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Sony A7S III vs Panasonic G9: Closer Than You Think?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ย. 2020
- Let's battle the Sony A7S III vs the little Panasonic G9. Has Sony finally caught up to all the specs of the micro four thirds cameras in a full frame body that barely weighs more than the G9? Is the stabilization comparable? Can the Panasonic Pony of Hope autofocus keep up? Slow motion? Does M4/3 have ANY advantages?
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please make this work on .ca too for eskimos
I would love that g9 hobo canadian youtuber here.
Love your channels I littlerally have watched every episode on both. :) how I start my day every morning
What adapter cable are you using to plug the microphone directly to the camera?
@@mcbowler I believe in a previous episode he was saying he is recording separately to a recorder.
@@CoryBaldwin85 in this one you can see he switched audio recording from A7s to g9
Was watching this on my lounge room TV and my girlfriend walked past and asked ‘Are you watching the squirrel guy again?’
Pany is more pleasant for colours and stabilisation, I prefer it.
I was going to say the same thing.
Looks like a GoPro
@@LUITESLIFE I think the shots that were HLG3 on both were very close. When he switched to slog3 something went wrong.
@@LUITESLIFE Well I am viewing it on a calibrated monitor, but personal preference is a big factor of course.
@@colin-4794 That means nothing, because youtube is not calibrated to your monitor's standards and is low bitrate and not to mention there are variations between the host file and what is uploaded to youtube. My videos are exported at 100mbps but youtube only displays them at 40.
The corners shake on the panny, but the WHOLE IMAGE shakes on the Sony
And panny, was 24mm Vs sony 28mm
The G9 for the price is just unbeatable man. 4 years old camera and it still trades punches with new cameras waay above its weight.
Yup! G9 is one of the rare cameras where sales numbers have gone up over time, and that is because people have slowly discovered how good it is. Kasey thinks the G9 doesn’t have any great advantages. That might be true if the only thing the camera is used for is vlogging, but there is a long list of things the G9 can do that the Sony can’t do.
G9 is my favourite camera ever
me too
I've had tons of cameras over the years, and recently added a Sony A7III and Olympus EM5.3, but the G9 is still by far the best photographic tool I've used. Yes, the Sony can produce better results in difficult cases, but the Panasonic is just so much nicer to use.
is good for Autofocus to youtube videos ?
@@tamernader with enough light yes. In low light not
ok thank you for replying :)
For the price of the G9 compared to the A7S iii.
That G9 is slayin' big time.
I think colors look bad tho
for the price my S20 ulra is the best
@@CiesAlbertvideo I actually much preferred the colors of the G9 over the Sony's lol
@@Simmiffy more saturated is not better tho
@@felixlechat1780 lol paid my s10 new from koodo for 210$ 4k 60 hdr10+ video for dirt cheap
Kasey's autofocus test should become industry standard.
I just bought the G9 with the Leica 12-60 so happy!
great choice, you are gonna love it.
@@cloudcitydigital Thank you! I love it already! It checks all the marks what i didn´t like on my previous cam (M50)
@@MinimalWave1982 you just bought the best camera+lens on the market in terms of value per $. Good job. Now go make a movie!
@@charbax Thank you! I swapped the Leica 12-60 against the Sigma 16 mm and 56 mm as the Leica hasn´t a fast aperture.
I am just about to pull the trigger on the same. Just wondering about the lens...
One thing that really stood out to me in the autofocus test was essentially zero focus breathing on the G9, it looks a ton better when you leave the shot but framing stays the same.
As a nature interpreter and camera lover I must say that today's episode was aiming straight for my heart ❤️ the G9 cost 1/5th of the A7SIII where I live , and that's a biggy 😁
Based on this video I would go G9, the autofocus was completely fine, I quite like the tasteful slower focus. I didn't see much if any pulsing at all. You've got a well-exposed Sky in the G9, a7s3 seemed to overexpose most of the time. G9 and leftover cash for a load of nice lenses. Magical.... Unless you're set on that Full Frame benefit... Next vid S5 vs A7SIII please sir :P
@IM HO But if the S5 holds a torch or surpasses the A7iii as the G9 does, it can help allot of people save some money. The A7SIII and S1H are more than most will ever need.
