I know this wasn't really its intended purpose, but I'm actually watching this video for my chemical engineering thermodynamics class haha. Great explanation!
Taking HVAC as an elective for my mech eng bachelors. I have a test in 20 mins and Im prepared but sometimes I mix up the lines in my head as the chart was shown to us recently. Thank you for making it clear and consice :)
After watching endless of TH-cam videos about this topic, I finally found this one which in all honesty is the most clear explanation about this chart, thanks to all the people who work on it so hard
I had to use a psychrometric chart recently and remembered a great video I watched a few years ago. Thankfully, I found it quickly -such a great explanation!
I don't work in HVAC but im taking a MechE course right now that discusses this. Been having trouble reading this chart via textbook, so this lesson was perfect, thanks so much!
I am in my second year of my architecture degree and I have a course dedicated to mechanical, electrical and plumbing in commercial buildings. We started looking at these charts the other day and I was so lost. Thank you so much for this video, it helped so much! You are the best. Thanks!
Yes this guy is good at explaining propertys of air. When i went to the construction college for pre exam prep 2 years they did convey all this info but not as well. Weird thing as a HVAC contractor for ten years I only knew a small few who would use this kind of data when sizing a system for residential homes, then a change with B&Z required it and they were lost for quite a long time they had to learn manual j and D to draw a plan. I made quite a living during these periods.
I would have loved to have this guy as the teacher of mech. engineering class in architecture school. Dude's funny and great at explaining an otherwise confusing chart
I thinks I got it. In a nutshell: Given a Pchart for a specific barometric pressure, the intersection of any two parameter values is a single point on the Pchart. Given a point on the Pchart, all its parameter values on the Pchart can be easily determined. Thks TomB
Great. Would be nice, for some, to start at Relative Humidity section (~6 minutes) , and note the nice big fraction shown in the top left blank area of the chart, and notice that on any vertical 'dry air' temperature line the relative humidity is in nice linear 'tick marks' (going from zero to 100% saturated). And that the way we shift from the current point out to the 'web bulb' (diagonal line) is neatly at right angle to the curves of the relative humidity..
IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ON THE Y-AXIS MEAN, READ ON: According to Wikipedia (see LINK1 below) A grain is a unit of measurement of mass, and historically was the mass of a grain of wheat or barley. Apparently, a grain is now defined as 1 grain = 64.79891 milligrams (eq. 1) According to Wikipedia (see LINK2 below) 1 kg = 15432.3487 grains (eq. 2) Therefore 1 g = 15.4323487 grains (eq. 3) In the USA, we measure weight (which is actually force, not mass) in pounds, as in "he weighs 170 lbs". To get a feel for what a "grain" is, we can ask "how many grains in a pound"? There are 453.592 grams in one pound (453.592 g = 1 lb) 1 g = 15.4323487 grains (eq. 3) If we multiply both side of the eq. 3 above by 453.592, we have 453.592 g = 6999.99 (eq. 4) In other words (in round numbers) 1 lb = 7000 grains (eq. 5) So, in this video, the y-axis on the right (which reads 0, 20, 40, 60,...) is "mass of water vapor, measured in grains, divided by mass of dry air, measured in pounds, for a given volume of moist air". The 2nd y-axis on the right (which reads .001, .003, .005,...) is "mass of water vapor divided by mass of dry air, for a given volume of moist air". So it could be "pounds of water per pound of dry air" or "kg of water per kg of dry air". Whenever the presenter says "grains" we could take that number, divide it by 7000, and arrive at pounds. Let's test that out, at 6:00 mins in, we see the "132 gr" arrow is just above 0.19" on the two y-axis's. Let divide 132 by 7000 and we get 0.019 and that's in agreement with his chart, which confirms our understanding!!! LINK1: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_and_US_customary_measurement_systems LINK2: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grain_(unit) NOTE: If I've made a mistake, reply to this comment and correct it please.
