Cleaning rims with Electrolysis
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.พ. 2021
- The front rims needed cleaned up for the Purple Oliver 1850 project. I use electrolysis to remove rust on most of my restoration projects, so I thought I'd show you how I do it.
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I really like using electrolysis for rust removal, as well.
I used to use sacrificial strips of steel, until I was given a bunch of carbon arc gouging rods. I think they're made from graphite. All the conduction, with none of the mess. Keeps the water fairly clean.
Grandma used to make her own lye by putting wood ashes in a vee trough and running water down thru the ashes and catching the lye. Lye soap was great for washing close and dirty kids. I use an old power chair charger, Arm & Hammer washing soap, a bunch of rebar anodes welded to a rod shaped to my tank, put the parts in and when I think about it a few days later I go pull it out. Wait too long and the water is all gone. My wife used to get carboys of phosphoric acid and I used some of it to de-rust items. Evapo-Rust is what the big boys are all pushing now. Use a rust converter on the bare metal after removing most of the rust. It converts rust into a black oxide that you can paint over. It stops the rust holes in your old car and trucks if you can spray or brush it over all of the rusted part.
Well I thought I knew a little bit but know I feel I know very little. I know what the word electrolysis means but I didn’t know it could be used for rust removal. Thank you Mr. Losey for very educational video.
I've seen this process take a few days before but, just depends on how bad the part is that you're trying to clean. Great video, cheers :)
Good to see more and more on the "Purple" 1850.
Nice work. I belong to a group on FB called Electrolysis Tank Builders. The pros there all use stainless steel for their sacrificial anodes. I like using old brake rotors and I use the Arm and Hammer Super Washing Soda from Walmart.
Really enjoyed that, this is new on me.
Learn something new everyday.....
Nice video as always... 👍👍
Thanks!
Always enjoy learning something. Thanks for video
Wow that lye is impressive, I was surprised how fast that fist wheel cleaned up. I’ve seen this process used with salt as the electrolyte, worked pretty good but probably not as good as the lye.
You have an impressive bag of tricks. I thought, i've seen it all. Nope!
That worked amazing, never thought about that process on rusted tractor wheels. I have spent many days over the last month or so wire rushing layers of rust. Wish I would have seen this before! Thank you for showing, and look fwd to more
I was going to make the power beyond video for you and decided to double check the manual. Surprisingly, it contradicts itself, so now I need to do some double checking before I put my foot in my mouth.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Oh wow, I totally understand sir! Thank you though, for even taking the time to double check before just righting it off!! Can't wait to see more of the purple one going together! And thank you very much for the update sir!
Well done Chris. Thanks for posting. Cheers
Sure makes a big difference bro, cheers for showing. Safe travels
Thank you Chris !! 👍👍 that should work well on Allis gas tank,,,,,,,,
I have cleaned several tanks this way, it works great.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I bought 3 or 4 fuel tanks of internet,, but there almost just as bad as the original tank in my tractor. I'll give it try hopefully it works ? Again thanks Chris,,,,, 👍
That’s awesome thanks
Thanks Chris for sharing that tip. Have some projects for that dip tank coming up very soon!
Chris as a Licensed water operator that works in the state of Florida (i live in Georgia) i can say that the changes in dosage that the hackers made could definitely have caused injuries to those who drank it. Luckily the operator caught the intrusion quickly. Sodium Hydroxide is used to raise the pH of the water and is super alkaline with a pH of somewhere around 12. The hacker raised the dosage about ten times the normal rate. It would have basically turned the potable water into alkaline water which could burn the inside of someone's mouth and esophagus. I have had about ten meetings or calls on this since it occurred.
Yep, I was glad to hear about someone being on top of things, I hope that operator got some serious praise and a raise. I guess my point was that it's not going to cause cancer or some other long term illness if used properly.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Yea i understood your point and didn't want or mean to seem like i was getting on you. It has opened a bunch of eyes across the country to water safety again. In the right quantities it is perfectly safe. We used use it at one of the facilities i manage but stopped about 20 years ago. We pumped about 8,000 gallons a year into our water. 30 Gallons a day. Just don't get it on your skin. I got a couple of scars from it. It just keeps burning till you pour some vinegar on it.
No worries. Hackers are always looking for another way. I remember reading about a Vegas casino got ripped off by hackers through their aquarium. The computer controls for the aquarium were considered a low security risk, so they hacked that, and then from there they were on the network and could do whatever they wanted.
I've been nickel plating small parts in the shop with the same process , only on a smaller scale , it's very satisfying to see the results , thanks for sharing
I've wondered about stepping up to some kind of plating. Is it just a different anode?
@@ThatOliverGuyChris yes, I use a nickel welding rod with a cell phone charger & copper wire for a hanger, works great
Thanks!
Wow! This is really cool, thanks for sharing this Chris. I have heard of this in the past but never seen it in action. I will be trying this in the morning haha..
I started out small just to see if it worked. My big tank is one of those liquid totes with he top cut out.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Literally took the words right out of my mind my friend. I have a ton of those things hanging around that I was thinking about sawing the top off one tomorrow. That is so cool I can’t believe how good that worked. Usually the term electrolysis makes me think of replacing cylinder liners haha
Wait til Ed Gosselin sees this I feel like this would be something that would be right up his alleyIf he’s not doing it already
My first thought was this is something Ed already knew about.
