I've got four snare drums with wood hoops: a 6 1/2 x 14" Tama brass-shell, a 5 x 14" Pacific maple shell, a Pacific 7 1/2 x 14" maple/walnut, and a custom made 5 x 14" mahogany shell. I prefer wood hoops primarily for the great rim shots and cross-stick sound which sounds closer like wood claves to me than metal hoops. A consideration though is 14" snare drums with wood bottom hoops might not fit into the baskets on most snare drum stands. You have to get a snare stand which will accommodate the extra diameter of a drum with wood hoops. From this video: I'd pick the wood hoops with the brass triple-flange hoops a close second. I agree though with somebody else who commented: you have to hear your drums 'out in the house' of the venue you're playing at to really get a good idea of how they sound.
Those Angel hoops really change the sound, dry and snappy but lots less body than any of the others. Useful for certain situations like ringy low tunings, but for common tunings I dont like them (I own a pair). Liked the wood hoop sound most here.
@@LaceChasersay I am busy with a clipboard running a music festival with 2 million people in the central London streets... but five of those stages have two kits on them which about ten bands are going to be playing. What do you suppose gets done about that? I know piano tuners, I know drum techs, I know sound engineers, and I know security people. I can do all those jobs myself fine. Loads of people can't tell if a guitar is perfectly in tune... but it matters, and the sound has a different level of focus as a result, even if the listener is tone deaf, stoned, or stone deaf. We have this tool called a "tune bot". That is one of the tools that will have been used to get each version tuned so closely with the other examples so that you get the same mics, room, shell, skins, sticks, head tension etc... and the only change is the hoops.
You're getting such a good tune on that drum, they all sound good either way. Tuning is 99.9 percent of where the sound comes from. I have $1000 snares and $80 cheap snares and tuned well with good heads they can set right next to one another. I know one thing is for sure, die cast hoops and I don't get along on Tom's though. I had a die cast on a 13 inch rack and the thing was a brick. Ordered a 1.6 mm triple flange for 13 bucks and it turnt that drum into an animal. Very nice video thought, I'm gonna save this in my good snare folder for later tuning reference.
Seems like you can control overtones with hoops. Some ring like bells and some dampen. Nice! I have a steel drum that I suspect would benefit from the wood hoops.
I love that wood sound but I've never had wood hoops. I was thinking about picking up one of the Gibraltars off of Amazon. I sometimes like to flip my sticks around for particular songs especially when I'm using a big fat snare drum head. A metal hoop invariably chews up the stick to where I can't hold it anymore. I don't imagine a wood hoop would do that at all.
At the end when you do a faster AB I can really hear the difference, I noticed the diecast seems pitched a lot lower, is that just the tuning, or does it natural tune up lower and fatter with a diecast hoop?
Hi Jenny, I made the vid. The kick is a 24x14 Yamaha 9000 Bassdrum from 83 (thin shelled, stained edges, not like todays RCs). If I remember correctly, the kick has almost no dampening in it, mic in the hole was a EV 868, outside a Solomon Lowfreq. cheers Max
die cast hoops choke the drum and focus the sound. it is quite noticeable. i know a lot of people like that sound but me i have always disliked the sound of die cast hoops. my favorite is the sound of good ole regular steel triple flanged hoops 2,3mm finished in chrome plating. they allow the drum to have full open sound with plenty of beautiful overtones. and they last pretty much forever with the chrome finish if they are well taken care of.
Can anyone atest to the longevity of wood hoops? Will doing a lot of hard rimshots over time eat into the wood? I cant find much information on the longevity of them
To my ears it's the steel TF on that drum maybe on a different drum it's another rim ya gotta trust your own ears for what's right for you and what sounds you personally love not what someone else digs
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Ply 3:37
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AT LAST!!
a TRUE comparison video!
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Well nobody can say they haven’t been shown the differences any more! Sterling Work, Sir!
I've got four snare drums with wood hoops: a 6 1/2 x 14" Tama brass-shell, a 5 x 14" Pacific maple shell, a Pacific 7 1/2 x 14" maple/walnut, and a custom made 5 x 14" mahogany shell. I prefer wood hoops primarily for the great rim shots and cross-stick sound which sounds closer like wood claves to me than metal hoops. A consideration though is 14" snare drums with wood bottom hoops might not fit into the baskets on most snare drum stands. You have to get a snare stand which will accommodate the extra diameter of a drum with wood hoops. From this video: I'd pick the wood hoops with the brass triple-flange hoops a close second. I agree though with somebody else who commented: you have to hear your drums 'out in the house' of the venue you're playing at to really get a good idea of how they sound.
Standar triple flanged sounds fantastic. It is a matter of what you like. I don´t think anyone be better than the rest.
Those Angel hoops really change the sound, dry and snappy but lots less body than any of the others. Useful for certain situations like ringy low tunings, but for common tunings I dont like them (I own a pair). Liked the wood hoop sound most here.
Been drumming 19 years and I can still hardly hear the difference haha should’ve worn earplugs in those early punk years...
I am totally not hiring you to tune my kit.
