Engine Option After US Backstabbing
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How can a country do this knowing the track record of US, that's why I like the Chinese approach of begging, borrowing or stealing. They never compromise on national interest. We need to learn a lot from China.
yes, but our countrymen dont like nationalist govt, they only want freebies and reservation and vote that way
US is never a trusted friend , its foolish to depend on US for engines we should scrap the deal and scrap all other US deals , they are doing politics over business , and buy other alternatives
We are partially following China…only the begging part!
Also they have a single party 'democracy' according to the badralok kommes that i talked with.
Sometimes i wonder if we should also have such kind of democracy but then i remember what if that single party is khangress, then i bow down and continue this fate accorded to Bhāratam.
We need not to steal anything, there can be multiple approaches to achieve the same goal, saying we should do what China did is immature and dilly statement.
Correct solution is:
> Increase defense budget to $100B+ so that there is more demand, thus more business for Gov and private companies.
> More fund allocation to research entities like DRDO.
> Dealing of defense related things on a fast track basis, no babugiri.
> Prioritize domestic defense purchase, unlike Stryker and Tata Whap case
> ToT to Indian companies initially, when more business, more profits and more potential for military bussiness will be there private companies will start doing there own R&D eventually.
India should always keep it mind that USA may blackmail India. Any country may blackmail india but USA and its NATO ally shall certainly do it.
US is never a trusted friend , its foolish to depend on US for engines we should scrap the deal and scrap all other US deals , they are doing politics over business , and buy other alternatives
not may but will
Very true. It is really strange haw & why the persons at right places have failed to oversee this issue. It was not a new event. Earlier happened during late 1950's with our first effort to produce Fighter aircraft of our own in the form of that excellent war plane HF 24 Marut.
That time it was Britishers who refused to provide the required thrust engine but later provided very laser powered engine. As a result that wonderful warplane remain under powered through out its carrier. Then also it retired with glory. We at this stage of geopolitical situation can't depend entirely upon a particular country. Not even France alone for engine. We must diversify with a parallel partner at the same time to signal that "don't try to arm twist ,we are having parallel option to develop with.
पुष्पक विमान का निकाल के लगा ले, मुद्दि जी के पास तो है ही कहीं छुपा रखा होगा अम्बानी वेम्बानि के घर पे ..
मतलब तो ये न्यूज़ ही झूठी है की तेजस स्वनिर्मित है, अभी तो देखना पंख, पहिये, विंड शील्ड, गियर बॉक्स सारे विदेशी निकलेंगे तो भेण चो* ये फेंकू क्या बहरा रहा है की आत्मनिर्भर बनो? ये लौड़ा मुट्ठ मरने में भी किसी संघी को काम पे लगता होगा इसमें भी आत्मनिर्भर नहीं होगा ..
Stopping Kaveri engine development was the biggest mistake...now paying price
We need a successful kaveri engine otherwise such type of delay tolleret our defence structure . I hope gov of India and defence minister take it seriously
That's why we need to focus on kaveri engine program on war level situation
Wait for 30 years
US is never a trusted friend , its foolish to depend on US for engines we should scrap the deal and scrap all other US deals , they are doing politics over business , and buy other alternatives
@@enigmas5441 😭😤
Now engine supply chain has become scapegoat for HAL.
Before that it was American sanction😊
We do not have the technology and nobody is willing to give you any engine tech....we are a 3rd world and low tech country...deal with it...
Never invest in US assets. They will cripple your fighting capavility😅
Bully, Unreliable america se weapons,engines Nahi buy karne chahiye aur Na hi engines, weapons ke liye collaborate karna chahiye.america ke sath sabi deals Cancel karo aur koi new deal Na sign karo.
Bharat ko time tested trustworthy friend Russia se weapons,engines buy karne chahiye aur collaborate Karna chahiye.
Sirf Maha-murakh,Darpok, Mansik Gulam,Corrupt lok leaders bureaucrats hi america upar trust karte hai. Army mein bhi koi official gardar hoga puppet hoga america ka jo Russian engines ko consider nahi karta aur Bully america se dealings karva reha hai.
you mean all the damn IT sector that runs just due to the west and america?
It was the stupidest idea to procure the GE Engines, given the treacherous record of the USA. We should have had an alternative. And we need to rejuvenate the Kaveri Engine programme with full funding.
पुष्पक विमान का निकाल के लगा ले, मुद्दि जी के पास तो है ही कहीं छुपा रखा होगा अम्बानी वेम्बानि के घर पे ...
