the vsett 10+ for that money i reached 80km/h on that beast, and if i want i can get up to 80-100km far on 1 battery charge also comfort on the vsett 10+ is superior to any other estep i ever had. on top of that, the vsett 10+ has a sick design
Hi!! Sir can you help me reset my controller settings? My controller is NJAX-T I cant access to my P Settings I want to change the settings. Thank you!
@@ExpatMB yeah....I don't believe them when they say they don't get paid by manufacturers or retailers because there tends to be alot of name dropping and there also tends to be discount codes for products - you're telling me they're directing all these buyers to specific sites out of the goodness of their heart and not getting anything in return...very altruistic.
Please review the blade 10? What would you recommend the ludicrous from apollo or the blade 10 selling on ebay? Let me know your thoughts. Is nutt better or zoom braking?
Im stuck between the Apollo Pro 52 or turbowheel lightening? Apollo 52v with hydraulics is the same as Turbowheel lighting + also . Any opinions on which one? Is hydraulics worth it?
would love to buy the pro ludi, any idea if its avaible for shipping to Belgium? Ive already send them a mail but still waiting on respons. Am also wondering if its even a good idea to buy one if there are no close retailers, just for when something goes wrong.
It's a great scooter. It won't be available until the end of Summer. I don't know what Apollo's international distribution is like right now, but I would guess that it's expanding rapidly. -Paul
Nowdays there's scooters that goes almost twice as fast. Only year gone and already there is some insane scooters out there which you could ride freeway speeds if you got the balls and good life insurance...
I think the 52v with hydraulic brakes is the way to go. I’ve hit 40mph plus on mine and the acceleration is fast enough (unless you’re into racing). I don’t ever feel like I need better acceleration or top speed. The regen brake on the Ludo is pretty awesome but to me the Ludo isn’t worth $1700 more...
True. It's still the quickest scooter we have ever tested, but no longer the fastest, for sure! We haven't quite got our Wolf King to 100km/hr but we've gotten very close! -Paul
Do you think you can make a video on helmets to buy for scooters that reach speeds of up to 40mph? im looking at different helmets but im confused about the best type to get.
Chuck i know you did a review on the Apollo ghost and i know you said it came with dual 800 watt motors but i was just repairing my tube and i discovered that i have a Ghost with two 1000 watt motors i was wondering how could the company send me a scooter with bigger motors for 1400 well i looked on both ends yup two 1000 watt motors did your ghost the one tested come with 1000 watt motors let me know anyone else own the ghost check your motors you might have a super ghost 👻!!
Just say you have an Apollo pro 52v and you wanted to go to 60v. Is it only a battery swap or something else. My motors say 52v 1000watt and 60v 1200watt.
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Got the Apollo city, and I have had it at 27 mph which is fast enough for me 👀
i love what apollo did to improve so much to this performance line, i wish they’d put the same effort into a portable performance scooter where traffic, road conditions and staircases are judgement factors
maybe a carbon fiber frame? weight is a concern for sure with these higher power scooters!
YES! This was the scooter comparison I have been waiting for. Great job.
Awesome review , highly detailed and informative , love the content and the attention to detail , best to @esg and @apolloscooters
Your reviews are so well produced...million dollar quality. It seems as if you guys are at a Million subs with the quality of content.
@ 16:03 did anybody notice how the screw kept circling and not come up,
yeah thats quality assurance of this product right there,
hey man all these scooter makers are selling us the same lolly pop with their custom wrapper.
BRAVO! Another well done review!
The thumb activated regen brake is a genius idea! I hope more low end scooters follow.
Hiboy s2 Pro has a thumb regen brake
is "ludo" what the cool kids are saying now?
Apollo is so impressive and continues to bring innovation. This is why I bought their Phantom V2 and can't wait to receive the upgrade to V3 which should be shipped to me in a few weeks!
😍
We agree! Enjoy your scooter. -Vosk
Insane scooters and insane review quality. Great job guys!
17% faster and 21% heavier... and more than 2X more expensive than the Mantis Pro. (Mantis Pro is $1700 on Aliexpress, the Apollo Ludicrous costs $3500)
Thanks Chuck for this new test with those amazing scooters 😁
Great video guys, I enjoyed it 👍🏼
That thumb throttle should be standard on any high performance electric scooter. It provides much better control than the trigger throttles. I installed the same thumb throttle on my Ludicrous BBSHD mountain bike build, and I have a much more reactive riding experience on the trails. Cheers.
The Apollo seems like the Apple version of the Mantis.
Solid review so much detail!!!!!
Dualtron vs? maybe?
This scooter was the best purchase I ever made! I’ve already put 100 miles on it.
which one did u buy and what range do you get out of it?
Hundred miles is nothing. I just bought the pro, the clamp broke on the seat and they won’t warrantee it. there’s no warranty!
