Panasonic Lumix G9 II: I Was WRONG!
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I love the M43 system. I have an EM1 Mark III with Pro lenes. I sell my work on line and at galleries and have never had a buyer say "oh, I'm not buying your work because it wasn't shot with a FF camera".
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I’ve had many full frame systems and when I scroll through my own photos over the years I can’t tell which was G9 or Olympus or Nikon or Canon or Fuji.
I'm mainly into my wildlife photography so i love m43 and also it suits me because I can afford the pro lenses.
I was going to get a Sony full frame camera but to get the best from it you have to spend some eye watering money on glass.
@@letni9506I I almost went with Sony, too. Then the OM-1 came out. I'd been waiting for Panasonic to release a replacement for the G9, but year after year passed, so I gave up. I'm glad I stayed with M43 because I've been able to build my lens collection up. It's far less expensive than FF in general, and quite sharp. Though the 150-400 is incredibly expensive. Granted, the equivalent in FF doesn't even exist. I suppose that's why they think they can ask such a premium for it.
Same. GH5 and G9.
I’m a former newspaper photographer (in a past life - I am 70 now). I have used a GH5 for 4 years to shoot video for my business. A GH4 prior to that. I also have a Nikon D850 with all the requisite expensive lenses. And a Nikon D500 for wildlife. After watching your video I will be purchasing the G9II for video and stills as I get more and more tired of packing the D850 around. I will save the Nikon for tripod-mounted studio work and possibly landscape. But I think M43 is highly underrated, especially as we get older. It’s simply easier to grab and go. Thanks for your sense of humor and great content. Jim in Oregon
Thanks for sharing, Jim - makes sense to me!
Such a wonderfully rounded system, Panasonic colours are criminally underrated.
This is very true, I found out recently that the legendary Nikon D700 is a panasonic sensor :)
And they look better than ever to me in the G9II!
Fhotografers don't understand they're image making TOOLS.
Tools 🔧 🔨 are built to do different jobs.
Manufacturers can build different amplifiers.
Amplifiers ARE tools 🔧
You're buying a TOOL KIT.
The amplifiers are all unique in your cameras.
Photographers buy tool 🔧 kits.
You guys have no idea you're buying an image capturing tool kit.
Full set of various amplifiers built into cameras.
@@Gma7788 you lost me with the last two sentences.
It's great that Panasonic finally caught up. Olympus was there years ago with cameras (OM-5, OM-1) with these features and ergonomics years ago, with great glass too. I'm happy for Pana, but Oly has already been here and done that, really well.
That camera with the GODLY (for the cost vs performance + close focus distance) M43 Sigma 16mm F1.4 - will be absolute magic
Always a joyful experience watching your video Hugh! Congrats on reaching 100k!
I have come to love Micro 4/3, or as I like to think of it, digital half frame. You are so right by the way, a GX8ii or GX9ii would be just what a lot of us are dreaming of. Personally, I have never found the need to go for the Leica branded M4/3 lenses. Olympus M. Digital Zuiko Premium primes and Panasonic G primes are small, light weight and sharp at a price point where I find the value for money to be just right for my needs.
my 45-200 entry level zoom produces terrific images, can be had very cheaply, is super light and makes a great travel companion. I have some of the Leica glass which is really great, of course, but......even the cheap stuff Panasonic sells have been very good to me.
@@bradmiller9993likewise my Olympus 75-300 is remarkable and sharp even at 600mm FF eq...❤
Panasonic has the most INSANE combo on their hands right now. S5II + G9II has literally no rivals, especially at sub 4k for both bodies. IN-SANE.
Unless I misinterpreted your earlier point, it is my understanding that the f stop with mft is not doubled vs full frame. The DOF equivalent is but not the amount of light being let in. A light meter would not know the difference so f2.8 is not 5.6 but 2.8 on both formats.
Well, yes but also no.
the f-stop number is just the ratio between the focal length and the aperture (actually the entrance pupil) of a lens. And photographers like that number because the projected image will always give (letting transmission aside; see t-stops) the same brightness. That means for all formats and focal length you can use a light meter to determine the right exposure for a given film speed. But brightness is not the same as amount of light. If you just use a smaller portion of the projected image, let's say half the image cicle, quarter the image area, you get a quarter of the amount of light at the same brightness.
The 2.8 light gathering is the same on any format, the only thing that changes is the depth of field. So an a M43 lens a 2.8 lens will gather the same amount of light as a full frame 2.8 lens but the depth of field is more like 5.6 on a full frame.