Some beautiful squirrel footage right there!
You're the only youtuber i actually wait for daily, you bring a smile to my face every day
Cant afford an A7sIII?... Buy a G9 its that simple.
G9 holds the sky better, exposes the skin better, the IBIS is still better in regular use IMO, and its MUCH better for static shots with IS LOCK engaged.
Colours are subjective, but I prefer the G9 here too.
Add the fact the G9 controls and ergonomics are market leading, and regardless of price there's still plenty of reason to choose the G9 over the A7Siii.
I still don't like shallow depth of field for a vlog. I'd 100% rather watch the G9 footage in your videos than the A7Siii.
Totally agree. 👍
sir you deserve a beer !
i agree 100%
@Little Idols sure Pana autofocus is pretty bad, on G9 it's the least bad in their m43 thus far. For anything that's not amateurish, you probably need to learn to manual focus on the Pana. I don't think you can use the A7Siii handheld for anything that is not amateurish. If you want to use A7Siii for your professional looking short films, you must use a gimball for sure.
Agree. G9 is a top camera with a small price.
I hope some lens manufacturer make a 10mm lens that is a size of the Leica 15mm and that would be fantastic for the G9
Panasonic 9mm f1.7 is here
The G9 is better value for money, and its true rival from Sony would be the A9. Also its autofocus was just fine, better than the R5 and R6 in your tests! TBH watching this I preferred the G9 thoughout, which was unexpected.
My GH5 tracks mongoose really well even with my Leica 100-400mm handheld. Those things are more squirrely than actual squirrles.
g9 much better than I expected, pretty close and so much cheaper...
G9 destroyed Sony in quite a few shot. Amazing!
That G9 focussed hard today! From someone that’s got an A7Siii preordered I quite liked the image from G9! Just goes to show, cameras are so good now that you’re just literally splitting hairs when you take into consideration all the pros/cons of each.
Both performed pretty good! Even the Panasonic Autofocus was okay 👍🏻
I dunno bro the G9 color looks better on my fancy tv. Might be the grade?
Yeah it’s the grade
Full disclosure: G9 owner here. I was expecting the A7S3 to crush the G9 on all disciplines. For some reason the G9 battled WAY better than I expected. I know you dont like the Panas color, but I have to say: they were more natural, the Sony was too warm, too yellowish. The biggest surprise was in the dynamic range. Sony burnt 95% of all cloud shots, whereas the G9 at least resolved 50% of the clouds in the background. And I'm being conservative on that figure. True, wideangle IBIS makes the G9 corners wave at you, could fore sure be better. But the Sonys stab wasnt exactly good either, every step of yours (even the very slow and soft ones) produced a small bump in the footage. Toneh obviously way better on the Sony, for sure really beautiful. As is autofocus. G9 was surprisingly alright, Sony nailed it every time. This AF accuracy and reliability(!!) is just wonderful.
You are absolutely right to ask for the G9s unique M43 strengths, that apply to your vlogging style. There are none. M43 is neither light nor cheap nor small anymore. Its advantage is, and will always be, the telephoto range extension by factor two. Without any sacrifice in the wide and ultrawide angle department. Since you dont need any of that telephoto range advantage for vlogging I see why you dont benefit from the M43 anymore. Thanks for reviving the good ole' G9 once again, it did good, surprisingly good, overall.
G9 owner here as well and gotta say: If I had to choose a camera just by seeing this test, it would be G9 hands down. So much better colors, so much more natural look. Used to own a Sony A7 SII and really hated the menu system and the terrible LOGs which now both should have been improved. But those colors, man....looked very Fuji like!
Holy crap, what happened Sony, win goes to Pani.
he didn't put the demon lut, that's why it lost
User error
I just realized we haven’t talked about warpy shit in a LONG time 😮 Sony has saved us all.
G9 is great... still an amazing camera! Is too good!
BEST SQUIRREL FOOTAGE ON TH-cam! Thank you sir.
