1975 Chevy Vans VS Ford Dealership training sales presentation film Lasting Value

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  • This 1975 Chevrolet promotional film, titled " Lasting Value Van Comparison ", was sent to the Chevrolet car dealerships to be used as an in-house Sales and customer training film. The film highlights technical aspects and features of the new model year. If you look up a different film I posted, titled "1974 Chevy Selling Monte Carlo ", you can see a rare glimpse of the film cartridge viewer that was used at the dealership where the customers and personnel were to view these films. The machine was made by Technicolor and called the " Chevrolet Mini Theater System "
    This film came from my personal collection. This film was not downloaded from any website and is not reused content. This restoration is my work. The restoration process started with removing the super8 film from the Technicolor Cartridge. After removal the film was cleaned, repaired, and spooled onto a standard film reel. Next the scanning to digital process was performed on the Lasergraphics Scanstation motion picture film scanner in 2k resolution. This film was very red without almost no color left. The extensive color correction was performed in Davinci Resolve. Finally, the film was converted to MP4 format for uploading to TH-cam.

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  • @semectual
    @semectual 2 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    Who would ever imagine back then, this generation of Chevy Vans would last until 1996? Amazing! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      they kept them going and going

    • @dr.samsung_8855
      @dr.samsung_8855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Chevy's doing it again with their current Express Van lineup. The overall body's been the same since 1996, however many different drivetrains since then. I'm very glad they still come with V8's unlike the rest of the market.

    • @darnellrobeson4761
      @darnellrobeson4761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      So true. And the Ford lasted until '91.

    • @christophereichorn7918
      @christophereichorn7918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      First year since 1971 released on April 1970.

    • @michaelbrown5601
      @michaelbrown5601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Mine is a 1994, 330,000 miles and drives perfectly. Has for the last 20 years I’ve owned it. It’s a light duty G30 350tbi/4L60E.

  • @user-MrMike
    @user-MrMike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    1:23 Ford Econoline moved the front axle and nose forward (which improves crash performance and serviceability) and that’s a bad thing?

  • @jeremypilot1015
    @jeremypilot1015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    I absolutely loved these vans. There was one we had at a dealership I worked at with 380K on the clock. It drove great and rode great, I liked it much better than the early 2000S vans. If there was any complaint it would be that the footwell was a little narrow, so either your feet were crammed in next to the pedals, or you had to put your foot on the wheel well.

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      same complaint here, my feet are 4e's. I think my dodge tradesman van had more room

    • @uber2tuber
      @uber2tuber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@theemulsionalchemist5688 I agree completely. I had a 71 Dodge Tradesman and now a 91 G30... the foot area may be a show stopper for me. After I get all the front suspension issues straightened out, I will know then. ps... love this vid. thank you. Did they make one for the 91 models?
      Also, what do they mean by the "massive girder beam front suspension"? I have not heard that term. the front suspension on mine is loosey goosey.... I just bought it and was told all was fine, but is not the case as I discovered driving up the curvy hilly road to my house. Was just told by a mechanic he will start by replacing the pitman and idler arms (which move a lot) and also the 4 bushings for the stabilizer bar. Is the stabilizer bar the girder beam? thanks for any info.

    • @metrawatt
      @metrawatt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I worked at a GMC dealer years ago, we had a customer with a ~82 g20 van with the 6.2. last time I saw it, it had >760k miles!! My fellow mechanics claimed it was the original engine, but ate many many transmissions.

    • @jeremypilot1015
      @jeremypilot1015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@metrawatt The 6.2 was a great engine GM had several great engines the 350, 327, 4.3, 3.8, 2.5, a few slant 6s in there. You knew GM was going to hell when they stopped making every single one of these engines and started building crap that was based off of these but offered nothing better in terms of quality and reliability, but that is how they sell cars today.

    • @brandonplaisted8194
      @brandonplaisted8194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jeremypilot1015 seems gm still did not learn there lesson after 2 to 3 federal bailouts. With the last bailout being in 08. And now there right back to not listening to there customers which is why there longtime gm fans are switching to the other brands like honda toyota or dodge now. (Mostly due to gm stating to go all electric with therr models that were there bread and butter back in the day when a mah of gm customers don't want an all electric pickup or work van) I have been hearing life long brand lovers from gm have been getting rid of them in flocks recently MAYBE Gm better noticed before they need another bailout.

  • @edwardpate6128
    @edwardpate6128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I had a 1975 Chevy 1 ton cargo van that I used as a subcontractor doing deliveries back in the late 70's while in college. I also had a 1975 3/4 ton Beauville window van that I drove from 1983 until 2000 and then sold to some scrap metal haulers with 225K on it and zero issues. Saw those guys driving that thing around for several years towing a big cargo trail filled with scrap metal. What beasts those thing were!

