While other warframe TH-camrs are saying the guns are bad because they compare them to the meta weapons and don’t like that they aren’t as good as them. You just like to use any weapon and no matter how good or bad it is you find a way to make it fun. This is why your the better warframe TH-camr cause you play the game to have fun and not tell other to use these weapons and not use these other weapons
I think noone can reach to sobel new aug now. They just build kuva sobek like normal sobek, that will be bad in many way. Imo, just build kuva sobek as normal shotgun and we will see how good it is as normal shotgun
So the reason acid shells isn't good without saryn is because the explosion applies BEFORE the steel path health multiplier. Meaning it's doing the same damage as normal star chart.
@@cyanide7270 Toxic Lash applies to Acid Shell's explosion damage, and scales with the Toxin and Faction mods on your Sobek. This basically double and triple dips Toxin Lash and it's dots, for a super effective combo. On top of all this, Sayrn Spores will have reduced enemy armor hugely, ensuring the explosion isn't resisted. I still like Acid Shells even without Sayrn, the extra aoe damage is always appreciated and it's great when you kill an eximus or other heavy unit.
You may wanna give the kuva hek a new look too, apparently scattered justice works on it now and that means archons and acolytes are gonna have a bad time
I just finished putting the 5th forma into mine and damn it is so good. Granted I'm using a riven with Fire Rate, Cold and Multishot, on a Toxin base, so the elemental situation is taken care of with 1 mod. Just so you know, Acid Shells works off the bleed procs from Hunter Munitions, so one good headshot into an Eximus unit will blow up and entire group, even on SP grineer units.
never used armor strip, and the great thing is that SOON tm we will get the armor update so partial strip with just corro or just heat will feel amazing
Chilling reload right away on this bad boy, only 5 cost, gets cold for viral, and helps the reload speed, granted 2.1s is much better than 2.7s of normal sobek already and merciless still helps but i run amalgam shotgun barrage and reinforced bond so i dump the magazine FAST
Was super interested when they released this, thinking of slapping magnetic on it as the progenitor so have more coverage for an upfront build, thanks for the helpful video MC!
shattered* justice. scattered is hek mod. which, in case anyone doesn't know, they made scattered justice compatible with kuva hek. it stacks with galvanized hell.
Found a riven for it right before the lich. With 7 preoccupied mod slots I went for a toxin one. When you're like me and put grouping abilities on e.g. nova or nekros, acid shells is a must. That new augment also looks mandatory. Then 2x crit, 2x multishot, savvy...
I almost feel like this is a weapon where you want a toxin progenitor for easier corrosive and viral. Can also then only mod magnetic for deleting corpus.
What if i tell you, that Primary Frostbite and Cascadia Flare can be procced from any source outside of weapon. Like from companion for example. UPD. Conjunction Voltage too.
if I ever get back to warframe, this is the first thing I'm getting. I already loved the normal sobek, even keeping the default fire rate and reload speed, and I'd love the kuva sobek even more because it has more crit, therefore, as shown in the video, a lot more possible builds I'd like to see this gun raw dogged with all 3 augments
So two things that I hate about the OG sobek: 2.8, second reload speed, and low fire rate. Primary merciless and reperter clip are both awesome for this gun. Mix in with some gas and electric status that mixes with the high impact damage. It's nice not mention I do run acid shell and this makes the gun more potent on killing enemies. I used to use a lot of volt specifically for the speeds reload increase. I understand sayrn abuses acid shell which is cool but this how I have used it over the 4000 I have in this game. Volt and the Sobek are great together when use this combo. I recommend it, and if you don't want to spam speed for reload speed I recommend wisp with her haste.
Been toying around with it, as sobek has been my favorite shotgun for years and I've been waiting for this upgrade for just as long. (Now to continue waiting for a marelok upgrade...although it wouldn't be the same without it being the vaykor, should just get a riven.) Something of an issue I'm having is that acid shells isn't that great, I seem to lose damage when I have it equipped. But it just doesn't feel right without it. Probably won't use it in steel path anyways, so not like it matters all too much.