Fact its even close amazes me.
New Intro Song:
"all I want is a G9 cameraaaaaa "
"all I want is the G9 Cameraaaaaaaaaaaa"
Make the intro 2 seconds longer for an extra line at the end: "With better AF". Then it is perfect
well sony ibis is not really fixed imo, even with digital on it looks very robotic and not very pleasing (warpy shit is very bad too on the paniboi)
The G9 has great dynamic range wow!
Such an underated camera! From 2017!!
this.
That’s what I want to say... is just amazing!
The Pani strikes back
Kasey, the “Squirrel Whisperer”...
I prefer the image coming out of the G9.
When you factor in the multiples of price difference for the camera + lenses, it would be hard to choose Sony.
I think the squirrels recognize you as "organic Hazelnut Guy" lol. Great footage.Good Content.
I own 3 G9s for wedding videos. My wife owns a sony a7iii for her photography. For video I'd never get rid of the g9s. Even for photo the quality is nice. The price of the g9s is unbeatable
If panasonic would just get it's autofocus up to snuff they'd make a killing.
The amount of toneh in the Sony was distracting for me. My eyes are drawn back and forth from the face and the blurred background. The Pana's toneh seems more natural, it's easier for my eyes to find the face since the background isn't so eye-catching.
4:37 the G9 looks like it has better or equal dynamic range. The whites are blown on the Sony, and even though the G9 is a little more under, the shadows aren't wildly less detailed.
4:41 what are the colours right now? Are the leaves yellow or are the leaves orange? Who got that correct? It's like the special Olympics of colour science here.
Squirrels in America will never let u get that close lol 😂
I live in Toronto, millions of squirrels here. Most are somewhat afraid of people but people feed them so some of them learn to beg for food.
Yep, they just yell and throw things at you here. Even our squirrels are meaner!
Squirrels in Canada are more polite, eh?
He's one of them! 😂
TRUTH!! lol I couldn't BELIEVE that squirrel was just sitting there wow!!
Telephoto is one place Micro Four Thirds shines. 2x crop, also, in a way, means 2x zoom.
The better stabilization on a telephoto lens is ultra important, the slightest movement can create quite a shake of the image when out at 300mm (eq) or more.
During the stabilization comparison the on the harsh walk, i would argue the Sony looked as of there was no stabilization, whole frame wobbling all over. The g9, you were smooth and there was definitely wobbly corners.
The thing is, the g9 wobble corners are only on the widest of field of view, come in just a tad, now you have a full stabile frame, and the sony isnt even close now, and I'd argue this is based on sensor size alone, as the actual sensor moving will probably always be more noticeable, the bigger the sensor.... Physics.
I really don't like the Sony cameras I've used, but its been a while, and I am a complete Micro 4/3 fanboy, Olympus, more than Panasonic actually.....
The one thing I can say specifically about both Panasonic and Sony that are nice, is both companies do a fairly good job, offering the camera people want, for a fair price, when you buy a budget Sony or Panyboy, you get a decent camera, albeit some compromises to the top model, whereas the other companies do really good jobs offering multiple crap cameras, that force you into top tier price range.
Yeah, th4 Fuji looks more stable but it warps like crazy
"Camera conspiracies" is pure art. I fear I have already become addicted. Thank you for your extraordinary work.
That blurred horse t-shirt hahahaha
Has anyone else noticed more squirrel activity in the background since Kasey’s vlog started featuring them? Coincidence?
The Lumix G9 was an incredible solid performer. Looks like your test was done prior to the releases of the firmware versions 2.4 and 2.5 (released in June and November 2021) so I cannot imagine how the gap will be now after all the great improvements done by Panasonic. Excellent comparison an happy that I will buy a G9 as it is the best value/performance camera in the market. All the best!
How does this not have all the likes? I keep finding ways to get that "let's upgrade" out of my mind. Thank you :)
I have the G9 and G85, don't know bro but I love Lumix. I got the G85 because of your channel, from back in your G85 days. Out of all the cameras you talked about the G85 just seem to out do them. So I've stayed with Lumix! I have a M50 but don't judge me hahahahaha.