I've recently switched from Canon full frame to the OM-1 and absolutely love the M4/3 ecosystem. I shoot mostly macro, which has the obvious benefits of the extra DOF that comes with M4/3. But, I have also started shooting landscapes again and have been pleasantly surprised by the dynamic range that the OM-1 gives me. Add to that that it's just so much easier to take the camera out and shoot, meaning that it's not such a chore to pick up my bag and head out.
Did you notice any loss of shutter speed when switching to mft? I use mft and can upgrade to the g9ii or get the canon R8. My thinking is I will get a bit more shutter speed but reduced reach, however I don't know anyone that has had the 2 systems to ask.
When I saw this camera I was immediately sold hands down
Never thought I would say this: I shoot canon apsc since over 6 years. I do mainly video and lots of product macro video. That’s the reason why I stick mainly to apsc.
I did check out before Panasonic but stayed away because of the autofocus…
Seeing the lens selection, the new autofocus, the colours… well, this could work for me. Thanks for this review, really appreciate it a lot 👍🏻
Happy to be of service. 😊🖖🏻
Great video. It's nice to see someone extoll the virtues of an M4/3 camera instead of complaining about what it can't do. Now if Panasonic would just come out with new rangefinder-styled camera.
I love my Fujifilm cameras (and will continue to use them) BUT...early this year, I tried a Lumix 4/3 camera. I did so for the smaller size of the camera and lenses, but also because many of the older Lumix 4/3 cameras had generous discounts to their prices (lenses, too). I was so pleased with the first camera I bought (GX85), that I also bought a G95...and finally, a G9. These cameras are amazing...their menu system and touch screen implementation are the best I've used. Although they may be a bit short on megapixels, the image quality is still quite excellent and usable. I recently went to an indoor car show which had rather challenging lighting conditions: harsh overhead fluorescent lights, some daylight coming from an open garage door and very shiny and reflective surfaces on the cars themselves. All...ALL the shots I took with the G9 were perfectly exposed and in focus. They all look great. Can't wait to try the G9 II...and perhaps trade up. Yes, I am now a Micro Four Thirds fan.
Да , после g9 не хочется брать другую камеру .
how’d you like the g95? dont find a lot written up on it
GX9II next please... or a GX95? 😊
I had a GX7 and a GX85 and they were my Hybrid workhorses for years. The rangefinder style form factor is just perfect for my kind of work. :❤️
I wish we could have a GX95 with weather sealing and phase AF. Also some more pro lenses or upgraded versions with manual focus like Olympus.
Thank you again for your review. Appreciate your honest candor.
Awesome, Hugh! Thanks for your swift review!
My pleasure!
i love your vids. always interesting presentation with a passion for shooting and style.
There hasn’t been a bad camera or lens made in quite some time and this camera is no exception. The technological leaps are astounding and I can’t wait to see what happens when ai is fully incorporated into af and processing. It’s going to be a fun ride going forward.
I would have like to see a comparison against the OMDS OM-1. One of the key differences between them are the sensors, OMDS went with speed compared to Panasonic with megapixels. - How does this affect rolling shutter? Also the OM-1 has a locked dial where as the new G9.m2 does not.
This is what I'd like to see. I bought an OM-1 earlier this year because I'd given up waiting for the G9ii - but I really liked the ergonomics/menu of the G9 more than the OM-1 (had to bite the bullet to get the AF and IQ). Now I'm going to have to go home and try the AF test in video he ran in this video and see how it goes. :)
@@andrewblackburn1426I've upgraded from oly E5 3/4 to mmf OM1 . To oly users the menu is intuitive, just better. This has enhanced my experience as i already know the basics.
Thanks for a very comprehensive and helpful review.I am going to change my G9 to the new mark2 .A huge step ahead,finally, with all the features that I have been expecting.
Enjoy!
Great camera. However, wake me when they give us a new GX or GM...
That 100-400 lens is amaaazing. I had the old one, and I think it's still my favourite tele zoom ever made. This new G9 makes me wanna go back to micro four thirds for nature photography😁
I hear you!
I can already shoot handheld with the 100-400 with my original G9 and get razor-sharp focus on a bird in flight, but many shots are out-of-focus too. From what I hear, the G9 ii will get all of them in focus, which is really exciting!
@@mediamannaman I'd say the auto focus will be the biggest improvement from the old one. The image quality was already great!
