the idea of augments is so cool, however I think the implementation could be better. I think what they should have done, is maybe have more limited augment slots, but instead of being placed out and give an AOE effect, I would rather they attach to the crafting bench and change them visually. you could even have large and small slots etc. this would make it more clear what they do and would be easier to communicate to the player. I like the idea of having dedicated rooms towards different types of crafting. I actually love the detailed crafting in this game.
So many of the nightengale youtube video's are clickbait trash. I appreciate the in depth perspective, and I'm waiting in anticipation for your next vids on this stuff!
The interrelationships between crafting materials, surrounding objects and recipes is such an awesome feature of this game. Coupled with the travel between realms to gather what you need to maximise your gear is just awesome. For example, I'm yet to see anyone talk about making Level 25 gear when L20 is typically the highest available with standard materials. Can't wait to play more to see how far this can be pushed and discover other secrets lost in the Realms.
I really hate the whole idea of overfilling augments. Even if they want to limit the amount of buffs a single station can have, you shouldn't lose access to recipes just based on the placement of augments, especially when there are dozens of augments in the game. It's just such a clunky system.
the fact there are limits at all is such a weird decision, like buffing the bench for better equipment stats or crafting speed makes sense I guess but actual recipes. This dev team is just being sloppy with their decisions which sucks cause I'm personally am having fun with the game but can't recommend it to anyone
@daemonbyte6818 yea for some people thats a good chunk of change. This game is fun but undercooked. I got money to burn so im willing to play it but others won't be that forgiving
I had I make a second station for more augments once the first was full. Not a fun design. I love the game but they need to streamline this crafting augment businesss
I really appreciate you making this video. I am really loving this game so far, but at the same time, some of it seems over-complicated. It will help (slightly) if the recipes would show a picture of the actual item - and some don't even have a resemblence (yet) and just have the big "N" on the recipe "card". I could kind of tell how the augments were attached to more than one "bench" by the green lines when I would try to find a place to put it down, but that's about all I understood. There's too many augments that go with too many craft stations, and you only have so much space to put everything - unless you want to build a whole flippin' factory! But anyway... thank you SO much for explaining this so clearly!
the range on the augments is just horrid. I had to stack them all on top each other just to get all my augments working. xD Also i noticed they have place holder icons on alot of their spells,buildings, and etc. I hope they fix this asap
Do you think there's a benefit to organizing your base so that crafting tables are in range of all the augmentations? Or just layout the base as you want and then craft multiple augments if you need the augment for multiple tables? I've started doing it the first way... A ring of crafting tables with a cluster of augments sitting in the middle... And it seems to work but it's super ugly. So maybe id be better off setting the tables out in a more spaced out manner and then making copies of the augments for the tables that need them? Thoughts?
The crafting system in this game is exhausting. We spent hours last night trying to work out why we couldn’t craft the climbing picks. Seems we had too many augments applied to our refined workbench. Thanks for the vid, helped us progress.
Thank you for this video! Actually good content I can use! On a side note I’m so sick of seeing people hate on a 26 dollar game. It’s early access. Literally says everything the game is right on steam but people still cry. Over a 26 dollar game.
How are you moving the crafting stations? Also it's very annoying to place a new augmentation down and lose recipes. When I add new things to the work bench in my garage I don't suddenly lose the ability to do things.
I am struggling to get my tools up to level 100. I did craft a pretty decent handgun with some magnesium I had found. Thank you for the video. Good info.
What I find frustrating is that many craftable item are unlocked by story missions but they don't tell you which ones. You just find out you are missing an ingredient that requires something be crafted and you are like "How do I craft that?" You check all your buildable crafting stations and augments and nothing. You travel to hard realms hoping the Essence Trader has the recipe and.....nothing. They need to clearly tell you what missions and/or card requirement is necessary to acquire the recipe.
Thanks for posting, I'm still struggling to find other clothing. I built the training dummy, but no idea where to get the recipe for the scouts clothing.
I’m actually loving the augment system. Making multiple benches and choosing which augments for which bench is such a crunchy Grundy system and I love it
Its way too complicated, and no proper guide to explain it all. People complain about it all being server sided, but to me these vague augments etc are way more annoying to me, thanks for the video
I fundet it easier to just make several crafting benches of the same type, it's crap system, but if you have 2 benches a bit apart, you can have the extras between the 2,both need, and than the ones you want only one of them to use, place it on the other side, æout of reach...