Come for the camera reviews. Stay for the B-roll dubstep. 🎶
The Sony is better, but it's not $5000 better. I could make do with the Panny and take a trip to Hawaii with the money saved.
Exactly.. it's a shitload of cash unless you make a living from shooting video. Save the money and have a vaca.
And 20mp stills.
@@robmulally Seriously, the 12MP photo res is pretty big negative for me vs. say R6 or even R5
The Sony is $2,300 more than the Panasonic G9. Where do you get $5,000 from?
@@StarshipGhost about $4k in AUD
In what planet is the Sony ibis even in the lame active stabilization crop mode as good as the Panasonic ? Sony ibis is the worst. This is the advantage of smaller sensors.
It has way less wobbly corners.
The wobbly corners are really distracting. Yes the sony has a little shake but the image isn't warped, much better, much less distracting.
less wobbly corners much better for post stabilization
@@cameraconspiracies I think you mean character it has less character. 😆 🖤
I'm so impressed with the Panny. Before watching this I was longing for the Sony. Not any longer. So much money.
I feel when price comes into thought it a no brainer. Sony is amazing for what it is but the 3x jump in price isn't worth the slight difference the average viewer will notice. Camera C should stay with the Sony since he's got it but for beginners like me, the g9 is a no brainer
on the wide ibis sucks on both, pani is exposing darker but man the dynamic range... want clouds? forget about the sony a7siii and use 3 G9s.... crazy
if i were a vlogging squirrel, i would take the G9 all day (perfect toneh - for squirrels)
The Sony IBIS is still worse, the image quality is surprisingly similar and the exposure better on the Panny. And why does the Sony always look so contrasty? It's kinda weird. It just looks less detailed with the super high contrast.
Panny wins here!
Hmmm, Panasonic didn’t exactly trigger me in the worst ways like it usually does. Even if it would have, the squirrel / music content would’ve healed me. Outstanding video!
The new track gave me really funny feelings in my stummy, cc could we get an album full of these type of songs please.
You're peaking, bring the Chelsea down to 100
for the sake of vlogging your original g85 was fine in the first place
G9 wins the “pointing camera back at me” competition. This is quality content !
Man the G9 is holding up so great for under 1k $ it's a steal
I cant believe active IBIS works on the a7siii with the laowa bro, it looks so good
The G9 looks better in almost all the shots which is amazing considering it's small sensor and lower price.
I want a Panasonic g9 pony of hope now
I think the Pani lens was nearly as heavy because you were needing to get a stop or two faster lenses on the mft system for the dof.
G9 always perform better when it detects a competitor. 😁 That pony at the end... LOL
I just bought a G9 last month!! Good deal, already got 7 lenses and man can it take pictures!
Ahh, awesome as usual. So worth staying till the end and the Pani poneh.
Another example for Full-Looser-Frame and Micro-Four-Winner-Thirds. Better colours at the G9 and the Sony doesn't offer any advantages which would justfy the higer price.
The only thing you've improved on in the life of this channel is your squirrel content... admittedly, it's pretty fantastic. i dare say best squirrel footage anywhere
a7s3 active stabilization didn't do well today
There is more TONEH on the SONEH! HAHA! G9 Wins though just because I have the GH5! ;)
It just goes to prove that just because it’s more money doesn’t mean it’s better .I have the G9 and the GH5 they both shoot awesome 4K ..
I have a GH5 with the Leica 8-18 and the 12-60 f2.8
All I need.
Some very valid tests you just don't get on other channels. I just bought a G9 today, so I could put my Pano-Leica 100-400 lens on it. It's so small yet it has so much zoomage power.
This video was a pleasure to watch. Both cameras performed well and I liked the different filming angles set up at the end.
"What are you in prison for?" "I fed a squirrel."
is it really illegal to feed them? and why?
@@R0XyM0h The truce of 1874 betwixt the Canadian Provincial Forces and the Army of The Black Squirrel stated that squirrels could reside in the cities, but must not take public assistance.