मतलब तो ये न्यूज़ ही झूठी है की तेजस स्वनिर्मित है, अभी तो देखना पंख, पहिये, विंड शील्ड, गियर बॉक्स सारे विदेशी निकलेंगे तो भेण चो* ये फेंकू क्या बहरा रहा है की आत्मनिर्भर बनो? ये लौड़ा मुट्ठ मरने में भी किसी संघी को काम पे लगता होगा इसमें भी आत्मनिर्भर नहीं होगा ..
@@bevdo-banno3169soch rha hu teri ammi ki engine nikaal lu 🤔
Bully, Unreliable america se weapons,engines Nahi buy karne chahiye aur Na hi engines, weapons ke liye collaborate karna chahiye.america ke sath sabi deals Cancel karo aur koi new deal Na sign karo.
Bharat ko time tested trustworthy friend Russia se weapons,engines buy karne chahiye aur collaborate Karna chahiye.
Sirf Maha-murakh,Darpok, Mansik Gulam,Corrupt lok leaders bureaucrats hi america upar trust karte hai. Army mein bhi koi official gardar hoga puppet hoga america ka jo Russian engines ko consider nahi karta aur Bully america se dealings karva reha hai.
I agree with the point that RD33 ko imtegrate kr lena chahiye, induct bhale na krein but backup is must. And uske chalte ye US waale bhaag k supply badhayege 😅
Mai to 5 saal se bol raha hu US aapke Tejas ko delay karwayega....russia se le lo engine. Maintenance mangta hai to kar lena bhai
Russian engine sahi nhi hai bhai
@@bananidas8941 same here bro
@@truepatriot1857 bhai su-30, su-35, su-57, tu-160 bomber sab to uda rahe hai russia wale unhi engine se.....koi engine na hone se to behtar hi hai ek thik thak engine hona
❤@@amrinder-0764g
@@amrinder-0764g bro use hisab se we can easily go to France and get the m88. Ya FIR Kaveri ka thoda sa trust badhakar ya FIR thoda sa trust se compromise kar kar Kaveri use kar sakte hain.
GE janbhooj kar delay kar raaha hai ,taaki sahi time par production agar hi gayi to export market khul jayegi,TEJAS ke liye
US will never provide you the engine technology and required engine on time. US wants india blindly get in its side.😂
Bully, Unreliable america se weapons,engines Nahi buy karne chahiye aur Na hi engines, weapons ke liye collaborate karna chahiye.america ke sath sabi deals Cancel karo aur koi new deal Na sign karo.
Bharat ko time tested trustworthy friend Russia se weapons,engines buy karne chahiye aur collaborate Karna chahiye.
Sirf Maha-murakh,Darpok, Mansik Gulam,Corrupt lok leaders bureaucrats hi america upar trust karte hai. Army mein bhi koi official gardar hoga puppet hoga america ka jo Russian engines ko consider nahi karta aur Bully america se dealings karva reha hai.
Glad and Happy with systematic series of video on this delay issue.
Best and fullproof option is to giving funds for kaveri engine....
Liberals but but US is our friends 😂😂😂
Kindly keep your provincial politics limited to your corporation elections. No one making decions at national level gives a flying f about your ideological bend.
Where do you live - in a cave?
@@davetorcan6047 you live in Mansik Gulami of america.
Bully, Unreliable america se weapons,engines Nahi buy karne chahiye aur Na hi engines, weapons ke liye collaborate karna chahiye.america ke sath sabi deals Cancel karo aur koi new deal Na sign karo.
Bharat ko time tested trustworthy friend Russia se weapons,engines buy karne chahiye aur collaborate Karna chahiye.
Sirf Maha-murakh,Darpok, Mansik Gulam,Corrupt lok leaders bureaucrats hi america upar trust karte hai. Army mein bhi koi official gardar hoga puppet hoga america ka jo Russian engines ko consider nahi karta aur Bully america se dealings karva reha hai.
Liberals are bad?, nonsense. Liberalism is good, But PSEUDO LIBERALS ARE BAD - remember PSEUDO LIBERALS. . Similarly Secularism is good, But PSEUDO SECULARISM IS BAD..
Right wing supporter here, I think we should not shy away from shaking hands with anyone and everyone who helps us achieve our strategic goals. Even if it's USA.
America kabhi bhi hume Airo engine technology nahi dega.. toh ab Bharat ko Russia se technology leni chahiye.. otherwise America hume kahin ka nahi chhorega..
मतलब तो ये न्यूज़ ही झूठी है की तेजस स्वनिर्मित है, अभी तो देखना पंख, पहिये, विंड शील्ड, गियर बॉक्स सारे विदेशी निकलेंगे तो भेण चो* ये फेंकू क्या बहरा रहा है की आत्मनिर्भर बनो? ये लौड़ा मुट्ठ मरने में भी किसी संघी को काम पे लगता होगा इसमें भी आत्मनिर्भर नहीं होगा ..