What I love about it is the fact the 100-400 is an effective 200-800 on a mft camera. So not only are the cameras themselves excellent and full featured but you get an insane focal range at a fraction of the cost and weight of a full frame equivalent.
Nikon Z?
Sold! I'll be picking one of these up for sure (unless a GX9 II comes out soon with similar features).
I look forward to that. Panasonic please listen to me. Please add an audio in jack for the GX9 Mii please.
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Thank you for your fantastic summary!
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So I still love my G9 despite the AF limitations. I gather you haven't tried the OM-1, which delivers reliable phase-detect AF and great IS performance. I prefer the Lumix interface and I'm excited to see what else the G9 II offers, but OM Systems has been making the case for MFT's viability while Panasonic seemed to be relegating it to hybrid video-centrism. I'd love to dump my Nikon Z6 and optics and get the S5 II and the G9 II. The idea of not having to rethink operating a full frame and compact system when choosing between formats really appeals. Economics bring me back to Earth, however.
Thanks for the video. Well thought out and put together. I have noticed that the cameras since the G85 are now much larger. The m4/3 cameras were smaller because the senor is smaller. Now this camera is slightly bigger that the Sony A7iv and the same weight. (Noted, the lenses will be smaller for the G9, for the same coverage)
Since you are using the G9 for recording, I have noticed that the background gets lighter and darker. Is that the camera adjusting the exposure as you move you head left/right or is there changes in ambient/background light?
I love the style, feel and content of your channel, giving unbiased reviews! I was thinking of upgrading to Sony from a G9, but will now save a load of money by buying the G9ii and use my existing lenses. Thank you Hugh! 😀
Enjoy!
I'm surprised you didn't use the 100MP photo's available handheld for the Chrysler building. Great video as usual
Telephoto pushes handheld multishot to (beyond) its limits, as you can see on 10:06 - 10:10
Just so.
Outstanding. I bought the g9 II last week and it is a blast! Great video
Nicely done and really enjoyed your closing at around 19:00. Like you would love to see similar features back in a smaller range finder style camera. Sony’s A7C II is a good example, but priced about $400 more here in Canada. The A6700 is priced about $700 less than the G9ii. Neither probably the choice however if big zooms are needed, but otherwise an option.
15:00 I shoot all my professional portraits with the GX9 and G9 and they usually come up better than with the Nikon FX D4S. I slightly over expose The GX9 (0.3EV) and use reflectors.
Combined with either the 42.5 1.7, and sigma 56mm 1.4 the images are extremely sharpe and the bokeh looks fantastic. The great thing with Micro 43 is that the images never fail, my D4S on the other hand loses sometimes focus, has to be set between F4 and F5.6 anyways to get the full face sharp, and has lots of WB variations
Honestly, at 12:00 and 12:18 I did the same thing, too. And yeah, a rangefinder-styled camera sure would be nice, because I'm hugely uninspired by most cameras these days. That might do the trick for me AND I could use that wide library of lenses on that rig.
Been using panasonic for years & love the 12-35 DG, it is so spectacular. Also worth noting the access to the Olympus glass is a big benefit, I actually think Olympus has a slightly more pleasing colour in some cases, the 60mm macro is a gem, & the 45mm 1.8 is small, cheap & brilliant. The main reason I am thrilled to see the G9 II release is so I can get a better deal on the G9 in the near future which are already around the 400 pound mark :)
I own the G9 and use the 100-400 most days for wildlife, the built in teleconverter gives me 1800mm equivalent in video mode I love it, only 2 things I don’t like about the G9 ii is no top lcd screen and different battery so I won’t be rushing to upgrade just yet,
Great music in the video. And I was wondering what else you can pick up from your table for the focus test.
As a gh4 and gh5 user, this camera looks amazing
and we’re M4/3 back!!! Woohoo!
Wow, now everybody have Amazing autofocus and is so wonderful for us customers!
Great camera! Will need to wait for about 1 year before buying for prices to go down, and for firmware updates and fixes.
Panasonic keeping M43 not only relevant, but a great choice for professional video on a tight budget. Anyone who bravely chose the GH series in the 2010s should be happy if and when they upgrade to the G9 II.
Do you think it would be worth m43 coming out with some 1:1 size sensors? It would give a DOF punch as well as a quick way to give m43 a giant boost in attention. Seems so simple and I’d love to not have to rotate the camera for portraits! Plus imagine open gate video! Being able to crop in post however they want for social media vertical or horizontal with no drawbacks. Could you make a video about this? I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately haha.