@@natebice7375 - Are you serious? You just got it and they won't replace a little clamp? I may have to reconsider my purchase. I was going to buy the Pro this weekend because they are running a $200 discount.
NoProGoPronto when I first installed the seat the clamp broke because you have to tighten the living crap out of it.Days of back and forth they said I could pay for a new one and the next day they emailed me and said they would give me a free one but nothing yet. I thought everything would be under warranty especially if bought 2weeks ago. Besides the seat witch I hate because it’s lame,so it’s not a big deal.The scooter is sweet. The rear fender totally SUCKS and the stem locking mechanism is going to need replaced soon because the bolts are bending. If you don’t plan on folding the scooter up to much I wouldn’t worry about that part. Honestly iam disappointed in the customer service. I pray nothing major goes wrong anytime soon.
NoProGoPronto hey bro if you have any questions about the 52v pro just ask. I’ve put on 300 miles so far. O I forgot the front lights suck you definitely would need a aftermarket light. Back red lights are nice and bright.
Another cool and comprehensive review! 👍👍
Buying one tommorrow thanks for your review!!!
rion??
APOLLO GHOST IS MY RIDE . YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST . PERIOD !
Thanks for the review these scooters look awesome!
I think Ill wait until these guys are down to that 999 range, most of the money is tied up in the batteries and soon they'll be far less expensive I hope.
This kind of regen braking should be on all scooters. Awesome. I think maybe the extra range tho might also be the controller being more efficient?
looks exatcly like a zero 10x with a different colour scheme.
There are other differences in suspension and forged aluminum
and 24 month warranty 🤷🏿♂️
Yes, they are the same scooter just rebranded. OEM name of this scooter is Unicool T10-DDM.
@@corezero thats what I thought
Pretty much is. Looks like the Mantis as well. These are all clone variations of the Dualtron Eagle Pro. Each brand just changes color scheme and maybe suspension here and handlebar there. I wish someone would clone the Rions carbon fiber build.
Awesome 👍 review. Keep up the great videos
Just purchased an EMOVE TOURING with your link!
I do like it, just wish it went a little faster.
I wanted an Apollo city but they are 6-8 weeks out!
Thanks all u guys for all the great info I just bought the ludo can't wait....
Show me a video of the ludo on the road I heard that suck
Thank you. Awesome review 👍
Awesome & informative review! Thank you!
I just subbed to your channel and this is my first video, and I have to say, you do a GREAT job. I really love the way you do an orderly and detailed review. I'm sure you've probably done it already, so could you possibly share a link to your reviews of some scooters that are geared more for off road type of riding? I have no clue what to really look for and price isn't an issue, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and keep up the great work.
look for zero 10X
and wolf warrior
What about the RION2 RE90 RACING Edition 🤔
Lmao they don’t want to mention Rion or Weped SS
charles kato forgot about the weped ss.
Watching this in my office because I got to work too early on my Apollo Ghost lol.
Haha stay safe
Excellent video 👍🏾
Great review like always.
I tought the next apollo model would be a Z11x clone. That's a steep price for a mild upgrade.
All apollos are So cheap 3500 are u kidding u can get a wolf warrior for 2800 or a kaabo GT FOR 3500 which one would u want no competion are u kidding
Please review the Nanrobot D6+ I don’t think you guys have yet. This video was great like all your videos are! 😁
I crashed my EMOVE CRUISER at 25 mph and broke my fema in 2 places!! Thank God I had a full faced helmet on because I slammed my head on the pavement really hard!! So I couldn’t even imagine doing 50 mph standing up on a Scooter!! I’m 53 years old and I thank God these scooters didn’t come out 30 years ago when I was a LUNATIC!! 🤪☠️🤘🏻as always Chuck great video!! By the way I sold my Scooter and I’m waiting on an Ariel Electric bike should have it in a week or two!!!!☮️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Can you make a review on the Gotrax g4 when it comes out?
The way he was talking about it I thought it broke all scooter records in terms of speed. It's slow in comparison to other top scooters on the market.
Nah
We still waiting For Dualtron reviews
Same. I look for Wrong Way for Dualtron Reviews. I'm looking to see which kind of model has the longest range distance while maintaining a relatively good speed
Late shipment. Coming in late September
Looking for mini review
You'll be waiting a while, because this channel only reviews scooters their store sells. This video is probably misleading some people to thinking the "Apollo Ludicrous" is the fastest scooter on earth. It's simply fastest scooter ol' Chuck has made a video for.
@@me213516 ok cheers. Didnt know this
Thinking of purchasing a used scooter. Your thoughts and opinion on used scooter. Thanks
Buying a used scooter can be a bit scary, as you can't be sure how well/poorly the previous owner took care of the scooter. Probably your biggest concern would be how well they maintained their battery. Just like purchasing any other vehicle, I'd want to be able to check the scooter out completely and do a test ride before handing over my $$, especially for any scooter over $1000.