This just seems purposely obtuse. I'm a fan of a deep crafting system, but the deeper or more nuanced the game system the more helpful and polished the UI needs to be.
games not great but also not bad. solid 6/10 id give it a 7.5 if i didnt constantly get kicked from server going through portals which you need to do often. 75% disconnect is insanity.
I wish the game was a little more clear where to craft things. After a while. With the amount of benches/augments, tiers of materials, refined items, ect. It starts to feel like a crafting simulator. At what point is the system too bogged down and convoluted.
Honestly, there are so many games that do everything so much better, it's hard to find the nerve to waste time on this one. I'm still 11.7 hours in and can't bring myself to keep playing. I can feel my time wasting away when I try to play it. And when you break it down, it's just a crafting system that could've been done so much easier and better in the end. On top of that, there's no gameplay worth the crafting grind to be found afterwards. The combat is clunky and more annoying than fun (I rather play Darktide for combat) and the exploration is also clunky and mostly annoying (I rather play Valheim, Palworld or Enshrouded for that part). While I'm confident that it could be fixed, they'd have to pay me alot of money to tell them how, because it also has alot of potential.
@@Jade-PG Well, I could say "that's how bad it is", but I'm rather talking about the way the traversing of the map feels. If I have to swap to the freaking umbrella each time before even being able to glide, it just feels bad. And I just don't like it when games put me in a wheel chair and tell me to climb stairs. Especially when there are other games out there, that just let you ride the elevator instead.
@@Jade-PG my guy wrote two whole paragraphs and you focus on just one word? OP made very good points and you reply 'lol palworld bad' cmon dude, you can do better.
i agree and dont agree, with the rest he said, it was just funny seiing palworld mentioned, one f teh most basic games ever, i dont need to convince anyone of their opinion and i aint got tiem all day replyingh to every single point, this si a guide video too not a review so just another random hater who doesnt like the game cool
For me its the oposite I have literally all of the upgrades for my crafting stations but NO! recipes for crafting better stuff and the last times I did some of the pois in some of the world i only got essences and no new recipes ... the concept of the game is atm a little bit broken...
One thing me and my brother noticed is, even if you have all upgrades for a crafting station you sometimes are not able to craft things even if you have the recipe for them. The reason for this is stupid programming, like for the workbench you can have 7 upgrades running. Unfortunately there are far more than 7 upgrades and if they are all nearby the workbench the game randomly pics 7 which are not necessarily the ones you actually need. So you have to put all upgrades far away from the workbench and only the one you actually need nearby, which makes crafting a little bit annoying if you reach mid/end game.
I want to love Nightingale, but this crafting system is just so cumbersome its annoying. I like complex crafting, but this isnt just complex, this is tedious. Having tbe augments in base should be enough to unlock the recipe. Its enough to have to have then bench, have the recipe, have the materials, and have the augment. Shouldnt have to deal with "well this augment I placed on this bench is closer to that bench, so it knocked out that other augment that I have on another bench because I need it for both of those benches, but this augment blah blah blah." Nightmare
the idea of augments is so cool, however I think the implementation could be better. I think what they should have done, is maybe have more limited augment slots, but instead of being placed out and give an AOE effect, I would rather they attach to the crafting bench and change them visually. you could even have large and small slots etc. this would make it more clear what they do and would be easier to communicate to the player.
I like the idea of having dedicated rooms towards different types of crafting. I actually love the detailed crafting in this game.
This game has a good foundation but it definitely needs a touch of declutterring.
So many of the nightengale youtube video's are clickbait trash. I appreciate the in depth perspective, and I'm waiting in anticipation for your next vids on this stuff!
Man this is complicated. Thanks for the video. Now I finally understand what I am doing !
The interrelationships between crafting materials, surrounding objects and recipes is such an awesome feature of this game. Coupled with the travel between realms to gather what you need to maximise your gear is just awesome.
For example, I'm yet to see anyone talk about making Level 25 gear when L20 is typically the highest available with standard materials. Can't wait to play more to see how far this can be pushed and discover other secrets lost in the Realms.
I agree. It does need some streamlining and tuning, but the complexity is just right imo.