Those three words, and your consequent review have lifted my heart. I started out on the m43 format with GH2, then GH4, and was then lured into full frame Sony. As well as a travel/on the road camera, one of my passions is bird photography/videography, and up here in the west coast of Scotland it’s nirvana for wildlife. I have an A7R3, and my longest lens is a Canon L 70-300 with metabones adaptor, I’ve been dreaming about the 200-600 or 100-400 G master but vault at price and size of the longer lens, so the idea of the Panny 100-400 (ie 200-800) in combo with G9II is very exciting. Thanks Hugh x
Happy to be of service. 😊🖖🏻
Thanks again. *baulk*, not vault 🙄@@3BMEP
@@MikeLindup42 I knew what you meant 😊 “balk”
Thanks Hugh, I think this is the most helpful real world review of the G9ii so far. I shoot stills on a Sony FF with relatively compact lenses and Lumix M43 with a G80/85 and the tiny non pro lenses for lightweight fun. I am not sure that I am ready to go for pro level M43 although those images of yours are very impressive!
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Outstanding review !!!! You are a outstanding narrator!!!!!!
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Good video, as usual. How would you say this compares to the OM-1, or have you had a chance to shoot with that?
Olympus has never followed through in getting gear to me for review, so I finally gave up trying.
Yes, like you said, a rangefinder format would be the sweetest, even if it meant some sacrifices.
Happy to see Micro Four Thirds having a very good camera again (albeit the OM-1 is no slouch either). Started in photography with a GH2, and used a lot of m43 cameras. But...I saw both Panasonic and OM Digital making m43 a niche format. Video centric in Panasonic, wildlife and adventure in OM Digital. And I always was (and still am) a "midrange" body guy. Loved mine GX7, GX85 and GX9.
But I could not see, and still can´t, see Panasonic doing a GX camera with the G9II internals. Probably the next one will be the GH7.
Possible? Oh, yes, it is. I have the X-S20, with a larger sensor (hence a larger IBIS), and a battery as big as the G9II - and, EVF bump aside, have the same size of the GX9. And with 6.2k 10-bit 4:2:2 video.
Then the lenses - the smaller total package was what the most important thing to me. Less bulk, less weight, amazing for travelling (my last big trip, prior to covid, was with the GX9, the lovely 12-32 zoom, the understated 45-175mm zoom, the 42.5 f/1.7, and a Rokinon 12mm f/2 - all in a messenger bag, never felt the need for anything else). But all the newer m43 lenses are big and heavy - the Panasonic 1.7 zooms, the Om Digital Pro lenses. In fact, the Panasonic 12-35 f/2.8 is a little bigger and heavier than the Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 for Fuji; ok, it is wider and have OIS, but the Sigma alllows to shallower depth of field, higher ISO advantage because of the bigger sensor, and is 250 dollars cheaper, even being a APS-C lens...
In fact, the Sigma should be the blueprint for newer m43 lenses - m43 IBIS is amazing, ditch the OIS, and make smaller and cheaper lenses, with good optical performance. Or make OIS-less zooms with 1.8 aperture.
But I don't see Panasonic investing too much in newer lenses. And OM Digital are making them bigger.
Still hoping a GX10 to maybe come back to the system. But...i guess that will never happen.
Thanks for such a thoughtful contribution to the conversation.
I have used a g9 with the 100-400 pana-Leica Tele Elmar, but have been disappointed by the poor selectivity of the AF system when following a bird in bare tree foliage. Did you evaluate a set up that would allow evaluation of that sort of situation?
I've been sitting pat on my G9 and GH5ii despite the temptation of the s5IIX, awaiting this or any M43 camera with PDAF. Automatic preorder for me(8 M43 lenses). Phenomenal review Hugh
Thank you - and enjoy!😊🖖🏻
I can't figure out which is better the Panasonic or the Olympus OM
Thank you for the review and especially for the note about g9II in more compact body. Oh God, I spend a year with GX9 and it such a great compact camera paired with 14-140 is just perfect setup for EDC or travel, but it's already 5-6 years old, I wish it was updated and with weather sealing.
There aren't any record limits and Panasonic MFT has the second widest lens selection out there. Probably the most once you include Olympus. You can also adapt EF and the old Nikon lenses with or without a speedbooster.
If you want the maximum stabilization for Panasonic or Olympus you have to use same-brand OIS lenses, sadly. I hate that the MFT standard has been compromised in that respect.