  • @donaldolson9209
    @donaldolson9209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    they make the ford sound better, heavier duty with an actual frame

    • @imzjustplayin
      @imzjustplayin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      all irrelevant if it has a lower GVWR and cargo carrying capacity.

    • @1983jblack
      @1983jblack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@imzjustplayin GM failed to mention how Ford had a 460 V8 option which gives them the win

    • @d.s7741
      @d.s7741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1983jblack - a win in the weight department

    • @mwilliamshs
      @mwilliamshs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@imzjustplayin gvwr and gcwr are higher on the fords. 400 lbs of payload is nothing. Most of these vans spent their entire lives overloaded anyway so having a frame to handle the weight is a huge benefit.

    • @74nova36
      @74nova36 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1983jblack sounds pretty dope lol

  • @mason3773
    @mason3773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I just found it funny how Chevy advertised their unibody design as better than the competition back then, and now their vans are body on frame.

    • @KrAzYKARL49
      @KrAzYKARL49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And the Ford (Transit) is a Unibody. Haha

  • @Beandiptheredneck
    @Beandiptheredneck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I never knew this Era chevy van was a unibody, always figured they were body on frame

  • @kevinmiller4486
    @kevinmiller4486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    My dad bought a new one in 1974 for business and personal use. He had it for over 20 yrs before the body rust finally got too bad to pass PA inspection.

    • @willg125
      @willg125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As a fellow Pennsylvanian, I am very surprised that he was able to use it for more than 20 years before it was too rusty, especially for work and in winter. I have seen 5 year old cars rusted through around here.

    • @thomasfogerty3515
      @thomasfogerty3515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Inspection? What?

  • @weegeemike
    @weegeemike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Dodge was really competitive in the van market during this time as well. People forget that many of the first class C van chassis RVs were Dodges too, until Ford took that over with this econoline in the 80s

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      dodges were EveryWare . that 440 was a staple in trucks and vans.

    • @jeremywylie2936
      @jeremywylie2936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They dident use dodge because dodge beat the chevy. Can't have that

    • @blakepratt8067
      @blakepratt8067 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My buddy had a surplus Dodge "Church Van". Extra, extra long (15 or maybe 18 passenger). He drove that thing to every Western state with his band. Never had any problems with it but parking it in town was a bit tough.

  • @jessebrook1688
    @jessebrook1688 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Full-sized vans: where development goes to die.

  • @shaylernoah1178
    @shaylernoah1178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    My dad had 72 econoline as a daily driver from 72-96 . Replaced engine once . It was a beast

  • @mikerinck8523
    @mikerinck8523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I’ve driven both before, i liked the footwell / drivers area of the Ford by far over the Chevy.

  • @htwrk2
    @htwrk2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I worked for a company for over 30 years modifying vehicles for people with disabilities. I worked on both Ford and Chevrolet vans with Ford being the most common. The Ford vans definitely were roomier in the front seats, it felt very claustrophobic sitting in the Chevy van. The Ford with the longer wheelbase in theory should ride better. There was one weird thing I noticed with both vans. The floor in the Chevy sloped up from the B pillar to the firewall and the Ford sloped down from the B pillar to the firewall. This contributed to the claustrophobic feeling in the Chevy and the footwell was definitely narrower in the Chevy. I was never a fan of the twin I beam suspension.

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      great observation, I couldn't agree with you more on the I-beam design

    • @uber2tuber
      @uber2tuber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@theemulsionalchemist5688 Is there any way to install a flat surface (piece of wood?) on the wheel well on the driver's side foot well? I need some place flat to put my left foot... I'm envisioning a triangular wooden block that could be bolted to the wheel well? Or perhaps a metal triangle that could be welded? Thoughts pls?

    • @mwilliamshs
      @mwilliamshs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Twin I-beams are rugged and simple. They have a very long service life with minimal maintenance. They are not sporty nor kind to cheap tires but commercial tires with closed shoulders do great on them.

    • @theporkchopexpress3782
      @theporkchopexpress3782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Id take the Ford in an accident...

    • @GA-wq8xq
      @GA-wq8xq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Chevy van has a wider footwell though!

  • @mattsprayberry0
    @mattsprayberry0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm sorry but how does moving the engine forward decrease driver space?

