UH OH... Designing Ahsoka’s T-6 Shuttle Part 4 - Think Like a LEGO Designer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- In today's LEGO Minifigure Scale Ahsoka's T-6 Jedi Shuttle progress update, I show you all the progress that has been made on the ship! This includes the finished interior, fuselage, and the full splendor of the wings....and why I need to take them apart and start over....
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The best T-6 moc!!
Thank you so much!!
Lego please hire this man and make this an official set. This is AMAZING
Lego!! Hear this plea!! Hire me haha! I want in!
@@2bricksis it your goal to do lego full time?
@tommuller6373 yep! Technically that’s what I am doing right now!
True
@@2bricks I fear being a designer for lwgo isn't what it's cracked up to be. You are probably very limited in your imagination when actually working for lego. Many of the flaws in (semi-)recent sets probably aren't the fualt of the designers
1. I want to apologise for suggesting this model so many months ago with "you've already done the wing mechanism for the Stinger Mantis, so this will be easey, right?!"
2. That said, this one does feel like your current magnum opus, it looks so good, and it has so many play features in such small spaces
3. some mechanisme to lock the wings into the body for the different positions (see screenshot I posted on the Discord) still seems like the best solution to both have stability and the option to swoosh in the different modes (could have two rods per side if one doesn't do it)
4. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK!
Thank you!!!
Exactly what I was thinking. Using like techniq rods to lock the wings when horizontal but then can pull them out and be able to rotate the wings to vertical.
Could you make removable extra landing gear as the wing stands, so they look like part of the design but are also functional? The wings look great, and it would suck if you had to make them look a bit worse for structural integrity.
Thanks! Yeah that’s the idea behind the “permanent stands” thought process. Essentially just adding more landing gear
I’m not bitter, I’m just *checks thesaurus* aggravated
Hahaha
What about having some mechanism in the back of the wings which would inject some pins to the hull of the ship in landed position? It could help hold the wings straight and it might be unrecognisable because of the small space between the wings and the hull 🤔
Was going to post exactly this.
This is something I’ve been playing around with!
Was just going to suggest this. It's a best of both worlds. Trick would be to have it retractable smoothly while swooshing, so the moment from the wing doesn't buckle that section still. Amazing build!!! And this is from someone who built your Fondor and am still amazed by it's beauty and structure. Thank you for persisting!
It’s a good idea, if you figured it out you might be able to integrate that technique into the vertical positioning of the ship as well. Looks fantastic tho, great work
@motivationaldisaster6443 thanks!
I absolutely love the dojo table function, it's so well integrated. As a whole, it's looking great and whilst you have hit a bump in the road, I don't doubt that you will find a solution.
Thank you!!!!
This is breathtaking. How do you even come up with this stuff??? You are a genius, man, keep up the good work.
I am trying to follow in your steps with this 'think like a lego designer method, while making the Trailblazer (the ship from Outlaws). So thanks for the inspiration!
Thanks so much!!! I can’t wait to build the trailblazer once the game is out!!!
@@2bricks Can't wait to see your build too! Honestly, it isn't such a big ship. I based mine on the gameplay reveal. It's minifig scale and (only) it's as big as the TFA Falcon.
Wow those thrusters look amazing!
Thank you!!!
This looks so good!! I was working on a version of this at one pint and ran into the same problem with weight balance. i sacrificed the look of the turn section to add a second large technic turntable for stability. didn't solve everything, but it still looked decent and made it a lot more sturdy. Keep it up, this looks incredible!
Thank you! I’d love to see yours!
This has to be the best Lego MOC ever! I'm sorry that you have to redesign the turntable neck for the ship, but knowing it's you I know you'll figure it out. Keep up the great work!
Thank you!!!! I’m almost there with the redesign lol!! Thanks for your faith
Amazing to watch your process. Having built Pixel-Dans T6, I am staggered that you have managed to hollow out the center section in order to not just put in an interior but also build in the play features that are always a stand out of your models. Good luck and looking forward to seeing the final version.
Thanks!!!!
Idea: The cockpit could also use a circle part with half a stud distance. In doing so when the wings turn, the cockpit doesn't gets dragged.
counterweight at the front of the wings maybe? lego made wighted 2 by 6 ish bricks for ships
Clicked on this one the second the notification popped up. 😂
Haha yay!!!
Wow amazing Progress dude continue what you are doing! Great job!
Thank you!!!!
I have an idea for you with the wings when landed to lock them in place and support the weight. It will cost a tiny strip of detail either on the top/rear of the wings somewhere on each side, or perhaps on the rear back edge of the wings close to the hull. Have a sliding technic bar (or two) with a small handle that aligns with a technic brick in the center hull. You slide the bar out and it releases the wings for rotation. When aligned with the hull, you slide the technic bar(s) into the technic brick in the hull to lock/hold into place. Edit: You do this on each side of the hull and wings near the rear. I'm hoping your can visualize based on what I am describing. Edit#2: You could put this under the wings to maintain detail, but would be just a tad to access. Although with a small handle probably wouldn't be too bad.