Sahi kaha app ne.
Bully, Unreliable america se weapons,engines Nahi buy karne chahiye aur Na hi engines, weapons ke liye collaborate karna chahiye.america ke sath sabi deals Cancel karo aur koi new deal Na sign karo.
Bharat ko time tested trustworthy friend Russia se weapons,engines buy karne chahiye aur collaborate Karna chahiye.
Sirf Maha-murakh, Mand-budhi vale,Darpok, Mansik Gulam,Corrupt lok leaders bureaucrats hi america upar trust karte hai. Army mein bhi koi official gardar hoga puppet hoga america ka jo Russian engines ko consider nahi karta aur Bully america se dealings karva reha hai.
The best options available to the IAF are
1. Kaveri should be developed on a war-footing from the office of the PMO down to HAL, with heavy investment and rigid time lines. It would also be worthwhile bringing in the expertise of a few retired engineers who have worked with Rolls Royce or GE engines. 2. To seal an immediate long term partnership with RR for Tejas single engine and AMCA models.
Bully, Unreliable america se weapons,engines Nahi buy karne chahiye aur Na hi engines, weapons ke liye collaborate karna chahiye.america ke sath sabi deals Cancel karo aur koi new deal Na sign karo.
Bharat ko time tested trustworthy friend Russia se weapons,engines buy karne chahiye aur collaborate Karna chahiye.
Sirf Maha-murakh,Mand-budhi vale, Darpok,Mansik Gulam,Corrupt lok leaders bureaucrats hi america upar trust karte hai. Army mein bhi koi official gardar hoga puppet hoga america ka jo Russian engines ko consider nahi karta aur Bully america se dealings karva reha hai.
India should cancel the Boeing deal for 250 commercial planes
Then who?
@@iscifion7122 Joint venture with Russia who's already done joint venture with China for COMAC
@@iscifion7122 Russia ne 2023 mein already passenger aircraft Sukhoi Superjet ka Bharat mein joint manufacturing ka offer diya hai. Bharat ko time tested trustworthy friend Russia ka yeh offer accept karna chahiye aur Sukhois Superjet buy Karne chahiye.
Bully, Unreliable,Lootere america ke Sath boeing ki deal cancel kar deni chahiye
@@jaspreetsingh-xg7if Sukhoi superjet, ye kya hai ?
@@nishchal_yt7750 Sukhoi Superjet passenger aircraft hai jisko Russia manufacture karta hai aur Bharat ko bhi joint manufacturing ka offer diya hai Russia ne. Es Liye boeing deal cancel kar Russia ke Sath joint manufacturing karni chahiye aur Sukhoi Superjet buy karne chahiye Bharat ko
GE 414 engine to tejas mk2, amca, Tedbf me use karna hai.
100kn wala engine ka replacement abhi se start kar dena chahiye
This is a common sense, india know how USA is.......can't they think of having backup in their design for other engines..
US is never a trusted friend , its foolish to depend on US for engines we should scrap the deal and scrap all other US deals , they are doing politics over business , and buy other alternatives
Not easy to have a backup engine when design is closely tied to the engine design.
building reliable engines is not kids play, so think before u give random gyan that has no practical value, some things you just have to buy from those who have it.
@@CoronaForever486 Bully, Unreliable america se weapons,engines Nahi buy karne chahiye aur Na hi engines, weapons ke liye collaborate karna chahiye.america ke sath sabi deals Cancel karo aur koi new deal Na sign karo.
Bharat ko time tested trustworthy friend Russia se weapons,engines buy karne chahiye aur collaborate Karna chahiye.
Sirf Maha-murakh, Mand -budhi vale,Darpok, Mansik Gulam,Corrupt lok leaders bureaucrats hi america upar trust karte hai. Army mein bhi koi official gardar hoga puppet hoga america ka jo Russian engines ko consider nahi karta aur Bully america se dealings karva reha hai.
If US is deliberately slowing up things then RR & French will be a no show as well.
yeah, if India is playing double game with US and Russia, India is loosing all trust and then face consequences.
I will be very surprised if the government does not have a plan B. That would show extremely poor planning.
Even a dog on the street knows that trusting anyone w/o a plan b & c if possible is foolishness.
Bully, Unreliable america se weapons,engines Nahi buy karne chahiye aur Na hi engines, weapons ke liye collaborate karna chahiye.america ke sath sabi deals Cancel karo aur koi new deal Na sign karo.
Bharat ko time tested trustworthy friend Russia se weapons,engines buy karne chahiye aur collaborate Karna chahiye.
