How to Stabilize Wood and Why Should You do it?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.พ. 2019
- How to stabilize wood and why should you do it are the topics of this weeks video. Stabilizing wood or resin impregnating wood with stabilizing resin has been something I have wanted to do for a while now. I was kind of intimidated until i did some research on stabilizing wood with Cactus Juice Stabilizing Resin. Also known as Vacuum Stabilization, this process is not as intimidating as I once thought. I found a few good sources of information and I will link them below. I also will link the Cactus Juice, vacuum chamber, vacuum pumps, toaster oven, and oven thermometers. As I found out Stabilizing worthless wood, or punky wood can be lots of fun!
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Frequently asked questions about wood stabilizing th-cam.com/video/M3BJyyf0BMY/w-d-xo.html
just for some information water will boil in in good vacuum at around 80 deg. f. so i guess you could use your vacuum pot to draw off moisture without adding heat to your shop and maybe cheaper as well, especially when its 90 or 95 deg.in your shop.
This was very helpful. A quick overview and walkthrough of the process. I got my chamber this week and used this video to check my steps. Showing when to stop the vacuum was most helpful.
Awesome.. I’m glad I could help you out.. 👍👍
Ive watched this ten times now. Thanks for being so detailed with your explanations. Very helpful.
Very welcome Zac
Thank you! I've been doing resin for a bit as jewelry and I have been looking to up my game. I'm good at it and have an abundance of nice wood and your videos are understandable and let me know the basics that I need for what I'd like to do. Taking this to the next level will be fun 😉
Izzy Queenbee I’m glad you enjoyed the video and got something out of it.. I try to explain things the best I can. Do you have an Instagram or something showing your work??
A great explanation of why some woods need to be stabilised. Well done.
Dave Clarke Thank you Dave!! Appreciate it!! 👍
Nice to meet you. I ordered my equipment, use, vacuum chamber Cactus Juice., and Vacuum generator. I am learning the stabilizing first then the Resin. Thank you for sharing your knowledge sp freely
Absolutely.. my pleasure!! 👍👍
Future knifemaker here, this video helped me so much setting up everything ! Thank you, i have a lot of scale to mess with now !
Spc Madoule Super cool, glad I could help!!
Great video Jake. I’m sure I’ll be looking at this again when I start turning wood that needs to be stabilized. Thanks.
WB Fine Woodworking Very Welcome.. I’m glad you enjoyed it!!👍👍👊👊
Awesome video man. My buddy has been trying to talk me into this and this is the first time I've really seen it. Looks amazing!
Chasin' Aces Thank you!! It’s pretty easy once you know how and the results are pretty cool! 👍👍
Awesome that you made this video! Great work Jake!!
ROCK N WOODWORKS Thanks Brother!! It’s pretty fun to do!
Something new every day. I been learning with this channels a lot. Thanks
Enrique Ramírez Thank you very much.. glad you enjoy!! 👍👍👊
Jake you're on FIRE my friend, This video answered so many questions for me. Also, I have bookmarked your store on my computer for future purchased. Stay well my friend and thank you
Protect your DIGITS Creations Awesome!!! I’m glad I can help out!!! And thank you for helping me out!!!👍👍👊👊
I will be using your Amazon store as much as possible my friend.
Protect your DIGITS Creations Thank you. Thank you!!!
I've watched a good few videos where they've 'stabilised' the wood before turning and until now I have never completely understood why. Thanks for taking the time to explain in a no nonsense way the why and the how. I love your work man 5⭐'s
Gordon Chapman Thank you very much Gordon. Glad you got something out of it., this is a pretty fun process.. jump right in.. 👍👍👊
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One of the great things about TH-cam is you find things you may have no interest in or have ever thought of but this was fascinating maybe one day. Thanks
Awesome!! 👍👍
Representing Melbourne Storm and Australia! Great video, it was pretty cool to see just how much the burl soaked up the cactus juice!
Shaun Felton Thank you very much!! Yeah.. that wood soaks it up like crazy!!