TH-cam auto-blocked your comment (not sure why... maybe because of the external links). We did not take the time to read your thesis for accuracy, but since you mentioned wheat and barley, Ryan said to go ahead and share your post. He also said to work hops into your next comment somehow.
Great video! Thank you for sharing this information. What's the model number of that Fluke device? I'm interested in getting a digital humidity/temperature meter as precise as possible? I've noticed how the measurements on the sling might be biased by how consistent the person using it is while rotating it, so a digital one could be a solution. Thanks again.
You explained the chart very well. Hope you could present the metric version of psychrometric chart. That's what we use here in teaching air conditioning course. Thank you sir.
True... it has been well over 20 years since I had used metric on a daily basis. The U.S. is weird. We teach both IP and SI to kids... then in college it is all SI... but then we send you out into the workforce where absolutely no one uses SI. Then every company has to re-train every college kid they hire how to use IP units again. Crazy.
At 8:02 why don’t we have a problem when we lower humidification to 20% since that reduces the dew point temperature? I thought condensation occurs when you go below dew point temperature?
Condensation will occur when the dry bulb air temperature of surface in question drops below the dewpoint. In this example, the indoor temperature is fixed at 75F and the window temperature is fixed a 35F. We started with air at 75 db, 23% RH, and 35 dewpoint. We changed the indoor humidity down to 20% so that puts us at 75 db and 31 dewpoint. If you lower the RH (23 down to 20%) with a fixed dry bulb temp (75F), then the dewpoint of the air is lowered to 31. If my window surface is 35 db and my indoor air is 31 dp, then my window is ABOVE my dewpoint and hence no condensation.
Ryan, I have a question but here's the context 1st: I have force air conditioning for the whole house. But on a whim I ran my portable a/c on dehumifier mode the last few days. !Amazingly it was getting a gallon of condensating a hour! More importantly although the temp was pretty hot, the humidity was pretty comfortable ~%70. It was like being out in the arizona desert in the summer (hot but dry). In a nutshell I want a lot more dehumidified air & a loot less cool air. In the portable a/c unit I assume air is slowly forced over just above freezing evaporator coil thus maxing the dwell time for condensation. Finallllllllllly the question: ?Can I buy a thermostat that will make my whole house force air conditioner be more of a dehumidifer? If not, how can I do it myself?
Yes, lots of thermostats use the air conditioner to run a dehumidification mode. This would include some of my favorites, such as ecobee 4 (or 5), Carrier "original" Cor, and Bryant Housewise. Also many stats from Venstar and Honeywell. There are two ways in which these can be used. 1) Cool to Dehumidify: this forces on the Y1 signal if the space is more humid than the dehumidification setpoint... even if the space temp is satisfied. This works with all equipment irregardless of type or brand. 2) Dehumidification Mode of the Equipment: this would turn on the dehum relay of the stat as needed. This relay would be wired to the DH or DEHUM input on the furnace. This will slow the blower down while running the cooling to change the sensible heat ratio and hence optimize the dehumidification ability. It should be pointed out that both of these are different than running a dehumidifier. A dehumidifier is a essentially an air conditioner with one important difference. Both the evaporator coil and the condenser coil are in the occupied space. This means no heat is rejected to the outdoors and instead it is rejected back into the space. This is obviously not energy efficient. Additionally, it does not lower the indoor space temp. So a dehumidifier only dehumidifies, but an air conditioner can cool and dehumidify... and how the stat controls it can help it do one more than the other.
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That example was 30% RH in the building at the humidistat, not 30% at the cold surface and the point of condensation. In that section of the video we were explaining how the cold window would drop the temperature of the air immediately next to the window (say within an inch of the surface) and as that temp dropped, the RH would rise. As it gets cold enough to raise the RH to 100%, then condensation occurs.