I really hate the whole idea of overfilling augments. Even if they want to limit the amount of buffs a single station can have, you shouldn't lose access to recipes just based on the placement of augments, especially when there are dozens of augments in the game. It's just such a clunky system.
the fact there are limits at all is such a weird decision, like buffing the bench for better equipment stats or crafting speed makes sense I guess but actual recipes. This dev team is just being sloppy with their decisions which sucks cause I'm personally am having fun with the game but can't recommend it to anyone
@@Eeyore554you’re having fun but can’t recommend? It’s TWENTY SIX DOLLARS
@daemonbyte6818 yea for some people thats a good chunk of change. This game is fun but undercooked. I got money to burn so im willing to play it but others won't be that forgiving
I had I make a second station for more augments once the first was full. Not a fun design. I love the game but they need to streamline this crafting augment businesss
I really appreciate you making this video. I am really loving this game so far, but at the same time, some of it seems over-complicated. It will help (slightly) if the recipes would show a picture of the actual item - and some don't even have a resemblence (yet) and just have the big "N" on the recipe "card". I could kind of tell how the augments were attached to more than one "bench" by the green lines when I would try to find a place to put it down, but that's about all I understood. There's too many augments that go with too many craft stations, and you only have so much space to put everything - unless you want to build a whole flippin' factory! But anyway... thank you SO much for explaining this so clearly!
the range on the augments is just horrid. I had to stack them all on top each other just to get all my augments working. xD
Also i noticed they have place holder icons on alot of their spells,buildings, and etc. I hope they fix this asap
Do you think there's a benefit to organizing your base so that crafting tables are in range of all the augmentations?
Or just layout the base as you want and then craft multiple augments if you need the augment for multiple tables?
I've started doing it the first way... A ring of crafting tables with a cluster of augments sitting in the middle... And it seems to work but it's super ugly.
So maybe id be better off setting the tables out in a more spaced out manner and then making copies of the augments for the tables that need them?
Thoughts?
Excellent video, Jade! I was getting confused with this myself.
That shit with the augments is confusing as F. I'm glad you pointed it out, I had one too many augments and couldn't see the recipe I just bought.
OMG thank you I thought I was going insane, they 100% need to change this system
This explains why my tower of augments, surrounded by all the crafting stations, is missing a recipe sometimes. Not enough slots yet.
The crafting system in this game is exhausting. We spent hours last night trying to work out why we couldn’t craft the climbing picks. Seems we had too many augments applied to our refined workbench. Thanks for the vid, helped us progress.
Thank you for this video! Actually good content I can use! On a side note I’m so sick of seeing people hate on a 26 dollar game. It’s early access. Literally says everything the game is right on steam but people still cry. Over a 26 dollar game.
Thanks for the info fella, this was melting my head. Nice one.
Any time!
How are you moving the crafting stations?
Also it's very annoying to place a new augmentation down and lose recipes. When I add new things to the work bench in my garage I don't suddenly lose the ability to do things.
Thank You VERY much for this it has been VRY helpful.
Does the artisan minor realm card help with this at all? Or just help if an item is outside or not?
I am struggling to get my tools up to level 100. I did craft a pretty decent handgun with some magnesium I had found. Thank you for the video. Good info.
How do you get the refined maul? Can't seem to find how you unlock it.
Brilliant video. Helped me immensely.
Thanks for this Mr J. Ill need to look over this video later, trying to follow along while cooking dinner isnt working for me 😂
The game is good so far and has the potential to be great. The realms allow for a huge diversity of biomes.
Where do you get the excellent sewing table?
watch/ascended realms
What I find frustrating is that many craftable item are unlocked by story missions but they don't tell you which ones. You just find out you are missing an ingredient that requires something be crafted and you are like "How do I craft that?" You check all your buildable crafting stations and augments and nothing. You travel to hard realms hoping the Essence Trader has the recipe and.....nothing. They need to clearly tell you what missions and/or card requirement is necessary to acquire the recipe.
Thanks for posting, I'm still struggling to find other clothing. I built the training dummy, but no idea where to get the recipe for the scouts clothing.
triple check that trader page otherwise wait for my video loool
Do I just need a Roof over my stations to avoid the penalty? The changing skills when moving the station was interesting, thank you.
ya
Hello Jade i was wondering if you unlock an Asian building recipes yet or is it even in the game right when i saw in the trailer
yes afetr you access the watch
Thank you!! This helps so much
Glad it helped!