In ESG Forums, we have a space where riders can buy/sell: forum.electric-scooter.guide/t/buy-and-sell
-Trina
Fast? I think you mean quick...there's a big difference. Fast is a 90mph Rion or Weped
Can you please make a separate video on Kaabo Mantis Pro and Apollo Pro comparing about the range and tell us which has the best range.
Have not seen a video of this scooter yet with it on the road
I wonder if they will make the regenerative breaking an option on the standard version. I like the fact that there's redundancy in the breaking mechanism. Should one fail or require maintenance the other one will continue to function.
Also one big problem I see with the Ludicrous is having to use your phone with it. I don't know about you guys. But I ride my scooter to get away from my phone and it's distractions. That's just me.
Great review 👍
Why do $10 scooters like the Ninebot Max come with regenerative breaking and a headlight in the correct position and thumb throttle as standard?
What's with the cheap and nasty generic finger throttle control on most expensive scooters?
Apollo Pro 60v / Ludicrous Purchase Link: geni.us/fNTDBaV
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This coupon give $100 free accessories
When will you do vsett 10 review?
I hope to have one here within a month or so. Sorry for the long wait. We haven't even seen one in person yet. -Paul
Hi Chuck! Hope you can make a review of the Hero S8, nice work by the way!
Looks alot like the Kaabo Mantis. Almost exactly the same. Are they made by the same company?
I still prefer the mantis Pro. Better range!
Indeed! The Range on my Mantis Pro never lets me down.
Isn't the Apollo a Zero?
ya on eye its very similar construction to zero 10 x or techlife x7 i quees they have the same frame chasisi drivewhell just diffrent controlers and engine maybe that they are faster on straight :x
Yes, they are the same scooter just rebranded. OEM name of this scooter is Unicool T10-DDM.
@@corezero god to know .
@@corezero thanks man! Just knew recently that they rebrand the same scooters made in China. Would you know what are other OEM's and their rebrands? :)
I don't know why he never really mentions it but many companies offer variants on the same scooter OEM'd by Titan in China: Zero 10X, Turbowheel Lightning, Apollo Pro, TechLife X7, etc..... they just modify to their individual company taste... It's so obvious since they look the same. i wish he would lay it out and do a proper comparo on all of them... plus add the Nan D6+ and Mantis... This Ludicrous is more a one-off special than a standard model...
Do you have a video on the Apollo ghost?
Can you please review Okidas Z4 scooter (and other Okidas scooters) it's hard to find reviews for them, but they look so promising.
Thanks
I don't think the Apollo Ludicrous will beat the Dualtron X though. Acceleration maybe, but not rolling race to high speeds.
I would like to see the Apollo vs the Nanrobot D6+.
Quick question, will this scooter compete with the Rion RE90? The real speedster.
lol, a 4k everyday scooter vs a 8k carbon race scooter...
@@marcbibeau1416 3200watts vs re90 55,000watts.....
It wont even hold its own vs a ds storm
Allegedly
Nothing beats a rion, 2 different classes.
@@rls5913 100%
PLEASE HELP.. apollo pro, wolf warrior, or qiewa q power??? Any more discount on wolf warrior??? THESE are my choices. Curious which 1 do you own and prefer to drive? I like speed, distance and looks. Appreciate it.
No chance against the king gt
Chuck ~ Appreciate the vid! Quick question - the stem on the Pro is solely the cylindrical stem piece but on the Explore the cylindrical stem, more than halfway up, is inside that thicker almost rectangular exterior surrounding it. I could be totally wrong but isn’t that safer for the stem (Explore style)? Since it’s strengthening the cylindrical piece and adding a touch of girth. 🤷🏽♂️
better buy the vsett 10+ for that money
i reached 80km/h on that beast, and if i want i can get up to 80-100km far on 1 battery charge
also comfort on the vsett 10+ is superior to any other estep i ever had.
on top of that, the vsett 10+ has a sick design
Apollo pro vs Nanrobot D6+ pleaseeeee 🙏🏽
Hi!! Sir can you help me reset my controller settings? My controller is NJAX-T I cant access to my P Settings I want to change the settings. Thank you!
Is it faster than the RION?
Lol
No
Not even close.
The Dualtron and Rion scooters would cheese these two based on speed.
@aussie bogan I care since the bold title claims Apollo to be the fastest scooter...
@aussie bogan and they wont cause they want to give the Impression of these being the fastest scooters you can get
@San Diagou should know that Dualtron is relasing their 72V models this year...
@San Diago oo now i get it...you previously mentioned nothing about the Amps
My Wolf Warrior is in route to my address next week... I may have to return it now 😩
I got a wolf on the way too, I still like it over these for my purpose.