We have not made a short video series, but we do have a 3 hour free training on the Psych chart that does cover that and more. Here is the link to the first 90 minute module of that training - register.gotowebinar.com/register/1045518315942376460
Question: For a given room volume (cuft), if I take two sets of measurements (before, after), measuring dry bulb and relative humidity can I determine the difference in water content? For example: If I measure the volume of a house, record dry bulb and relative humidity, open the windows, record again the dry bulb and relative humidity... a spreadsheet could calculate how many gallons of water have been introduced or removed from the house? It would quantify in a relatable way the effect of opening windows on a "nice morning" only to regret later in the warm afternoon.
Theoretically, yes. But you will need more than the psych chart. You can plot your DB & WB state points and use those to find the absolute humidity on the chart. But that is going to tell you how many grains of moisture per pound of dry air. Then you need to calculate how much dry air the volume of that specific house holds. And then how many grains are in a gallon.
@@TECTubefilms I was going to use 7000 grains per pound and 8.34 pounds per gallon. Therefore 58,380 grains equals one gallon. The volume is no problem. I am a retired architect.
@@BostonClipper We were debating here in the office if you were a retired civil engineer or a retired architect. We knew it had to be one with a question like that. LOL
What is the relation between dewpoint temp & RH? I'm asking because in your 2 examples, for the duct in the ceiling, condensation occurs when the temperature is below the dew point while for the glass, condensation happens when RH goes above the desired RH.
Condensation on glass is the same as all materials. If the temperature of the material is below the dewpoint temperature of the air touching the material it will condense.
Back when the video was made you used to be able to get them online from the Carrier Bookstore, but they closed that site. You can, however, still get them from your local Carrier distributor.
Would this help ? >> [www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.ashrae.org/File%2520Library/Technical%2520Resources/Bookstore/UP3/SI-1.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj02oyn0YruAhVL7XMBHUtwARAQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0bMgvpCZtGI6bOrFbE3gmO]
That was just an example of 75F and 60 grains. We could have picked anything in that example. If you were taking field measurements, the easiest two to measure are dry bulb and wet bulb, but once you plot their intersection on the graph, you could then read specific humidity (grains), relative humidity, dew point, enthalpy, etc. on the chart.
Find 85 db on the vertical axis and follow the line up to the 60% RH curved line. Make a dot there on your chart. Then read horizontal access to the far right to determine the grains of moisture.
In an air washer installation, 100 m3/min of air at 5 oC DBT and 80% relative humidity has to be heated and humidified to 25 oC and 45% of relative humidity by the following processes; (a) preheating, (b) adiabatic saturation in a re-circulated air washer up to 95% relative humidity and then (c) reheat to final state. Calculate: 1. total heat added in kW 2. water mass to be provided to the washer and 3. humidifying efficiency of the air washer. You can find solutions to this question
I noticed the line coming into the compressor inside the condensing unit has few inches of rubber hose left on it, rest of line is exposed? Is this line going to sweat in the summer, is it going to affect the performance if I don’t replace the broken insulation? And why? Thanks
If... or rather when... that line gets below the dewpoint of the ambient air, it will sweat. Yes, missing insulation affects performance, which is why it was originally insulated. A small amount of insulation missing might not affect it much. The more that is missing, the more the customer may notice a higher energy bill or less cooling capacity.
Hello .. I was wondering if you offer these videos in a dvd set for sell. Basically I’m looking for anything that help a beginner better understand the formulas and graphs in depth. Please let me know.. thanks in advanced.
Although, some of these slides that Ryan used were in this video are part of a larger training class that Carrier has. They call it the Technical Development Program (TDP). We have been teaching it as an in-person class for decades and many other Carrier offices do the same. You can also order the workbooks from your Carrier distributor for self-study. There are probably 40 different modules and each is about 4 hours.
Download and laminate a chart. The Insight Partners chart is real nice, because it has the index point on it so you can calculate your sensible heat ratio (SHR)
We give them out at a lot of our live classes including the one that starts next week. www.tecdealer.com/Dealer/TrainClassRegDtl?lngDtl=928&lngCourse=583&WebLink=3
It was 72F and 20% RH, but we understand your point. This is pretty common for a midwestern winter. Office spaces are very seldom humidified. Although, if the humidity was higher we could lower the temp in the office and be equally comfortable.