Either way, excellent work! Absolutely superb like all of your builds!
I have 1 word for this
that's pretty cool
Haha thanks!
that's 3 words, but i agree
Wow its pure awesomeness! I wolud definitely build it for myself if you will release this buliding instructions:) Love this ship in minifig scale!
Impressive, most impressive
Thank you!!
How about some sort of locking mechanism that pops out of the main fuselage (or from the wings) when the ship is landed and that you'd fold back in when rotating the wings to the horizontal position? Something towards the engines that would serve as a second anchor point for the wings and counteract the torque generated on the "neck" of the ship. Not sure if you would personally consider it cheating.
Thank you!! No, anything that gets the job done with minimal visual intrusion is a-ok in my book!!
Wow the new ucs set! I would die for this in an official set
Aww thanks!!
Brilliant once again!
Thanks!!
You could use weight bricks in the front to balance the wings
Maybe try to make it as hollow as possible with axles with modified technic 2x2’s with pin holes, and occasionally have beams to support it?
so funny how the REAL boundaries are physics and not the actual parts.
Haha yeah! Physics will getcha every time 😂
Isn't rethinking just part of the process? And I personally love these series as they help me make better MOCs myself.
Awesome!!! Glad to hear it!!!
Make it so the wing support stands fold up/retract into the underside of the wings.
The new progress looks amazing. One of the best mocs I've ever seen.
My vote would be to include stands underneath the wings, and let half of the wing easily detach for transport. It's primarily a display model, so the look of the wings is important. I don't see any scenario where you stabilize the wings enough to make the model swooshable, so going all-in on detail makes the most sense to me. Best of luck solving your mechanical challenges!
Thank you! Great insights!
Official-grade UCS stuff. I love this
Thanks!!!
It would really compromise the shaping of the ship, but my idea from ages ago to just add a second ring at the back of the ship to help hold the wings comes back every time I see an update on this ship.
It would be so great to be able to add like…any kind of support back there!
Great work. To answer the question you asked at the end, I would prefer it if it could be displayed without built in stands. I want to build a MOC of a swooshable version of this ship at some point.
Good to know! This model will be movable, grabable, pick-up-able…not sure it’ll be swooshable haha
I guess you would need to reduce the weight of the wings, maybe technic insides (if they aren’t already) and maybe you can use brackets along the top of them to pull the rear wings up , which might help with the torque (?)
First video I've seen from you. Totally awesome stuff man! keep up the great work.
Awesome! Welcome :)
hang in there!
Thanks!! Not to worry I’m already playing around with the new design :D
It's shaping up so beautifully! The goals already achieved here are stunning! Thanks so much for sharing of your process, as frustrating as it clearly must be at times. We know you will find the right solution, just as you always have. It may not match your original solution but it will be the best. You got this!!!
Thanks so much!!
You will probably need a stand whether you want to display the wings in the vertical or horizontal flight mode. I personally love the details you have added on this wing, and let's be honest Lego would have a stand for the wings if they decided to go with a UCS T-6 Jedi Shuttle. I'd say keep the details but find a way to build a vertical stand for the wings if you want to display it in that mode
I’m going to do a stand for sure!! My goal is to keep the same surface detail level, but just engineer the hell out of the wings so it works correctly- I have a promising start actually!
One possibility would be a series of very long technic beams enveloped in brackets with plates to create one super strong beam that cannot physically bend at all and from that point again a similar setup to the respective end tips of the wings. And then reduce, reduce, reduce. More large plates rather than small tiles and greeblies, and only add necessary ones at the end.
tl, dr: Brackets. Lego's magic part when you need ridiculous strength that counter acts tension
Seems like we are in alignment on what to do!!
OMG bro incredible !!!!
Thanks so much!!!
i’m certainly heartbroken for you man, keep going though this really is becoming a LEGO engineering marvel! a way to display this in flight mode would be sick but i just don’t think especially with hollowing out the wings it’s possible. but hey if anyone is going to defy the odds and prove me wrong it’d be you! 😂
I have a plan for a vertical display stand! Just gonna have to get those wings light and rigid and sturdy first!!
That is beautiful. That one light stone grey arch tho😢. J.k. Great job
Haha thanks :)
This looks absolutly insane 😱
Why is this man Not an Lego designer
So great! 😮
@@flos.bricks thank you!!
Pls do more like this! @@2bricks
I think another of those large turntable pieces between wings and cockpit might help with the stability of that section if it doesn't detract from the proportions and look of the model, though.