This was tremendously helpful for us. We were honestly planning to switch to Sony from our Lumix GH6 due to the terrible AF, but now thinking we'll save the coin, stay in the MFT environment, and spend the $5k savings on some audio eq, big lens, and more travel!
Love M43! Love Lumix! I want to be Lumix Ambassador! Wonderful analysis!
Thank you for this video. I'm really sold on this G9 II and all its lenses mentioned in this video. I'm impressed with the auto focus on the 12-35mm lens. The 100-400mm lens will do great for my reference photos of wildlife for my paintings. 🎨 🖌 I'm aware from other reviewers the 100-400 lens sticks a bit.
I have and old GH4 which still does a terrific job of 4K. But it's old and so I was thinking of upgrading to Nikon. Now, I'll just hold onto the GH4, buy the G9ii and use them as primary/backup cams. Bonus - won't have to upgrade lenses!
I’ll have share some low light telephoto shots i took last week hand held with G9. I’m definitely doing upgrade to mkii
I've been shooting the OG9 for a couple of years now with the 100-400mm lens for birding and I think even that combo is highly underrated. However, given the mission of a light-weight alternative, I wonder if either OM Systems or Lumix has ever considered a mirror telephoto lens not only for light weight but for their ability to blur backgrounds? I do hope to buy the G9 Mark 2 but I will definitely be hanging onto my OG9. I enjoyed your review.
As a wildlife still shooter, primarily, if the dynamic range is too great, I'll often just lean into it. If birds are backlit and I can't get around to the sunny side(especially late in the day), I'll instead expose for the sunset and catch the birds as silhouettes
I shoot both MFT and FF. I do not have the G9 II and Panasonic 100-400 though but I have the EM1X + Olympus 100-400. to me MFT sensor is just a MFT sensor, the physical size of the sensor is always the main deciding factor on final image quality when against the 4 times bigger sensor, anyways I sold the 100-400 and never look back a second. I don't personally need 800mm equivalent FL that often so I am very happy to go back to my Nikon 300 PF , 500 PF and even occasionally the Sigma 150-600 Sport. since I don't crop much but use the " proper Focal Length " lens so it's very easy for me to tell the difference between the images captured with my FF systems and MFT system.
Thank you for the great video and commentary!!!
You said the G9 II would be good for some sports. Would you mind expanding on that thought?
The G9 II’s autofocus will only fall short when the photographer needs the very best AF in the market, and by that I mean Sony’s a9 III.
I am looking for the best hybrid system...would you go S5ii or G9ii and why...
I own a G9 and use it with the Pan Leica 12-60, Pan Leica 25, and Pan 100-300 when I am traveling. The system is so light and small I can travel with those 3 lenses+body in my peak design 45L pack plus have room for all my clothes, laptop etc. Sure I have a gap from 120-200mm FF equivalent but, I never find that limiting. My most recent trip to India produced absolutely superb images from architecture to wildlife. I couldn't imagine lugging my FF gear on that trip while having the same focal lengths. Sure, speed can be an issue but I can work around that. MFT is a great platform. With that being said, I am excited about the new features of the G9 II but, I think the body ergos took a major step back, no top screen display and locking mode dial are a miss in the II.
I've had my G9ii for a few weeks and am still trying to find my way around the menu. It's a powerful beast and so far, with the lens collection I have, I find it amazing. For me like the various movements "slow cooking" etc. I'm not in a hurry to get a photo. I have a iPhone, 5S, hate the photos but I don't think I'd ever by another phone just for the fact that it is "always there". For me, photography is a process. I like the walkabout, I'm not trying to make money, I could care less about my social media persona. I just want to take photos that are in focus and say something to me. Everybody else can think what they want.
Delightful! Thanks for sharing!
You may check “exposure compensation” in camera (exposure shifts)
Excellent !!!
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I've been rocking the GH5 for a few years now. Adore it. But it leaves me wishing for newer features. When the m2 came out, I kinda liked it, but still no dual ISO. The GH6 came out, and it was just a high ISO test thing. It did not apeal to me. So it had me looking at the new FF S5/ii. But that would mean extensive upgrades with lens. The G9 might squeak to my #1 all things considered. I really did not expect m43s to make a comback considering how good their FF cameras are.
Do you think the G9 II with 12-35 lens would be good for basic videos? I like the size factor here. APS-C cameras seem still kind of big considering they aren't full frame but have more lens options. micro 4/3 might be the format I've been looking for. Those photos look fanatic =) I used my D90 for ages but lately I'm mostly using my phone. Its just so convent.