@@TECTubefilms Ah, wintertime. It must have been quite cold, and well into the winter season to dry out that low (time for materials to dry out as well, otherwise they keep the space RH a bit higher, longer) (forensic HVAC, LOL). Thanks.
@@louf7178 It was the last day of autumn (12/20/17) in the morning in North Aurora, IL. Outdoor temp records show it was between 31 and 35 degrees outside, which is about 5 degrees warmer than the average. It was also only 16 and 25 dewpoint. Because of the outside ventilation air coming through the minimum position on the economizer, we bring in a lot of dry air. Our classroom, which Ryan's office shares a RTU with, was also empty that day so that is 15 to 20 less human humidifiers in the space. LOL
I know this wasn't really its intended purpose, but I'm actually watching this video for my chemical engineering thermodynamics class haha. Great explanation!
Same here lol
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Taking HVAC as an elective for my mech eng bachelors. I have a test in 20 mins and Im prepared but sometimes I mix up the lines in my head as the chart was shown to us recently. Thank you for making it clear and consice :)
After watching endless of TH-cam videos about this topic, I finally found this one which in all honesty is the most clear explanation about this chart, thanks to all the people who work on it so hard
Best and most informative video on TH-cam regarding psychometric charts. Great job!
I had to use a psychrometric chart recently and remembered a great video I watched a few years ago. Thankfully, I found it quickly -such a great explanation!
Sir, You are a great teacher. Your lecture was short, derived logically one after another and to the point!
This guy is excellent!!!! I wish he was my professor for thermodynamics!!!!
I don't work in HVAC but im taking a MechE course right now that discusses this. Been having trouble reading this chart via textbook, so this lesson was perfect, thanks so much!
Text Book is so confusing, rather watch You Tube. I almost complete the engineering textbook, but it does not work well.
Thank you for the explanation! I'm studying for my certified energy manager exam and I think I'm a lot closer to understanding this chart!
I am in my second year of my architecture degree and I have a course dedicated to mechanical, electrical and plumbing in commercial buildings. We started looking at these charts the other day and I was so lost. Thank you so much for this video, it helped so much! You are the best. Thanks!
All of the video tutorial are very informative 👍 thanks for sharing your knowledge ♥️🇵🇭
Thanks for sharing comprehensive information on this topic. Excellent
Well-presented and very educational for highly technical person and for a lay-man like myself. Thank you sir. Great presentation. Liked it.
Yes this guy is good at explaining propertys of air. When i went to the construction college for pre exam prep 2 years they did convey all this info but not as well. Weird thing as a HVAC contractor for ten years I only knew a small few who would use this kind of data when sizing a system for residential homes, then a change with B&Z required it and they were lost for quite a long time they had to learn manual j and D to draw a plan. I made quite a living during these periods.
Very informative, great delivery and well put together. Thank you so much.
Thank you for explaining this psychometric chart so well ! ❤❤❤❤
Great presentation….you made it easy to comprehend 👍🏾👍🏾
I would have loved to have this guy as the teacher of mech. engineering class in architecture school. Dude's funny and great at explaining an otherwise confusing chart
this is helpful for the architecture folks studying for the PDD exam. Thank you.
awesome explanation of the psychrometric chart!
Damn this guy's way of explaining is awesome.
Thanks for the great video. Appreciate your time!
Really well-spoken and understandable thank you!
I thinks I got it. In a nutshell: Given a Pchart for a specific barometric pressure, the intersection of any two parameter values is a single point on the Pchart. Given a point on the Pchart, all its parameter values on the Pchart can be easily determined. Thks TomB
We watced this today in my class . I was confused as shit till I saw this video thanks.
Awesome video! Was reading about this in my plumbing book. Now I understand it! Great explanation!
no bs straight to the point, very useful video thanks
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Great.