My husband and I are getting into woodwork and this was a fabulous instruction video thank you very much and yes I’ll probably be buying stuff from you thank you
Thank you for watching Brenda.. and welcome aboard.. I put out information like this all the time.. plenty more to come.
This is a very detail, simple, and informative video Jake! Just the way I like it! Who knows maybe someday I will try this now too.
Bear Creek Woodworking Simple is how I like it!! 😄😄
Thank you. Thank you. Thank You...
I have wondered about this for a very long time..
Thank you for posting this video...
VMK The Forest Hermit Very welcome.. it’s pretty easy when you have the steps down.. 👍👍👍👊
Very good information Jake, Thanks for all of the videos angles
Very welcome!
Excellent video, I will be stabilizing all my stuff from now on. Thanks man
Scott Sisco Awesome, glad I could help ya out!
Spectacular video Jake ! Thank you so much for demystifying so much! Just getting started in SF 👌😁👍
SFSoulCrooner 👍👍 Awesome!! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Great video. So helpful, especially since I prefer to use wood for my knife handles. Stabilizing the wood first will really add value to my work.
Awesome!! I’m glad I could help you out.. I appreciate you watching my videos. 😄👊👍
So many great tips from the video AND the comments. I never thought about stabilizing wood before. I recently acquired a nice piece of wood from a tree that was hit by lightening. Its light and dark and all shades of beautiful browns in between. I planned to make knife handle blanks from it, but now I can do them correctly. I'm new at this but I know what I like and I like hanging out here with you Jake and your subscribers. Liked and Subbed.
MustangWriter Awesome!!! Welcome aboard.. there’s tons to be learned just in the comments.. I’m glad you enjoy... plenty more to come.. 👍👍
One of the most right up to being an exciting serious video I have ever watch. I was amazed, I watch the whole video. It was really hard to tell which intented direction it was head.....very well executed.
Thank you very much.. I’m glad you enjoyed the video. 👍👍
Surprising results. Excellent. Thank-you.
Thank you!! 👍👍
Thanks for the info! Great videos, keep up the good work.
TheTowelGuy Thanks Brother!! Appreciate it!! 👍👍👊👊
Thanks for making this video! I will definitely use this video as a reference for a future project.
Awesome.. glad I could help out.
Great Video! Thanks for taking us step by step!
Any time! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Jake,
Excellent video. Thanks for the reason for and explaining wood stabilizing.
Very welcome Steve.. I’m glad you enjoyed it.
Man, what a fantastic and informative video. I learned s much.
Thank you.
Subscribed!!!
Ben Hayat Awesome.. I’m glad you enjoyed it.. welcome to the channel. 👍👍👊
Thank you for sharing! I had no idea what stabilizing wood meant. This was a big help!
Thank you.. I’m glad I could help out. 👍👍
Wow I learned quite a bit. Thank you for sharing with us.
Ron Miller Very welcome!! Glad you liked it!
You should have 1 million subscribers by now. Great work and thanks for the videos.
Thanks Steve.. That would be cool 😎 Very welcome. 👍👍
Excellent info brother! You’re hooked! 😁 Thanks for the mention man! 👊
Heath Knuckles Yeah, I’m definitely Hooked Brother!! This stuff is pretty fun to do!!👍👊
@@JakeThompson I got some yellow cedar burrl it's got small spots that isn't solid wood. Small like a lead in a pencil ✏
Question will stabilization fill them inside?
@@Captaraknospider I did a burl and just kept coating it until it stopped soaking it in..
Awesome Jake. Really well done.
SoCoMO woodwork Thank you Buddy’!! 👍👊
Great info! Thanks for sharing!
Mark Mitchell Thanks for watching Mark! Glad you enjoyed!
Getting close to actually doing some stabilizing... Had to come back and sharpen up a bit! Great explanation like always.
Thanks Greg.. I appreciate ya 👍👍
Excellent video instruction. Thank you.
Don Ghidoni Very welcome! 👍
Great information, thank you!!!