Thanks! I did have a version with 2, it didn’t help that much unfortunately :/
@@2bricks Ah. Well that's a shame. The shuttle looks awesome btw.
@sharktheraptor thanks!!
Keep the wings detailed like they are! It’s such a big set that supports are totally viable! It would be such a shame to sacrifice all that detail!
I agree it would be a shame!
Starting to wonder what mods you’d need to do to get this in a clone wars colours
1 definitely keep the wings maybe turn the stand into more landing gear
So cool! Incredibly work, you should be really proud of this.
Thank you!!!! 🙏
You know. I think mb you can use instead of simple plates inside of the wings the plates with a holes in middle and wings become lighter
All I can say is GOD DAYUMMM!! Well done!! 👍👍
Thank you!
Man you make Lego set better than Lego themselves
Thanks! I have a lot more freedom than they do to be fair :)
Looks great!! Thanks for all you do, lots of good stuff on your channel.
Thank you so much!!!
It is turning out to be an amazing design. The way that both the rising table and extending fuselage are able to fit within the space on the bottom of the ship is incredible and must've been a nightmare to design. I am also very fond of the way the boarding ramps are integrated into the wings.
A slight change could be to maybe rotate the two triangular 2x2 tiles at the end of the fuselage windows 90 degrees because on the in-universe model the outward/bottom part of the window is slightly longer than the inward/top part if you know what I mean. And the window frames are also angled at the front in the show instead of only at the rear. Maybe there could also be a way for the lower engine to look more similar in appearance to the top engines by having that horizontal inner bit.
As for the wings, making them lighter is probably the right idea, as even with transparent stands when the wing is horizontal, I doubt they'll be perfectly straight in the vertical position when they're so heavy. The top wing may rest on the extended fuselage but the bottom wing might still sag.
Thank you! And yes the window tiles are indeed misaligned! I put them in the wrong way when I reassembled the windows haha, good eye!
Idea: In horizontal mode, could the wings get studs/bridges pushing into the sides of the ship to reduce the tork?
Thanks! That’s one of the more popular ideas, and I might just do it!
@@2bricks One idea to add, but is not LEGO. This could help you make it lighter and stronger. Use styrofoam. Cut it into the form of the wing, so you can keep it hollow, but the styrofoam keeps the sturdiness of the wing. Maybe use an L- or Alpha-Shaped form to be build into the wings.
@Vaeshkar I have a Lego solution I’m confident will work this time!
@@2bricks exciting times
Could you build a small mechanism on the fuselage near the end of the wings that will hold it locked in horizontally? Not accurate, but you could keep it on the underside of the fuselage so it's hidden under the wings. It would shift the stress further back, away from the pivot.
Thanks!! That’s an idea I’m currently playing with!
Amazing Model!!!
I had 2 ideas for the ramp: maybe instead of the ratchet joints you could use two (or more) Mixel-style Balljoints? They tend to have more friction than the regular hinges.
And secondly, might adding 1x2 slopes to the brackets (steps) make it look more accurate? Or are the steps in the show actually that steep?
Not sure if it would look more accurate or less, but
Thanks!! I’m still thinking about ways to improve the steps actually! And yeah the ball joints might work better :)
It's too good
Ahh thanks! Tell me that once I get the wings figured out lol!
Please make instructions I want to make this for my self it’s so good
Thanks!! There will be instructions, worry not!
That is sick
Thanks!!!
If I were building this ship at this scale, as cool as it would be to have the spinning function, I'd have to make a compromise. To avoid stressing and breaking pieces, maybe just have wings that can be removed and attached in the different positions. Not ideal, but actually doable. Build sections for the wings to slot into on the top, bottom and sides with covers for when they aren't in use. I built a modified official play scale one, and built the stand mount going through the hollow wing so the main body of the ship rested on it. It's secure and sturdy.
Great idea! I may eventually just go with something like that :)
Maybe reduce the size of the wings width and length slightly by a couple of bricks that will reduce the weight by a fair bit
That’s true!
Maybe allow the stands to be folded up into the wings so you don’t have to redo the whole wing
It’s a good idea!
You could make a retractable support that runs from the back of the wings to the main part of the ship that slides back and forth
I’m exploring lots of ideas like this! Thank you 🙏
@2bricks ofc! I'm a huge fan of your Playscale mocs and you're a huge inspiration for my own mocs!
That’s tough on the one hand you don’t want to see a noticeable difference in detail and it’s be a crime to leave behind your beautiful work on those wings but lighter wings will probably help overall depending on how well the heavy wings work in vertical mode
Thanks! Yeah funny enough the wings as they currently are actually work great in vertical mode- it’s just the horizontal that’s the killer!