Would be nice, for some, to start at Relative Humidity section (~6 minutes) , and note the nice big fraction shown in the top left blank area of the chart, and notice that on any vertical 'dry air' temperature line the relative humidity is in nice linear 'tick marks' (going from zero to 100% saturated).
And that the way we shift from the current point out to the 'web bulb' (diagonal line) is neatly at right angle to the curves of the relative humidity..
Great video! Very well explained. You said you were going to mention a little about enthalpy. I was wanting to see that too. Thank you!
Your sense of humor is interesting
This was an amazing introduction! Thank you
IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ON THE Y-AXIS MEAN, READ ON:
According to Wikipedia (see LINK1 below)
A grain is a unit of measurement of mass, and historically was the mass of a grain of wheat or barley.
Apparently, a grain is now defined as
1 grain = 64.79891 milligrams (eq. 1)
According to Wikipedia (see LINK2 below)
1 kg = 15432.3487 grains (eq. 2)
Therefore
1 g = 15.4323487 grains (eq. 3)
In the USA, we measure weight (which is actually force, not mass) in pounds, as in "he weighs 170 lbs". To get a feel for what a "grain" is, we can ask "how many grains in a pound"?
There are 453.592 grams in one pound (453.592 g = 1 lb)
1 g = 15.4323487 grains (eq. 3)
If we multiply both side of the eq. 3 above by 453.592, we have
453.592 g = 6999.99 (eq. 4)
In other words (in round numbers)
1 lb = 7000 grains (eq. 5)
So, in this video,
the y-axis on the right (which reads 0, 20, 40, 60,...) is "mass of water vapor, measured in grains, divided by mass of dry air, measured in pounds, for a given volume of moist air".
The 2nd y-axis on the right (which reads .001, .003, .005,...) is "mass of water vapor divided by mass of dry air, for a given volume of moist air". So it could be "pounds of water per pound of dry air" or "kg of water per kg of dry air".
Whenever the presenter says "grains" we could take that number, divide it by 7000, and arrive at pounds.
Let's test that out, at 6:00 mins in, we see the "132 gr" arrow is just above 0.19" on the two y-axis's.
Let divide 132 by 7000 and we get 0.019 and that's in agreement with his chart, which confirms our understanding!!!
LINK1: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_and_US_customary_measurement_systems
LINK2: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grain_(unit)
NOTE: If I've made a mistake, reply to this comment and correct it please.
TH-cam auto-blocked your comment (not sure why... maybe because of the external links). We did not take the time to read your thesis for accuracy, but since you mentioned wheat and barley, Ryan said to go ahead and share your post. He also said to work hops into your next comment somehow.
This was awesome! Thanks so much, ive been trying to grok these charts the past week or so and this helped me get my head around it
Thank you for your explanation! My professor was having trouble teaching us this material without confusing us. 😅
Thanks much more clearly explained then engineering professor
Very good clear description. Thanks.
Awesome video! Thank you for the clarity, super helpful.
Great video! Thank you for sharing this information. What's the model number of that Fluke device? I'm interested in getting a digital humidity/temperature meter as precise as possible? I've noticed how the measurements on the sling might be biased by how consistent the person using it is while rotating it, so a digital one could be a solution. Thanks again.
Thought my teacher was calling this the "PSYCHOmetric" chart for like a month, and I didn't have a any reason at all to question the name.
very very good explaining and examples. thanks
God, i have to watch this video for a homework but im afraid to fall in love, this guy is so charming xD
We do believe that is how he courted his wife back in the day... the love language of psychrometrics
You explained the chart very well. Hope you could present the metric version of psychrometric chart. That's what we use here in teaching air conditioning course. Thank you sir.
We bet Ryan has not used metric units since college!
True... it has been well over 20 years since I had used metric on a daily basis. The U.S. is weird. We teach both IP and SI to kids... then in college it is all SI... but then we send you out into the workforce where absolutely no one uses SI. Then every company has to re-train every college kid they hire how to use IP units again. Crazy.