Hi Hugh,
Great review, I'm still flying the colors of my GH5. Looks really interesting. Enjoyed your comments on dedicated cameras versus cellphone cameras.
Applying my experience as a musician, I'd compare it to the difference between hearing a concert with one of the "Top Five" orchestras in the States and all the others. They all sound great, but as a player, I will hear the differences that a laymen wouldn't.
As good as the cellphone cameras have become, a dedicated camera is better.
We're coming to New York in early January of 24.
Would be great to meet you.
Best regards from Stockholm
We have to get to Stockholm someday!
Excellent review, and fantastic music, as always.
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I’ve been enjoying Panasonic for years, a brilliant merging of computer and camera offering clever technology long before anyone else.
Hugh, did you get a chance to test the G9 II with our favorite M43 lens the 15mm PL Summilux 1.7? Looks to me like that could be a fantastic street photography camera.
Those 800mm FFeq shot comparison is crazy. G9II is amazing.
But the full frame cameras weren't at 800mm. So if was somewhat of an unfair comparison.
@@Bayonet1809 It's the end of the range of the each lens so it is fair. If you shot the Sony at 100mm and the Pani at 100mm and compared what you don't see in the pani as it would be 200mm FFeq that would be a fair limitation of the lens to discuss. Should there have been a both shot at 400mm FFeq to really gauge the images maybe, but you are still hand holding the Pani and tripod on the sony.
Maybe it's fairer to compare the 200-600 S ony than the 100-400 but it still loses at the long end.
It is a very fair comparison once one stops thinking the way we’re told to think and take the time to figure what WE want to think.
I love my OM-1 and G9. Very fun cameras to shoot with. You would have to put a 800mm lens on the Full Frame camera to truly have an equal comparison. A 400mm on m43 is giving you a 800mm with the 2x crop factor. ITs going to look better than heavily cropping the full frame 400mm lens to a similar field of view. I would argue the Full Frame with a 800mm lens would provide a noticeable jump in resolution and image quality, at a much higher cost though.
@@joshc717 correct. 👍🏻😊
As a fan and user of this system, I'm ecstatic there is a Lumix camera that can technically compete photographically with the OM-1 BUT! I'm a little peeved with two things about this camera.
First, I don't see this body physically as an upgrade to the G9. Maybe even a slight decrease. The G9 had such a unique look with wonderful ergonomics and functions that are missing, like a locking mode dial, a Top LCD screen, A perspective shifting EVF (which I'm shocked didn't get boosted to the 5.6 million dot EVF in the Pro-S bodies), a front mode toggle switch (more useful now as a true hybrid camera and proven with the R5C). In comparison, the S5 body platform feels more prosumer, and I miss the "I'm a professional camera, and I'm here to eat your 1DX mark ii for breakfast" attitude of the original G9.
Second, its relationship to the GH6, and no, it's not the autofocus ;). In almost all ways, these two cameras match each other in software features which for me is no big deal. It's not the first time this has happened in MFT. Both the G9 and GH5 had the same base video features and quality, with enough difference between the two to justify either camera. HOWEVER, here with the G9mkii and GH6 that is not the case. The G9mkii has a HUGE advantage with its image quality because of its implementation of Dynamic Range Boost. Looking back now, it's a little absurd that this new implementation isn't what we got with the GH6 at launch. 2000 base ISO for 13+ stops in the video is a big ask, but you're telling me you'd get it down to 500 ISO for use in your "photographer" camera? Some might argue that I shouldn't be surprised that a tech company improved its tech. Still, I'd say that with how close together these cameras were released, their unique positions as FLAGSHIPS, and the astronomical expectations for MFT system, on Lumix particularly, from the full-frame, phase-detect, 8k, and let's not forget SMARTPHONE dominated market, the GH line starts to feel half-baked. I really hope this can make its way into the GH6 so these systems can truly feel like similar, but distinct tools rather than replacements.
Thoughtful, thank you!
G9 had always been my favorite camera. I got a second S5ii recently but i should upgrade my G9 to the G9ii
It's a real shame that only one person I've seen so far do a quick-take of the G9.ii bothered to use lenses like the 15mm f1.7 and 42.5mm 1.2 Nocticron for stills. MFT can take incredible portraits and other shots that aren't just birds and other wild life at 400-800mm away. Using either an Olympus 25 or 45mm f1.2 you can get incredible shots with amazing smooth subject separation or corner to corner sharpness. Both for fairly cheap used, or even new, compared to comparable 50mm and ~90mm f1.2s in full frame (depth of field would be greater, but you're still getting f1.2 of light on the sensor). I'd rather shoot portraits on EM5iii or G9 over the bulky GFX gear I sold. If I truly need a larger sensor, I have a Pentax 645Z with a whole collection of 645 glass from old to recent. I had a GFX kit, but sold it off along with my Pentax k-1.ii because I never really used them over my EM5iii/G9 and KP.