I can appreciate them trying to do something different but I hate this so much 😂
I need a video on where to find the best resources to make gear but love the video about the augment
I had to do Trial And Error myself to actually understand how this all works on my own.
I’m actually loving the augment system. Making multiple benches and choosing which augments for which bench is such a crunchy Grundy system and I love it
well it shows you which augment helps what so it's a really simple process once you actually find out you need them
I am struggling hard to find t2 ingots/ore, Any Tips?
use teh glossary tellls you where every ore is
Its way too complicated, and no proper guide to explain it all. People complain about it all being server sided, but to me these vague augments etc are way more annoying to me, thanks for the video
Intense
I fundet it easier to just make several crafting benches of the same type, it's crap system, but if you have 2 benches a bit apart, you can have the extras between the 2,both need, and than the ones you want only one of them to use, place it on the other side, æout of reach...
They took the best parts of Valheim crafting and made it bloated, obtuse, and annoying
Hopefully they will tutorialize it a bit more, it's just released to early access.
This just seems purposely obtuse. I'm a fan of a deep crafting system, but the deeper or more nuanced the game system the more helpful and polished the UI needs to be.
wait you can move augmensts I've destroyed so many things!!!
games not great but also not bad. solid 6/10 id give it a 7.5 if i didnt constantly get kicked from server going through portals which you need to do often. 75% disconnect is insanity.
Wtf are you repeating your boring ass take on multiple videos
I wish the game was a little more clear where to craft things. After a while. With the amount of benches/augments, tiers of materials, refined items, ect. It starts to feel like a crafting simulator. At what point is the system too bogged down and convoluted.
Honestly, there are so many games that do everything so much better, it's hard to find the nerve to waste time on this one. I'm still 11.7 hours in and can't bring myself to keep playing. I can feel my time wasting away when I try to play it. And when you break it down, it's just a crafting system that could've been done so much easier and better in the end. On top of that, there's no gameplay worth the crafting grind to be found afterwards. The combat is clunky and more annoying than fun (I rather play Darktide for combat) and the exploration is also clunky and mostly annoying (I rather play Valheim, Palworld or Enshrouded for that part).
While I'm confident that it could be fixed, they'd have to pay me alot of money to tell them how, because it also has alot of potential.
palworld? loool teh most boring generic map in existance, i cant trust this take dude
@@Jade-PG Well, I could say "that's how bad it is", but I'm rather talking about the way the traversing of the map feels. If I have to swap to the freaking umbrella each time before even being able to glide, it just feels bad. And I just don't like it when games put me in a wheel chair and tell me to climb stairs. Especially when there are other games out there, that just let you ride the elevator instead.
@@Jade-PG my guy wrote two whole paragraphs and you focus on just one word? OP made very good points and you reply 'lol palworld bad' cmon dude, you can do better.
i agree and dont agree, with the rest he said, it was just funny seiing palworld mentioned, one f teh most basic games ever, i dont need to convince anyone of their opinion and i aint got tiem all day replyingh to every single point, this si a guide video too not a review so just another random hater who doesnt like the game cool
Oh god I’m soooo confused now lol 😅
For me its the oposite I have literally all of the upgrades for my crafting stations but NO! recipes for crafting better stuff and the last times I did some of the pois in some of the world i only got essences and no new recipes ... the concept of the game is atm a little bit broken...
One thing me and my brother noticed is, even if you have all upgrades for a crafting station you sometimes are not able to craft things even if you have the recipe for them. The reason for this is stupid programming, like for the workbench you can have 7 upgrades running. Unfortunately there are far more than 7 upgrades and if they are all nearby the workbench the game randomly pics 7 which are not necessarily the ones you actually need. So you have to put all upgrades far away from the workbench and only the one you actually need nearby, which makes crafting a little bit annoying if you reach mid/end game.
they did way to much. the crafting feels so all over the place and messy
Yup I'm overwhelmed and this just makes it extra grind. Guess that's all this game is
I want to love Nightingale, but this crafting system is just so cumbersome its annoying. I like complex crafting, but this isnt just complex, this is tedious. Having tbe augments in base should be enough to unlock the recipe. Its enough to have to have then bench, have the recipe, have the materials, and have the augment. Shouldnt have to deal with "well this augment I placed on this bench is closer to that bench, so it knocked out that other augment that I have on another bench because I need it for both of those benches, but this augment blah blah blah." Nightmare
This just made me quit. This really needs some time to cook