On my first attempt to get a Kuva Sobek: - it took an hour and a half to find - no ephemera - 27% radiation bonus - it required a Jahu requiem (the only one I don't have at the moment) Yeah, suffice it to say I converted that one. Lovely introduction to the Kuva Sobek that nearly killed my interest in the weapon... When I try again, I'm going to make sure I have two of every requiem and I am not settling for anything less than a 40% bonus (assuming the ephemera doesn't pop up)
My dude, i had to run 3 times a Kuva Lich just to have a good valence percentage of 54% + ephemeral The ephemeral was a bonus... So, i was able to max out to 60% of damage
I tend to run it with gas electric but i am a huge fan of gas honestly. Grineer weapons always seem to suffer from mod capacity syndrome. They never have enough mod slots compared to corpus weapons in my experience to feel good without new mods tbh.
I wanna see a Tenet Glaxion build using an Impact proginator and Internal Bleeding, all that status chance its gotta be a better hunter munitions build.
Legit got it first Lich I rolled. Problem was, I forgot Hydroid (y'know, the corrosive frame) was a magnetic progenitor so it's currently useless (in fairness I forgot progenitors were even a thing. Lich farming sucks and I try to avoid it).
yeah hunter munitions is weird on shotguns, you rather put some heat damage or something else, nice build, i would've tried viral slash again at the end, corrosive is great but slash+viral at high rate is insanely good
@noahedenborg4221 ocucor gets its augment mod and everyone goes crazy about it. That was 1 mod too. 200% multishot and the justice effect isn't some tiny buff my guy
Idk if I broke my sobek but with a riven and two elemental mods my sobek does Heat,radiation,magnetic,viral with both acid shells and shattering justice Gal hell, gal savvy The riven is blast with punch through I might swap out hunter munition For the upcoming mod. I would have liked an alternative fire mode or maybe an incarnon genesis, who knows this weapon has to be good/meta because it’s the only weapon in this game with more than 2 mods that are exclusive to it… cheers everyone
Awwww, I thought you were going to replicate your Acid Shells builds from last week with this one to see even more stupid explosions, but only tried the mod alone :(
I think there’s an unaddressed question in this: how important is the innate status in this build? Because in this case you have a fairly high innate heat that you’re pumping up further with Blaze, and that’s going to affect the status distribution. Does this want to push heat as high as possible for those procs, or is that an afterthought?
@@noahedenborg4221 You're right that I used the wrong term there (brain fart due to multitasking), but I think you miss my point in asking. It wasn't a "what's the best element" question, it was a question about the intended proc-ratio. To use a different example: for the typical slash/viral setup, the ideal is to have around twice as much slash damage as viral damage so the slash status will proc twice as often. In this case, I saw that MC is running innate heat and then bumping that up with Blaze. Without the innate element, he'd have roughly a 2 to 1 ratio between Corrosive and Heat procs. With it, however, it's closer to a 1.2 to 1 ratio (220.5 Corrosive to 170.9 Heat damage), which translates to a nearly equivalent proc ratio (which you can see in-game by hovering over Status/Projectile). The question is whether such a close ratio between Corrosive and Heat is desirable or not for this build.
Just like the original Sobek, this weapon is decent at best and underwhelming at worst. Gonna farm for the Glaxion next and I already KNOW it's gonna be my favourite of the two
@@OfficialFo if a gun needs a frame like saryn to be ok its not a good gun 😅 maybe for regular missions but in SP it dies before the enemies reach Level 1k
@@OfficialFo Well thats true but i think everyone was hoping that the Kuva version will be much better but sadly it isnt, the Glaxion on the other side will be amazing when Jade shadows drop with the cold changes
While other warframe TH-camrs are saying the guns are bad because they compare them to the meta weapons and don’t like that they aren’t as good as them. You just like to use any weapon and no matter how good or bad it is you find a way to make it fun. This is why your the better warframe TH-camr cause you play the game to have fun and not tell other to use these weapons and not use these other weapons
Absolutely agree
Him fucking around with the mods also helps explain what works on weapons and what doesn't. Feels natural
Amen to that, frik the meta, let me have fun with silly/wonky weapons.
I think noone can reach to sobel new aug now. They just build kuva sobek like normal sobek, that will be bad in many way.
