Ok, I just did this today on my 8wt saltwater setup. I am blown away by how much nicer this setup casts in the FL wind. Gonna do it to all of my setups now. Thanks for the great content. Just ordered a mess of flies from you!!
Awesome content, I’m all ears when you two get together, it’s amazing in my opinion!!!! I have a Sage r8 10’ 6 wt and it honestly handles a 280 grain head like a dream. This line is an 8 wt and it doesn’t feel over lined at all on this 6 wt rod. Anyways, loved the video and content, thanks!!!
I usually keep my loop so I can change out leaders easier. Saves money too cause I’m not cutting back my actual fly line. I’ll usually fish nymphs and streamers on the same rod.
So yes....right call for you for sure. Just to be clear though....once they snell a butt section on a fly line, they typically don't do it again. There is no cutting back of the fly line over time. No wasting money in this method either.
I set mine up smelled to a 30 lb maxima clear butt section then just double surgeon knot my chosen leader to the end of that. That way I just clip an inch or so of my butt section to change leaders. The 30lb maxima clear butt section lasts plenty long for me. (7 wt)
Doesn’t cutting the loop off the line expose the core? Which then exposes the core to water? Which then let’s your floating line absorb water causing it to not float anymore? Or am I missing something?
Wondering if you folks might know of a mid 60's vintage gal who enjoys fishing, can back up a boat trailer, pole a flats skiff, row a drift boat, tie some of the more popular salt and freshwater flies and rustle up a decent meatloaf or shore lunch from time to time? Oh, it wouldn't hurt if she didn't talk too much but it's not a deal breaker if she looks like April Vokey.. Great video btw..
If I were to do a short section with a perfection loop to attach leaders loop to loop, would it be better to use fluoro so the degradation of the mono would be less of an issue?
It may not be quite as funny as a "good leader starts in your butt", but I do remember a prominent political leader (name escapes me at the moment) trying to advance the concept of "leading from behind". Or, maybe it was "leading with my behind"?
@@Madriveroutfitters Serious question. Why don't fly manufacturers, who have reams of data about the properties of their lines, realize they could create genuinely good customer relations by providing some detailed advice like the kind you and Flip discussed--for at least the butt section of the leader?
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I love that they make a version of this video a few times a year. It’s almost like they don’t like the loop connection 😂
Not sure....you'd have to check with them to verify.
I could sit and intently listen to you two having a conversation and NEVER get tired!
Thanks for being here!
Dude! I'm sitting at work just watching Flip videos. I can do this all day.
Love you guys, greetings all the way from Bulgaria, Europe. I love fly fishing, here in my country we mainly fish chub and trout. All the best!!
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I recently placed an order to start building my own leader and ordered a new bass streamer. Thank you for the great videos and customer service.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the support. We really appreciate it.
Thanks as always to Flip!!!!
Greatest information!!!
Thanks for watching.
Ok, I just did this today on my 8wt saltwater setup. I am blown away by how much nicer this setup casts in the FL wind. Gonna do it to all of my setups now. Thanks for the great content. Just ordered a mess of flies from you!!
Thanks for watching and especially thanks for the support of the shop. Much appreciated.
Awesome content, I’m all ears when you two get together, it’s amazing in my opinion!!!! I have a Sage r8 10’ 6 wt and it honestly handles a 280 grain head like a dream. This line is an 8 wt and it doesn’t feel over lined at all on this 6 wt rod. Anyways, loved the video and content, thanks!!!
Thanks so much for watching!!!
Great content!!!
Thanks for watching!!!
I usually keep my loop so I can change out leaders easier. Saves money too cause I’m not cutting back my actual fly line. I’ll usually fish nymphs and streamers on the same rod.
So yes....right call for you for sure. Just to be clear though....once they snell a butt section on a fly line, they typically don't do it again. There is no cutting back of the fly line over time. No wasting money in this method either.
I set mine up smelled to a 30 lb maxima clear butt section then just double surgeon knot my chosen leader to the end of that. That way I just clip an inch or so of my butt section to change leaders. The 30lb maxima clear butt section lasts plenty long for me. (7 wt)
Doesn’t cutting the loop off the line expose the core? Which then exposes the core to water? Which then let’s your floating line absorb water causing it to not float anymore? Or am I missing something?
They have addressed this in a few other videos. The snell seals the line right up. No exposed core.
We keep looping back to loops. I cut them off now, and when I see them on lines it drives me loopy 😂
No pun intended?
@@Madriveroutfitters oh. No. It was intended. It felt like butter to say 🤦♂️
Wondering if you folks might know of a mid 60's vintage gal who enjoys fishing, can back up a boat trailer, pole a flats skiff, row a drift boat, tie some of the more popular salt and freshwater flies and rustle up a decent meatloaf or shore lunch from time to time? Oh, it wouldn't hurt if she didn't talk too much but it's not a deal breaker if she looks like April Vokey.. Great video btw..
Thanks for watching.
yes
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If I were to do a short section with a perfection loop to attach leaders loop to loop, would it be better to use fluoro so the degradation of the mono would be less of an issue?
No reason to use fluoro for this.
Mermaid man has made me cut my loop off. EVILLLLL
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@@Madriveroutfitters I don’t mean any disrespect by that statement lol. Loves the videos
if we cit the flyline loop and then have to keep adding leaders, don't we shorten the fly line over time?
Watch the full series here for more context. If you cut the loop, you don’t keep adding leaders. You tie the butt section on once.
amazing information all the time.. thank you
Thanks for watching.
It has been a year, and still no “a good leader starts in the butt” shirt for me to buy…
@@Isaacmantx stay tuned!
So, this wasn’t explicitly covered in the video but why do you cut the loop off the fly line? Does it transfer energy better without the loop?
We have many other videos that do! Feel free to contact the shop if any questions or if you can’t find the videos.
If you go back and watch some earlier episodes, Brian and Flip talk about loop to loop causing extra weight and causing a hinge when casting.
@@jamesmangiafico6498 Yes, thanks. It has been explicitly covered in plenty of other videos.
Make sense, but it leaves almost too many butt jokes available for new T-shirts.
That's the idea. Gotta sell shirts!!! Thanks for watching.
So... we need the correct stiffness in the butt.
All about the butt!
I finally got it thanks will check back for sales Ossipee NH
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I thought leader should be length of fly rod?
Thanks for watching. Please send questions directly to Brian through the shop. You can e-mail him or call him and he'll be happy to help.
@@Madriveroutfitters ok thanks
It may not be quite as funny as a "good leader starts in your butt", but I do remember a prominent political leader (name escapes me at the moment) trying to advance the concept of "leading from behind". Or, maybe it was "leading with my behind"?
Ha! That's good. Thanks for watching.
@@Madriveroutfitters Serious question. Why don't fly manufacturers, who have reams of data about the properties of their lines, realize they could create genuinely good customer relations by providing some detailed advice like the kind you and Flip discussed--for at least the butt section of the leader?
@@mwiltfang4618 Feel free to send this over to Brian via email and he’ll get back to you for sure. Or you can call him. Thanks.
Please make some shirts with "A good leader starts with a good butt" or "You're only as good as your butt"
Stay tuned!
“Confusmint” “Confuzin”
Those are words….right? Thanks for watching.
Ahhh yes, stiffness in the butt. Fly fishing is about to get even more painful…
Stay tuned and thanks for watching.
"Eeevil"...
Exactly! Thanks for watching.