Very welcome Craig 👍
great tutorial jake well done.
EML Media Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.
Amazing! Cant wait to stabilize mine too
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thanks, that was a very good presentation!!
Jim Jakosh Thank you very much, I’m glad you liked it!!
Very good tutorial.......doesn’t seem near as scary now 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Al Schulze - WoodworX Awww Al!! Thanks Brother!! 👍👍👍😄
This is so cool, thanks so much!
Very welcome 👍👍
Thank you so much for information
wood edem Very welcome!! 👍👍
Hello everyone!! Thanks for stopping by for the video!! I have found this to be a pretty rewarding and satisfying process.. I hope you got something out of this, and I will see y’all next time!! Check out some of the things I make with Stabilized wood. www.northsidecustomcrafts.com/new-products
I've been doing a ton of research about this and keep coming across the topic of pump failure from the vapor of the stabilizer getting into the internal plastic parts of the pump. You have talked to educated people who have experience with this, what have they said and what is your personal experience? ? I'm about to buy the same chamber but probably going with the cheaper pump. Thanks. Great video.
Chris Mclemore Fishing Absolutely right Chris. I was told to change the pump oil after every cycle. I can see why too.. You can watch the oil get pretty nasty through the sight glass. The pump oil is cheap. I have changed to every time with no problems yet. If and when the pump I have fails, I will be getting the cheaper one. Thanks for watching Chris!👍
@@JakeThompson what oil are you using?? Just wondering Since you change it so often.
Chris Mclemore Fishing Its Robinair high vacuum pump oil.. here’s a link www.amazon.com/Robinair-13203-Premium-High-Vacuum/dp/B000X1E59S I have it listed in my amazon store. The pumps don’t hold very much, I bought a gallon, it should last a long time!!
@@JakeThompson okie doke. Thanks. Keep em coming.
Cool that you can re-use that leftover stabilizer. Great video.
Mark Pinther Thanks a lot Mark!! Glad you enjoyed it!!
Great video, Jake! Something to think about before chucking up burl wood in the lathe. Thanks!
Downeast Thunder Creations Very Welcome!! Thank you for checking it out!👍👊
I'm looking to start stabilizing my own wood for knife scales. Good, information in the video.
Thank you.. glad I could help out. 👍👍
Man that was great!! Learned a lot!!
Thank you
Dan
Thanks for watching Dan
I’m just getting to it but you really helped me in my decisions!
Thanks for your info all taken in I'm in Australia
Telstra Orana Mall Thanks Mate! Glad I could help out!!
Melbourne Storm Flag!?!?
Didn't expect to see one of them in the background lol
Great vid!
Moka Twenty Thank you.. my buddy Dirk from Sumo’s projects sent it to me!! 👍👍
Great vid man, very informative. Much appreciated!
Daniel Carter anytime!! I’m glad you enjoyed it!!
@@JakeThompson I'm actually looking into stabilizing, I have a ton of really old wood that just isn't solid enough to build with, but looks gorgeous when it's turned on the lathe. I'm struggling to make the initial investment on the equipment needed for stabilization though. I like that you use a larger vacuum chamber, not one of the tall thin tubes. That's what I'll need to use as well. Thanks for the links, those will definitely help me out!
Daniel Carter Yeah
the initial investment can be a little scary.. but once you have the stuff... you have it.. you also need to change the vacuum pump oil after every cycle, but the oil is cheap.
@@JakeThompson oh, that's definitely good to know, thanks again!
Hi, great video well detailed. Do you leave the vacuum pump ON for the full duration when sacking all the air out of the wood? Or just like the pressure pot once it gets to the desired level switch off and leave as it is?
Thanks for watching David. You have to leave on the pump the entire time you are pulling air out. It says that specifically in the cactus juice instructions. 👍
@@JakeThompson Thanks Jake really appreciate your reply 😀
Informative vid. Thanks.
Meemo M Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! 👍👍👊
Great info for sure. Good video.