Really good presentation, thanks!
Thanks!! Can you explain what the vapor pressure in inches of mercury means and how to use it?
At 8:02 why don’t we have a problem when we lower humidification to 20% since that reduces the dew point temperature? I thought condensation occurs when you go below dew point temperature?
Condensation will occur when the dry bulb air temperature of surface in question drops below the dewpoint. In this example, the indoor temperature is fixed at 75F and the window temperature is fixed a 35F.
We started with air at 75 db, 23% RH, and 35 dewpoint. We changed the indoor humidity down to 20% so that puts us at 75 db and 31 dewpoint.
If you lower the RH (23 down to 20%) with a fixed dry bulb temp (75F), then the dewpoint of the air is lowered to 31. If my window surface is 35 db and my indoor air is 31 dp, then my window is ABOVE my dewpoint and hence no condensation.
Excellent video, very descriptive. Thank you!
This man is a master
Ryan, I have a question but here's the context 1st: I have force air conditioning for the whole house. But on a whim I ran my portable a/c on dehumifier mode the last few days. !Amazingly it was getting a gallon of condensating a hour! More importantly although the temp was pretty hot, the humidity was pretty comfortable ~%70. It was like being out in the arizona desert in the summer (hot but dry). In a nutshell I want a lot more dehumidified air & a loot less cool air. In the portable a/c unit I assume air is slowly forced over just above freezing evaporator coil thus maxing the dwell time for condensation.
Finallllllllllly the question: ?Can I buy a thermostat that will make my whole house force air conditioner be more of a dehumidifer? If not, how can I do it myself?
Yes, lots of thermostats use the air conditioner to run a dehumidification mode. This would include some of my favorites, such as ecobee 4 (or 5), Carrier "original" Cor, and Bryant Housewise. Also many stats from Venstar and Honeywell.
There are two ways in which these can be used.
1) Cool to Dehumidify: this forces on the Y1 signal if the space is more humid than the dehumidification setpoint... even if the space temp is satisfied. This works with all equipment irregardless of type or brand.
2) Dehumidification Mode of the Equipment: this would turn on the dehum relay of the stat as needed. This relay would be wired to the DH or DEHUM input on the furnace. This will slow the blower down while running the cooling to change the sensible heat ratio and hence optimize the dehumidification ability.
It should be pointed out that both of these are different than running a dehumidifier. A dehumidifier is a essentially an air conditioner with one important difference. Both the evaporator coil and the condenser coil are in the occupied space. This means no heat is rejected to the outdoors and instead it is rejected back into the space. This is obviously not energy efficient. Additionally, it does not lower the indoor space temp. So a dehumidifier only dehumidifies, but an air conditioner can cool and dehumidify... and how the stat controls it can help it do one more than the other.
@@TECTubefilms Thks for the pointer. I'm on it like stink on pooh-pooh ;)
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Fantastic presentation! Do you have any more of the charts?
Could I get e version of psychometric chart please ？
Well explained thnaks Robbie Lawler.
Can you explain section 7:45. On saturation curve? On how it will condense at 30% RH
That example was 30% RH in the building at the humidistat, not 30% at the cold surface and the point of condensation. In that section of the video we were explaining how the cold window would drop the temperature of the air immediately next to the window (say within an inch of the surface) and as that temp dropped, the RH would rise. As it gets cold enough to raise the RH to 100%, then condensation occurs.
Great video. Very easy to follow.
Going to be reviewing this for my WRT course exam thanks mate
same reason that I'm viewing lol
Thanks! very informative, keep them coming.
At dew point temperature the condensation begins.
Thanks for the video. What brand and model is that yellow thermograph device you have?
Fluke 971
@@TECTubefilms awesome, thanks
You're mentioned you were giving psychrometric chart how do I go about getting one
Have "future training modules" been made for moving along the chart to change temperature and humidity?