Imo, just build kuva sobek as normal shotgun and we will see how good it is as normal shotgun
4:39 Bro went full BigSmoke 💀
hahahahahahaahah
lmao i died there
What, there is a kuva Sobek? Hold my Endo.
Freshly released on wednesday a few days ago! :D
Along with Tenet Glaxion. Get farming my dude.
Just dropped with the newest nightwave a couple days ago
So the reason acid shells isn't good without saryn is because the explosion applies BEFORE the steel path health multiplier. Meaning it's doing the same damage as normal star chart.
That explains a lot
So how does using Saryn change that? Does she somehow make it apply after the multiplier?
@@cyanide7270Toxic Lash applies to the explosions scaling multiplicatively with enemy health. The explosions also can help spread spores further.
@@cyanide7270 no it just does so much damage that the multiplier doesn't matter.
@@cyanide7270 Toxic Lash applies to Acid Shell's explosion damage, and scales with the Toxin and Faction mods on your Sobek. This basically double and triple dips Toxin Lash and it's dots, for a super effective combo. On top of all this, Sayrn Spores will have reduced enemy armor hugely, ensuring the explosion isn't resisted.
I still like Acid Shells even without Sayrn, the extra aoe damage is always appreciated and it's great when you kill an eximus or other heavy unit.
You may wanna give the kuva hek a new look too, apparently scattered justice works on it now and that means archons and acolytes are gonna have a bad time
Haya
Is this a telegtaphed attack?
@@CaptainBoxtrot you failed the parry if it is.
@@samreddig8819 proceeds to get one shotted
I just finished putting the 5th forma into mine and damn it is so good. Granted I'm using a riven with Fire Rate, Cold and Multishot, on a Toxin base, so the elemental situation is taken care of with 1 mod. Just so you know, Acid Shells works off the bleed procs from Hunter Munitions, so one good headshot into an Eximus unit will blow up and entire group, even on SP grineer units.
never used armor strip, and the great thing is that SOON tm we will get the armor update so partial strip with just corro or just heat will feel amazing
Chilling reload right away on this bad boy, only 5 cost, gets cold for viral, and helps the reload speed, granted 2.1s is much better than 2.7s of normal sobek already and merciless still helps but i run amalgam shotgun barrage and reinforced bond so i dump the magazine FAST
Was super interested when they released this, thinking of slapping magnetic on it as the progenitor so have more coverage for an upfront build, thanks for the helpful video MC!
Acid shells
Also scattered justice on kuva hek is possible
no.
shattered* justice. scattered is hek mod. which, in case anyone doesn't know, they made scattered justice compatible with kuva hek. it stacks with galvanized hell.
@@NitroCheese49 pellets with full stacks... It's so beautiful
@NitroCheese I said scatterd for hek cause you can put it on kuva hek now
@@ImDaRealBoi it says 37 pellets full stacks for me. What other multishot mods u using
gotta get that clip delegation and test it again cuz 225 multishot and status chance sound crazy
You running inaros is actually great with acid shells. You can mass armor strip with your build then run some viral heat then nuke enemies
*_BADD RAA KUVA SOBEK_*
Why does it sound like a divine nuclear weapon?
I thought that it sounded like a secret Russian experiment.
@@mysterytechno3770 Byed'ra Kbja Sobjek lol
My Bramma Lich was Cobb Raa, I don't know how rare it is but damn it's cool those two names lined up
4:53 the moment of relief.
Found a riven for it right before the lich. With 7 preoccupied mod slots I went for a toxin one.
When you're like me and put grouping abilities on e.g. nova or nekros, acid shells is a must.
That new augment also looks mandatory. Then 2x crit, 2x multishot, savvy...
I almost feel like this is a weapon where you want a toxin progenitor for easier corrosive and viral. Can also then only mod magnetic for deleting corpus.
Arcane Tempo is a must with this on the frame. Saves a mod slot on the weapon
What if i tell you, that Primary Frostbite and Cascadia Flare can be procced from any source outside of weapon. Like from companion for example.