Sirf Maha-murakh, Mand-budhi vale, Darpok, Mansik Gulam,Corrupt lok leaders bureaucrats hi america upar trust karte hai. Army mein bhi koi official gardar hoga puppet hoga america ka jo Russian engines ko consider nahi karta aur Bully america se dealings karva reha hai.
AMCA in Danger because USA engine 😢
Bully, Unreliable america se weapons,engines Nahi buy karne chahiye aur Na hi engines, weapons ke liye collaborate karna chahiye.america ke sath sabi deals Cancel karo aur koi new deal Na sign karo.
Bharat ko time tested trustworthy friend Russia se weapons,engines buy karne chahiye aur collaborate Karna chahiye.
Sirf Maha-murakh,Darpok, Mansik Gulam,Corrupt lok leaders bureaucrats hi america upar trust karte hai. Army mein bhi koi official gardar hoga puppet hoga america ka jo Russian engines ko consider nahi karta aur Bully america se dealings karva reha hai.
No.we must spend more on r& d to develop our own world class engines 5G fighter aircraft indigenously.
Now we know how imp was kavari engine...
This is how the US will arm twist India whenever they want. They have enough of the GE 404 engine to supply Korea for their T50 , but they will play a delay card with India only. The deal of GE404 and GE414 will cost India in a long run and it will definitely delay the project of Tejas, Tedbf, Tejas mk2 and AMCA.
Even if we sign local manufacturing of GE414, still for the core components we will have to be dependent on US and they will again play delay game and will push for the sale of F35 to India to sabotage AMCA project.
India seriously needs to look for alternatives. Make Kaveri good enough to generate enough thrust for Tejas. Start working on plans to have EJ 2000 of Royal Royce as a substitute for GE414.
Depending on the US for all of our fighter engines is just like keeping all eggs in the same basket. It's gonna be a huge mistake if we cannot find alternatives as soon as possible.
The government, Airforce, GTRE and HAL need to stop blaming games and start working on alternatives.
थोड़े नंबर में RD33 लेकर US को pressurize करना सही लग रहा है. ईस्तेमाल नहीं हुए तो पड़ोसी को बेच डालेंगे उनके रूहानी तैयारे के लिये 😂 On a serious note Kaveri is the only answer.
Only option is Kaveri engine
Aap video banao and explain karo
"Kese India 272 Sukhoi-30Mki purchase kar li but 114 Rafale order mei itna jhik jhik.
Mmrca cannot go ahead due to costs, it is unrealistic demand knowing that we cannot afford to import 100+ jets
The idea.of follow on of 36 was good but the iaf chief was my way or high way guy
The ball is in iaf court, the file wont move ahead and they wont put an order for 200 mk2 from day 1 either
@@hiteshadhikari ball is only in govts court.. stop saving the govt and crying about budget.. ye procurement 10 saal se pending hai.. rafale is the choice, numbers bhi clear hain.. govt delayed AMCA by 4 yrs, Mk2 by 3 yrs.. and MMRCA by 10years.. govt ne budget reduce kiya 2.8% se 1.8%.. stay factual.. dont blame the forces .. tum saale modi ko chodh ke kisi par bhi blame daal sakte ho yaar.. hadd bc
Paisa ped pe ughte hai kya ?
Nahi politicians ke jeb me@@prashanthb6521
@@prashanthb6521 Abey... Mu q kharab karwa raha hai...
272 Sukhoi tumlog ne IAF ko gift Kiya tha kya !!!???
Jisko video k liye request Kiya hai usko bolne de... Tumse Jada Gyan hai usko...
Jab tak Kaveri engine sahi se nahi bnta, koi na koi backstab krta rhega.
Ek bar Kaveri engine sahi se ban gya, foreign companies ki jarurat hi nahi pdegi
मतलब तो ये न्यूज़ ही झूठी है की तेजस स्वनिर्मित है, अभी तो देखना पंख, पहिये, विंड शील्ड, गियर बॉक्स सारे विदेशी निकलेंगे तो भेण चो* ये फेंकू क्या बहरा रहा है की आत्मनिर्भर बनो? ये लौड़ा मुट्ठ मरने में भी किसी संघी को काम पे लगता होगा इसमें भी आत्मनिर्भर नहीं होगा ..
No matter who is ruling india ...US can fool you any time....
Bully, Unreliable america se weapons,engines Nahi buy karne chahiye aur Na hi engines, weapons ke liye collaborate karna chahiye.america ke sath sabi deals Cancel karo aur koi new deal Na sign karo.
Bharat ko time tested trustworthy friend Russia se weapons,engines buy karne chahiye aur collaborate Karna chahiye.