  • @TONNAGE75
    @TONNAGE75 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “Should be easy to park.”
    Backs into football field 0:20

  • @jamesr2888
    @jamesr2888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thanks for sharing & posting this on TH-cam. 2:18 It's cool to see a 1975 Econoline brand spankin new. My parents bought a used 1976 Econoline 100 white with a tan interior for $950.00 from a garden center in Palos Verdes, CA in June 1980. Garden center bought the van used at a Chevrolet dealer in I think Ontario, CA. I don't know how long the garden center had it from the time they bought until my parents bought it. It was a strip model. I think the only options it had was an automatic transmission & the 351 V8. It didn't have power steering or radio hell; it didn't even have a passenger seat. During that time, the delivery drivers beat the hell out of it; left rear door bent slightly outward; bought a used one. Swing out doors on the side slightly dented & creased in but still closed OK. It rode like a hay wagon, sounded like a rattle trap & a bucket of bolts. Dad installed power steering. He found & installed an AM/FM radio/stereo from an early to mid 60's Cadillac; why he didn't just find a radio from another Econoline van I don't know. Found someone who was selling a passenger seat exactly the same as the drivers; lucked out on that. We went camping in it a number of times, driving to Northern California & Kernville, CA. It started to leak oil from the rear main seal; had a repair; still leaked. Just found out recently it had a rope seal design. It had the base cluster, so it had idiot lights. Oil light flickered all the time as if there was low or no oil pressure; engine still sounded & ran fine; look back now, I bet it was oil pressure sending unit. Transmission started to act-up; you put it in drive first time driving it, it took 30 seconds or, so to kick in after slightly revving the engine a few times; as I look back now, thinking it could've been low on fluid. Mother was a florist; wanted her own business; needed a van. She opened her business in September of 1983; had the van until Sept 1985 when it was unfortunately sent to a wrecking yard; they gave her $300.00; still running though with 150,000+ miles. I think it could've lasted more. She replaced it with a new 1986 Aerostar van with a 2.8 V6; that lasted 25 years with 290,000 miles.
    As you can tell, I like to share stories about vehicle ownership. 😁

    • @glennmillerfan
      @glennmillerfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My father had a 1971 Ford Econoline van from March of 1983 until September of 1984. He paid $50 for it customized it during that time he had it. Unfortunately it started having transmission issues in it towards the end so he sold it to a friend of his and replaced it with a 1976 AMC Hornet Wagon, which he owned into 1987 and junked it because its head gasket went out.

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I do too, enjoyed reading it.

    • @trs-80fanclub12
      @trs-80fanclub12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didnt much care for the Chevy, it was ugly compared to the E-150, heavy, got stuck in the mud easily and got horrible gas Milage with its 305 v8. I have owned both and my fav was a 78 E-150 with captains chairs, fender flairs, and twin rear circle tinted back windows. A "Crack" wagon my friends called it, when I was 17. That 300 inline was a beast and with its combined 3 (4 speed OD) manual. You couldn't even shift into 4th unless you hit 50 mph, or it would stall. At 55 it almost sounded like it was at idle. I replaced its 2 inch pipes with a 3.5 inch and added a turnout at the back wheel. Up hills it moaned like a deuce and 1/4 under load. It was comfortable, Best seats I have ever had in a vehicle. The bad- it had a terrible 1/4 inch clutch engagement rod design from the pedal through the floor that was recalled because it would break under normal use due to its short design and tremendous pressure. It was never fixed before I got it and I had to "Dry start" it in gear, then shift without a clutch to get it home long enough to re-weld the rod from time to time. Made me a better driver though a I never wore out a clutch in all my years. I gutted the back and installed light panels with sound deadening, 12 inch speakers, a small roof mounted TV, and a rear seat / bed. Funky cold medina would pound the pavement on the weekend. As I was the favorite "Group transport" in my town, it found itself escorting all the trouble makers back then. The 80's were fun, and I still think there is a mad husbands lawyer still hunting me to this day for the fun I had in that thing. I left for basic training, and it sat for 4 years, became a rats nest, and died a horrible rusty mess by 95. I pulled the engine and placed it into a 70 e-100. I miss the crack wagon for many reasons of getting older

  • @fixinggrace
    @fixinggrace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Pretty much all of these Chevy vans in the Midwest have dissolved into clouds of rust. You hardly ever see them anymore

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      still plenty in California

    • @ttgk8506
      @ttgk8506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Still see them being used as work vehicles here in the south

    • @kanyewist
      @kanyewist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      there are a good amount of remains of vans, some rusty, but some in good condition in the east

    • @74nova36
      @74nova36 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Texas still has em all day running paint and carpet to new home construction, about the same as Ford. They must have so many miles on their bodies but still chugging

    • @fixinggrace
      @fixinggrace 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ttgk8506 in Michigan, at least in my neck of the woods they're rare.

  • @peterfedorov4776
    @peterfedorov4776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sure no frame for Chevy, but the next generation vans express/savanna have frames.

    • @mwilliamshs
      @mwilliamshs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah it's like they made a mistake then corrected it

  • @Banjo29
    @Banjo29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Chevy van :
    ✔️ We can write "Free candy" with spray paint on the van.
    Ford van :
    ✔️ We can write "Free candy" with spray paint on the van.