I already know how to fix it. It requires 2 turn tables or something similar making a large turning tube not one connection. and a technic beam going through the wing which it's pretty much almost completely technic inside the wings
This is such a great build. It’s a shame that you’ll have to redesign the wings again, but it will be so worth it if it means it won’t need additional support beams.
Thank you! I agree- if I can get at the very least a hidden support, I’ll be happy!
Really Great Design!
Would you ever consider to Design the Twillight from the Clone Wars ?
I would! One day for sure. I love that ugly bucket!!!
It looks amazing!! But may e if you would have gone more play-scale, it might have been easier. But, too late for that 😅
Haha yeah - unfortunately this is somewhat of a commission, and minifig scale was the requirement 🥲
While not perfect, maybe you can take some inspiration from PiXEL-DANs - T6-Shuttle and his stands. I am not even sure if it is definitely needed there. It'S MOC-154120 on Rebrickable.
I’ve seen it, yeh! Dan and I have been chatting about it :)
Personally I would much prefer less detailed wings that don't require stands. At a scale like this detail isn't the only wow factor, the sheer size and ability of builds to hold themselves together are two others. But you should definitely do what feels most satisfactory, you've done a great job so far!
Thanks!!
This is gorgeous 🤩👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 I knew the wings would be the biggest problem because it’s the same on the Mandalorian gauntlet once it reaches a certain scale. Hope you get it done, but as far as I know, every bigger model with wings like that have the same issue. Did you consider using metal axles?
Thanks!! Whoa, there are Lego metal axels?? Or you’re saying a custom solution?
@@2bricks They are available on MTP Metal Technic Parts
Ngl im doing the same shi too, im making a minifigure scale t6 from a month
Cool!! You got pics up anywhere? I’d love to see!
add a second turntable on the cockpit side or use both turntables and stinger mantis double rings?
26:42 dude xD
99% of Star Wars ships is like that ahahah
if we take a close look at them there's always more space inside than it is phisically possible...
Haha yeah- they swore that with this ship it’s possible to fit the whole interior in there, which is nice, but then they had to go ahead and do the wing rotating thing lol
WoW looking terrific so far but on the landing gear is there any way to cover that part because when you swing the Wings around you don't want to be looking at the learning part on one side other then that all is good ?
Would it be possible to add magnets as part of the locking mechanism of the wings to the hull when landed? I know Lego used to produce magnet pieces but I’m actually not sure if they still do. Great work so far as always!
Good suggestion! But those pieces are hard to source and expensive- plus they arent super strong either. Thanks though!
5:33 so I know that most Lego moc builders will consider what I’m about to say heresy of the highest order but have you considered 3D printing parts you need? I know I know but the fact is Lego can’t build completely new bricks just to be used in a single set let alone something that may never be used it would cost them too much.
But a single builder can do stuff like that to get around problems, you have already shown you can do it with Lego parts but can you improve on it with custom stuff like a internal frame for the wings to keep them rigid yet light, I was watching a video with a 3D printer guy that was experimenting on just how much empty space can be built into a print without losing strength.
If the idea of crafting your own is out of the question have you tried the metal technic rods and beams you can buy? There mostly aluminium so fairly light but strong and if that’s not strong enough I believe you can get steel ones.
Thanks! I’m designing this to be made into a custom set that others can build so I need to find a legit Lego solution unfortunately!
Why is the cockpit shaking when the wings are rotating? Just curious to know what makes it shake?
when your done can you make a stand for it
Oh yes, for sure!
Is there a way you could put moving axle rods from the wing into the centre build, to support the wings at the back?
That’s one thing I’m contemplating trying!
My friend is an IT engineer in Lego company in Billund. And based on his stories almost ALL designers are....kinda depressed . Because the funding is never enough. And deadlines are always harder and harder. So your lucky your not working there.
Dang!! I’m sad to hear it :(
Where do you go to get the instructions to build this? And where do you go to get the extra pieces to build this mock? I have the original set.
Exposed studs and exposed holes?
Did we go back to the 70's?
Yes! Yes we did
Do you sell instructions on how to build this mock? Does it include the extra pieces to make this happen if you have the original? Or is this just a one and done that you just share with the world. Because I would love to build this but don’t know what it would take.
I will be making instructions when the design is finished :) once it’s complete you’ll be able to use some, but not many, of those pieces in this (mainly the dark red elements) but it’s not designed with that in mind, this is a whole new scratch built design with very specific requirements to it
just make another set of landing gear that can be folded instead of the support stands.
That’s one idea!
Is it minifigure scale?
It is!!
Can I have this please
Once I’m done you’ll be able to get them instructions and build it for yourself!
i aint gay but i think i love you.
Love ya too buddy