Sirf Maha-murakh, Mand -budhi vale,Darpok, Mansik Gulam,Corrupt lok leaders bureaucrats hi america upar trust karte hai. Army mein bhi koi official gardar hoga puppet hoga america ka jo Russian engines ko consider nahi karta aur Bully america se dealings karva reha hai.
Using the russain Engine is better than having no engine at all, beggars can't be choosers. It shouldn't matter at this point if the IAF doesn't like it, you don't have an option until you create your own.
, im so stressed about this situation...its so frustrating.
It really hurts the credibility of USA and GE.
Even for f414, we should either demand for 100% ToT(looks impossible tbh) or RR/saffran/ or dedicated new indigenous program for 100kn+ engine for Amca mrk1, tejas mk2 and TEDBF.
Probably will add some more delays but the result will be the best for our country.
We can use Russian engine for some time. And then replace them with our own.
Squadron strength is important but we can't be over dependent on usa.
Asa koi saga nahi jisko America na thaga nahi.
So the bottom line is we are nalyak indian engineers, nalyak politician, in 75 years we did nothing
Nalayak.
Yes
Actually Sir, then 3:51 what so we will do reservation act should be obey first then eligibility.
Is bottom line se kya kar loge ?? Paise the engine development ke tab? Jab aaye tab funding band kar di
@@kaushikkar74 yes
I don't understand this argument that IAF doesn't like Russian when almost half of IAF fleet fly on russian engine.
On top of that IAF has its apprehension of US fighter jet just because they are from US but IAF is ok with US engine.
HAL already producing RD-33MK for Mig-29K , it should not only just considered but also the alternative of Kaveri not GE-404.
We should give heavy fines to GE for not supplying engines on time. Even after repeated delays.
India should search for other engines , instead of relying for
engines on single country . India should try to develop kaveri engine as soon as possible ......
Indian government should put kaveri engine program under pmo and give retired air india Boeing 747 as a test bed (so in future indigenous high bypass turbofan engine can also be tested ) and give some fund to create high altitude testing facilities.we can't trust America for our fighter jet program.
देसी कावेरी इंजन के अलावा और कोई उपाय नहीं है,,, हम strategic autonomy को रखते हुए दूसरे देशों पर निर्भर नही कर सकते है,,, हमे अपने इंजन पर ध्यान देना होगा,,,रूस s400 की डिलीवरी नही कर पा रहा है,,, frigates की डिलीवरी भी पेंडिंग है,,, ak203 के spares में delay चल रहा था,,,, हमने इससे पहले खुद को fifth gen fighter aircraft program से भी हटा लिया था,,, रूस का इंजन कहां से समय पर मिल पाता,,,
Perhaps India should design Mk 1 A engine casing in such a way that it can accomodate GE 404,E J 200, as well as Safran engine. So that India have option in critical times even when the engine supplier tries to be fishy.
If I am not wrong, then we are going for local production of F414 engines for mk2. Hope such things will not happen with mk2.
Cancel karo inka contract with penalty, make own engine Or joint manufacture Sukhoi with Russia….
This is tactics to decouple Bharat rassian relations by US.
lol it will improve India-Russia relations
Thanks for the detailed analysis - I am a regular follower of this channel.
Keep up the good work....
Imagine what'll happen to Tejas Mk2, TEDBF, ORCA and AMCA. 😢
They'll all face similar if not worse problems.
Gayi bhains paani mai...bhool ja bhai mai bhi bhool chuka hun.
@@wojak4171 Bhai, bhoolenge toh nahi.
Tejas toh aake hi rahega, problems se guzrega zaroor, lekin Tejas-AMCA toh aahi jaega
Pakistaniyon ki tarah ham sabko "JF-17 pakistani tayaara hak" kahke bheekmange nahin banke rahenge.
Bully, Unreliable america se weapons,engines Nahi buy karne chahiye aur Na hi engines, weapons ke liye collaborate karna chahiye.america ke sath sabi deals Cancel karo aur koi new deal Na sign karo.
Bharat ko time tested trustworthy friend Russia se weapons,engines buy karne chahiye aur collaborate Karna chahiye.
Sirf Maha-murakh, Mand -budhi vale,Darpok, Mansik Gulam,Corrupt lok leaders bureaucrats hi america upar trust karte hai. Army mein bhi koi official gardar hoga puppet hoga america ka jo Russian engines ko consider nahi karta aur Bully america se dealings karva reha hai.
Bully, Unreliable america se weapons,engines Nahi buy karne chahiye aur Na hi engines, weapons ke liye collaborate karna chahiye.america ke sath sabi deals Cancel karo aur koi new deal Na sign karo.
Bharat ko time tested trustworthy friend Russia se weapons,engines buy karne chahiye aur collaborate Karna chahiye.