Thank you Chris.. 👍👍👊
Really interesting. I didn't know I could do that.
Thank you.. it’s a pretty cool process 👍👍
I had no idea this was a thing thanks alot
mentalcarve er Very Welcome, Thanks for watching!!👍👍
outstanding job bro.
Dale T Prescott Thank you Dale!! 👍👍
Another good en thanks for the information
Eddie Hall Thanks for Watching Eddie! 👍👍
Very informative!! Thank you. 😁👊
Very Welcome!👍👍
Learned a lot, Thank you...
Glenn Baird Very welcome!!
Hi Jake, Just found you as I was looking for videos on stabilising. Have watched Zac and Casey many times. Like your explanation of the process and will check out Heath Knuckles' channel. Cheers, Huw
Huw Davies Awesome!! I’m glad you enjoyed it and welcome to the channel! 👍👍👊
Thanks for a very honest and interesting video.
Though I must admit I was very curious as to how "homogeneous" the process had been through the thickness of the wood, and was hoping that You might split it to take a look.But it was very informative non the less, so many thanks for taking the effort of making this video and sharing Your knowledge.
Best regards
M Rdr Thank you and I’m glad you enjoyed the video.. I’ve done pretty thick pieces and I can say when I’m turning them on the lathe it’s pretty distinctive between stabilized wood and non stabilized wood.. I’ve never seen a piece act differently the more I turn it.. if that makes sense.
Thank you Jake for a great video, lots of very good information. That sure looks like a Melbourne Storm flag on your wall? It's a shame the STORM aren't the same since Billy Slater left the team.
Love your videos I've just found your channel I have Doug to thank (Pohl Barn). I'm a UK viewer and a fellow Tottenham supporter. Come on you Spurs!!!
Mr Dooza My buddy Jamie Page sent me the flag.. we visited the stadium when I was there!! Thank you Doug!! Thanks for coming over and I’m glad you enjoy the videos!! 👍👍
Good video...now I can stabilize the spalted wood for my knife handles
Awesome.. have fun 🦾🦾
Hey jake Bob Wilson here. Wish I could send you a photo because after watching this video I purchased the exact items you have in your demonstration here for the set up needed to have everything you need to stabilize sweet sweet punky funky wood. Chamber
, pump, resin,thermometers(2) and so on. I love your personality and your videos. Love how you are always ready for the ridiculous comments you guys get right after you post a new video. So any out there just can’t wait to tell you what you did wrong and point out anything that you do different then they do. I’m getting ready to start posting my videos very soon and that’s what I see will be the most challenging and that it to tune them out without feeling the need to respond. Any tip you can shoot my way would be much appreciated. Keep turning and burning!!!!!!Peace!!!!
Bob Wilson First things first.. I think I’m your first subscriber.. I’m super happy you like my videos.. I guess my best advise is to pay attention to the good comments... not the bad ones.. human nature makes us put more weight on 1 bad comment when there are 100 good comments... as long as people aren’t just out of line.. let it go.. if they are out of line, delete the comment and block them. Easy peasy.. 👍👍👊
Thanks for being my first subscriber Jake. It’s gonna be a few months before I go live I’m working with a creative design company which are currently working on my website atC account and all my social media‘s to have them have as much of the same look and feel to each other as possible that same company will be providing all the editing for my videos. I love that you throw out other peoples names that you get good information from and I subscribe to all the people that you mention like Casey and Zach. About the negative comments, you can just hear it in the tone of your voice that when you say something which you know or realize right afterwards that somebody is going to be all over that picking it apart you make some kind of comment or statement about how it’s done this way by a lot of other REALLY SMART PEOPLE. LOL I love that comment. And other times you just make a comment that basically lets them know ahead of time it’s not even worth it making negative comments or trying to contradict what your saying. You don’t know how much I appreciate The response and the advice you have given me. Thanks again. I just want to make some really cool stuff on my lathe and incorporate resins into it as much as possible and do it the most effective and efficient ways possible. You provide a lot of that for your subscribers. Thanks bob
That's is good information thank you
Larry Cook Thank you for watching.. glad you enjoyed it!! 👍
Thanks for sharing. I need to do that to some copilot.