@@weareallbeingwatched4602 shouldn’t have to hire anyone to tune your kit my man x.x
@@LaceChasersay I am busy with a clipboard running a music festival with 2 million people in the central London streets... but five of those stages have two kits on them which about ten bands are going to be playing. What do you suppose gets done about that? I know piano tuners, I know drum techs, I know sound engineers, and I know security people. I can do all those jobs myself fine. Loads of people can't tell if a guitar is perfectly in tune... but it matters, and the sound has a different level of focus as a result, even if the listener is tone deaf, stoned, or stone deaf.
We have this tool called a "tune bot". That is one of the tools that will have been used to get each version tuned so closely with the other examples so that you get the same mics, room, shell, skins, sticks, head tension etc... and the only change is the hoops.
shut up
Thanks for doing this Max. Very helpful. I think I might try a diecast on the snare side and experiment with the steel TF and brass TF on the batter.
Wow I had no idea there would be so much difference.
You're getting such a good tune on that drum, they all sound good either way. Tuning is 99.9 percent of where the sound comes from. I have $1000 snares and $80 cheap snares and tuned well with good heads they can set right next to one another. I know one thing is for sure, die cast hoops and I don't get along on Tom's though. I had a die cast on a 13 inch rack and the thing was a brick. Ordered a 1.6 mm triple flange for 13 bucks and it turnt that drum into an animal. Very nice video thought, I'm gonna save this in my good snare folder for later tuning reference.
Thanks Richard! :-)
Diecast then wood hoops would be my top picks.
Marquis D. Johnson Most definately!
Those are my two least favorite actually. Different strokes.
The single and triple flanged brass hoops sounded awesome, can't decide
Seems like you can control overtones with hoops. Some ring like bells and some dampen. Nice!
I have a steel drum that I suspect would benefit from the wood hoops.
Brass sounds the best for me, the single flanged hoops are nice too, especially the angel ones! I wouldn't mind some when I can afford to.
Beautiful video! Straight to the, point no fluff and beautifully executed.
Thanks!
I love that wood sound but I've never had wood hoops. I was thinking about picking up one of the Gibraltars off of Amazon. I sometimes like to flip my sticks around for particular songs especially when I'm using a big fat snare drum head. A metal hoop invariably chews up the stick to where I can't hold it anymore. I don't imagine a wood hoop would do that at all.
Check "S-hoop"s - though I found them deadening the sound too much, they are safe for the sticks.
Angel Hoops! Best ones on the market by far!
That snare sounds very good. Great video! Thanks 😊
I like die cast
Best comparison videos on TH-cam
Thanks!
No double flanged hoops.
Why.
I've been trying to find sound demos all night.
Very helpful! Thanks bud! I personally prefer the triple flange. More natural sounding. Cheers!
That triple flanged brass is tasty
it sounds exactly like the steel TF
triple flange hoops sounds more "lively", die-cast is like a more controlled sound. single flange sounds "dead".
At the end when you do a faster AB I can really hear the difference, I noticed the diecast seems pitched a lot lower, is that just the tuning, or does it natural tune up lower and fatter with a diecast hoop?
3:57 nice tone
your Kick sounds amazing what is it and how are the mics set up?
Hi Jenny, I made the vid. The kick is a 24x14 Yamaha 9000 Bassdrum from 83 (thin shelled, stained edges, not like todays RCs). If I remember correctly, the kick has almost no dampening in it, mic in the hole was a EV 868, outside a Solomon Lowfreq. cheers Max
cool thanks
Nice idea,but no hard rimshots other than a cross stick to really discern the differences between the batter hoops.
watch the end
They all sound good to me. I'll take any of them. Which one is easiest on my sticks?
Jacky YumYum ply my sticks last twice as long. I rim shot a lot.
Honestly, I prefer the standard hoops. Sorry if that makes me bad or uncultured. I just like how they sound.
Brass triple flanged for me. Wood hoop is nice for the cross stick.
solid brass triple flanged
Brass gets my vote
Woah that brass!
die cast hoops choke the drum and focus the sound. it is quite noticeable. i know a lot of people like that sound but me i have always disliked the sound of die cast hoops. my favorite is the sound of good ole regular steel triple flanged hoops 2,3mm finished in chrome plating. they allow the drum to have full open sound with plenty of beautiful overtones. and they last pretty much forever with the chrome finish if they are well taken care of.
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D Adam no problem
Can anyone atest to the longevity of wood hoops? Will doing a lot of hard rimshots over time eat into the wood? I cant find much information on the longevity of them
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I like the brass
Im a dumb-butt I didn't realize I can change the snare sound by buying hoops.
thinking of ordering some brass hoops; mmmm
Good Choice.
To my ears it's the steel TF on that drum maybe on a different drum it's another rim ya gotta trust your own ears for what's right for you and what sounds you personally love not what someone else digs
Wood: anemic
Triple-flanged: meh, ringy.
Die-cast: solid AF
Single flange steel: excellent
Single flange brass: SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
They all sound the same. The differences in sound could be achieved with muffling and tuning
Hugh Mongus They sound the same in the video but I can assure you they sound and feel completely different in real life.
Agreed 😁
Diecast has the most ring
If you tune the bottom head higher.
Nuedge!
Great review.
Thanks!
great vid!
The way you tune the drum they all sound the same.
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