Sirf Maha-murakh, Mand -budhi vale,Darpok, Mansik Gulam,Corrupt lok leaders bureaucrats hi america upar trust karte hai. Army mein bhi koi official gardar hoga puppet hoga america ka jo Russian engines ko consider nahi karta aur Bully america se dealings karva reha hai.
Bro , can u please make a video on why we didn't try to make a twin engine fighter jet using kaveri engines when we got to know that KAVERI is not able to produce the desired 90+ kn of thrust that IAF wanted.
I mean kaveri can produce 70kn of afterburning thrust.
2 kaveris can produce 140kn
This way we could have had a backup fighter jet to fill our squadrons while simultaneously working on better engines.
Please share your thoughts .
Priyanshu bhai....lagbhag har country ne systematic aero engine ka growth kiya as time changed. India has made Kaveri but it has a task to make it compete with the best engines in one go which is hard. Two engines will sure add to thrust but will add to weight too.
This was very very expected. We should have never stopped our engine program. If this doesn't awaken our ministers to restart a full paced development of Kaveri engines, we ought to fail as a nation.
still we are not learning from our mistakes.....we should start funding engine development in all shorts like tanks, submarine, ships, and fighter jet
Jai Shree Radhe Krishna 🙏🙏🧡
Jai Bharat Rashtra 🙏🙏🧡
PMO still won't wake up for the engine program
His time is up... he already wasted our 10 yrs.
Developing engine is no joke. It will cost as billions of dollars which we don't have RN also not to forget cost over runs
@@strawhat9319he has done more better job in defence than rest of the prime ministers combined in the last 20 yrs
मतलब तो ये न्यूज़ ही झूठी है की तेजस स्वनिर्मित है, अभी तो देखना पंख, पहिये, विंड शील्ड, गियर बॉक्स सारे विदेशी निकलेंगे तो भेण चो* ये फेंकू क्या बहरा रहा है की आत्मनिर्भर बनो? ये लौड़ा मुट्ठ मरने में भी किसी संघी को काम पे लगता होगा इसमें भी आत्मनिर्भर नहीं होगा ..
It is not PMO job to poke its nose.. there half a dozen other guys supposed to apply the brains on this...
Itne timelime miss ho gye aaj tk HAL aur DRDO ka alternative to dhundha nhi gya.. GE ka dhundhenge.
Itna hi late ho rha tha to itne saal me FOC ko mk1A pe upgrade kr deta na HAL💁🏻♂️
startup companies apne end se try karti he, but us level ki chize pahli baar me to nahi bana ke de sakti. army ke higher rank officers ko bhi svadeshi ko thoda badhava dena chahiye. kuch din pahle TATA ne bahut acche army vehicles paisa invest karke bnaye the, end movement pe army ne reject kar diya, aur USA se import karne ka order de diya. abhi ke halat dekho, hamare javan bulletproof gadiya na hone ke karan hi kashmir me mare ja rahe he, pichle dino hi 5 aise shaheed hue. TATA jo bhi bana ke deta, mante he 19-20 ka fark hota, but atlest vo apna khud ka hota, aur aise delays ki vjah se kisi ki jaan nahi jati.
itne varsho se hamne svadeshi defance pe koi kaam nahi kiya, ab achanak inko america ke level ki chize chahiye, RnD me time to lagta hi he.
For a program this big where billions are involved there must be a contingency plan .......right HAL......right?...
Right na???
GOI should also not get a free pass here...like they didn't know the US can do this at its will !
Have been waiting for this video from you for 2 years !
even now we would be better off NOT relying on American / British engines.
They never want India to become powerful & violate their dictates !
Yahi problem hoti hai agar khud ka engine Na Ho I am also worried about AMCA. If our Kaveri engine has been made they just integrate with Tejas mark 1 these engines can also be used in AMCA
Rajnath as defence minister is responsible for the fiasco and has shown ineptitude and lack of vision in neglecting Kaveri engine. He should have pushed for the acceleration of the certification and upgrade of Kaveri . The media buffoons in BJP , Congress of Chinese and otter foreign hand never hold politicians to account on the relevant critical issues. The situation is quite grim.
Bully, Unreliable america se weapons,engines Nahi buy karne chahiye aur Na hi engines, weapons ke liye collaborate karna chahiye.america ke sath sabi deals Cancel karo aur koi new deal Na sign karo.
Bharat ko time tested trustworthy friend Russia se weapons,engines buy karne chahiye aur collaborate Karna chahiye.
Sirf Maha-murakh, Mand -budhi vale,Darpok, Mansik Gulam,Corrupt lok leaders bureaucrats hi america upar trust karte hai. Army mein bhi koi official gardar hoga puppet hoga america ka jo Russian engines ko consider nahi karta aur Bully america se dealings karva reha hai.