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I really like your videos. I'm just starting out. I have a question about the top to your vacuum chamber. I need a new top to mine the first time I used it the top cracked. Do you know where I could get a new one? Thanks
Nice... cactus never herded of
Nice video, thank you.
JEFFREY SHAW Yiu are very welcome!! 👍👊
Now that’s pretty cool, interesting stuff epoxy resin 🤔👍
Sumo's Projects now I just need some exotic burls... 😄😄😄Thanks Buddy!!
Good video Jake.
Daniel Parker Thank you Daniel.. I’m glad you enjoyed it!! 👍👍👊
Just starting, great vidio
Thank you Carl 💪💪
Excellent video. Semper Fi from a fellow Texan!
jbn0613 HooRah Brother!! 👍👍👊
I like that there is so little waste with the Cactus Juice. Guess I'll have to try it out!
Awesome Bryan.. Thank you for watching 👍
I'd kill for that shop!
715rdmail 😄😄 Thank you!
Thanks for the vid man. I been needing this exact video. Im not familiar with this kind of stuff but i am familiar with negative pressure, that valve with the air diffuser is whats called an air bleed. When that valve is closed and the pot is under vacuum (Negative pressure) you know your sucking air from the pot and not the room with the pump. When the other valve (inlet valve) is closed (the pump can be off but doesnt have to be yet), and the air bleed is opened, the pot (under vacuum) essentially sucks air back in from the room to come back up to atmosphere (14.7 psi, 1013 mbar, or 760 mmHg its all the same at sea level) thanks for video man i definitely want to start doin this. Thank you for the links and all the help.
Mull Miller Awesome!!! This is a fun process.. and the end result is pretty cool!!
Hey man, also the link for the vacuum pot says that the chambers are not compatible with cactus juice? But i guess they are??
Mull Miller You are correct... the ones with a glass top will work.. plastic tops will crack.
It seems that you can’t buy denatured alcohol here any more, what can you use instead?
Thanks so much for making understandable videos! Now, I bought my Cactus Juice from William Woodright in Ontario, it didn't come with any instructions and the instructions for my vacuum pump say not to run it for an extended period of time. In saying that, I would assume that running this process every couple of hours as Ryan Kirk mentioned would be ok?
Gisele Grenier The directions say to run the pump for the entire process.. I’ve done several running the pump nonstop. I just change the pump oil after every use. I’m kind of curious if there is a difference. Maybe someone can test it both ways. I’m glad I could help ya out! 👍👍
This was used extensively for M1 and other rifles for WWII as the wood could not wait to be used. They used 55 gallon drums and processed many many rifle stocks at a time. I started looking into this in the 70's. What a cool process.
Martin Eastburn That’s pretty interesting!! I had no idea!
I learned a good bit about this technique, thanks for taking the time to share.
Tim Boger Thank you for watching Tim!! Glad I could help!!👍👍
Good video and you included info that was missing in other videos that I've seen. I've never done this process but I'm interested in it, though I do have a question for you or other viewers with more experience. Since your piece of maple is now more resin than wood, what kind of glue would be used to glue it to another piece of stabilized wood and/or a piece of un-stabilized wood? Thanks.
I’m not exactly sure but I think any wood glue would still stick.. or an epoxy used as glue will for sure work !!
Jake, you have opened up a brand new window for me. I really enjoyed your video/presentation. It was clear and organized. Good shots and microphone with the video. I do have a question for you or anybody else you may recommend to to answer. I came across ( very lucky) of 3 slabs of 5in thick x 28 in wide x 36-40inches of side cut of spalded maple from a city cut tree. The tree was approximately 80 years old. Two of the slaves have on the tall ends about 5 to 6 “ of punky wood, not falling apart, still holding but could break off if attempting to sand vigorously. Is there a possibility to stabilize that punky side in the present size ? I’d hate to cut,it it’s so beautiful. Can you help me with your wisdom?