G'day Chris cool video mate
Thanks Murphy!
Kimbo seen it done before thank you.
Thank you
Electrolysis is the only way to go on removing rust and paint. I have a tote that I cut the top off that works great. Much easier than wire wheel, and cheaper by far than sandblasting.
Agreed. My big tank is the same.
Great video, never thought about using a process like that for these old rusty messes I get into. Wonder if it would work on dry fertilizer augers that are tight? Really like your videos helps me when working on our Oliver’s.
I put dry fertilizer augers in for a friend. It cleaned up the outside really well, I don't know if it freed them up. It did show me that deere augers were seveal pieces, because some parts weren't electrically connected due to the rust. First time I pulled it out the center shaft and one of the augers had cleaned up, the rest hadn't chaned at all. I had to run a wire to each section and put it back in to get the rest.
I’m thinking I could use one of those kiddy’s pools to make my tank so I can put fenders and car body parts. My mind is working!!
A friend gave me a 1,000 gallon plastic tank so I could put a small plow in. Never ended up using it, the plastic was too brittle from years in the sun.
Well I’m going to try this and can’t wait.
Electrifying video! (yep - I went there). Did I catch a little Led Zeppelin at the end there? Good shop music! Thanks for the tip! Seems to work great! You ever use evapo-rust? I think they've sent some to some other youtubers before, maybe they'll send you 5 gal or so.
Good ear! I usually turn the music off, I had a video get demonitized for cheesey music that was supposed to be royalty free. I started talking and thought about it, and then decided to let it roll and see what happens.
I'd try some evaporust, but haven't so far. I've got some free samples of Super Clean that I need to try out. It's recommended by Mike Kalsem, so I figured I would give it a shot.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I've got an ear for LZ! I remember other youtubers getting nicked for music that was supposed to be royalty free. They're real sticklers about it on the youtubes. I think you're fine as long as no clip is distinguishable for over 8 or so seconds. But I also think it depends on the artist. Don't let the Beatles anywhere close to a youtube video! They won't demonitize, they'll take the video down!
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I got some Super Clean too. I've used it in the past, but it's been too cold to try out the other stuff I got. I've use Evapo-Rust before and Evapo-Rust worked pretty well. You can reuse Evapo-Rust a few times too. Maybe if I keep writing Evapo-Rust in the comments, Evapo-Rust will pick up on it and send you some Evapo-Rust to try out? Evapo-Rust
@@burningdinosaurs , I wonder if the Beatles would have liked Evaporust! Where I got hit was a 3rd party that makes the claim. They only have to give a small portion to the artist and keep the rest as 'administrative costs' I'd like to see how Evaporust works on them!
My uncle was doing that on some lawn mower parts for a Cub Cadet he went on a trip the next day and passed away on that trip we did not know that he had those parts in the electrolysis process. So it doesn't end up so well if they're in there too long
How long did they end up being in there?
@@ThatOliverGuyChris he was only supposed to be gone 2 days they were in there for about 5 days before I found out
Great video. Does using the lye avoid the black coating on the part that results from using washing soda? Have you had any issues from the vapor from the tank reacting with other items in the workshop? Thanks again.
The only black stuff I have is the converted rust. If I let the converted rust dry and then hit it with my power washer, It comes right off. I haven't noticed any problems with the vapors coming off. I've had a set of fenders in my shop that I stripped 8 years ago, and they only spots that have rusted is where it touched the concrete and where a mouse built a nest.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Thanks very much for the reply.
What is the power supply, voltage and amperage? It makes a huge difference in the speed of removal. I used a 1 amp 12v battery charger, and it took 7 days to remove rust from a garden tractor hood, about the area of a steel wheel.
I use a 12 volt battery charger and add electrolyte until it is showing about 15 amps on the gauge.
Well that's pretty cool, I have heard if cleaning metal this way but never really seen the process. Thanks for sharing. Ok I am wondering to know and maybe others are two, what is under the orange cover in your shop? A secret project maybe lol
My brother's snow bikes. I've started shooting paint on the purple 1850.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Cool...
@@ThatOliverGuyChris are you using Agco paint?
No, I don't like their clover white, and the rest is purple-pink. Matching that has been a challenge, but I think I have something I can work with
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I agree with you on the white I d I not care for it either. The white I used is a little to bright compared to most but it really looks nice. In my opinion anyway. I use Dupont Imron
For those interested powdered citric acid works very well. No electricity, and not dependent on line of sight. Pretty sure that is what evapo rust is minus some potential surfactants. Closer to 80 degrees F the better it works but I've used it in the winter plenty of times. It works awesome on neglected cooling systems. It will make them look brand new.
How is you weather there? Sounds like allot of the USA has been really cold. Take care American friend!
We were cold, not as cold as most of the midwest though. The lake effect really helps buffer the worst of the weather for us. The last few days have been warm and the snow has been melting fast. Birds are singing and the maple sap is flowing!
We had 14 c yesterday. I did some work outside at the house in a T-shirt! Only for a few hours then the jacket was back on.
I'm pretty sure you can't get that stuff as easily anymore because it may be used in the production of meth