Launch the ORCA twin engine jet program *NOW* - with 2 x Kaveri instead of 2 x F414.
That way even if the Kaveri engine turns out to be slightly underpowered, it can still be used in the ORCA by keeping the aircraft's overall weight a bit lower.
The reduction of about a ton of reinforced landing gear material from TEDBF will do just that. Thrust to weight ratio with 2 x Kaveris eill still be high.
Do not end up in the same position as the MK1A where foreign suppliers can play these delaying games.
A good aircraft (ORCA) with an average indigenous engine (Kaveri) is infinitely than a good aircraft (MK1A, MK2, TEDBF, AMCA) with no engine (F414) !
Excellent analysis on the options available...sir can u make a video on rolls royce's offer for amca engine
India ko aage le kar jana hai to 2 kaam krne he padenge nahi to bas sab aise he chalta rahega
1. Existing govt jobs ko privatize kar do
2. Govt jobs khatam kar do
Jabtak ye nahi hota, aise he sab chalta rhega. Na time se Kaveri aa payega aur na he AMCA ya TEDBF.
Jo problems hum aaj face kr rhe he isko lekar back up plans pehle sehi envisaged kyu nhi kiye gya jabki hume pehle sehi ye situation ko maan kr iska alternative option bi pehle sehi sochna chahiye tha beshak humari IAF ko Russian engine pasand nhi he pr Tejas without engine se to ye Russian engine equipped tejas hume kuch to punch de hi deta ab agr ye Tejas program further delay hua to US ka to kuch nhi bigadega pr humari IAF ka kuch bi nhi bachega considering ki MRCA program nowhere in sight he abi tk usme koi bi progress nhi hui he uppr se mig21 ke saath saath Jaguars aircraft ke phased out hone ka time bi aagya he to ayse me hume jiska dar tha pehle se exactly vehi situation aagyi he matlab saaf he ki IAF ab near future me PAF se bi zaida downsize force banne ja rhi he thanks to the Farsighted vision of our Air headquarters genius.
It was expected , as the Supply chain was broken, However it will be better to concentrate, to develop indigenous options. In the future the USA will ditch to derail Tejus as well as AMCA program.
Thanks young man happy to see you
US par bharosa kiya ja hi nahin sakta. Mujhe to lagta hai ki abhi se hume alternative dhundhna chahiye. Jitna late karenge utni hi problem hogi.
Russian engine ke saath 2 issues hai... 1. Uski life span 2. Fuel consumption. Dono point ko consider kare toh Tejas ka operational cost kaafi badh jayega.
US is up set Modi is romancing with Putin.
So it stopped supplying US made engines to india😂
Isko problem na dekh kr opportunity dekho or govt. par iaf or gtre ko pressure banana chaiye ki kaveri ko fund karo testing facility or shi fund agar mil jaye to kaveri engine ka afterburner banane mai jyada dikkat nhi ayegi
Subodh rd33 engine is not very efficient so IAF avoid it. But we can go for rd33-MK variant with full digital control, no smoke(plasma ignition) and 4000 hours life. Mig29k has 70% availability with this engine(after 2019) It also has 7% increased thrust.
And one more thing that jf17 use Rd-93 engine and not rd33. RD-93 is licence variant for china and china modified it with disaster engineering(shifted gear box and engine casing to different place) and decreasing it's life from 4000 hours to only 2200 hours as told by pakistan.
Alpha defense ka jo opening bullet shot ka sound hai whi Trump ko aaj IRL sunai diya😂
India should take the help of foreign retired engine experts to enhance the performance of our Kaveri engines and remove its shortcomings for its faster development.
Even Boeing 747 Dreamliner uses both GE and RR engines. Tejas can do the same as well. RR is willing to do complete tech transfer and setup plant in India. India should take up this offer. Do the same with RD33 and Safran as well. Let everyone manufacture in India. Competition means no one can take advantage.
Am sure US will pose similar obstacles in 414 engines also…… not a reliable country….. we must explore other options
its not backstabbing.. but planning failure on HAL/ADA part.. when critical components like jet engines are driven by geopolitical headwinds and when they don't have an inhouse alternative ready, multiple parallel vendors should have been engaged from the beginning of Tejas program. for eg. 3 variants of Tejas one on GE, other on Snecma or Rolls Royce and third on a Russian engine.
I understand that it would have been a tad expensive, but still less expensive than having to buy off the shelf aircrafts directly to fill gaps in squadron numbers. Hope this is a lesson learnt for future and other ongoing programs.