Nah Man, the Wolf is a BEAST! Speed isn’t everything, the Wolf has Range and Speed.
Keep the Wolf. Way better for trails and off-road.
what about wingmods rev ( boosted rev )?
Hey Chuck would you please make a review and test on the zero11x or turbowheel phaeton?
When can we expect to see reviews for the Ultra and the zero 11x?
Hope u do the nanrobot d6+ soon
I own this scooter. What do you think of it?
@@xcavata just ordered it a couple days ago.. still waiting on it in the mail.
Well, you still have not review the 60V Zero 10x. It is so similar..
I know. I've seen comments asking but alas. There seems to be some bias towards the Kaabo scooters such as interviews with the owner of the company.
@@ExpatMB yeah....I don't believe them when they say they don't get paid by manufacturers or retailers because there tends to be alot of name dropping and there also tends to be discount codes for products - you're telling me they're directing all these buyers to specific sites out of the goodness of their heart and not getting anything in return...very altruistic.
Which would you choose? The 60v 10x or 60v Apollo pro
I would like to see it up against the WEPED SS I’m 53 and have absolutely no reason to be doing 50mph standing up!!!
how bout 49 mph?
Yeah it’s really dangerous even at 35mph. I don’t usually go more than 30mph on my Apollo Pro 52.
Is that thumb throttle available on all Apollo models?
Yes it is
They're smart! Any news on uk releases?
Please review the blade 10? What would you recommend the ludicrous from apollo or the blade 10 selling on ebay? Let me know your thoughts. Is nutt better or zoom braking?
Im stuck between the Apollo Pro 52 or turbowheel lightening? Apollo 52v with hydraulics is the same as Turbowheel lighting + also . Any opinions on which one? Is hydraulics worth it?
I'm 200lbs do you think this passes the big boy challenge and can haul me up hills and how's the deck I'm size 12 shoes?
Will you make a review of Mantis 8 Dual please. Considering to change the Zero 9 for it.
would love to buy the pro ludi, any idea if its avaible for shipping to Belgium? Ive already send them a mail but still waiting on respons. Am also wondering if its even a good idea to buy one if there are no close retailers, just for when something goes wrong.
It's a great scooter. It won't be available until the end of Summer. I don't know what Apollo's international distribution is like right now, but I would guess that it's expanding rapidly. -Paul
Great video but I think I stick with my Nami Burn-E 2 max
Thanks & Enjoy your scooter
-Vosk
Whats a good light weight scooter with a decent amount of power that can go up hill??
how does the range of the 52 volt compare with the 60 volt versions?
What about the Apollo Phantom V2?
We tested it already! -Vosk
Is the charger compatible with the nanrobot D6 Plus?
Nowdays there's scooters that goes almost twice as fast. Only year gone and already there is some insane scooters out there which you could ride freeway speeds if you got the balls and good life insurance...
Also we need to know which is the best value for money option amongst Apollo Pro 52v and Pro60v also looking the range for both of them
I think the 52v with hydraulic brakes is the way to go. I’ve hit 40mph plus on mine and the acceleration is fast enough (unless you’re into racing). I don’t ever feel like I need better acceleration or top speed. The regen brake on the Ludo is pretty awesome but to me the Ludo isn’t worth $1700 more...
When are you gonna the king of speed, rion?
I don't think Rion much fancies the drop test lulz
because.... this is a test of best child made scooter
BOLD thumbnail!!! Yeah!
This video will need an update now there is a 100Km/hr Kaabo Warrior now available. Make sure you're wrapped up like the Michelin Man LOL
True. It's still the quickest scooter we have ever tested, but no longer the fastest, for sure! We haven't quite got our Wolf King to 100km/hr but we've gotten very close! -Paul
Do you think you can make a video on helmets to buy for scooters that reach speeds of up to 40mph? im looking at different helmets but im confused about the best type to get.
look into ixs trigger ff helmet
Chuck i know you did a review on the Apollo ghost and i know you said it came with dual 800 watt motors but i was just repairing my tube and i discovered that i have a Ghost with two 1000 watt motors i was wondering how could the company send me a scooter with bigger motors for 1400 well i looked on both ends yup two 1000 watt motors did your ghost the one tested come with 1000 watt motors let me know anyone else own the ghost check your motors you might have a super ghost 👻!!
Is the code for accessors only for the 60v?
Not sure that the Apollo Pro is any different than the Evolve Pro.
Just say you have an Apollo pro 52v and you wanted to go to 60v. Is it only a battery swap or something else. My motors say 52v 1000watt and 60v 1200watt.
caRpetbomBer1
Motors are different too
Where is the dueltron love?
Dualtron Storm that's a badasd
noobz that’s what I’m saving up for. Making my first purchase my last!
bahman r Dualtron quality are hit and miss. Controller are supposed to be dodgy on them among many others