Not as bad as misgendering a squirrel..
@@R0XyM0h How many videos did he video himself. Feeding squirrels?
I'm here for the squirrels 🤣
They are both excellent cameras. I don't see enough difference to justify the price difference. Vlog with Leeming Lut is excellent on the G9. Autofocus on the G9 is absolutely fine. I agree the wide laiwa lens isn't good on the G9 (for moving type video like you shoot). I don't understand your comment about the lack of lenses for G9. There are so many lens options available.
I think he means lack of good wide angle lens. Most aren't fast or most a zooms
@@voltvisuals ah, yes, that's true. (Although I don't think they need to be very fast. I'm not keen on the background being too out of focus, but I know Kasey does 🙂)
The contrast is a bit harsh on the Sony, but the Sony is just better looking.
I want to see a rom-com of just two cameras looking at each other.
Now -- the smaller toneh factor of the G9 in the slo-mo road crossing actually helps to show the vehicle rapidly approaching and aiming to run you down....
Honestly while the G9 was annoying to watch, I was still able to focus on you much more easily than with the Sony where the entire frame kept jumping.
The size advantage of micro 4/3 only works as long as you don't bring "equivalency" to the table, and accept a less shallow DOF. For example, the Olympus 12mm f2.0 is a very small and light lens. Or the Panasonic 15mm f1.7. To me, trying to get very fast lenses on micro43 is nonsense, as you can get cheaper and maybe even smaller alternatives in full frame.
You've convinced many of us that our G9's are good enough. Too bad. No Sony money truck for you. :(
Caleb from DSLR video shooter just asked on Twitter if anyone can send him Slog footage where the yellows or greens are out of whack. He says he working on a solution.
Hey bro hope you are well. Sorry we haven't been able to visit you for a while we were in Bulgaria then Malta were we got stuck due to Covid. But great to catch up with you again. We really want the Sony zv1, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us really appreciate it. Stay safe and catch up again real soon bro.
Idk Kasey. G9 looks like it won here. Great grade on it btw
After all that, IMHO the Pany has better color overall and it's just better cost/benefit wise. Every time I have bought something form Sony, I ultimately regret it.
We all are rooting for the G9 and secretly wishing we had 5k to buy the A7S3 just for video
are you using an equivalent aperature size though ? its an important factor as an equivalent aperture would let in more light and the panny would expose diferentyly/better. Someone did this on the tube, cant remember who but it showed that the panny with a proper equivalent aperature actually performed as good if not better in low light in some situations. This is why mft lenses can be found at 0.95
I'm not sure who won, but "Stool Samples"? That was great. You're a funny dude.
All Hail the King Of Squirrels!
The G9 is sooooo good! The A7S has so much yellow, it’s changing the color of the black coat. It looks good but the Panasonic is much more accurate with colors!
I love my G9.
I'm in the video world and been with micro four loosers for a long time now. Never used a m43 lens.
You have some big juicy squirrels up there man! Down here in North Carolina we have skinny ass tree rats. Great video. Subscribed...
Lens advantage in M43 begins to kick in at telephoto end, tbh. Try Panasonic 100-400 against a full frame 200-800 equiv (even if you can find one!), the size advantage is immediately obvious.
The G9 is selling for £720 on eBay now, the A7S III is £3,800 - and to me at least, the colours on the Panasonic are more pleasing out of camera, the stabilisation is better and for similar Bokeh, the system is significantly smaller/lighter - at 1/5th of the price (!!!). Shouldn't the Sony be better at the price difference? -- With that said, I bought an X-T3 recently which has no stabilisation :D
You're a character, actually enjoyed your review! Keep it up!
Goes out of focus... then says "i'm lost" while wearing the pony boi shirt! LOL In the opening A7S warmed my heart. After you swapped lenses it was shattered by reptilian yellow scales of death. Anonymous competitor LaughZZZZZ hard. This is still good content.
The fact that the G9 is two years older and significantly cheaper, yet still on par with the Sony should be enough to make it the clear winner. Not to mention embarrassing as hell to Sony.
User error. The sonynis obviously much better