UPD. Conjunction Voltage too.
if I ever get back to warframe, this is the first thing I'm getting. I already loved the normal sobek, even keeping the default fire rate and reload speed, and I'd love the kuva sobek even more because it has more crit, therefore, as shown in the video, a lot more possible builds
I'd like to see this gun raw dogged with all 3 augments
So two things that I hate about the OG sobek: 2.8, second reload speed, and low fire rate. Primary merciless and reperter clip are both awesome for this gun. Mix in with some gas and electric status that mixes with the high impact damage. It's nice not mention I do run acid shell and this makes the gun more potent on killing enemies. I used to use a lot of volt specifically for the speeds reload increase. I understand sayrn abuses acid shell which is cool but this how I have used it over the 4000 I have in this game. Volt and the Sobek are great together when use this combo. I recommend it, and if you don't want to spam speed for reload speed I recommend wisp with her haste.
I’m really tempted to try a Corrosive/Cold set up with this. Surprise that wasn’t mentioned
Let's see how the new augment plays with it, once it's available.
You could try to push it to over a 100% status with Scattering Justice 🤔
Been toying around with it, as sobek has been my favorite shotgun for years and I've been waiting for this upgrade for just as long. (Now to continue waiting for a marelok upgrade...although it wouldn't be the same without it being the vaykor, should just get a riven.) Something of an issue I'm having is that acid shells isn't that great, I seem to lose damage when I have it equipped. But it just doesn't feel right without it. Probably won't use it in steel path anyways, so not like it matters all too much.
On my first attempt to get a Kuva Sobek:
- it took an hour and a half to find
- no ephemera
- 27% radiation bonus
- it required a Jahu requiem (the only one I don't have at the moment)
Yeah, suffice it to say I converted that one. Lovely introduction to the Kuva Sobek that nearly killed my interest in the weapon...
When I try again, I'm going to make sure I have two of every requiem and I am not settling for anything less than a 40% bonus (assuming the ephemera doesn't pop up)
My dude, i had to run 3 times a Kuva Lich just to have a good valence percentage of 54% + ephemeral
The ephemeral was a bonus...
So, i was able to max out to 60% of damage
@@Voldrim359 On the bright side, the converted lich is max level (blame my laziness, I've been relying on Oull's), so it's not all bad.
I tend to run it with gas electric but i am a huge fan of gas honestly. Grineer weapons always seem to suffer from mod capacity syndrome. They never have enough mod slots compared to corpus weapons in my experience to feel good without new mods tbh.
I wanna see a Tenet Glaxion build using an Impact proginator and Internal Bleeding, all that status chance its gotta be a better hunter munitions build.
I actually use impact tenet glaxion but need higher valence fusion 25% on first but shows high promise for sure.
Love your accent ❤ and your warframe videos
Please do the Ambassador! It needs some love..
You not using separate configs when testing builds hurts me soul mate
The MIGHTY SEER foretold of this day! Next we need a tenet dera and dual MIGHTY SEERS
Legit got it first Lich I rolled. Problem was, I forgot Hydroid (y'know, the corrosive frame) was a magnetic progenitor so it's currently useless (in fairness I forgot progenitors were even a thing. Lich farming sucks and I try to avoid it).
0:27 tried to save myself, but myself keeps slipping away
Currently I'm farming the T. Glaxion, but once I'm done with that one, this baby is next.
Nice I have a riven for sobek. What stats should I look for on it?
Not using the duviri shotgun arcane that buffs multishot and reload is crazy
You lucky momma jammy. It took me 10 missions…because the Nora keeps track now…otherwise I would be saying it took me forever lol 😂
Scattered justice kuva hek video when?
If Primed Shred could be used on shotguns... 😩
yeah hunter munitions is weird on shotguns, you rather put some heat damage or something else, nice build, i would've tried viral slash again at the end, corrosive is great but slash+viral at high rate is insanely good
Can you do a new Kuva Hek video now that Scattered Justice is available on it? It feels wonderful and i think the love needs to be spread
bro 1 mod and that mod doesnt really need a video
@noahedenborg4221 ocucor gets its augment mod and everyone goes crazy about it. That was 1 mod too. 200% multishot and the justice effect isn't some tiny buff my guy
@@ascalese2004 yeah but ocucor augment literally fixed ocucor
Hek augment does bassicly nothing that crazy
@noahedenborg4221 he did the Hek video lol, I called it
Decided to give it a shot while watching this video and got it on my first Larvling lol
Is heat the best element for the Kuva Sobek if you're not going to be using it with Saryn?