I’m not sure what to do on huge pieces.. I know there are wood stabilizers or some kind resins that will soak in... you might want to search on here a bit more for something like that.. I’m glad you enjoyed the video.. it is a pretty fun process. 👍👊
Good video. Very informative. Is that an NRL Melbourne Storm banner in the background? I'm a Tigers fan.
Doc Watson My Buddy Dirk from Sumo’s Projects gave me the flag! I’m glad you liked the video!👍👍
Super information. Where did you get the 5 gallon bucket with measurements on it?
Cheryl Conoly Thank you.. I think I bought the bucket at Lowe’s. 👍👍
Subscribed. just bought the same 5 gallon chamber and a 5 gallon pressure pot so I can start doing hybrid hollow forms.
Richard Ollis Thank you for watching, I’m glad you enjoyed it. I can’t wait to see what you do!
@@JakeThompson I am curious if you create the hollow form first prior to stabilizing.
Dean Yonkovich you can do that if the burl is strong enough to stay together on the lathe.
Ah.. a Spurs Fan!!!
Subscribed.
Awesome.. it was given to me by Jamie Page.. and I have visited the stadium too.. super cool
Jake - great information. The folks that make the chamber you are using in the video recommend never using it with cactus juice as they say it will damage the plastic parts in the vacuum pump. Have you heard that?
Cactus juice is hard on things.. I got the vacuum chamber with the glass lid because the ones with plastic lids will crack and break. As far as the pump.. I change the oil after every use.. I’ve had mine for 2 years.
Another great informative video for Us newbs.... do you have a video of that piece that you have worked
Peter V I’m glad you enjoy the videos.. here’s what I did with the piece I stabilized! th-cam.com/video/QCQnWCowSWM/w-d-xo.html
Wait, you didn't make the mallet! Thanks for the tips. I'm cooking my first stabilized blanks. Wish me luck! :D
Ted Weddell I did make them later, here’s the video!! Glad you enjoyed! 👍👍
th-cam.com/video/QCQnWCowSWM/w-d-xo.html
Excellent video. Some vacuum chambers have the valve on the side, and some on top. Is there any advantage to one over the other?
True North The one that has the valve on the top will give you more capacity.. but when you are using cactus juice.. you need one with a glass top.. it will say not compatible with cactus juice.. but if you get the plastic top it will crack and leak with cactus juice.
Great video. Very easy to follow and understand. If the wood is to be used for knife scales, is it best to cut down to size before stabilizing. Wasn't sure if the resin would dull a blade quicker.
Thank you Jason.. I’m not sure if will it dull the saw blades quicker or not. But I’m sure when you dry the wood before the vacuum chamber is used.. there will be some warping, so I would cut them to size after drying at least.. I like stabilizing big pieces and then cutting what I want out of them.. I love using the scrap pieces 👍👍
That’s an awesome tutorial! I have just started stabilizing wood for epoxy projects. I have seen some ppl put the pressure in the vessel and isolate it and turn off the pump. I tried it and it worked, but idk if it worked as good as leaving the pump running. Have you done a comparison in the two methods? This was a great video!
Thank you Heath.. I haven’t tried a comparison between pump off and pump on.. with the new formula, the bubbles are gone in an hour or so anyway.. the directions say to leave the pump on, so I do… The old formula took forever but now it’s better 👍
Outstanding video. Thanks.. now I know. =) Liked and Subscribed.
Awesome!! I’m glad you enjoyed!! Welcome aboard!! 👍👍
Interesting
Allen Oxendine Thanks for watching Allen.. 👍👍
Very good video. Lots of good info. I’ve never tried this. How do you know when it’s done in the oven? If you mentioned it, I must have missed it. I know you said it was in for four hours, but I didn’t hear how you knew it was done. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for watching.. the wood will look dry when it’s done.. just know that you can’t overcook it.. so if you are unsure, just go a bit longer