    • @rustyjeep2469
      @rustyjeep2469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      lmao what

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what about the dodge van?

    • @Banjo29
      @Banjo29 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theemulsionalchemist5688 of course the dodge one too 🤣

    • @mattdavis9601
      @mattdavis9601 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@theemulsionalchemist5688 "We can't afford to give away free candy."

  • @super20dan
    @super20dan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    the fords of this era were the best and chevy could not compete. i serveced fleets back then and the fords lasted 2x as long

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hard to kill a ford 6. they lasted forever

    • @super20dan
      @super20dan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theemulsionalchemist5688 so true. the last chev van in the fleet i took care of had the 305 v8 with defective camshaft.

  • @dappergander
    @dappergander 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is that van on it's way to Possum Lodge? 😅

  • @isakjohansson7134
    @isakjohansson7134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    American vans are so dope, i genuinely find an Express van or E-series van cooler than a supercar

    • @goclunker
      @goclunker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hope you get to drive one. They are TERRIBLE. Sloppy driving dynamics, and absolutely abysmal driver comfort. (drove both gm and ford vans for a few years)
      You have to be child sized to be “comfortable” in the joke of a cabin, yes, even in the “new” chevy express. Compared to modern “euro” vans, american vans are laughably uncomfortable.

    • @isakjohansson7134
      @isakjohansson7134 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goclunker Haha that may be

    • @Lopaaz
      @Lopaaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My mom used to do amazon, and she only liked the fords because they had better fuel economy and speed, but she wasn't a big fan of them, the dodge vans and the chevy were terrible

    • @goclunker
      @goclunker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lopaaz Having spent extensive time driving all of them, the ford transit is definitely NOT faster than the promaster, nor is it more economical. The most economical van is the Chevy express, due to its 8 speed transmission.

    • @TeaInTheMorning-we2kh
      @TeaInTheMorning-we2kh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The older ones all look great. I like the modern chevy and ford ones too but the current dodge cargo van line up looks atrocious. Just oversized minivan looking things.

  • @Paramount531
    @Paramount531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Back in the mid 80s, I *almost* got my hands on a long wheelbase van the same color as the one featured here, but it had the chrome bumpers. The engine and tranny were spent, at the last minute the seller changed his mind. I would have bought the Chevy over the Ford without hesitation, and in those days I leaned toward Ford.

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      it's hard to choose between the two, I had a 78-dodge van with a 3 on the tree and a slant six. I beat the crap out of that thing, and it kept going

  • @steveespinola7652
    @steveespinola7652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    These Chevy vans ( and GMC) lasted so long until 1996, now you hardly see them on the road anymore. These vans were TRUE work horses.

  • @doug8525
    @doug8525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Here in the midwest, with all the salt put down on the roads in winter, these vans would be rust buckets in no time.

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      no cars lasted in the salt belt. not even new cars

    • @michaelflores2318
      @michaelflores2318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They all did Ford Chevy/GMC and Dodge

    • @rustyjeep2469
      @rustyjeep2469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theemulsionalchemist5688 No kidding, everything rusts there, maybe don't use so much road salt y'all 🤦‍♂️

    • @swainer8014
      @swainer8014 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rustyjeep2469 Try driving our roads with snow and ice without road treatment you might change your tune.

  • @ChrisWalker-yf1qc
    @ChrisWalker-yf1qc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Like a picture she was laying there, moonlight dancing off her hair. She woke up and took me by the hand. She’s gonna love me in my Chevy van and that’s all right with me… -Sammy Johns

  • @MrEhamburglar
    @MrEhamburglar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry, I'm a full sized human, and need something that has the frame of, and performance of, a truck. I prefer the Econoline.

  • @blautens
    @blautens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ominous opening music - a windowless van moving with purpose - look out kids - that candy comes with a hefty price.

  • @dmhenshaw
    @dmhenshaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had a 75 Chevy Van G10 Shorty with 6 Cyl 3 speed manual. Great vehicle. Customized it as my surfer van. Lots of good times with it!

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very cool! I had a shorty too but was a dodge 225 with a 3 on the tree. wish I still had it. was just big enough to fit my KDX 400 in the back

  • @TheMcdrewb
    @TheMcdrewb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I feel like a new van from the 70s is better than a new one

  • @scavenom2008
    @scavenom2008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This guys where good at throwing shade with actual facts back in the day😅

  • @USERNAME1-x5u
    @USERNAME1-x5u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These must be on backorder because I can't find them availible new anywhere!

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      check the inventory list as pick and pull auto wreckers. you will find them there

  • @michaelflores2318
    @michaelflores2318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I rather settle for Dodge available 440 Magnum has more power than the 460

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      my dodge had a slant 6. I always wanted to drop a small Hemi in mine like a 331 or 354 out of a 1950' Chrysler.