When India is talking about Global supply chains, why do we fear Rolls Royce supply chain? Afterll its Rolls Royce that's making engines for Airbus Orders given by Indian aviation industry?
- Also Rolls Royce has a aero engine setup recently at Tamil nadu to meet its global supply chain.
- Rolls Royce deal, with Pounds- Rupees exchange at slow pace, for the new Single- Exhaust deeivative, in 3 yrs will pave way for Tejas Mk2 also ! Why can't India think & work in this direction?
- Also, Euro typhoon offer for MRFA is there with ToT. Why can't we engage with them for tejas mk1A....Also what stupid Single-family engine dependency with most unreliable partnr have we engaged ingo... Sovereignty & Strategic Autonomy is all compromised.
Very nice analysis 👌👍
I just saw a video by Sandep Unnithan on a bullpup version of Insas, which claimed to have been designed by an Indian Army Officer. Any thing on that?
India should go for another engine even if GE starts its supply in September..
Agree with ur suggestion of integrating a Russian Engine. Given a choice of having Mk1A at all or not the IAF will choose the former
Aaj tak kabhi aisa nahi hua ….jime US ne kisi bhi deal ko delay kar k arm twist karne ki koshish nahi ki …..fir India jike 75 saal ho gaye hain ….itne badi nausikhiya harkat kaise kar sakta hai ????
बिना मरे स्वर्ग नहीं मिलता अपना इंजन जब तक डेवलप नहीं करेंगे समस्या समाप्त नहीं होगी। सारा ध्यान अपना स्वदेशी इंजन डेवलप करने में लगाना चाहिए।
कोई देश नही चाहता कि आप इंजन उससे लें और उनसे अच्छा फाइटर जेट बना कर उनके मार्किट को डेंट पहुंचाए।
Good reporting. Must go with Indigenous Kaveri project accelerations. Forget outside sources. Better off with slight compromise but self reliant
Is vishwasghaat ki saza milegi..barabar milengi
What about Bore size ?
Will their be any issue in fitting RD 33 engine in to Tejas mk1a
This is good news for india in long run even if they not learn ‘ it is destined to happen
Charam Charam Charam hai leftist laal salam naukarshaahi kii.
25 mai bharti hote hai, or 62 mai retire hote hai ussi project ke saath.
India must develop a state of the art jet engine... It's time to be independent...
India should launch a national project to develop aeroplane engines. It must be a high priority project, and must operate like ISRO, and create a complete range of engines!
It will need massive investments and must be done on priority
Esi liye indigenous technology aur systems etane important hote hai....
You are matured when you know fighter plane doesn't have engine but engine have fighter plane.
Back to back sixer awesome dude❤
Over 3 decades back we made the mistake of going with GE engine. This actually resulted in French team leaving the LCA program. This resulted in huge delay in the program.
अमरीका के रिकॉर्ड को देखते हुए बैक अप रखना चाहिए था आपने सही कहा।
fir india ko tejas mk1 ko twin engine varint bnana hoga agr Russian engine use krna h that will be again big change twin engine vale varint to HAL ko pipe line me rkhna chiye
1 its will reduce india dependence on USA
2 we can use same platform for kaveri engine
what about second hand engines? several planes use the f404? can we purchase from other government?
The problem is that we believe honeymoon phase is the final phase and forget that that is least spanning phase in case of countries like usa
Other options than GE F-414
Al 31F
Al 41 series
EJ 200
Permanent option: quickly seal the deal with RR and make the AMCA engine, with a variant for single engine application on Tejas Mk2
American and British are same, we can not trust them. They are only offering this deal to us to delay the airforce plan sothat we eventually buy their fighter planes for our survival. Russia and France are the only reliable partners. We can not trust any NATO member countries. They are not free to take decisions on their own.
😂😂😂😂
Try to find what UK did to Jaguars during 1999 Kargil war.
@@pravindahiya719 I know about the old Rolls Royce deal....but Presently, the UK and it's defense industry is cash strapped and the Geo political situation is different......UK is more reliable than US.
@@dreamhunter2973UK is completely under US control
Very balanced analysis.
Right from beginning I had doubts on this deal and now it has come true. I wonder why HAL is hell bent on using GE engines??? Like you said HAL should try it with RD 33 Russian engines. Keeping the present geopolitical situation in mind, will GE be allowed to fulfill its commitment, there is question mark.
Kaveri engine is tgmhe only way out.
RR and Safran will also backstab in sometime...
*India should strongly focus on indigenously develop Fighter Jet Engines instead of going with USA*
@Alpha Defence, eagerly waiting for your next video on jet engine for Tejas and others
How long will it take for kaveri to certified? It's the best option possible for over LCA project.