tenet exergis god please
Same page with you
Watching this at 6:30 AM where i am lol
acid shells is bugged right now where enemys are blocking the aoe
Idk if I broke my sobek but with a riven and two elemental mods my sobek does
Heat,radiation,magnetic,viral with both acid shells and shattering justice
Gal hell, gal savvy
The riven is blast with punch through
I might swap out hunter munition
For the upcoming mod. I would have liked an alternative fire mode or maybe an incarnon genesis, who knows this weapon has to be good/meta because it’s the only weapon in this game with more than 2 mods that are exclusive to it… cheers everyone
Awwww, I thought you were going to replicate your Acid Shells builds from last week with this one to see even more stupid explosions, but only tried the mod alone :(
I think there’s an unaddressed question in this: how important is the innate status in this build?
Because in this case you have a fairly high innate heat that you’re pumping up further with Blaze, and that’s going to affect the status distribution. Does this want to push heat as high as possible for those procs, or is that an afterthought?
correction inate element not status
best to pick is toxin because of what toxin can make
@@noahedenborg4221 You're right that I used the wrong term there (brain fart due to multitasking), but I think you miss my point in asking.
It wasn't a "what's the best element" question, it was a question about the intended proc-ratio. To use a different example: for the typical slash/viral setup, the ideal is to have around twice as much slash damage as viral damage so the slash status will proc twice as often.
In this case, I saw that MC is running innate heat and then bumping that up with Blaze.
Without the innate element, he'd have roughly a 2 to 1 ratio between Corrosive and Heat procs. With it, however, it's closer to a 1.2 to 1 ratio (220.5 Corrosive to 170.9 Heat damage), which translates to a nearly equivalent proc ratio (which you can see in-game by hovering over Status/Projectile).
The question is whether such a close ratio between Corrosive and Heat is desirable or not for this build.
im gonna have a ton of fun with saryn once i build this
Will say since I got a cold sobek I've been goofing with crit builds still does well but not as good as this
It literally took me 1.5 hours to get a larvling to spawn a kuva sobek.
I have my Shell damage at 14,000 ( not even at max damage yet). Plus acid shells…..oh lord😩
Also to add, a new augment is in the nightwave for sobek and it’s a potent one.
seems like the glaxion really win over the sobek. AOE gun always be people's choices
Where to get acid shells
I *swear* the rigged the chances. I got my sobek on the first larvling
Also remember that the sobek has a special mod coming up in NW
Bro forgets arcanes exist
i got double 25% on both sobek and glaxion
How do your weapons still have 60 mod capacity even when unranked.
Each mastery rank gets you extra base mod capacity on your weapons (though it doesn't increase the max) & he's at / over MR 30
@@ruddygreat4914 thanks I didn't know that
I only use with saryn, just sad ab the riven dispo making it kill my riven
Would you believe me if i told you i literally cycled through the entire Kuva roster before i got the Sobek? That's incredibly unlucky 😂😂
2nd try... It took me over 2.5 hours to get my gun to even show up.
Second larvling? I paid the RNG penalty for you to get that second try, haha
aight, all the kids already did theyr videos, time for the real adult to do his
Just like the original Sobek, this weapon is decent at best and underwhelming at worst. Gonna farm for the Glaxion next and I already KNOW it's gonna be my favourite of the two
I think you might have gotten those reversed.
Sobek is not that good on its own but it can become a nuke with acid shells and saryn
Its a stat upgrade nothing more 😢 i hope the augment will have some impact, people going crazy for rivens and the gun isnt even any good
isnt any good? bruh have you ever seen a sobek saryn?
@@OfficialFo if a gun needs a frame like saryn to be ok its not a good gun 😅 maybe for regular missions but in SP it dies before the enemies reach Level 1k
@@Apprentice_of_Epitaph not every gun needs to be good for levelcap, thats not the majority of gameplay for most players
@@OfficialFo Well thats true but i think everyone was hoping that the Kuva version will be much better but sadly it isnt, the Glaxion on the other side will be amazing when Jade shadows drop with the cold changes