  • @elliotbradley4900
    @elliotbradley4900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And have lots of room for candy and the neighborhood children. "You kids like fruit roll-ups?

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      we have lots of schools in our Neiborhood, they make great ice cream trucks

  • @Haffmatthew
    @Haffmatthew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well, should I ever be deciding between the two of these here vans, I know what I’ll be choosing!

  • @EdmontonRails
    @EdmontonRails 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Can we just appreciate that both of these vans are better than the junk being made in 2021.

    • @flight2k5
      @flight2k5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🤣 ok

    • @edhorse7261
      @edhorse7261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are absolutely right.

    • @SH00T_TH3PUMP
      @SH00T_TH3PUMP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely!

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love the old vans, the have so much more personality. but compared to vans today I don't think they were as reliable

    • @swainer8014
      @swainer8014 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just . . .no

  • @OsbornTramain
    @OsbornTramain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awsome stuff....love this channel!!!!

  • @AltimaNEO
    @AltimaNEO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I dunno man, Econolines are ubiquitous these days

  • @smithraymond09029
    @smithraymond09029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That opening music really makes this start of this film seem like a police drama t.v. show..

  • @ronward1229
    @ronward1229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Same opening sequence as "Who's the Boss?" - lol - Love these vans!

  • @mt1885
    @mt1885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Chevy vans were 10000 times better than the other brand and the 350 will never be matched.

  • @gertraba4484
    @gertraba4484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Frakkin. Indestructable. We had 5 between 1970 and 1978

  • @toddbob55
    @toddbob55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Ford Econoline Vans have always set the bar they were the best vans on the road.

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      the Econoline's were tough work vans. tons of them still on the road

    • @mwilliamshs
      @mwilliamshs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Having a frame is a major plus for trucks and vans. GM failed there

  • @JohnSmith-lw2bm
    @JohnSmith-lw2bm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Who ever weighed what goes in a van?? No one. If it fits, it ships. Both vans carried much more weight, until the axles could snap.

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have seen an axle break on a pickup truck going down the highway. it was full of recycled paper, must have been overladed triple its weight capacity. when it slammed to the ground about half of the crap in the back came out. what a mess

  • @jamesdean9943
    @jamesdean9943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Both were a PITA to work on but ran forever. Plus the old Chevy engine were very modifiable.

    • @mcqueenfanman
      @mcqueenfanman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I did a lot of ball joints on those ford vans.

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      pull that doghouse out

    • @KDoyle4
      @KDoyle4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mcqueenfanman I don't think you did any ball joints on those pre-1992 Ford Vans. They didn't have ball joints, they used king pins.

    • @benchattin
      @benchattin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I heard the 454 1996+ Express vans were really difficult to work on.

    • @matthewq4b
      @matthewq4b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mcqueenfanman "I did a lot of ball joints on those Chev vans." There fixed it for ya. As the Fords did not have Ball joints but King Pins. So either you mistyped or are full of BS. And the Chev and GM vans absolutely ate ball joints in this era..

  • @dionkraft6782
    @dionkraft6782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My Electric utility company....2nd biggest in California bought 30 Ford E350 econolines and 20 Chevy C30 cargo vans.
    They were used to deliver inter company light mail to the various Divisions in Southern California. Guess what the drivers who drove these vans 8 hours every day three shifts per day 7 days a week preferred? Yup the Ford Van. WHY ? First of all the body on frame design insulates the body from road noise as the vans are not insulated. Bare steel. The Chevy van was like some noise sound chamber which resonates especialy with rough road surfaces because its unibody. The Chevy van with 454 engine all got rear main oil leaks...the 460..no oil leaks. The drivers area...in the chevy you it has very limited room inside and you feel squished inside while the Ford..lots of space as the engine dog house is almost flush with the dash. You can swing into the cargo area easily without lifting your feet....in the chevy...not so easy. You have to lift your feet around the dog house. By the way I am a Chevy fan but in fleet service these Econolines cannot be beat and i say that through experience.

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      chevies notoriously leak oil. even the newer ones. can't tell you how many trucks I have seen dripping oil from the cover holding the rear main seal.

  • @carlosquintana6930
    @carlosquintana6930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes Chevy was the best for the 60s 70s 80s into mid 90s I’ve been driving vans for a long time and it’s been since 2000 switch to ford I have too much issue Worth my last Chevy I wish Chevrolet will come back I wish😷😷😷

  • @donphillips5957
    @donphillips5957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Amazing. The 2018 curbs at about 6600 pounds, nearly twice as much. But the shorter wheelbase now is longer than the long wheelbase then.