We have not made a short video series, but we do have a 3 hour free training on the Psych chart that does cover that and more. Here is the link to the first 90 minute module of that training - register.gotowebinar.com/register/1045518315942376460
this was quality explanation....
Sir! Thank you for the explanation.
How can I get one of those charts? Thank you! Brian
Great video sir.
very clear explanation. Big thanks! :)
So good and helpful! Thank you!
Nice explanation 👍
Question: For a given room volume (cuft), if I take two sets of measurements (before, after), measuring dry bulb and relative humidity can I determine the difference in water content?
For example: If I measure the volume of a house, record dry bulb and relative humidity, open the windows, record again the dry bulb and relative humidity... a spreadsheet could calculate how many gallons of water have been introduced or removed from the house? It would quantify in a relatable way the effect of opening windows on a "nice morning" only to regret later in the warm afternoon.
Theoretically, yes. But you will need more than the psych chart. You can plot your DB & WB state points and use those to find the absolute humidity on the chart. But that is going to tell you how many grains of moisture per pound of dry air. Then you need to calculate how much dry air the volume of that specific house holds. And then how many grains are in a gallon.
@@TECTubefilms I was going to use 7000 grains per pound and 8.34 pounds per gallon. Therefore 58,380 grains equals one gallon.
The volume is no problem. I am a retired architect.
@@BostonClipper We were debating here in the office if you were a retired civil engineer or a retired architect. We knew it had to be one with a question like that. LOL
@@TECTubefilms lol
What is the relation between dewpoint temp & RH? I'm asking because in your 2 examples, for the duct in the ceiling, condensation occurs when the temperature is below the dew point while for the glass, condensation happens when RH goes above the desired RH.
Condensation on glass is the same as all materials. If the temperature of the material is below the dewpoint temperature of the air touching the material it will condense.
RH and dewpoint are related... they are both lines on the psych chart. The RH lines are the curved ones.
Great explanation.
Amazing, thanks for the video !
You are awesome man.
Great video thanks!
Would love to get a psychometric chart. Great channel, thank you very much.
Back when the video was made you used to be able to get them online from the Carrier Bookstore, but they closed that site. You can, however, still get them from your local Carrier distributor.
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great video. earlier in the video you used to points ambient temp and specific humidity, how did you come up with the specific humidity number?
That was just an example of 75F and 60 grains. We could have picked anything in that example. If you were taking field measurements, the easiest two to measure are dry bulb and wet bulb, but once you plot their intersection on the graph, you could then read specific humidity (grains), relative humidity, dew point, enthalpy, etc. on the chart.
Good explanation. thank you!
Perfect lesson. Thanks
Great Video. thank you very much!
Great explanation!
Good video, how could I get one of those charts?
If you are a HVAC pro in the Chicago area, sign up for one of our classes at www.tecmungo.com/training
I am an hvac pro but not in the Chicago area. Is there any other way of getting one besides going to your class?
@@richardfossani6421 We order them from Carrier - www.carrier.com/carrieruniversity/en/us/bookstore/
@@richardfossani6421 Or your local Carrier rep can get you one
My local guy doesn't have one, anyway I could purchase one from you?
Great info. video. Thanks.
Great job 👍
I thought specific humidity was grams of water per kilogram of air. Is there another way to measure it with grains as the water unit?
Grains is the unit of measure in the US. If you are in another country, you might be using grams.
@@TECTubefilms Thank you. I found the American units version. Fascinating explanation of this chart.
How can I get a copy? On your example of the window. Adding humidity to 30% why will it condense?
Is there a link for the Psychometric chart?
You can find it in manual of tropical housing by koeinsberg and a free pdf in form of ppt is available in internet
I need to know how to find grains of moisture per pound using the temp of 85 degrees f with a relative humidity of 60%
Find 85 db on the vertical axis and follow the line up to the 60% RH curved line. Make a dot there on your chart. Then read horizontal access to the far right to determine the grains of moisture.