With current sensor and processing technology, MFT and APS-C would already be more than enough for basically all tasks outside rare niches. The only reason we don't have an A9ii with an APS-C sized sensor package is because Sony doesn't want to cannibalize their full frame sales, which make more profit off the more expensive glass. Same thing Nikon, the Z fc could have been a Z5 mini with a build quality on par with the new Z f. They're not going to do that because they would make less money. Canon's R7 is a great body for a lot more than sports and wild life, but they're not going to make standard focal length equivalent fast primes with weather sealing to open that up (and of course it's locked out so Sigma can't help). Leica made a commitment to APS-C with the TL into the CL, even calling upon the name of Oskar Barnack, the creator of the Leica camera, saying the CL would be the camera he would make today. It was too late, marketing spouting false out of date garbage that crop sensors are terrible quality and worthless had dug in and killed sales for the CL.
I started with m43 when it debuted because I like to be different. I currently vhave a g9 and am considering the g9 ii. Im just annoyed they took away the top yop deck lcd and that the mode dial is not lockable
Hugh, when you can, could you test out photo quality for night / low light shots, a real weakness of the original G9. Thanks
A great break down of this new camera. As someone that lives in the margins for my photo work this isn't for me, however I live solidly in the 1080p space for my YT channel's news. If I wasn't already invested now in the Sony system I'd sure take a look at this camera... .and of course I get indecent (photo gear speaking) when I see Leica branding on a lens regardless of the format. ;)
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You Nailed it I would love that new sensor and processor (not to mention the focusing) in a body like the GX8, with it great build and confit in the hand.
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A G9ii will almost certainly be my next camera body. I am blessed to have a great system already, and I really like the feature set of the G9ii. 🙂
Thank you for a superb review. Subscribed!
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I own the Fujifilm xh series and the xs20 which offers a wide range of lens options
It is by no means a small feat they pulled here with this camera. The first 'serious' system I had was mft and this would have been great to see just say 3 years ago. So I'm just wondering if mft system can attract the attention it had back in the day...today. Competition is stiff indeed, and it may be tough to get lens manufacturers on board with this system when most have probably considered the whole mft ecosystem a fading one. Is it just a little too late remains to be seen...but a fine camera no doubt 👍
Thanks for a putting together a nice long review of this camera. I went from the G9 to the Em1mkiii because the G9 was just feeling a bit old. Something I was thinking about for super telephoto is that when I had a 42mp full frame, I’d carry a 400mm and crop to 800mm. But now I’m shooting the panaleica 100-400 and getting 800mm without cropping and getting higher res shots with the exact same depth of field. As full frame cropped. Plus being able to do a hand held hi-res 50mp on the Olympus and cropping to 1000mm is insane for interesting landscapes and architecture. So many things to talk about with these cameras.
I don’t believe shooting hand-held in high-res mode at the long end is feasible - at least for me. 😊
@@3BMEP you mentioned the Chrysler building and that’s one of my favorites to take pictures of. I shoot handheld from that Gantry park in LIC and you can see the individual tourists on top of the Empire State Building it’s so neat, even if go out lightweight with the Olympus 75-300mm. Such fun cameras, I still enjoy my M240 though for some full frame fun, Voigtlander 50mm 1.1 is my favorite lately for that body.
@@SpruceUp612 good man! Shooting hand-held WITHOUT high resolution mode absolutely IS possible as I showed, but when I tried shooting high res hand-held even at 100mm down in DC, I’d call it close - but no cigar. 😊👊🏻
I love MFT and have a soft spot for the Panasonic and Olympus lenses. I really WANT a G9II with 12-35, 35-100, 100-400 but I just can't justify jumping back into MFT after jumping ship to RF. Even as a second body and especially with strong APSC Fujifulm contenders for a cropped sensor camera.
A new GX9 or LX MFT camera would be very interesting though!
Let's hope for a GX9 MKii.
pre-ordered the G9 II in early September. B&H just sent me an email asking if I wanted to cancel that order and select another product. What's with Panasonic announcing a new product but not being able to ship to the retailer "until late December"? This is just crazy.