  • @gabrielpichardo1492
    @gabrielpichardo1492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Be it as it may, there are way more old ford econolines on the road than old chevy vans. Im a van guy . I love all the big 3 vans but facts are facts.

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hard to say for sure what was the best. My favorite was dodge

    • @gabrielpichardo1492
      @gabrielpichardo1492 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theemulsionalchemist5688 i love all three , i really cant pick a favorite. I grew up around all three so they all have a special place in my heart

  • @nylonhead
    @nylonhead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just imagine all the people kidnapped in these vans🤔

  • @42luke93
    @42luke93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is the only kind of vehicle made today that is similar to the past. If only there was a sedan out there like that.

    • @42luke93
      @42luke93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Ford Crown Victoria was like that too.

    • @TSL73
      @TSL73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True. The express van is one of the last vehicles still offered with seal beamed headlights.

  • @landyachtfan79
    @landyachtfan79 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Cause like a picture
    She was layin' there.
    Moonlight dancin' off her hair.
    She woke up & took me by the hand.
    She's gonna love me in my Chevy Van
    And that's all right with me."

  • @eutimiochavez415
    @eutimiochavez415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    True my 1973chevy van is still going fine

  • @jesseduke694
    @jesseduke694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why are they comparing a 3/4 ton chassis vs a 1/2 ton chassis?

  • @roddyjarrar728
    @roddyjarrar728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think chevy was savage for stating every inconsistency that ford had with their van lol. That's why they're my go to American car brand

    • @coltheesacker5656
      @coltheesacker5656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hahaha hell yeah..... Ive got 2 mechanic friends, one is a transmission specialist wont even rebuild ford trans/transfer cases because they dont hold up no matter how he builds it. The other is Ford specific diesel Tech and is always swamped with work due to the work load and has made a VERY nice life for himself! Hahaha Chevy Wins!

    • @matthewq4b
      @matthewq4b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@coltheesacker5656 Nice anecdotal story too bad facts say otherwise. GM's warranty costs bankrupted them once and they are on the verge of it once again due to warranty costs...

    • @coltheesacker5656
      @coltheesacker5656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s a cute story also. The 6.0 powerjoke almost did the same for Furd so………..???

    • @matthewq4b
      @matthewq4b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@coltheesacker5656 Might be cute but also the truth. And why the General Motors Corporation no longer exists, replaced by the taxpayer saved out of bankruptcy General Motors Company.
      And the 6.0L had zero impact on Ford, they still turned profits (record ones for that matter ) and were reimbursed for all warranty costs by Navistar and got damages on top of that also. Nice try but you clearly have no clue.

    • @chrishenry3102
      @chrishenry3102 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewq4b Ford owes me about 10k for my 6.0. When I took it to the local dealership they bs'd me told me had no idea what was going on with it, so I left it with them for a couple days to run some "tests" I walk in the back to talk to the tech after I hadn't heard anything in a week, tech says see all these trucks in here, they all have the same problem as yours, every bay was a 6.0, about 15 trucks, the aholes then charged me 2,400 $ and quoted me 15k for an engine that clearly had a design flaw , they could have just told me what it probably was and saved me the 2400$ a holes, it was a great engine with a few little issues that destroyed it. They never fessed up to it and warranty those trucks, cost hard working men many pay checks and drug people over the coals for years milking those engine rebuilds. They should have started recalling them in 03 when they first had problems and redesigned a few things would have been fine, accept they never owned up to it and drained hard working men's pockets. I'm not partial to Ford or Chevy, there designed to break now, they both use to make great vehicles but that 6.0 ordeal was a dam shame.

  • @1sinister80
    @1sinister80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the GM vans where better looking and had better body parts less plastic.

  • @TempoDrift1480
    @TempoDrift1480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These guys are talking about literally an inch difference while wearing garrison caps... I think I'm not interested in that marketing wankery.

    • @swainer8014
      @swainer8014 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is not what she said!

  • @SomeDumUsrName
    @SomeDumUsrName 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I miss my '72 Dodge MaxiVan. Damn that thing was a bus.

  • @ditherdather
    @ditherdather 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It really seems like them vans are hauling ass around them corners. lol

  • @noahmizrahi9834
    @noahmizrahi9834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OK i now like Chevy Van. there is one near da old mill it has no wheels and windows and seats but its a good hide out wen i piss mah dad off

  • @liammccormack3590
    @liammccormack3590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damm Chevy out here giving shit ain't scared of no one

  • @daviatorcustoms3168
    @daviatorcustoms3168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Any possible advantages of the Chevy van are eliminated simply due to their unibody construction. That's the last thing commercial applications needed. With all the miles and hard wear businesses put on their fleets through all kinds of weather, the Chevy vans rusted and rotted out very quickly while Ford's framed econoline vans lasted in many cases for decades. Businesses want to get the most miles and years out of their vans, which wasn't possible in Chevy vans. Also, the engines and drivetrains in the Chevy vans were not up to the towing tasks as much as GM claimed. Premature engine failures among people who towed even lightweight loads with them were very common. The Fords were easier to service too and had longer intervals between necessary routine service than Chevy. Those interior engine covers on the Chevys were always off and the hoods were always up so that something could be adjusted or fixed and it was a knuckle busting job every time.