In an air washer installation, 100 m3/min of air at 5 oC DBT and 80% relative humidity has to be heated and humidified to 25 oC and 45% of relative humidity by the following processes; (a) preheating, (b) adiabatic saturation in a re-circulated air washer up to 95% relative humidity and then (c) reheat to final state. Calculate: 1. total heat added in kW 2. water mass to be provided to the washer and 3. humidifying efficiency of the air washer.
You can find solutions to this question
Could someone send me a printable black and white chart pdf.... I've searched online and i don't have much time left for the exam
www.engineeringtoolbox.com/docs/documents/816/psychrometric_chart_29inHg.pdf
I noticed the line coming into the compressor inside the condensing unit has few inches of rubber hose left on it, rest of line is exposed? Is this line going to sweat in the summer, is it going to affect the performance if I don’t replace the broken insulation?
And why?
Thanks
If... or rather when... that line gets below the dewpoint of the ambient air, it will sweat. Yes, missing insulation affects performance, which is why it was originally insulated. A small amount of insulation missing might not affect it much. The more that is missing, the more the customer may notice a higher energy bill or less cooling capacity.
I want a psychrometric chart
Nice job. How can I get the software you used in this video?
We did not utilize any software in this video (except PowerPoint)
He was using a presentation provided by carrier (the AC manufacturer)
Hello .. I was wondering if you offer these videos in a dvd set for sell. Basically I’m looking for anything that help a beginner better understand the formulas and graphs in depth. Please let me know.. thanks in advanced.
No, we do not sell these videos. We figured putting them on TH-cam for free was better.
Although, some of these slides that Ryan used were in this video are part of a larger training class that Carrier has. They call it the Technical Development Program (TDP). We have been teaching it as an in-person class for decades and many other Carrier offices do the same. You can also order the workbooks from your Carrier distributor for self-study. There are probably 40 different modules and each is about 4 hours.
Here is a good one to start with www.carrier.com/carrieruniversity/en/us/training-courses/courses/abcs-of-air-conditioning/
Love the thumbnail, thank you!
😮❤ I'd like to have 1 of those charts.
Download and laminate a chart. The Insight Partners chart is real nice, because it has the index point on it so you can calculate your sensible heat ratio (SHR)
can i ask a copy of that chart? i badly need a clear copy of that chart for my studies. thank youuuu.
You used to be able to order them at www.carrieruniversity.com, but we think now you have to get them from your local Carrier distributor.
Any advice for fresher mechanical engineering students ?
Awesome video Thinks
Vapour pressure is where
Well said thank you.
Thanks how do I get one like that for my shop ? Thanks
We give them out at a lot of our live classes including the one that starts next week. www.tecdealer.com/Dealer/TrainClassRegDtl?lngDtl=928&lngCourse=583&WebLink=3
8:42 70F/20% RH? I don't know how you could have (or want) living space that dry !?!
It was 72F and 20% RH, but we understand your point. This is pretty common for a midwestern winter. Office spaces are very seldom humidified. Although, if the humidity was higher we could lower the temp in the office and be equally comfortable.
@@TECTubefilms Ah, wintertime. It must have been quite cold, and well into the winter season to dry out that low (time for materials to dry out as well, otherwise they keep the space RH a bit higher, longer) (forensic HVAC, LOL). Thanks.
@@louf7178 It was the last day of autumn (12/20/17) in the morning in North Aurora, IL. Outdoor temp records show it was between 31 and 35 degrees outside, which is about 5 degrees warmer than the average. It was also only 16 and 25 dewpoint. Because of the outside ventilation air coming through the minimum position on the economizer, we bring in a lot of dry air. Our classroom, which Ryan's office shares a RTU with, was also empty that day so that is 15 to 20 less human humidifiers in the space. LOL
@@TECTubefilms That is some recollection. If you looked it up, thankyou.
@@louf7178 Haha. We looked it up! Not even sure what we had for lunch over here.