Hugh speaks quietly: *turn volume up to 100*
Music hits me at 110db: *turn volume down to 1 and seek care for ruptured eardrum*
Beyond that, you made the G9 ii look like a good option for travel, so thank you for the review!
I love my Sony 100-400GM, but many that one looks great. I do a lot of astro, which requires manual fine tuning, and the sony focus by wire is far too twitchy. How was it on this?
I didn’t try manual focus, sorry!
Hugh: many thanks for your review, which I am rewatching four months on.
I had planned to buy a S5II and even preemptively bought the F1.8 50mm! But now I’m thinking the G9II is the better option subject to prices dropping a bit.
I own the G9 OG. There is a new level of vibrance, richness and luminance in the colours and tones in the G9II. There is better roll off no doubt aided by the expanded DR. Stunningly beautiful.
I always felt the OG G9 shows a touch of ‘London Dreary Day LUT’ in its images. Perhaps harsh, but hopefully some users will understand my point!
Now the images have a special pop to them. The practical gap between the G9II and FF is negligible and can be mitigated by using the correct lenses and software corrections in post. Only downside there is more time in the workflow so not ideal for professionals perhaps.
I would have like some discussion comparing it to the OM1.
There are about 90 lenses now available for M43 from manufacturers such as OM Digital Solutions, Panasonic, Tamron, Sigma, Kowa, Venus Optics, and even Voigtlander. Quite a range of capabilities and prices. "Long in the tooth" - is that really relevant for lenses? Although, the M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 40-150mm F4.0 PRO was just released last year. This is the sixth review of the G9 ii that I have seen. So far, every one of them lists where they feel Panasonic fell short - for example, they all say that they wished the camera was smaller. And yet, most of them acknowledge that, with this camera, Panasonic has given them EVERYTHING that they had asked for since they reviewed the G9 and that it is now the standard to beat for many of its features. Somewhere there must be a manual for camera reviewers that says all reviews MUST find something wrong or else they are not legitimate. Still, I always enjoy your presentation, sir!
I must have missed that manual - I think I just get cranky 😊. The key to understanding my take on the lens ecosystem is that I’m talking image quality, compactness, shallowest depth of field - and joy in hand. I am NOT talking about manual focus lenses from third parties, nor quantity. But of course reasonable people may disagree! 🖖🏻
@@3BMEP Fair enough. Hard to measure joy.
I am really interested in the G9 for it's telephoto ability. My smartphone has almost replaced my DSLR for everyday shots of family friends and business. But interchangeable lens cameras with good AF are still way better for all sorts of actual photographic endeavors.
Thank you. This is an excellent review. I agree with your points including about the need for a smaller lumix camera with similar specs to the G9II.
I also agree with MFT now being a viable alternative to FF for someone moving to mirrorless given the AF disadvantage of lumix has been negated as well as size benefits (mainly with the smaller lenses).
I think the initial starting price of the G9 II is a touch high so hopefully LUMIX’s typical approach of significantly dropping the price over the 12-24 months post launch will be repeated.
Here in Australia the G9 is still on sale for AU$1199. The G9II is priced at launch at AU$3299! Yikes. That isn’t sustainable.
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I think unfortunately a lot of folks left the M4/3 system (no I’m not saying you did) but I think a lot of folks did. I left my M4/3 GH5 a couple years back. I loved the system but they REFUSED to fix the autofocus 😅 I was perfectly happy with everything else, the moment they released the GH6 I realized Lumix just didn’t care. So I walked away.
May I ask if there are any prominent features in GH6 that are missing from G9ii?
Hi thanks for this video, really enjoyed it :-)
I've just sold some older Nikon and Fuji gear and purchased the G9m2 and the Leica/ Panasonic 200 F2. 8 .
Do you think this could be a decent sports (soccer) shooting combination? I'm close to the football field and will be using mono pod.
Yep!
IF:
1 - Olympus will release OM-1 mark II
2 - Olympus will increase resolution in megapixels to at least 30 Mpx in that new model
3 - Olympus will increase "tripod resolution" in megapixels to 100 Mpx
4 - Olympus will make also human faces autofocus targeting better
AND that would happen in at max 2024..... then M43 will rock over APS-C most likely, and will get closer to FF. There always will be limitations because of image sensor obviously..
I would love Panasonic creating 25MP mft camera without video future at all that offers the same quality as G9II. Purely for photographers and make it cheaper. Same body.