    • @marko7843
      @marko7843 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I suspect that is also why the Fords were also superior for the mini-motorhomes... as well as that wider hatch accommodating the 460 engine.
      Had a '76 Midas 22-footer and the chassis was better built than any other part of it, plus I could crest Donner Summit still making 50+ mph with a low-comp smog motor.
      Of course, Ford still had to put some of their non Better Ideas in it - I was not happy in the middle of summer finding out on one of those trips that replacing the alternator belt required removing the fan & pulley!

    • @mmiller1188
      @mmiller1188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The dodge vans were also unibody.

  • @SillyPutty3700
    @SillyPutty3700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And yet the Econoline kicked chevy's ass in sales.

  • @mikerussell4417
    @mikerussell4417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a 72 that looks just like that one in the video same color my buddy calls it the puke mobile

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ok, I have to ask why it is called the puke mobile?

    • @bikeaddictbp
      @bikeaddictbp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theemulsionalchemist5688 I'm thinking it's the same colour as puke ... The 70s had some interesting colour choices. At least they HAD colour choices, instead of today's choice of white, black, grey, silver, charcoal, slate, etc.

    • @d.s7741
      @d.s7741 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theemulsionalchemist5688 - you haul all your buddies around after a night of drinking and when you sit in the back and look out the front window you get pretty nauseous, especially when going around a corner, the view from the back of the van through the front window is pretty rough

  • @eaf27
    @eaf27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "easy to park" well yeah when the parking space is the size of Texas it sure is easy to park.

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Back then we could have used backup cameras on those vans.

    • @eaf27
      @eaf27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theemulsionalchemist5688 no doubt, I have parked a few of those in my time, some with a box trailer, and they are no fun to squeeze into smaller spaces.

  • @thejunkman
    @thejunkman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Free Candy

  • @timl7947
    @timl7947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vans but no comparison to the sprinter vans

  • @sutterpark
    @sutterpark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OLD OLD OLD OLD OLD

  • @15DudeAwesome
    @15DudeAwesome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't think they can ever make vans look good again

    • @brandonplaisted8194
      @brandonplaisted8194 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can blame the epa and emissions coalitions formed by international governments.

  • @martycarter3306
    @martycarter3306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is when America 🇺🇸 made vichles right....no chip for the vichles to make it run...and didn't cost no 70 thousand dollars...back then you would pay only 4 thousand dollars.....big damn difference!!!!!... just imagine if you took 70 thousand dollars back in the 70s....how many vichles can you buy????????

    • @Haffmatthew
      @Haffmatthew 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’d be able to buy a smidge over $13k worth. According to the inflation calculations- $70k today in 2021 would have had the value of a bit over $13k in 75’

  • @gophersk
    @gophersk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Used both for work.. Chev was far more functional. Thanks for posting.

  • @alf6259
    @alf6259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you get a video of a 1982 Chevrolet caprice classic station wagon? Nice channel I substituted and thumbs up !!!

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      By 1982 they switched over to VHS tapes and they are actually very hard to find. I am always looking. If I find one I will upload it. Thanks for watching

  • @carguybikeguy
    @carguybikeguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ad & internal sales writers have always used numbers to mislead. They compare the 1/2 ton Ford offering to the 3/4 ton GM offering. Clever.

  • @raywilson9450
    @raywilson9450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have had Fords and Chevys.....but the Ford vans of this era were ugly, in my opinion. Would have bought the Chevy. But in '75 I was driving a '68 Mustang, and loving it.

  • @discozula4469
    @discozula4469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Transit was better all around

  • @razvandobos9759
    @razvandobos9759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish we had the Toyota HiAce in the US.

  • @tymac3306
    @tymac3306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ford Econoline remained mostly unchanged till 2015

  • @jeffcrompton2767
    @jeffcrompton2767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ive seen more chevys than ford when i was growing up. My dad borrowed a chevy van from his workplace to haul logs. It drove like a tank and it was solid. When he took it back i was sad that we didn't keep it . I love it. I don't think a new van can hold up to that king of punishment.

  • @tedl7425
    @tedl7425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I worked a summer on the assembly line, making these vans.
    Worst job ever - soul destroying.

  • @motrhead69
    @motrhead69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How come these don't say free candy or hugs on the side? All the other vans I've been in said candy/ hugs on it?

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a dodge van that came from a church. it said "Jesus loves you" on the side.

  • @fishsayswhatsgoingon
    @fishsayswhatsgoingon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder why they didn't mention the KILLER feature of their vans: they have free candy in them!

  • @jpoplin1
    @jpoplin1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So there saying you just need A half-ton van from Ford to do the work of A 3/4 ton Chevy! 😂

  • @chucklucas8747
    @chucklucas8747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the 76 Chevy short with the V8 an it was a great truck may have the last one they built made into a shag mobile van man I wish I had the days back

  • @calliber1176
    @calliber1176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vans are for creeps you got your truck guys you got your car guys then you got your weird van guys never trust a van guy

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not everyone with a van was a weirdo. I am a mechanic and found a van very practical. You can put just about anything in the back and not have to be worried about it disappearing.

  • @wolferguy
    @wolferguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still drive my 83 ford van since 86. Just saying.

  • @TheBasementChannel
    @TheBasementChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok, I’m sold on the Chevy. Where can I pick one up?

  • @bear_vibes5130
    @bear_vibes5130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Chevy and GMC vans are my favorite.

  • @bobsagot4819
    @bobsagot4819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This feels like a diss track

  • @hairlessmolerat7242
    @hairlessmolerat7242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All these ads depend on which brand makes them, they always find a way to rig it,

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, they were 10-minute commercials. you would not see the ford or dodge films at the chevy dealer

  • @RandyLaheySunnyvale
    @RandyLaheySunnyvale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can see that Chevy rusting while they are filming the commercial.

  • @gradycampbell9933
    @gradycampbell9933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so in other words the outside of the chevy is smaller but the inside is bigger.

  • @cleverkitsune4302
    @cleverkitsune4302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    and yet econolines lasted longer and were proven to still take more of a beating under load

  • @codybevans6340
    @codybevans6340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After watching this, I pity the fool that bought the Ford!

  • @RamiAzzedine
    @RamiAzzedine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Iwoned one chevy Van G30 1995..🚑🚒🚒🚒

  • @turboflush
    @turboflush 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Suprised chevy doesnt make a van to compete with the mercedes or transit

    • @mattdavis9601
      @mattdavis9601 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even their full size Euro vans from Opel/Vauxhall, back before GM sold their European arm to Peugeot, were rebadged Renault Masters. For whatever reason GM has shown zero interest in making that sort of modern van. I've read that the current generation of Express/Savanna is expected to die around 2026ish, so hopefully they'll have something cooked up by then. Maybe they'll bring over some big Chinese van from one of their partners in the country?

  • @JB-sm4zt
    @JB-sm4zt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And in real life none of this shit claimed by chevy mattered by an inch here or an inch there

  • @texanbill6032
    @texanbill6032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ladder frame, and an optional 460 cu in V8?
    I’ll take the Ford! (At 70’s gas prices)

  • @no-damn-alias
    @no-damn-alias 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Back then it was easy to service and hard facts in advertisement.
    Nowadays: look! There's bling! Buy!

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      today the first priority is leather seats, oversized tires, Bluetooth, navigation, and hands-free steering.

    • @johngaltline9933
      @johngaltline9933 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, yes, ease of servicing was something people cared about back in the day, but, I that had a lot more to do with how often you actually had to service them. In a time when all vehicles needed points adjusted, oil topped off, carbs adjusted, and a plethora of other routine maintenance every 10,000 miles or less, you needed to be able to get to things. Today, marketing that it's easy to fix would be brand suicide as customers would wonder why you need to fix it, when every other make on the market will run for a hundred thousand miles with nothing more than regular oil changes.

    • @no-damn-alias
      @no-damn-alias 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johngaltline9933 but today if something goes wrong than you'll have some real trouble and some cars don't make 100k without trouble.

  • @Richard-wk9le
    @Richard-wk9le 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A interesting thing about the Ford Trucks and vans of that era (70,s) was that the engine/ drive train was off set to the passengers side about 2" most people don't notice it but check for yourself.it was done for foot room, also more room for a inside frame rails Gas tank.

    • @theemulsionalchemist5688
      @theemulsionalchemist5688  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the passenger had almost no leg room

    • @JB-hi5cr
      @JB-hi5cr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My 2007 e350 has the motor offset slightly to the passenger side

    • @patrickmcgoldrick8234
      @patrickmcgoldrick8234 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      65 and newer Ford trucks with Twin I Beam front ends were the first ones to set the drive line and engines slightly
      off to the right.

  • @Tractorsandnonsense
    @Tractorsandnonsense 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do cars of this era look so dull and old when they are brand new? I thought I saw a dent in the roof of that gold van!